07-28-25 FULL SHOW - Imagine Using Road Money For Roads!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell, Andy Dona, KOA.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 4 (00:29):
All right, you welcome, Welcome, Welcome. I'm your host for
the next three hours, Mandy Connall. I got Grant Smith
today because Anthony Rodriguez is covering Broncos training camp and
doing all of our social media. When you follow us
at KOA, Colorado, you gotta get the inside scoop on
what's going on at training camp if you cannot make
it there yourself. Now, if you just heard the end

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of Ross' show, I'm going to talk about this right now.
But I just talked to a friend of mine, a
former police officer, and he gave me these steps to
go through to.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Remedy the situation.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
So before I light up the Parker Police Department, I'm
going to give them a chance to make it right.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Let me tell you what I'm going.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
What's going on, And we had and I mentioned this
in passing. I mentioned it briefly when it happened. But
I'm gonna be perfectly Honest, I was so freaked out
when it happened that I almost didn't even want to
talk about it. So here's what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
Here.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
What happened, Grant was this, What had happened was what
happened was this. We're driving home from the airport. It's
like ten thirty at night, and Q my daughter was hungry,
and so we're like, okay, we'll stop a mcdonald's'll get
you some nuggets whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
So we're driving home. We get on Parker Road.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
We're going south on Parker Road because we're coming off
four to seventy. We're stopped at a light, and as
we get started again, two guys on loud motorcycles go
blazing past us.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
We're in the left.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Hand lane by the median there in the center lie.
They go blazing past us with loud pipes, and my thought.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Was, look at those a holes.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I literally thought that to myself because they were so obnoxious.
The pipes were so loud and so obnoxious. Well, little
did I know how accurate my statement was, because just
a little bit down the road, we're still in a
left hand lane. We're tootling a long mind in our
own beeswax right so one of the motorcyclists comes over
into our lane. That's fine, he's a good bit ahead

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of us, not a problem, nobody's you know, no harm,
no foul. And then he either stops his motorcycle or
just he didn't slam on the brakes because there was
no brake light, but he basically stops in front of us. Chuck,
in order not to just rear end. The guy whips
into the second lane. Now the guy he's riding with
has kept going, he's kept going in the second lane.
This guy has come to a you know, slowed down

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in the left hand lane. Chuck goes around the motorcycle safely.
And here's the kicker about this whole story. You guys,
My husband rode a motorcycle as his only form of
transportation for years years. He is so respectful of motorcycle riders.
He never crowds them. He always makes sure that he's

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you know, giving him plenty of space. He is one
of those drivers that motorcycle drivers should be grateful for.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
He's the guy looking.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Out for you on two wheels, right, unlike me, who
you know, half the time ind on cea motorcyclist anyway,
that's a story for another moment. So Chuck goes around
the bike safely gets back in the left hand lane.
Here comes the guy who had basically stopped in front
of us, whips around us, stops his bike in front
of us, and gets off his.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Motorcycle and starts walking up to Chuck's store.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Now at this point, motorcycle number two that had kept
going also stops on the right hand side of us.
But when this guy's walking towards Chuck's window, Chuck's like,
I won't tell you what he said, because it's an
FCC violation. He said, blank, this hit the gas, goes
around the first motorcycle in front of us, and in
the process nicks the other motorcycle. And when I say nix,
I mean nick's the tire kind of thing. No major damage,

(04:04):
didn't run over the frame, none of that stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
The guy rode off.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
We know that because as we rode off, guy number one,
who's already gotten off his bike, hops back on his bike.
Now he's chasing us. Now, as you can imagine, this
was all very confusing, very confusing, because we're just mining
our own business, just mining our own beeswax. Going down
the road ten thirty at night coming home from the airport.

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So we then call nine one one. We get transferred
to the PARKERPD. We are talking to the park REPD
as we're driving around and the guy on the motorcycle
is following us. So we drive into the Parker Police
Department parking lot, where there is not a soul to
be seeing. There's like no sign of life at a
Parker police I remember on the phone in nine one one,

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she's like, okay, just stop in the parking lot. We stop,
the guy and the motorcycle stops in the back. Cop
comes out talks to us. We tell him everything that happened,
and I genuinely I was like, I have no idea
why this happened. It was so baffling and honestly really
really scary. So today, on the way of the office,

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I get a copy of the police report and do
you think it says any of that? No, it does not.
They obviously talked to the other guys, didn't ask them
any questions like hey, why did you why did you
come to a complete stop in the middle of Parker Row,
Why did you do that? None of that is in.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
The police report. None of it.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
And to top things off, it doesn't make any physical sense.
The way they wrote it, it makes absolutely no like
physics don't explain how this police report is written. I
didn't realize that you could just leave off another version
of events.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I didn't realize that you.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Could just say to one person, the person who called
nine one one and said, hey, this is a huge problem. Hey,
your version of events doesn't matter. I am livid for
so many reasons. Number one, I don't like it when
people lie. And these guys lied. They absolutely lied, and
instead of asking any questions that would show any intellectual curiosity,

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the policeman just wrote down their version of events. Now
I realized this is a he said, she said, I
get it, or he said he said whatever. I understand
that part of it, I really really do.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
But when the.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Other he said doesn't make any sense. In this report,
it says that in order to go around another motorcycle,
Chuck came into the other lane and clipped the motorcycle.
And it says we were going five miles an hour. Now,
we're on Parker Road at ten thirty at night on Monday.

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Why would we be going five miles an hour when
we hit the other motorcycle unless we were stopped in
the middle of the road by the other bar. It
So I just talked to a friend of mine who
is a law enforcement person, and he gave me a
list of things to do. But this deeply offends me.

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I realize people lie all the time.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
People lie to get out of whatever they did. People
lie because they don't want to have, you know, whatever
their situation is.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
I don't I don't care why you lied.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
But you lied about me, and you lied about something
that happened with me, and that doesn't fly you, guys,
I hope you've listened to this show long enough to
know that I do my absolute best.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
To tell you the truth all the time.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
You know why, because the truth is easy. The truth
is so much easier than a lie, because a lie
you constantly have to remember what did I say, how
did I present that?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
What details do I need to make up?

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Now? The truth is simple. The truth is really really
easy to remember. And if I do get something wrong
that I thought was the truth and then it turns
out not to be the truth, I have apologized more
times on this radio show did I think, probably maybe
any other host in the history of talk radio. Because
talk radio is full of people whose egos are such

(08:14):
that they cannot apologize. I am not one of those people.
So when somebody lies about me and mine.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Can't even.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
I just I can't even. It's infuriating, absolutely, Mandy. You
need a dashcam? Oh yeah, oh yeah, to this point, Mandy,
I keep a nine millimeter in my truck for just
such an occasion, just in case. Except with the likelihood
of having your car broken into or stolen from Denver
International Airport, we never carry a firearm when we go

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to and from the airport. We just don't do it.
I know people who have personally had firearms stolen out
of their vehicles at the airport, two of them specifically,
And I'm just not doing it. I mean, I am
just not doing it. I am super, super, super angry, Mandy.

(09:06):
Were they cruisers like Harley's or were they crowd rockets?
One was a Harley, one was a crowd rocket and
not even a small Crossraul like a pretty big They
were both big size bikes and loud as hell.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Anyway, So that's why I am irrationally angry right now.
And I realize I'm irrationally angry. I just told Chuck
I was like, I don't know if I can talk
about this and not drop an F bomb on the air.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
That's how angry I was.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Anyway, sounds like to me, you did more than likely
cut them off somehow, or at least in their eyes,
you did.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
That took them off pretty bad, did geesh?

Speaker 4 (09:42):
I would love to know. I would love to know
what they think we did. And I'm being so genuine.
I even asked the cop did they tell us why
they stopped in front of the road? Did they tell
us why you did that? And he's like, oh, yeah,
they didn't mention that. Oh okay, I guess I wouldn't
either if I were trying to spin a version of
events that sounded plausible to the police so they could

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just file their dumbass, stupid wrong report and walk away.
So mad, so mad, Mandy, I swear I saw the
same guys also after being out towards Parker coming back
north on I twenty five, I was going eighty and
they blazed past me going probably one hundred miles per
hour about a week ago. Unfortunately, this is just common

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with motorcycles. I just I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
And yes, the dash.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Cam incident, Yes, yes, indeed, but man, I anyway, let's
do the blog grant. Let's move on. Let's move on.
I am physically hot right now. You know they say, boy,
you're really hot under the collar. I am hot under
the collar and I don't even have a collar on. Eh.

(10:54):
Super super mad about this sucking message by Parker P.
Your daughter, who's learning how to correctly handle this situation.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
You know, that was one of the things that.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I told Chuck. I was glad that Q was with
us because she's just starting to drive, and she now
saw like, Okay, when something happens, you drive to the
police station, you call nine one one. This is what
you do. And we did all the right things, and
now I get this garbage police report. Super super super

(11:27):
mad anyway, So that is, uh, that's why I'm mad.
But I'm okay, wait, let's just all together now. Let's
maybe you're having a bad day too. Let's just all together.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Now.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
We're going to ent through the nose, out through the mouth, in,
through the nose, out through the mouth. Let me talk
about something that I don't have on the blog because
I just heard it on the way in. I want
to talk about coach Prime. And then we'll do the blog.
You guys, I am so glad that Dion Sanders came
out to talk about his medical issues. When I decided

(12:01):
to talk about my hysterectomy, which is nothing compared to
all the stuff he's going through, I actually referenced him
in that conversation of like, you know what, I think
sometimes people are afraid to talk about what they're going through.
But in my case, like I'm going to say a
little prayer for Coach Prime that he has continued healing
and that his issues continue to get better and that

(12:21):
he doesn't always have to be uncomfortable with a new bladder.
I mean, there's a lot of things to pray for,
and I'll be praying for him, but I just want
to say hats off to Coach Dion Prime for coming
out and talking about his medical issues, because I'm telling you,
it is going to inspire some guy who maybe has
had some weird things going on that he can't really explain,

(12:43):
but he's been writing him off to this or that
to go ahead and get to the doctor and get
tested and.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Find out what's wrong with him.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Because I think it's very important for people to understand
that when your body has an issue. It's not a
personal failing. Yeah, there are lifestyle diseases that you can,
you know, work on and eat better and exercise to
take care of. But it's not a personal failing. When
your body fails in a certain way, It really really isn't.

(13:15):
So yeah, we are going to have to figure this
out anyway. I will tell you, Mandy, before you get crazy.
Or I'd like to wish you good luck on Friday. Well,
don't wish me good luck on Friday. Wish my surgeon's
good luck on Friday. There you go, There you go, Mandy,
Bell and Pollock.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I don't want to sue anybody. I just want the
record to reflect what actually happened. I don't have any
intention of trying to sue these people. I just wanted
to be on the record as correctly. You know they
always say history is written by the winners. Well, I
guess this is they're the winners here. Okay, let's do

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the blog grant. Let's make that happen. Let's find the
blog by going to Mandy's blot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com.
Look for the headline that says seven twenty eight to
twenty five blog imagine using road money for roads. Click
on that and here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
I didn't be with someone whom office South America all.

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With ships and clipment of sea that's going to press.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
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are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Now,
I got a couple videos on the blog that you
should see, including a very good trailer for Spinal Tap two. Grant,

(15:28):
do you have any movies from your youth that you
have an especially warm, fuzzy feeling for that when they
come on, you will for sure watch them and you
know every word and you've seen them a billion times.

Speaker 8 (15:39):
Anchorman for me at Spinal Tap, turn it up to eleven.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I am going to turn these speakers up to eleven.
And when I heard they were doing a second one,
I am not going to lie when I say I
had a great deal of trepidation, extreme amounts of trepidation.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
And the trailer.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Seems to be very consistent with the vibe of the
first one, So I'm kind of excited. I'm cautiously optimistic
about it now, just cautiously optimistic. We shall see.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
We also have a.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Couple of videos just just random things when a Rod's
not working with me. I don't have as many as
many videos on the blog, but I do have an
excellent show that you should be watching on YouTube. I'm
gonna let you go to the blog and find that out. Now,
I've got a couple guests coming on today. One at
two fifteen, Dustin Devonic is coming on to talk about
two ballot initiatives. And this is so insane to me

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that we have to have a ballot initiative that would
require our legislature to use transportation money on roads. I mean,
you would think that dollar that are being taken out
of us in the form of taxes and fees, you

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would think that those transportation related dollars would then go
to fixing roads and fixing bridges, and God forbid, we
fix some potholes, shall we please? Little just any anyone, anyone?
And yet so much of that money is diverted by
the current administration, by s DOT, by other agencies into

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different sorts of projects that nobody wants. And why don't
they want them? They don't want them because of climate change.
I have come to believe, and I believe this very firmly.
I no longer feel like it's a speculation, because I
can now give you so many pieces of evidence that

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show that this is not a bug. It is a feature.
They are trying to make driving so miserable that you
will beg to get out of your car onto form
of inefficient and time consuming mass transit that no one
is riding right now. So what they're doing is they're like, well,
we built the dang trains. Have you seen, Grant. Have

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you seen the train that goes all the way down
to RidgeGate. No, it has two cars on it. It
looks like the little trolley in mister Rogers neighborhood that
went to the land of make believe. No, there's no need.
There's absolutely no need. Sometimes it's just one car. I
mean you guys.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
So they're like, Okay, we built this damn train, Now.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
We got to get people on it.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
How can we get people.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
In It will make it so miserable to drive that
they will beg to get on the train.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Except it's not working.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
And we just want to be able to drive our
cars from point A to point B in an efficient fashion.
We don't have that. Now. When I get in my
car in my house to drive to let's just say,
to go to a baseball game, that's a great example.
I can drive from my house to the baseball stadium,

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park my car and be walking to the field in
forty five minutes. Do you how long it takes on
the train an hour and twenty How is that going
to be efficient and work for anyone. But instead of going, Okay,
we may have failed here and we need to figure
out a better way to do this, they're like, we
know what we'll do. We'll just make them suffer until

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they take that train. I'm not buying it. Dustin's Devonik
joins us at two fifteen to talk about ballot initiatives
that would require transportation money to actually go for the
transportation that we want, and I'm here for it. We'll
do that, and when we get back, we're going to
talk about Denver's bond proposal. So much of this stuff

(19:45):
seems like stuff this should already be funded in a
regular budget situation. I'll explain after this my blood pressure
which I forgot to put my fitbit back on us,
so I went to check my blood pressure was like, dang,
it is back.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
To normal anyway, calming, We're calming.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
You know.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
It's a very interesting thing happening in Denver right now,
as the mayor is asking Denver Rights to sign on
for another bond project. Now, asking voters for permission to
take on a bond seems so innocuous, right, It's like, oh,
it's a bond and it'll be paid back over years

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with tax seats and everything. And a lot of times
it's made is like, hey, no, big whoop, you know,
we got this. It's going to be great, except you're
still putting the taxpayers on the hook. And if there's
a severe downturn in the economy, that debt still has
to be serviced before everything else happens. So taking on
more debt is not something that we should do lightly.

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We just shouldn't. And I think you have to make
a pretty compelling case if you're asking voters to take
on more debt. Well, Mayor Mike Johnston is proposing a
nine hundred and thirty five million dollar bond package, and
the mayor, and I'm reading from the Denver Gazette, the
mayor argues that it's necessary spending as Denver faces what

(21:11):
he described as a turning point. He wants to use
the money to fund roughly sixty projects, ranging from new
facilities to parks improvements to housing. Now there's a huge
list that you can go and you can inspect. It
was put together by a group I think I'm pretty
sure of volunteers and they were given a list of

(21:34):
I don't even know how many projects that people wanted
to have addressed by this bond, and then they had
to narrow it down because some of these some of
these things are really really expensive. Now, I'm going to
make the argument first that the mayor has not demonstrated
good fiscal responsibility. He has blown through so much money

(22:00):
since he has gotten into office, supporting illegal immigrants, making
sure that they were being shipped to Aurora properly, making
sure that apartments were paid for, and making sure that
everything was given free. He has blown through a ton
of money buying hotels for homeless people where now children
are falling out of windows and people are dying of
overdoses on a regular basis. So I'm just going to

(22:22):
say it, I don't think the mayor has demonstrated good
fiscal responsibility. And if the City of Denver is facing
a two hundred and fifty million dollar downturn so much
so that they are laying off employees, now, don't get
me wrong, government has bloated. There are definitely ways that
you can cut the number of employees at the city
to save money. But the reality is is that I

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don't trust him to spend the money the right way.
I just don't. I don't trust this city council to
make good fiscal decisions. And by the way, the city
council not happy about this life, not one bit, not
even a little bit. The list for the mayor's one
billion dollar bond proposal as it stounds now, consists of

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fifty nine projects categorized into five distinct groups as envisioned
by the city. Nearly half of the bond funding forty
six percent, will go to transportation and mobility projects, including streets, bridges,
and improvements to traffic and pedestrian safety. About twenty five
percent of the funds will be allocated towards improvements at

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city facilities, including libraries, community centers, the animal shelter, and
other locations. Additionally, capital maintenance support will be provided for
popular places such as Red Rocks, the Botanic Gardens, Denver Zoo,
Conservation Alliance, and the Denver Art Museum. You guys, why
why do we not have a capital fund for each

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of these different places that is robust enough to meet
their capital needs. I have a question for you. You
go to a lot of concerts at Red Rocks.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Can you answer this question for me?

Speaker 4 (24:05):
If you are a ticket buyer and Red Rocks said, Hi, Grant,
we know you're going to buy a ticket here. We
want to charge you an extra two dollars on your ticket,
and we are going to take that money and we
are going to use it solely to maintain and make
sure that your experience at Red Rocks is absolutely phenomenal.
Would you buy the ticket in a heart ns Denver
botanic gardens? Would you buy the ticket? Of course you

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would buy the ticket. Like, why are we asking the
taxpayers to sign off on this giant bond issue for
capital maintenance projects?

Speaker 5 (24:37):
That doesn't even make any sense to me?

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Why are we asking voters for more money for roads
and transportation? And by the way, the last few times
that voters have been asked to do something to tax themselves,
to raise a fee, to raise a tax so they
could provide for better roadways, that money has been diverted.
So why in the world will we believe that forty
percent of this is going to go to these projects.

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I don't believe them. I don't now. Denver loves to
vote it self at tax increase. They've done this over
and over and over and over and over again. I
don't live in Denver, so I don't number one, pay
the taxes, and I number two don't have to worry
about the bond payments to pay them back because I'm
not a Denver resident. But at what point do.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
Denver residents have enough?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
I would say this seems like a pretty big swing
at the same time that the government is telling us
that they're so short funds that they have to lay
people off to make up a two hundred and fifty
million dollars shortfall. And you're gonna ask for a big
old pile of money right now when people are still
dealing with the inflation that is again twenty percent higher

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in Colorado than anywhere else. Don't forget that. I wonder
if this is going to pass. It's not popular with
the city council. The city council says that the needs
that were identified are not consistent with the needs that
they're you know, their people, their constituents have said, are
the biggest priority. So what are we doing here? I

(26:08):
do feel sorry for the group that was tasked with
coming up with this list. Talk about the most thankless,
just absolutely thankless job of trying to sort through this
and figure out exactly who is going to benefit and
who is not fifty nine projects doesn't seem like that

(26:31):
many in all honesty, for almost a billion dollars in
spending and loans.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
I'd love to hear what you Denver rights here.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Now, I know that we're speaking to a more conservative audience,
less likely to vote to raise their own taxes. Mandy,
does the Denver mayor have financial ties to these companies
that are building homes for the bums and the drug addicts?
Nobody did have ties to the company that they bought
one of the hotels from at a tidy profit.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
I mean, draw your own conclusions there, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Look up SCFD. It's a metro tech district that funds
the Zoo, Denver Museum of Natural History, Art Museum, etc.
The city is scamming us. Scamming is a strong word,
but what I would say is, I think it's a
valid question to say.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Where are those dollars going? How are they being spent?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Now?

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I can imagine that maintaining a facility like the Denver
Natural History Museum or Red Rocks even, or any of
these other sort of city gems that we have, there's
probably a.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Lot going on there.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I can only imagine about Denver Botanic.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
Gardens you know, but.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Why are we asking for more money for these things
unless it is just to say, oh, this bond issue
is so we can take care of red rocks. This
bond issue is just so.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
We can take care of the Denver Botanic gardens.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
It's kind of like when they have to cut something,
they always are like, we're gonna have to cut police
and teachers. There's no other way, no other way. It's
to create an emotional pull, so you're more tempted to
vote for this.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
This texter said Mandy.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Leftist voters are incredibly easy to manipulate, so yeah, they'll
vote for it. And again, what I just said about
we've got to save red rocks, We've got to save
the potetic guidance. You're gonna see a lot of that.
This texture is my spirit animal, Mandy. I live in Denver,
and I'm not voting for the bond.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Enough is enough? Amen to that? Amen to that.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
This text says exactly what I'm thinking and said earlier,
like any business add in the costs of the market
will bear for your own maintenance or improvements. Great idea.
Perhaps someone should talk to the mayor about it. The
subject line Shootings says Mandy any comments on the four
people shot in Lo Doo Saturday night. I don't want

(28:55):
to seem flippant, but if I had comments every time
someone got shot in Denver, we wouldn't talk about anything else.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
It's sad but true.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Great.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Do you ever go to Loto anymore? I know you're
older now and more mature.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
I went there, well, usually only for Rockies games, but
I went there for a friend's birthday party a couple
of weeks ago at some country bar.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Was it Dirk spent Ley's.

Speaker 8 (29:20):
No, it was called Bells and Booth.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
That's used to be Dirk spent Ley's Whiskey Road. Now
it's whatever. It'sn't that same big space on the corner
right like right on is that on Blake?

Speaker 8 (29:30):
Yeah, it's like right beside the Summit Music Hall.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah it's a big it's a big bar. Yeah, I
just changed names, same thing. But yes, I was downtown
for that.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
And how was the vibe?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
The line? The last couple of times we've gone down
to Grand Empty. Actually I'm not out after ten thirty,
Like that's not a thing that happens.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
We were out to about midnight that night, and I
was the latest i'd been out downtown in a long time.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, well, I you know, A Rod calls it brodo
and and that's why he doesn't go there. He's like,
I don't want to be around the people that hang
out there. But after a baseball game, it's kind of fun,
especially if.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
You're going over to the district.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
You know where you're going. Yeah, that's super fun. So
there is steff to do down there. But these shootings
were at twentieth and Market, so they were right by
the stadium and no one died. But I'm not sure
what texture you were asking about, like, oh, more people
got shot. Oh okay. I don't mean to seem flippant,

(30:31):
but unless I'm the one getting shot, I don't know
if there's anything else I can do about it, right,
I mean, I was confused by that question. Did you
want me to say it was a terrible thing. Of course,
it's a terrible thing when people get shot. It's a
terrible thing. We can all agree on that. But it's
just so common now, that's the problem. It's just so

(31:00):
you know, it's the same every single time. It's the
same guys get out, they decide they're going.

Speaker 7 (31:10):
To be cool.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
There's a fight, something happens, somebody uh draws a gun
because nobody knows how to fight anymore.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Apparently. I remember the good old days, Grant, when.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
You could be at a party in college and all
of a sudden fisticuffs broke out. The fight lasted approximately
twenty seven seconds. Someone's shirt got ripped, and then the
guys were like, Okay, man, we're cool, We're cool. I mean,
that's how it used to believe.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
That exactly, that's what was when you were in college.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Although I do know someone who was in a large party,
like a big keg party in an apartment complex with
hundreds of people. Fight breaks out, dude throws one punch
and kills a guy ended up going to jail for
two and a half years for manslaughter. It was it
personally devastated him, not because he went to jail, but
because he killed someone. He didn't really ever get over that.

(32:01):
But with a gun, your chances of accidentally killing someone
are far better than they are with just one punch.
But I mean, the good news is, I guess is
that we have a story on the blog today and
I'll get into this in the next hour. We're going
to talk to Rich Guggenheim here in just a few minuttes,
my favorite favorite Homo Rich Guggenheim. I only call him

(32:23):
that because this Twitter handle is fifty two eighty based homo.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
So I feel like it's okay.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
His new book that he's self published, you can buy
it on Amazon is outstanding, and we're going to talk
to him next but later on in the next hour,
I do want to talk about the correlation. Now, correlation
is not causation. I want to be clear about that.
Where I know that you know that. But the correlation
between immigration enforcement and a dramatic drop in crime, wherever

(32:53):
it's tried.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
It's getting much harder.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
For the Democrats to argue that doing immigration enforcement is
a bad idea as people immediately begin to see a
positive change. Again, maybe it's not because of that, but
it's happening at the exact same time. So it's gonna
be an interesting thing to try and figure out how
to argue against that. Did anybody else see the polling

(33:18):
data about Democrats over the over the weekend? They're almost
as unpopular as Congress right now, Holy macaroni, and I
thought Republicans were unpopular. I should find those numbers we'll
get into them tomorrow. But when we get back, we're
gonna talk to Boche Gugenheim about his new book, Escaping.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
The Rainbow Plantation. We'll do that next.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
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Speaker 4 (34:07):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connell. That guy over there, he's
Grant Smith in for a Rod who has been doing
a great job at Broncos training camp. Now, if you're
a regular listener to the show, you have definitely heard
my next guest before. He's one of my most popular guests.
I always get great feedback when Rich Gugenheim is on

(34:27):
the show, and today I want to introduce him as such.
Hey everyone, welcome published author Rich Gugenheim to the program.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Hey, Rich, how you doing.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
Mandy, It's good to be wave you again.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
So have you gotten some like elbow patches for your
blazer yet now that you're a published and maybe a
pipe so you can sit and puff on your pipe
with your jacket with your elbow patches.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Now that you're a published author.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
I guess I just need to get one of those
badges from the Scouts something I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Well, let's talk about the book. It is a book
that it came about because for the last what how
many years now have you been doing this?

Speaker 7 (35:06):
About two years?

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Two years of fighting for rational biological fact.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
That's what you've been up to. Is that fair?

Speaker 7 (35:15):
I would say that speaking the truth? Yeah, for the truth.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
And you were on this program when you made a
comment about gays escaping the rainbow plantation whether all they're
picking glitter? And now that is the title of your book,
Escaping the Rainbow Plantation. Tell my listeners about your book.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
Yeah, it started out with that media hit done by
some people, some transactivists, and so he had it to
steal their thunder and actually dedicated the book to the
author of that article.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
That did that.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
And The Rainbow Plantation is a book almost three hundred pages.
I can't believe I wrote that much. And it talks
about how gender ideology has captured an hijacked the LGB movement.
The LGB movement was the right for it was a
fight for freedom and liberation and what we've seen today

(36:09):
with the hijacking by the TQIA plus is undermining what
I call the family, the bedrock and the foundation of society.
And I have made that statement before that this ideology,
this gender ideology, isn't about anything other than ending civilization.

(36:29):
And people think that's a little bit far petched. So
I decided to take that and end this book. I
talk about how gender ideology undermines the foundation of society,
the family, but also how it attacks the five pillars
of society, and those five pillars of society are science, academia, media, medicine,

(36:55):
and government. Now and then I talked to one chapters
the pecifically because a lot of people want to paint
this as a far right agenda or a far eye
talking point, and it's not. I talk about the Mahmoud
case that was brought by Muslims, and how I talk
about a majority of the people that are fighting against
it happened to be liberal ideologists, people that identified as

(37:19):
lifelong Democrats. And I also talk about how a lot
of the people that are fighting against this the polling
and I bring in the polling number. In one chapter,
I talk directly to the Democrats and I say when
a majority of you oppose this, but you have a
fringe minority that is well funded speaking on your behalf,
you have an obligation to speak up and make your

(37:41):
voice heart and don't let them silence you. This is
about speaking truth and it is about liberty, because these
are not libertarious forces at play here.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Well, you know, one of the most interesting things that
you specifically address the Democrats, because I just saw this
the other day from the Wall Street Journal. The Democrats'
approval numbers right now are about thirty three percent. Thirty
three percent. Donald Trump is more popular than the Democratic
Party right now, according to the latest polling data. And

(38:14):
to your point that you just made, I think that
until they sort of stop allowing these fringed organizations to
attach themselves on like little barnacles, and then they just
give them the microphone to show. In my view, I
think that Democrats are very wetted to this notion of
demonstrating how how thoughtful and how open and how you know,

(38:40):
they don't judge and they don't do anything unless you're
a conservative wunch case. They do all of those things,
but they're so wedded to the virtue signaling on these
issues that they have allowed themselves to be taken over
by those virtue signalers, and I think that's going to
be a huge problem that they've got to sort out.
So I think it's interesting that you're directing this directly
to them.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Have you gotten any we oh.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Go ahead.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
We have to speak truth, right, and part of that
is speaking. I believe he's gone as far as we
can with a Republican on moving the needle on this issue.
And one of the things I will say, you brought
that up. The Democrats love to talk about love, larance, acceptance, conclusion,
but anybody, and it's not just conservatives, anybody who does

(39:24):
not align with their ideology and their agenda is branded
and attacked. And they do that because they want to
bully them into silence. And that's what all of this
is about.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
This gas lighting is a.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
Form of emotional manipulation, and emotional manipulation is bullying. And
it's time that we just speak truth to this and
it's time to call it out. And I share a
story in this book about Fred Sergeant and Fred Sargeant
was one of the organizers of the Christopher Street Liberation
Day in that march that grew out of Stonewall and

(39:56):
I talk about how he went to a Pride event
in New Hampshire and was carrying a sign that said
woman faith blackface with slashes through them and he was
assaulted by Transwright's activists. But to add insult to injury,
then the lgb mainstream media decided to publish stories about
it and call him law Literally, one of the founders

(40:19):
of gay rights movement was assaulted and then belittled and
attacked and told he was wrong by the LGBTQ establishment.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
That's so I mean, I don't get me right, I'm
going to say that's so funny.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
It's not funny, haha.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
But it's like, here's one of It's kind of like
the way that people attack Washington for, you know, his foibles,
and it undermines the fact that he's the father of
the country, right. I mean, that's it's very similar to
that that once you and let's be real, the ideology
that that man that you're speaking of holds did not change,

(40:54):
but the ideology shifted dramatically to the left, and he
was left behind.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
I mean, isn't that kind of what happened?

Speaker 7 (41:03):
Well, it's eating it's a snake eating its tail. And
this really goes back to the other thing that I
talk about with one. I talked about media and big tech.
Big tech and media are all playing into this, and
they're suppressing certain narratives and advancing others, and so they
love to advance this gender ideology, and then anybody who's
gender critical or doesn't advance their ideology, they're silenced, their deplatforms,

(41:26):
they're demonetized. And that's something that I'm actually experiencing right
now with a very book on x which is supposedly,
according to Elon Musk, the free speech platform.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
But my posts are constantly getting I have over three
thousand followers and my posts about this book are reaching ten.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Well, I want to see what happened to my post
about it because I did a post today. Oh no,
my post about it has gotten seven hundred and eighty
seven posts.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Wait, hang on one second.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
I've got a few because what I did was I
did a post and about the book, and then in
the comments, I put a link to the book. That
seems to be the only way to get around that
kind of schoolduggery. Buy social media platforms, and it works
better than you would think. So I did a post
with a link in the comments to where people can
buy your book. And I bought it today, Rich because

(42:18):
not only do I like you and I can't wait
to read it because I guarantee it's funny, but I
also want to support the voices who are the ones
saying the truth that they need to be supported. And
I think it would be absolutely amazing if your book's
shot up to the number one book in LGBTQ books today.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Right, I mean, like force people to pay.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Attention to Yeah, I mean, but force.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
People to pay attention.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
What's crazy about this too, is when you look at
the different platforms and you look at the voices that
are being silenced, and then you look at the big
money behind it. And I talk about this also, the
money like the Pritzkers, and I talk about the money.
This is what I term and I coin the gender
industrial complex. And I think that this is what is

(43:05):
so hard about going up against this complex, the money
and the power that's behind it, and a lot of
people feel intimidated by it. And that's why I really
say in this book, we have to speak truth because
of what is at stake. It's our families, it's our children,
it's their futures. It's their innocence, it's their freedom to
grow up and live happy, healthy, productive lives.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Well, one of the things Rich that I think is
interesting about the way we started this conversation is that
you believe they're going after the foundation of society. And
one of the reasons that I wanted and I've always
supported gay marriage, is because so many of my gay
friends just wanted to be able to have their families,
whether that was just them and their spouse, or it

(43:48):
was them and children, maybe they brought in children from
a prior relationship, but they just wanted to be able
to have a family unit. So I do think it's
interesting that you think this is a bigger attack on
the family only foundations, when for a long time people
on the right accused gay people of attacking those family foundations.
And I would always make the argument, no, they just

(44:09):
want to be able to have a family like we do.
So can you expand on that just a little bit.

Speaker 7 (44:15):
Sure, When we were at the Capital for the hearing
on thirteen twelve, there are several of us who were
gay parents. We had two dads, they had two moms,
and there are several of us there who are signed
up to speak and testify against that bill because even
as gay parents at same sex parents, we have children

(44:36):
and we have families, and we don't want to see
our children growing up, going to school and having them
taught things are exposed to things that we don't agree
or consent to. That's one of the biggest things is
they're robbing us and they're stealing away and consent. We
don't want our children being indoctrinated and groomed to go
down this pathway of medicalization that leads to irreversible harm

(44:59):
without our knowledge to consent his parents. So that's a
big piece of it. And I think when we saw
something that again I addressed in the book, not just
speaking to democrats, but it's dividing the democrats, and it's
forming new partnerships that ten years ago no one would
have ever seen. And I remember on thirteen twelve, I
was standing outside the Supreme Court chamber and the President

(45:22):
of the Senate walked by and there were two gay
people with one couple with their children, myself and two
people from Focus on the Family. And I stopped him
and I said, I want you to look at this
moment right here in history. You have gay people who
are sitting and aligning with focus on the family on
an issue. I said, I don't think there was ever

(45:44):
a moment in my life up until now where I
thought that would be happened, that would be reality.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Exactly what did? He says?

Speaker 7 (45:52):
He's just like, well, I disagree with your stamp on it.
And I said, that's that's perfectly fine. That's your choice.
I said that, you know, the reality is the things
that I'm hearing from the Democrats while I'm in the
Capitol today are the exact same theme that I heard
from the Republicans when I was fighting for civil unions
and same sex marriage twenty years ago.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
Golly, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
That's amazing. The book by Rich Guggenheim is called Escaping
the Rainbow Plantation, And Rich, you know, who do you
really want to read this book?

Speaker 9 (46:20):
Like?

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Who is the Who? If you could place it into
the hands of certain people and basically force them clockwork
orange style with toothpicks in their eyes to read this book.
Who would you love to see pick up this book
and read it just to find out if maybe they
would have a better understanding of your position. Oh?

Speaker 7 (46:40):
Man, I would love for the people like the people
at One Colorado and the people at the Southern Poverty
Law Center and the people at a Human Rights Campaign
to read this because they are not speaking for us.
And I actually there's a lie in this book. For
those of you who want to go on an Easter
egg hunt, I call out the Human Rights Campaign. I said,
an organization that on stood for freedom and liberty is

(47:02):
now represents the brand for slave on the Rainbow Plantation.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
I don't know if the right people are going to
read it.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
That would be.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
Sad because I know the audience is going to be there, right.
The audience is going to be more of the conservative
people that are opposed to gender ideology. And that's fine
because I also want them There's so many people that agree,
but they're afraid to speak out. I want them to
know that they're not alone, and I want them to
find the truth, and I want them to find the
resources to be able to articulate their feelings and their

(47:37):
thoughts in a way so that they can't have those
conversations right.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
And I would love that as well, because I think
what it comes down to for you know what, I'm
tired of rich and this is really infuriating for me,
I actually know, I take that back. It's not infuriating
because I've just had so many accusations like this hurled
at me over it doesn't bother me anymore.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
It kind of rolls off my back. But it's just stupid.
Is that I'm.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Told that I am trans phobic, I am homophobic if
I don't support the medicalization of children, and in my mind,
not supporting the medicalization of children that studies have shown
most of them are just going to be gay. I
feel like I'm a better advocate for the gay community

(48:19):
than people who are rushing to get hormones and puberty
blockers for little children.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
Yeah, and I talk about that also, and I think
one of the things that I would say along those
lines is when we start having those conversations, I think
the time is going to come down the road where
a lot of the transitioners and the people who have
been harmed by the gender industrial complets are going to
start speaking out. And when they speak out, the LGBTQ

(48:46):
plus community is going to excommunicate them and treat them
like they are apost states, and they're going to find
themselves without a community and without friends and without a
support network. And it is up to us as a
society to welcome them back and show them compassionate love,
because they're going to have not only the physical trauma,
but they're going to have the emotional trauma as well.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Exactly exactly, Rich hug and I am the book. I
cannot wait to get it. I ordered it. It will
be here July thirty first, not just because I'm interested
in the topic, because I really want this book to
be successful and perhaps force some people who are not
even where these conversations are taking place to finally take notice,
and hopefully the book will be a massive success. I

(49:30):
put a link on the blog today so people can
just go to the.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Blog and go over to Amazon and buy the.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Book, just to support Rich what he's doing get the
message out. I would love it if you guys would
do it. If you're a reader, you can even get
it on your kindle for free. How does that work
for an author?

Speaker 7 (49:45):
For you, Rich, Well, I don't get anything for the
kindle for free. So I decided to do that just
to kind of help get it out there. I want
people to have this knowledge. I want people to have
this truth, and that's why I decided to do it.
For free as a kindle, So if you have that,
please download it. And if you love it and you
like what it has to say, I invite you to

(50:06):
share the link with other people, or even buy the
book and share it with a book and just don't
be afraid. Once you read this book and you understand
the points and it's well cited. Every single chapter has citations,
so it's all backed by fact. It's not just hyperbole
and me meeking stuff up. Share that information with people.
That's what I want.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
That's all you can ask for.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
Rich.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
It's good to talk to you again, my friend, and
I hope that lots of people buy.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
The book today. Thank you all right, people, talk to
you later.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
Man.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
That's Rich Guggenheim.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
His book Escaping the Rainbow Plantation is out now on Amazon,
and as I said, I ordered my copy today. I
really would like people to get the information out there
because I think it's incredibly important. Now, somebody just asked
a question, Mandy, should we talk about the Walmart stabbing

(51:01):
where the three Marines and the gentleman with a concealed
carry disarmed the bad guy and held him for police.
I almost put that on the blog today, but Honestly,
that's like a far away story.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
It didn't happen here.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
But if you did not hear about this story, guy
comes into Walmart in Traverse City, Michigan with a knife
and just start stabbing people and obviously we need to
ban more guns in Michigan because he's just stabbing people.
And a bunch of citizens basically were like, no, this
isn't a thing that's going to happen, and they stood

(51:31):
up to the guy, and this African American.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
Guy basically pulled his legally owned.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Firearm and drew down on the guy and said, you're
gonna do what we're gonna say, and he did so
they caught the guy and oh, I don't see your
post about rich Coubenham's book on Facebook that was on
Twitter that I did that.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
By the way, sorry about that.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
But they stopped the guy and now he's under arrest
and he's gonna face charges. And that is my preference
when it comes to these situations. It's always disappointing to
me when a mass murderer is killed, not because they
don't deserve to die, it's not it at all, But
then we lose any opportunity to drill down and find

(52:12):
out what actually happened and what made them get to
a point where they thought stabbing a bunch of people
in a Walmart was going to make their life a
better place to be. I just don't I'm disappointed, even
though I mean for the taxpayers, it's always nice. I
know you guys didn't hear about this story, and I
was going to wait until the funeral of one of
the officers to talk about it. But in Lorain, Ohio,

(52:37):
last week, two police officers were sitting in their individual cars.
They had pulled down to the end of a road,
kind of a dead end area, and one was sitting
in his car and the other one was sitting in
his car, and they were having lunch.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
They were kind of hanging out.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
They were each in their individual automobiles and they were
just having lunch. They were on their lunch break and
they were sitting in their cars and they were having lunch,
and they were ambushed by a man who just shot them,
and another police officer responded to the scene he was
also shot. One of the officer's names was Phil Wagner,
and Phil was a cousin of my husband's and he

(53:16):
has since passed away. And they don't know the motive,
because Phil did manage to get a shot off and
killed his attacker. But a lot of speculation because this
was a clear ambush. They do not believe that it
was anything other than an ambush, and that this guy
seemed to know that this was a regular space for
these cops to stop and have lunch and everything. But

(53:38):
you know what, Phil Wagner is the cops name who
has passed away. He served in the military. First, he
did multiple tours of duty and combat zones, and he
wasn't done serving the people and serving the community. He
came home and signed up to be a police officer.
He was a dad, he was a husband, he was

(53:59):
a son though his father just passed away fairly recently.
And he was a good person. And the fact that
two cops get ambushed in Lorain, Ohio, it didn't even
make the national news. Think about that for a second.
That's where we are, and it's just really really sad.

(54:22):
Let's do some of that interesting stuff, shall we so?
Number when Denver was gonna was telling us how they
were gonna jack up their minimum wage, and people like
me and other people who understand basic economics had the
nerve to say things like you all are gonna kill
the restaurant industry in Denver, and we were delle We
were just ridiculous. And I had people literally say to me, look,

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if they can't afford it, they can just raise their prices.
Guess what when you raise your prices too high, people
stop going to your restaurant. A couple of things have
happened right now. Number One, people's habits have changed. The
younger generation. Can we just have a minute on gen
Z for just a moment?

Speaker 5 (55:05):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (55:06):
As a millennial grant, this is where you get to
be smug, right, Okay, so put your smug face on
the grants in for a rod today.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
Gen Z does not know how to have a good time.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
No, they certainly they have no. And don't get me wrong,
I don't think you need to go out and get
wasted to have a good time. But because they don't
go out at all, bars and bars are going to
close up. They simply don't have enough of a customer base. Because,
let's be real, guys, bars are kept open by young people.
They're not kept open by the four old guys who
show up at four o'clock every afternoon to have their

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dollar fifty beers for four hours and then go home.
Those guys are not keeping the bar open. It's the
young people who come in on Thursday, Friday, Saturday night
or whatever night's good there, and young people are simply
not going out. Also, what's happening right now is that
people are being a little tighter with their money because

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we're still dealing with much higher prices than we were
just a few years ago, right, I mean, everything is
still elevated in terms of how much it costs after
the inflation Biden years. So people have pulled back on
their discretionary spending, and a lot of times restaurants is
one of the first things that gets cut. Grant, are
you and Olivia? Have you cut back at all on
your restaurants spending? A ton? We have two and granted

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we went, Oh, we had the best experience at the
Fort on Friday night. I got to tell this story
really quickly. So we don't go out to dinner very
often anymore. We used to go out quite a bit.
But it was my birthday, so we went out to
the Fort and Holly, the owner of the Fort, who
I am not kidding you, is like one of the
nicest people you will ever meet in your entire life.
I send her a little note and said, hey, we're

(56:45):
going to be there Friday night. Are we going to
see you? Because I genuinely just wanted to see her
and say hi. But she wasn't there. She's set up
their Tomahawk's Champagne service. Have you ever seen the saber
service where they take the saber and they open there.
They do it with a tamahawk at the fort. Of
course they do the coolest thing. So we got the

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tamahawk with the bubbley and whatever. But we've scaled back
our dinner spending a lot. Now we still go out
to breakfast on the weekends. I love a good breakfast
and we are so blessed with so many great breakfast
places in the Denver metro area. Now, some would say,
how do you screw up breakfast? Trust me, I've been

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to restaurants the screw up breakfast. It's it's not that
hard to screw up breakfast. But as far as our
overall restaurant spending, it is dramatically reduced. But here we
have more restaurants in Denver that are closing and they
are naming the thing that is one of the reasons
that they're closing. Cap City Tavern closed yesterday permanently after

(57:53):
eighteen years of service, and what a great spot it was.

Speaker 9 (57:57):
Man.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
The restaurants owners cited the rise in minimum wage, the
cost of food, and Denver taxes and fees as the
reasons for its closure. Let's see how many of those
things to the City of Denver control. Two out of
three are in the control of the Denver City Council.

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Minimum wage and Denver taxes and fees. Those are problems
created by government that are now shutting down businesses. I
did a quick search to find other places that had
recently closed. Westward actually has a list of restaurants closing
so far. They said, these are the ten biggest eateries
that have closed this year. They start with AJ's, Pitt Barbecue,

(58:41):
Blue Moon Brewing, Denver Stockyard, Saloon, El Noah Noah, Fruition,
Mercury Cafe, Middleman and Misfit Snack Bar, Noiset, Sushirama, Zomma,
and more.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
That's just ten of the many who have closed.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Have been to four or five of those places you
had been, had been now you did visit when they
were alive. And around.

Speaker 8 (59:03):
They were all very well run establishments.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
With you cannot fight against an insane minimum wage because
restaurants by design are a labor intensive business. Oh.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
When we were in Japan, they.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Have restaurants where you put your order in and then
a little robot brings you your food, like a little
wheelly robot like just brings you over your but you
have to take it off the tray. And I'm like,
I'm not tipping you for that, mister. If you're not
even gonna put my food on the track, I'm not
tipping you. What's that robot spending the tip? My exactly?
Exactly oil for everyone. But we're going to see more

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and more, and I hope restaurant owners are honest about
the reasons that they are closing, and so far they
have been. I looked at a bunch of stories about
restaurants and bars that have closed. The bars say the
same thing, it's just a changing business environment. If they're
on Colfax, the Colefax construction project is killed so many
places already. And if you do you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Ever drive down there where that constructs, Oh my god, griam.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Oh, I haven't been that way in a while. I
have to drive there. When I go to the Independence
Institute to fill in the side hustle, and every time
i'm there, I'm like, oh my god, how are any
of these businesses still open? Well, you got Mary Johnston
guest bart.

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
That's how they drive the people in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
For the record, I love guest bartending gigs. They're super fun.
I loved being a bartender a long time ago. I
enjoy them. I've done them for charity multiple times, but
not once as a restaurant ever.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Said Mandy, we're struggling.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
We think bringing you in as a guest bartender is
all that's gonna take.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
You got two hours on a Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
We feel like that's going to be the game changer.
Doesn't really happen that way. But I live in Douglas County.
The whole reason I brought this story up. I live
in Douglas County where we have not raised the minimum wage,
and we're Frankly. I'm just gonna say it, aside from
a handful, nah, maybe a little more than it, maybe

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two handfuls of really amazing restaurants either in Castle Rock,
Castle Pines, Parker, a little couple here and there, like
in frank Town and Elizabeth, you got the you know,
smaller towns out there. We have way too many chain
restaurants and not enough locally owned restaurants. I try to
support locally owned restaurants whenever I can, and I would

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love to invite restaurant tours who have given it a
shot in Denver only to be frustrated by the nightmare
that is Denver's business environment. Come on down to Doug Co,
give us a try, set up a place in a
storefront in a strip mall, and let us bring you
into our loving arms. We have a couple really, really

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good restaurants in Douglas County now, and I don't want
to say which ones they are because I can still
get a table, But if at some point they are struggling,
I will let you guys know my favorite breakfast place.
I typed out a review for my favorite breakfast place
and then erased it because I.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Was like, oh god, I can still get a table
here in the morning.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Was that the we went to with father Mike? Uh No?

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
That Stug's Diner another favorite of horsp No.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
It's okay. I'm just gonna say, you guys, because the
food in this place that I am about to tell you. Now,
I love breakfast food and Chuck loves breakfast food, but
we like different kinds of breakfast food. He likes pancakes,
stuff like that. I like a really good omelet. I
want like a shrimp and gritz option. I want, you know,
I want something a little heartier for breakfast. There's a
place over myself. It's actually across four seventy from Southlands,

(01:02:28):
in the same plaza. I think it's a safe way,
and it's called Three Little Griddles. Oh on Smoky Hill,
Off Smoky Hill. Oh my god. Everything in that place
is to die for. And I think I've tried everything
in that place now at this point, but I'm never
mentioning it again. Sushi Restaurant in Omaha is a robot
server that's very forward of Omaha. You don't necessarily think

(01:02:54):
of Nebraska as being like a leader in these types
of things. I've heard it's an underrated town. Maybe you
know how far is Omaha driving from here? Is that
like a weekend road trip doable type thing? I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:03:06):
I'd have to look. I want to say, it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
How far it is Omaha from Denver driving.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Let's just give it to the Wow, that's a long weekend. Maybe,
but that's a long time in a car for just
a weekend weekend, especially for Omaha. Seriously, because you got
to drive will you drive right by Grand Island though
you drive through Lincoln North Platte.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Nebraska is not as bad as Kansas.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
I mean, if we're honest and don't I don't have
anything against the wonderful people of Kansas, because every time
I go to Kansas and I have an interaction with
a human, it is delightful. But God, there's not all
humans in Kansas, long stretches of nothing but cowstink, you
know what I mean, God forbid you roll down the
window and you're like, oh, there's a feed lot somewhere.

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It's Kansas.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
They're everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
But Nebraska actually has they have some scenery here and there.
It's not flat corn wait and cows. I mean, don't
get me wrong, there's a lot of all of that Nebraska.
I went to a wedding in Indiana, Fort Wayne, Indiana.
You ever been to Fort Wayne, Indiana? Grant I have? Okay,
so I fly into Fort Wayne, Indiana, I rent a car.

(01:04:17):
This is exactly what the lady at the car rental
place told me to get to where I was going.
She said, Okay, you're gonna go out there and get
on this highway right out here, and you just you
start to drive, and you drive for a while, and
then right when you think, my god, that's a lot
of corn, then you turn right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
I kid you not, and Grant she was exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Mom.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I was like, good lord, this is a lot of corn.
There's my right turn. She knew what she was doing
there in Fort Wayne, Indiana. I know, don't you don't
you from folks in Kansas? Lol, Mandy, I'm listening to
you south of Salina, Kansas. I sure do love Kansas,
though people who love I'm not saying there's not good

(01:04:59):
parts of Kansas. I'm just saying that drive through Kansas, Lord,
have mercy. It feels like you're going backwards in time
the whole time you're driving there. This texture, said many Mandy,
probably not typical Kansas, but Olesa, Kansas is a delightful, upscale,
friendly and modern. There are beautiful places in Kansas. My
kids lived in Manhattan and it was a delight to visit.

(01:05:20):
I don't want Kansas to think I'm disparaging the whole state.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
I'm just saying, driving.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Through it, yikes, yikes. And somebody texted about Dougs Diner.
Let me just say one more thing about doug Diner.
We know the owners of Dougs Diner, and years ago
when it was owned by somebody else, Chuck asked for
extra blueberries and his pancakes and they brought and said,

(01:05:46):
he always says, I'll pay I'll pay extra, you know,
I just want a ton of blueberries in my pancakes.
And they brought them a pancake with eight blueberries in it,
and he was like, I'm never coming here again. Then
we met the people who had just bought the Doug's
Diner chain, because Doug Segner is a regional chain only
in the front range, and he said, oh, I got
to tell you a story about doug Seiner, and they
kind of laughed. And now when you go to a

(01:06:07):
Doug signer anywhere and you want to order pancakes with
blueberries or chocolate chips in them, there's a little thing
that says you can chuck it up for eight you know,
this amount of money that is named after my Chuck,
and it's one of his proudest points. That he's ever had.
And the best part about the story is his older
brother's in town. We take him to Doug Signer because

(01:06:27):
when people are in town, we take him to Doug
Signer because Chuck wants to show everybody that he's got
something named after him on the menu. And his brother
looks at it and Chuck's like, yeah, that's named after me,
and his brother was like, oh my god, I've always
wanted to have something named after me on a menu.
So now it's a bone of contention that Chuck has something,
you know, named after him on a menu. Anyway, I mean,

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it is just wow wow. Anyway, We've got a bunch
of other stuff on the blog. When we get back
at two fifteen, where going to talk to Dustin's Devonic
about two different ballot initiatives that have been sent to
the title Board. And they're ballot initiatives that would require

(01:07:11):
the Colorado legislature to spend transportation dollars on transportation. I know,
I know, crazy, right crazy. So we're going to talk
to him at two fifteen. But when we get back,
I want to talk about some of the trade deals
that Trump has struck. Over the weekend he announced with

(01:07:31):
the head of the EU Ursula von something something a
trade deal that when I I was on the internet
and I saw a headline and the headline was so
crazy that I was like, well, that can't be right,
and then I read the details of the trade deal.
Now I'm not a master negotiator, but the EU got

(01:07:52):
screwed in this trade deal. If it is as it
appears to be, and I don't know why in the
world they would agree to it, because it's that much
better than what we had done prior. Now, we were
supposed to have two hundred trade deals by August first.
We've had like six, but they're with major trading partners.

(01:08:13):
So I'm more worried about major trading partners than I
am not major trading partners. And the one trading partner
that we seem to be having a tough time with
right now is Canada because we have a lot of
over the borders type stuff going back and forth with
Mexico and Canada and Canada. We still haven't gotten that
deal done. But I asked Rock about trade deals specifically

(01:08:37):
that had been that had been announced. You, guys, I
gotta tell you, I am now at the point where
I am relatively confident that GROC is going to give
me decent information, especially when I ask it to link
to its sources, which it does automatically.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
But I'm like, what source did you get this from?

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Where'd you get this? GROC? And I asked ROC is said, hey,
let's talk about the trade deals that have been announced.
We'll get into some of those, but what's happening right now?
And it's this is very, very, very significant. And I
don't love tariffs. I think they're stupid. I don't you know,
but a couple of things are happening under these Trump
trade deals. Number One, no one is going to get

(01:09:20):
truly free trade with United States of America. Everyone is
going to have to pay some kind of tariff to
do business here and get access to our markets. That
is a fundamental shift in some of these trade operations.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
That is significant.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
And number two, more and more economists are starting to
say things like, wait a minute, Trump is fundamentally changing
the way trade is going to be done.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
And it's not necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
A bad thing. The way it's happening, it kind of
looks like winning to me. We'll get into it next.

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Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Mandy Connell joined by Grant Smith, who's in for a
Rod who is out covering a very hot training camp
today for the Denver Broncos. Just look at it like this, Grant.
In Miami, it's like this all the time. That's why
I can't. I just I refuse to go to Dolphins
game until November.

Speaker 8 (01:10:46):
I'm going to Charleston, South Carolina later this week.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
And what comes there?

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Like he's going to breeze though in Charleston. Charleston actually
has kind of a pleasant climate. Have you ever been
there before?

Speaker 10 (01:10:57):
I have?

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Yeah, I love it there. It's so pretty.

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
My brother lives in Sumter now, so okay at a
friend's condo.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Very nice.

Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
That is that Folly Beach So I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Oh my gosh, that Folly Beach is. Where are people
from Athens, Ohio? Goes people from Louisville, Kentucky on spring break?
Go to Deston. So when you are in Deston, Florida
during the springtime, you can't swing a dead cat without
hitting somebody from Louisville, Kentucky. Folly Beach, North Carolina. Everybody
from Athens goes to Folly Beach. I've never heard of

(01:11:28):
it in my whole life until I married someone from Athens, Ohio.
Then they're like, Flly Beach, Folly Beach. I'm like, Okay,
I will accept that. It's amazing. It's like Myrtle.

Speaker 8 (01:11:36):
Beach, but a little classier and a little scholar.

Speaker 7 (01:11:39):
Yeah. Well, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
I mean, if you've been to Daytona, You've been to
Myrtle Beach.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
I've been to both so many times and enjoyed the trashy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
News of it. They kind of love making fun of
Daytona Beach. I kind of do, I really do, because
it is Uh, it is trashy, Grant, that's a great
word for it. Trashy people, Uh, trashy everything.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Bike Week is accepted there because it doesn't change the
culture at all. It just is the same, only with
more people. And I love Daytona Beach for a short
periods of time. Anyway, I want to talk about a
couple of things before we get in with Dustin Devonic
here in just a few minutes to talk about some

(01:12:23):
proposed ballot initiatives about transportation. And I want to talk
about some of these trade deals that Trump has struck.
The latest with the European Union that is so one sided.
I can't even believe that this deal was made. If
I'm honest, and I'm not some kind of master negotiator,
I mean, stop it, but just listen to this from

(01:12:44):
the New York Times. President Trump said that the European
Union had agreed to purchase seven hundred and fifty billion
dollars of American energy, which Ursula von der Leyen, the
president of the EU's Executive Branch, told reporters would be
spread out over three years. The twenty seven nation block
also read to increase its investment in the United States
by more than six hundred billion above current levels, adding

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that the European Union would buy military equipment. A senior
US official said that those investments would include pharmaceuticals and
the automotive industry, among others. The two sides also agreed
to drop tariffs to zero on a range of goods,
including aircraft plane parts, certain chemicals, certain generic drugs, semiconductor equipment,

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and some agricultural products.

Speaker 7 (01:13:32):
Ms.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Vonder Lehan said, So I asked Rock, because you know,
Grock's my new best friend. I asked Rock for key
details about the various trade deals. And here's what he
came up with. By the way, Grant, do you think
that Grock is male or female? And do you think
Cha Gibt is male or female? You know what's weird.

Speaker 6 (01:13:54):
I've never never really thought about it until right now
when you asked me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
But for some reason, I think may for both.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
I think mail too.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
For some reason, AI feels mail because you know, it's
very willing to tell you things that may or may
not be true. No, I'm kidding, guys, I'm kidding. At
there you go exactly. We should call it che explaining
or gro explaining, you know. Okay, So we've got the
US UK Economic Deal that was announced in May. This

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addresses section two thirty two tariffs on steel and aluminum,
allowing for adjustments or quotas. Starting July ninth of twenty
twenty five, UK origin products under the WTO Agreement on
Trade in Civil Aircraft are exempt from tariffs and it
builds on prior suspensions and aims to boost bilateral trade
while protecting US industries. And then we have the US

(01:14:47):
China Preliminary Trade Frame Framework. China eased restrictions on rare
earth exports to the US, suspended a plan thirty four
percent terrifike for ninety days. They did retain a ten
percent rate in exchange. The US poses and reciprocal tariffs.
No full tariff elimination, but it de escalates tensions from
the ongoing trade war. It is a truce extension that

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open source for further talks. Then there's the US Indonesia Framework,
reduces Indonesia's reciprocal tariff right from nineteen percent from an
original thirty two percent, focuses on balanced trade.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
And goods like electronics and commodities.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
And then we have the US Japan's Strategic Trade announcement
fifteen percent tariffs on most Japanese exports to the US
that was down from a threat in twenty five that
covers autos, electronics, and other goods. They also commit five
hundred and fifty billion in US investments over Trump's term,
plus increased purchases of US energy and defense equipment. Zero

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tariffs on select items like aircraft and chemicals. So these
are some of our biggest trading partners, and it is
definitely interesting to see how Trump is trying to leverage
access to American markets to get allies to do things

(01:16:13):
that he wants them to do. One area where the
tariffs are not going to be dropped or on steel
and aluminum. And I think there's a very valid reason
why Trump is trying to encourage steel an aluminum production
here in the United States of America because without steeling
the aluminum production here in the United States, in a
battle situation, in a wartime footing, we would be getting

(01:16:36):
all of our steel from somewhere else. You can't build ships,
you can't build planes, you can't build the things you
need for war without aluminum and steel. So he's really
trying to reshore those things. The problem is with both
of those is that aluminum, especially is a very, very
energy intensive industry. Making aluminum takes a lot of energy,

(01:16:59):
not not as not as much as like.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
AI, but it takes a lot of energy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
And more and more states are doing dumbass things like
the things we've done in Colorado that are going to
make energy more expensive and by the way. I have
an article today by Sherry Pie at Complete Colorado. In
a recent meeting of the Clean Energy Office, plans were
discussed on how to shove us further down the renewable

(01:17:25):
grid plan that is being pushed and promoted by Jared Pols.
And the reality is is that Jared Pols has already
said I know it's going to make things more expensive.

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
He just doesn't care.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
I'm gonna take a quick time out Dustin Devonic when
we get back Dustin Devona. He is with the seventy
six group and we are hopefully, I say hopefully, we'll
find out after the title Board takes a bite at
the apple. Hopefully the people of Colorado will be able
to speak in this next election cycle and tell our
our overlords under the Gold Dome that we actually want

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transportation dollars that were collected under the premise of being
for transportation to.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Actually be used for our roads.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
For potholes, for bridges, and not for more crappy, stupid
multi modal crap that nobody wants. And joining me now
to talk about it is these two measures have just
been sent to the title Board. But Dustin, let's talk
about what's in the meat of these and why do
we need.

Speaker 9 (01:18:26):
To Yeah, so thanks for having me on. You know,
these two measures are exactly as you described them. They
are an effort to say, hey, listen, the taxpayers of Colorado.
We pay sales and use tax every time we purchase
a car, every time we buy new tires or parts
for our car. We pay fees on deliveries, we pay

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fees on uber all of which are supposed to go
to roads and bridges. That's always what it's promised to be.
But of course that is never the case. And so
what these measures seek to do. And there are two
of them, and I'll tell you the only difference between
the two. One has a sunset of ten years and
one doesn't. Otherwise, the the exact same, And at the
heart of it, it is a measure that it's not

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a novel concept to the state of Colorado, but it
is telling our legislators, current and future and governor that
we want to see two thirds of all of this
revenue that's generated by sales and use tax of automobile
or cars and car related parts, as well as delivery
fees to actually go to roads. People across our state,

(01:19:30):
especially in rural communities, but frankly, all throughout the front
range are sick and tired of our poor roads, our
poor transportation system, and want to see it improved, and
not as you mentioned, just going to more bike path
beautification or.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
You know, mass.

Speaker 9 (01:19:45):
Transit that frankly, we could subsidize sneakers and it'd be
a better investment than then putting more into mass trands.
That we want money to go to roads. And that's
what these measures would do, is it would put in
our constitution a requirement that these funds actually go to roads.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
So if both of these make it through the title board,
are both of them going to be run? And if
both pass? I mean what that seems a little confusing.
What was the thinking behind putting one that sunsets and
putting one that doesn't. What is the logic there one will?
Ultimately there will only be one.

Speaker 9 (01:20:18):
I think that the coalition that has come together, it's
from a broad coalition of local elected leaders from across
the state, business leaders from across the state. Colorado is
a state that is you know, known to use the
sunset provision too, and I think it's it's always a
good idea. Frankly, I think I wish we would sunset
every regulation that's on the books in the state and

(01:20:39):
require the legislators to reauthorize them. But I think that
the question is do we sunset this or do we
just make it permanent? And and I think there's a
good argument to be had. So if one gets through,
the other will get through.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
But ultimately there will.

Speaker 9 (01:20:51):
Only be one of them on the ballot, and we
will know. The title setting process takes anywhere from four
to six weeks, and so at the conclusion of that process,
if we have a measure to take to the voters,
we will, but there will be a decision to move
with either a sunset or not.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Now, Destin, let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Have you guys compiled any of the various ways that
this money that is coming in all those delivery fees
we're paying them every single time we get a delivery,
the ways that this money has been diverted, Because this
is what I think most Coloradens don't know. They were
sold a bill of goods on things like, hey, raise
your registration fees when you register your car, and we're
going to use it to fix roads and bridges, and

(01:21:30):
that money just seems to be going into a giant
black hole. Then we have delivery fees, We have all
of these things that were sold to Coloradin says this
is going to fix our roads and bridges. All that
money is going elsewhere. Are you guys accumulating a list
of the ways that this money has been diverted to
really help people understand why we have to vote for this.

Speaker 9 (01:21:50):
Yeah, yes, absolutely, and in some of itself evident. I mean,
the thing that we've seen is that the state of
Colorado is currently in a seven hundred million dollar deficit.
Despite the fact that they're in there, they're taking in
record levels of revenue, and it's because they continue to
do things like they Over the years, they've had the
largest expansion of Medicaid. And it's not because more and
more people who actually should be on Medicaid are are

(01:22:13):
participating in it, but it's they're expanding the eligibilities to
where it's really creeping well beyond the intent of helping
people who you know, are struggling financially and need the
extra assistance. So the expansion of Medicaid has been a
significant just the growth of government, the number of employees
that the state. You know, there's there's a new division
or department that's created. You know, there's tons of ways

(01:22:35):
in which the state is grown, it's expenditures, but it
hasn't been towards roads. And I think that's the other
thing that's key about these measures is that what we
would be doing is forcing fiscal discipline on a very
not physically disciplined state legislature and saying, you guys are
already collecting these fees from us. We don't need a
new tax, we don't need another fee. We need you

(01:22:58):
to take the money that you're we're already saying you
can spend it on roads. But we will have a
very comprehensive list and it won't be hard to put
together of all the ways in which they're diverting those
dollars that should have already been going to our roads
to other priorities that the legislature has.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Dustin's Ivonik is my guest, Dustin, what's the timeline on
this title board approval or not?

Speaker 9 (01:23:18):
Yeah, so typically it takes four to six weeks. We
just submitted last week, so that you know there there
will be an opportunity for any any challenges that first,
the first you know thing that we'll have to prove
is that there's a single subject which we believe there is.
The attorney's working on this, you know, I feel confident
that it's going to get through. I'm sure that it's

(01:23:39):
going to be challenged. I'm sure that the defenders of
the status quo that they want to see government continue
to grow and are going to say, I suggest that
by requiring money go to roads and bridges that was
supposed to go to roads and bridges is going to
force us to cut elsewhere. We're going to hear a
lot of that during the title setting process and then
ultimately in the campaign, But I would say it. You know,

(01:24:00):
sometime in the next four weeks we will have an
affirmative decision from Titleboard. At that point, it will require,
because it's a constitutional measure, for the proponents to go
and get the signatures necessary to get it on the
ballot for November of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
So as soon as that happens, as soon as you
guys hit the ground and you're ready to go, please
let's revisit this so I can make sure that my
people are looking out at grocery stores and all of
those places that they're asking for signatures, so we can
get enough signatures to get this thing on the ballot,
because I know that I'm not the only one who
recently had to have you know, my car realigned because
of Colorado's road, so it's time to do something about it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
Dustin, I appreciate your time today.

Speaker 9 (01:24:44):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
All right. That is Dustin Zavonic from the seventy six group,
and I will keep you guys posting on that. We'll
be right back.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
A lot of stuff on the blog today.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
Got a lot of stuff about what's happening right now
in Israel, and I I have an article where there
are a couple of Israeli groups who now say that
Israel is committing genocide. That being said, what's happening right
now with the Gaza food situation is not what it
initially seems to be. There's an organization called the Gaza

(01:25:17):
Humanitarian Foundation. They are an American and Israeli back to
organization that is delivering food to people.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
In Gaza right now as we speak.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
And over the weekend they published a video of a
bunch of UN trucks and a bunch of UNAID just
sitting there and the UN says, oh, we can't get
it into Gaza because Israel won't let us use the roads. Well,
Israel is trying to help them use roads that are
still functioning. There's a lot of back and forth between

(01:25:48):
UN and Israel, but for every accusation that the UN makes,
Israel has an extremely rational explanation for what they're doing. Now,
the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is getting aid into Gaza. They're
making it happen. They're delivering food to people who are starving.
What they're not doing is delivering food to a mass,
which is what the UN has been doing. And I

(01:26:10):
think the UN is letting that aid sit because they
want Palestinians to starve. And it sounds harsh and it
sounds horrible, But the only way you can continue to
make Israel look horrible is if Palestinian people suffer. Now,
we all know the easiest way to bring all of
this to a close is just release the hostages, release
the last fifty Amas, just release them, or tell us

(01:26:34):
you don't know where they are, which is a real
possibility at this point. But the reality on the ground
in Israel is much more complicated than it appears to be.
When asked about the piles of aid being, you know,
right outside Gaza. The UN seem to confirm why the
Palestinians are starving in the first place by saying this

(01:26:56):
is from the New York Times. To retrieve the eid
at the border or move around most of the Gaza strip,
UN trucks must enter zones controlled by the military after
obtaining its permission. Once the eight is loaded, the trucks
must get safely to the population. The whole trip can
take twenty hours, the UN says. Large crowds of desperate people,

(01:27:17):
as well as criminal gangs, overwhelm trucks as they enter and.

Speaker 5 (01:27:21):
Strip off the supplies.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Witnesses say Israeli troops regularly open fire on the crowds,
causing deaths and injuries. Now who's dying, who's being injured?
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
By the way, Israelis said.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Yes, we have done that because some moss was overrunning
the trucks taken together, says a spokesperson for the UN Office.

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
These factors have put.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
People in humanitarian staff at grave risk and forced aid
agencies on many occasions to pause the collection of cargo
from crossings controlled by the Israeli authorities. Now I'm going
to tell you a little story about when Chuck was
in Somalia. Chuck was sent to Somalia and he was
sent there because they were trying to help starving people.

(01:28:05):
Remember that's why we were in Somalia. And he has
rather harrowing stories of accompanying AID trucks into Somalia when
starving Somalians would leap onto the trucks and the soldiers
had no choice but to push them off the moving
trucks to make sure that the aid got to where
it was going. Because a lot of those people all

(01:28:27):
worked for the Somali warlords, who then took the AID
for themselves and sold it to the population at at
exorbitant rates. That's why the Somalia people were starving, the
same reason the people in Gaza are starving. Hamas fighters
are well fed. Amas fighters have plenty of food. Hamas

(01:28:47):
has warehouses full of food. They turned around and sell
it on the black market to people who are trying
to run stores and markets. So I'm not buying that
Israel is the problem here. Hamas is always the problem
in anything involving Israel. You should read all of the
information that I have, though it's very very interesting and

(01:29:08):
it's worth your time. Now I want to talk about
a text message or not a text message like Dan
Bongeno's text messaging me. A post on x dot com
that was made by Deputy Director of the FBI Dan Bongino.
Dan Bongino has been catching a lot of crap because
as a podcaster, he was one of the guys screaming

(01:29:28):
that we all needed to expose all of these things
blah blah blah. And this is what he's sent out
on x dot com this weekend. It says, during my
tenure here is the Deputy Director of the FBI, I
have repeatedly relayed to you that things are happening that
might not be immediately visible, but they are happening. The

(01:29:48):
Director and I are committed to stamping out public corruption
and the political weaponization of both law enforcement and intelligence operations.
It is a priority for us. But what I've learned
in the course of our properly predicated and necessary investigations
into these aforementioned matters has shocked me to my core.
We cannot run a republic like this. I'll never be

(01:30:11):
the same after learning what I've learned. We're going to
conduct these righteous and proper investigations, by the book and
in accordance with the law. We are going to get
the answers we all deserve. As with any investigation, I
cannot predict where it will land, but I can promise
you an honest and dignified effort at the truth. Not
my truth, not your truth, but the truth. God bless

(01:30:34):
America and all those who defend her. Respectfully, Dan, Now,
a lot of people are super excited about this, but
I remain cynical.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
I remain jaded.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
Don't get me wrong. I've said it before. I would
love to see powerful people purpwalked. I would love to
see powerful people be tried for crimes against the United
States of America, which I think some of these things
have been. And I think that the or we find
out and Tulca Gabbard last week was just a machine

(01:31:05):
in destroying the foundation of the untouchable Obama legacy. They're
really saying that they are going to dish the dirt.
They're telling us that we are going to get some
kind of satisfaction. And I think part of the reason
that Dan Bongino put this out, and I think part

(01:31:27):
of the reason that we're seeing so much conversation about
not just not the Epstein files, but the conversations that
we're seeing about the real root of the Russian collusion
investigation and how corrupt the entire beginning and really the
entire operation was. Is because all of a sudden, when
they tried to just tell us that Jeffrey Epstein was

(01:31:49):
a no big deal thing, the rest of us, all
of us normies out here, we were like, no, it
is a big thing. It's a super big thing, because
it's yet another instance of the two tiered system of
justice that we have in this country, where if you're
rich and powerful and connected, you can do whatever you
want and nobody's ever gonna hold you accountable. Mandy, I'm

(01:32:12):
with you. I'll believe it when I see it. That's
why I'm waiting see you know. I'm like, you know what, Becau.
It's like, I'm from the state of Missouri. Show me,
show me the charges, show me the trials, show me
all of that. Before I get excited about any of it, Mandy,

(01:32:32):
take the food for gaza, put it in packages with
parachutes and drop them all over the place so citizens
can get it before Hamas. The problem is is that
citizens have been squashed and killed by air drops.

Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
And I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
I mean, I don't know what you do other than
like attaching a bunch of whistles to the air drop
to let people know. But when people are starving, they're
going to rush to wherever they think they can get food.

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
They're doing airdrops now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Air drops are an extremely ineffective way to distribute aid. Oddly,
the Gazla Humanitarian Foundation has been getting aid to real people,
and that's why Hamas has been shooting people at their
aid distribution centers, because they're getting it done without the UN,
which is already we already know the UN is corrupt
in Israel.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
We already know that members.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
Of the unrah were actually helping Hamas on October seventh.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
That we already know this. This is not in question.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
And by the way that you and we'll say we
fired those people, shouldn't you have charged them with a crime.

Speaker 5 (01:33:34):
Are they in jail right now for what they did?

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
Because if they're not, then you have no standing whatsoever
to say anything about anything. Mandy, how do you know
any of the hostages are still alive with Israel continued
to bomb them. Most of the hostages that remain are dead,
and the Israelis already know this, so they're just looking
to have the body's returned so they can bury them properly,

(01:33:56):
and if they're well outside the window of baring them
properly Forish tradition. But they just want the bodies back
so the families can grieve and you know, have that finality.
They are not a lot of hot Maybe there's a
few that are alive, So I just I don't know
how many Mandy. Legislation was passed in the late nineties
that did just that. It was SB one. Its intended

(01:34:19):
use was to fund a set of strategic highway projects
across the state. When the Dams took over in two
thousand and seven, they reversed the legislation. Of course they did,
because they hate Rhodes as long as they're on them,
as long as we're on them. Rather, Mandy, don't get
your hopes up for prosecutions. Even if the truth gets out,
there will be those who will never believe it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:42):
Still it must be exposed. I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
There are people that you could have Barack Obama murder
someone directly in front of them and they would deny it.
It's a cheap fake. It's a cheap fake. But yeah,
you're right, Mandy. Why should we care about Muslims that
just want to kill us? Because they're human beings, because
they're little babies and little children. And as much as

(01:35:08):
I hate Amas, I don't want little babies and little
children to starve. I mean, I would hope you don't.
I am from Missouri, So show me exactly right, Missouri,
I hear you. Go ahead, Dan Bongino, make it happen.
Mister that maybe pipe down until you actually do that.

Speaker 10 (01:35:27):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
John Caldera.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Has a great column in the Denver Gazette today, like
a great column, and it is about the fact that
we are about to be asked to shell out for
a new football stadium. You know it's coming, I know
it's coming. And John Caldera wants us to leverage the
stadium to get some real results on things that are wrong.

(01:35:53):
How about safe and clean streets Denver? How about doing
something significant and important with the homeless population, which, by
the way, have you driven around the capitol recently, Grant
at all, haven't been that way yet? Ah, the urban
outdoorsmen are out in force. There's no tense visible, but boy,

(01:36:13):
how do you drive through there in the middle of
the day and there's no like working people there?

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
Mandy, there are most twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
Two hostages still alive. There you go, Grox says nineteen sixties,
A word invented by Robert Heinlen, American author understanding something
intuitively or by empathy.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
Number two.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
I don't understand that first part number two fixing roads
more driving equals more pollution. But they'll take your money.
I don't even care. I really don't care. I just
want to be able to go where I want to
go when I want to go there, and not hit
a pothole so big that I could vacation in it.
Is that so wrong? Come on, people, come on. A

(01:37:00):
couple of things on the blog that I'd love for
you to see. I've got a really good article on
what to do if you have patchy grass. She got
that going for you, Visible signs of Insulin Resistance. And
my favorite, there is a reality check. A young African
American woman is talking to an African American gentleman and
she says, where are you Where were you born?

Speaker 5 (01:37:20):
And he said Texas And she basically says.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
Well, you're black, so where you feel like life? Is good.

Speaker 5 (01:37:27):
He's like, heck, yeah, I do. And then he proceeds to.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
Point out He's like, your hair looks great, you got
a nice bag on your shoulder. Nobody's oppressing you. It
was fascinating that people are starting to push back on this. Oh,
I forgot to talk about this earlier. I wanted to
talk about it with Rich when he was on the show.
So I saw video this past weekend and it was
of an African American teacher and she's standing in front

(01:37:51):
of a classroom and one of the students, obviously a
young woman. She's saying, my pronouns, are they them? And
the teacher looks editor and goes, there's not more than
one of you, and that's a plural. That's not a thing.
And the girl got really agitated and she's like, my
pronouns are they them? And she's like, no, you're a

(01:38:12):
beautiful young lady, and you're not a multiple. There's no extras.
And the girl got so flustered and upset she got
up and left the classroom. And I was like, think
about what we've done to this young woman. We now
have given her the belief that other people give a
rat's ass about her. Pronouns, and maybe they do in
a high school classroom or a college classroom, but frankly,

(01:38:35):
the rest of the world just doesn't care. And that's
why you see people melting down because someone misgendered them
or used the wrong pronown, because they're so invested in
thinking everyone cares about their feelings, when in reality, mostly
people don't care about your feelings. I mean, just go
on the internet for five minutes and you understand right
away nobody cares about your feelings. You know who cares

(01:38:57):
about your feelings, your mom and dad, your best friends,
but even some of your best friends may be sick
of hearing about your feelings. I mean, I know all
the time I'm having to tell Ryan Edwards stop sharing
your feelings with me.

Speaker 5 (01:39:09):
Ryan, God, it's gross.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
I bet Dave put you up to that. That's okay,
No he didn't. Actually, I'm Dave still on my Doodoo
list for saying I cheated on of the day, I
got a long memory, I got a memory like an elephant.

Speaker 10 (01:39:21):
For stuff like that, I think he just wants you
to provide information and detail sourcing you.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
I'm not Rock, Okay, I'm not Grock. I'm not gonna
give you my sources nights just gonna not have that.
You were out at training camp today, I was what's
the vibe there compared because the last last one I
got to go to was in the Russell Wilson era
and it was super loosey goosey, and there was a
posse there. Russ had his whole posse. Era had a posse.

(01:39:52):
Everybody had a posse. No posse's no posse. So it's
really like serious football time. It's pretty serious football time.

Speaker 10 (01:39:58):
It's also a little different because there's only eight time
hundred fans there versus several thousand rooms too, so it
feels like training camp light in a lot of ways.
But yeah, very focused, attention to detail, work on the field.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
And then that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:40:11):
I'm here for that. I'm fine with that.

Speaker 10 (01:40:13):
Yeah, I think in the end, you know, you're you're
bummed if you're not gonna be able to make it
out the training camp because there's fewer opportunities. At the
same time, what you ultimately want is a Broncos fan
is just them to be good.

Speaker 8 (01:40:23):
We'll talk about that today and now.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
It's time for the most exciting segment all the radio
of its guy the world the nice one of the day.
That was good, Ryan, that was real good. What is
our dad joke of the day? Dad joke of the day.

Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
My wife said if I bought her one more stupid gift,
she would burn it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
So I bought her a candle. That's a good one.

Speaker 7 (01:40:48):
I like that one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Actually, it's quite good, quite good. All right.

Speaker 5 (01:40:51):
Today's word of the day, please.

Speaker 6 (01:40:53):
Word of the day fascil faci l e.

Speaker 4 (01:40:57):
I've heard this one. This is one of the words
that when I eat it, I have to look it up.
Doesn't it mean just like surface level, like not very deep,
just kind of yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:41:07):
I would can give that to you something that is
too simple. There you go, there you go?

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Yeah, all right, today trivia question is super easy too.
Pugilism is a synonym for what popular sport. If you're pugilist,
what are you? Okay? I thought this was really easy,
and I'm getting the perplexed look by you. Ryan.

Speaker 8 (01:41:26):
Yeah, I mean I'm sitting out in the sun, so.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
Okay, I'll give you a moment then.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Do you know, Brian, No, I have no idea boxing
that I actually feel a little more like a man
than you should feel. Right now. After that letting you.

Speaker 10 (01:41:42):
Know perspective what that means?

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
Come on, Ryan, Ryan's always in his feelings. What are
the Jeopardy categories?

Speaker 6 (01:41:54):
Jeopardy category for today? You can go with this or
you can go with that. All right, you can go
with this. You can go with this sunglasses company's club Master,
or you can go with its Classic Aviators.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
Mandy, what is RayBan?

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
You can go to Northeastern and Boston, or you can
go to this directional school in Evanston, Illinois.

Speaker 5 (01:42:15):
Mandy, what is Northwestern?

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
Nice work.

Speaker 6 (01:42:19):
You can go see Luca and King James at Crypto
dot Com Arena, or you can cross town to see
this other NBA team at Intoit Dome.

Speaker 8 (01:42:28):
Ryan, what are the LA Clippers? Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
I couldn't remember if they were on the Lakers or
they were on the Clippers, and I didn't want to
put myself out like that.

Speaker 6 (01:42:37):
Go to Lombardi's for a New York style pizza, or
drive northeast one state to Pepe's to try this New
City's thin crusted style.

Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
I think I know, but I read one more time.

Speaker 8 (01:42:51):
Ryan, what is New York slice a pizza?

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
Ain't correct?

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
Read it again?

Speaker 6 (01:42:56):
Go to Lombardi's for a New York style pizza, or
drive northeast one state to Pepe's to try this new
city's thing crusted styles.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
I got nothing new Haven.

Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
Answer that you can climb Mount Rainier, which you can
see from Seattle, or you can climb this eleven thousand
footer you can see from Portland.

Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
When he heard Ryan Noe, what is Mount Hood? Oh, Dann,
I did know that too, somewhere well to to zip.
I'll take it. I'll take it. What do you got
on the show today? Who you got on the show today?
We're gonna have you in rapport?

Speaker 10 (01:43:35):
Joining us at three thirty all sorts of sound in
reaction to the first Pad's day for the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
Good for Pats, Tan, what do you mean? Wait?

Speaker 7 (01:43:44):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
Who got Courtland?

Speaker 5 (01:43:46):
He got paid?

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
He got paid.

Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
That's really really good for him.

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
Sorry, Pat, didn't mean to throw your gut your hopes
up there for a second. And what did he do?

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
No, No, it's uh, it's Courtland sunon the big money.

Speaker 8 (01:43:56):
Nice contracts.

Speaker 10 (01:43:57):
Yeah, I'll him in a little bit about Coach Prime
in you know what when I because I.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
Talked to my audience about the fact I'm having as
directed me this Friday, and I actually referenced that we
all know he's had some medical issues, but he's been
kind of not open about it, and I was like,
I wish you would talk about it, not the least
of which because now it will inspire other men to
pay attention to their health.

Speaker 5 (01:44:18):
But also there's a lot of people who are.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
Gonna be praying for him now and hopefully he will
make a full recovery and and you know, go and
live a long, happy, healthy life from here on out.
But I heard that today, I heard the press conference.
I was like, good for him, good for him for sharing.
It's hard, but I'm glad that he's out there talking
about what's going on. So hopefully we'll recover soon. We
got Kaoe Sports coming up next. We'll be back tomorrow.

(01:44:40):
Keep it on, Koa