07-30-25 FULL SHOW - We've Got Weather, Immigration Reform, And EPA Fixing CO2

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Show. I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connell.
And today in the revolving producer chair, we have mister
Shannon Scott in for Anthony Rodriguez, who is busy providing
excellent video content on our social media channels from Broncos
training camp. If you want the inside story or the
inside scoop, you got to follow us. All of our

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social media assets, as they say, are at Koa, Colorado,
and Twitter and Instagram are full right now of all
kinds of stuff. So check that out and make that
happen now. Oh my goodness, gracious, you guys so much
stuff today, and some of it is amazing. Of course, Well,

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I'll do the blog right now. Let's do the blog
and then we'll jump into the details of what we've got.
Find the blog by going to Randy Cromwell dot com.
Randy Cromwell dot com. You look inquisitive, Shannon. Did you
not know that Randy Cromwell is my secret name. It's
I'm bad at keeping secrets. Apparently you know. There's a

(01:03):
great story behind Randy Cromwell, and I'll share it now
because people may not know. Years ago, I was having
a dinner where I met listeners who would won a prize.
And one of the listeners who had won the prize
is a guy named Steve Morbaker who became a good
friend of mine, and he said at the dinner, he said, yeah,
after I found out I won, I was very excited.
And I was working with my cousin Dale, who were
working on a project outside, and I kept saying, Wow,

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I'm so excited to get to meet Mandy Connell. This
is so exciting. I'd get to go to have dinner
with Mandy Connall and I just all day I was
talking about it, and finally at the end of the day,
Dale turned around and went, who the hell is Randy Cromwell.
That's how well known I am in circles, Shannon, some
circles extremely well known, So Randy Cromwell I sometimes you

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know anyway, And a listener bought Randy Cromwell dot com
and redirected it to my blog because my listeners are amazing.
You can also find it by going to bandy'sblog dot
com and looks for the headline that says seven thirty
twenty five blog We've got weather, immigration reform, and EPA
fixing co two. Click on that and here are the

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headlines you will find within.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Anybody's missing office.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Half of American all with ships and clipas and c
going to press plane today. On the blog Weather Wednesday
at twelve thirty, the EPA says CO two isn't bad
at all. Weld County Commissioner Scott James is on board
with the Dignity Act. Representative Ron Weinberg seems to have issues.
Our roads are horrible by design. Til Wiser joins the

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idiotic planned parenthood lawsuit. Have you watched K pop demon
Hunters yet? Why O excuse me? CPW is killing some wolves.
Denver's layoffs start August eighteenth. The Epstein jail video is suspicious.
When Wanda James fries racism, does anyone care anymore? The
Netflix tax proves how stupid our sales tax system is.

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El Paso says no thank you to XL's massive power
line project. It's the end of a cable era. Does
travel wreck your gut? I'm trying this for jet Lag,
Bed Bath and Beyond is coming back. Cores is making
the overch It's time to change course on homelessness. The
truth behind the Biggest Loser about the Denver post threatening

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to docks Do Better Denver. Those are the headlines on
the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Well done banned. The
blog is long today. I got a lot of stuff
on it, but I got an update that's at the
bottom of the blog. But I'm gonna start with it
because yesterday you may have heard us talking about the

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way that a Denver Post reporter has decided that she
is going to do an article, and it appears that
the sole purpose of the article is to out the
people or persons behind the internet account at Do Better
Denver at Do Better Denver. If you missed yesterday, it's
simply an account that shows a light on the truth

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in Denver. I hate to say it like that, but
there's a lot of images of homeless people openly using drugs,
maybe taking a poop on the street. They do blur,
I mean they blur, you know, the sensitive parts. But
the entire purpose of that account is to push back
on the gas lighting that is taking place in this
state and in the city of Denver. When it comes

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to elected officials telling us everything is about them. It's
not awesome and we cannot fix something if we pretend
it doesn't exist, right, that's a big deal. So that's
what Do Better Denver does. As far as I know,
Do Better Denver does not profit at all from this site.
They do not make any money. They have not monetized

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their Instagram feed or their Twitter feed. No money being made.
They're really doing it because they love the city of
Denver and they want these problems taken care of. And
now the Denver Post has decided that outing that account
holder is going to get them the pullets through that
they so so want. I'm assuming, I mean, I'm just guessing.

(05:06):
So I had a conversation today. Yesterday I told you
that I had, Well, did I talk to her, talk
to her, try to figure out when I had that conversation.
So I talked to do Better Denver yesterday and then
I talked to one of the people that this reporter
has decided is do Better Denver today. Now, just so

(05:30):
you know, those two people are not the same person
at all. One of them I have known for some time,
but I didn't realize they had been sucked into this
Denver postnoxing vortex until this morning. And I have a
letter on the blog today from that person that was
sent to the Denver Post about this story, but that

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this does not even begin to scratch the surface of
what I found out today about how this reporter is
going about making these calls. The calls are kind of
going like this, Yeah, I'm gonna do a story outing
you as the person behind Do Better Denver. Person says
that's not me. Uh yeah it is, and we know
you live at this address, and we know this, and

(06:16):
we know and proceeds to zip off a litany of
highly personal information about the person that they are falsely
accusing of being behind Do Better Denver. And this is
the thing that I don't think the Denver Posts, or
the Mayor's office or anybody else can possibly understand. Do
Better Denver is powered by thousands of people. Thousands. They

(06:39):
get submissions every day of people saying, this is happening
in the park down the street from my house, this
is happening here. You know why people are sending it
because they've called three to one one one thousand times,
They've called nine one one a thousand times, and the
City of Denver won't do a damn thing. But you
know what happens when something appears on Do Better Denver,

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something gets done. Apparently the only way to spur the
city into action is to humiliate them on the internet
for not doing what they needed to do in the
first place. And this is untenable. This is untenable. I
know that the Mayor's office despises this account. Despises this account.

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As a matter of fact, a corper request was filed
Cora the Colorado Open Records Act. It is part of
our Sunshine laws here in Colorado. A corper request was
filed asking for information about any emails that went back
and forth between the Mayor's office and the Denver Police
Department that might have included anything about do better Denver.

(07:42):
It appears I have not seen all the emails, I
have not seen the documents that were given, but there
is some suggestion that perhaps the Mayor's office asked the
Denver Police Department to see if they could track down
who was behind this account. DPD was like, yeah, this
feels like a First Amendment things, and all of a sudden,

(08:02):
here comes the Denver post. Imagine imagine how shocking that is.
I totally a coincidence. I am positive. I'm not positive
that's a lie. So let me just read to you
the statement that was sent to the Denver Post and
their ownership, their legal department. Everybody got this email yesterday.

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This person is still asking to remain anonymous as long
as they can. If this story comes out and does
name them, it will be blatantly false. And I believe them.
By the way, As I said, I've known this person
for some time, so I believe them one hundred percent.
So this is a letter that was saying, dear Miss Colichiappo,
my name is blank, and I'm writing to express serious

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concern about a call I received yesterday from Ms Bradbury
regarding a forthcoming article about the Instagram account Do Better Denver.
During the call, Miss Bradbury accused me and two others
also include in this email of operating the account, an
accusation that is entirely false. None of us managed to
do Better Denver account or have any control over its content.

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The account is a decentralized crowdsourced platform with hundreds, if
not thousands, of contributors across the city. One individual decides
what to post to when to post it. Our only
occasional involvement has been to share public information or images,
including results from Cora requests, when we felt they revealed
something of public interest. For example, I uncovered through a

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CORA that hundreds of thousands of dollars from the general
Fund are being spent on shelter repairs costs that are
not reflected in Mayor Johnston's public figures and is housing
one thousand program. Because he campaigned on transparency and has
not delivered it, I exercised my legal right to request
records and share facts. I'm deeply troubled by what appears

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to be an effort by the Denver Post to weaponize
COORRA requests and portray lawful civic engagement as something nefarious
and making individuals fearful of submitting core requests even worse,
Publicly tying individuals falsely to an account that has received
death threats is reckless and potentially puts us and our

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families in harm's way and could impact our livelihoods. If
the Denver Post proceeds with publishing false or defamatory statements
that suggest I or the two others are behind you
better Denver, or if you misrepresent our lawful civic actions,
we will pursue all legal avenues available. This includes potential
claims of libels, defamation, invasion of privacy, and negligent journalism.

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If any harm comes to us, our families, or associates
as a result of this article, your liability will be clear.
This approach to reporting is irresponsible in damaging. You have
a duty to ensure the accuracy of your stories and
to avoid endangering members of the public through speculation and misrepresentation.
I urge you and your report to reconsider sharing our

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names first or last, or any other identifying information eg.
An address, name of an associated business, or place of
work in this article and adhere to your journalistic obligations.
So that letter was fired off to airbody. So we'll
see what happens. But in the meantime, your favorite host

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is already scheming. Oh yes, scheming. And here's what I'm thinking, peeps,
here's what I'm thinking. I will be creating a website.
I mean, maybe not me, because I don't really know
how to create a website, but that I'm gonna use AI.
And AI can create a website. It'll be fine. That
is going to essentially allow people to sign on as

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do Better Denver cub reporters for the sole purpose of
filing core requests for do Better Denver. So we'll have
all of these people. Everybody's gonna file one everybody, so
there will be no way to track it back to
that one single, INDIVIDI jewel whose sole intent is to
shine a light on what's really happening in Denver instead

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of accepting the shine that we get from the mayor
about what's happening in Denver. And I hope you guys
will be down. I hope you will. I haven't had
a brew ha ha like this in year, Shannon. I
love a brew haha, especially one that I helped create.
Now I didn't help create do better Denver. I'm taking
no credit, none at all, None at all. I also

(12:28):
have to the textur you just sent this to the
Common Spirit health text line by texting five sixty six nine.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
The Instagram video shows a cartoon character version of you.
What's the email to send it to?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
My friends, it is on the blog. Someone made a
very clever AI generated video that is fantastic and it's
on the bottom of the blog. And it's got a
little song that goes with it. And yes, it's AI created,
and you can tell it's AI created, But yours truly
does get a shout out in the song. And they

(12:59):
have like a little cartoon image of me that's way
cuter than I actually am in real life. I just
want to whoever made that, I appreciate you. I appreciate
you so much for making me so cute in that video.
But that's on the blog as well, So Mandy blah
blah blah, Mandy. We need to find a way to

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let Denver know if they out do better Denver, about
fifty more will pop up in its place. I certainly hope. So,
in addition to that last text, the reporter should not
be notified that if someone innocent gets called out in
the article and is not do better Denver, that libel
lawsuits might happen. Oh they will, they will. And you
know what, years ago, that would have never stopped a

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story in the media. A threat like that. They would
have been like, oh, screw you. But it is a
new era where news media organizations are being held responsible
for the things they report, and they're having to pay
big settlements for things that they report. So I certainly

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hope that we can get to a point where everybody
does their best to ensure that they have the correct
material before they go forward. Now, I don't think that
the Denver Post is going to stop trying to out
do Better Denver. I don't think this is going away,

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and this is one of the things that I expressed
to do better Denver. I don't think they're going to stop.
And the reality is is that the account has had
death threats, multiple death threats, and I love for someone
to ask the Denver Post why that is news story,
who's behind it? Rather than reporting on what's on their

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social media account? Right, that would be nice Start reporting
on that instead, Mandy. I'm eagerly awaiting to hear the
media responses by Kyle Clark, City Cast, Patty Calhoun and
others about do Better Denver. We already have heard from
Chase Woodrooff from Newsline and then Alan Franklin from Progress
Now on X and their responses are disgusting. They're typical

(15:13):
Alan Franklin. And you know, I'm not going to speak
for Chase Woodruff. I don't know him. I know his
work Leans Left, but I don't know him. But Alan,
anybody who runs Progress Now, in my opinion, probably isn't
a very nice person based on past experience with that
organization and the people who ran it then. So I'm

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just gonna say they have the absolutely predictable response that
you would expect from someone trying to protect the homeless
industrial complex, which is what we have here in Denver.
And all of these people are from the left, all
of them. Now, I have something on the blog today
that wait, let me find it, you know what. I'll

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get to it later. But it's really important and it
has to do with this whole housing first nonsense that
we've been engaged in, that we have all these homeless
people in homeless hotels and no one is talking about addiction.
And how do I know no one is talking about
addiction because I talked to Megan Shay. Megan is the
executive director at STEP Denver. She sent me these statistics.

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The leading cause of death among the homeless and Denver
is overdose and alcohol. The Medical Examiner reports this. In
the year twenty twenty five, there have been one hundred
and twenty seven homeless deaths. In eighty one percent of cases,
the cause of death was overdose. In twenty twenty four,
there were two hundred and twenty homeless deaths. Of those,

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seventy seven percent were caused by overdose and alcohol. Yet
in the Colorado hmis twenty twenty four State of Homelessness Report.
The word substance appears once and only to name Sam Hasse.
There are zero mentions of alcohol, drugs, overdose, or addiction. So,

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if you want to know why the left is circling
the wagons and trying to do better, Denver from doing
what they're doing, because all of their friends are grifting
off this, and they're grifting and not making an impact.
They're not solving the problem, and yet they're turning around
and telling people it's hey, it's solved. We've reduced unsheltered homelessness.
Drive you downtown Denver right now. Tell me that's true.

(17:19):
I mean, it's it's insane. Mandy. You need to expand
your idea more than Denver so we can call out
our local town up and down the front range. Y'all.
There's nothing to stop you from starting do better Longmont,
or do better Broomfield, or do better whatever. There's nothing
to stop you. But I'm just gonna say this. They
will come after you, and you have to be ready

(17:40):
for that. Unfortunately, when we get back, it is time
for Weather Wednesday with our favorite meteorologist Dave Frasier. Up
next time of day when we talk to Dave Fraser,

(18:01):
Fox thirty one's chief meteorologist for Weather Wednesday. We have
a different producer on the board, and we don't he
doesn't know where Dave's open is. Is that not Dave
on the phone?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Shannon?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh wait, hang on, Dave, if you're out there, call us,
call me.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Is that him?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Okay? Never mind, Dave Fraser, Welcome to Weather Wednesday. How
you doing, my friend?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm good.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
I can't hear you, though, I think we do have
a bad connection. Shannon couldn't hear me either.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I can hear you.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Can you hear me barely? So I'll just try and
listen attently and talk.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I will speak to you like I am in a
foreign country, trying to make sure they understand me.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
Do you hear the words coming out of my house exactly?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Let's talk about the weather this week. What do we
have looking to look forward to?

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Okay, I heard that question a little bit. So we
do have to look forward to a chance for showers
and thunderstorms today. Yesterday was disappointing. Anybody watched me on
the air yesterday knows how disappointing it was. We woke
up yesterday morning with like ninety three percent humidity. Yeah,
probably something everybody noticed, and we had just the perfect
ingredients to capitalize on that moisture and get caught up

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on the lack of rain that we've seen in July. Unfortunately,
we just couldn't get things going because the clouds kept
the temperatures down and then the wind turned to the
wrong direction and was downsloping, and so we got a
big old goose egg yesterday up.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
And down the Front Range.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
While eastern and southeastern Colorado had won two inch rain totals.
Today the humidity levels are not as high, but there's
still decent so there's still good moisture, and I do
think covering around stay three to six o'clock up and
down the Front Range, there will be scattered storms, slow movers,
and because of the humidity and the slow movement, there

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can be some pockets of heavy rain. Hopefully it's been
official rain and not a problematic rain where it caused flooding.
That is always a concern, but generally we get to
soak it in, so watch out for ponding, watch out
for standing water and small streams and creeks. If it
rained heavy in.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Your area, could come up, you know, We're not.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Talking flash flooding like you know we saw back in Texas,
but small streams, creeks, little rivers can come up a
little bit. So just be on the lookout for that.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Good news.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
As we say in the eighties, strong chances are there
on Thursday and Friday, but they start to drop off
so that by the weekend we're dried. Heading back into
the nineties.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Okay, I've got a question for you, Hi, Mandy, if
you have time, please ask Dave about corn sweat. We
just returned from the Senior Olympic Games in Des Moines, Iowa,
and the corn was sweating. Heat index was one hundred
and eighteen when my husband was competing. Miserable, but he
still took second place.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Oh congratulations to him. You know, I don't know that
I've probably worked in Des Moines. I don't know that
I've heard the term corn sweat, but I think I
can kind of visualize what you're talking about, And yeah,
you're talking about a heat index and high humidity, something
we don't have to deal with here. As a matter
of fact, the heat index in Colorado, because of our
semi arid climate, generally runs five degrees below what the

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air temperature is because evaporation is how your body cools,
and so when you have high humidity and you're in
an area like de More in Iowa where your humidity
values can you know, it could be ninety five degrees
out with a ninety percent humidity. Your body is trying
to sweat to cool you down, but because the air
is so thick and moisture laden the humidity, the sweat
just stays on your body. You can't cool down where

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our environment as our body sweat, the evaporation process removes
the sweat from us. That's a cooling process and it
actually feels cooler here. So yeah, definitely sweating it out
in the Midwest with the temperatures that they've been having
and the heat indexes that they've been seeing out there
all the way into the Upper Midwest as well.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I use the Google and corn sweat is a term
for the process of evapo transporation in cornfields where corn plants, yeah,
release water vapor into the atmosphere as they absorb water
from the ground and use it for growth in other processes.
This increases the humidity, especially in the Midwest corn belt.

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So that's the thing you know now that yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
So again I had not heard of the term corn sweat,
but a vappot transporation is exactly that plants do grab
ground soil and they can add you think about a
thick canopy of a forest or a tropical area, or
certainly corn which uses water and that moisture then evaporates
into the eric can raise the humidity levels around those

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kind of environments.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Here's one for you, make sure, Dave mentions. This is
the anniversary week of both nineteen seventy six Estes Park
and nineteen ninety seven Fort Collins floods. Something about this
time of year in Colorado? Is there something about this
time of year in Colorado?

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Generally? There really isn't anything specific, but I would say
generally speaking, they're at the seventy six you're talking about
the big Thompson flood. We generally deal with slow moving thunderstorms,
and so at this time of the year we can
have monsoon moisture in play. Like I said yesterday, our
due point. You and I talked about due points before.

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It's a measurement of moisture in the air. Obviously, for
US thirties and forties is comfortable, but when we get
into the fifties as Colorado's we start to feel it
when you think of due points in the sixties, and
higher Midwest can have due points in the seventies. That's
that thick, thick air that we talk about.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
All the time.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yesterday morning, our due point was at sixty six degrees.
That's high for us. Today it's set like fifty one.
So at this time of the year you can have
copious moisture that can feed into moving thunderstorms that if
they go over a certain terrain like the big Thompson
Canyon and they dumb a lot of water upstream, you

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can have these flooding events. And that's why I said
today is one of these events where we'll keep an
eye out for some flooding. We always watch the burn
scars like the Cameron Peak off to the west and
the Alexander Mountain. Those tend to be a little more susceptible,
so we'll monitor all that today. Overall, I don't think
it's a huge thread, but it is something worth watching,
just as a.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Point of order. Dave, the due point in Fort Myers,
Florida as today is seventy six degrees.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Dear Lord.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yes, I love Colorado because of our semi arid climate.
You know, I grew up in the northeast, you grew
up in the southeast. We all know what humidity a well,
when you've lived here for you know, as long as
I have and as long as you have, and you
get so comfortable with our environment and just how great
it is to be out and about and not have
to deal with that, and then you go back and
visit family and you step off the plane, it's like noo. Yeah,

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it hits you like a wall.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
In case you were wondering how that translates right now,
ninety three percent humidity in Fort Myers, Dave, ninety three.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
That's what we were yesterday morning. Yesterday morning at six am,
we have a ninety three percent humidity.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
It was gross. I walked my dog in it. It
was disgusting, all right, Dafras. One last question, Hi, Mandy.
Last night up in Wyoming, we had a severe thunderstorm
watch issued from like six pm to midnight. What's the
That's the latest this text could ever remember having a
watch issued. Is that out of the norm.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
It's not out of the norm, but it was a
little late that I was tracking those storms and watching
them too, because I was concerned late last night they
were kind of moving in an easterly direction, and I
was concerned that maybe they would take a southeasterly turn
and move into northern Colorado. We just had a situation
yesterday with the setup of the thick clouds and the
high humidity that the storms were. There was a lot

(25:43):
of outflow boundaries. Yesterday we talked about outflows that were
flying around and they were just triggering additional storms. And
once they get going, they take a little while because
they were slow movers. They did linger a little longer
last night. And by the way, the skies were electric. Yeah,
when we talk about those nighttime storms we talk about
nocturnal lightning. The skies were electric in Wyoming. They were

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electric out on the eastern planes for hours and hours,
almost continuous lighting. So it was just a set up
yesterday where the slow movement and the sun coming out
in some areas triggered pretty good storms and then the
outflows took over. We tracked when coming back to Denver
last night after eleven o'clock, and I was thinking, maybe
if our fingers crushed, we might be able to trigger
something along it. It never did. It just kind of

(26:25):
washed out as it got close to the city. So
I hopes today that we get the rain we need,
just watch out for that flooding possibility that I mentioned,
and then we'll get it dry as we head into
the weekend, and welcome in the month of August. On
Friday and end of that.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Dave Frasier, Fox thirty one's chief mediorologist, thanks for making
time for us again on weather Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
All right, take care many right every one day.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
We'll be right back. Okay, guys. I mentioned before or
Dave Frasier about the staggering numbers when it comes to
what's actually killing homeless people here in the Denver metro

(27:08):
in Colorado, and it drugs an alcohol overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly. And
there's an editorial in the Denver Gazette today that is
so full of common sense that it will never be
taken seriously. One of the things that I know is
that the mayor Mayor Mike Johnston, on this program, I

(27:31):
invited him to do a walk through of step Denver
with me because I've done a tour of step Denver
before and when you see how step Denver works, and
it's very interesting. I've never talked to an active member
going through an active you know man who's going through
treatment at steped Over, because every time I go, they're
all at work. Because when you come to step Denver

(27:53):
to get sober and have a place to live and
have the support that you need to get your life back,
one of the first things they make you do is
get a job. So the men are at work as
I'm doing this tour in stept Enver, and I asked
the mayor. I said, my Mayor Johnson, I'd love to.
I will arrange it. We can walk through together. It's
an amazing facility. You can see the power of treatment

(28:14):
based recovery, not just giving people a home and hoping
for the best. So in this editorial today, I want
to share part of it with you, not very much
of it. Colorado Mayor's philanthropic leaders and politicians at various
levels have the opportunity to address the state's escalating homelessness
crisis by leveraging President Donald Trump's executive order last week

(28:38):
titled Ending Crime and Disorder on America's Streets. The President's
directive empower cities and states to clear homeless encampments and
prioritize treatment for addiction and mental health issues, offering federal
funding to support these efforts. Colorado, with its disproportionately high
number of homeless and unsheltered individuals, must act decisively to

(28:59):
utilize the framework to restore public safety and provide meaningful,
compassionate help to those in need. The executive order redirects
federal resources to states and localities that enforce bans on
public camping, open drug use, and loitering, while prioritizing programs
requiring sobriety and treatment over the proven failure of the

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housing first model. It instructs agencies such as the Department
of Health and Human Services and Housing and Urban Development
to allocate grants to communities that align with these goals,
including support for involuntary civil commitment for individuals posing risks
to themselves or others. This funding shift incentivizes evidence based
treatment programs and insures resources are not squandered on ineffective

(29:44):
measures such as harm reduction or drug injection sites. The
order explicitly defunds those now just based on this what's
in this executive order. There is a huge opportunity here
because we don't have a robust mental health system, and

(30:04):
we certainly have a lot of treatment options because in
all honesty, most Knights Step Denver and the other Side
Academy they have open beds. What we don't have is
the will to force people into treatment. And before you
tell me you have get one treatment before it takes
the reality is that the statistics and studies have shown

(30:26):
that forced recovery is as effective as voluntary recovery. It
has the same failure rate. And here's the kicker about
Step Dever, their success rate at step Denver for people
a year after they leave the program is double the
national average. Double. Because they're not just giving somebody a

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place to live and hoping they ask for help. They're
forcing them to come to terms with the demons that
led them down that path in the first place. It
imbues them with a sense of personal responsibility. It gives
them their dignity back, and that, my friends, is what
we need to be doing. And if there's federal dollars

(31:06):
that can be got, I certainly hope Aurora is going
to be applying for some of these federal dollars because
they're building their giant homeless I don't want to say clearinghouse,
that's the wrong word. A navigation center thank you Navigation Center.
And it involves shelter first, not housing, shelter treatment, and

(31:29):
then moving people onto independence. That's exactly what the president
is wanting, and why not take advantage of it. Of course,
if we did that, then the entire homeless industrial complex
in here in Colorado would be upset. And we'll see
if people are more committed to getting people healthy and
helping them regain their lives, or if they're more committed

(31:50):
to protecting their friends who may be in that industrial complex.
Two hours and that guy over there is now Zach
seekers Hell. I was like, whoosh, I just waved my
magic wand and I turned Shannon into Zach. It's like

(32:13):
a revolving door over there. Good to see you, Zach.
Good to see you.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm supposed to have a guest right now, but he
is not logged on yet, and I'm going to kill
a little time in the hopes that he does, because
I'd like to talk to him about a big topic
and we're going to get to that in a moment.
But Zach, have you ever heard of the movie k
Pop Demon Hunters? Are you familiar?

Speaker 7 (32:34):
I saw it on Netflix the other day when I
was looking for something to watch with my girlfriend, and
I think we both cracked a joke about it.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I will tell you I watched it because I have
a sixteen year old daughter, And when your sixteen year
old daughter, who may or may not like you at
any given moments, says hey, you want to watch this
movie with me, You're like, yes, yes, I do, And
so we did shockingly good. The first five minutes is
ten minutes pretty vapid, but then gets a little depth.

(33:00):
That's an animated feature about a K pop band that
also happens to be Demon Hunters and they're fighting a
male K pop band who are demons, so you can
only imagine the mayhem that ensues. But there's a lot
of like Korean mysticism in it that's very very cool.
And apparently it's one of Netflix's biggest hits. Wow, that's interesting.

(33:21):
I know, well, I mean, K pop is huge. That
makes sense. Don't say it out loud. I made the
mistake once once on Twitter of referencing a K pop band.
Never again. I didn't even act, I didn't even hashtag.

(33:41):
I just referenced a K pop band and their army
attacked me. Not attacked me, but they were like oh
my god, we love them so much. It was literally like,
oh my god, why don't you love them? Oh my god,
you should love them. I'm like, God, there's the baths.
I mean, it was like insane and it went on
for like three days. Stands are passionate. It's like a competition. Yes,
never again. I will never mention them by name on

(34:03):
the air ever, because it's it's, you know, going nowhere
fast kind of thing. I do want to talk a
little bit about a column in the Denver Gazette and
it was written by Mark Hillman. And Mark Hillman, of course,
has been around for a long time in politics. He
was in the legislature. And why can't I get to

(34:27):
the actual story Denver Gazette, you're just giving me the
hear it is okay, let's hang on, let me let me.
I have some frustrations with the way that Denver Gazette
works or doesn't work on occasion, and this is one
of them, because I think they want me to log in,

(34:49):
but there's no place to log in even though I'm
a subscriber, and it's just not bringing Let me see
if I can go to my phone. That's how I'm
why I can't because oh jeez, anyway, I'll come back
to that story because I can't pull it up. No,
I can do enough of it. It's an editorial about
our roads. Now. When I talk to Republicans who are

(35:10):
the sorts of Republicans who might be thinking of running
for an office in Colorado, I keep telling them the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
You need to.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Make roads a part of your platform, and not just
that our roads suck and we're going to fix them.
You need to place the blame exactly where it should go,
and that is on the Democrats running Sea Dot and
the governor and all of the people in the legislature
who keep raiding our transportation dollars to pay for other
crap from the column. In twenty twenty one, the Democrat

(35:41):
controlled legislature passed a five point four billion dollar package
of new fees, including a yearly increase in fuel taxes
plus that irritating twenty nine cent charge only Colorado's pay
on orders from Amazon, to boost the transportation budget. The
problem is most of that money isn't spent to build

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or repair our highways. The state now takes transportation related
fees and directs them towards environmental mitigation, mass transit, and
demand management efforts rather than infrastructure. According to a study
by the Common Sense Institute that pierced the thick veil
of obfuscation that is Colorado's transportation budget. Bottom line, we

(36:24):
pay more for fuel, license plates, home delivery, and ride sharing,
but the Colorado Transportation Commission uses that money to try
and convince us to drive less or ride buses, trains
or bicycles, while they make driving in Colorado a miserable experience.
And I want to ask you guys this from a
purely political perspective, because I really I think this has legs.

(36:47):
Do you think it would be a good campaign platform issue?
And I mean a big one, Like okay, I think
that the most successful candidates focus on a map maximum
of like three things, right, just three things that people
can easily understand, that you can actually do something about

(37:09):
and that you can focus on that feels real to people.
And transportation has got to be at the top of
that list. And you can't just say our roads are terrible.
You have to explain why they're terrible. Because we have
a se DOT director who, by the way, before not
really having any decent transportation experience, was given the office
because shared polis knew that he needed fundraising when he

(37:32):
runs for president, and her dad is Jack glu former
Treasury secretary and big muckety muck in the Democratic Party.
That's my theory, and until you prove me wrong, I'm
going with it. It's like this. The governor doesn't want
us to drive, the director of Sea Dot doesn't want
us to drive. The Democrats in the legislature don't want

(37:52):
us to drive. So in order to do that, they
make driving so miserable, so absolutely miserable, that we're going to,
in their minds, beg to be in mass transit, when
in reality most of us are just going to be
angry the entire time. So whatever Republican comes out and

(38:14):
decides to run for governor, please, for the love of God,
I want you to make this part of the platform.
And this is I'm going to fix the roads that
Democrats refuse to fix. And that's how you have to
say it, because there's no doubt in my mind that
people know exactly how bad their roads are. And forget
about I mean they're bad enough in the city areas.

(38:36):
Wait until you get out of the rural parts. Have
you driven ized seventy headed towards Kansas. It's like the
place has been bombed. It's absolutely insane. But we get
to live here.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm okay paying that twenty nine cents so we don't
have to live in Arkansas, Ohio. Lol. The privilege is
wearing off the privilege of living in Colorado. And don't
get me wrong, I have loved my time in Colorado.
I love the climate. I love being able to wake
up on the weekends and go to one of the

(39:12):
most beautiful hiking places in the world, and there's a
million of them. There are great things about Colorado. But
at some point it just gets to be enough. And
we're seeing that now far fewer people are moving to
Colorado and more people are moving out of Colorado. Mandy.
I want them to expand roads and trains. Honestly, I
don't see them doing great at either. Why do we

(39:33):
want to? Okay, let's talk about trains for a minute.
Everybody loves the idea of a train, right, Everybody loves
the notion of taking light reel. And if you are
on vacation and you are staying in downtown Denver and
you want to go somewhere south or east or west
and you can hop on the train and wherever you're

(39:54):
going is right there at the destination at the train station.
That's great, But for practical daily life living, our mass
transit system is absolutely horrible. It's horrible when you're in
New York City and you have to go from the
top of Manhattan down to the lower part by the
Brooklyn Bridge. You got to make that track. If you

(40:15):
get into a car, it's going to take you way
longer than if you hop on an express train on
the subway. And then you can actually get out of
the subway and they have a bus system that'll take
you pretty much wherever you need to go from there,
and they run every fifteen minutes, and there's a ton
of them. We don't have that. We don't have the
money to build it, we don't have the money to

(40:36):
make it run while no one's riding it, and we
don't have the culture of doing that right New York City,
you take public transportation where you're there, because that's what
New York cous do right. Parking is ungodly expensive in
New York. It's insane. A parking space in New York
can cost you a couple grand a month a month.

(41:00):
Is that what we want? Because that's where we're headed. So,
you know, these are the kind of things that I
want to talk about and I want to discuss, and
I want Republicans to start focusing on because any social
issue as a loser. Although I don't think any of
the people that may be running for governor are necessarily
social issue people, well let me take that back. There's

(41:20):
a few that are social issue people. I don't think
they have a really great chance of being governor or
even winning the nomination. But we've got to focus on
the things that are hurting people's quality of lives. And
here's what I would focus on. My three issues that
I would run for governor on if I was going
to run for governor. And know, I'm not going to

(41:40):
run for governor. You know, I don't want to be governor.
What a miserable job that must be lots of nonsense
and problems and ugh, just sounds awful. But nonetheless, if
I were going to run for governor, my entire platform
would be Number one, I'm going to fix the roads
that the Democrats refuse to fix. That's plank number one.
Plank number two, I am going to expand treatment options.

(42:05):
I am going to make sure that we have mental
health supports using federal dollars that are being offered by
the President. And I am going to clean up the
streets of Colorado, not just in Denver, in every community
that has urban outdoorsmen that are creating problems and raising
hell and creating havoc. I am going to clean up
every city because I'm going to get people who are

(42:26):
addicted to drugs and alcohol, who are suffering for mental illness,
and I'm going to get them into treatment whether they
like it or not. That's plank number two. And plank
number three is I am going to ask the legislature
to evaluate every regulation that they have passed in the
last ten years, and if they are not doing exactly
what the legislature set out to do, we are going

(42:46):
to see if we can repeal them, because we need
to increase our business environment so people want to do
business here again, because right now it's not necessarily happening.
We went from one of the friendliest business climates in
the country when I moved here in twenty thirteen, and
we've seen it slowly eroad to where we're now like
middle of the pack. Is middle of the pack. What

(43:08):
you want to brag about, No, Dave Logan for Dictator,
I think not. That's scaly Weggs that I cheated it
of the day, Mandy. At this point, I'm rooting for
the Democrats to succeed because I believe the only way
to turn it around is if it gets so horribly bad.
You know what. I understand that sentiment, and I have
expressed that sentiment in the past, But the reality is

(43:32):
that once in an urban center, and we're gonna look
at Denver as this you know engine, right like it
or not. Denver is a huge part of the engine
of Colorado and the Denver metro area. So you're including Boulder,
you're including Douglas County, you're including the Aurora area, all
of this together. And when an urban center collapses for

(43:53):
whatever reason. You look at Detroit, Michigan, they collapse because
all of the automakers just got to roll up and said, no,
we're not going to do this anymore. It has taken
decades for Detroit to begin to come back. They're finally
starting to move forward. In Detroit, it's starting to get
vibrant again. Because everything got so cheap that now you

(44:13):
could go and buy a house for a dollar, and
I'm not kidding. I know someone he bought a house
in Detroit for a dollar. You can't do that anymore.
But it's taken decades for them to recover. And I
think it's it's like easy to say they get what
they deserve. It's kind of like watching what's going on
right now in New York City. You've got a guy

(44:33):
running for theyre who by the way, polling data shows
him running away with it. This guy was brought up
an incredible privilege, but he plays poor on TV. He
eats with his hands well well you know, and not
like a sandwich. He's eating rice with his hands to

(44:53):
I don't know, show what a man of the people
he is. Unfortunately, while a gunman walked into a building
this week and shot a bunch of people, he was
actually celebrating his recent wedding, so he was out of
the country, you know where. He was at his family's
private compound in Uganda for a three day wedding celebration.
Nothing says I'm just like you more than a three

(45:16):
day wedding celebration in your parents private compound in Uganda.
I mean you guys. Part of me says, I hope
New York gets what it wants. I hope they get
a socialist mayor. I hope that he does all of
these Asenine Kakamami things that he says he wants to do.

(45:36):
I hope he does all of them, because that's what
they deserve. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said,
you get the government. Yeah, you get the government you deserve.
But at the same time, do we really want to
creator the whole thing or do we want to try
and fix it Mandy Denver City Council's reviewing decreasing the
parking requirements for housing at the next meeting. Of course

(45:59):
they are. Of course they are because they don't want
you to have a place to park. Now, if I
am an apartment complex, if I am a condo that
I'm building, you better Dan well believe I'm putting parking there.
I don't care how much it adds to the price,
because people are still going to want their cars, whether

(46:19):
or not the Denversity Council thinks they will. People still
want their cars. A vast majority of the people who
regularly ride public transportation. I bet you if you asked
each of them, if they're on public transport every day,
would you rather ride the bus or would you rather
be in a car? I bet you a vast majority.
And let's say, well, I'd rather have a car because

(46:41):
just the time commitment. Do you know why rich people
don't take public transportation because their time is valuable? You
know that people on public transportation their time isn't valuable
enough yet, so they're on public transport. Now, there are
people with disabilities and things like that they use public transport,
and of course I'm not talking about them, but the

(47:01):
reality is is that most people are not on public
transport in Denver because they want to be sure. There's
some people who probably use the train because they love
the idea and they don't want to deal with parking.
But at a certain point is being on the train
an hour and a half when you can be in
your car forty minutes going to be a good return
on investment kind of thing about the trains really quick.

(47:25):
Somebody asked about the trains earlier, and I said, I
was going to say something about that lightrail does not
ever do what they say it's going to do when
they sell it to the voters. It never has it
never will. Now there is a privately owned light rail
in South Florida. It takes people. I don't know how
far it goes. I know it goes from West Palm

(47:45):
Beach to Miami. And it was built by a private
company and they do things like surge pricing. So if
you want to use it to go from West Palm
Beach to Miami, depending on when you buy your ticket,
you could pay twenty bucks, you could pay forty five dollars.
But you know, it's a private industry and they're making
it work, and yet the taxpayers are supposed to just

(48:06):
keep getting soaked by mass transit. For the amount of
money that we spend on mass transit, we could buy
most of these people cars. I really believe that it's
an absolute boondoggle. And instead of building more trains and
actually we could take the little you know. I said
this yesterday on the air because I saw it yesterday.

(48:27):
So the train that goes all the way down to
RidgeGate most of the time now it has two cars
on it. It looks like something you would play with
as a child. We should take all of those trains
off and put buses on those railways. Flatten them out
high speed buses. You can add more buses when you
need them. You can take more buses away very very easily.
Because guess what now, if you go to a concert

(48:50):
in downtown Denver and you take the light rail down there,
there's a really good chance that you're not going to
be able to get a train home. Why is that
ever going to work? If RTD can't be bothered to
look at big events schedules and say, hey, you know what,
there's a concert that night, maybe we should throw a
few more trains on so they run every fifteen minutes
instead of once an hour. If they're not willing to

(49:11):
do that, then why am I supposed to be the
one that's like, you know what, I'll just take lightrail
down there and pay eighty five bucks for Uber to
get me home. At some point it has to make
some sense for someone, and right now it doesn't seem
to make sense for anyone at all anyway, Mandy, These

(49:31):
are from the Common Spirit Health text line. Another plus
for light rail getting secondhand met smoke so you don't
have to buy your own. See, I actually forgot about that, Texter.
I thank you for reminding me that should be part
of their new marketing scheme. This texter said, I just
want the option not to drive or to take a
train to a concert and also be able to get home,

(49:52):
unlike a few weeks ago when the train stopped running
at ten. And that is my point right there. Mandy,
watch Evan and Keith. I love Evan and Keith, and
I'm still mad that their show was canceled on HGTV.
Their House Flippers in Detroit. The early years show them
buying houses for five hundred bucks and making them amazing,
then they sell them for thirty k. Now their shows

(50:13):
moved out of Detroit because Detroit is making a comeback. Well,
they wanted to move to New Orleans. That's why you
guys have follow them on social media. And I know
way too much about Evan and Keith. I think they're
adorable and I'm super mad about that. Anyway, Mandy, your
platform is spot on. I live in the Springs and
need my car to travel to the Denver Metro for
Rockies games. The DCPA also stay away from any abortion planks.

(50:36):
It's a loser. I agree. No Republicans should be talking
about abortion in Colorado because in this state it is
an absolute loser topic. The pro life movement in Colorado
needs to pivot completely, stop trying to pass laws, and
start helping pregnant women. So maybe we won't need abortions

(50:56):
because right now the elector in Colorado we're having none
of that, none of it at all. We'll be back
joining me now. The author of the Irrational Fear substack

(51:17):
doctor Matthew Willicky. He is an earth science professor in exile.
As he says, and he covers all of the news
about climate science and so much other stuff on his substack.
I highly recommend it. It is one of the ones that
I subscribe to, and I'd love for you to do
the same. Today we're talking something big. First of all, Matthew,
welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Thanks Andy, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
This is kind of huge what's happening right now at
the EPA. And I'm gonna let you lay out what
the EPA did yesterday and then we'll get into the
long term impacts of this. But this is I think
it's like a lead story of the day kind of thing,
and it is flying under the radar in the news.
So what did the EPA do.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
So under the direction of League Zelden, the director of
the EPA. They have taken the first steps of overturning
what is essentially the foundational keystone for the entire foundation
for keeping climate regulation going. This was a rule that
started under the Obama administration. It actually started in two

(52:23):
thousand and eight, but was finalized in two thousand and nine,
So it's kind of taken this the nomenclature of the
two thousand and nine in daygerment finding. And what the
EPA did was they used the Chevron Doctrine, which allowed
these three letter agencies to kind of reinterpret the laws
if the if Congress wasn't very specific. So what they
did was they reinterpreted the Clean Air Act, that is

(52:47):
meant to regulate pollutants in the air that we all
support and I think everybody thinks has been a pretty
beneficial thing. They interpreted that Act to also include greenhouse.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Gases like CO two.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
And they speak to you right now, I'm exhaling forty
thousand parts per million of CO two. That's about one
hundred times that's right, about one hundred times of what's
in the atmosphere. But just recently this year, the Chevron
Doctrine was struck down because of a case in dealing
with fishermen.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
In New England.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
And so the EPA now is really starting to step back.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
And say, wait, do we really have.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
The scientific basis to identify something as CO two one
of the major gases that allows life to exist? If
not the major gas that allows life to exist? Are
we going to do we have the basis to regard
that as a pollutant. Let's go back and take a
look at this, because if we don't really have the
foundational scientific basis to consider this a pollutant, then we

(53:46):
don't have the foundation to regulate, we don't have all
of the rules that have been put into place to
reduce CO two emissions kind of start to go out
the window. So this is a huge decision. It's going
to be fought in the courts, but this is the
first step we really dismantling the climatehouse of cards.

Speaker 7 (54:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I started reading the report this morning. I didn't have
time to read the whole thing, but they specifically attack
some of the scientific underpinnings of that endangerment finding, and
some of them were really kind of pathetic. I mean,
just on cursory review, the science that led to that

(54:23):
endangerment finding is sort of absurd some of it. Again,
I haven't read the whole thing. What are your thoughts
on the way that they are explaining this decision.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
I guess it's completely unscientific. It's perfect for legal doctrine
because it uses all these very loose legal words could be,
might include possibility of it. But it basically throws away
all of the actual uncertainty in science, which is what
snakes science very unique and interesting, is because we always

(54:56):
get things wrong and we always kind.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Of work closer to the truth.

Speaker 6 (54:59):
It throws all of that uncertainty out, and it basically
just makes the decision that it puts the flag on
the mountain that says CO two is to blame, and
we can ignore everything else. We don't have to worry
about any sort of benefits that CO two may provide us.
We're just going to focus on reducing CO two. And
it's clear that in the new findings and the new

(55:21):
DOE report that also came out yesterday, this is going
to be the basis for getting rid of the endangerment finding.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
The Department of Energy came out with a new climate.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Report yesterday and it really puts questions a lot of this.
The societal impact of the CO two that the Ngagement
Finding assumes is significantly more than what we're finding it
actually CO two costs something like an order of magnitude.
So they expected all of these negative impacts to happen,
all this extreme weather and all these other events, but

(55:52):
those just aren't.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Coming to fruition.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
And so they overestimated this significant cost of CO two
and they use that as justification to regulate all of
these industries, and we're finding that those costs just aren't
coming out.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Well. One of the biggest industries that's been affected by
this rulemaking is the auto industry. And the auto industry
has been told you must sell x amount of cars
that are electric, even though consumers don't want to buy
electric cars. Right, we had a quick uptake of early
adopters people that we're excited to buy electric cars. That
is over and the numbers are terrible, and our auto

(56:27):
industry is losing billions of dollars with these cars that
nobody wants to buy. So what does this mean for them?

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Yeah, this is I mean, this is the this is
the underpinning for all of those types of mandates, all
of the incentives for green energy that really are all
underpinned by the idea that if we.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Don't lower CO two, we're going to pay a big.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Cost as a society, and that's where it's it's a
danger to the health and environment of the public. So
that's why it was found as dangement. But if that's
not the case, and we have all this data. This
came out in two thousand and nine, Now we have
sixteen years of extra data that we can put on
top of this, and it's clear that they were completely
overestimating what was.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Going to happen.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
And if you don't really have all of these negative impacts,
then what are we doing all of these mandates for
Why are we doing all of these tax incentives?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
This cost taxpayers.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
Money, and this is money that could be going to
a lot of other places to do a lot of good. Right,
it was sold is this is going to be some
benefit by lowering CO two.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
It's clear that's not the case. Now we're just really
just throwing money out the drain.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
You know, yesterday matthew I talked about the fact that
China actually funds a lot of the green organizations here
in the United States, and at the same time China,
which is funding green organization, saying carbon, you know, carbon
has to be brought down, and fossil fuels are bad.
They're building, you know, four hundred and fifty coal mines
right now. They're production of coal fired power plants is

(57:55):
at the highest that it's been in ten years. What
do they know that we don't know.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
They know that the future is energy intensive, and that's
going to be whether it's manufacturing AI data centers, the
future is energy intensive.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
You need all hands on deck.

Speaker 6 (58:12):
You build solar, you build some wind where it's necessary,
but you keep going with all of your other baseload infrastructure.
China's also building the most nuclear energy out of any
nation currently, so they're going to be basically building our
solar panels from their nuclear power plants and then selling
them back to us at an inflated cost. Because we've

(58:33):
thought that that would be our future, we really need
to have all hands on deck. I think solar and
wind could be part of the solution, but we can't
forget that we get something like seventy eight percent of
our baseload power, which is the underlying power that we
consistently produce from fossil fuels and from nuclear energy, and
that really has to be the primary focus. It seems
like that's where the Department of Energy and Secretary right

(58:55):
are kind of pushing the country at the moment.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
So, last question, you said, this is going to be
held up the courts. Who's going to sue on what grounds?
And do they have a case to make in if
this ever goes to the court room.

Speaker 6 (59:07):
So climate law fare is the new weapon of choice
from these green technology groups and these green environmentals groups.
They really see that if this underpinning disappears, their.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Funding will dry up.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
And so there is a big push right now, and
I think a lot of lawyers are getting involved to
try to find any legal loophole to try to skirt
around this and keep this endangerment finding in place, because
it's really built up an entire I call it the
climate industrial complex, and there's a huge industry that now
is really supported by this one finding. And so I

(59:43):
think you're going to see a lot of fighting in
the legal system, but the science really supports that we
get rid of the finding.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
So, and that was going to be my next question.
So is it feasible that a judge is going to
make a decision about whether or not carbon dioxide is
should be you know, should get that endangerment finding.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
No, I think that what he would have to do
is kick it back to Congress, or she would have
to do, is kick it back to Congress and to
make sure that Congress specifically puts.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
In the Clean Air Act and.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Has an amendment in there that states greenhouse gases and
specifically which ones, because the Chevron doctrine really says that
these EPA and these other three letter agencies can't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Do that anymore. The judges aren't supposed to do that anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
What they're supposed to do is kick it back to
Congress and make Congress be very specific about what's considered
a pollutant, which I'm all for because we can we
can kick our politicians out, but it's a lot harder
to kick out these career bureaucrats and career judges. And
so if we kick it back to Congress and we
make those people while they're exhaling forty thousand ppm of

(01:00:50):
CO two stand up there and say that CO two
is a pollutant, I think that will be really where we.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Have to go with this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
You know what, I you know, whether or not you
believe in God. It doesn't really matter or how you
think the Earth, God here, whatever it is. One thing
we do know is that every living thing on this
planet exudes CO two in form some form. To think
that it is now going to be poison for the
very planet that we've been inhabiting since the beginning of
time is absurd. I mean it just it's laughable, and

(01:01:20):
yet here we are. Doctor Matthew Willicky's substack Irrational Fear
is excellent. I put a link to it today on
the blog. Good to see you again, Matt. We'll talk
to you again soon. Thanks manby, all right, thank you, sir.
We'll be right back. Very snappy video that's someone who

(01:01:48):
uses the handle at Denver Visitor made with AI about
the do Better den voter scandal, and yours truly is
depicted in this video. And I am the cutest little
cart character you've ever seen. So I want you to
go watch that just because I look so good and
it even though it's not really me anyway, I got
to talk about this for a moment because Representative Ron Weinberg,

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he is a Republican and he has really you know, well,
he's ticked off a few people quite a few people.
As a matter of fact, he has been accused by
other Republicans of being gross. And by being gross, I

(01:02:34):
mean this he apparently has said some extremely vile things
two women, female legislators and others. So listen to this
little snippet from the Denver Posts. And by the way,
I'm using the Denver Post for this because this is
what journalists should do. Hold people in power accountable, you know.

(01:02:58):
Amy Parks asked Ron Weinberg about allegations she had heard
about him sexually harassing women at a prominent conservative leadership
event earlier that year. Amy Parks is the longtime partner
of Representative Hugh McKean. He was in leadership before he
died of a heart attack fairly recently in November of

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twenty twenty two. She was his longtime partner, so she
called up Ron Weinberg because he expressed interest in taking
that leadership position. So she asked Weinberg about those allegations,
and Weinberg denied the allegations, Parks said, and the two
talked about the Loveland based House seat that Weinberg had
been appointed to fulfill as the successor to McKean. The

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late House minority leader. He had beaten three candidates for
the vacancy Committee's appointment, and Parks had nominated one of
the other contenders, Christy Hall, and she said she told
Weinberg in the call that he needed to improve his
behavior or he risked losing his next election. According to Parkes,
Weinberg replied that if Hall challenged him again, he would

(01:04:00):
click her in the and then he used a word
for female genitalia, the same word that Donald Trump used
to talk about grabbing a woman by taken aback. Parks
told him that sounded trumpy. Weinberg responded, Trump uses his hands,
I use my feet. This is just one of many examples.

(01:04:24):
And this is not some vast left wing conspiracy. These
are Republican women coming forward and saying this dude does
not need to be in any kind of leadership position.
He sounds like a real winner, I mean a real winner.
And the reason I bring it up is because I
fully expect Republicans to take these things seriously. I fully

(01:04:45):
respect republic I expect Republicans to be people of decent character.
I don't expect perfect people. That's ridiculous. There are no
perfect people, even me. I know that's shocking. Chuck can
probably give you a list of ways that I am
not perfect. I think he keeps one a little notebook.
I'm not sure, but I think he does. But that

(01:05:08):
being said, how about just being decent? How about just
not being wildly offensive. Three women also accused Weinberg of
making sexually inappropriate comments at the leadership program of the
Rockies events in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two.
He was also in leadership of the Larimer County GOP

(01:05:28):
before he was appointed to the House. Representative Brandy Bradley
has said that Ron Weinberg has made inappropriate remarks as
a legislator. She actually went so far as to file
a complaint with House Speaker Julie mcluskey on Friday, accusing
Weinberg of copying a master key to doors in the Capitol.
In January, McCluskey wrote to the house's top republican that

(01:05:51):
how staff had investigated Weinberg for accessing another lawmaker's office
without her permission. What the heck, you guys, I certainly
hope that somebody is going to primary this guy. He's
another recess appoint or not recess appointment. He's another they
can see committee appointments. It needs to go, and this

(01:06:12):
time he's on our side. But I certainly hope that
Republicans will not rally around him, but rally around the
notion that you can be in the legislature and yet
still be a decent human being. And by the way,
he's married. What the heck is his wife doing?

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Ugh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Zach seekers in for Anthony Rodriguez, who is providing incredible
social media content from training camp. If you're not following
us on X or Facebook or Instagram, you're missing out
on a lot of behind the scene. Have you had
the chance to go out there, Zach? Yeah, I've been
out there almost every day. So since it's pretty cool,
isn't it. It's cool. That's very cool to go to

(01:07:06):
training camp. I want to hit back on something that
you guys didn't even know was a question. When I
was talking about RTD and light rail and all of
that stuff, somebody texted in and said, let me see
if I can find it. Very very quickly, they said,
I once heard lightrail loses seven dollars on each rider?
Is that true? So, because I'm doing a show and

(01:07:29):
I don't have time to do it myself, I went
to Grock and I said, Grock, how much money does
light rail lose per passenger in Denver, Colorado? Rock thought,
for nine minutes and forty one seconds. That's a long
time dug through all kinds of information. And this is
what Grock says. The calculation that they used, by the
way represents the net operating loss operating expenses minus fare

(01:07:51):
revenues divided by the number of unlinked passenger trips, which
is a standard measure of subsidy or loss per passenger
in transit reping. Okay, so that's where they got the numbers.
These are standard numbers. Listen to this. First of all,
light rail had eight million, eighty four thousand, three hundred

(01:08:11):
and twenty six unlinked passenger trips, and I'm not clear
on what unlinked means. We'll get back to that in
a moment. They brought in fair revenues of eleven million,
nine hundred and eighty one thousand, nine hundred and forty
two dollars. I don't know how those two things match up,
because it cost me way more than a buck forty
five to get on light rail. But whatever, I mean,

(01:08:33):
people do whatever they're going to do. They're operating expenses
Are you ready for this? On revenues of eleven almost
twelve million, I'll round up. I'll be generous, right, They're
operating cost on revenues of twelve million dollars are one
hundred and sixty one million, three hundred and eighty eight thousand,

(01:08:53):
seven hundred and fifty seven. Every single ride is a
net law of approximately eighteen dollars and forty nine cents
per passenger, according to Kroc, I mean, anyway, just thought
i'd fill your heads with that fun fact. Anyway, So,

(01:09:17):
El Paso County has now joined Elbert County in telling
Xcel Energy no. And what are they telling XL Energy about? Well,
they're certainly not talking XL Energy about providing you know,
energy for people in El Paso or Elbert counties because
Xcel Energy doesn't serve El Paso or Albert counties. What

(01:09:40):
are they saying no about? XL Energy has a new
massive power line project that is intended to connect the
wind and solar energy generated on the Eastern Plains to
Metro Denver area communities. The billion dollar plus project is
an important element of Governor Police's ambitious one hundred percent

(01:10:04):
renewable energy mandate for the state, except XL Energy has
offered nothing to Elpaso County, nothing to Elbert County, nothing,
literally nothing. These power lines, and you know the ginormous
power lines. You know what I'm talking about. They're gonna
cut through people's farms. They're gonna cut through wildlife areas,

(01:10:25):
which I actually don't think is that big a deal.
Wildlife don't care. They really don't care about things like
oil wells or power lines. They just they don't care.
But that being said, what is the incentive? Why would
these counties give XL permission to just roll through their

(01:10:45):
counties however they wanted. By the way, there was another
route for these power lines that was a lot longer
that XL was like, No, we're not doing that. We
don't want to do that, we want to do the
shorter one through the counties. To get no benefit from
us doing this at all. Is already filed imminent domain
claims on some of the areas. This is going to
be a nasty, nasty fight, a super nasty fight, and

(01:11:13):
ultimately I'm going to be watching this because we all know,
if you've ever driven out onto the Eastern Plains, you
see those giant you know wind turbines out there spinning, Well,
they can't get the power back to Denver apparently, and
XL just seems to think they're gonna steamroll over these
two counties. And I'm guessing, what the help of the governor,

(01:11:35):
they're pretty confident they're going to be able to do that.
It's going to be really interesting to watch how this
all pans out. Mandy, So are public roads, but that
doesn't mean we shouldn't have them. I'm not sure what
you're saying there. Public roads do not cost nearly well,

(01:11:56):
especially in Colorado, because they just don't maintain them. When
you build road and then you just let it rot,
it doesn't cost very much at all, super cheap, and
the usage on a public road is far beyond anything
that you're gonna see on light rail anytime. Is just
not even close in terms of the number of cars
using a public roadway. Your your cost benefit analysis on

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that is always going to be a million times better.
So let me ask this text for a question. If
losing eighteen dollars per rider is okay with you, how
high does that number go? What if it's fifty dollars
per rider? What if it's one hundred dollars per rider.
What's the cutoff for you? I mean, as we're nearing
twenty bucks per rider, shouldn't we be thinking about options

(01:12:42):
that could be a little more efficient. I'm just curious, Mandy.
They should get free power. I agree, Mandy. I've always
wondered what the locals get from all these big wind
and solar farms. If you own the land, it's kind
of like you you don't get it the same way
that people who allow an oil rig on their property.

(01:13:05):
You know you're getting royalties then, but you do get
some kind of payment, and I think that's a big
part of it. When I first moved out here, I
had never seen the giant wind farms, right, So I
told Chuck, I said, okay, we have to drive. We're
going to drive to one of these giant wind farms.
And I want to get out of the car and
I want to see what these giant turbines sound like.

(01:13:25):
And they're really loud. I had no idea, and that's
one of those repetitive noises that would make me absolutely insane.
I could never live near a giant wind turbine. And
it's just a woof, woof, woof over it aha, ah, Mandy,

(01:13:46):
Remember all active duty military members and veterans and dependents
write RTD for free. I did not know that. Huh,
so I can ride RTD for free. I still think
it's a dumb idea, but now that I can get
it for free, sorry, I'll stop talking about it. Just kidding.
I will not stop talking about it because it's a massive,
idiotic boondoggle that we need to finally put a fork in.

(01:14:09):
It's not a good thing, and it's never going to
be a good thing. He'll have no fury like scorned
Elbertaurel Passo. Good old boy Excel is indeed up for
a fight, and I my friends am in the front
row for it. Proler at it again. I wish I

(01:14:37):
had a picture of Zach's face just then trying to
figure out what exactly went wrong. Uh yeah, anyway, Okay,
I've got a lot of stuff on the blog today.
I mean a lot of stuff on the blog today.
Of course. Is you know, they're in the business of
making beer. Apparently they are branching out and I can't

(01:15:00):
tell if this is just a snappy marketing campaign or
if they're in this for the long haul, but they're
making deodorant now, just in case you're worried they're gonna
smell like stinky beer, You're not. It smells like the
breeze of the Rocky Mountains. According to this press release,
Oh it's limited edition. Yes, it is a limited edition,

(01:15:22):
smells like the breeze of the Rocky Mountains and must
be refrigerated before it can be properly applied, with the
packaging mimicking the beer's signature mountains turning blue when reaching
the ideal cold temperature. Now, I don't know how I
feel about cold deodorant, Like I'm thinking about that. That
would be a little shocking, don't you think, like, whoa, hey,

(01:15:42):
that's a little cold. I can't hear you, Zach, But
in an ice cube there sounds miserable. Yeah, it does.
I mean like putting cold deodor I mean maybe if
you're hot and you're sweaty and you just want to
slap it on.

Speaker 7 (01:15:58):
What are you putting the deodorant on before and not
immediately after?

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Wait a minute before you sweat or what like?

Speaker 7 (01:16:06):
If you're that you put it on at the beginning
of your day. It's not like, oh my god, I'm
so hot and sweaty. Now I now need to put
on my ice cold deodorant to cool off.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Wait a minute, what if? What if I'm gonna throw
this one out? Okay, So you get off work, you
go to the gym, you work out, you forget, you
have plans, You run home, You do the shower in
the sync kind of thing. Little splash splash, splash splash.
You're still kind of sweaty. You slap on your freezing
cold deodorant and your little armpits freeze up. I don't

(01:16:37):
know if this is I mean, you know, sometimes brand
partnerships make a lot of sense to me, right, you know,
when you have a movie coming out and a fast
mood joint jumps on board and has all the you know,
all the stuff to go along with, that makes perfect
sense to me. I don't know who was the person
at cores this sat in a meeting and said, you
know what we need to do for beer sales deodorant

(01:16:59):
that I was in the fridge, and then everybody else
was like, yes, great idea. Course hasn't done the blue
bottle thing for a few years. I think, well there
can I guess there can still turns blue. I don't
know I know this is blasphemy, but I'm not a
big course drinker. Like I've never really been a huge
course fan. I just prefer I left college. I don't

(01:17:23):
even think I drank it in college. And when I
was in college, it was bud light, it was natty
light occasionally. That was during I was in college when
the ice spears started coming out, so there was like
a dabbling with the ice spears for a moment. And
then when I was a sophomore in college, Corona stormed

(01:17:43):
the nation and everybody was drinking Corona, and I was like, well,
that's too expensive. It was like three dollars. I could
get a bud Light for a bouk fifty. I was
at the super Bowl. At Super Bowl where ray Lewis
did not kill those people. I was at the club
where ray Lewis did not kill those people. And I
was in the VIP room of the club where ray
Lewis did not kill those people because my brother was

(01:18:04):
the general manager of it. Good night of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
I left. I left it like I was doing a
morning show at the time, a sports morning show. I
left the club at like one point thirty and all
that went down after I left, and it wasn't in
the club, it was outside the club. But nonetheless, I'm
in the VIP section with all these people from ESPN
and Jrome Bettis, and I mean, like it was crazy.
And I meet Aggie Busch, the fourth from the Bush family,

(01:18:31):
and I'm having a martini and Aggie Bush has his
bud light there and he goes, well, why are you
drinking a martini? I said, because I can get a
bud light for a book fifty or even for free.
I can't always get a martini for free. And he
was like, that's a fair point. Wait. Yeah, like when
somebody when I'm drinking of my brother's dime, you better
believe I'm having top shelf. Not that anyway. I just

(01:18:52):
I'm curious about this. If anybody works a course and
can give me some backstory here, that'd be great. I mean,
it can't just be because the mountains termed blue, right,
I mean can't That can't be the only reason, right, right,
Mandy that eighteen dollars is low. The RTD report says
twenty one to eighty two. That may be a newer

(01:19:15):
set of data. That data that Rock grab was from
twenty twenty three. So there you go Core's light is
only good with tomato juice, you guys, I cannot do
the beer and tomato juice thing. Canadians love that. And
every time I say and I love a bloody Mary,
I do. I enjoy a bloody Caesar with clemato, I'm

(01:19:37):
not afraid. So I put tomato juice and a cocktail.
I just cannot do it in beer. I've tried, and
I just don't. It's one are those things where I
tried it and I'm like, why would anyone try that? Twice?

(01:19:58):
A fantastic event if I do say so myself and
give a lot of credit to Douglas County citizenry. I
had the chance to meet Weld County Commissioner Scott James,
and today I'm having him on the show, not as
Weld County Commissioner, even though he is, but we're going
to talk about something that he writes about on his
blog site, which is amazing and I don't know how

(01:20:20):
I didn't know about it until now, but now I'm
signed up for the Scott Report that's going to hit
my mailbox every day by five am. But first of all, Scott,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Thank you man. It's a pleasure, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
So let's talk about why we're here, and that is
the Dignity Act. Now, I've been really open with my
audience and I just said this to you off the air.
I was just vehemently opposed to the immigration reform that
was proposed by the Gang of Eight in two thousand
and eight because we had no border security. I knew
it was going to be another amnesty and we were
going to just invite millions and millions of people to
come after that. This is a much different situation that

(01:20:55):
we're in right now. And Representative Gabe Evans from the
eighth Congressional District is signed on as a co sponsor
of what's called the Dignity Act, And boy, I was
happy to read your column on it and your thoughts
on it, and I'd love for you to tell my
listeners a little bit about why you, like I am,
are supporting the effort to move this forward.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
I share the sympathy of everybody who wants to follow
our laws. I mean, if we're a party of rule
of followers, if we're people that, as a societal member,
make sure that we go down the path of being
our laws, I'm with.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
That, and yes, people are here that have broken the law.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
But if we are to be pragmatist about things, if
we're to truly address this, then we have to take
a look at it holistically, systematically. I'm a county commissioner
in the number one egg producing county in the state
of Colorado, number eight in the nation. Forty two percent
of agg labor is here undocumented. Now, yes, that's wrong,

(01:21:55):
But the problem is, if you believe in economics, which
most of us do, where there is they demand, the
supply shall present itself. And so when I talk to
some of the people in Weld County that are massive
vegetable growers, that are massive agricultural producers, and they are
just as maga as maga can be. But when we
start having a conversation about how they're going to get

(01:22:17):
the carrots and the onions side of the field, it
all of a sudden becomes different. Because pragmatism dictates that
we need a labor force, and that labor force exists
and the eight point two million people that are embedded
in it today.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
So let's talk for a second. And you know I've
gotten the emails. Scott and I had a chat off
the air before we started this interview, and I've gotten
the emails from people, and I have so much sympathy
for this point of view. And it is they broke
the law, no amnesty, make them go back to their
home countries and come back and reapply. I think you
and I are on the same page in just recognizing

(01:22:51):
the sheer physical impossibility of that unless government changes dramatically.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I'm a county commissioner. Before that, it was a mayor
before that, is a town council. But at the administrative
level we do stuff. Ultimately, you allow me to be
a year representative in government, but in Well County we're administrators.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
We must do stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
When I take a look at how you pragmatically remove
twenty million people from the nation, how much do you
have to grow governments?

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
I mean, think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Think about employing the people that are going to do
the investigations. I believe in the United States Constitution. Therefore
I believe in due process. Think of the courtrooms that
we have to stand up, the bandwidth that we must
apply not only the prosecution but in the defense. Think
to even exercise that new process, it is massive. If
we could go back and take care of it. You know,

(01:23:43):
in the very beginning, we should and we would, but
we can't. Pragmatically. We need to take a look at
what's here. Many and you know is a long time Colorado. Now,
in Colorado, sometimes we have a flooding basements and oh boy,
you walk downstairs and your feet squished and darn, and
I got water. What's the first thing you do when
you find out your basement is flooded. You find the
source of the water and you shut it off. Then

(01:24:03):
you deal with the water that's in your basements. President
Trump has shut off the water on our southern border,
and now we must pragmatically to save our furniture and
to save our carpet, deal with the water that's here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
The Dignity Act offers the most pragmatic solution to get
that done in a way that won't cripple the United
States economy and Weld County agriculturists.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
What do you say to people who say, this is amnesty.
We're not doing amnesty. This is wrong, this is an
no starter. How do you respond to that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
I grant you it is amnesty by the textbook definition
of what amnesty is. But then when you take a
look at what the Dignity Act does. They must admit
that they're here illegally on paper. Now, compare this to
maybe maybe you've got a little faster than you should,
or you've got a traffic ticket for running a stop sign.
And I don't want to equate being in this country
with a traffic violation. Let's, for the purposes of analogy,

(01:24:58):
I rolled through that stop sign. Geez, don't you want
a little mercy and grace from the court. And there's
going to be a fine that you have to pay.
With the Dignity Act, you have to admit that you
you've done it, that you're here illegally. You must submit it.
You must submit to biometric data and background checks. You
must pay an initial one thousand dollars fine and then
seven thousand dollars restitution over seven years, stay employed or

(01:25:19):
in school, not going the federal doles, so to speak.
There is a whole long list of things that could
be properly properly compared to it to probation that you
must go go through. So are they just saying you're
off scott free, which by the way, is amnesty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
No they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
They're saying thank you for standing up and saying that
you're here illegally.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Now let's go through this process.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
And then and only if you complete that process, then
you can earn the right to be here legally.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Not citizenship, but to be here I legally.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
One of the things that I don't know if this
is addressed in the Dignity Act, but one of the
things that I think we have to address is creating
a rope a more robust guest worker program, so people
who do want to come over and pick our fruits
and vegetables or work in you know, landscaping in the
summer and want to go home in the window. Never mind,

(01:26:14):
Zach has a gremlin and master control. Luckily, Scott, as
a longtime radio professional, understands radio gremlins and is not
shocked by this. But but to your point, I mean,
does this address the needs of agriculture in a more
permanent way. We know we have the H one V
VISA program, but there's not enough. What are we going
to do to create I would love to see a

(01:26:34):
way because let me little background. My ex husband is
a golf course superintendent. Okay, all of his guys are
from Guatemala. Okay, they work harder than any human beings
you've ever seen in your life. Not a single one
of them wants to be a citizen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
They want to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Come, they want to work their butts off here. They
want to make as much money as they can. They
want to build a place in Guatemala, and they want
to go home and they want to stay there. But
going back and forth across the border, they can't even
go see their families because they're here illegally. They're going
to get detained. There's a chance they can't get back in.
I'd like to see a system that allows people to
have that movement who want to come here and say, look,

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I want to take advantage of the American economy. And yes,
it's taking care of the advantage of the American economy.
But at the same time, they're providing a service a
lot of other people don't want to provide. So this
should be a beneficial situation. Is that addressed at all
in this bill?

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
I think it's somewhat addressed in the bill. At least
it creates a path forward to that. At least it
opens up that labor force, and at the backside of that, can.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
They apply for the more permanent visas.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
I believe that is a stipulation of getting through the
seven years and years correctly. And Manny, these are the
conversations that we need to have. Yeah, we don't need
to fold our arms and say no nothing. And trust me,
I not only understand the sentiment. There's a big part
of me that shares it. But I'm also a pragmatist
and I want to fix something. And we can't fix
something until we have these conversations. We have to talk

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to the people that consume that labor, and we have
to make sure that we understand their needs. I can
tell you that some of our largest vegetable producers here
in Well County, at peak carbage season, which by the way,
we're approaching right now, at peak harvest season, up to
five hundred workers a day.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
So on your king Supers, your.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Albertson's shelf, or wherever you're going, you can have those
fresh vegetables. It's labor that is needed, it's a commodity
that's needed, and we have to address that issue. I
believe that the Dignity Act at least begins the conversation.
Trust me, it is far easier for a politician. I
know a little bit about being a politician. It is
far easier for a politician to stand up and be

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against something and then fundraise on it on the backside
then what it is to stand up and say, here's
my solution. And by the way, I may have just
risk making half the people angry, but at least I'm
trying to do something, and isn't that what we elected
them to do?

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
I agree wholeheartedly, and I think there's another aspect to
this that is critical. At this moment. We saw what
the wrong president in office can do to border security
and the notion that somehow whatever Donald Trump puts in
place is going to be there forever. They can starve
it financially, they can knock down pieces of the wall,
they can open the border up anytime they want. We

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have now seen that in practice. This right now, today
is the best opportunity we have to have this conversation
when we are not under fire and I don't mean literally,
of course, but under attack from people flowing over the
southern border. We're not on an emergency footing, which is
where we've been in every other time we've tried to

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have this conversation. We finally have some stability at the border.
Border crossings are under control. The border patrol is turning
people back at the border instead of letting them in
the country. Now is when we need to have that
reasonable conversation, get people together, you know, make the arguments
that you're making right now, and figure out something that

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is going to in my mind, that's going to work
for enough people that enough people are not going to
like like, you know, everybody should be a little unhappy
when we're all done with this, But we have to
do something. I feel like, if we don't strike when
the iron's hot right now, then the next president, the
next administration could very well undo anything that we think

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we have in our control at this moment. So we
have to disincentivize illegal immigration by making legal pathways easier
to navigate. That I mean, I just think nothing else
matters to me except that, in my.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Opinion, we have sixteen months to have this conversation. In
my opinion, we have sixteen months to pass this particular
piece of legislation.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Let's get it done.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
To further on my analogy, President Trump has stopped the
flooding in our basement, and we have to deal with
the water that's in our basement.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Let's take care of it now. Let's have this conversation now, and.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Let's again, as you stated, good legislation, good policies, where
everybody feels like they didn't get exactly what they want
ex you know, if I could stand on my ideological heel,
which he would love, I would love to do, and
which quite frankly, is easier for me to do as
an elected official, to stand on that ideology and to
fold my arms and say no, It'd be so much

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easier just to say no, illegals, they all go back.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
It doesn't fix a thing. Now is the time to
fix it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
To your point about you know, if we could go
back and do it. I had a therapist one time
say to me as I was complaining about something stupid
I had done, and how I wish I had done
it differently, and she leaned over and tapped my knee
and said, we'll go back in your time machine and
change his sugar. And I think that is the perfect
analogy to all of the people who say we're only
going to accept this that is not going to happen,

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and you are about to throw out the good for
the perfect that will never occur. We don't have enough
votes in the in Congress, we couldn't get it through
the Senate. Even if we wanted to pass the bill
that said you all got to go home, and we're
going to get jack booted thugs to go through the
country and take all these it would never pass. It's
politically impossible. So start looking for the politically possible. Can

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give us some security going forward. Make sure that people
who need this labor, whether it's in hotels or it's
in the field or wherever, have access to it. But
then also, Scott, allow the people who want those jobs
to be able to treat it, be treated fairly, to
be able to feel some sense of security. You know,
we don't even talk about what it must be like

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to live in this country under fear of being found out.
I mean, it's got to be a scary way to
be And this, I think is the best start that
I've seen in a long time. And I'm hoping that
we can bring more people along to have this conversation.
And I thank you for sticking your political knock out
there to make it an issue that you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
I think the fear that you speak of, man is
when I think of somebody who is here in this
national Legally, the fear for is is less from ice.
The fear is more from the cartels and the Krinda
Iraquis and those people that are black nailing those that
are here illegally. From a humanitarian standpoint and from a
legalistic standpoint, the Dignity.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Act offers a lot of things that we may not
be able to talk about again. Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
It's my pleasure to be able to quote unquote stick
Monday gud because it's my job to try to fix things.

Speaker 5 (01:33:09):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Let me be the first on the radio to highly
recommend the is it Scottkjames dot com?

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Is that it Scottkajames dot com?

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
My little daily emails called the Scott Sheet Scott Sheet.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Okay, I'm gonna try and do that Johnny.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
By the way, Mandy, if you've joined it, you're now
a sheethead, and so welcome to be. I'm glad that
you're our sheet head.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Welcome to the Scott Sheheet.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
I am. I am very impressed with it. Scott. I'm
sure we'll talk again. Thank you so much for making
time for me today.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
My pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Thank you, all right. That is Scott James, Wild County
Commissioner and rabble rouser and man about town. So let
me see if I got everything important today on the blog.
I think I did. I didn't even talk about Phil
Wiser joining the idiotic Planned parent Who lawsuit, so we
haven't really talked about this. But Congress, who constitutionally holds

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the power of the purse, that's her job, it's literally
spelled out in the Constitution, decided to pass a bill
pulling funding from Planned Parenthood. There is nothing in the
constitution that says any private organization should get any tax money,
and yet a federal judge issue to stay on what grounds.
I don't know, but that's where we are. That's on

(01:34:25):
the blog today. And if you didn't hear me talking
about this earlier, a a a Twitter account, an X
account called Denver Visitor made a super fun AI video
and music song and made a song and they put
it on X and yours truly is represented in this
video and I look so cute, like it's the cutest

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little AI represent way better than me in real life,
Brian Edwards, way better these Yeah, it's on the block
Mandy's blog. Dog No, no, no, no, it's all about
It's all about the scandal of the Denver Post try
to help a social media account that the mayor doesn't like,
and so they did this and it's quite it's quite
good and I got a significant shout out. I look

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absolutely adorable in that video. So it's on the blog.
It's on the blog dot com. Yeah, check that out.
How was training camp today?

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
It was good.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
You know, we had a cooler days are so spoiled whatever.
We're like, hey, it's a cool day. It's in the sixties.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
This is awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
Yeah, yesterday was overcast, so it's good. No, it's third
straight day of pads, so very very intense practice, but
it is very good.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Are things starting to look more organized a little bit
or are we still in the beginning of let's see
what everybody can do and how everybody's coming back in conditioning. No,
we're past that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
It is very much, you know, seeing these things work
out as they're supposed to. The defense looks phenomenal. The
offense is doing their best. I mean it's not like
years past where it's like, yeah, the offense is really
far behind. The offense is doing what they can. The
defense is is that good? So but a lot of
times people hear that and there's still like ten years
of PTSD about the Broncos offense, so like.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Oh god, the offense is bad again. I'm like, no, no, no,
it's not bad. But when you practice against the best,
it only makes you better. It quite literally might be
the best defense in the league.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
So they look like that and every single day, good
luck to that offense. Fighting some inroads, but they do.
They got some wins today, so it's been fun.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
You guys.