07-21-25 FULL SHOW - Obama Started The Russian Collusion Nonsense To Stop Trump

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especially good. Went on some good, great hiking this beautiful weekend.

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It's just so lovely beautiful.

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You know.

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This is a long our, first time in a long
time that everything hasn't been just crunchy and brown at
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really nice.

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Although my allergies are just about to do me in.

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Me too that they are just wearing me out right now.
I hope they are not wearing you out as well.
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allergic thing. Anyway, I got a bunch of stuff on
the blog. We've got a guess coming in. It's going
to be a very good show. Although we'll say this

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as I am a deep minor, and by minor I
mean M I N E er, not m I N
O r A. As I'm a deep miner of the news.
We are officially in what I like to call the
dog days of the news of the summer, where a
lot of people are on vacation and a lot more

(02:19):
people are just kind of mailing it in, So there's news,
but not a lot. We are going to talk about
something that I just heard Jimmy talking about on my
way in, and that is the last Friday.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
News stump. There's no other way to put it.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
You guys, Whenever anybody I don't care if I like
the administration or I don't like the administration wherever, whenever
anybody dumps something on a Friday afternoon, they don't want
you to pay attention to it.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Why is that?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Sometimes it could be something unflattering. Sometimes it could be
something you just hope would go away. So when this
came out on Friday afternoon, I was like, well.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
This sounds bad blood. Why are they.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Releasing it on anyway, let's go to the blog. Find
the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog
dot com, or you could also go to hang on.
Let me make sure I've got to check this link
every day before I use it. It's not that I
don't adore and appreciate the person about Randy Cromwell dot com.
I just want to make sure they're not going to

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redirect you to a porn site. You know mandy'sblog dot com.
Look for the headline that says seven five blog Obama
started the Russian collusion nonsense to stop Trump. Click on
that and here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I didn't in office half American, all with ships and
clipmas a that's going to press plat.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Day and the.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Blood Obama set up Trump from the beginning, scrolling Holy
sleep scores Batman. Oh look, another wiser lawsuit against Trump
Representative Jason Crows as he was kept out of an
ice facility. Genetic test could predict obesity. We've lost an amazing,
fought leader. The AP thinks we should move on from Biden.

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DHS is reviewing the three ounce liquid and carry On's rule.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
We're losing a king. Soupers.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Why Colorado's slowing population growth is a problem. How about
a retirement cruise. Trump has been warned about firing Powell.
Polus's pole is his graceful way off the bridge to nowhere.
Don't get too excited about that Epstein grand jury testimony.
Where bug spray? If there are mosquitoes? I think it's
think it's too early for PSL. Are we finally done

(04:36):
with the net zero folly, the lie about Europeans living
better than we do, about the women's sub four minute
mile trade deficits don't cost American jobs. What has happened
in Denver? Twenty five of the best rooftops and patios
in Denver, Those of the headlines on the blog at
mandy'sblog dot com. And as you can see, it's voluminous today,

(04:58):
voluminous and coming up at one o'clock. So I have
talked about this already. They are about like officially today
a client because when I came back from Japan and
my already bad sleep was just wrecked.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Just destroyed.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
I was sent some sleep jails from Blue SKYCBD and
their CBD and CBN and they have been an absolute
game changer for me in my sleep. But I also
want to know how they work. So today we're going
to talk to doctor Dormanger, he is the doctor working
with Blue Sky CBD about all this stuff works, because

(05:42):
I'm interested, because holy mackerel, you guys, do you track
your sleep?

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Grant?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Do you have a fitness tracker? No, you don't want
to be disappointed. Wait, so you don't have a fitness tracker.
You don't track your sleep nope, I don't have a
fitness tracker, don't track my sleep. I know the result
would not be good.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Well, I know what I'm going to get you when
you turn forty, because that's when you're going to start
being like, yeah, I need to know what's going on.
I've been tracking my sleep for the last ten years
using a fitness tracker. Right, we'll get into this a
little bit later.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I think I would be someone like you. I think
you brought this up briefly with Ryan Edwards last week
about tracking your sleep. I think it would make me anxious,
like it would make me sleep even worse.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Fitness trackers can be your best friend or your worst enemy.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
You have to look at it for what it is.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
It's a tool. It's not your boss. It's not an indictment. Right,
it's not a criticism if you don't meet X amount
of steps. I mean, it's just it is a tool
to have a better idea of how you are doing
with your fitness. That's how I use it. But sleep
scores have been unbelievable. Just it's crazy, it's absolutely crazy.
So we'll talk to him at one o'clock. Now, I

(06:51):
want to go ahead and start with what we talked
about at the beginning, and I want to read to
you what I have on today's blog at mandlog dot com.
I said, this is the bombshell, and I put quotes
around bombshell released by Director of National Intelligence Tulci Gabbard
on Friday. I put bombshell in quotes because if it's

(07:13):
what it looks like, this is bigger than Watergate or
the Iran Contra mess or anything else in the modern era.
And then I linked to a tweet she sent out
that outlines how after the intelligence community decided that there
was no Russian medling of note in our election, President
Obama called a meeting of his top security officials, including
FBI Director James Comy, CIA director John Brennan, and D

(07:36):
and I James Clapper, who gathered at the Obama White
House to discuss Russia. Obama directed the IC to create
a new intelligence assessment that detailed Russian election medling, even
though it would contradict multiple intelligence assessments released over the
previous months. Now, that's a very big deal, and that

(07:57):
is what happened. By the way, so immediately started leaking
to the Washington Post, which we all already knew happened,
and the Post was very willing to pick up the
ball and run with the stories that our brandly, brand
new elected president was a Russian asset and had been compromised.
They loved running with that. But then I have to

(08:18):
ask what happens next, That's all I it's I'm so cynical,
and I don't think unjustly so, because we keep having
stuff dangled in front of us about powerful people being
held to account and then it never happens. And I

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just I just want to see a guy like Clapper
or Brennan, who we know, we know beyond the shadow
of a doubt, that they sat in front of Congress,
took an oath and then lied their butts off. I
just want to see somebody purp walked. Is that too
much to ask? Just so for a second, normal Americans

(09:03):
out here, can you just feel like we have the
same shot at justice as these you know dudes. No,
it's just super frustrating. I am extremely suspicious that they
released this on a Friday afternoon, Extremely suspicious if they're
they're there and there's something new or something compelling, or

(09:25):
there are as was alluded to or said by Tulca
Gabbard that there are more whistleblowers who want to come forward,
and The New York Times does a really great job
of giving you the standard left leaning democratic arm media version.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Of cover for this.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
They essentially say in their article, Yeah, we already covered
all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
There were multiple reports, and.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
We've already moved on, and why are we still talking
about this? That's pretty much what they say. As a
matter of fact, let me read from it. Intelligence agencies
and Senate investigators spent years reviewing the work and concluded
that during the twenty sixteen election, the Russians conducted probing
operations of election systems to see if they could change
vote outcomes. While they extracted voter registration data in Illinois

(10:17):
and Arizona and probed in other states, there was no
evidence that Moscow's hackers attempted to actually change votes. Now,
that's not what Tulca Gabbard is alleging. And if that's
what happened, If we know the Russians probe but they
didn't get anything, they didn't change anything, why in the
world that would have been used to justify what we

(10:40):
already know happened. For the next two years, I mean,
you see there, it's just really hard to understand that
they're answering questions that are not being brought up by Tulci.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Gabbard and for anybody who says, wow, you know.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
There were all these investigations, and there were, but you
have to think about the first Trump administration because he
was in office. Remember how we read all those stories
about people from within the administration leading the resistance. And
we know that the FBI and the CIA at a minimum,
had conversations, if not colluded to push forward the Russian

(11:18):
collusion narrative to steyny President Trump because.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
They knew it was a lie. They knew it when they.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Pushed it the first time that it was a lie.
Why would they have done that?

Speaker 4 (11:31):
So, you know, this is what it is.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
So here we have what should be the biggest story,
and it's dumped on a Friday afternoon at the same
time the president is dealing with an uprising from MAGA
about Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, you can't necessarily say it's
not a look over here, you know, hey, forget about that,
look over here, look over here. That's very much how

(11:57):
it feels. Now if they actually do something that you know,
if I actually see a purplock, if I see someone
go to trial, then I'll believe that any of this
means anything. And by the way, I believe it could
all be true.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
I believe it could absolutely be true that people are
now coming forward that refused to come forward earlier because
they were afraid for their jobs had they come forth earlier.
There's a mood that has shifted, and maybe they've gotten
rid of enough of the Democratic loyalists in some of
these agencies.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I have no idea that, you know what, I don't
trust any of them. That's it, none of them. To
the Texter who hit up the Common Spirit health text
line by texting to five six six nine zero, your
fitness stalker has been watching you sleep for ten years,
fitness tracker. The only fitness stalker that I have, I believe,

(12:59):
is my husband, and he's been stocking me for way
longer than that. Mandy dropping it on a Friday afternoon
made it the lead story on the Sunday talk shows. No, no, no, no,
you don't understand though, you guys, you really don't. Friday
afternoon news, this was not a breaking story, you know what,
I'm saying this wasn't something that something cataclysmic had happened,

(13:21):
and it was breaking news. So that's why we found
all this out. This was a planned release of information,
information that accuses a former president of the United States
of conspiring to create chaos for the next guy. This
is not a Friday afternoon, It's a Monday morning. So

(13:42):
you get the whole news cycle, the whole week, and
then the Sunday shows. I mean, there's strategies to all
of this, and I am not making it up. I'm
not pulling this out of thin air. If you do
this long enough and you have the opportunity to talk
to former press secretaries, they will tell you the truth.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
If they wanted it.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Buried, they released it Friday afternoon, and Friday afternoon on
a holiday weekend even better. So yeah, yeah, Mandy, this
little girl made me feel old without even talking to me.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
She said, Mom, what is that shirt you're wearing.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
That's TLC, a musical group that your grandma used to
listen to when she was young.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah. I might have been. I might have.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
I might have I might have smacked somebody. Mandy, is
there any update to the bridge survey? My guess is
it was voted down soundly, so the governor is unlikely
to release results anytime soon. Oh contray, my friend. I
have a story on the blog today. Eric Saunderman wrote
a great column, and I have to say I agree
with him wholeheartedly. The governor in his final term as governor,

(14:52):
he's been term limited out of course, after spending the
amount of money that he's spent to buy the the
offices that he has bought successfully in Colorado, he really
wants to leave a legacy in a lasting mark, and
I think he's probably been a little shocked at the
visceral reaction that this singing has engendered from all sides

(15:15):
of the aisle. This is one of those times where
I find myself in lock steck agreement with mister Kyle Clark,
and I am grateful that Kyle made such a stink
about it because it made everybody else go, what are
we doing?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
What?

Speaker 3 (15:28):
What?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Bridge?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
What where?

Speaker 5 (15:31):
And inevitably the answer just finds its way to so
all the homeless people can poop under it, which is
sad in and of itself. But yeah, this bridge has
brought people together that would never have been. We're all
standing around singing Kumba yah at opposition to this bridge.
But Eric makes a great point, and in it he says, look,

(15:55):
the governor not used to being told no, but also
not an idiot. This survey, as it were, is just
an opportunity to allow him to gracefully exit the bridge
to nowhere that will never be. So he is going
to get absolutely killed in this survey because no one

(16:17):
wants this bridge. I have yet to see one person
other than the small group of Jared pull Thee supporters
that came up with this cockamamie idea in the first place.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
No one is supporting this bridge.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
So he's gonna get s toll ACKed and then he's
gonna be able to come out and say, aw shucks,
you guys, boy, did I miscalculate? We're gonna do something
totally different but just is awesome to celebrate our anniversary.
But boy, man, did I misread the room or what
it's gonna be? All folks see all shucks. I can't
believe I messed this up. Thanks for straightening me out, Colorado.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Thanks. That's exactly how.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
It's gonna spin, and I'm here for it, you know
what I mean, because if that saves us the eye sore.
That would be that bridge. Let the man save a
little face. I don't care.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
We all suggest dumb things sometimes in our lives. Wait
a minute, I said we all.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
I don't know if I've ever suggested a dumb thing.
I might have suggested things that were not as smart
as others. I don't know if I've ever suggested anything
as dumb as this, brit Well, No, you know what.
I talked about it last week, that time when I
was like ten, and I suggested that we jump off
the roof of an umbrella and see if it works
like a parachute. It does not, So I have suggested

(17:37):
dumb stuff as well. So let's just let's just let
the governor walk like just back into the hedge. No
one needs to know, you know, just like, hey, sorry
about that. Well anyway, Lol. It's obvious when they released
it when they did, didn't get much attention, and at
the same time, it's an effort to get the attention
off Epstein. I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I do not.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Mandy is a conspiracy theory that the fitness tracker on
your wrist creates a signal that disrupts our body. Maybe
not that much different than cell phone frequencies. Just voted
no on the Bridge survey.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
There's a lot in this.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
You've got the fitness tracker creating a signal that disrupts
your body.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
I don't think that.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Let me think of how to say this, and this
is gonna sound cuckoo for cocoa puffs for some of you,
but hear me out. I believe that there are people who,
for whatever reason, are so sensitive to certain things. Sometimes
it's a food, sometimes it's an atmospheric an environmental thing trigger.

(18:42):
Sometimes it is very very very low frequency waves. I
think that there are people who are affected by this
stuff when the rest of us kind of go about
our way, right like I go about my day. I'm
not worried about five G, although I will say five
G sucks to compare to whatever came before it, I think,

(19:03):
but you know, it doesn't bother me. But I don't
ever want to poo poo people who really feel deeply
affected by these things because I don't know. I mean,
I'm allergic to aspering. You guys, grant, are you allergic
to aspirin?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
No?

Speaker 5 (19:16):
See, I shouldn't take it, but you should take it right.
But just because you can take it, doesn't mean I
can take it. So I know it sounds crazy. I
do think probably there are people out there who are
affected by the electro pulses or whatever the connections that
are being made in this watch so it can read
all that information. I am not one of them.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
So there you go, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
So the people of Colorado think that the Jared's Bridge
to Nowhere is dumb, but releasing wolves into Colorado is okay? Andy, Well, Andy, duh.
The bridge is on the front range. The wolves are not,
although they're making their way here. That's gonna be super
fun when somebody in Boulder's dog gets eaten by a wolf.

(20:00):
I don't want it to happen, but rather that I
guess in you know, a kid or something. Anyway, we
are going to take a very quick time out and
be right back. I've got so much stuff on the
blog today it's not even funny. Including let's just get
it out of the way, and let's talk about that
Epstein grand jury situation.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
So we just put that to bed.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
We'll do that next. So thanks to I believe it
was Michael that sent me this terrifying article. Oh excuse me,
see Illinois farm boy. So I was just talking about
my wearable device. Listen to this, Grant, Just just listen
to this. The debate now extends beyond force vaccinations or

(20:46):
invasive searches to include biometric surveillance, wearable tracking, and predictive
health profiling. We're entering a new age of algorithmic athoritarian control,
where our thoughts, moves, and bylogy are monitored and judged
by the state. This is the dark promise behind the
newest campaign by RFK Junior, the Secretary of Health and

(21:10):
Human Services, to push for a future in which all
Americans wear biometric health tracking devices. And I'm not even
gonna read the rest of it. And if you like
your fitness tracker, I would strongly urge you to not
read the rest of it either, because it's terrible. But

(21:32):
I'm actually debating right now whether to take this thing off.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Do you know what it is?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Though?

Speaker 5 (21:36):
I'm a watch killer? You ever know anybody who's a
watch killer? Like the battery on a watch just drains?
Have you ever known I am a am a battery
watch killer.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
I didn't even know that was a thing.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
I cannot be the only thing because I also have
another friend who will kill a battery watch. I don't
know what it's called. Somebody on the text line text
five sixty six. And I know if you know someone
who's a battery killer for watches, because I.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Am one a normal watch.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Battery lasts like a really long time. Mine lasts like
six weeks. It's ridiculous, completely ridiculous. So anyway, yeah, now
I'll take that under consideration. You just scared the crap
out of me with that, though.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Thanks for that.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Anyway, Let's talk about the Jeffrey Epstein situation one more time.
It's still going on. I completely understand the frustration about
this because this is again and I feel like we've
talked about it for forever now and I don't need
to go through the whole thing again. For me, it's
about holding powerful people to account. And there are very

(22:42):
wealthy men who, probably with the help of Jeffrey Epstein
and Gulai Maxwell, abused teenage girls at their will and
are getting away with it. And that is infuriating to me.
But of course it happens all the time, so we're
suppose to just move on. But nonetheless a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Are eyeing the request to unseal the.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Grand jury testimony that they took in New York in
the case that had Jeffrey Epstein waiting for trial, and
some of the prosecutors have come out to say, hey, guys,
there's no there there that you're going to see. And
a grand jury is interesting because the prosecution will only

(23:32):
present as much as they think they need to present
in order to get the indictment. And because there's no
defense issued. There's no defense in a grand jury. It
is just here's our case.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
You know, do we have enough?

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Do you want to file charges against these people? And yeah,
that's a grossover simplification, but really kind of nod. So
the prosecution doesn't want to give up everything it has
until they have to. And if they think they have
a pretty good case with out telling you everything, they're
gonna not tell you everything. So I don't know, you know,

(24:06):
we shall see. Mandy, my dad was a watch killer
and he was the only one I've heard talk about it.
He could kill a watch within weeks. Crazies.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
I knew it wasn't just me, Randy. I'll take what's
behind door number three. You can have the fitness tracker.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I know.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
My sister also kills watches. I'm telling you it's a thing.
Thank you people. I appreciate you. Mandy.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
I'm wondering how their sleep jels may interact with sleep apnea.
Oh no, he was asking me about the Blue SKYCBD people.
So yeah, Mandy, I cannot wear a watch. They do
not keep time. Gave them all the way to friends.
They work fine. Hmmm, see you might be a watch
killer too. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
I just assumed that.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
It was, you know, indicative of my specialness that I
killed a watch. I can't buy magnetic personality drains it
right out. So back to Epstein. Julie Maxwell is serving
a twenty year prison sentence for trafficking young woman to
Jeffrey Epstein, and I'm wondering the longer she sits in

(25:13):
there serving a twenty year prison sentence, if she is
going to start feeling like chatting at any point.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
The boy.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
I don't think I would protect. I'm guessing she's like, well,
I'll probably die, you know if I do that. I
get it, totally get it. But there's not a lot
in these files. And I think people are going to
be disappointed again. The hope is this kind of little
are they?

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Are they not?

Speaker 5 (25:40):
We'll find out what a judge is going to say
if he's going to release the grand jury testimony, which
they normally don't do because there's no defense presented. So
you know, it gives the impression of guilt. That's what
it's designed to do. That's where the old saying you
can indict a ham sandwich is based in reality, not
that someone has tried and died ham sandwich. But you

(26:01):
go in there with enough quote evidence that is unchallenged,
you can pretty much get an indictment from anybody.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
So I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
I'm just getting kind of like, uh, Mandy, I hope
the Epstein business was a honey trap. Well, there are
rumors in speculation that he was part of the intelligence community,
and it's widely speculated that he would lure these men
in with these young women, film them in certain situations
with young women, and then lured that over their heads

(26:31):
for you know, whatever purpose, which does kind of not
sound crazy when you consider the fact that we know
that hundreds of hours worth of video were taken from
Jeffrey Epstein's houses and yet none of them, no one
seems to know where any of them are. I mean,

(26:52):
you guys, come on, do we just move the blackmailer
from one to another?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
It all just.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Stinks to high heaven. That's the thing.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Sometimes, you know, it's Okham's razor. The most obvious answer
is the answer. And yet when you have all of
these people, some people who could not possibly have any
certainty about such things, and they are positive, and they
are certain that it's this thing or it's that thing,
and we're just supposed to sit here and ignore everything
that we've seen right in front of our own faces.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
The Internet's been kind of a game changer.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
It's like nothing goes away, right, nothing, It's always there
for eternity. And Mandy would Maxwell have Brown's to see
the butts off of for what she was convicted. I mean,
I don't know what she would sue for Mandy. Both
my father and I kill watch batteries within days. See,
I'm so happy about this, you guys.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
I turn off street lights at night when I'm walking
by them. Grant, I believe we have a wizard listening
to the show today, because I know I saw that
Harry Potter. I just took the light away. That would
be a very cool skill to have.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Not a watch killer, but occasionally when I walk past
the street light they turn off. I actually think you
guys are some kind of demon. Just gonna say it.
I know other people won't say it. Well, I'm just kidding.
I don't think you're a demon, Mandy. My friend's husband
is a jeweler and recommends pulling the stem out of
your watch anytime you aren't wearing it, and it masks.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
It lasts much.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Longer just because it stops the My problem is, though,
then I have to reset my watch every morning, and
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
I'm lazy.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Oh no, Mandy, is the surgery on your vocal cords again?

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Gosh? I hope not.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
No, it is not.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
I talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I
at the ripe old age of fifty six. I am
going to be having a hysterectomy and that will happen
in August first, and I have some testing stuff that
has to be done this Thursday. I'm being very transparent
as I hate it when you know someone that is
I know about in the news or something and they

(29:05):
just disappear or whatever. I'm not going to disappear. I'm
not going to be gone for as long. I don't
know how long I'm gone, maybe a few days, but
not nearly as long.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
My vocal cords sound terrible right now because of allergies.
Allergies are killing me right now. So please Mandy asked
Tom Martine about the watch thing. I'm pretty sure it
happens to him. Okay, you guys are making me feel
much better. All right, So I'm a watch hiller.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
But I'm not alone, not even a little bit.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
When we get back, I have, uh I want to
talk just for a second about something. It's incredibly serious,
but I have a weird question about and I'm hoping
somebody in our listening audience knows more about it than
I do.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Listen to this.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Grant just got a text message from someone said, do
you have a macrotosis? A macrotosis is when your body
absorbs too much iron, And I indeed do have macrotosis,
a machromatosis. Machromatosis, yes, and your body has too much hemocrite.
And so I was like, what's it causes you to

(30:12):
store too much iron in your blood. And when I
found out I had it when I was in my
early twenties, my doctor said to me, I'm surprised magnets
don't stick to you because my iron in my ferretine
was so high. So I had to start donating blood
once a month. And that's basically how they treat it.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
You just go donate blood once a month and you
get rid of it.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
And that's really funny. But then I was like, okay,
but what about this and watches, So listen to this.
A machromo hemochromatosis iron overload can have various effects which
may be relevant, and it doesn't have the myths and
realities it says. The misperception is that people with this

(30:55):
condition can somehow stop a watch, but that's just a misconception.
But then why did this person ask me this? And
they may be a watch killer too.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
It's not weird. It's all coming together.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I'm telling you all just right there, bam. Anyway, Oh no,
Theo from The Cosby Show and one of my favorite
characters on The Resident passed away.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
They oh.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
That wasn't Malcolm Theo Cosby Gotta No, oh no, Malcolm
Jamal Warner died.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
No way. Oh he's younger than I am. Wow, this
one hurts. This one hurts bad. Dang. Oh he drowned
trip wow. Oh that's awful.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
He was in Costa Rica on a family vacation and
drowned while swimming. He was near Cochles, a beach in
Lehman Lemon, Costa Rica that's on the Caribbean side. They
claimed he was caught by high current in the water.
Was found Sunday afternoon. Ugh the oh oh that's so sad.
God he was only fifty four. Yeah, anyway, that's awful, Mandy.

(32:15):
People have different individual chemical makeups. Some people have skin
oils that are pH corrosive to watches and batteries. Also,
some people have different electrical fields skin conductivity that can
be harmful to battery powered watches. Mechanical watches are not
immune to these factors, but are usually a better choice
for these people that kill battery powered watches. Same thing
is true for some gun owners. Their skin oils can

(32:37):
be corrosive to metal gun finishes. My problem, you know,
the only issue I'm having with this is that I
can wear a Garmin fitness tracker or a fit I
had a fitbit for years and that battery doesn't run
down excessively fast. I mean, that's just weird. I'm sorry,
I wasn't gonna talk about this, So I am going
to talk about this before we go to break though.

(33:00):
A CBS four has a story of a man fighting
for his life in a hospital after getting bitten by
a mosquito that carried West Nile virus. West no virus
here has put two people that I know personally and
almost taking them off this planet. This is the kind

(33:20):
of illness that takes years to recover from, and apparently
there have been a couple cases in Adams County. So
if you're going to be outside where there are bugs,
where's some you know, bug repellent. You don't have to
smell like off. There are a lot of natural bug
repellents that work pretty well. But don't risk it because

(33:40):
west no virus in most people, you feel bad for
a few days. Been in about twenty percent of people. Apparently,
it will absolutely flatten you and can put you in
the hospital and kill you. And the question that I
have is this one, and I'm hoping someone who knows
something about West nyle virus can answer this question. Growing
up in Florida, Mosquitoes are a ubiquitous part of your day,

(34:03):
right every day.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I have probably been bitten by a.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
Mosquito thousands of times in my wife growing up in Florida.
I've never heard of one case of someone ending up
in the hospital because of West mal virus.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
How is that possible? Same thing in Ohio?

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah, I mean what what is How is that possible
that we have so many mosquitos? But this is not
really an occurrence. If you know the answer, let us know.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (34:34):
No, it's Mandy Connell and Tonoka.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Ninem god Way, the Nicety three and Donald Keith sad
bab Welcome Local, Welcome to the second hour of the show.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
And as I said at the beginning of.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
The show, you guys have to understand that sometimes I
utilize my program simply to satisfy my own curiosity. And
today is one of those days because after being an
horrible sleeper for my entire life, I was first diagnosed
with quanic insomnia when I was nineteen, when I signed
it for a sleep study.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Because it paid fifteen hundred bucks.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
At Florida State University, thank you very much, And they said, oh,
you have a sleep disorder. That was the first time,
and I thought they were going to fix it, but
they were like, oh no, no, that's not what we're
doing here. We're just going to tell you have it.
In my lifetime, I've tried every single sleep thing you
can imagine. I mean every one of them, including prescription,

(35:41):
non prescription meditation, everything that could possibly be done. I
have tried every single thing out there, and they either
lead me the next day literally unable to function that
is where I am for most of prescription medications, or
with a just a crippling headache the next day. They
all have some negative that if they help me sleep,

(36:04):
they leave me feeling terrible the next day. So obviously
that's not gonna work. And when I got back from
Japan and my horrible sleep was wrecked even further by
a fourteen hour time change, I was struggling badly and
Greg from Blue SKYCBD was like, you've got to try
our sleep jells. And at that point, if he had
said lay down in dog poop and it will help
you sleep, I would have laid down in dog poop.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I would have just been like, whatever, it's fine, just
do it, and.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
He got me some of their sleep jails. And you, guys,
I have not ever slept this well, this long, this
many days in a row continuously, just incredible. The numbers
that I'm getting on my sleep scores on my watch
I've never gotten in my entire life, let alone night
after night after night after night. So now that I'm
taking these things, I am retroactively asking both doctor Eric

(36:56):
Dorninger got it, thank you, and Greg Carpenter form blues
SKYCBD to come in to talk about this stuff because
for me, this is a miracle, but I want to
know what I'm doing in my brain.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
So guys, welcome to the show. First of all, thanks
for having us very great story.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
Nothing is more important than a good night's sleep.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
I got to tell you, I you know, I'm at
the point of my life and I'm I think I'm
probably when I say this, there's going to be a
lot of people in this listening audience that are going
to be able to relate. I know how many nights
I cannot sleep and still function at a pretty high level,
Like I know that number. I know how many days
I can go sleeping like two hours a night and
not you know, have a nervous breakdown. And that's not

(37:36):
a normal thing for people to know. So this for
me has just been so incredibly good, and I need
to know how it works because this textor said that's
because it has THHC in it. It does not have
THHC in it. I have tried THHC for sleep and
it does not work for me.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
So what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
What is this?

Speaker 5 (37:57):
I'm going to start with you, doctor Dorninger, and let
you talk about it, and then we'll come to you Greg,
because I want to hear how you got into this
whole business in the first place.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
Yeah, well, with that will make two big points.

Speaker 9 (38:05):
The first is that THCHC but not CBD, actually disrupt
sleep architecture. So what that means is THD can help
you fall asleep, but it actually wrecks your restorative sleep.
Just like a glass of wine. And I think everyone's
had this experience where they have a glass of wine.
It enhances GABBA in their brain, the cool calm collective chemical.
They decompress, they drift off into sleep easier, but being

(38:29):
then they wake up.

Speaker 8 (38:30):
THHD has a similar.

Speaker 9 (38:31):
Phenomenon where it will help you fall asleep, but not
stay asleep, and not get you into deep restorative sleep
where you go through multiple rem cycles get that restorative orjuiter.

Speaker 8 (38:41):
Of the anti aging beauty sleep.

Speaker 9 (38:44):
So how most of these molecules work with your experience
is ultimately as anti inflammatories. And when I worked at
the retirement community for ten years, the favorite sleep drug
of all the senior seniors, the eighty six year olds,
ninety two year olds was ADVILPS or talon l PM, right,
And those are anti inflammatories that absolutely help with sleep,

(39:05):
while they destroy your liver, kidd, Yeah, come on, who.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Needs a liver after a certain point. Well, I'm allergic
to ends there.

Speaker 9 (39:16):
I'm not into advil or anti tail and all. You
just can't use them on a chronic level. Whereas CBDCBN,
which is our sleep gel formula, our anti inflammatory restorative
sleep cycle restoring. They put you back into mother nature
circadian rhythms to wake rested.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
How does that work?

Speaker 4 (39:35):
What are we talking?

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Because I spent an inordinate time learning what ambien does
your brain. It's fascinating, all right, But ambian will also
make you a horrible person if you take it long
enough and that's personal experience. So how does this work
on your brain? And why does what is CBN versus CBD?
Why does that matter that they're both in there? You
know what's happening.

Speaker 9 (39:57):
Yeah, so real quick, on ambien, that is a hypnot yep,
so you don't go into restorative sleep.

Speaker 8 (40:02):
You just get basically hypnotized.

Speaker 9 (40:04):
You get a coma into an eight hour something, but
it's not restorative sleep whatever that is, it's not restorative sleep.
The CBD is an anti inflammatory, uplifting productivity molecule. So
CBD actually enhances GABA A for feeling cool, calm collected
five ht one, which is a serotonin pathway for feeling enthusiastic,

(40:25):
and dope meine for ambition and dry feelings of self worth.
And you need a little bit of that anti inflammatory
for the CBD to help dampen all the inflammation you've
built up in your body that day, because inflammation messes
with melatonin release and sleep cycling. So you need a
little bit of that CBD in there. If you put
too much CBD in there, like I take seventy five

(40:47):
milligrams of Blue Sky Original in the morning as an
uplifting productivity molecule to give me enthusiastic about patient care.
But if you put too much in that, you could
really feel a little too jazz at bed time. So
we have a little bit of to bring down the
inflammatory levels in your body and let that melatonin come
out and start talking. Help that cortisol drop down. You

(41:09):
want cortisol spike in the morning, but drop in the evening.
You want melatonin to spike in the evening but drop
in the morning. The CBN actually helps with the actual
circadian rhythm, so that literally kicks your pineal gland and
your hypotami's pituitary adournal access to get back.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
I mean, of course, as it should, you know, all
that gland stuff. That's of course, that's how it worked.

Speaker 8 (41:31):
Really in plain English. It puts you back into farmers hours.

Speaker 9 (41:33):
Wake up with the sun, go to bed with the sun,
and release restorative growth hormones melatonin, and get cycling with
mother nature again so that you can awake refreshed and
ready to go.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
I've been doing all kinds of I've been testing my sleep.
I have new like little experiments to see, you know,
whether or not. And even when I did not take
it last night, because I have to have some surgery
on August first, and you can't do anything, you know,
a week before. They want you off pretty much everything.
And I was like, well, how is this going to
be if I don't take it for a week? And

(42:05):
even last night I didn't take it and I slept
better than I have in like five years.

Speaker 9 (42:08):
So it's a reset molecule. And some of our customers
needed on the daily. They take it every night. Other
people take it where they have big day tomorrow, they're overwhelmed,
they're having a hard time settling down.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
And they take it three four times a week.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Right, Greg, I want to ask you, how did you
end up in the CBD business?

Speaker 7 (42:27):
Well, I want to take a quick step back just
to piggyback a little bit on what Jorner was saying,
because the CBN molecule was not in our formulas when
we originally started the company. And I think what a
lot of people don't understand is how much inflammation in
general plays into the inability to get really great sleep. Right.

(42:50):
And the reason why I say that is when we
first started the company, going on seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
We were only using we only.

Speaker 7 (42:58):
Had CBD, we didn't have the CBG that we have
in our max Relief FALLM. We didn't have the CBN
in our sleep formula, but we still got consistent feedback
from our I mean not only our customers, but our
friends and family coming in and saying, am I getting
better sleep? Because my dreams are really vivid. The point

(43:19):
to that is as we help the body and the
brain regulate and control inflammation, that just automatically allows the
body to get into a deeper, more restorative sleep. And
your story, if you're reading the reviews on the website,
are not abnormal, right, Like, we can't make claims that

(43:41):
this is going to do XYZ for you, but your
sleep numbers. You'll see a number of other stories online
of people just like you that see their sleep scores
go from forty to ninety. That's like an extra hour
in deep sleep and rem sleep jumping pretty dramatically.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
I mean, for me, it's the simple thing of waking
up at three o'clock in the morning, realizing at three
o'clock in the morning, and being able to go back
to sleep until the alarm goes off.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
For people, I mean, for I don't know how many years,
the last twenty five years, if I wake up three o'clock.
I'm getting up because I'm awake, like I could stand
up and do my radio show at three o'clock in
the morning. That's how awake I am.

Speaker 9 (44:22):
And that usually means you had a three am cortisol spike.
And what you're what's happening there is you're modulating that.
So cortisol's supposed to spike at seven am like a
rooster and wake you up. You're going at three am
when you damp in inflammation, you damp in cortisol spikes,
and then you're gonna be able to roll back over
and get more restorative sleep here.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
That for me, has been the most amazing thing. I
don't know in my adult life that I've ever been able.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
To do that.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
And that sounds so crazy to say it. No, is
that was normal for so long that it doesn't It
didn't even phaze me anywhere. I mean, when you don't
sleep while, you learn to adapt, right, you just learn
to roll up to punch it to a point.

Speaker 9 (45:01):
Yeah, but that is a torture method is literally sleep
depriving people until they have psychotic break. So if I
could give one thing to our world to bring more
peaceful interactions, it's a good night's sleep right to everybody.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
If you have a question.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
I got a lot of questions on our text line
for Greg and doctor Dorninger from Blue Sky CBD, and
I want to start with this one. And it was
down here. We actually I actually already responded to the
guy off the air, but I want to ask this
question on the air because I think it's important. A
lot a lot of questions about THHC. And we got
one saying, look, I'm in the Air Force reserves and

(45:36):
they tell us not to use CBD products because we
could test positive for THHC. First of all, let's talk
about is there any THHC in these products?

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Greg?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
And all of our products, every formula is final batch
tested by a local lab here sc Labs.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
All of the.

Speaker 7 (45:58):
All of those diagnosedstics are readily available to every consumer
on our website, listed under every product. And it is
imperative to note that what we're not anti THCHC, where
we just don't believe that these products need THHC in
them to bring the relief, the anti inflammatory, the pain reduction,

(46:21):
the better night's sleep in them.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Okay, And this texture said, can you get these outside
of Colorado, What are the laws to mail order them?

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Say?

Speaker 7 (46:31):
In Wyoming, they can go to our website. It's Blue
Sky DASHCBD dot com. They can order. I believe you
have a promo code, yes, Mandy, M A and D Y,
and that is thirty percent off, not just on your
first order. You can use the promo code Mandy as
many times as you'd like for the life however long

(46:52):
you choose to use our products. You will see in there.
I mean, we ship across the country on a daily basis,
and they can order, and they can choose postal service
or UPS or however they prefer to have it delivered.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Are you guys in any local retail locations or is
it all mail order? A couple of people asking that.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
Question, good so, good question.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
Our distribution network or our retail outlets are listed on
the website. They're not your We're not in and we
will likely never be in your seven to eleven or
your King Soopers. We work with healthcare providers, so we're
available at your Twin Rivers locations, at your proactive physical therapies.

(47:38):
Out of a number of naturopathic doctors across Denver, so
it most most of the time it's easiest and most
convenient to order online and have it shipped to your door.
But if you are in an area where you would
rather go and pick it up on the day, you
can go to the website and look at the locations

(47:59):
where it's available.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
And so, okay, a couple things. One said, I truck
driver cannot use CBD because it has been tested by
large companies and have found THHC in CBD. There's a
case for the Supreme Court overseeing us do this issue.
How would you respond to that, Doctor Dorninger.

Speaker 9 (48:18):
Yeah, this is I'd like to circle back around and
talk about how I became part of the company. Was
one of our original founding members was working for a
cardiac lab company, and he would come into my office
and I would just grind him to a pulp on
the embellishment of the data he was showing me, and
I would critically read through that. And they were looking

(48:40):
for someone to do research and development for CBD, and
Patrick said, hey, we should get doctor de onboard. So
we all went out to dinner and my big three
where I wanted purity impotency. Purity impotency means what's in
a natural product is what's in there. And then potency
means you are ten percent above or below. So a

(49:02):
thirty milligram original sky jail should be thirty three to
twenty seven milligrams. It could be ten percent below ten
percent bove we hit that I.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
Needed zero TC. And the reason I wanted zero.

Speaker 9 (49:16):
THD is because nobody needs enthusiasm, feeling cool, calm, collected
and dialed, ambition and dry feelings of self worse than
a paramedic, a police officer, a military member, and these
people don't get to smoke a joint after work right
and to bring to come down from a crazy day.
So I needed that zero TC. And then finally we

(49:38):
needed the best price per milligram. I will tell you
we already have the best price per milligram on any
CBDCBN or CBG isolate. If you add that Mandy thirty
percent off, it's crazy savings on that. But you will
not pop positive for THHC isolate. Unfortunately, a lot of
the drug companies when they test, they just do a

(49:58):
phyto canbinoid tests, So if you're on CBG, CBN, CBD, THC,
they have a generic test for all them. So you
have to make sure your company is testing for PhD
specific Okay, I.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Got a couple of fast questions. Do you recommend your
sleep products for night shift workers? We actually talked about
how they help reset your circadian rhythm, and I've been
a midnight to six radio person and that just jacks
you up. So would this be helpful for someone if
you're working that opposite schedule.

Speaker 9 (50:30):
In particular if you are a true night shift worker.
So the literature shows living with Mother Nature is the
best in regards to cancer prevention. If you're just a
graveyard shift worker, that's second best. A little bit of
higher dates of cancer. So people who are switching back
and forth from day shifts, night shifts and everything in between.
So just make your imitation cycle and use the sleep

(50:55):
jels recording.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
So if you have that steady schedule, maybe not as
much if you're back and forth, that's right, which I
think back and forth schedule is just if.

Speaker 9 (51:02):
You're back and forth, I would recommend the CBD original
because you're full of inflammation, right, And I would take
the CBD original upon waking, just pure CBD isolate with
MCT oil and take seventy five two hundred and fifty milligrams.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
If I can note one quick thing, and I know
we're probably short on time, the question about THHC testing
is super relevant and very obviously is foundational for us
as a company. The other, the other thing that comes
up relatively often is that there is the misnomer that
these products actually need THHC in them to work, which
is really fake news, false information. And so if people,

(51:43):
if if our listeners or your listeners are under that impression,
what I would recommend is spend some time with the website,
read some of the published research.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
All of thee where's the information there?

Speaker 7 (51:55):
And then you know, if you're living in this world
where you believe products need to provide anti inflammatory and
pain relief and better and night's sleep, I would just
suggest to read our reviews.

Speaker 8 (52:06):
They're all verified reviews.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
It's very clear that these are our customers going out
of their way to share their experience. And I feel
like even more than what doctor D and I can
say that those experiences in that real world testimonial is
of more value than anything that we could say.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
This person said, what prescription drugs react with sleep gels?
And I think that's a valid question. You know, we
do have a lot of older people who may be
on a lot of prescription meds. Do we have a
good idea of what could contraindicate?

Speaker 9 (52:35):
Yeah, no concern with militonin. I'll take ten twenty milligrams
melatonin with sleep gel and have no issues. Three milligrams
is what the average person takes. But as we age,
you actually radically diminish your melatonin output, so there's no concern.
Melatonin doesn't work at the sky gel. If the excuse me,
the sleep jel. If the sleep Jeal's working better, try

(52:56):
and drop the melatonin. But if you notice the combo
works better for you, that's great.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Prescription drugs yeah, overall, So is there any issue with
prescription drugs?

Speaker 8 (53:05):
Prescription there's not any issue.

Speaker 9 (53:07):
It's more that the otcs and the prescriptions are showing
concerning mild cogni impairment and dementia. So if you're on
a benzo, I'll actually use like xanax to sleep, I'll
actually use the sleep jobs with the prescriber to help
get them ramped off of benzo gracefully. A lot of

(53:27):
people are using Benadryline over the counter that was just
shown on the Aging Brain List to not be good.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
It is amazing to me. I sold insurance to elderly
people for a while and I'd see their drug list
and it was amazing to me that I'd meet these
little littleld ladies who are on like forty milligrams of xanax.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
Yeah, like what Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
Would take it out down and these little ladies are like, oh,
that's my nerve pill.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Like I bet it is.

Speaker 9 (53:48):
And a lot of people are actually embarrassed or ashamed
of that because everyone knows as bad, so they won't
even report in their new patient paperwork. Now with EMR,
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Thanks for having us, all right, guys, we will be
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Speaker 5 (55:25):
Another lawsuit against Donald Trump that Attorney General Phil Wiser
has just jumped into. He never met an anti Trump
lawsuit he did not love, and let's be real, Phil
Wiser is in a bit of a pickle, right now,
he's our current Attorney General, which we all know is
stands for aspiring governor AG. Only there's a fly in

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the ointman and that fly's name is Senator Michael Bennett,
who had the nerve to swoop in from.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
The US Senate and announce his candidacy.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
For the governor's man. Right, although can we even say
that anymore? Because I mean, do the governors even live
there anymore? Jared Polis has never left his place in Boulder,
So yeah, I don't know. I mean I would grant,
would you if you became governor? Would you live in
the governor's mansion? I think I would and a heartbeat
just because I mean, how often do people get to say, well,

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when I was living in the governor's mansion, Yeah, and
it's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
It's like the biggest piece of property in cap Hill.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
I mean, but then you have to live among the
homeless people. So maybe that's I'm sure that's why maybe
I don't know. This lawsuit, by the way, in case
you we're wondering, is about the cuts to Medicaid, which
is this is rich, This is super rich. This from
public Radio before the Wheels completely fly off, and we

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can't get any news from them at all.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Colorado.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
On Thursday, you orined a coalition of twenty one states.
I bet you every single one of them is a
Democrat run state. Just throwing that out there, twenty one
states and challenging new rule from the US Department of
Health and Human Services and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
The suit argues the rule would create significant barriers to
purchasing health coverage under the Affordable Care Act, also called Obamacare,

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by making a variety of changes, including adding new, burdensome
and costly paperwork and verification requirements, and shortening the open
enrollment period. It would also cause nearly two million people
nationally to lose their health insurance. The final rule makes
numerous changes to provisions impacting federal and state health insurance marketplaces, premiums, copays,

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and deductibles. It also excludes coverage for gender affirming care
as an essential health benefit under the Affordable Care Act.
The AG's office says that leaves states like Colorado responsible
for paying for the portion of insurance premiums attributable to
such coverage. So I'm not sure what they're I mean

(58:00):
what they Oh, they're just challenging the new rule. Oh okay, okay,
when all this is said and done, when we get
out of the Trump administration, I'm going to go back
and I'm going to add up every single lawsuit that
we had quotes signed onto here in Colorado against the
Trump administration, because from where I'm sitting, we're on the

(58:21):
losing side of them most of the time so far.
So we'll see what happens. But ultimately, this has nothing
to do with Medicaid because the cuts to Medicaid don't
go into effect until twenty twenty eight with any real ferocity.
And ultimately, if Colorado simply made the decision not to
cover illegal immigrants with state dollars, this would solve a

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lot of issues and we could cover the people who
really need to be covered on Medicaid. So the reason
he's doing this has nothing to do with any of that.
It just has to do with the fact that Senator
Michael Bennett is just hoovering up all of the money,
I mean hoovering up all of the money going into
the Democrats race, the Democratic primary for governor, because I mean, honestly,

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you guys, as much as I would love to see
Kirkmeyer run because I think she would be dynamite. I
don't know if a Republican can get elected in Colorado.
I'd like to think the right Republican could, And if
there ever was one, it's Barb Kirkmeyer. She's so smart
about explaining how the state works, where it's not working,

(59:28):
how to fix it, big ideas, those kinds of things,
and I just think she would be a dynamite candidate.
But let's just say that things remain as they are
and a dynamite candidate decides not to run, then what happens.
It gets really really hard for a Republican to win
this state. I mean really really really hard. So you

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got Phil Wiser. He's using his space as Attorney General,
doing all of these things to prove that he's the
guy to fight Trump. Because in the Democratic primary, and
this is happening all over the country, Democrats who are
running for open seats as this one is, are trying
to position themselves as the Trump slayer. I'm the person

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who's gonna fight Donald Trump. I'm gonna take him down.
Except that's not what we're doing in the governor's mansion.
What we're doing is trying to run the state of Colorado.
On the very bottom of the blog today, I have
a long video, and I'm gonna be honest, I've only
watched about half of it. It is the history of

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Denver's collapse. Now you might think to yourself, that's a
little dramatic, but then you start watching this and you're like,
oh my gosh, Edver has kind of gone in a
bad way. I heard the mayor on either Colorado's Morning
News or Ross I can't remember. I certainly not this show,
but I heard the mayor talking about the fact that

(01:00:55):
interest in leasing office space downtown is picked up dramatically
in downtown Denver. I hope that's true. I really hope
it's true. But it's interesting when you have people running
around to be the Trumps player and blatantly ignoring the
biggest issues in this state, which is I'm sorry, you guys,
we need to talk about transportation all the time, and

(01:01:18):
the fact that everything that the voters have voted to
tax themselves on under the guys that we're going to
fix the roads already, is all of that money has
just been redirected by Jared Polus and his head of
Sea dot. If I were running for governor, I would
start with, Hey, you know what, the first thing I'm

(01:01:39):
going to do is appoint someone to the Department of
Transportation that wants the roads to be good. We're going
to start with that. That's the first thing I'm going
to do. I will appoint no other position before I
appoint someone to that job that wants good roads in
Colorado first and foremost. That's my number one campaign plank.

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I think it would resonate with people because a lot
of people who are stuck in I twenty five and
now it used to be you were stuck in I
twenty five between four and six. Right now it's like
three point thirty on and if you can get off
I twenty five by six, you're doing great. And here
we are talking about more mass transit than no one's
going to ride after a pandemic, which clearly proved how

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easy it was for people to give up riding mass
transit because they've never come back. In any case, good luck,
I mean, Phil's gonna need it. I happen to think
that Senator Michael Bennett has a pretty straight line into
the nomination. We'll find out if I'm right or not
after everyone votes. But Phil's just gonna keep trying to

(01:02:45):
prove he's the guy that is going to battle against
that evil, evil Trump, evil evil Trump. Yep, evil evil.
I don't know if it's going to be effective, but
I think that's all he has going for him right now.
So we're gonna expect more lawsuits. Yay, yay, more lawsuits. Woo,
a lot of lawsuits.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Sue everybody. Isn't that what they say these days?

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
When we get back, I want to talk for just
a moment about the death of a guy I bet
most of you probably have never heard of, but I
had the great privilege of meeting one time, much to
his chagrin. I'll share the story after this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
If I cannot get a breast augmentation surgery covered by
the government, why should the government pay for breast removal?
What what are you talking about? If you're a man
and you want boobs, the government will pay for it
now in Colorado, that's a thing now. But if you're
a woman and you want boobs, no boobs for you,
at least not that insurance will pay for even if

(01:03:47):
it makes you feel more womanly. Just thought about that anyway,
This is really a moment right now today where the
conservative movement has lost a giant in the movement. And
his name is Ed Fulmer and Ed was the founder

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of the Heritage Foundation, and he passed away yesterday at
the age of eighty three. And I have been associated
with know about. I've done events with the Heritage Foundation
a lot since two thousand and five, less lately, and
we'll get to that in a moment. But when I

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first started working with the Heritage Foundation in earnest I
was in Southwest Florida, and they were trying to do
this thing called the Heritage Neighborhood Groups, and they wanted
to start kind of, you know, individual clubs if you would,
in certain parts of the country or where there was
enough interest and you had enough people that would support
such a thing. And I was sort of part of

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that movement trying to get it started in Southwest Florida.
And as such, I got to go to a luncheon
I was invited by the Heritage Foundation of flight at Washington, DC,
and I got to go to this luncheon and I
found myself seated next to then President of the Heritage Foundation,
Ed Folner. Now the Heritage Foundation has been in the
news lately, and it's not I don't think it's been good,

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but it's given the impression that somehow the Heritage Foundation
is this big, evil political conglomerate, you know, that's trying
to run things from behind the scenes. That's not what
the Heritage Foundation was. For many, many years under Ed's leadership,
it was a place of deep, deep scholarship, of deep
yearning for understanding, of defending and explaining why conservative values

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were the right values and the right choices for the
continued progress of the nation. It was a very heady place,
and they would put up these white papers and they
were fascinating. I thought they were fascinating anyway, but they
were written in such a way that did not necessarily
make them accessible to most people. And I'm being kind

(01:06:00):
when I say that they often went well over the
heads of people in the media that I knew, and
I'll just leave it at that. So I find myself
sitting next to Ed Fulner at this Heritage Foundation luncheon,
and he was very kind, and he said nice things
about the stuff we were trying to do in Southwest Florida,
so he knew who I was. And then he asked
the question, and he said, Mandy, what could we be

(01:06:23):
doing better in terms of outreach that we're not doing?
And I looked at him and I said, mister Fulner,
because I called him mister Fulner, Mister Fulner, is this
one of those times where you just want platitudes or
do you want me to really tell you the truth?
And he said, I absolutely want you to tell me
the truth. And I proceeded to tell him that the
stuff that they were putting out was written at such

(01:06:44):
a high level that most people in the media probably
threw it away, and if they really wanted to make
an impact, they had to dumb it down. They had
to give it an in, you know, little mini indigestion
or digestible bites that people could easily understand. And they
had to teach their experts, who I interviewed a lot
of on the show at the time. They had to
teach their experts how to be able to convey these
very high level things at a very simple level, like

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talking to fifth graders. And to his credit, he not
only listened, he took notes. Was the thing about Ed
Fulner was that he always made you feel like whatever
you were saying to him, whatever you were talking about,
it was the most important thing to him at that moment.
Nothing else was as just it was incredibly important. He

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made you feel valued, He made you feel like your
opinion mattered, and I always admired him for that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
That is not a gift that I have.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
I think that, you know, I just don't have that
natural ability to just make you feel like you're the
most important person in the world. I think that's a
very special gift. But Ed when he finally stepped down,
there was some turmoil at the top of the Heritage Foundation,
and then Kevin Roberts took over, and he's really Under

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Kevin roberts leadership, they've turned Heritage into more of a
political advocacy organization instead of the incredible high level think
tank that it was for a very long time. And
I often thought to myself, I wonder how Ed feels
about that, because part of me can see Ed being
happy about it, because for you know, if you put

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out incredible scholarship year after year after year after year
and nothing changes, what's the point, right? But for me,
I liked it the old way. I guess that's the
ineffective way. The way that they didn't get dragged into
a political election in a manner that didn't make them
look good.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
And Ed Fulner was the guy who kept the wheels on.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
And now he has passed away, and the conservative movement
has lost an incredible voice and a really nice man.
So rest in peace, Ed, thank you for all you
did to fight the good fight. Hopefully we won't let
you down.

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Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
To the third hour of the show. I'm your host
for the next hour. Grant Smith in with me today.
I believe back to the normal producer schedule tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
Yes, I think so.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
You guys will be back in your little windows. I
was just enthusiastically waving my hands over my head in
the air like I just don't care during the theme song,
and I realized I did too many overhead prices this morning,
and now I might have hurt myself dancing to my
own theme song. You're just stretching it out after it
could workout. Yeah, there we go, There we go. Anyway,

(01:09:56):
got a couple of stories. I just heard Keenan's news
about represent of Jason Crow visiting an ice facility in Aurora,
and this what's interesting about this story is that, first
of all, it is my understanding and until I see
some significant evidence to the contrary, I believe that as

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a member of Congress, Jason Crow has the right to
visit these ice attention.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Facilities to do oversight.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Now what's interesting to me is that, first of all,
there's no story attached to this in Denver Gazette. I
don't know what happened to the actual story here. But
nonetheless I know the story, so I can just share
it with you from memory, because that's what I do
as your talk show hosts. I memorize things and then
share them to you and hopefully get them right. So

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Jason Crow shows up at the ice detention facility in Aurora,
which he has done, according to his office, multiple times,
to do oversight and check how things are going in
the ice detention facility. I have no issue with that.
I don't think anybody should have issue with a member
of Congress wanting to engage in oversight over a facility
run by the federal government in their district. I think

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that's perfectly reasonable. So I went back because I thought
to myself, well, if Jason Crow's office as he's been
in the ice Aurora Detention facility multiple times, then surely
he must have been, you know, releasing information about those visits,
like talking about how everything was fine and that there
was nothing to see, and that you know, the people

(01:11:27):
being detained there were being treated fairly and humanely.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
I mean I looked.

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
I went back, and I looked on his Twitter feed
and his I went to his office page, you know
where they have the represented Jason Crow office, and I
looked for the press release about hey, everything's fine at
the Aurora Ice Facility, and weirdly, not a peep. Now
do I think someone made a really dumb mistake by
telling him he can't come in?

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
Yeah, I mean it sounds to me like somebody who's
working on the weekend, didn't know who Jason Crow was,
didn't care to find out, made a decision, and now
Jason Crow is going to run around and make hay
about it. I say, let him in, let him in,
and then ask him to have a press conference. Outside
the detention facility, letting everyone know exactly what is going
on in the ice detention facility. I think that's perfectly fine.

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But what we have here is a congressman who doesn't
seem interested in telling us that everything is fine all
the other times that his office says he's been to
the ice detention facility where obviously there was nothing wrong,
because surely we would have heard about it because in
being a night entry is now being put out as
front page news. So you can say where I know,

(01:12:37):
I'm a little confused about why what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Oversight would also include.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Letting people know when things are going okay when you think,
I mean, I would think. So this is one of
those stories that I'm sure will be remedied. Once someone
at the ice facility was like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Why did you do that?

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Now we got this congressman running around acting like we
got something.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
To hide, blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
So let him in, let him check it out, and
then I eagerly await his his update where he says
I went in there and everything was fine, all right.
I look forward to it, Congressman, I do. I found
a story on the AP today that it caught my
eye because I was like, well, is this an opinion
piece at the Associated Press? But it does not appear

(01:13:26):
to be anywhere. There's no indication that this is an
opinion piece. The headline is Republicans can't stop talking about
Joe Biden. That may be a problem. Like, okayap, I'll
bite tell me where the problem is. It's been six
months since Joe Biden left the Oval Office, Republicans, including

(01:13:49):
President Donald Trump, can't stop talking about him. The House
has launched investigations asserting that Biden's closest advisors covered up
a physical and mental decline during the eighty two year
old Democrats presidency. The Senate has opened a series of
hearings both focused on his mental fitness, and Trump's White
House has opened its own investigation into the Biden administration's

(01:14:10):
use of the presidential auto pen, which Trump is called
one of the biggest scandals in the history of our country.
It all fits with Trump's practice of blaming his predecessors
for the nation's ills. Okay, that sentence right. There has
there ever been a president that hasn't blamed their predecessor
for the country's ills, But I'll continue ap. Just last

(01:14:35):
week he tried to deflect criticism of his administration's handling
of Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking case by casting blame on others,
including Biden. Turning the spotlight back on the former president
carries risks for both parties heading into the twenty twenty
six midterms. The more Republicans are Democrats talk about Biden,
the less they can make arguments about the impact of

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Trump's presidency positive or negative, especially as sweeping new text
cut and spending law that is reshaping the federal government.
Most Americans considered Joe bidenby yesterday's News, Republican poster Wit
Air said, the part that made me laugh out loud
this morning in my basement was the part that, somehow,

(01:15:19):
six months in to Donald Trump's term, when people are
still trying to find out the scope of the cover
up that hid from the American people, that the President
of the United States of America couldn't stay awake past
four pm, that he had lapses in memory that were
significant enough to where he asked dead people to stand

(01:15:43):
and forgot that someone had died while.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
He was president of the United States.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
And when people brought it up, we were told it
was agist to talk about such things. They were cheap fakes,
remember that. So yeah, of course we should all move
on from the greatest scandal that is being Ah, you know,
it's so, that's so twenty twenty five. Excuse me, twenty
twenty four. Why are you even still talking about that?

(01:16:10):
You know why I'm still talking about it because a
lot of the people that enabled that cover up, a
lot of the people that were intimately involved with that
cover up, are still very important parts of the Democratic
Party and I don't trust them, I really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
So yeah, we're gonna keep talking about it. And by
the way, I did a.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Quick Google search for any headline that admonished Republican or
excuse me, Democrats to stop talking about Donald Trump, and
so weird, not one, not one by the Associated Press.
But hey, big ups to you guys for putting this
out to remind Republicans that they need to focus on
the future and not on the troublesome past, where the

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party on the other side of the aisle perpetuated a
scam of massive proportions that include covering up the fact
that the President of the United States was completely addled
for good. Only knows how long and by the way,
the people that were actively involved in the cover up,
none of them have come clean, none of them have
caught to it, none of them have stepped up to say, wow, yeah,

(01:17:15):
I'm really sorry I did that, because for them, it
was all about the power and keeping power and making
sure their teams stayed in power. Anyway, when we get back,
I'm not saying Trump will be seen as the greatest
president in the history of all time, but there have
been a couple things that have happened lately that are

(01:17:37):
moving him up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
In my estimation.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
One more big win may be coming the way of
those of us who have to go through security at airports.
I'll tell you about it when we get back, President Trump.
I am not a super fan, but when the man
does something brilliant, I'm going to let him know that
something is brilliant, and I'm just gonna give him credit

(01:18:01):
for I'm gonna go ahead and give him credit for
this second thing, even though it hasn't happened yet. The
next time you go to the airport and you don't
have tsa pre check, you get to keep your shoes on. Yeah,
you heard it here first and now and now, ladies
and gentlemen, after twenty years of idiocy, we may be

(01:18:25):
able to take a bottle of something larger than three
ounces of liquid through security as well. I know, what,
what are we gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Great? I might just I might just get multiple bottles
of water. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
I'm gonna have a yogurt. I'm gonna have a gogurt
just for good measure, a gogurt and a yogurt. Like,
I am so excited about the prospect of us being
able to do away with the indy OC just a TSA.
What was the reason that was in place in the
first Okay, well, first of all the removal of the shoes.
We have give that because failed shoe barber Richard Ree.

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And then out of nowhere here comes the liquid thing
because somebody somewhere might have heard something that some terrorists
was thinking about doing something with some liquid. And you know,
C four looks just like yogurt apparently on the old technology.
Have you seen, like do you ever stand where you
can see the screen that they're screening now in the
new TA you can't really see it in the new

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section of the Denver Airport.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
The imagery is crazy, Like if you're bringing something they're
gonna know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
Oh my god, and it all lights up a different color,
so you're like, oh, yeah, that's what my hairspray looks like.
Oh there's my shampoo. Yeah, let's see what you're doing there.
Homan's Hereity Secretary Christy nome hinted it possible changes. Now,
before you start to freak out and think that it
will be less safe to fly, I just want you
to know, since all of this was put in praise,

(01:19:52):
I believe that the TSA has caught exactly zero terrorists,
so I don't expect her to be a big run
on terrorists at the airport. The reality is is that
the equipment has been updated and now they have multiple
ways to scan us and our baggage and all of
that stuff. So it's just gotten they've just gotten better

(01:20:14):
at it. So and this is this is interesting. They
asked a Metro State science professor about it, and of
course he was saying the same things. I am the
equipment's gotten better, but he said details of the rumor
changes haven't been rolled out.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
They're currently under review.

Speaker 5 (01:20:33):
And this professor said information is slow to come out
on this, but part of it is maybe just increasing
the amount of liquids that you could carry. That also
comes with some necessary proactive thinking, because that three ounce
rule was made for a reason. But what's the reason.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
Let's see why was the three ounce oh, three ounce
rule at airports made.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Let's see what the internet says. It is to lessen
the chances of liquid explosive being brought on board commercial aircraft.
But you know what, grant, I've seen enough movies to
know that a little teeny tidy bit of something really
explosive is all you need. Yeah, you don't need a lot,
you know, you just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
So yeah, TSA yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
Oh let's see here this from two thousand and seven
from the New York Times, dag nab but it's not
gonna let me have it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
They did a story.

Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
Turns out there's a reason for those three ounce bottles.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Well, what is it?

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
What can you blow up with three point five ounces
that you can't equally blow up with three ounces of something?
Just curious.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
Because I'm just, you know, just wanted to know. It's
weird the stuff we banned.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
We know that in Switzerland you can't take a laser
pointer through security. Found that out the hard way. Mandy
is someone who can't afford to fly like millions of others.
TSA struggles are not really high on my priority list.
We live in different Americas. I understand that, but I
think for every person like you who's in a position
where you don't feel like you can afford to fly,

(01:22:17):
and have you seen the rates on Frontier? Just pointing
that out there. The reality is is that a lot
of people that are listening audience fly for work on
a regular basis and fly for pleasure whenever they can.
So yes, this does matter, Mandy. I might just try
and bring a twenty four pack of bottled water through security.
I feel that passive aggressiveness and I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
It's Craig and Longlant. Just a quick shout out to
the Disabled American Veteran event in Fort Morgan on Saturday
that you spoke about last week. Jerry Darnell, I'm a
twenty year retired Navy veteran. I went to this event,
having retired in twenty eleven. I've never it, never had
the VA reassess my disability ratings since certain medical issues
have occurred that may or may not be served connected.

(01:23:00):
I'm now starting that process. Thanks for featuring them on
the air.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
We have several more of those events coming up, and
I'll give you those dates as we get closer. So
I've got a question, not a big question. If you
had a genetic test that showed you were prone to obesity,
what direction do you go with that information. We'll talk
about that after this. We're wrapping up the show. Grant

(01:23:30):
Smith here, I hope this is an entertaining show. Grant,
why do you say that?

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
Because it's Grant's.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
Leaving after he produced Ross's show the other day. He
stops at the door before Ross leaves the opener, He goes, Hey, Ross,
that was a really fun show. Just want to let
you know. And I was like, you never say that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
You work with me never. Well, as I told you
off there, I always expect to have fun with you. Ross.

Speaker 5 (01:23:54):
Bar is high. It's very high.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
I'll take it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Okay, We've got a couple things I want to talk about.
One they may have soon a genetic test that would
predict a child's risk of obesity in adulthood, and they say,
paving the way for early interventions. Now, this is one

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of those things where I don't know if I want
to know, because there would be part of me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
That would say, well, I'm gonna be obese.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Why, I mean, why, you know, why work on it,
Why try to fight it, Why try to stave it off?
The sort of hopelessness that comes with the fact that
you're genetically predisposed, predisposed to have this issue. And ultimately,
kids who are obese when they are children are are

(01:24:51):
far more likely to be obese as adolescents, and then
they are far more likely to remain obese into adulthood.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
And that doesn't come.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
From nowhere, right, It comes from the fact that often
their parents are also obese because they are either uneducated
about you know, what to eat and how to eat it,
they sometimes choose to remain uneducated about that, they have
really bad diets themselves, and they pass those on to
their kids. So, I mean, you could almost say having

(01:25:25):
obese parents is a is a big marker for whether
or not you're going to be obese as an adult.
And I don't know, this is just one of those
It's kind of like if you knew that you were
going to get, you know, some kind of fatal disease
at a certain point in your life that you can't
do anything about. You know, there's no lifestyle factors you

(01:25:48):
can change that you can fix or do anything like.
I wouldn't want to know. I would just like to
go off into oblivion. Now if it's something that I
can change, If they say, look, your dad had a
stroke and you're you know, par both have Type two diabetes,
these are things that you have to mitigate. That's exactly
what I'm in the process of working on every day
of my life. You know, That's why I exercise every day.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
There is more and more research coming out on a
daily basis that says daily exercise can help with this
condition or that condition, or stave off dementia or any
of these things. And when you throw weight training into
the mix, that is almost like a superpower. It supercharges
your body's ability to live well. So there's so much

(01:26:36):
information about diet and exercise. But if I'm going to
get some disease I can't control and I can't stop
and it's just gonna happen, I don't want to know.
And I don't know if we should be telling little
children that they're predisposed to obesity. I think you can
tell every kid in the South, you know what you're
predisposed to obesity because you live in the South, and
there's something to that you grow up eating all that

(01:26:58):
horrible for you, but yet delicious food in a place
where it's so hot you don't want to be outside.
I mean, that's you're well on your way to obesity
right there. I'm wondering if you guys would want to
know five six six nine zero is the common Spirit
health text line? Text me your answer, like when is
too much information? Too much information? I love things like

(01:27:22):
my fitness tracker. I love that I'm about to have
some DNA testing done that will tell me more about
how my body operates so I can do the right
kind of exercise and eat the right kind of diet
for my genetics. I think all that stuff is super fascinating.
We're getting into a time when we are going to
be able to highly personalize your medical experience based on

(01:27:43):
your DNA. You know, I had a story the other
day about co directal cancel. Co directal cancer cases are
rising in mostly African American and Hispanic people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Why is that?

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
We do know that there's certain diseases that affect you know,
certain races and don't seem to affect other races, So
there are definitely some kind of biological differences there. What
we have to make sure is that we're including enough
African American and Hispanic people in all of the medical
studies that are being done. Do you guys realize it's
just been within the past, I don't know, decade or

(01:28:19):
so that a concerted effort to get women into these
studies has been made, that we've just been studying dudes
this whole time, and we all know that's not necessarily
going to work long term. Let me go to the
text line five sixty six nine zero. Genetics are way
more appliable on behavioral things than we like to talk about.

(01:28:40):
Take the genetics for an alcoholic. Plenty of alcoholics are
living a clean life because they decide to. I agree.
I do agree, Mandy, it could turn into eugenics. Watch
the sci fi classic Gatica, Ethan Hawk, Uma, Thurman, Jude
Law great Flick. Highly recommend. I've watched parts of that
movie like a thousand times in the last year because

(01:29:03):
it's been on TV a lot. Mandy, genetics is not
destiny at risk of obesity is far different than you
will die by wombat attack. We're joining the wire or
another gym to lower the risk.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
What genetic test am I going to take?

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
I'm not sure yet. I'm in the process of investigating multiples.
When I do take it, if I do like it,
if I think it's effective and healthful, I'll let you
guys know. But I'm an experiment on myself first. Just
let you know, Mandy, the people from Nairou Tonga in
Cook Island say obesity is genetic too.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
You know, here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
About Polynesian culture. A vast majority of their diet is carbohydrates.
It's you know, terror root, it is rice, it is
I mean, they eat so many carbohydrates as a miracle
that anybody's not obese in those cultures. Because meat's not
really a big thing. They're still very poor, so they

(01:29:58):
eat a lot of fish. That's good, but they're shoring
it up with a lot of carbohydrates that's so help So,
you know, that was one of the things I noted
about being in French Polynesia was like, the food is
just really, really really carb heavy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
Mandy. I'd like to know so I could say, oh, yeah,
watch this if you obesity.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
I like your attitude, text her like a lot, Mandy,
I have seventeen years to live according to tables, so
when something can add a year to my life of
eighty five, I'm like, eh, no, thanks, Oh my god,
that's my mother.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
This is my mother.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
I love my mother, and I love my mother's attitude
about stuff. So my mom just had a sleep test
and she found out she has mild sleep apnea.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Right, not a big deal. She's not like, you know,
dying in her sleep every night. And she was talking
about it. She's like, oh, I'm not going to do
the seapap that's not gonna work for me. And I said, well,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
Then she goes, well, I looked up how many people
die in their sleep because of sleep apnea, and I think,
isn't that how we all want to go? You know,
She's like, isn't that I mean, we're not talking about
a thirty five year old man with kids, right.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
No, you know, she's not wrong at all. And I
just I there's certain things that seem kind of heartless.
I have a friend whose father had Alzheimer's disease. He
was diagnosed and he lived for like seven years. One
of the reasons he lived was that she went to
his nursing home twice a day and force fed him

(01:31:30):
and made him eat, even though for the last three
and a half years of his life he had no
idea who she was. And I finally asked her, I said, what.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
Are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
Why are you prolonging your dad's suffering by going and
feeding him twice a day. The natural progression of things
like dimension Alzheimer's, unfortunately, is that people stop eating and
then they pass away, and until we have a cure,
something that can reverse the damage of dimension all hime
Iimer's disease. I just don't think it's humane to keep

(01:32:03):
someone in the deep throes of Alzheimer's disease late stage
disease alive longer than they need to be alive. I
think it's very selfish because I can only imagine how
confusing all of that must be and terrible it is
for people suffering with that. Anyway, Mandy, I know you
weren't born yet, but do you know why we have
security at airports? It was to keep people from hijacking

(01:32:24):
planes to Cuba. When was the last time that happened.
What's funny about that is I have an uncle, my
late uncle Paul, one of my favorite people on the planet,
devastated when he passed away way too young. But my
uncle Paul was on a plane that got hijacked to Cuba.
He lived in Fort Lauderdale. He was flying from Tampa
to Fort Lauderdale for work, and they hijacked his plane

(01:32:46):
and took them to Havana. They let everybody off the plane.
In Havana, they all bought a bunch of rum and
cigars and then flew back on the.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
Same plane to Miami and they were met by.

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
All these customs and all these important government people, and
they saw they were just basically like armfuls of Cuban
rum and cigars and didn't say anything. They were just like,
you guys can go.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
That's the best possible outcast a hijacked plane.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
Well in, my aunt calls, this is how my aunt.
My aunt buries the lead. My aunt calls and goes, oh,
your uncle Paul just got two boxes of Cuban cigars.
That's her opening up. Okay, not your uncle Paul was
on a plane that was hijacked to No, your uncle
Paul just got two boxes of Cuban cigars.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
And I was like, well, that's kind.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
This was when they were so contraband, right, like now
it's not a big deal, but back then, very big deal.
And I was like, well that's kind of cool. Where
did he get those from? Well he was on a
plane that was hijacked to Cuba.

Speaker 9 (01:33:44):
I'm like, what.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Caught up?

Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
You left out the important part there. She's like, no,
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
What was the reason the planes were getting hijacked? Kids?

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
People wanted to go to Cuba. I don't understand why.
This is before they started trying to come here on
the inner tubes over the Strait of Florida. You know,
I don't remember why people wanted to go to Cuba.
I mean, was that one like like communism was cool
the first time?

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
Do you know these kids today running around wanting communism?
They're too lazy to hijack a plane, grant they can't
be bothered anyway, Mandy, all men want to go the
same way as Nelson Rockefeller or Private Benjamin's husband. I'm
gonna assume you mean in the sack, you know what
I mean, how horrifying would that be for your partner? Well,

(01:34:37):
I've finally killed a man. Finally happened after all these years,
just saying, Mandy, I've been technically obese my whole life.
I'm currently five ten and two fifteen. I'm within ten
pounds of what I graduated high school with in nineteen
seventy four. And if you're still in good health, don't
worry about it. It's all about your numbers, your blood pressure,
your cholesterol. How you doing, I mean, can you breathe

(01:35:01):
when you go up the stairs? Got a good cardiovascular health?
What's your resting heart rate? Worry about that instead.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
I'm man.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
If you're a man and live in the South and
your tap water comes from the Mississippi Watershed, you're at
high risk of man boobs. As wastewater treatment is not
terribly effective at removing borth control hormones from wastewater, given
that water is used six or seven times over before
it gets there, there are elevated levels of estrogen in
the water in the South. That's fascinating. I had no

(01:35:32):
idea Mandy's seventy two in a daily exercising nutrition freak.
I would not want to know control as much as
I can, but come on, life's a crapshoot. Also, I
won't share my DNA look at twenty three and meters
that from Rocky Mountain Bronx spill. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mandy.

(01:35:53):
If you have too much information on parents' ailments, it
could cause you stress and have anxiety. I am, I am,
I'm really lucky, and that with a few exceptions, I
might be the least anxious person that I know. And
I'm being genuine. I naturally am a stoic, meaning if

(01:36:18):
I can control it, I control it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
If I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:36:21):
Control it, then why am I going to worry about it?
Because if there's nothing I can do, right, I can
only do what I can do. I can only control
what I can control in my little sphere of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
And beyond that, you just have to say, I mean,
in my case, I just trust God.

Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
My God will figure it out. Dog, God's got a plan.
I just I don't have to worry about it. If
I can't fix it, I am not the least bit
worried about it. So text or I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
I do, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
The problem is a lot of these therapies cost a
lot of money, and they're not going to be available
to everyone, so there's going to be some disparity between
the people who can afford wonderful genetic treatments and the
ones who can't. That's absolutely true until the market takes over. Right,
all of this stuff is new, and when it's not

(01:37:12):
new anymore, then the cost will go down. One of
the worst things, and this is going to sound so counterintuitive,
you guys, one of the worst things that will happen
to these treatments is if they start getting covered by insurance,
because now then you've disorted the market. If the market decides,
everyone will be able to afford to do this stuff.
But the reality is there is a zero dollar barrier

(01:37:35):
to getting daily exercise. You can do it all with
body weight and walking and be just fine. And there's
very very low barrier to eating real food. Maybe you
buy your vegetables frozen, perfectly fine. The problem is that
most people don't want to take the effort. They don't
want to put the effort in, right, Mandy, about the Polynesians,

(01:37:57):
they're spam meters, and oddly, the spam is often the
least bad part of the meal. I made spam fried
rice the other night, and if I do say so myself,
it might have been some of the best spam fried
rice I've ever made. Ben Albright coming to the studio. Ben,
if I made a cooking show, would you watch it?
If I started cooking stuff and you know, putting it

(01:38:18):
out there, would you watch it you made a cooking show,
I didn't have me on, I'd be personally insulted. Well, uh,
what's your specialty? What's your jam? What's the Ben Albright?
You know, going on a date, making dinner for a
girl the first time, what's.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
Your go to to?

Speaker 8 (01:38:30):
I go to make would be I've got these Baja
Street tacos.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
That a delish.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
That's nice, seems kind of fancy, but really just chopping that.

Speaker 10 (01:38:37):
Yeah, not that difficult, really, you know, I mean the
skirtstaks the hardest part about all of it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
So yeah, there you go. So, yes, you're invited on
the cooking show that doesn't exist yet.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
Yes, we need to, we need to.

Speaker 8 (01:38:47):
We need a good doctor.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
And I already know what I'm gonna call it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
I'm gonna call it the chat and chew. Like I'll
just invite people on like you, and we'll just chit
chat about stuff while together, jew chat and chew.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
Okay, you know, I think that'd be fine. All right,
I'm for it. That's a thing. Replace I talk.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
About something that I made, then inevitably I get forty
people asking for the recipe.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
So I'm like, just cut to the chase. Well for me,
Like for me when I go out and I have something,
and I'm like, I love that. Now I need to
go home and replicate that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
Okay, funny story. So Saturday night we went to Seasons
fifty two down here. Phenomenal just that there. They are
so consistently good, right, And I had a watermelon and
feta salad that I went home and made on Sunday.

Speaker 10 (01:39:27):
I was like, oh, I can make this, and it
was I don't do too many salads, no good. But
I did have a fruit and walnut salad at a
place one time. That was the first thing I did.
They did it like it was a a feta and strawberries, walnuts,
arugolas with a.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Raspberry vitig read over the top. This was watermelon.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
You got your feta in there. There was a rugel
in there to give it some pepper. But I didn't
use a ruggle at home. I used mint because I
have fresh mint, so I used that instead. And then
a little bit of olive oil, a little bit of
of let me see what else salt and pepper. I
was gonna use to heen, but it seemed like it
would be too much. And then some fresh tomatoes chopped
in there that I don't eat. The chuck does I
pick them out? I don't like the tomatoes.

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
Tomatoes.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
It was fantastic. It was so good, and I'm gonna
go home that I might make it again today.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
I don't know. Okay, I'm just gonna have to wait
and see.

Speaker 5 (01:40:12):
Turn over to the next episode of Chatting Shoe with
Mandy and my first guests Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
Alright, yeah, I'm very again. I'll my apron.

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
Yeah, it's gonna happen. I mean maybe it is.

Speaker 8 (01:40:21):
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
Last text Mandy, I have an aunt.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
My marriage who we aren't close to, who is slowly
passing away from leukemia. My dad passed similarly from leukemia
fifteen years ago. Any advice, I've been distant, but I
want to be supportive. Let me just say this, you guys,
when anyone is in a medical situation, just show up
in any way you can. If you're not close to
these people, call them and say I heard you were struggling.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
I just wanted to say hello, give them the same
closure you would want them to give you.

Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
I have never regretted going to see someone who was dying,
even when it was hard.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
My father and I did not have relationship. He was abusive,
terrible person, yep. But when he was dying of cancer,
I went down to go get last you know, to
get the closure, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:02):
Yeah, So just whatever support you can you can show
you will never regret being supportive when someone is dying.
Just exactly, Mandy, just climb the manituin climb me fifty
five wife fifty seven time one hour, twenty minutes, three hour,
ran round trip, decent but not great shape. Mostly stayed
with the same group except for the runners runner stop it,

(01:41:24):
stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
Okay, thank you for that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
And now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio of It's gime.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
Ow's the day?

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
All right, what is our dad joke up to day?

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
Please grant Dad joke of the day played a YouTube
theme board game called Bono Poli. It's like a regular
regular monopoly, but where the streets have no name.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
Oh wow, that's that's like a high level dad joke,
you know what I mean. You gotta have some background
on that. You can't just deploy that one.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
What is our word of the day, please, word of
the day. Something Benjamin Albright is not lacking hubris?

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Oh huh.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Hubris is self confidence to the point of ego.

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
Yes, there you go. Correct, this is today's trivia question.

Speaker 5 (01:42:13):
Is super easy? Who played the character of Obi Wan
Kenobi in the original nineteen seventy seven Star Wars film
and it sequels the Empire strikes back and the retort
of the Jedi?

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
Easy peasy?

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Never seen any of them?

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, but let me
just repeat what.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
Never not? Once? Huh? Clip like in part but never
sat down? And that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:42:42):
I mean he's young anyway, Mandy being a battery killer?
Have you ever tried witching for water?

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
Are those two things connecting?

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
I don't understand any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:42:54):
Well, that was a toss back to something in a
watch I'm about Killay.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
I was like, I don't, there you go?

Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
What is our jeopardy category?

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
All kinds of phrases? Okay, this phrase means to exaggerate,
involves increasing the size of a mound made by a brow.
Oh dang it. What is making a mountain out of
a mole hills. Correct, well done, Ben. Originally referring to Matthew, Mark,
Luke and John's work, this two word phrase has come
to mean anything believed unreservedly, Ben, what is the gospel?

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
All?

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
What is the gospel? Truth? Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:43:36):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
Takes you down to zero?

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
I needed that?

Speaker 5 (01:43:40):
Thanks?

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Way? Good? Try with and without monster, It's how Shakespeare
described jealousy. With or without monster.

Speaker 8 (01:43:54):
Got to be a reference to the tempest or something that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
No, it's I know this, I know this.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
Okay, what is it? We don't know?

Speaker 8 (01:44:01):
What is green eyed?

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
Dang it? Green eyed? Okay, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
We're at one zero.

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
Yes, on a plane, it's something flight attendants due to
the doors the ice, Mandy, what is disarm incorrect? You
want me to read? Please? On a plane it's something
flight attendants due to the doors on the ice. It's
a penalty involving a hit with a stick. Oh, then,
what is cross checking? Correct? I'll tie it up now.

(01:44:32):
The old switcheroo last one an incomprehensible religious gloss of
celia Glossialala's religious glossialala g L O S S O
L I A L A Sorry Okay, go ahead read
the rest of the question. This phrase a what an

(01:44:53):
incomprehensible religious gloss oflelea gives us this phrase? I have
no idea. Sorry, I'm butchering that. What is it speaking
in tongues? I was gonna guess that.

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
I should have guessed. No guts, no glory day. I
congrats Ben Big one did zero win? Brushed it jerk anyway, No,
I'm just kidding. Which show were you on today?

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
Sports? Feeling for Ryan Nice? It must be nice to
be a devon. Just take days off whatever you want.

Speaker 5 (01:45:20):
You know, I need you to let Ryan know that
Pumpkins Pice Latte is coming out on August twenty six.

Speaker 10 (01:45:25):
Of my existence, I railed against Big Pumpkin every year.
You and Big Pumpkin ut makes.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
I know we'll be back tomorrow. Keep it on, Koe,