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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:27):
Welcome to eight Friday edition of the show altogether. Now woo,
that's right. That voice you hear over there, that's Grant
Smith in for Anthony Rodriguez, who was in because of
Bronco's training camp. Uh, it's a busy, busy time at
Broncos training camp, not as busy as it is in
the Rockies clubhouse. Grant Hey, rod just tweeted this out

(00:51):
and on behalf of KOA. You should follow us at
at X dot com and we are at KOA, Colorado
there and it says Ryan McMahon has been shipped at
the Yankees for two prospects. What's your reaction to the trade.
The only reaction there can be is, of course they did.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Of course I've been saying this for about two weeks. Yeah,
since I saw the first rumor. It just made sense.
You know, we're in the dumps and they need a
third baseman and he's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yep. All my favorite players ever for the Rockies has
been traded by the rock I mean, we don't. We
don't want to sink the joint up with any all
star players, you know what I mean, Like, let's get
those guys out as fast as possible. Maybe we'll trade
the Catchphunter Goodman before Fred.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
I mean it could.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yep, you never know, you never know what those Rockies
are gonna do. It's the Rockies way. It's the Rockies way.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Grant, I'll take that back. One of my favorite players
has not been traded. Charlie Blackman retired. Everyone else had
that going for him anyway. By the way, we forgot
to say it's Friday all together.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Oh we didn't. We did the woo who? Yeah, never
mind again. No, I'm good. I'm good with the woo
and the who. Let's do this. Let's go to the
blog because it is a busy day. And I just
found out that Darryl Hammond you was really excited about.
And I had chat GBT tell me all about Darryl's
career on the way here so I could get back
up to speed. I was shocked at how much I remembered,

(02:14):
if I'm honest. Uh, but he can't do the interview today,
so a little bit bummed about that. Just a little
bit bummed. Find the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com.
That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says
seven twenty five twenty five blog Representative Gabe Evans, Comedian
Darryl Hammond put a big scratch through that in your mind.

(02:36):
I'll fix that in a minute and a freedom fest.
Click on that and here are the headlines you will
find within.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
I didn't do with someone whom office half of American
all with ships and clipments.

Speaker 8 (02:44):
A that's going to press Flint.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Today. On the blog, Representative Gabe Evans is trying to
fix immigration. There's a freedom Fest next weekend. Comedian blah
blah blah. It's an ask me anything sort of day.
Can the wash Park Lobby stop this? The Haltzter has died.
We've got some pretty dang good hotel restaurants. Richard Holtorf
is the new vice chair of the Colorado GOP. Another expensive,

(03:09):
rushed project is rolled out by the Doug Co Commission.
Have you seen the twisted view? Donald Trump is having
a great week. Old school parenting is coming back. In style,
A task force to tackle student on teacher violence. Trump
makes in voluntary commitment cool again. The US birth rate
hit an all time low. Step comes to the springs

(03:30):
that Colorado overtime laws being sued over. It's grimchyet Christmas
at the Gay Lord Denver's finally doing something about permitting
Chelsea Gabbard brings receipts stuff to do this weekend? Could
the view be on the chopping block? In his Vegas
tourism in Trouble A great tribute to Ozzy, How golf
was invented? A super creepy convo with chat GPT. This

(03:54):
music's music teacher Rocks keeps your dang shoes on. The
most Colorado Man Live according to AI and Christian Todeo
Reviews Fantastic four. Those are the headlines on the blog
at mandy'sblog dot com and Grant. I sent Grant the
video of the most Colorado Man in the World. Somebody
went to an AI video generator and said, I want

(04:17):
you to create a video of the most Colorado man
in the world. And I belly laughed when I saw
this because scarily accurate. Okay, it's so accurate. Well, you
know you've always heard Grant that moving to Colorado is
the guy equivalent of getting bangs, right, Like when girls
want to change their lives, they go and get bangs.
I'm getting bangs. I'm making at Yep. They all moved

(04:39):
to Colorado, yep, wherever you know, they're good with it.
So let's talk about Okay, Daryl Hammond, his plane got grounded,
so he got in late, and he did some warning
shows and he's super tired and he wants to get
ready for the shows this weekend at Comedy Works in
the Landmark. So he's like, I'm super sorry, and they
were very nice. They were like, he'd love to meet

(04:59):
you at the show. I was like, I just wanted
him on my show. Is that so wrong? I'm a
big fan, by the way, Daryl Hammond, of course, longtime
cast member. I think one of the longest cast members.
I believe. I heard chat TBT tell me that his
all of his impressions, My absolute favorite is Sean Connery
on Jeopardy. That is my absolute one of my favorite

(05:21):
all time skits, one of my favorite all time impressions,
and one of my just favorite all time. And I
would love to just say, come on, hit me with
some Sean Connery, come on, hit me, hit on me
as Sean Connery, Like how cool would that be? I mean,
you don't really have to hit on me, but I'm
just saying, you know, like, hit on me as Sean
that would be fantastic, but you can't make it and whatever.

(05:44):
Sleep blah blah blah. It's fine. So my friend Joshua
Sharf I talked about his column on karth aft a
couple days ago. He is going to pinch hit for
Daryl Hammond. I don't know if Joshua does any voices. Well,
we're gonna find out at twelve thirty, so we're gonna
do that. That's going to come up at twelve thirty instead,
and it'll it'll be just as good, if not better. Anyway.

(06:08):
We also have Representative Gabe Evans coming up today at
one point thirty. We are going to talk to him
about two things, the Dignity Act. This is already on
I'm on I kind of lurk on a lot of
political Facebook pages. I don't participate. I just lurk, and
there are more and more people on the right, and

(06:30):
I lurk in some like pretty hard right Republican Facebook pages,
and I lurk in some you know, more moderate Republican
Facebook pages. I don't really lurk in any democratic Facebook
pages because I mean, why you know, but there are
far more Republicans than I thought that are saying we

(06:51):
need to look at what Representative Gabe Evans is presenting
because we've got to solve this problem. And I I
will tell you that in two thousand and eight, when
Marco Rube and the Gang of Eight proposed this massive
immigration reform, and it did not really address border security
in any meaningful way, and there was no triggers that

(07:11):
would have had to be met before anything else could
take place, which is really important to me, border security first. Right, Well,
now we're in a much different position. And I said
this the other day. Now is the perfect time to
do major immigration reform because we finally have significant security
at the border and it could change very very quickly.
We saw that happen in the Biden administration. Depending on

(07:33):
who the next person in the White House is, it
could go in a completely different way, very very fast.
So now is the perfect time we need to have
some sort of resolution on these issues because it is
always being used as a political football and as far
as I'm concerned, the Republican Party, because they are concerned

(07:53):
about border security, they have the edge right now.

Speaker 8 (07:57):
Now.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
The images that are coming out of people who are
in the country illegally being rounded up by Ice are
quickly turning public opinion against deporting people, which goes against
the Republican edge because that's what Republicans have been campaigning on. Right,
they've been campaigning on And ironically, voters voted for this,
whether they know it or not. This is what they

(08:18):
voted for. This is what Trump said he was going
to do. So this is all just like, this is
what you voted for. But you also have to be
politically aware enough to know what's doable and what's not.
And for the hardliners on the right, And don't get

(08:39):
me wrong, I don't want to make this sound like
I don't understand why you feel the way you feel.
I think it's incredibly unfair that someone came here illegally
is going to get any kind of preferential treatment. And yes,
giving someone who's been here before twenty twenty one and
with no criminal record, no use of welfare, giving them
legal status is definitely giving them special treatment. But the

(09:03):
reality is politically, I don't think you can get anything
done in a Congress this closely divided because you can't
do it like you did the Big Beautiful Bill. You
don't have that option. Now you've got to get the
votes in the Senate. So you have to bring Democrats
along with this. And let me tell you something, anything

(09:23):
that politicians can fundraise off of, don't expect a timely solution.
It will only be because the American people vocally demand
that Congress take real action on immigration that anything will
happen because both sides fundraise off this. Republicans fundraise off
border security, Democrats fundraise on you know, being a compassionate city.

(09:50):
Isn't that what we hear? Compassionate? We're a country of immigrants,
as if they're all the same kind of immigrants. So
we're going to talk to Gabe Evans about that. But
I am pleasantly surprised that I see a lot of
people that are probably.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
Like me in that.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
In two thousand and eight, I was one hundred percent
against any of that immigration reformed stuff because it did
not do anything about border security. But now now that
we have a secure border, we have a somewhat secure
border that going forward is going to get stronger because
we have real commitments of real money to go to

(10:23):
border security and make sure that our border is no
longer as poorous as it has been. Now, I want
to talk about what to do about people that have
been here for a really long time without breaking the
law other than entering the country illegally. Because there's a
lot of people here that have been here for a
super long time and all they've done is work really hard,

(10:46):
raise families, things of that nature. They're not going to
be a problem going forward, and that's really what I
care about. By the way, I want to make sure
that the people that we're allowing to stay are not
people who are here to be bad actors, you know.
I want to make sure that that we're looking at
people that are here to live the American dream. But
we have got to stop the immigration football. I mean,

(11:07):
think about how long ago it was that Barack Obama
gave Dreamers status and nothing permanent has been done on
their behalf. How that's absurd. We've used these people's lives
as a political football.

Speaker 9 (11:23):
Why is that?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Okay? We've got to do something. And I think Gabe Evans,
even if you don't love every provision of this, and
we're going to go through him real quickly, with him
a little bit later at least he's jumping off. We've
now got a starting point from which we can have
conversations about how to make this work for as many
people as we can on both sides of the aisle,
while recognizing the political realities on the ground. And I

(11:46):
think all of this has to be taken into consideration.
You can be as hardline as you want, but you're
not going to get anything done. I mean, that's just
the reality. I'm going to use the Thomas Massey example here,
and you guys know I'm a huge Thomas Massey fan.
It's been really disheartening to see conservative pundits that I
genuinely like turn against Thomas Massey for staying principled. But

(12:10):
the critics are right when they say, when you're a
Thomas Massey and you are as rock ribbed principled as
he is, you're not a very effective politician because politics
is not about rock ribbed principles. It's about having principles
and having standards, but it's also about negotiation. It's also
about figuring out how to come to a conclusion where

(12:33):
everybody is a little unhappy about it, right, that should
be the best possible option. Everybody's got a little something
to be unhappy about. But otherwise, we've fixed a problem.
We have to fix this problem. We simply must. It's
long past when we should have already taken care of
this issue. So we'll talk to Representative Gabe Evans about that.

(12:54):
At one o'clock, we're going to talk to Colorado Veterans
Project Board President Brandy Mouranian. They have a super fun
event coming up next weekend. It's in Parker. It's a
Freedom Fest. And you know, the Colorado Veterans Project does
all kinds of cool events and this is just another one.
And we're going to talk to Brandy about that at
one o'clock. And it's an ask me anything sort of day.

(13:17):
But today I am asking for very specific advice because
your talk show host, and I'm just going to say,
I'd better be your favorite talk show host and don't
send text messages to the Common Spirit Health text line
with your list of talk show hosts that are all
better than me. I don't want to hear that because
it's my birthday and I turned fifty six today, which

(13:37):
is like a dumb birthday, you know what I mean.
It's dumb in the sense where nothing good happens. I'm
now at the I'm now at the stage of the
game where I'm like, Oh, do I get medicare what's exciting?

Speaker 8 (13:50):
You know?

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Which restaurants? Do I get this senior discount in the way?

Speaker 10 (13:54):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Thank you very much. When Chuck turned fifty five, we
were in a restaurant and I was like, oh, look, hey,
you can order off the senior menu, and he's like oh,
and then he looks like it.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Goes Oh my god, I can could live in the
senior apartment complexes.

Speaker 10 (14:08):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
I'm thinking about moving to a fifty five plus joint
any minute now. My mom lives in one of those,
though my mom lives hers is more like a full
retirement community. It's so pleasant.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
One of my mom's friends just moved to a place
down in Florida. I forget what it's called.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Villages. Yes, the villages are wild.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I have heard wild.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
The villages are almost It's like you've never seen anything
like it until you see it. And there's a documentary
about the villages. The villages is a massive community that
focuses on and targets retired people. Right, it's a massive
but not just like old people, like active people who
love activities and they're doing zuma and they're playing pinochlely

(14:49):
whatever that is. And a million golf courses. One of
my bars and restaurants. Best friend's son is head of
golf and grounds for the villages. Every flower, every replant,
every golf course, every blade of grass in that property
he is in charge of. Ultimately, isn't that cool?

Speaker 6 (15:06):
But there's a.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Documentary about it. I tried to watch Holy Cow. They
found the three most depressing people in the villages to
focus on. It was like, what are we doing? It
was such a depressing documentary. But I've actually been to
the villages and it's quite remarkable. Everybody's just totaling around
on golf carts. But it's funny. You still have the

(15:27):
same kind of like mean girl's crap and bully stuff
that you had in like junior high. At these retirement
communities got your click stuff. Yeah, and you got old
men bowing up on each other and like, you're seventy five,
what are you really gonna do to the eighty year
old man you're arguing with? At some point, guys, it's
time to take it down a notch. You know what
I mean. It's just time to realize that that moment

(15:47):
from going to fisticuffs has been over for like seventy years. Okay,
stop it. Nothing worse than old men fighting, physically fighting.
So dumb, just so dumb, almost as dumb as girls fighting.
I was gonna say, nobody wants to see a girl fight,
but then I realized, yeah, a lot of people do.
A lot of people like to see girls fight. But

(16:08):
here's what I'm asking today from ask me anything. I'm
asking for Mandy, can we ask anything? Can you please
tell me the blog name? I want to read some
of those stories, m h Randy Cromwell dot com. Randy
Cromwell dot com. Mandy, As I recall, you used to

(16:31):
have a birthday hack where you would switch the numbers.
So happy sixty fifth birthday, Mandy. That is hate speech
on the tech line right there. I mean, don't get
me wrong, I'd rather be sixty five than the alternative.

Speaker 9 (16:43):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
How do they pay taxes without a Social Security number?
That is definitely definitely a question we'll get answered. Mandy
Ice has overwhelmingly high approval ratings. What stats are you
talking about. There are questions being asked by Gallup and
PW about specific deportations and whereas when Trump took off
as they were very, very high. That number is starting

(17:05):
to slide and slide precipitously now, public opinion being what
it is. I don't want to rule by public opinion.
But here's the thing. The midterms are going to be
right around the corner. And when we have margins as
narrow as as the Republicans have in the House and
the Senate, they can't afford to be ticking off anybody.
So it's going to be very interesting to see what happens.

(17:26):
Let's do this. Let's take a quick time out. When
we get back, my friend Joshua Sharf is going to
join us. He just wrote a really good column on
Complete Colorado that will be uploaded to the blog in
the spot where Dale Hammond's information is in right now.
But it's not just about him getting his car stolen.
It is about car theft in Colorado. And you want
to know why your car insurance is so dang high. Yeah,

(17:50):
when you hear the numbers, the stats, holy mackerel, it's
not good, not good. At all. Anyway, we'll do that next.
Thanks to all of you. You just wish me happy
birthday on the text line Happy birthday, Mandy. Congratulations. Sean
Connery has been the top of my list of three
most doable mail actors for years. Ask Guy AI to

(18:11):
make a date with Sean Connery for your birthday. Will
he's dead? So I don't know. Oh, can hear you now? Okay,
you can hear it's now, Joshua Sharf, I can hear
you now. I don't know what was going on. It's weak.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Oh, it's my fault. I was bluetoothed over to your
device that I didn't have.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
The void.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, I'm gonna blame you all. It's clearly your fault.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Now.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Let me let me ask you this. I talked about
your column earlier in the week that you shared about
getting your car stolen, and you didn't put in the
article like what shape was it in when you got
it back?

Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yeah, and actually was not in bad shape all things considered.
They the biggest issue was with the steering column which
they used.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
The hot wire.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
The thing that was of course from the police called
and said, hey, we have it. You know, it's drivable
they didn't tell me obviously it had been hot wired
that I wasn't drivable by me because having never stolen
a car, I didn't know how to start one that
was hot wired. So we had it towed and that's
going to have to be fixed. And there was a

(19:18):
winch on it that was pretty new that they disassembled
and sold, and that was disappointing. And then they cut
into the sauce top a little bit. But you know,
on the whole for two days, it could have been
a heck of a lot worse.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Well, I've never known someone who didn't have their car trash.
And I've probably known five people, which is not a
lot in the grand scheme of things, and not all
here in Denver, that have had their car stolen, and
every single one of them got it back, and they
were destroyed inside outside just malicious vandalism, you know what
I mean, just knifing through seats and doors and stuff

(19:51):
like that. So you're very lucky in that respect, first
of all, that you got it back and you got
it back in decent shape.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Well I got it I very quickly, which I think helped.
There was a friend of mine who had his car stolen.
This back east, had his car stolen and it was used,
as is often the case, in a series of robberies,
and he got it back about five weeks later, and
it was just in the terrible condision, completely destroyed, And
I told him, you know, if they're going to use
it in a series of robberies, the least they could

(20:18):
have done was cutting in on the deal.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, exactly, Well, you did a deeper dive, obviously inspired
by your own personal situation, I'm guessing, into Colorado car
theft overall.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah, it's been talked about quite a bit. You know,
we had this huge run up of car theft here
in the state basically post people really noticed it twenty
twenty and thereafter, but it had been on the rise
even before then, and pretty much it had been averaging
statewide for many years, almost twenty years, about one thousand

(20:52):
vehicles stolen a month, which is which is not so
bad for an entire state. But then at the end
of twenty twenty and into twenty twenty two, it doubled
and then doubled again, so we were getting about four
thousand cars stolen a month, and in Denver itself, not
well in the Denver area itself, a car deaths had
risen to about one thousand a month, about twelve hundred

(21:15):
a month, which you know, prior to that was what
you had seen statewide. So now suddenly you're seeing that
much just in the Denver area. Wow. And it really
and people noticed this, and people noticed there were when
when articles came out a couple of years ago about
how Colorado was finally number one in something and it
turned out to be turned out to be car deaf well,
and it.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Was I read more than once that Denver International Airport
was the number one location where you're going to get
your car stolen.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Yeah it's easy there, right, Oh, sure, any time cameras.
But yeah, it's a target rich environment, as they say,
that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
So where are we now, Joshua. And as a matter
of fact, I've got an email in my email box
that I'm going to respond to after the show from
a guy who works in insurance. And when I talked
about your calum the other day, there's a lot of
sort of unintended consequences of this kind of car theft,
and our increase in insurance rates is just.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
One of them.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Well, absolutely, I mean you certainly see an increase in insurance.
In my case, this is the second time, once by
accident and now by theft. This is the second time
in seven months that the car has been totaled. So yeah,
it's still it's still going to turn out to be driver.
This has to be some sort of record. But it's
still drivable, or will be drivable once the mechanic ends
up fixing the steering columns right right. But it's there

(22:32):
are There are obviously criminal aspects to this that stretch
beyond just the car theft itself. Obviously, the much of
the reason that somebody steals a car is not just
the benefit of being able to sell maybe chop it
up and sell it for cars that happens, but also
the anonymity that comes with having a car that can

(22:54):
be traced to you then being able to go and
commit other crimes, and frequently that's part of a larger
criminal operation, not just some individual knocking off a bunch
of you know, a bunch of grocery stores or something.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
One of my texters said, Mandy, tell him to do
a meth check. We have friends that got their car
back in decent shape, but it failed a meth test.
So you got yours back really quick. Was there any
evidence of drug use or drug anything in there?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
There?

Speaker 6 (23:20):
The insurance guy said that he found evidence of drug paraphernalia.
I'm not sure that. What I didn't smell when I
when I got to the car, what I smelled was
a lot of cigarette smoke. Ill I didn't smell any myth.
But he claimed that there was that there was evidence
of drug use in drug paraphernalia, which is why they
totaled it out. That's that's almost always an immediate total,

(23:41):
no matter the value of the car, solo right out
at that point.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
And it sounds like me, you're driving a two thousand
and five cheap Wrangler. I drive a car until the
wheels fall off. So I'm guessing this car has been
paid off for some time, and you're not looking to
go out and get a new car. And I'm wondering
how many people are are in that same position where
you've got that paid off car and you don't want
to have to do anything else. And now if your

(24:06):
car stolen, you're just kind of screwed. Even if they
totally you're going to end up with a car payment
more than likely.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
Yeah, this is the intersection of a couple of levels
of bad legislation. Part of the reason for the takeoff
of car theft after twenty fourteen, which is when you
started to see it it rise up again, was a
law that was passed that separated the or linked i
should say, the punishment to the value of the car stolen. Yeah,
so the more valuable the car was that was stolen

(24:32):
the heart of the higher the punishment, which created a
great incentive obviously to go and steal cars that were,
you know, older cars, cars that were in maybe are
not such great condition, cars that you know, maybe the
average person drives, or perhaps someone who's who's you know,
in the lower end of the economic spectrum that they drive,
and so they were the ones most at risk now
for having their cars stolen. That was at the same

(24:54):
time that we had pash for clunkers, which took a
whole lot of quality replacement cars off the market and
has contributed to the increase in car prices. So I obviously,
if they had not retrieved, my car would have been
looking for something used. But it puts you that can
put people who aren't as fortunate in a real bind. Yeah, well,

(25:15):
now they've got a car, they didn't have a car payment.
Now they've either got a scrape up cash or it's
an additional cost to them.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Well, Joshua, I think it's a great column, and I
appreciate you sharing it, But do you feel like we're
moving enough in the right direction. I know that Aurora
after being very complacent, and I had conversations with law
enforcement in other areas about Aurora's complacency, Like if someone
stole a car from their county and it was taken
to Aurora, they just said it was gone forever. Even

(25:43):
Aurora is like, We're not going to let this kind
of go by the wayside anymore. Are we moving in
the right direction enough?

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Do you think I think Aurora is moving in the
right direction. They're the ones where it was found, and
they were very aggressive and finding it and moving once
they saw good once they saw it was there. Denver,
I think, I'm fortunately, is moving in the wrong direction.
And I admit I had mixed feelings about the license
plate reader cameras beforehand. I understand some of the privacy issues,
but it was a license plate reader that identified my car,

(26:12):
and I will tell you that that if Denver now
has a desire to get rid of it, did not
renew the contract at the end of the year. For
those allegedly over privately private, they want to claim it's
over privacy concerns, but doing the debate, it was because
they were concerned that it could be used to tractive
legal aliens and that help Ice in that effort, and
they were quite overt about that. By the way, that's

(26:34):
not that's not something that's intuited. And and so I
think Denver, unfortunately is moving in the wrong direction while
others are moving in the right direction.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Shocking anyway, josh Miashar, thank you for the great column
complete Colorado dot Com. I just put it on the blog.
You guys can read it, and I hope no one
else steals your car.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
All right, have a great day, Joshua, We will be
right back. I'm sixty two, says this text on the
common spirit health tech. And I think the best advice
I could give you is let the people you love
know that you love them. Check follow your doctor's advice
on what health tests you need. Check one thing I
know you already do. Travel while you can't check check check. Oh,
by the way, you guys found out if you didn't know,

(27:15):
I talked about it already on the show. Next Friday,
I will be having hysterecto me. And yesterday I talked
to my doctor and I'm gonna be missing the next
week after that because apparently it's kind of a big
deal grant where I was like, I'm strong, like bull,
I can come back on Monday. And my doctor was like, yeah, no,
you're not gonna want to do that. She's like, day three,
you really are not going to feel good about that.

(27:36):
So just to let you know, this text or asked Mandy,
do you actually use and like the products that you
advertise on the radio? That is a fur If I
say I use it, then I use it for a
couple of reasons. One, I am a person of good character,
and I've never taken money for something I did not
believe in. Not one time in my entire career have

(27:57):
I ever advertised a product I didn't believe in. Too,
the Federal Trade Commission has very strict rules about that stuff.
So even if I was some you know, money grabbing
radio person, and there are money grabbing radio people, there
are money grabbing TV people, can I just anyway, No,
I'm gonna get on. That'll be a tear that I'll
go on another time. But the FTC has rules against

(28:19):
that of saying you use a product that you do
not actually use. So if I say I use it
and I like it, then I use it and I
like it. So that is one hundred percent is Blue
Sky CBD the capsules still working for I have a
serious situation in that one week before surgery, you have
to stop taking everything. Oh yeah, yes, And we went

(28:41):
around She's like, well, do you have any trazodone. I'm like, wait,
so I can take trasidone, but I can't take a CB.
But you know what it is. They don't have enough
research on it, and it's like a four hour surgery
so there's a lot of anesthesia. So I don't want
to do anything to mess with that.

Speaker 8 (28:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Right, that's scary. So I'll let you know on Monday
how I'm doing that. We'll have a conversation about I know,
I know, but yeah, you have to stop taking everything
except my allergy meds. So there you go. Mandy, what
kind of birthday cake are you gonna have tonight? I'm
not gonna have it tonight. I'm making my own birthday
cake because I like my cake better than anybody else's cake.

(29:18):
And it's vanity, yes, but it's so good, like a
super fluffy white cake with a caramel frosting.

Speaker 7 (29:24):
That sounds so it is it is.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
It's oh my god, my mouth's watering right now thinking
about it. It's so good. And it's a Southern thing,
so you can't even get it out here, like it's
not even a thing in Colorado. It is just and
it's super simple and absolutely delicious. And I'll take a
picture of it and I'll put on my social media
over the weekend if you guys want to. It doesn't
it looks it's an unassuming looking cake because it's kind

(29:45):
of like light brown, like a caramel, you know, frosting.
A lot of times those are the best ones. It
is the first time I ever had it. Do you
do you have foods that you distinctly remembered the first
time you had it? Like there are certain things that
I'm like, I am absolutely well and I remember the
first time. It was a friend of mine's grandma's house,
and she made her garamalizing a little bit different in

(30:06):
that she didn't whip it at all, so she just
drizzled it over the cake, so it just dripped down
the sides like this caramel topping just dripped down the
sites and I.

Speaker 9 (30:15):
Put it in my mouth and I was like, oh
my god, I have too so good fle Mignon for
the first time ever in Cleveland at the Ohio University
Conference basketball tournament.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Was there you go the cheesecake. Also, on vacation with
my parents in Florida, I just found out about a
different kind of cheesecake called basque cheesecake, and it doesn't
have a crust, and I'm gonna try it. I don't
need to be making a bunch cheesecake, but I am
making myself a cake this weekend. And I apologize for nothing.
When we get back. Brandy Morinian with the Colorado Veterans

(30:47):
Project is going to join us. They've got a super
fun event coming up next weekend and we'll tell you
all about it.

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Speaker 4 (31:21):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm your host Mandy Conall grit Smith in for Anthony Rodriguez.
And next weekend there is yet another fun event being
put together by the Colorado Veterans Project. And joining me
now bard President of the Colorado Veterans Project, Brandy Morinian,
Welcome back to the show, Brandy.

Speaker 8 (31:42):
Oh thanks, Mandy, thanks so much for having us. We
really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Oh, no problem. Let's start with there are always new
people listening to the show. They may not know what
the Colorado Veterans Project does. What exactly does your organization do?

Speaker 8 (31:56):
Oh? Well, we are a nonprofit. Our mission is to
veterans in the state of Colorado transition from their military
career into their civilian career. So we provide help in entrepreneurship, career,
you know, training for a career in a corporate environment,
aviation skills and certifications. So we provide a lot of

(32:16):
benefits and training. And it's our mission where all veteran board,
all volunteer. We've gone through this process ourselves, so we're
all passionate about it.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
A lot of people don't realize that a lot of
the troubles that soldiers have often start in that transition.
It can be very, very jarring to go from the
structure of the military into the hot mess that is
civilian life. I mean, I mean my husband struggled in
his own way. Found it took him a really long
time to find a boss that he wanted to work

(32:46):
for because you just found everyone to be very unprofessional.
So it's critical that that kind of groundwork that you
guys are laying gets laid properly, so it can make
it a little bit easier to ease back into life.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
Percent Mandy. And like I said, most veterans have gone
down this path, and the translation from the wartime mission
and the high intensity type of lifestyle and that transition
to a corporate life sometimes doesn't translate. And so folks
hiring veterans don't really know what they're getting and veterans

(33:20):
don't know what they're getting into.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
So we provide a lot of.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
That skills and training. I'll be talking to some veterans
this afternoon and helping them with their resume and their
LinkedIn profiles, and so we're just really passionate about helping
veterans find their way. It gives them health benefits and
secures them to provide for their families, and there's just
a whole bunch of positive things that happen if they
can transition to a great career.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
So let's talk about the event, not this weekend, the
following weekend, the Freedom Fest twenty twenty five. What are
we looking at for this day of fun.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
Well, it is our first annual event. It's actually an
honor of cell raating Colorado's one hundred and fiftieth anniversary
as a state. So we're kicking that off with this
Freedom Fest. We start with a couple running events. We've
got a fifteen k rock march, which will tie out
with a food donation to some food banks in the

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local area. We've got a ten k run and a
five k run walk, and so once we're done with
that though, the fun starts. We've got some live music.
Six Million Dollar Band, which is a local eighties ban very.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
Hard in the area.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
So good, I mean, they are so good. I love
this band, I mean, and it's all during the day,
so for us old people, you know, you can go
and you can actually hear this fantastic band. They are
so good and it's like at noon. I mean, that's
the whole thing because it starts in the morning, right,

(34:51):
that's correct.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
Yeah, So registration for the rock starts at seven. Doors
open at seven, The rock starts at seven thirty, and
then we just kicked ksk throughout the morning. Live music
I believe starts at ten. We're going till two. If
you do sign up for the run, it includes admission
to the band. And also we are really happy to

(35:13):
announce that Molten Chorus is going to be our beverage sponsor.
Well have a beer garden hosted by them. The run
will also include a ticket for that. So it's gonna
be a lot of fun. I've already pre ordered great weather,
Oh fantastic, how about that? And we've got vendors coming,
a lot of veteran owned vendors. We've got food trucks.
It's just gonna be a really good time.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
So well, if people don't want to participate in the run,
you can go for thirty bucks and go see the
band and hang out and go to the beer garden
in the middle of the day. I can't tell you
how I overjoyed this makes me. Even though I can't go,
it's gonna be and it's in a beautiful Park. Now,
where are you guys running the where's the actual route?
Because I am very familiar with where this park is

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and it's a really, really pretty part of Parker Salisbury Park.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
It's a perfect venue for this. It's kind of a
flat area, so the run will be fairly easy. It'll
be around that park and so yeah, it'll be right
around that whole area. It's fairly flat over there. It's
a great location, centrally located between Castle Rock, Parker, you know,
all over the Denver metro area. So we're looking for runners.

(36:21):
We want it to be a great event. All proceeds
go to our mission and helping Colorado veterans, so hopefully
folks will come out and join us. We're really looking
forward to having a good time.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Brandy Burdia with the Colorado Veterans Project, first of all,
thank you for helping your fellow veterans, and thanks to
everyone on the board that just does all of this
as a passion project because you're making a difference. I
know you're making a difference, and hopefully you're gonna have
tons of people. I put a link on the blog
today to the website with all the information you can
sign up for the Run. You can sign up, just
buy a ticket to go see the band. Go and

(36:53):
support this worthy endeavor. They do a great job and
it'll be a really fun way with beautiful weather. That's
already been pre ordered by Brandy to go. Yeah, there
you go, Brady, thanks so much for making time for
all right, that's no problem with the Colorado Veterans Project.
They're really looking for runners right through. You a runner.

Speaker 10 (37:12):
No.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
For some reason, the way you zipped over to the microphone,
I thought you were gonna be like, heck, yeah, I
love it. I'm a walker. You're a slender guy, though,
you know you kind of have a runner's build in college.
I hate running me too, you know what I said
the other day, and someone I was with literally gasped
in horror when I said this, and I didn't realize
it was such an unpopular position. I don't like riding

(37:36):
a bicycle me either. I do not enjoy it. I
really believe that it has something to do with the
fact that one of my legs is a good bit
longer than the other one. I think that would probably
make it tough for so every time I get off
a bike, I feel miserable. My back hurts. My hips
are jacked up. And I just said that, and the
person that I was like, oh what, was like, I

(37:57):
just I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
I've tried to get into it, you know, because it's
so popular out here in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Oh and I see videos of mountain biking where people
are hurling down the side of a mountain on these
little tiny trails on a bicycle and I'm like, what,
that doesn't even look fun. Oh, I have a couple
buddies who do that.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
And he had a bachelor party a couple months ago
and he's like, Hey, anyone who wants to do some
mountain biking let me know.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
I'm like, cross me off. Who I'll be there when
you get back kind of thing. I'll be at the
house drinking a beer.

Speaker 10 (38:25):
Now.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Don't get me wrong, I grew up riding bikes. I mean,
and you know when I was a kid, we actually
rode bikes everywhere all the time. That was our mode
of transportation. So don't tell me I just need to
try this bike or that bike. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Not doing it. Don't like it. I'm okay with it. Mandy,
Bless your little pea. Pic in heart. I meant for
AI to do an AI version of Sean Connery and

(38:47):
set up a date. Of course, I know he's dead.
Sat a stay next to when Robin Williams died. By
the way, like more people have died this week, hul
Cocin has died this week. My childhood is taken a hit.
Grant taking a big hit. Yeah, that was a tough one.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
I think he's he We talked about this Nick Ferguson
and I on Broncos Country at night last night, and
he just transcended generations.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
You know, people do not realize or maybe they don't remember,
especially your generation a little bit younger. I know wrestling
was big when you were young. I get it, but
it was not big like it was in the early
nineties when it was just like this juggernaut. And I
was when I was a flight attendant twice. I had
Hull Cogan on a flight once. It was after WrestleMania

(39:32):
and Los Angeles excuse me, Las Vegas, and we were
taking him back to Tampa and he was on it.
Rowdy Roddy Piper was on it, Macho Man Randy Savage
was on it. Gordon Solely was on it on my
flight in first class where I was working Hull Cogan
could not have been nicer. He was generous with his
time to all of the people who stopped him and
wanted to say hello. The one thing I will never

(39:53):
forget though, he goes into the little front bathroom. It
was an L ten eleven, so there's two bathrooms up there.
He goes into the back room, closes the door, locks.
It is in there for a bit. I hear the
door unlock. He opens the door with his elbow, backs
out of the bathroom, turns sideways, goes sideways into the
bathroom so he can wash his hands. Physically large to

(40:17):
turn in the bathroom, to go from facing the toilet
to facing the sink. Pythons and sixty four inch chest.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
We're just too big.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
If I'm honest, I'm a little surprised any of those
guys from that super roided out era or even live
because they were all jat, I mean massive, They were ridiculous.
They just looked they looked like cartoon characters. And you know,
wrestling is you know, scripted. Oh but that doesn't mean
that it doesn't take a huge toll on your back,

(40:47):
especially when you're doing at like three hundred nights a
year like they were back then. Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Hi Mandy, wondering your favorite cruise line. I'm thinking of
a cruise to the Mediterranean. Don't like the night party
scene or massive ships and would appreciate your thoughts. I
gotta tell you, I am celebrity cruise lines for life.

(41:08):
When I have a chance, I will get on a
celebrity ship. And here's why. Even on their big ships,
you never feel crowded. You never feel the other people
on the ship, and the service on celebrity is over
the top. Our trip to Japan, before we left, I've
been on many, many, many celebrity cruise ships and the
ship that we were on is twenty five years old,

(41:29):
which is old for a cruise ship. And I was like,
oh no, what have they let falling off?

Speaker 8 (41:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Nothing? Nothing? And the service on that ship was almost
invasively good. You would think to yourself, man, I'd like
something chocolate right now, and somebody would come around the
corner with a trail, would you like some chocolate? It
was just insane. The service was just impeccable, the food
was amazing. Everything was just absolutely outstanding what.

Speaker 10 (41:58):
What what?

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Great wording? Basively invasively ohefully. Yeah, it's just it's insane.
You feel spoiled. And I love celebrity, and celebrity is
not a party line. My sister hates celebrity because she
wants a piano bar and she wants dancing and she won.
I don't want any of that. I want to be
in bed by nine o'clock after seeing a show so
I can get up early and see wherever we're going
the next day, unless it's a c D in which

(42:21):
case you know, ce days are awesome. But I love celebrity,
absolutely love it. Especially if you're not a party person,
you will enjoy it, trust me, Mandy. When I was
eight years old, I met Whole Cogan. It was at
Logan Airport. I lived in Massachusetts at the time. In
a piece of paper, I wrote down my name, address
and phone number. I told him to come over to

(42:41):
dinner next time he's here. Never heard from him. Ha ha,
that's super cute. I mean, that's super cute, Texter, that
you invited Hull Cogan to your house. Trust me, I
bet he thought that was super cute too, even if
he never called Mandy I don't like riding bikes because
my legs are short, not easy to break. Usually just

(43:01):
have to flee myself off. Yeah, that would discourage me
as well. Mandy, I texted in last week about an
anti had cancer. She passed away yesterday. Sad face. I'm
very sorry to hear that text her. But as one
who believes that this is not the big end, she
is in a better place, I truly believe that, and

(43:21):
I hope her memory brings you great joy. Hi, Mandy,
E bike, Mandy, just try one now, an e bike.
I might, but I really think it's the leg length thing,
you guys. I think I could get behind a knee
bike on flat surfaces like you know what I would
like an ee bike for In California, all the way
down the coastline, for like miles and miles and miles

(43:41):
and miles and miles, they had this giant sidewalk called
the Strand. At least it's called the Strand in Los Angeles.
I think it goes down to San Diego. I would
like to ride the Strand on a knee bike. Or
you know, it would be fun, grant to ride Cherry
Creek Trail on a knee bike. Yes, I agree, and
stop along the way, you know, like, oh, let's go
off cocktails there. Oh, let's go get some lunch there. Oh,
let's dodge some homeless people here, well when we get downtown.

(44:10):
So yeah, modern road bikes are way too high. A
beach cruiser bicycle is quite pleasant. Not for me, Mandy.
Somebody asked if I still run after having hip replacements,
which I can't, but I said, wait, dang it just updated.
But I said, yes, I run out of patients, f's
and money. Yep, yep, yep, Mandy, Happy birthday. Thanks for

(44:36):
the entertaining educational shows and blogs your unique really appreciate it.
Advise your most value advice. Your most valuable asset you
have is not money, it's your time. The best years
of your life are the ones you have right now.
Ron I agree, I agree, Thank you so much, Mandy.
I'm sixty two and have had three major orthopedic surgeries.

(44:57):
I've stayed all my stayed off all my supplements up
to three hour whoops, three hour ankle reconstruction surgery, despite
being told we prefer you not unless an anesthesiologist tells
me they object, then I take them. I'm too paranoid
about that. I just you know what, if I die
because of this, I would be so mad, Like what
a dumb way to die, you know what I mean.

(45:20):
It turned out her supplements inter feared with the anesthesian.
She just refused to stop taking them. I'm good, I'll
keep it there. Let me read a few more of these.
We'll go in a different direction when we get back.
As Emera cruise lines are as amazing. They only operate
four smaller ships. I would like to go on as Amra.
I've watched mighty cruise ships on the Smithsonian Channel. It's

(45:44):
just about cruise ships and going on a cruise, and
we've seen them on that and I'm like, oh, yeah,
I want to do that. Mandy, my husband's grandmother, was
a massive wrestling fan back in the day when it
truly was real. He inherited her autographed book of all
the all the Greats back in the day. Would love
to get it in the hands of somebody or a
museum that would enjoy it. Any ideas. I don't know.

(46:09):
There's got to be a wrestling museum somewhere. Hang on wrestling,
I'm looking it up. Wrestling New Zeu. We have the
Wrestling Hall of Fame in Oklahoma. Is that but that's
actual wrestling or is it?

Speaker 6 (46:23):
You know?

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Oh that's true, yeah, because I mean there's you know,
there's wrestling. The Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum,
located in Wichita, Texas, is a dedicated space for honoring
professional wrestling personalities and it is called the Professional Wrestling
Hall of Fame and Museum. I would reach out to
them because I think that's very very cool, very cool.

(46:47):
Cherry Creek and the Platte are great for e bikes,
says this texter.

Speaker 8 (46:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
I'm just saying, don't love it, but I love that
you guys are trying to help me. Love it, Mandy,
I'd ins directed me several years ago. I'm seventy two,
and yes, you will need at least a week off.
I took three weeks off and was grateful for every day.
Listen to your doctor, remember your limitations and rest limitations.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (47:11):
What are those? I mean, I've seen that word in print,
but I've never really understood the definition of it. And
by the way, guys, I'm going to be working from home,
so really my exertion will be walking down the flights
of stairs to my studio in the basement.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
I was gonna say, like, not that your job is
easy by any means, but it's not as physically straining
as most jobs.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Like I'm not busting rocks, right. You know they're not
going to ask me to go climb a building and
repel down anytime soon. Been there, done that. Mandy lived
in Spain for a few years. That's cheesecake is the
absolute best. Will ruin you for any other I just
saw this recipe and I was like, I am intrigued, Mandy.

(47:52):
After my has directed me, I became an insomniac. Haven't
slept through the night in fourteen years. Still happy I
did it? Keep track of those sleep cells. Oh boy,
I will be taking those sleep sheills again starting next
week after my surgery. I'll have a full report on
what I'm doing. Oh, I didn't take them last night.
Let me check my sleep score, which has regularly been

(48:12):
regularly been in the high eighties, low nineties, still in
eighty three, plenty of deep sleep, Grant. I'm showing Grant
my watches if he can read it from over there,
Please still your system. My watch approves anyway, Mandy yesterday.
Ross had a wrestling historian on as a guest for
your texture with the autograph book regarding memorabilia for the

(48:35):
wrestling Museum. Peter Boyles used to call the ring in
the coliseum for WWF Verne Gagney and all that stuff,
and he would probably have some insight on what to do. Yeah, Texter,
send me an email. I'll reach out to Pete and
see what he's got on that. So there you go, Mandy.
I'm so glad your doc told you to take longer
than two days off for surgery. I followed doctor's orders

(48:55):
and did zero for fourteen days, and my recovery went
very smooth. Or did not do that, and she's still
suffering a year and a half later. All right, I'm
scared straight by the way Chuck was like, oh, we
had I had a doctor's appointment yesterday, some pre surgical
stuff and Chuck went with me. And Chuck's like, yeah,
you're taking the day, You're taking the week off. She
already said, Chuck is speaking of aggressively helpful. The doctor

(49:20):
asked me a couple of weeks ago, when I was
there by myself, She said, well, do you have you
know do you have somebody who can help you out
after the surgery. I'm like, oh, trust me, my husband
is aggressively helpful, and he will be hovering over me
like a moth to a flame for the entire time
I am recovering. God bless him, and I'm lucky.

Speaker 6 (49:37):
To have it.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
When we get back, we've got Representative Gabe Evans coming on.
He is one of the co sponsors of the Dignity Act.
It is the I think, the first salvo into trying
to come to some sort of resolution on the multiple
immigration issues that we have in this country, not the
least of which is all of the millions of people

(49:59):
that walked across the southern border in the last five years.
He has presented a bill that I think is a
great jumping off point and a realistic jumping off point.
And for those of you who are staunch, we have
to you know, no amnesty. This is not amnesty. We'll
talk about why it's not, but more importantly, we can

(50:21):
have a discussion about the political reality of getting some
kind of immigration reform done, because nothing is going to
be perfect, but I think anything that starts with they
have to go home and reapply is a non starter.
For Democrats and for a lot of Republicans. So we're
going to talk to Representative Gave Evans after this. Keep

(50:43):
it on KOA.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
As one.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Representative Gave Evans from Colorado's eighth congressional District is joining
me by phone in between meetings because he's very important.
Representative Evans, first of all, welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (50:57):
I'll always get to be on with you. And I
would say I'm a very very busy would probably be
how I would characterize it.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Well, okay, busy busy man, let's talk. We're jumping right
in because I know I don't have you for that long.
Let's talk about the Dignity Act for a moment. I've
been lurking in some Republican Facebook groups kind of just
gauging the room right to see as people are discussing this,
and you can imagine, as you've probably already seen, you

(51:22):
have two camps. One camp says this is amnesty hard Pass,
never going to happen, and then you have other Republicans
who are saying, look, this is where I am. We
finally got a little modicum of border security. There's never
been a better time in the last twenty five years
when we had decent border security with more money committed
to border security to really work on immigration reform. Obviously,

(51:44):
you're in the second camp. So let's address that amnesty
accusation that is being made.

Speaker 10 (51:49):
Yeah, first and foremost, it's absolutely not amnesty. There's no
past the citizenship in this bill. The end period barnup,
no past the citizenship, and there's no free handouts in
this bill. What did Dignity Act does is it sets
a hard date. That date is before Biden. It's a
December of twenty twenty. Anybody that was in the country
before that date, and you got to meet a whole

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bunch of other criteria. Can't be taking federal benefits. You
have to be willing to pay any back taxes for
anything that you've taken under the table. You have to
pass both a criminal and a security screening. So what
all of these requirements mean is that really the only
people that are even eligible to apply from the get
go are people that Okay, maybe they're in the country illegally,
but they haven't been committing crimes, they haven't been causing problems,

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they haven't been stealing federal welfare dollars. That means they've
been working, and as you said, the immigration system has
been kind of a mess for several decades. I wish
this wasn't the case, but here's some of the numbers.
Forty two percent of the agg labor force in the
United States is illegal. I don't know the percentages for
some of the other big industries, you know, construction, housing,

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things like that, but we know there's a significant percentage
of the labor force in these industries that is here
very illegally. But other than that, they're working hard, they're
supporting American industry, they're building things here in the United States,
and so how do we source this problem out? That's
what the Dignity Act says is if you meet all
of those different requirements, you're working hard, not causing problems,

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willing to pay back taxes, all these other different things
that you have to do, then no amnesty.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
Right off the bat.

Speaker 10 (53:21):
You got to pay a thousand dollar fine in order
to enter into a seven year program. You can call
it a program if we're going to talk in terms
of fine here, you can call it something like probation
something like that. But you enter into a seven year
program where you renew every year.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
So if you're not.

Speaker 10 (53:35):
Meeting these requirements, you start not paying your taxes, you
get in trouble. You're taking money.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
Under the table.

Speaker 10 (53:41):
Guess what you're tossed out, And every year that you
renew in this program, you have to pay another thousand dollars.
This program doesn't cost the American citizens anything. Not only that,
when you enter the program, you agree to have your
wages garnished at a one percent rate, and all of
that money then goes directly to American citizen workforce training.
Others that this bill does national you verify. You verify

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as the federal program by which employers can see if
somebody is legally eligible to work in.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
The United States.

Speaker 10 (54:09):
Right now, it's optional. This bill makes it mandatory. This
bill puts into federal law the self deportation mandates. This
bill says, if you do not have legal status to
work in the United States, you have to self deport
under penalty of federal law. So it really gets the
conversation going about what do we do with the folks

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who are in the United States, have been here for
a while and again are working jobs, supporting American industries
and want to have a path forward, not for citizenship,
but for a work visa that they only get by
renewing every seven years in the seven year program, while
paying a bunch of fees and having all sorts of

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other supervision.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
So that was one of my questions that I wanted
to ask, because how much of this Because I have
not read the bill, I figured this is the jumping
off point. I'll read it when it gets massaged a
little bit more by everybody's input. Does this do anything
about streamlining or updating the legal immigration process? Because I
have a friend whose son in law is going to

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miss the birth of his first child because he can't
get his husband visa worked out so he can come
here from the UK Okay. So the legal immigration system
is an abject failure at this moment. Does this address
any of that or is that a situation for another bill?

Speaker 6 (55:34):
It helps, and it helps in a couple of ways.

Speaker 10 (55:36):
So in the big beautiful bill that we just passed,
we actually have funding for more immigration judges because we
know there's a massive backlog in the immigration system. Where
the Dignity Act comes in is it basically also enshrines
in the law, effectively the remain in Mexico policy to
where if and again this is in federal law. This
is an executive order like what we've seen with the administration.

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This is putting into federal law that if you want
to come to the United States, you want to claim
asylum or anything like that, you have to wait in
another country outside of the United States while that asylum
claim is pending. And so that helps to basically streamline
and give an orderly flow for folks that are claiming
asylum who want to come to the United States. So that,

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in conjunction with the additional funding for more immigration judges
that we had in the Big Beautiful Bill, it really
does impose some reforms in the immigration space so you
don't have these major backlogs, you don't have these mass
influxes whenever you have some humanitarian crisis in another country.
It really does set up rules of the road so
that we can have an orderly immigration system and try

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to clear a lot of this backlog without big influxes
like what we saw under the mismanagement of the previous administration.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Now, I want to talk about the reality on the
ground politically of a bill like this and the possibility
that as I said, I mean, I think right now
is the best time we've had in a very long
time to talk about serious immigration reform, because politically that
has turned into quite the political football in terms of

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I think that was a huge reason that the Democrats
got walloped in the last election cycle is because of
unfedered immigration. So they've got to be paying attention. But
what does the political reality look like. You're going to
lose some Republicans? Are you going to pick up Democrats
with this? Have you found people across the aisle that
are tired of this just being an ongoing political football
and actually want to solve the problem? And are there

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enough of them?

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (57:30):
So I think there's a couple of really important things there. First,
you mentioned the disaster of the last four years and
what the new administration has done and what we've actually
been able to put into federal law through the big
beautiful bill around I mean, forty six billion dollars for
border wall, right, several billion more for border patrol agent
recruiting and retention. So we've put into federal law a

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lot of resources to make sure that the border stays secured.
But as you said, that tends to increase the pressure
to OK, we've stopped the problem at the border, what
do we do with You know, it's over eight million
illegal immigrants are in the United States and working right now,
not just in the United States, but they're part of
the labor force right now, and we have to do

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something with this at some point. So what better time
than right now with the Republican led House, Senate and
presidency that's focused on America First issues, Because if we
punt on this, as you said, the pressure is only
going to build. And if we don't fix it now,
eventually Democrats are going to have some power again in Washington, DC,

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and then they're going to make a complete.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
And total mess of this.

Speaker 10 (58:37):
So I say we need to have the conversation, and
it truly is a conversation. This bill hasn't been a signed, well,
this bill doesn't have a date for a committee hearing yet,
definitely hasn't got a date for the House floor. So
we're still having the conversation about this. This is driving
the conversation. But if we don't have that conversation now
with an American first, Republican led House, Senate and presidency,

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that does mean that the pressure to fix it is
going to go away. That pressure is still there and
it's going to grow and if we don't do it,
THEMS are going to make a mess of this the
next time they have power in DC.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
I agree with that second part. I'm just hoping that
you you know one of my frustrations, and I understand it,
and I'm sure you do too, representative Evans when people say, look,
I don't want anybody to skip ahead in the line,
I don't want anybody to get special treatment that other,
you know, people who've immigrated here legally have not gotten.
I understand that argument, but I'm also tired of I mean,

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it was like what twenty ten when Obama gave status
to the dreamers, and they still are just being They're
flapping in the breeze like they still have no solid
footing here in the United States, and it's absurd that
we haven't been able to make this happen. So I'm
going to be watching this. Do you think this is
a jumping off point for a bigger conversation or do

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you think this bill as it is has a chance
of passing as it is?

Speaker 10 (59:57):
Well, I mean, no piece of legislation in Congress passes
as it is. If you look at the format was
in when it was introduced to when it navigated its
way through the House in the Senate, so I'm sure
it will change. So really both things. Yeah, it's bipartisan.
It's got Republicans and Democrats supporting this, and it's a
broad swath of Republicans. You've got Republicans from very very

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moderate districts. We also have a Freedom Caucus member who's
supporting this bill. And so you have the complete range
of Republicans that are supporting this a piece of legislation
because they know the urgency as you said, that we
have here. And I'm totally sensitive to the argument about
cutting in line. And that's why when you read the bill,

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there's a hard date in the bill that this applies to.
It's not a rolling five year period. It's a hard
date that says this does not apply to anybody that
was immigrated illegally to the United States January of twenty
twenty one or later. So when you couple that, you
know you got to go back five years, and the

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owners is on the individual to prove that this isn't
government resources that are going to go to proving that
the individual has to prove it. And if they can't
prove it, well, then under the self deportation mandate in
the bill get out.

Speaker 8 (01:01:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I do think that if you can get this sorted out,
it will change public sentiment about this going forward, in
my view, because if you say, look, we've reformed the
system that will allow people to come over here and
work if they just want to work, right, we reform that,
we reform the legal immigration system, then the excuse making
gets a lot harder to make, simply because when we

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make it easier for people who want to come here
and take advantage of the American dream to do so
while making sure we're getting the bad actors out. I
think most Americans are behind that.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
Yeah, I mean that it's literally the national motto of
the United States. E plurbasun I'm out of many one.
And so we know that there's a lot of very,
very talented people that come to the United States for
that American dream, and so we want to be able
to get those best, those brightest, those hardware workers, those
people that come here. I mean, look no further than

(01:02:03):
there's a there's a great book about Thomas Nelson Publishers,
which is one of the biggest publishers of bibles in
the in the country. That was that was started by
a Lebanese immigrant who came to the United States and
that was his passion. And so as long as we
are setting a very tough, very rigorous program to be
able to get those hard working, best and brightest people,

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and if you're not one of those, then sorry, there's
not a pathway forward. But if you are one of those,
there is. That is something that helps the United States,
not just internally in terms of our you know, our
economy and workforce and stuff like that. But we got
to remember we're not in a vacuum globally. We've got
major major threats at the international level. You know, entities

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like China that would very much like to pass up
the United States, and you serve our position of global leadership,
and so we need to make sure that we are
maintaining our position as the global leaders against foreign competitors
like China. And so when you're able to get the
best and brightest people from other places that want to
come to the United States, that gives us a leg

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up in making sure that we're able to beat the Chinese.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Representative Gabe Evans, and I so appreciate your time today.
We are out of time on late as a matter
of fact, and I hope we can talk more about
this in the near future.

Speaker 10 (01:03:20):
Always enjoy being on with you, all right, thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
The text line is about seventy five percent, tell me
more representative, Evans kind of like, hmm, you have my
attention in a positive way. And then there's some This
guy said, what wait a minute, can you give me
an example of what you mean when you say hard
right and on this issue, to me is hard right

(01:03:43):
position on immigration is no one gets to stay. Everyone
has to go back to their home country and apply
from their home country to come back in the United States.
And I understand why you feel that way. I get it,
but the political reality is that as a non starter,
you know, wish in one hand, poop in the other,
see which one fills up first. It's kind of where

(01:04:05):
we are right now with this. I want to solve
the problem. And as long as we have strong border security,
more money go into border security, and that piece of
the puzzle is currently okay, then yeah, we can talk
about what to do with these people who've been here
a long time, because it is it is a non
starter to be that rigid, or it's just as much

(01:04:27):
of a non starter on the other side on the
far left side, which is amnesty for everybody who's got
their feet on the ground in here. I mean that's
a non starter as well. We have to start looking
at how to solve these problems in ways that we
can actually get them solved. You know, this is going
to require democratic votes. It's going to require every Republican

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to vote for it. If it even gets a hearing,
we'll see how serious Mike Johnson is about doing something
about immigration, or if everybody wants to keep using it
and the people that are invol and their lives to fundraise.
I think Americans have expressed themselves on this issue enough
that politicians are starting to go, wait, we have to

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do something about this. We have to take care of
this problem. And as long as you are a law
abiding citizen other than the fact that you broke into
the country, if it solves the problem and allows us
to move forward with real border security and less incentive
to try and break into the country to come here
and work, that is as much winning as I feel

(01:05:33):
like we're going to get. So that might be your position,
but it's not politically realistic, and I am far more
pragmatic and practical because my principles being what they are,
I can't afflict them on the rest of the country,
especially if I can't get them my principles through the
legislative process. Don't get me wrong. I want people that

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I believe are of good character and have principles in office.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
I very much so.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
But you also have to be realistic. You also have
to be pragmatic. You also have to say, what can
we realistically do to solve this problem so it does
not continue to go on, doesn't continue to be a
bludgeon from one side or the other, and we can
all move on to different different issues. So that's kind
of where I am, and I'm supporting this effort by

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Representative Gave Evans, and I hope the Republicans in the
eighth Congressional District do not decide to stay home because
that district is important. It's also forty percent Hispanic and
I think the fact that he is just trying to
solve the problem is going to go a long way,

(01:06:44):
hopefully to getting more independence. We'll see Mandy Hardwright deport
them all, hard left open borders exactly. Neither of those
things are going to happen. I mean, they shouldn't. The
open Borders obviously did, but hopefully not again.

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around the sun. I'm fifty six years old. I mean
technically now, I'm not even gonna think that way anyway.
If you have good advice for me as I head

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into you know, the second act of my life. This
birthday's been weird for me, and I don't usually freak
out about birthdays. I'm like, thirty, no big deal, forty
not a problem, fifty okay, fifty six? What how has
that happened?

Speaker 7 (01:08:20):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
I'm like, way too cool to be fifty six? I mean, Grant,
I'm still cool, right, and you better lie if I'm not,
you better say yes, it's my birthday. Thank you, Thank you, Grant.
You've read my mind on what to say there. So
I shared the video of the one hundred and five
year old woman who has changed my perspective where she

(01:08:44):
said about singing, well if I was fifty five, I'd
do it. You got your whole life out of you.
And I was like, yeah, I do one hundred and
five year old lady. Anyway, got a lot of stuff
on the blog that we have not gotten to today,
and some of it's kind of boring, but some of
it's kind of not. And can I start with Tulci

(01:09:05):
Gabbard for a moment watching the left wing media MSNBC,
CNN try to look away from the stuff that Tulci
Gabbert is having and CNN started to air the press
conference on their channel of Tulci Gabbert giving out the
details that I'm going to share with you here in
just a second, and they cut away right as she

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started to get to the meat of the operation, and
you're like, wait, CNN, where are you going? What's happening?
Let me just share some of what Tulci Gabbert had
to say. This is actually about ten minutes long, so
we're not going to do the whole thing, but listen
to some of the information that she has released, and
I swear to you this feels like a big deal.

Speaker 11 (01:09:51):
I'm going to go over the key findings from the
House Intelligence Report, which investigated the claims that were made
by an intelligence community aside ordered by President Obama and
published in January of twenty seventeen. First, Putin's principal interests
relating to the twenty sixteen election were to undermine faith
in the US democratic process, not show any preference of

(01:10:14):
a certain candidate. In fact, this report shows Putin held
back leaking, held back from leaking compromising material on Hillary
Clinton prior to the election, instead planning to release it
after the election to weaken what Moscow.

Speaker 12 (01:10:30):
Viewed as an inevitable Clinton presidency.

Speaker 11 (01:10:33):
In the January twenty seventeen Intelligence Community assessment that President
Obama ordered John Brennan, whose CIA director at the time,
and the Intelligence Community, intentionally suppressed intelligence that showed Putin
was saving the most damaging material that he had in
his possession about Hillary Clinton until after her potential.

Speaker 12 (01:10:54):
And likely victory.

Speaker 11 (01:10:56):
The report goes into great detail about the information that
Russia and Putin had which on Hillary Clinton, which included
possible criminal acts like secret meetings with multiple named US
religious organizations in which State Department officials offered in exchange
for supporting Secretary Clinton's campaign for the presidency, significant increases

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in financing from the State Department.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
I mean, you guys, doesn't that seem like that's kind
of a big deal that Hillary Clinton was offering taxpayer
dollars as a bribe to these organizations for their support.
That seems like it's kind of a big deal. And
if you just asked yourself, Mandy, what if a Republican
had done it, it would be a very big deal.

(01:11:44):
What if Marca Rubios? We find out that Marca Rubio
as Secretary of State, he's gallivant and all over the
world cutting peace deals, trying to do this trying to
do that. We find out that he is doing exactly
what Tulcy Average just said Hillary Clinton did. He is
offering religious organizations NGAs more money. Is they come out
in support of his campaign. I think there would be

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a hue and cry across the land, but I'll letter continue.

Speaker 11 (01:12:10):
They also had documents that showed the patronage of the
State Department to State Department employees who would go and
support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

Speaker 12 (01:12:20):
There were high level DNC emails.

Speaker 11 (01:12:22):
That detailed evidence of Hillary's quote psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled
fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness, and that then Secretary
Clinton was allegedly on a daily regiment of heavy tranquilizers.
Then CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence
and relied on dubious, substandard sources to create a contrived,

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false narrative that putin developed a quote unquote.

Speaker 12 (01:12:48):
Clear preference for Trump.

Speaker 11 (01:12:51):
Brennan and the ICEE misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked
Steele dossier to assess quote unquote Russia's plans and intentions,
falsely suggest that this dossier had intelligence value when he.

Speaker 12 (01:13:03):
Knew that it was discredited.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Now I'm going to stop here, and I want to
tell you a little bit about why I believe her.
Telsey Gabbert is an outsider. She is not a DC insider.
She is definitely on the outside. And there's a lot
of scuttle at being made. Oh, she's just releasing this
because Trump's been critical of her, or maybe she's releasing
it because it's true or at least deserves more discussion.

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So you know, I don't know, Rubio has become a
bad ass text. You're absolutely right, Mandy. That stripe in
her hair looks bad ass. She's one of those women
who has that natural skunk stripe. I've always thought that
was super cool. One of my friends in college had it.
She had dark brown hair except one giant chunk of white,
and I was always like, what happened to your head

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to make that happen. She's like, I don't know, my
dad has it too. No clue I thought she didn't
like it. I was like, no, that's cool, because it's
always gonna be. You're never gonna have roots, right, It's
not like when you die a stripe of anyway. I've
got distracted. She'll continue here in just a moment to

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watch MSNBC, specifically Joe Scarborough. He of the This Joe
Biden is the best Joe Biden I've ever seen. Remember
that crap. I've known him for thirty years. This is
the best Joe Biden we've ever seen. He Joe Scarborough
beclowned himself for the Biden administration. So whatever Joe Scarborough

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says now, I mean, you can just dismiss out of hand.
He has proven himself to be a shill, not that
there was ever any doubt. So when we get back,
I'm gonna play a little more of Tilsea Gabbard and
then what's her name? What's oh, oh, her name just
went out, Abby Phillips. No, it's not Abbie Phillips. It
is Caitlin Collins from CNN. Later on in the press conference,

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is like, yeah, we already went over this, and there
was a release from the Senate they said this. I mean,
they're just they're dismissing it so hard that I have
to give it more credibility. The more they say there's
nothing there, the more I think, yeah, yeah, there is.
We'll play more of this when we get back. We're

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going through a little bit of Director of National Intelligence
Tulsi Gabbard's press conference yesterday. I'm shocked that so many
of you didn't know that the streak in her hair
was natural based on the text message responses, yeah, people
have hair like that. Let me get into this. She
continues to talk about the Obama administration's role in the
Russian collusion hopes.

Speaker 11 (01:15:40):
The intelligence community excluded significant intelligence and ignored or selectively
quoted reliable intelligence that contradicted the Intelligence Community assessment's key
findings on Putin's alleged support for Trump. Including this intelligence
reporting would have exposed the ICA's claim.

Speaker 12 (01:15:59):
As employed, if not ridiculous.

Speaker 11 (01:16:02):
The Intelligence Community assessment omitted reliably sourced information, such as
how some Russian intelligence officials were quote unquote planning for
candidate Hillary Clinton's victory, while others assessed neither Trump nor
Clinton would respect Russia's interests, as was reflected in the
Ode and I documents that we released on Friday, Multiple

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intelligence community assessments released in the months leading up to
the November twenty sixteen election concluded that Russia had neither
the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of the
US election.

Speaker 12 (01:16:35):
On December fifth of.

Speaker 11 (01:16:36):
Twenty sixteen, the FBI and ODIE and I gave the
House Intelligence Committee its first post election classified briefing, in
which there was no mention of Putin aspiring to elect
Trump by either agency. The Presidential Daily Brief, drafted on
December eighth of twenty sixteen, stated that no Russian or
criminal actors impacted vote counts.

Speaker 12 (01:16:58):
This document was pulled.

Speaker 11 (01:17:00):
Just hours before it was to be published due to
quote unquote new guidance. If it had been published, it
would have been briefed to both President Obama and President
elect Donald Trump.

Speaker 12 (01:17:12):
On December ninth, twenty.

Speaker 11 (01:17:13):
Sixteen, a National Security Council meeting was called together President
Obama's senior national security officials, which included CIA Director Brennan
then Obama, dn I, James Clapper.

Speaker 12 (01:17:23):
Susan Rice, and others.

Speaker 11 (01:17:25):
Following that secret meeting, DNI, Clapper's assistant sent an email
to the Intelligence community with the subject line potus tasking
on Russia election medaling, tasking od and I leaders to
create a new assessment per the President's request.

Speaker 12 (01:17:41):
The House Intelligence.

Speaker 11 (01:17:42):
Committee oversite report that we released today reveals that quote
unlike routine intelligence community analysis, the intelligence community assessment was
a high profile product ordered by the President President Obama.
It directed senior intelligence community agency heads and created an
intelligence community assessment limited to just five analysts using one

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principal drafter. This is not something that occurs in the
normal path of producing an intelligence community assessment that reflects
the views across the intelligence community. The production of this
intelligence community assessment was subject to unusual directives directly from
the President and senior political appointees, especially the former Director

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of the CIA, John Brennan.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Now I'm gonna stop her there, because she's getting to
the meat of the operation, and the meat is Obama
oversaw lies that were put into intelligence briefings and then
spread via leaks to the Washington Post in order to
kneecap Donald Trump before he even got into office. And
somebody just asked, is Obama protected under presidential immunity? I

(01:18:54):
don't think any chargers are going to be filed here.
I mean, everybody who lied to Congress can be held accountable.
But will Barack Obama every beheld accountable? Probably not, But
I would love for more information to come out so
we don't have to hear any more crap about how
there were no scandals during the Oblam administration. Really because

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this kind of feels like one. Anyway, we are going
to take a very quick time out then come back.
Last half hour of the show. Chuck is coming in
to Do of the Day. Did you know that you
knew that, Grant? Did he text you? What'd you say?
Chuck is coming into Do of the Day? I haven't
heard from him? Stop it, stop it. You haven't heard

(01:19:38):
from him?

Speaker 10 (01:19:38):
Really?

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Oh no, Grant's face just totally Grant, you must be
a terrible poker player. Is he in there now? No,
there's somebody. Oh he is, I can see him. I
didn't see him come in though. He's snuck in anyway, Okay,
we'll be right back. Did you already eat your cupcake?

Speaker 6 (01:19:55):
Grant?

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
I'm about two thirds of the way through.

Speaker 8 (01:19:58):
So so good.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
There's a big Parker called Posh Pastries. I love them
and they make incredible cakes. But I am a sucker
for their cupcakes.

Speaker 7 (01:20:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, and I the lady and all the
girls she hires him. They're all phenomenal. Talk about customers show.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Yes, they do a great job and their cupcakes are amazing.
I just asked Chuck, I'm like, is there something you
want to talk about on the show? Today, since you're here.

Speaker 7 (01:20:21):
And what did I say? Colorado guy?

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:20:24):
That thing today on the blog.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
Yeah, at the bottom of the blog, someone asked an
AI you know video program, to create a video about
the most Colorado man in the world. And it is
so funny because it is so accurate.

Speaker 7 (01:20:41):
The only thing is a man bun.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Yeah, we did decide he does need a man bun.
I mean you have to agree, Grant, like, just the
man bun would have would have been the kapper best
line in the whole thing. He has his ski pass
icon left, epic right, He's got three roommates. They're all
I pa. He threwed his own beer with nothing but

(01:21:04):
bite needles and vibes. How could I forgotten that? It
is so funny because it's so accurate. I mean, these
old stereotype things are hilarious. That's on the blog today.
But I just I actually wanted to talk to you
about this article from the Wall Street Journal that I
have on the blog today.

Speaker 7 (01:21:23):
She's hitting me with Wall Street Journal stock.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
Goodbye gentle parenting. Hello, f around and find out that's
it and listen to this. Carla Dylon tried lots of
ways to discipline her rambunctious thirteen year old, including making
him write the same contrite sentence one hundred times. But
when he sprayed her with a water gun and a
campground after she told him not to, she saw only

(01:21:45):
one option. She threw him into the pond, clothes and
all nice. Some of the best lessons in life are
the hard ones, she says. What's interesting about this is
that I have seen the positives, as have you. Yes,
in gentle parenting, because our oldest and his wife used
gentle parenting with their boys, and their boys are the sweetest, nicest,

(01:22:10):
rambunctious little balls of energy that you've ever met. And
I see it in practice. But I also wonder what
happens when the boys hit the teen years.

Speaker 7 (01:22:21):
I'm wondering about that too. But I've also seen our
daughter in law, Courtney is amazing. I couldn't have picked
anyone better for my son. And I've also seen her
a couple of times, just like the evil eye from
Courtney scared me and it was like and the boys,
the boys looked at her and they were in an
oh crap, you know, they knew something bad was coming,

(01:22:43):
and they straightened right up. So I think they have
a side of them that like, she doesn't take bs
from anybody. Yeah, you know, she just and I don't
mean that in an aggressive way at all. She just
doesn't have time for it, you know so well.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
The reason I wanted to ask you about this is
because as you have had two sets of children at
this point, right, you had the older kids and then
you had our daughter Q. And by your own admission,
you are a much different father the second time around, much.

Speaker 7 (01:23:13):
Better in my opinion. I hate using the word better
instead of different, but I think I'm a much better
father than I was.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
I hope I think you are, and not that you
were a that dad to the boys, but you're much
calmer now than you.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
Used to be.

Speaker 7 (01:23:29):
That's an understatement, But.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
I do think we're going to see a lot of
people who are raising children that have an expectation that
people care about their feelings. Yeah, and hear me out.
When you become an adult, no one cares about your
feelings at work, like no one cares about that. You
also have to be able to manage and regulate your

(01:23:51):
own emotions without expecting something from someone else To make
that happen.

Speaker 7 (01:23:57):
It's called taking care of yourself and not relying on
anybody else to do what you need to have done
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
I mean, that's just and don't put me wrong. Life
to me when I'm reading this article about FAFO parenting,
it's it's genuinely the same kind of parenting that we
grew up with without spanking. I think we've all moved
on when it comes to spanking in terms of it's
one thing to swat the butt of your toddler to
get their attention. It's another to have a teenager that

(01:24:25):
you're pulling out the belt and using the belt on them.
Those are two very very different things, and I'm glad
that we don't have as much of the first, and
it's not as widely practiced and used. But you know,
the swat on the butt to get a toddler's attention,
I think, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:24:41):
The butt to get the toddler's attention is absolutely fine.
And we're not talking about a smack of the boat.
We're talking about, you know, and I call it an
attention an attention getter. There's and and most kids, you know,
take the queue for a perfect example. She got a
couple of swats on the butt when she didn't think
wrong when she was young.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
But you know what I'm talking. I my parenting style
I have always thought in my mind could be described
a little bit as shock and awe. I am very calm,
very calm, until you push me too far, and then
I will freak out for like twenty seconds, but then
it's over right, but it gets her attention. When she

(01:25:21):
was in preschool, we got a call that she bit
another girl at preschool. Now in her defense, in her defense,
this squirrel is thrown dirt in her face. So I
get it, like I have your back, but that's not
how you respond. And we responded as parents by making
her sit on the stairs which were right by her bedroom,
and we took all of her toys and everything out

(01:25:42):
of her bedroom except her bed.

Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
Yep, except her bed and a pillow and a sheet.

Speaker 8 (01:25:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
So she's four, right, and we take every we purp
walk everything out of her bedroom. And she's just sitting
there with the big lip and the big eyes, and
we just said, you can earn back your stuff. You
have to earn back your stuff. And we did. It
wasn't like we, you know, took a year to give
her all her talk.

Speaker 7 (01:26:01):
You're on the way home, we're like, you know, why
did you do it? At first, I said did you
do it? And she goes, yes, you know she didn't.
There was no denial, which was good. You know, it
wasn't as she went into limo.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Right, you know that. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 7 (01:26:13):
No, no, really, no, that's what I was getting at.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
That we have.

Speaker 7 (01:26:18):
That's like one of the you know, when we moved
into this house, it was a lot bigger than we needed.
But Mandy's mom was living there with us at the time,
and I decided we decided that she'd have her bedroom,
but then she'd also have an art room because she's
very artsy and she's an only child pretty much because
of the age difference. There's eighteen years between them. So
I did that because I kept sending the boys to

(01:26:40):
their room when they would get in trouble and all
their stuffs in their room, so I had to come
up with more sitting attention, which even when I say
that now they shiver. But anyway, so we did that.
I've only sent that girl to her room one time,
and it was like eighteen months ago. When she got married.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
I would come out, yes she has, but literally she's like,
I'm good. I don't need to come out of my
room now, as I hope she's not lessen now she
Are you kidding me? She's not listening. She just thinks
I'm an idiot on the radio. Anyway, this texture says,
ask Chuck if he can get you fifty five spankings
over the radio and celebration of your birthday.

Speaker 8 (01:27:19):
That is a no.

Speaker 7 (01:27:20):
I I think you should block them. That's a little weird. No,
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
Now, are you kidding me? You have obviously not heard
the text lineing sometime? Okay, ask me anything. You can
ask me anything, or ask Chuck anything, or ask Grant anything.
I don't care. Five six six nine. Oh, are you
still going to submit something for the State Fair? Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:27:38):
I am.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Tun Let me tell you it's going to be the
chocolate cake. It's gonna be the chocolate cake, because I
gotta tell you, guys, the chocolate cake that I make
for Chuck's birthday.

Speaker 7 (01:27:48):
Oh, it's incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
It is honestly the best cake I've ever put in
my mouth in my life.

Speaker 7 (01:27:52):
Are we going to call it the ugliest best cake
or the best?

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Last ones have looked pretty good now that I'm using
actual buttermilk instead of powder. Buttermilk.

Speaker 7 (01:27:59):
Yeah, so amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
It's so good.

Speaker 7 (01:28:02):
I don't know anybody who's had that cake who hasn't
wanted you to make it for him.

Speaker 6 (01:28:05):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
And I told everybody earlier I was making my own
cake this week, kind of making the white cat make
a caramel ice. Add it's so so so good, Mandy.
I don't I never don't use your cupcake eating method now.
And I'm a bearded man, and it was an amazing revelation. Okay,
so my cupcake thing is you take the bottom off
the cupcake and you smush it on the top. You
make like a little whoopee pie. Right then you don't

(01:28:27):
get icing all over your face and stuff like that.
I've been doing this for the last I don't know,
twenty five years. My daughter, like three months ago comes
up and goes, oh my god, I saw Anne Hathaway
eat a cupcake on the internet and she breaks off
the bottom half and puts it on the top half
to make like a little sandwich. And I go, like,
your mother's stand in front of you, like one hundred

(01:28:49):
and fifty thousand times. Yeah, thank you very much. I
am not, by the way, I would have liked to
have known this information about ten minutes. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (01:28:57):
I here's a story, here's a funny story. So my
buddy Big Dave back in our hometown. Grand Yeah, Dave
thought it was a great idea, so he went to
do it. But the cupcake shop he went to filled
their cupcake broke the bottom off, it all ran all
the way down.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Yeah, that's a problem.

Speaker 7 (01:29:15):
It was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
Mandy, our youngest used the N word at school. We
got there and on the way home we asked, where
did you hear that word? And he said Grandpa Bruce
in a matter of fact way. And I'm like, yeah,
we've all got those relatives. Is like, look, don't don't
say anything that Grandpa Bruce says. It's bad. It's very
very bad.

Speaker 7 (01:29:33):
Yeah, that's a hard one. We've had to deal with
that before.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
Who said the word?

Speaker 7 (01:29:37):
Oh, not the word nobody ever. No, no, no, no, no, no, sorry.
We've had to deal with grandparents saying things that you
don't repeat.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Yes, yes, yes, we definitely, and you have to explain
to your kids in those situations that it's not okay.
But Grandpa's kind of an idiot in that way. And
refuses to adapt to of times. But it's still not okay.
You got to have those conversations with them, Mandy. I
heard you like local theater. My son is into the

(01:30:08):
Woods Junior this weekend and next to the Parker Schoolhouse,
and I'd be thrilled if you would come. You're biggest fan. Okay.
This weekend is my birthday weekend, and we literally have
plans the entire weekend and next weekend. I am going
to be later anything. See somebody said, hey Mandy to Chuck,

(01:30:28):
make sure Mandy doesn't do too much too soon after
her surgery. Tie her down if you need. You don't
want to set her recovery back days. I've already told
people that you were going to be a hover and
annoyingly aggressively helpful.

Speaker 7 (01:30:41):
I already warned her. Yeah, I was going to be
that way because I've read everything and talked to too
many people about this. She's not moving.

Speaker 8 (01:30:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
This texter said if Hillary had won in twenty sixteen,
this country would be totally different. It really would, and
not in a good way. I mean, I'm kind of
here for stuff that's happening to the Clinton's right now.
They're being subpoented by the House to talk about Jeffrey Epstein.
I wonder how Bill Clinton is going to handle that.
We already know he'll lie to the American people. I
don't know why he wouldn't lie to Congress. Mandy. Are

(01:31:11):
we ever going to hear the Mandy Florida accent recording?

Speaker 6 (01:31:14):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:31:14):
Yes, you will.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
You found it yesterday, you guys, yesterday. He comes in,
he goes gets what I found. And I was like
a bag full of money and he was like, no,
I found your miss o'lesti tape and I'm like, oh,
the look on.

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
Her face was priceless. He told me right then that yeah,
she knows we have to release that eventually. So I'm
going to digitize that and we will get that out
sometime in the near future.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
Maybe I turn it into a fundraiser for something where
I say, look, if I reach this amount of money
and donations, I will play this.

Speaker 7 (01:31:45):
I'm always into a good fundraiser. We need to do
a radiothon at some point, because I missed doing those.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
Radiothons are great, but they're either they're a love hate
for the listener, and I'm not afraid to do something
I know listeners are going to hate because you know what,
everything isn't for everybody, right, but to do the full takeover,
that's that's tough. Mandy. Did you just see the Billy
Joel documentary on HBO Max It's amazing. No, I have not,
but I do want to watch it.

Speaker 7 (01:32:12):
So what you just said? What we were listening to
you Q and I in the car, you announced that
you were having a hysterecto.

Speaker 8 (01:32:19):
Me.

Speaker 7 (01:32:19):
Yeah, And I said, honey, right now, there are probably
about ten thousand men over the age of forty going
I don't want to hear about that. I don't want
to hear about it. She about die.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Well, I mean, it's true, and not everybody wants to
know my medical information. But honestly, like I went back
and forth about that, and I thought, first of all,
I'm going to be out of work, and you know,
God forbid, something does go wrong and I'm out of
work even longer. I don't want you guys to wonder
why I'm out of work. And secondarily, like if talking
about this kind of stuff, you know, give someone else
the wherewithal to go see their doctor if things are

(01:32:52):
going wrong or things are feeling weird or things are
happening that you don't understand, then then you know more
power to it.

Speaker 7 (01:32:59):
It already has already had people say, you know what
you've I'm glad you talked me through this. Yeah, so
it's already helped at least one person. So, you know, Mandy,
not to be too personal, but why do you have
the hiccups so much? I hope your health is okay.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Also always wondered why items like cell phone cables and underwear,
et ceter are comeing zip baggies, but cereal and chips
do not. My working theory on the cereal and chips
thing is they want your chips and cereal to go stale. Yep,
so you'll buy more. I mean it's a pretty simple proposition, agree,
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:33:29):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
I have had a lot of different digestive issues, just
I always have. That was the reason my constant acid
reflux was why I needed vocal cord surgery. So this
has been something I've dealt with my entire life. The
hiccup thing, I don't know because I've always done that.
I've always and they come in little tiny spaces like

(01:33:50):
I don't have them for hours, I have them for
forty five seconds. On the show. Then they'll go away,
and then two hours later I'll have them for forty
five seconds more, and then five hours later we are
outing for thirty seconds more. So I don't have like
you know, it would be horrible to have the hiccups
for like ever, like some of the people that never
stop hiccupping. That would be a nightmare for me.

Speaker 7 (01:34:08):
On the opposite, I've only had hiccups maybe ten times
in my life. Yeah, I can't. I can't deal with that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Yeah, Mandy, quick reminder for people out there to keep
their cool and turn the other cheek. We had an
altercation at a boat ramp the other day. My wife
wrote a check her but couldn't cash, and I got
charged with a salt mutual consent for getting her the
heck out of there. We just recently had a very

(01:34:35):
bizarre experience in our life as well. So people need
to calm the blank down. That's pretty much.

Speaker 7 (01:34:40):
Hey, I should tell him four words that are important
for him to remember right now, for better for worse.

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
Yeah, just randomly say yes on the air, says this textter. Okay,
there you go, there you go, Chuck Roast. Yes, my
hero Chuck Roast. I call him chuckles. Oh wait, you
know what I forgot to talk talk about this entire week.
I forgot to talk about us throwing axes at thrashing
axes on Saturday night.

Speaker 7 (01:35:06):
You save that you knew.

Speaker 8 (01:35:07):
I did not know.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
I forgot about until right now. Hey, Chuck, who won
you did?

Speaker 7 (01:35:13):
By far?

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
I'm just saying, Grant, if we're in a post apocalyptic situation,
you want me on your team. Okay, I think I
also want Chuck on my team too, though, you know what,
after Saturday, I'm saying, you want to pick me first.
Okayall man.

Speaker 7 (01:35:27):
I actually made a post about it, apologizing to my
family and friends, letting them got I started it off.
It was going to sound like I had done something
her if he can, one of my buddies sent me
a message and he goes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
I was on the edge of my seat reading that, Mandy,
when our youngest got sent home from school for saying
something inappropriate on the second day of kindergarten. A day later,
at breakfast, he piped up and said, so, if I
keep talking, I get more summer vacation. That is excellent,
little kid logic? Is our son phil fantastic?

Speaker 8 (01:36:03):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
Now are you ready now, grant you didn't pick like
easy categories too, you're going.

Speaker 7 (01:36:09):
To throw the ax throwing just one line.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
I just wanted to I just wanted to get out there.
I just wanted to point out that when it comes
to throwing acre.

Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
There again, because her philosophy is is she wins, then
she ends.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
No, that's only counts for golf. If I ever get
a hole in one in golf, I will never play again.
So when somebody says, do you play golf? The last
time I played, I got a hole in one.

Speaker 7 (01:36:34):
That's has played darts with me since she won eighteen years,
haven't played darts. That's the reason.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Okay, whatever, it's fine anyway. Now it's time for the
most exciting segment on the radio. It's goine.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
At what is our dad joke of the day. Please,
they've been real groaners this week. Well that's usually what it.
That joke is right, like real growers. Okay, all right,
dad joke for today. Let's see if it's a groner.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
The Lord said to John, come forth, and you shall
receive eternal life. But John came fifth and received a toaster.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
Okay, that's a good mon Nay, when you going to
hell for that grant.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
You're gonna even call Father Mike today for as.

Speaker 7 (01:37:24):
Father Mike text me and told me to say you're
happy birth.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
Well, you can't call me himself. He's too busy, he's
too important, he's probably According to the Guinness World Sorry,
word of the day, Yes, word of the day. Word
of the day today is a noun, now, panacea. A
panacee is a peacemaker, something that that makes it better. Yeah,
everything makes the situation better. My elementary school nun principal

(01:37:49):
sister Anne, her paddle was called the panacea. And I
didn't realize until I was an adult how funny that is?
Do you know what I mean? I was like, there
you go. She also had Yeah. Anyway, According to the
Guinness World Records, who holds the record for Nobody's gonna
know this. Who holds the record for the most hula
hoops spun simultaneously?

Speaker 8 (01:38:11):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
Yeah, okay, he just guessed how many How many huloops
did mirowa Ibrahim?

Speaker 7 (01:38:18):
Sixty four?

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
Great, you want to take a shot. How about two hundred?
Oh my god, one hundred hoops at the same All right,
what is our Jeopardy category. Jeopardy category for today a
model of Ford and so it's going to be a
model of a Ford vehicle and something else. Okay, to

(01:38:41):
slip from confinement, Mandy, what is the escape correct?

Speaker 10 (01:38:46):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:38:50):
The second sign of the zodiac said to be stubborn, Mandy,
what's a Taurus?

Speaker 7 (01:38:55):
Correct? Chuck you ready? I'm here?

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
Okay, forgot that mouth. Do not act like you're gonna
let me win right now.

Speaker 8 (01:39:05):
You better not.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
You're an ass kicking right now and it's going to
be so ugly. You don't ask the questions. I'm just
giving myself the points a thermonuclear reaction. Andy, what's a fusion? Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
Three zero?

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
I don't know my forward cars.

Speaker 7 (01:39:23):
I mean it's a Ford term for.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
A man who accompanies a lady to a formal puppy.
What's an escort?

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
A man in the obvious direction, which is anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Go ahead, something everyone is looking at. It's also the
point where an earthquake starts.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
I mean they don't have a forward epicenter, so something
everyone is looking at, the center of attention. Mandy. What's
a focus correct?

Speaker 10 (01:39:54):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
Zero, I'm sure you let me win.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
I did not let you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
We don't do that in our house. We know we
do not let people win. That's deeply offensive.

Speaker 7 (01:40:07):
Q was probably about seven, and I'm a master tic
tac toer. I think that's one of the greatest strategy
games ever, and if you beat me, you're doing something.
So I was teaching her how to play, and she
finally looks at me one time and she goes, can
you just be a nice daddy and let me win one?

Speaker 4 (01:40:24):
The same kid? That when we really when she really
started to understand how to play. Sorry the game. Sorry,
we're playing. Sorry, she would purposely land on you and
not just land on you and knock you back to home.
She would yell die, well she did. She's like eight
years old, And I was like, well, stop.

Speaker 7 (01:40:39):
And say that, so she would go sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
I mean game playing in our house is a bloodsports,
much like on our of the day. All right, kids,
I'll be back on Monday. I have a great weekend.
Thank you for coming in, and bring me a cupcake
from her birthday baby. Absolutely, all right, back keeping up
Kaoe sports from the training camp today. Oh no, they're
not there here, never mind, but they're going to talk
about training camp because they were all there this morning.
That's coming up next

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