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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fantastic event, if I do say so myself, and give
a lot of credit to Douglas County citizenry. I had
the chance to meet Weld County Commissioner Scott James, and
today I'm having him on the show, not as Weld
County Commissioner, even though he is, but we're going to
talk about something that he writes about on his blog site,
(00:20):
which is amazing and I don't know how I didn't
know about it until now, but now I'm signed up
for the Scott Report that's going to hit my mailbox
every day by five am.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But first of all, Scott, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Thank you many. It's a pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So let's talk about why we're here, and that is
the Dignity Act.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I've been really open with my audience and I just
said this to you off the air. I was just
vehemently opposed to the immigration reform that was proposed by
the Gang of Eight in two thousand and eight because
we had no border security. I knew it was going
to be another amnesty and we were going to just
invite millions and millions of people to come after that.
This is a much different situation that we're in right now,
(00:58):
and Representative Gabe Evans from the eighth Regional District is
signed on as a co sponsor of what's called the
Dignity Act, And boy, I was happy to read your
column on it and your thoughts on it, and I'd
love for you to tell my listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
A little bit about why you, like I am, are
supporting the effort to move this forward.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I share the sympathy of everybody who wants to follow
our laws. I mean, if we're a party of rule
of followers, if we're people that, as a societal member,
make sure that we go down the path of being
our laws, I'm with that. And yes, people are here
that have broken the law. But if we are to
be pragmatist about things, if we're to truly address this,
(01:40):
then we have to take a look at it holistically, systematically.
I'm a county commissioner in the number one egg producing
county in the state of Colorado, number.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Eight in the nation.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Forty two percent of agg labor is here undocumented. Now,
yes that's wrong, but the problem is, if you believe
in economics, which most of us do, where there is
a demand, the supply shall present itself and So when
I talk to some of the people in Wild County
that are massive vegetable growers, that are massive agricultural producers.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And they are just as maga as maga can be.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But when we start having a conversation about how they're
going to get the carrots and the onions oude of
the field, it all of a sudden becomes different because
pragmatism dictates that we need a labor force, and that
labor force exists and the eight point two million people
that are embedded in it today.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So let's talk for a second. And you know, I've
gotten the emails.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Scott and I had a chat off the air before
we started this interview, and I've gotten the emails from people,
and I have so much sympathy for this point of view,
and it is they broke the law, no amnesty, make
them go back to their home countries and come back
and reapply. I think you and I are on the
same page in just recognizing the sheer physical impossibility of
(02:56):
that unless government changes fromout it.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Clay, I'm a county commissioner before that, it was a
mayor before that, is a town council. But at the
administrative level, we do stuff. Ultimately, you allow me to
be a year representative in government, but in Well County
we're administrators.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We must do stuff. When I take a look.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
At how you pragmatically remove twenty million people from the nation,
how much do you have to grow governments? I mean,
think about it. Think about employing the people that are
going to do the investigations. I believe in the United
States Constitution. Therefore I believe in due process. Think of
the courtrooms that we have to stand up, the bandwidth
that we must apply, and not only the prosecution, but.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
In the defense. Think to even exercise that new process.
It is massive.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
If we could go back and take care of it,
you know, in the very beginning we should and we would,
but we can't pragmatically. We need to take a look
at what's here, Maddy, And you know as a long
time Colorado Now in Colorado, sometimes we have a flooding
basement and oh boy, you walk downstairs and your feet
squish and darnett, I got water. What's That's the first
thing you do when you find out your basement is footed,
(04:02):
You find the source of the water and you shut
it off. Then you deal with the water that's in
your basements. President Trump has shut off the water on
our southern border, and now we must pragmatically to save
our furniture and to save our carpet, deal with the
water that's here. I think that the Dignity Act offers
the most pragmatic solution to get that done in a
(04:23):
way that won't cripple the United States economy and Weld
County agriculturists.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What do you say to people who say, this is amnesty.
We're not doing amnesty. This is wrong, this is an
no starter. How do you respond to that.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I grant you it is amnesty by the textbook definition
of what amnesty is. But then when you take a
look at what the Dignity Act does, they must admit.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That they're here illegally on paper.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Now, compare this to maybe maybe you've got a little
faster than you should, or you've got a traffic ticket
for running a stop sign. And I don't want to
equate being in this country with a traffic violation. Let's
for the purposes of analogy, I rolled.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Through that stop sign. Geez, don't you want a little
mercy and grace from the court, And there's going to
be a fine that you have to pay. With the
Dignity Act, you have to admit that you've you've done it,
that you're here illegally. You must submit it.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
You must submit to biometric data and background checks. You
must pay an initial one thousand dollars fine and then
seven thousand dollars restitution over seven years, stay employed or in.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
School, not going the federal doles, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
There is a whole long list of things that could
be properly, properly compared.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
To it, to probation that you must go go through.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So are they just saying you're off scott free, which
by the way, is amnesty.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
No, they're not. They're saying, thank you for standing up
and saying that you're here illegally.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Now let's go through this process, and then and only
if you complete that process, then you can earn the
right to be here legally, not citizenship, right to be
here illegally.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, one of the things that I don't know
if this is addressed in the Dignity Act, but one
of the things that I think we have to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Address is creating a rope, a more.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Robust guest worker program, so people who do want to
come over and pick our fruits and vegetables or work
in you know, landscaping in the summer and want to
go home in the window today. Never mind, Zach has
a gremlin and master control. Luckily Scott, as a longtime
(06:19):
radio professional, understands radio gremlins. It is not shocked by this.
But but to your point, I mean, does this address
the needs of agriculture in a more permanent way? We
know we have the H one V VISA program, but
there's not enough.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What are we going to.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Do to create I would love to see a way
because let me little background.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
My ex husband is a golf course superintendent. Okay. All
of these guys are from Guatemala.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, they work harder than any human beings you've ever
seen in your life. Not a single one of them
wants to be a citizen.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
They want to come.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They want to work their butts off here. They want
to make as much money as they can. They want
to build a place in Guatemala, and they want to
go home and they.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Want to stay there.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
But going back and worth across the border, they can't
even go see their families because they're here illegally. They're
going to get detained. There's a chance they can't get
back in. I'd like to see a system that allows
people to have that movement who want to come here
and say, look, I want to take advantage of the
American economy. And yes, it's taking care of the advantage
of the American economy. But at the same time, they're
providing a service a lot of other people don't want
(07:20):
to provide. So this should be a beneficial situation. Is
that addressed at all in this bill?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I think it's somewhat addressed in the bill. At least
it creates a path forward to that. At least it
opens up that labor force. And at the backside of that,
can they apply for the more permitent visas. I believe
that is a stipulation of getting through the seven years
and years correctly. And Manny, these are the conversations that
we need to have.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, we don't need to fold our arms and say
no nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And trust me, I not only understand the sentiment, there's
a big part of me that shares it, but I'm
also a pragmatist and I want to fix something, and
we can't fix something until we have these conversations.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
We have to talk to the.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
People that consume that labor, and we have to make
sure that we understand their needs. I can tell you
that some of our largest vegetable producers here in Well
County at peak harbage season, which by the way, we're
approaching right now, at peak harve season, up to five
hundred workers a day. So on your king Supers, your
Albertson's shelf, or wherever you're going, you could have those
(08:22):
fresh vegetables. It's labor that is needed, it's a commodity
that's needed, and we have to address that issue. I
believe that the Dignity Act at least begins the conversation.
Trust me, it is far easier for a politician. I
know a little bit about being a politician. It is
far easier for a politician to stand up and be
against something and then fundraise on it on the backside,
(08:45):
then what it is to stand up and say, here's
my solution. And by the way, I may have just
risk making half the people angry, but at least I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
To do something, and isn't that what we elected them
to do?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I agree wholeheartedly, and I think there's another aspect to
this that is critical. At this we saw what the
wrong president in office can do to border security and
the notion that somehow whatever Donald Trump puts in place
is going to be there forever. They can starve it financially,
they can knock down pieces of the wall, They can
open the border up anytime they want.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
We have now seen that in practice.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
This right now, today is the best opportunity we have
to have this conversation when we are not under fire
and I don't mean literally, of course, but under attack
from people flowing over the southern border. We're not on
an emergency footing, which is where we've been in every
other time we've tried to have this conversation. We finally
(09:38):
have some stability at the border. Border crossings are under control,
the border patrol is turning people back at the border
instead of letting them in the country. Now is when
we need to have that reasonable conversation, get people together,
you know, make the arguments that you're making right now,
and figure out something that is going to in my mind,
(09:58):
that's going to work for another enough people that enough
people are not going to like like, you know, everybody
should be a little unhappy when we're all done with this,
but we have to do something. And I feel like
if we don't strike when the iron's hot right now,
then the next president, the next administration could very well
undo anything that we think we have under control at
this moment. So we have to disincentivize illegal immigration by
(10:24):
making legal pathways easier to navigate. That I mean, I
just think nothing else matters to me except that, in.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
My opinion, we have sixteen months to have this conversation.
In my opinion, we have sixteen months to pass this
particular piece of legislation.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Let's get it done.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
To further on my analogy, President Trump has stopped the
flooding in our basement, and we have to deal with the.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Water that's in our basement. Let's take care of it now.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Let's have this conversation now, and let's again, as you stated,
good legislation, good policies where everybody feels like they didn't
get exactly what they want.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know, if I could stand on.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
My idiot logical heel, which he would love, I would
love to do, and which quite frankly is easier for
me to do as an elected official, to stand on
that ideology and to fold my arms and say no.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It'd be so much easier just to say no, illegals.
They all go back. It doesn't fix a thing. Now
is the time to fix it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
To your point about you know, if we could go
back and do it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I had a therapist one time say to me as
I was complaining about something stupid I had done, and
how I wish I had done it differently, and she
leaned over and tapped my knee and said, we'll go
back in your time machine and change his sugar. And
I think that is the perfect analogy to all of
the people who say we're only going to accept this
that is not going to happen, and you are about
to throw out the good for the perfect that will
(11:44):
never occur. We don't have enough votes in the in Congress.
We couldn't get it through the Senate. Even if we
wanted to pass the bill that said you all got
to go home and we're going to get jack booted
thugs to go through the country and take all these
it would never pass. It's politically impossible. So start looking
for the politically possible that can give us some security
going forward. Make sure that people who need this labor,
(12:05):
whether it's in hotels or it's in the field or wherever,
have access to it.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But then also, Scott, allow.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
The people who want those jobs to be able to
treat it, be treated fairly, to be able to feel
some sense of security.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, we don't even talk about what.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It must be like to live in this country under
fear of being found out. I mean, it's got to
be a scary way to be And this, I think
is the best start that I've seen in a long time.
And I'm hoping that we can bring more people along
to have this conversation. And I thank you for sticking
your political knock out there to make it an issue
that you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I think the fear that you speak of, man is
when I think of somebody who.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Is here in this national legal the fear for is
less from ice.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The fear is more from the cartels and the Trinda
Iraquis and those people that are black nailing those that
are here illegally. From a humanitarian standpoint and from a
league a legalistic standpoint, the Dignity Act offers a lot
of things that we may not be able to talk
about again, Mandy, it's my pleasure to be able to
quote unquote stick Monday Cad because it's my job to
try to fix things.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, let me be the first on the radio to
highly recommend the Is it Scottkjames dot com?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Is that it Scottkajames dot com. My little daily emails
called the Scott Sheet Scott Sheet.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, I'm gonna try.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And do that. Johnny.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
By the way, Mandy, if you've joined it, you're now
a sheeth head, and so welcome to be.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I'm glad that you're our sheet head. Welcome to the Scott.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Sheheet, I am. I am very impressed with it. Scott.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I'm sure we'll talk again. Thank you so much for
making time for me today. My pleasure to thank you,
all right, That is Scott James, Wild County commissioner and
rabble rouser and man about town
Fantastic event, if I do say so myself, and give
a lot of credit to Douglas County citizenry. I had
the chance to meet Weld County Commissioner Scott James, and
today I'm having him on the show, not as Weld
County Commissioner, even though he is, but we're going to
talk about something that he writes about on his blog site,
(00:20):
which is amazing and I don't know how I didn't
know about it until now, but now I'm signed up
for the Scott Report that's going to hit my mailbox
every day by five am.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But first of all, Scott, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Thank you many. It's a pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So let's talk about why we're here, and that is
the Dignity Act.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I've been really open with my audience and I just
said this to you off the air. I was just
vehemently opposed to the immigration reform that was proposed by
the Gang of Eight in two thousand and eight because
we had no border security. I knew it was going
to be another amnesty and we were going to just
invite millions and millions of people to come after that.
This is a much different situation that we're in right now,
(00:58):
and Representative Gabe Evans from the eighth Regional District is
signed on as a co sponsor of what's called the
Dignity Act, And boy, I was happy to read your
column on it and your thoughts on it, and I'd
love for you to tell my listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
A little bit about why you, like I am, are
supporting the effort to move this forward.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I share the sympathy of everybody who wants to follow
our laws. I mean, if we're a party of rule
of followers, if we're people that, as a societal member,
make sure that we go down the path of being
our laws, I'm with that. And yes, people are here
that have broken the law. But if we are to
be pragmatist about things, if we're to truly address this,
(01:40):
then we have to take a look at it holistically, systematically.
I'm a county commissioner in the number one egg producing
county in the state of Colorado, number.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Eight in the nation.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Forty two percent of agg labor is here undocumented. Now,
yes that's wrong, but the problem is, if you believe
in economics, which most of us do, where there is
a demand, the supply shall present itself and So when
I talk to some of the people in Wild County
that are massive vegetable growers, that are massive agricultural producers.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And they are just as maga as maga can be.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But when we start having a conversation about how they're
going to get the carrots and the onions oude of
the field, it all of a sudden becomes different because
pragmatism dictates that we need a labor force, and that
labor force exists and the eight point two million people
that are embedded in it today.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So let's talk for a second. And you know, I've
gotten the emails.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Scott and I had a chat off the air before
we started this interview, and I've gotten the emails from people,
and I have so much sympathy for this point of view,
and it is they broke the law, no amnesty, make
them go back to their home countries and come back
and reapply. I think you and I are on the
same page in just recognizing the sheer physical impossibility of
(02:56):
that unless government changes fromout it.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Clay, I'm a county commissioner before that, it was a
mayor before that, is a town council. But at the
administrative level, we do stuff. Ultimately, you allow me to
be a year representative in government, but in Well County
we're administrators.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We must do stuff. When I take a look.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
At how you pragmatically remove twenty million people from the nation,
how much do you have to grow governments? I mean,
think about it. Think about employing the people that are
going to do the investigations. I believe in the United
States Constitution. Therefore I believe in due process. Think of
the courtrooms that we have to stand up, the bandwidth
that we must apply, and not only the prosecution, but.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
In the defense. Think to even exercise that new process.
It is massive.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
If we could go back and take care of it,
you know, in the very beginning we should and we would,
but we can't pragmatically. We need to take a look
at what's here, Maddy, And you know as a long
time Colorado Now in Colorado, sometimes we have a flooding
basement and oh boy, you walk downstairs and your feet
squish and darnett, I got water. What's That's the first
thing you do when you find out your basement is footed,
(04:02):
You find the source of the water and you shut
it off. Then you deal with the water that's in
your basements. President Trump has shut off the water on
our southern border, and now we must pragmatically to save
our furniture and to save our carpet, deal with the
water that's here. I think that the Dignity Act offers
the most pragmatic solution to get that done in a
(04:23):
way that won't cripple the United States economy and Weld
County agriculturists.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What do you say to people who say, this is amnesty.
We're not doing amnesty. This is wrong, this is an
no starter. How do you respond to that.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I grant you it is amnesty by the textbook definition
of what amnesty is. But then when you take a
look at what the Dignity Act does, they must admit.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That they're here illegally on paper.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Now, compare this to maybe maybe you've got a little
faster than you should, or you've got a traffic ticket
for running a stop sign. And I don't want to
equate being in this country with a traffic violation. Let's
for the purposes of analogy, I rolled.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Through that stop sign. Geez, don't you want a little
mercy and grace from the court, And there's going to
be a fine that you have to pay. With the
Dignity Act, you have to admit that you've you've done it,
that you're here illegally. You must submit it.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
You must submit to biometric data and background checks. You
must pay an initial one thousand dollars fine and then
seven thousand dollars restitution over seven years, stay employed or in.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
School, not going the federal doles, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
There is a whole long list of things that could
be properly, properly compared.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
To it, to probation that you must go go through.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So are they just saying you're off scott free, which
by the way, is amnesty.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
No, they're not. They're saying, thank you for standing up
and saying that you're here illegally.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Now let's go through this process, and then and only
if you complete that process, then you can earn the
right to be here legally, not citizenship, right to be
here illegally.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, one of the things that I don't know
if this is addressed in the Dignity Act, but one
of the things that I think we have to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Address is creating a rope, a more.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Robust guest worker program, so people who do want to
come over and pick our fruits and vegetables or work
in you know, landscaping in the summer and want to
go home in the window today. Never mind, Zach has
a gremlin and master control. Luckily Scott, as a longtime
(06:19):
radio professional, understands radio gremlins. It is not shocked by this.
But but to your point, I mean, does this address
the needs of agriculture in a more permanent way? We
know we have the H one V VISA program, but
there's not enough.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What are we going to.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Do to create I would love to see a way
because let me little background.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
My ex husband is a golf course superintendent. Okay. All
of these guys are from Guatemala.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, they work harder than any human beings you've ever
seen in your life. Not a single one of them
wants to be a citizen.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
They want to come.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They want to work their butts off here. They want
to make as much money as they can. They want
to build a place in Guatemala, and they want to
go home and they.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Want to stay there.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
But going back and worth across the border, they can't
even go see their families because they're here illegally. They're
going to get detained. There's a chance they can't get
back in. I'd like to see a system that allows
people to have that movement who want to come here
and say, look, I want to take advantage of the
American economy. And yes, it's taking care of the advantage
of the American economy. But at the same time, they're
providing a service a lot of other people don't want
(07:20):
to provide. So this should be a beneficial situation. Is
that addressed at all in this bill?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I think it's somewhat addressed in the bill. At least
it creates a path forward to that. At least it
opens up that labor force. And at the backside of that,
can they apply for the more permitent visas. I believe
that is a stipulation of getting through the seven years
and years correctly. And Manny, these are the conversations that
we need to have.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, we don't need to fold our arms and say
no nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And trust me, I not only understand the sentiment, there's
a big part of me that shares it, but I'm
also a pragmatist and I want to fix something, and
we can't fix something until we have these conversations.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
We have to talk to the.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
People that consume that labor, and we have to make
sure that we understand their needs. I can tell you
that some of our largest vegetable producers here in Well
County at peak harbage season, which by the way, we're
approaching right now, at peak harve season, up to five
hundred workers a day. So on your king Supers, your
Albertson's shelf, or wherever you're going, you could have those
(08:22):
fresh vegetables. It's labor that is needed, it's a commodity
that's needed, and we have to address that issue. I
believe that the Dignity Act at least begins the conversation.
Trust me, it is far easier for a politician. I
know a little bit about being a politician. It is
far easier for a politician to stand up and be
against something and then fundraise on it on the backside,
(08:45):
then what it is to stand up and say, here's
my solution. And by the way, I may have just
risk making half the people angry, but at least I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
To do something, and isn't that what we elected them
to do?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I agree wholeheartedly, and I think there's another aspect to
this that is critical. At this we saw what the
wrong president in office can do to border security and
the notion that somehow whatever Donald Trump puts in place
is going to be there forever. They can starve it financially,
they can knock down pieces of the wall, They can
open the border up anytime they want.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
We have now seen that in practice.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
This right now, today is the best opportunity we have
to have this conversation when we are not under fire
and I don't mean literally, of course, but under attack
from people flowing over the southern border. We're not on
an emergency footing, which is where we've been in every
other time we've tried to have this conversation. We finally
(09:38):
have some stability at the border. Border crossings are under control,
the border patrol is turning people back at the border
instead of letting them in the country. Now is when
we need to have that reasonable conversation, get people together,
you know, make the arguments that you're making right now,
and figure out something that is going to in my mind,
(09:58):
that's going to work for another enough people that enough
people are not going to like like, you know, everybody
should be a little unhappy when we're all done with this,
but we have to do something. And I feel like
if we don't strike when the iron's hot right now,
then the next president, the next administration could very well
undo anything that we think we have under control at
this moment. So we have to disincentivize illegal immigration by
(10:24):
making legal pathways easier to navigate. That I mean, I
just think nothing else matters to me except that, in.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
My opinion, we have sixteen months to have this conversation.
In my opinion, we have sixteen months to pass this
particular piece of legislation.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Let's get it done.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
To further on my analogy, President Trump has stopped the
flooding in our basement, and we have to deal with the.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Water that's in our basement. Let's take care of it now.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Let's have this conversation now, and let's again, as you stated,
good legislation, good policies where everybody feels like they didn't
get exactly what they want.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know, if I could stand on.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
My idiot logical heel, which he would love, I would
love to do, and which quite frankly is easier for
me to do as an elected official, to stand on
that ideology and to fold my arms and say no.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It'd be so much easier just to say no, illegals.
They all go back. It doesn't fix a thing. Now
is the time to fix it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
To your point about you know, if we could go
back and do it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I had a therapist one time say to me as
I was complaining about something stupid I had done, and
how I wish I had done it differently, and she
leaned over and tapped my knee and said, we'll go
back in your time machine and change his sugar. And
I think that is the perfect analogy to all of
the people who say we're only going to accept this
that is not going to happen, and you are about
to throw out the good for the perfect that will
(11:44):
never occur. We don't have enough votes in the in Congress.
We couldn't get it through the Senate. Even if we
wanted to pass the bill that said you all got
to go home and we're going to get jack booted
thugs to go through the country and take all these
it would never pass. It's politically impossible. So start looking
for the politically possible that can give us some security
going forward. Make sure that people who need this labor,
(12:05):
whether it's in hotels or it's in the field or wherever,
have access to it.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But then also, Scott, allow.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
The people who want those jobs to be able to
treat it, be treated fairly, to be able to feel
some sense of security.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, we don't even talk about what.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It must be like to live in this country under
fear of being found out. I mean, it's got to
be a scary way to be And this, I think
is the best start that I've seen in a long time.
And I'm hoping that we can bring more people along
to have this conversation. And I thank you for sticking
your political knock out there to make it an issue
that you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I think the fear that you speak of, man is
when I think of somebody who.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Is here in this national legal the fear for is
less from ice.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The fear is more from the cartels and the Trinda
Iraquis and those people that are black nailing those that
are here illegally. From a humanitarian standpoint and from a
league a legalistic standpoint, the Dignity Act offers a lot
of things that we may not be able to talk
about again, Mandy, it's my pleasure to be able to
quote unquote stick Monday Cad because it's my job to
try to fix things.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, let me be the first on the radio to
highly recommend the Is it Scottkjames dot com?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Is that it Scottkajames dot com. My little daily emails
called the Scott Sheet Scott Sheet.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, I'm gonna try.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And do that. Johnny.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
By the way, Mandy, if you've joined it, you're now
a sheeth head, and so welcome to be.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I'm glad that you're our sheet head. Welcome to the Scott.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Sheheet, I am. I am very impressed with it. Scott.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I'm sure we'll talk again. Thank you so much for
making time for me today. My pleasure to thank you,
all right, That is Scott James, Wild County commissioner and
rabble rouser and man about town
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