08-07-25 FULL SHOW - Krista Kafer Fills in For Mandy

Krista Kafer fills in for Mandy!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:03):
Senate's calm should be interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
It's weighed in on the whole like brew haha around
do better Denver And my take is, well, it's a
little different. Let's just say got a fun show ahead,
helped out.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Ably by a rod behind the glass and he is stoked.
He's about to do the man To incline.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
If you've done the incline, if you've attempted to do
the incline and ended up, I don't know, falling down
the mountain. Let me know, five six, six, nine to zero.
I did it, I think two years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
And I'm a little on the old side. And it
is rigorous. It's like.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Five thousand staircases in one hundred degree heat.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Seven hundred and sixty eight. But who's counting.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Somebody's done the counting, because someone's done the math. He's
been prepping now for how many months?

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Just a couple of weeks. Weeks.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
It turned into from a joke in the group chat
to us seriously actually doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
I think you're gonna love it. I mean, it's just
it's a badge.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
It's like a Colorado badge if honored. Yeah, it's the Manitudin.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's a cute place to go have lunch afterward.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
Where not that I don't trust my really good friend,
which I do, who went like a month or two ago.
But if anyone that wins in the last month or
two can help me confirm that it's okay to not
have a reservation. So if anyone on the text line
five six six nine zero has recently gone, can you
confirm that.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
You either didn't or.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
They didn't check, because I've been told multiple times that
you don't need one, So can people confirm that please?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
That'd be great.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Well, and nobody wants to make it the hour and
a half drive down there and find out that it's
a new.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
Go well, you know me, I'm gonna I mean, I've
been psyching myself up ready to go, so to get
to that climax and then can't do it.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
To go online and do a reservation of some kind.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's awful.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Oh yeah, it's booked up to the tee. But everyone
recently says you don't need one. That was really a
COVID thing. They don't really enforce it, so getting extra
confirmation textures you'd be really appreciated.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Here says that they climbed the climbed Pike's Peak twice
in their twenties.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
But a little afraid of the incline now that they're older.
So I get it. I couldn't do the incline right now.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I've got some health issues, but I'll be back on
the mountain at some point, too much of a badass
to say no to that?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Got a fun show ahead.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Legislators behaving badly or maybe not so much? Anxiety Nation.
What you should be afraid of today? New sanctuary city
list is out? Is Colorado and Denver still on it?
And also stupid fashion trends. If you're going to weigh in,
please do five six six'. Nine oh and check me

(03:38):
out At Krista. Kaefer if you're On, Twitter, NO i don't.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Call IT, x nor SHALL i ever call IT x
a dumb, name BUT i am active On.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
TWITTER i do Have facebook page as, well so you
can check me out. There i'm gonna post.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Sometime on the. Break i've got a foster dog.

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with A. K i've got the cutest dog Ever Cata
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Speaker 4 (04:04):
Adoption what post a per picture of your?

Speaker 5 (04:06):
THINKING i need a little snuggleton who would make a
good hunting.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Dog this would Be. Mocha so check me out there
and have it up, yet BUT i will in the near.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Future so let's talk about behavior of. Legislators behavior of
legislators our legislators behaving badly or maybe not so.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Much what is fair?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Game when we're talking about, People what is fair? Game
what is not a fair? Game right, now there's a
story out about.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
A couple of.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Legislators, yeah they were, Stupid yes they were, Caddy yes
they were acting beneath their.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Position my question is is can you actually ask for?
It And i'm not saying this legislator did BECAUSE i
hadn't seen the.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Picture but apparently a legislators back in you, know back
a couple of months, ago when The General assembly woul
And session stepped up to the podium and was. Talking
our name Is yara Zach, kay Zach. KAYA i don't
know How zoka Z. OKAY i don't know how to
pronounce her last. Name she's from Four. Collins she's a pretty.

(05:14):
GAL i guess she was wearing a very short skirt
with a jacket in. BOOTS i hadn't seen the. PICTURE
i don't know how it. LOOKED i don't know if
it was too. SHORT i don't know if legislators were
just being caddy and, stupid which is certainly, Possible but
apparently one took a picture of her put it onto
a private chat, session and then a bunch of, them

(05:36):
men and, women weighed into how the dress, looked saying
really really catty, things things, like you.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Know is she a? Prostitute stuff like.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
That it was caddy, unbecoming and of, course since it
was a forum that was official and could be solicited
later by a person wanting to, know it was incredibly.
Stupid Oh i'm gonna bust it to my own monologue
here and tell, you uh A rod that this person
just texted in and said they went to the incline

(06:08):
On monday and no one.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
CHECKED i saw. THAT i think you might Be, YEAH
i tend to.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Agree so so somebody posts this, picture he's a minority whip,
again beneath the position of. LEADERSHIP i certainly do. BELIEVE
i don't know how she. Looked there's that picture is not.
Available she is a pretty. GAL i don't know if
the skirt was really super. Short if a woman wears
a skirt in a professional setting that is extremely, short

(06:39):
does that make her fair?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
GAME i think it's a fair. Question five, six six.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Nine.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh AND i say that.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Because back in the, DAY i was a congressional staffer
At Capitol, Hill, WASHINGTON. Dc and don't be stuck in
these committee, rooms stuck in these, long boring dog and
ponies show. Hearings and so wefers would, start you, know
commenting about. Legislators you, know they were guys with, combovers

(07:07):
five strands of hair glued with hair spray across their bald.
Pate there were you, know men with you, know big
old front, porches big, old big old guts that.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Pushed out from their.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Suits there were you, know people wearing questionable fashion.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Choices and there was one. Legislator her name Was Loretta
sanchez From.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
CALIFORNIA i can't remember where my keys, are BUT i
do remember these specific things from like thirty years. Ago
and she always wore really low cut. Tops she had
a big, bosom.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
And she would be, like mister, chairman can we can
we get to my amendment?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Now and the old, Chairman Chairman, Goodling, pennsylvania very often
would just do her, bidding and not because she was particularly,
persuasive was entirely the.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Boobs and so we used.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
To make fun of, that used to make fun of.
Him we used to make fun of. Her and granted
we weren't, legislators we were not you.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Know men and women Of.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Congress we were, staffers but it always did irk me
that there were women dressed appropriately using their words to
persuade their. Colleagues and here is someone that you, know
comes in she's elected, official wearing a very low cut
top with the with the intention of using it to

(08:35):
get what she?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Wants was she fair game to make fun? Of what
is fair?

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Game if a woman wears a skirt too, short if
a man has a comb, over what about you, know
it's a person's weight fair? Game people make fun Of
trump's weight and his?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Hair is that fair? Game what About pelosi's? Facelifts fair?
Game what about bad? Outfits fair? Game, wrinkles? Facelifts what
is fair?

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Game, now ideally we wouldn't ever stoop to these. Things
we would just be, like, hey those are their fashion.
Choices i'm just going to keep it elevated and criticize their,
words their, actions their, platform.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Their, legislation their legislative. Record, yes that is, ideal but
at what point does fashion choice become fair? Game AND
i say it's not only is somebody looking back At
Loretta sanchez and being a, staffer BUT i have to
ADMIT i have Questioned Lauren bobert's fashion. Choices you, know

(09:46):
she tends to.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Accentuate the positive in ways THAT i think are perhaps
a little unbecoming at times of a legislative person who's
in the.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Legislature is that? Inappropriate is that hands?

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Off SHOULD i only criticize her, comments her legislation and
leave the fashion choices?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Out is it fair? GAME i don't, know this person,
says who's texting in at five six six.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Ninezerh of course it's fairgame posting, the picks especially doing
it the dumb way. He did he identified himself as,
a moron and he helped out the.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Voting public so in this case.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
It backfired, you know is the person who posts the
picture who makes?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
The comments now they're? Fair GAME and i think very
much they are. Fair game this.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Person says my, grandfather said if you don't have anything
nice to say, at all don't say anything. At ALL
and i think that's really, the ideal that's. The standard
but every now, AND again i think outfits can be.
FAIR game i think it can be fair game in
the same WAY that i think that, you know if
you have a lot of women and men who show

(10:59):
up to a public event, dressed appropriately and someone shows
up wearing a very short skirter a very low cut top.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
With the intent to perhaps using that visual to.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
THEIR advantage i kind of think they make themselves. Fair
GAME and i speak as one of the women who's.
Dressed Appropriately h this, person says? Fair game are we in?

Speaker 4 (11:25):
HIGH school i don't see this topic. Going, anywhere well.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
That's interesting this, person says as, a male you are.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Completely Wrong About. Lauren bobert she.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Dresses, PERFECTLY yeah I think i can understand why you would.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
SAY that i, as, somebody ah, SOMEBODY says i love. Your.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
WORK nice i only bring this up NOT because i
think it is a, heavy subject a substantive subject that
we should all think. Deeply about my question is is
just what is? Fair game that particular news story made every.
News site, Of Course kyle clark had to get up

(12:08):
and talk. About it and, you know with the Idea
that republicans are? Behaving badly are they? BEHAVING badly i
didn't see. THE outfit i tend to think that what
they did was beneath. Their POSITION but i also think
that what we wear in public.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Can make us. FAIR game i work on.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
The weekends selling hammocks at. Farmers, markets yeah it's, you
know you got to make your, money. Somehow RIGHT and
i see all kinds. OF things i see people.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Wearing SHORTS that i can, see that, YOU know i
can see their. BUTT cheeks i see these.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Lulu lemon stretchy things that show, every contour, every lump.
Every wrinkle this new thing a it's like a spandex
Onesie that i've seen, women Wear and i'm just glad
men aren't.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
WEARING it i will, say this, you KNOW occasionally i
see us see Men in JEANE capriz i guess you
call those That be.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Japrize, seorts no men can make bad for fashion, Choices
TOO but i.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Don't know if you're showing off your, BODY parts i
think you might be.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Fair game this, PERSON says i recall being surprised but
amused when it was fair game to ridicule, a youngest.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Youngish joy HOW can i, say This Youngish?

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Joe biden when you Return to congress one season with obvious?

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Hair, plugs yeah is? Hair plugs is that? FAIR game
i think That's What rush limbaugh used to Actually Call?
Joe biden is that? Fair game.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
What is?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Fair? Game?

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Hair fashion do you keep your comments. To yourself do
you not do the stupid thing by putting them into
a form where they can and be found later by
the public and report?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It on what is?

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Fair game this, person says how would you handle an
intern who? Dresses inappropriately inappropriately? At work as hard as it,
WOULD be i would take that person aside, AND say
i need to talk to you about what.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
YOU'RE wearing i don't think. It's appropriate it's become.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Something which is keeping our, attention folks not focused on
our business, at hand but. IT'S distracting, i also as,
a professional you may get the attention that. You want
you may get people to cooperate, with you but they're
not doing so out. Of respect they're not doing so out.
Of respect they're doing so because they just like looking at. Your,

(14:47):
BOOBS now i wouldn't say it. That way i'd say
it a, lot NICER but i would want her.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
To GO and i assume this. IS her i guess
guys could dress inappropriately, as WELL but i would want
her to have the self respect, TO say i want
to be respected.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
For, my brains for my, hard work for. My choices
those are the THINGS that i want to be. Respected
FOR and i would encourage you that young woman to
dress better in, the future at the very least not
to be a distraction, at work and also for her.

(15:23):
PROFESSIONAL trajectory i wouldn't want her to move forward highlighting
the things about her that will give her the respect,
of others not simply. The attention and that, is exactly
OH what i would do with. That intern, so yeah
what is? FAIR game i guess all of this is.
Fair game the, gal's outfit the. LEGISLATOR'S reaction i suppose

(15:46):
we could make Fun Of kyle clark's sanctimony as he talked.
ABOUT it i think we could make fun of the
fact that it managed to get in most newspapers as
if it was. Real news, and frankly if you, want
to you want to make fun, of me by, all
means by, all means and it looks like some of
you are taking that opportunity. Right now this person says

(16:09):
that famous line from The, movie Hackers spandex it's, a
privilege not.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
A right, I yeah i would. Avoid it, you know.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Spandex pants with a long shirts. One thing BUT when
i see, you know thank god it's only women and,
not men it is it?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
IS uh i. Don't KNOW can i say cameltoe on?
THE air i. Just did it's it's. Not attractive it's.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
NOT attractive i think you could do your friends of
favor and remove it from their wardrobe and.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
BURN it i said this to.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
My sixteen year old niece who's boyfriend had a pair
of those, jean capris the worst thing a young man could.
Be WEARING and i, was like get into his wardrobe
and get those and steal it and.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Steal, it, so, yes okay here's the person, who's like
you KNOW what i am Going to i'm going to
tell you. One thing i'll tell you to move on so.
STUPID trends i do want to mention this before we hit.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
THE brake i just read that apparently stressed Adults in
china the way the headline read In The New, york
post as you, can imagine it sounded like it was something,
happening here but apparently It's.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
In china could end up.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
MOVING here i suppose a particular trend that people are
using to. Soothe themselves this, person, SAYS.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Quote i feel a sense of SAFETY.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
When i think about. My childhood who's using this. Particular
item it's a TREND that i hope never never, comes
here kind of like the, spandex onesie it's A trend
i do not want to see Come. To america what
that trend, Is specifically i'm going to get THAT when

(18:03):
i get back from.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
This break we're going take a.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Quick, break meanwhile head Over to twitter or ex if
you want to call, it that and check me Out
at Chris.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
TO kafer i will post my dog that is Available
At Carl's.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Canine crew and when we get back a little more about,
stupid trends and, THEN yes I promise i will swim
over to the deeper end of the pool when it
comes to subjects and we'll talk about. Something SUBSTANTIVE but
i will probably hit a couple of your comments.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
About this last topic before we. Go there This Is.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Christy kafer i'm sitting In For mandy connell.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
And you're listening to EIGHT.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Fifty koa you're gonna have a, great Time, ay rod
and know, it ready it, is tough especially when.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
It's hot definitely good to bring some walking. STICK support
i did the incline two years.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Ago and yeah it's a, little rough but then you
got the beautiful.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Hike coming around. The back End and Man two springs
is a lot.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
Of FUN so i looked at all the different Comments
and i'm just gonna batch them. For you we were
talking a little bit about what is fair game given
the fact that there's been a news report in, you
know pretty much in any, every paper, the gazette, the
post you, name it someone's talking about it in the
press that is of a couple of legislators making caddy

(19:19):
comments about a fellow. Legislator's, outfit yeah it, was petty
and a number of you.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Mentioned.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
That also some people, are, saying hey if you're gonna
make those kinds, of judgments you're just showing that you're insecure.
And jealous other people, are, saying hey you wear outfits
like that and you get what.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
You want that's just.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Good politics other people are saying that the press reports
they tend to go a little Harder on Republicans. THAN
democrats i, Don't know i'd have To do i'd have
to do some research on that to see if it.
Was true and another, person said or actually a couple other,
folks said if you are a, public figure you are.
Fair game that would mean, obviously legislators but also people

(19:59):
who do, television, actors actresses, and yeah you put yourself,
out there you're going to be. Fair GAME and i
guess you just got to, ignore it, you know. Ignore it, this,
PERSON though i do want to read one last comment on.
This topic this, PERSON says i. Am autistic it is
OBVIOUS when i interact. With people is it FAIR that

(20:20):
i get called weird all? The Time and i'm going
to go. With no, you know if a person, dresses
inappropriately the guy's got a really silly, comb over or
a gal's wearing a pair of shorts that show her,
BUTT cheeks i think that's. Fair game those are not,
good choices and those people can. Choose otherwise one would

(20:41):
hope they can look in the mirror and, be, like
oh that's a little, too revealing or maybe it's time.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
To get a. Two pay and that's.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
The thing these legislators that took are the ones that make.
Six figures, the congressman. Good grief you can get a nice.
Two pay you could wear, a hat you could, shave
bald you. Got options do not come over the five
strands and call. It good but making fun.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Of people with disabilities is.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Just ridiculous I'M not i, think, pathetic pathetic and wrong
would be THE words i.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
WOULD choose i.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Watch some videos Off of facebook, every morning usually watch
one or Two Called, born different and it's people with
mainly diseases that are genetically connected brittle, bone, syndrome prigeria,
cystic fibrosis forms. Of DWARFISM and i watch THEM because

(21:36):
i find them incredibly INSPIRING as i grapple with some
health issues of, my own to see, how people how
people confront these challenges and, overcome them how they live,
with them how they, have peace how they, find joy
how they learn to. Love themselves those are the THINGS
that i see them DOING that i hope to emulate

(21:58):
and do. Better myself and one thing that's interesting about
a lot of their stories is just how much bullying they,
put up particularly as young people, in, elementary, junior high,
high school and how some of them still have people staring,
Making COMMENTS and i.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Just think who the hell are? These people?

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Good grief why Would you why would you make fun
of somebody with, A disability, i mean like their.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Life is, hard enough why would you?

Speaker 5 (22:29):
DO that i wish there was a way we could
more effectively make fun, of BULLIES because i think they're
the ones that really should be.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Fair game, ALL right i DID promise i would. MOVE
on i do appreciate.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Everyone who texted in at five, six SIX and, i
know including the dude who admitted that he likes to
wear tight clothes because he likes to, show off show
off the goods below. The belt i'm just, Gonna, SAY
glad i don't work, with you, all right move.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
It on.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
A weird trend that's Come to china that, WHO knows
i can all but guarantee it's headed, this way and.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
That this Is A New.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
York post if you're thin on news and you're a,
radio personality and all you have to really do is
go To The New york post and you'll find a
couple of. Gems there this gem of a story, said
stressed talks about stressed results turning to a particular item
to pacify and soothe themselves in times.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Of stress these.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Are adults this particular user says he feels a sense
of safety and just thinking about. His, childhood well, this
trend if, you will is People, in china young adults,
in particular turning to adult, sized, binkies, yes pacifiers the
thing you stick into your six month old's mouth when.

(23:53):
They're crying they are now available in an adult size
for these stressed man or woman you would like to
suck on.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
A pacifier i don't even know what. TO say i.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Suspect it is not a, widespread trend but just stupid
enough on a slow news day to grab the attention of.
This reporter but if it is stupid and It's, in
china where they probably manufacture, these things it is likely
to come this way if you have other stupid trends

(24:28):
you want. To mention this is a, short segment AND
then i promise moving on to something. MORE substantive i
talked about the spandex onesies back in the. Last segment
things that leave nothing to. The imagination also the whole body.
Positivity movement, this is, YOU know i.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Get it it's supposed, to, say hey love your body
for where, it's at wear whatever clothes, you want encouraging
people to wear mid ref tops even if, they've got,
you know rolls of that. STICK out i don't even
own a. MIDRIFT top i don't even know that anyone
over the age of five really should own a.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
Midrift top but flaunt your fat is basically the body
positivity movement's. Main trust my, sister said you, Know, WHAT
krista i want to start a body. Negativity movement cover that,
crap up cover, it up and that goes for you.
Men too are you glad that these fashions that some win,

(25:29):
unfortunately embrace whether it be the spandex onesie or the
frilled midrift top or the. Spandex pants i'm just. Really
Glad and i'm not saying that men don't do plenty of.
Stupid things i'm, just, really really really glad that men
have not embraced. THESE fashions i do not want to

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see men. In spandex, you KNOW.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
If i go to, the, Ballet yeah i'll see, it there.
IT'S fine.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
I don't want to be sitting there at the farmer's
market watching a jillion people walk by.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
And, be like, oh no that dude's, wearing spandex that
dude's In a.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
SPANDEX ONESIE i i don't want TO and i don't
want to see people with adult. SIZED binkys i realized
that everyone's a little anxious, right, now, anxious whiny and.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Rather than, you know man up or, woman up we
are now turning. To binkies to uh make it all better.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Moving that into the next subject, at hand all of
the negative so it's a wonder we don't all. HAVE
bankys i was looking at headlines this Morning and i'm
getting to think that there we're an anxiety nation for.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
A reason it was one warning, after ANOTHER and, i,
THINK uh i think maybe a little context would. Be
helpful so we'll do that when we.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Get back before, we, KOH though i, WANT to i
want to read one, last comment just because it's. Super
thoughtful it will hit, The, Break hi christa enjoining. The
show we shouldn't make fun, of people so can we
not point out?

Speaker 4 (27:11):
THE differences i think people with unflattering clothes choices are
unaware of how others perceive.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Those choices AND what i perceive is icky as a
fifty three year old woman is different for a twenty year.
Old boy but where is the line between making fun
of someone for their choices and what they choose because of?
A disability, i think, YOU know i think that's a very,
thoughtful comment so we'll leave.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
It there This Is.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Christy kafer i'm sitting In For mandy connell and you're
listening to eight.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Fifty kaway it was kind of a, slow newsweek to be.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Totally honest So as i'm, SCROLLING through i Read The,
denver Post The Wall. Street JOURNAL also i take a
LOOK at cnn, Dot com foxnews. Dot COM sometimes i
Look At Colorado. Public radio this is on a, Daily,
basis oh And The, Colorado Sun.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Denver gaze that these are the THINGS that.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
I read i Read The Wall street journal And The
denver post mostly through and through and.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
EVERYTHING else i just sort.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Of spot checks see what's going on and kind of
keep myself in the know As A denver. Post columnist
and news tends to be, predominantly negative and.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
It is is just. That way it's the reason that
way is that life is pretty. Darn good life is pretty.
Darn good so a departure from the good, and anomaly
something that is anomalousts something that, is different. A departure
that's what. News.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Is right nobody just does a story, saying today clean
water came out of the. Faucet today americans, eight today
most people went to.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Work today, you know we were not at, war. Like
right the Normalcy in america.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Is it's kind it's ups and downs at the, individual
level but basically it's pretty darn good. SOCIETY wise, i
mean we ARE not i don't have, Any riots we're not.
At war it's a bit of a drought out In,
the WEST but i think that drought has always. Been
there there are occasionally, problems, tornadoes, hurricanes earthquakes other things.

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That happen those are news because they are a departure from.
The normal the other three hundred and sixty four days
of the year that there were, no, hurricanes, tornadoes hailstorms.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Et cetera so it's. Pretty, good therefore the news is
going to.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
BE bad i assume that in Places, Like, Sudan, gaza
ukraine what would make the news would probably be things that,
are good like part of cities.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Spared FROM bomb i.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Don't know but here news stands to, be Negative and
i'm looking at, the headlines and, YOU know i think
they the reporters were faced with a fairly slow. News
WEEK so i see this one says ultra processed foods
now make up a majority of Food. For americans how
much has, baked goods salty snacks make up fifty. Five

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percent too much unprocessed or ultra processed food leads, to,
obesity diabetes, heart, issues DEPRESSION and, i, thought, well exactly,
pardon me that would have BEEN the i guess the
ultra PROCESSED food i had for lunch causing me. To
cough what exactly is an ultra? PROCESSED food i get

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it if you, you KNOW if i go to the grocery.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
STORE and i get a slim slim gym or a,
some crackers stuff, like that you KNOW it's i assume
it's made it some kind.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Of factory it's probably. Ultra processed but is sushi? ULTRA
processed I mean i didn't catch. THE fish i didn't raise.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
THE rice i didn't go out to the ocean get, the,
seaweed dried, flattened it stuck it. IN there i didn't do.
Those things is that it's supposed to be really good?
For you is it? ULTRA processed i made myself egg,
drop soup, the rice new noodles and beans, for lunch
and you know it, Tasted fine but it is that

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it had those. Rice noodles is it?

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Ultra processed it just seems to me that unless you're
eating like kale, or oranges if it's got some processing,
In it what is the line between ultra processed?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
And.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Processed foods remember that guy who ate what eight McDonald's
for a straight month or straight six months or straight
year or something, like.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
THAT and.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
I ended up getting getting bad health and then did
a movie. About it, i'm like but but no one
eats at McDonald's every day of, The year like nobody.
Does that everybody eats a mix. Of things you eat
too much of, that mix you're gonna. Get Fat EVERY
christmas i put on that required five, ten pounds probably like.

(31:52):
Five pounds and IT'S because i. Like eggnog it's an ultra. Processed,
food obviously it's freakin. Delicious, cookies hi WHATEVER else i want,
To Eat and. I'm not, you know you only, live
Once and i'm kind of on the b side of the.
Record now it's Not like i've got a ton. Of
time WHY would i? Give up WHY would i give

(32:13):
up the? Delicious eggnog WHY would i? Do that other
negative headlines plague Warning. In jeffco apparently cat tested positive
and there's a whole article about how you can. Avoid
plague when was the last time you ned somebody who?
Had Plague m and it's kind of a middle aged
thing now that we have a thing called antibiotics really

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not that big of.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
A deal as long as you get, you know get,
there early get to the doctor and and and get,
those antibiotics you're going to.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Be.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Fine soon the cat's going to be. Fine too and here's.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
The deal unless you've got barn cats, like you, you
know you've got to have your cat outdoors because they're they're.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Keeping the mice away from the.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Horse barn try to keep that, cat indoors keep it
away from songbirds that your cat's gonna automatically want. To
eat i'm just saying public service, announcement there and, THEN oh.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I got to tell you about this when we get
back for. A break so stupid warning on. GAS stoves
i kid.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
YOU not a bunch of legislation that sort of passed
under the radar is now coming. Into effect and Here,
in colorado, WE really, i think are building a really effective.
Nanny state and this is proof positive that we are
making great strides.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
In having a government that can just tell.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Us what, to do because, you know we're not that
smart and we need we need the governor and the
legislature to help.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Us out and they're going to help. Us out in.
The kitchen i'll let you know what kind of awesome law.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
This is and again another reason why, Good, grief republicans
get your.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Act together we have cut to get rid of the
uniparty that has taken over.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
This state we'll do that and some other subjects plus
your comments, at, five, six six nine oh when we.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Get back This Is.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
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Is christy kafer sitting In For, mandy, connell who by,
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Speaker 4 (34:51):
Quite well and we'll be back.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Next week I'm A Sunday denver. Post columnist, in Fact my.
Sunday column you can get a.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Preview of that.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
On line it just just published there and you'll see
it in the physical Paper. On sunday, and yeah and
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better denver? Do better if you're keeping up with the
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Speaker 4 (36:02):
TO do i cannot recommend. Them enough we've been talking
about a lot of.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
INTERESTING subjects i gotta admit we're staying on the, light
side and it's joking with a rod during the break
that yet, you know there have been Shows where i've,
talked about, you know the Tragedy, in Gaza, abortion EUSINASIA
and I just i'm not.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Going there i'm not. Going there. THIS show I Think.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Ross kaminski did a great deep dive.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
On immigration he Talked With. Phil wiser you check out
the podcast you.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Want to, Go deep i'm going a, LITTLE shallow i.
Gotta admit so we've been talking about legislators behaving badly.
Or not what's fair game when it comes to making
fun of people's, clothing choices their. Sartorial choices if, You
Will Anxiety nation What To, fear today and apparently you're

(36:55):
super Anxious, in china the trend is to get an
adult binky to. Soothe Yourself, Anxiety nation What To. Fear,
today also new sanctuary city List is Denver and colorado
still on. The list this is the list that the
administration is going after for sanctuary, city policies, that is

(37:16):
policies that limit how law enforcement can WORK with. Ice
AGENTS and i tend to think there's some good middle, ground,
there OBVIOUSLY if i think you should WORK.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
With ice agents when it comes.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
To criminals, criminal people people who are committing crimes who
are here illegally need to be prosecuted.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
And ultimately need to.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Go home on the, other hand some people who are working,
here illegally maybe they're working over at the meat, packing
plant maybe they're working at, a bakery maybe they're. Picking
vegetables if that person is a victim of, a crime
they need to be able to feel like they can
approach police with out getting, hauled off because they may

(38:04):
be a victim of a, significant crime and if they
feel they can't go to, the police that will be
a miscarriage.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Of justice can you? ACCOMPLISH both i tend to think that.
WE can i don't know that.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
WE are i think it's quite possible that we perhaps
deserve to be on that sanctuary.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
City, LIST also i should.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Say this check me out At At krista Kaefer, on
twitter and you can also text me at five six.'.
SIX nine oh i Just Posted that denver post piece About.
DO better denver i think you'll. Find IT interesting New
cnbc poll take it for. What it's worth DISAPPROVAL for

(38:48):
trumpet i think fifty one percent approval at, forty six,
percent you know for a, second term president that's. Not
too bad generic ballot for next, year twenty six a,
new Election year has democrats up, Forty nine percent republicans at. Forty,
four percent obviously we're pretty pretty far ahead of, that

(39:09):
right now it's, kind OF interesting and, I you know
i get hardball in politics. Is not unusual AND right
now gop legislatures In, Places, Like, Texas florida missouri ohio
are looking at, redistricting jerrymandering frankly To get more republican
Seats to bolster Republican. MAJORITY in congress i Am. A registered,

(39:35):
republican i way way way back IN the.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Day i Was.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
A registered, democrat, i say way we're talking like. Thirty
years Ago i've been republicans since. My mid twenties I've
Left the republican party a number of times when people,
are behaving badly AND this time i decided that the
people who are behaving badly should be the ones to leave.
And Not me so i'm hanging on until we go

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back To being The, party of reagan which may or.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
May not, happen This.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
Person says, krista let's see federal law enforcement agencies support
state and local agencies ALL the time i was jure in,
a MURDER trial the fbi brought the. Most damning evidence
state and local should reciprocate. Across the board other thoughts
on federal law enforcement agencies and cooperation with with our.

(40:30):
Local agencies here ideas you've got about being a sanctuary
city by all means text me at five six. Six
NINE er but i got to get to THE topic
that I promised before i went. ON a BREAK i
know i have a tendency to wonder if following rabbit
trails is, NOT your bag i might be a difficult.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Host to.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
FOLLOW who knows i talked about stupid warnings forced on
products because of our. Nanny state government we have a Suit,
majority of Democrats of liberal democrats here, in the state
and they seem to think that if they slap, warnings
on things that we'll just get real scared and we'll

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just stop. Getting, those products well the stupid warning that
went into effect this week is they now we're requiring
warnings on. Gas, gas, stoves okay right some people, have
gas stoves some people.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Have electric stoves warning.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
About, air quality now, keep in mind there is absolutely
no scientific consensus that gas stoves. Impair, air quality basically this.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Is a whole.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Global warming gibbick they blame global warming, on natural gas
even though it is a fairly clean. Burning energy source
they would like all of our products to. Be ELECTRIC
only AND i guess i put somebody like. ME in
violation i do not have. A gas stove i wouldn't
mind having. A gas stove THEY'RE great for i do have,

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a GAS fireplace and i have a boiler heating system that,
is pretty, new pretty efficient but.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
It's not electric and here's.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
The nice thing is if the power were to go
out out, of my neighborhood which occasionally does, in THE
winter if, I have to i can heat my entire
house on my gas stove because it is not connected to.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
The ELECTRICAL system so i.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
Get to stay and when WE were when i, was
a kid we had a, wood BURNING stove and i.
Remember that happening we were out of power for days On, End,
in littleton colorado back, in the eighties and we just,
heated our house lit kerosene lamps. And stuck around other people.
Had to leave, AND you know i have like two,
thousand HOUSE plants so i got a clamp.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Down and stay leaving and letting my plants die is just.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
NOT an option I don't think i could fit all
of MY plants, BE i know i can't.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Fit all my plants.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
IN my car i have a couple of Tree sized
plants i'm a little bit of. A plant addict cut
myself off from buying new plants a couple, of years
ago fell off the wagon a couple weeks ago and bought.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Two Outdoor plants but i'm trying to trying to get back.
On the wagon but.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Stupid warnings on gas stoves warning us that somehow were
contributing to global warming by having a gas stove and
that we should buy the electric, Alternative Is ridiculous and
i'm glad there is a lawsuit by manufacturers saying this
is just not.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Going to work this is not going to. Pass constitutional muster.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
Earlier this year lawmakers considered requiring gas station owners to
put similar, warnings on pumps basically warning that if you
were using this product you were gassing, up your car
that you were contributing to global warming in the death
of The plant it and, my thought was?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
This is?

Speaker 4 (44:02):
It you KNOW global warming i. BELIEVE is real i.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Do think that human beings have contributed to natural phenomenon
through the burning. OF fossil fuels i have a relatively.
SMALL carbon footprint i live in, A small house i have.
A small car i don't live. An OSTENTATIOUS lifestyle and
I got admit i kind of resent when people who
do have a lavish lifestyle, a large, HOUSE house says

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i should say in the case of our Sanctimonious stars
in hollywood and our politicians who own house, says large
houses fly in, their own jets, own large cars take.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Vacations on yachts YOU know when, I you know i'm
lucky to get. IN A rowboat i.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
I just don't think you're one to talk ABOUT global
warm i pass the mic to somebody who, IS.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
You know i don't care how many trees you plant in.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Your spare time you own several houses over five thousand
square feet that you. HEAT and cool i own an
eaty bitty one thousand, Square foot house so don't talk
to me. About my stove don't pass the mic to
somebody who might be a. Little more legitimate but the
idea that that legislators want to slap warnings on, gas

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station PUMPS warnings that i think the vast majority of
people are simply. Going to disregard and even if we,
don't disregard them what are we? Supposed To do like
i'm gassing up my Little car, and, I'm like oh
i'm contributing. TO global warming i better go drop seventy
thousand dollars on an electric?

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Vehicle right now Is that what i'm?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
GOING to, DO, i mean i for, the, MOST part,
TELECOMMUTE i write i do a number. OF other things,
i Drive places but i'm not driving. Places EVERY day
am i supposed, to be like. YOU know what i
know it'll take, me THREE hours But i think i'll
bike to. MY next appointment i know it'll take, three,
bus CHANGES transfers But i think i'll go ahead and.
Take the bus this warning has really inspired me to be.

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A better person to be. A, BETTER person no i.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Don't, Think, so so.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
NO thank you I back when, i smoked cigarettes which
was a. LONG time ago I quit when i, was
twenty seven we used to when we get a, pack
of cigarettes we would take the top of it and
then slip it down underneath the cellophane to cover up
the warning.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
AS a joke.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
I GOTTA admit if i bought a gas stove and
it had a, warning on it THE first thing i
would do.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Is, peel That off because i'm not going, to, BE
like oh i better, take this back better buy.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
The Approved To the jared polis approved electric oven that
will not.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Warm, THE planet. YEAH i don't i think it's going.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
TO be okay i think a lot of us have
cut back on, our global footprint and the people who
most need to cut back on their global footprint are
often the ones that are preaching at Us, that are
yeah they're the ones that are preaching at us when
they're the ones that own, multiple large, houses multiple cars

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and sometimes, even an airplane while the rest, OF us are,
i don't. Know taking coach we're lucky to. Travel at
all this person coming in.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
On the tax line at five SIX six, AND i
know christi can we get a lot pass That legislators
in colorado must wear a sticker that say they're owned.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
BY trial lawyers i think that, might be uh that
might be a good idea for a little bit of,
truth in, advertising.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Because yeah or how about owned owned?

Speaker 5 (48:04):
By ex lobbyist and you have to like talk about
who not not everybody's body that. Contributes to you sometimes
people like they like what, you stand for they, like
your platforms so they.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Contribute, To you right not all contributions or, are are.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Suspect but there are legislators out there that are whether,
it's you know a philosophical alignment or a financial arrangement
or both are kind of owned by the people, that
pay them, that persuade them that speak Into.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
THEIR ear and i think in this case those that
are owned by the trial lawyers perhaps ought to disclose
that to the. Rest of us, this.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Person says the resources it takes to build all of
the components of an electrical vehicle electric vehicle far outweigh
the good in this good it supposedly.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Does for environment, and you know there's some, TRUTH of
that a. Lot of that those big batteries, take rare earths,
things like cobalt.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
That make it a bit of a draw when it
comes to the impact. To THE environment christ i bet
you cut the tag. OFF your MATTRESS i should.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
I have not I don't. Think I have maybe i
should cut off the tag. ON my mattress i distinctly
have a do not tell me what to do part.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Of my personality i'm one of those people that if
you ask if you ask, me for Something chances are.
I'LL do it i like to, MAKE people happy i.
Like to share but if you tell me, WHAT to
do i flat out.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
WON'T do it i obviously if.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
IT makes sense i do mostly abide, by traffic, laws for,
example laws suggestions things that make. Sense to, ME of
course i will abide by things. That make sense try
to push me into, doing SOMETHING.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Arbitrary and i. WON'T do, it i mean it was
like me and like one other guy at the grocery
STORE back during covid that.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Weren't WEARING masks like i didn't give. PEOPLE dirty looks
i didn't bug people for their. Own PERSONAL choices but
i didn't.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
WEAR a mask i just. Wasn't MY thing if i
was in a store and the owner asked me to
put on a mask because, THAT'S their store i would
put on a mask because.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
It's their store. They CAN ask but. I just didn't
i didn't wear a. MASK at church i didn't wear
a mask at. The grocery store i'd be standing in
line outside places like, the Botanic.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Gardens and i'd be like the only one not. Wearing
a mask SOME as people i, was, with friends family they'd.
BE wearing masks i just wasn't gonna. Wear a mask i'd.
Done the research it didn't make. SENSE to me i
never ACTUALLY.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
DID get covid i wrote a COLUMN about why i wasn't,
wearing a mask AND of course i got a whole bunch, of, nasty.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Tweets comments emails.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Letters to THE editor saying i hope, you die well
so all those folks out THERE that.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Wished i was. IN the grave i ACTUALLY. NEVER got
covid i. Tested for YEARS every time i, GOT the,
sniffles I tested and i. Never Got it.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Apparently i'm immune, KNOCK on wood i. Did get vaccinated
i'm a big, fan Of vaccines but i'm just not
one to.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Do what people try to push me into doing unless
it makes. Sense to me and.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Social distancing and mask wearing just. WEREN'T my thing i
didn't think either, of THEM worked and i, didn't do
it saying goes for the don't buy stuff powered by
electric by. A natural gas i have, a small house
not feeding a. LOT of mouths i think we're going.

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To be okay, this person says believing you can change the,
climate is arrogant especially when it's all about. Power and
money i'm not so sure. IT'S that simple i do
appreciate that we're shutting down some of. The coal plants
coal is pretty carbon intensive. Product energy source it also

(52:15):
releases a lot of other not so good things, into
the air and then the ash that's left over is.
Pretty nasty stuff so getting, rid of coal and we
are slowly doing that. As a STATE we've, got i
believe eleven coal, plants still operational and within a couple

(52:36):
of years they will all be converted to natural gas
supplemented by, wind and solar and we got. PLENTY of
wind i definitely have mixed feelings. ABOUT wind turbines i
believe that they are a good source of income for
a lot of, farmers out there and that's. A good
thing they are a good, source of energy, but those blades,

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those giant blades.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Are not cyclable they have to, be you know cut
up and.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
Put, into landfills also wind turbines kill upwards of about
a million birds a year and.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
A million bats maybe it's a. Half a million i'll.
LOOK it up. I promise yes it kills a lot
a lot of birds and a. Lot of bats so
you can't have them anywhere that there is a migratory
where there's migration of.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
BIRDS or bats a lot of these species, are beleaguered
anyhow we certainly don't need more of them laying. On
the ground, and so, yeah you, know like anything there
are benefits and. There are costs and when it comes,
to wind turbines great, source of energy but there's definitely a.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Downside to that same. Goes for solar i'm all for,
solar on buildings the, big solar farms though where they
like cover the, Land in panels i'm not, So it's
ugly so don't do that in.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
A national park if you want to do it on,
your own land people will farm in between the solar
planels and produce both vegetables as well. As as power
that's a great thing. To natural gas it's a pretty clean. Burning,
fossil fuel also, nuclear very clean.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Does not have.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Any, carbon emissions obviously have to deal with, the spent
rods and you got to have a place to, put those,
ultimately AND nobody and i mean nobody wants that, in
their backyard so that. Makes, it difficult, so you know there's.
Drawbacks To everything in my issue is that there are
too many politicians out there saying that their form of

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energy has, absolutely no downside and everybody else's favorite source
is a course awful.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
For the environment when, we.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
Get back we've got some interesting comments coming in on our, tech, line,
five six six, nine to, zero and yeah we'll.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Talk.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
About that Then This. Is christa kafer i'm Sitting In.
For manny connell you're listening TO. Eight fifty koa i'm
talking about a lot, of different issues including this new
requirement to put warnings. On gas stoves. I'm not talking
it's Not like like i've, got a. Boiler gas boiler
it's not that.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
IT'S my. Mind i understanding it's. Gas cooking stoves some
people have, gas cooking stoves some. PEOPLE have electric i
have an. Old electric. Stove i'm cheap unless a appliance
dies and, is completely dead cannot be resurrected brought, BACK
to life i will keep it till. The BITTER end
so i have a twenty year Old refrigerator that.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
I've repaired myself the key is to get things that
are not that don't have, bells AND whistles like i
don't want to talk.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
To my refrigerator with.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
MY cell phone i don't want the ice thing or.
THE water thing i want it to be just a
simple appliance that does what it's. Supposed to do and
what my experience is that you, go that route you
go with the cheaper. Most basic thing. It'll PROBABLY last
so i have like a twenty year old washer. Dryer
combined unit i've got a twenty. Year old refrigerator. MY

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dishwasher died i just went and found like a Free
one on facebook marketplace and. Put it in it's about.
Nine years old it was an expensive unit when, it
was new but. It's WORKING great and i, have an
old really kind of, ugly ELECTRIC stove and i won't
be upgrading anytime soon because, As a.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Rule i'm cheap maybe the word is broke.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
And don't upgrade so somebody just, texted and said love
it when, you fill in but you're dead wrong on
gas stoves.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
And a home i'm, a home builder and the way
we build.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Houses today We wrap with tyvek, tape every seam install various,
sealed windows that combined with the carbon monoxide generate from
heating your house with, your gas stove will. Eventually, KILL
you fortunately i own a very leaky house from, the
nineteen fifties so it is, not sealed uptight, although it,
is you know under The modern siding i've put on

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it underneath that is as.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Beest AS sighting so i guess. We're relatively, fireproof but
yeah it's a little on, the LEAKY side BUT i
do i don't actually heat my house with.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
MY gas fireplace i just have that as a kind.
Of A backup less. I enjoy it, IN the winter
i have irrelatively new. AND efficient boiler i can't say
enough about hot water heat so much better. Than a
Furnace and then i've got a, nice SWAMP cooler so
i am. Good to go THE last thing i need
on anything is the warning from some sanctimonious legislator who

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lives in a house five times the, size of mine
who drives a, much larger car who flies in.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Their own jet that's not the case for a lot
of People In.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
THE general assembly, I GET that but i don't need any,
of those folks and certainly Not people in congress who do.
MAKE six figures i don't need those folks issuing me,
warnings and, SAYING you know i know you just bought,
this gas stove but it's gonna be bad and and
you need to you need to take it back and

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get yourself.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
AN electric one i. Don't, Think so no and if.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
You're gonna put if you're gonna put warnings on the
gas stations which they were going to try to do.
That this year luckily the legislation, died in committee but
they were. Gonna put warnings you know you're contributing to
global warming by. Purchasing, this, Product okay sure i'm gonna
go drop seventy thousand dollars on. An electric Vehicle you
know i'm gonna go park my car now and. Take

(58:45):
the Bus i'm Gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna buke three
hours to. My next appointment. NOT a problem i think
most of us are aware of both the costs and benefits.
Of our choices and until these legislators get themselves in
line start living the lifestyle that they, advocate, for others
MAYBE just maybe i could go. Without their Warnings.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
This, person texans says did we say we are or are.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Not on the sanctuary? List This morning the trump administration may. Have,
been yesterday okay sometime in the last twenty four, hours
or so they issued, a new list a revised list.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Of SANCTUARY cities.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
And i look To see If colorado or denver we're still,
on the, list and yes we are still. On the,
LIST and yeah i think we actually have gone too
far in preventing law enforcement FROM. WORKING with ice i
do think some middle ground is possible where people, who
are illegally if they are a victim, of a crime

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can still feel like they can. APPROACH law enforcement i.
Think that's important we don't need. People out there give,
a quick example someone my relative works with been beat up,
by her boyfriend wanted to, go to police was afraid because.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
She's not legal those are the kinds of situations where.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
You, can say hey we want to make sure that
we have things in place so that people feel that
they can go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
To law enforcement they're not going to.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Automatically be reported on, the other hand if you are
IN jail, and, i says hey who?

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
You got there or we happen to be looking, for
this person can?

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
You help us we need to be, helping law enforcement
FEDERAL law enforcement ice get criminal aliens. Out of here
you're going to come to, this country illegally work on
the down low at some, meat packing plant, or pick
crops or work in. A, nursing home fine you're going
to come here and deal drugs? Or, hurt people yes

(01:00:51):
what it's time. To go home it's time? To GO
home can? I, say so yes we are. On the
sanctuary list back. To the appliances, This person says amen.
About your appliances my fridge is twenty, nine years old
dryer the. SAME done repairs i stove was replaced two
years ago because the control board was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
No longer available THAT'S that's what i find that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
People are experiencing you get a, brand new, appliance very
expensive full of, bells and whistles it lasts like seven.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Years by, an old unit and it goes on and.
ON and on i.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Kid you not i'm really good friends with my great
aunt BACK in when I, lived IN. Washington d c She,
lived in baltimore and in her basement she had a
refrigerator from, the nineteen fifties one of those, ones that's
round so made, up all steel kind of, like round
top short, made of steel itty, bitty freezer compartment and

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that thing was, still chugging along like, fifty years. Later
still fine she had a freezer from, the nineteen seventies like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
A deep.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Frazer was fine and, then you know other people, will,
BE like yeah i bought this, this, whatever refrigerator stove
et cetera five years ago, And IT'S dead AND i
think i hate TO say this i do not believe
in conspiracy theories.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
AS a rule i tend to.

Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
Think THEY'RE stupid but i got a hunch that these
appliances are made. To fail early they're made to, be
replaceable early they're made to last.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Under ten YEARS and.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Sometimes i just think that it smart to buy an
older unit and, stick with that or buy, a simple
unit something that does not have any. Bells and whistles
my car has two hundred and thirty thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Miles on, it you know it's.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Getting up there it's. Getting up there but it's. A
stick shift i replaced the clutch at one hundred and,
fifty thousand miles, and you know little things here and
there go. Here and there but it's a pretty. Stripped
Down vehicle and i'm thinking that might be the.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Way to go and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
HERE'S the deal i don't want to talk to my
coffee maker on. MY cell phone i want to just
make the coffee. TURN it on i don't need to
turn it on. FROM another location i don't need to start.
The washer drawer i've got to load in the washing,
machine RIGHT now and i need to put it. In

(01:03:29):
the dryer i'll go ahead and DO that when. I
get home i don't need to talk to The unit.
While i'm here. It'll be, fine but yeah bells and
whistles tend to make, sure that appliances all these LITTLE
extra things i think tend to guarantee a fail sooner
or later when we get to we're gonna coming up on,

(01:03:51):
another break here and we'll hit the subject a couple
other ones when.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
WE get, back.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Knew Can you james carble. IS still, Alive i mean
i'm happy for him. And his WIFE but when i
see him like making Comments about what democrats.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Ought to, Do i'm, like moy's like how old? IS
he now i guess. Good for him he.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Still get impressed but what he Had to say dems
should do to Catch up with republicans by. Next year's
election we'll get to that plus your comments when. We
get back This is christ kaye for Sitting In. For
mandy connell you're listening TO. Eight fifty koa.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
These folks here twenty five year old gas.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
Dryer and replians repair man fixed it for about the
same cost as. A new dryer we chose to go
with the older repair because it, would last longer, per
his suggestion so the, repairman was, like you know stick with,
the old one, and he said he, being the repairman
said that appliance has wear out because of energy requirements

(01:04:54):
for the components that don't have the same, life as
older less. Energy efficient models and then, this, person says
cheers keep up, the good, work thank you appreciate that
singer sewing machines used to be made with metal. Parts
and gears they found that they were being passed down
through the generations instead of younger, generations buy new so
they started making them with plastic, parts in gears so

(01:05:16):
they wouldn't last as long and generations would have. To
buy new, another texter says it's, called controlled upsolescence and
they do it with.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Phones AS well. AND i do i have an, old
sewing machine my mom's actually it was.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
My grandmother's machine it's, not late forties so it's not the,
old old singers but. It's all METAL and then i
have a newer machine from, the late eighties which is,
plastic AND metal.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
And i actually.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
Use them both and WHAT'S interesting is i use the
old one more mostly because it's like set, in a
cabinet just makes it really really. Easy to use so sometimes.
Older is better sometimes. Older is better, This.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Person says chris rookie numbers. On your car i've got
three hundred and thirty five thousand On.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
My, manual tacoma yeah there's something, about A manual and
i actually would like to stick with a manual car
for the rest. Of my life most of my cars,
Have been manuals and THE car THAT i wished i
had been a. MANUAL that wasn't i had a beautiful
Eight cylinder, red mustang convertible just beauty.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Of a car but it. WAS an automatic i, bought
it used so IT'S not like i had the, option,
OF saying no i want this in.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
A stick shift but the problem with an automatic is
it doesn't get as good. As gas, mileage it doesn't
it doesn't, last as long and you can't get the
most out.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Of your vehicle so with, a.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Fast car if you have, a stick shift you can
really top up those gears and really get that car
going a much greater degree than. With an automatic and
with the kind, OF car drive i have a car.
That can climb, it's not fast but it. CAN off
road I find that i get the most out of
its six cylinders because it's not a. Terribly fast CAR

(01:07:03):
but because i can really kind of grind, UP those,
GEARS i can i can.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
Motivate it, when ABSOLUTELY necessary and. I appreciate it i
like accept, that's old school which is Probably good, because i'm.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
OLD oldish older i don't know when. WE get back
i just put out my Column For. The denver post
it is Available At the. Denver, post's website obviously if
you're Following me On Twitter, at christa kafer you can
you can pick. It UP there and i took on
a little CONTROVERSIAL subject and i took the opposite stance

(01:07:39):
Of My, friend jimmy singenberger who you've heard here also
on eight fifty k Away Subbing, for mandy connell, that
in fact it, Is do better denver that, should do
Better Not. The DENVER post and i know. What you're, thinking, you're,
thinking yeah well you Work For. The denver post of
course you Would Take the. Denver post side AND you

(01:08:00):
know i do happen To Love my. Denver post FAMILY
but as i break, DOWN the issue i think You'll find.
That I'm, Right, do benver Denver Not, the denver post
is the one who ought to, Be doing better and
that would come Back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
In the meanwhile one more comment on this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
Last subject on i've started off with warnings on gas
stoves thanks to our, nanny state legislators and then kind
of drifted into why, old is better like to think
that's true for us human, beings as well that older appliances.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Do last longer, THIS person.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Said i have a two hundred and sixty four thousand
miles on My Twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Tesla, model THREE interesting but i love driving a.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
STICK shift, too, i, heard though though with, the electric
cars that the, battery goes out the car's kind of
done for that most of the money is, in The
battery so i'm a little hesitant to get a. BATTERY
operated cards i WOULDN'T mind having i wouldn't mind.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
HAVING a hybrid i DID notice that, i LOVE jeeps
and i did notice that there Is. A new, jeep
I mean all jeeps, are just beautiful But a new
jeep that is electric or perhaps.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Perhaps is a it's either, electric arts hybrid but oh
IT is absolutely i. Absolutely, love it well let's wait
to sort of hit the end of this particular SUCH
a although i have to say, this, person says okay,
must be tough. Being, twenty six yes.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
It is tough. IT is tough i am indeed that
young if Only This. Is christa gaber i'm Sitting In
for mandy connell with a, rod helping out and you're
listening to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
A Fifty Koa The mandy connell show Is sponsored By,
Belle and Pollock.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Accident, and Lawyers no it's mandy connellyn on Koa.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Ninem.

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
God, way, connall no really sad bab, Love That Song.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Love mandy Connall This is Krista caper and i'm Sitting.
In from mandy should be back next week and, she's
doing great which. Makes, me happy also a rod is
uh hanging. Up behind It he's a he's gonna Be
Doing the, manitou incline tomorrow which.

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
Is pretty cool dam might be running to that person right.
THERE the airhorn i just Did the wine yogi friend.
Of the show apparently we'll be up around the same.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Time as. ME oh nice. I, LIKE that yeah. I Like,
that it's.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
UH it's TOUGH i did i did it two years ago,
and uh yeah but it's. VERY very gratifying i love
it so uh if you're, just tuning, in you're like
who The Heck is Krista Caper My. Sunday denver post,
i'm a columnist and you don't, subscribe the post you
could check me out at substack as.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Substack dot com just put it In My.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Name christa kaefer you. Can subscribe there you can. Get
my columns you can contribute if. You want to would
love it, if you did but, if you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
That's okay too i've.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Covered a lot of kind of, just, lighter subjects behavior,
legislators behaving badly, the anxiety nation stuff, that scares us.
WARNINGS on, ovens i mean just a lot. Of random topics,
and you know IN the past i was telling This.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
To ay rod It's not like i'm afraid to dig into.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
The heavy.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
Stuff heaven knows i've talked about Abortion, use in Asia,
tragedy and gauza.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
You name it i've talked about it, on the air
and every.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
Now and, again i'm thinking, you know what we're going
to stay in the shallow end. Of, the pool well
let's drift on over something just a. Little bit deeper
it's the Subject Of my denver post column which. Just
came out if you Go To at Christa, KAFER on
twitter i just. Posted, it there also you could just
go Straight To the denver post pick.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
It up there if, you don't subscribe what kind of
say you won't be able? To read it and do.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
YOURSELF a favor i LOVE it when i post a
column and then people, don't read it and then they
give a comment that has like nothing to do. With
the column like it's pretty clear they. Didn't read it
they DON'T know what. I really THINK it's like i don't,
agree with you. Blah blah BLAH i'm like i, Never said,
that so yeah, do you know don't comment unless you actually.
Read the column please do. Yourself a favor, Five SIX

(01:12:32):
six and i know if you want, to WEIGH in
and i gotta met you might disagree with me. On This,
one jimmy sangenberger the the other person who has Been,
subbing for mandy wrote a Column In. The denver gazette
he takes. The opposite position i've. Read his column you
may not Know, this About jimmy but jimmy is it's great. On, the,

(01:12:53):
HARMONICA yeah far i just.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
Yeah if his his harmonica ability FAR exceeded. What I
thought yeah i thought.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
He, could do yeah he's literally he. Is damn good
the man has an inner soul that comes out somehow
in this his ability to, play the blues. It's PRETTY
amazing but i do. Think he's Wrong In his, denver
gazette piece he takes the Side Of, do better denver
which is a social media Account tweeting ON twitter or x.

(01:13:28):
IF you prefer i think They're. Also on instagram i'm
not Cool. Enough for INSTAGRAM i'll ADMIT i think i,
have AN account but i.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Don't FOLLOW it maybe i just just don't give a
damn what other, people are. Doing wearing WHATEVER but when
i did subscribe To, to that instagram THE only one
i followed was it. Was a guy he Lives, somewhere
in asia and he is a prairie dog and he
would make really cool little outfits for.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
The prairie dog and that's THE only account. I was
FOLLOWING and, THEN i, thought i know probably have better
things to do. WITH my time i HAVE to admit
i probably blow a good half hour A day On.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
TWITTER and facebook i don't.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
Need ANOTHER one but i, Will say this shane gillis
the funniest comedian to have ever. Walked the, earth every
morning just to get into a Better mood because i'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
A morning person i watched just A Couple of.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Shane gillis clips if if you want to watch somebody
who is laugh, out loud funny you Never Heard. Of
Shane gillis ay. ROD he is i just think he's
and he's easy. On the ice he's, REALLY. Cute too u.
But he's funny he's. Just absolutely funny have you? Heard
of him, you're you know you're.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
ABOUT his age i. Think he is he. IS very
funny i would you know if he.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Comes to town i'm going to. GO see him i
never say that ABOUT anybody because i don't like.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
To get out he knocked it out of the park.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
With.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
The sps oh.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
He's so funny and His impression of, Trump is hilarious like,
it's not disrespectful it's. Just extremely funny and because he.
Just he's hilarious but he's kind of on, the conservative
side kind, of a mishmash but he's like a regular
guy and.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
He's SUPER funny. But i digress, SO and okay i
digressed quite, A bit, there but yeah So.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
Do better denver they don't have a, website per se,
or they may but at least They have a Twitter and.
An instagram presence they show videos of people behaving badly.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
And they put it to, music, and it's frankly it's.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
Kind of funny and as somebody who's seen the, PEOPLE
behaving badly i get why.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
THEY do, IT i mean i had the.

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
Displeasure of seeing a dude WITHOUT pants and i. Was
driving downtown, it wasn't yesterday but one of. MY trips
downtown i do some television Stuff over at Channel twelve and,
I'm you know i'm trying to get, to this, interview
and yeah there's a dude. WITH no pants i just
thank god that he. DIDN'T turn around i just, saw

(01:15:57):
the backside which.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
Was bad, enough but yeah, people without pants people.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
Bathing in public people doing, drugs in public people, in
their needles people not caring, for their kids begging.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Like it's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
People BEHAVING badly and i will say there are fewer
vagrant encampments than there were even a couple. Of years
ago my understanding is that some of these folks are
being put up in hotels.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
On, the TAXPAYER'S dime which i have issues. WITH as
well i think that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
If you're, going to, be you know getting, off the
street finding, a better, life getting sober getting a job,
is really important but there needs to be there needs
to be, some compassion there and there needs to be.
Some tough love people should be able to get a little,
bit of help but over time that help needs to
be phased out as that person steps back into their life,

(01:16:53):
with a job with staying sober. And So forth so
i'm all for Says Like The, denver Rescue mission step
denver and others that, take folks in get them, off
the street get them, a fresh start very generous in
terms of, putting people up putting them through the steps,

(01:17:14):
of gaining sobriety getting in some cases, mental health support,
job finding support. And SO forth but i don't think
people ought to just get, a FREE ride.

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
And i, HAVE.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
You know i get the whole impetus. Behind harm, reduction.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
You know if people, have clean needles at least they
won't be, getting appatitis.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
AIDS et cetera, i get that but as, A tax
payer i don't want. TO fund it i think it
definitely needs to.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
Be PRIVATELY funded, and i, think you know helping people
get sober and getting when people are breaking the law
out in, public smoking, pot you know putting needles, in their, arms, breaking,
stuff vandalizing, bathing. BEING naked whatever i think jail is

(01:18:05):
probably a good. Place To be and i'm also, all for, involuntary.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
You.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
KNOW involuntary institutionalization i Know There's some supreme court decisions
that make that a. Little more difficult there's. Nothing wrong
people there's no shame in being mentally ill any more
than there's shame in. Being physically ill but getting people
the help they need sometimes means putting them.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Somewhere where they can.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Get that help AND the day i went To get
A starbucks and i walked Up To the starbucks dore,
and it's locked and somebody comes to the, door, and
says way we had to lock the door because there's
this person out there that's been. Assaulting our, customers and
yeah there was a guy having a conversation with like
five other people. WHO weren't there a person was obviously

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on drugs and mentally ill and in needing to be
in an institution where he can get the help, that
he needed and yet there he was being a danger
and driving business away. From a business so, it's you
know these are. NOT easy situations i don't have a
Problem With do better denver showing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
People acting badly we're hitting a quick break. On this one.
We GET back so i also don't have a problem with.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
A journalist taking a deep dive and a serious look
at a social media account that is posting. PICTURES of
people i will defend the journalist. On this one it,
was not docsing it was.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Doing her job This.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
Is christ kafer i'm Sitting In for mandy connell and
you are listening TO. Eight FIFTY koa so i just
published a Column With the Denver Post About.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Do better denver this is a social.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
Media, account that highlights through video, put to music people Behaving.
Badly in denver and the point of this is to
show that there's a lot, of lawlessness happening, and it's
happening and.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Here it is let's. See it now One Thing That
do better denver is not is it's not. A journalistic
website it says, they're citizen journalists but. BUT they're, not
i mean let's get down. To definitions here they are
basically a sort of advocacy.

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
Social media group they're advocating for different policies by showing.
People BEHAVING badly and i AM not unsympathetic i don't
want to see. OPEN drug use i don't want. TO
smell pot i don't want to see. PEOPLE'S naked butts
i don't want to. SEE these things i want. It
to stop but one thing that it does not provide

(01:20:43):
is it Does not provide. Number one context it was
actually a lot more crime back. IN the nineties i
remember the shootings of. The early nineties you, couldn't you
know seem like, five points, was you know kind of.
A danger zone now you can go there and there's
all kinds, of you know great.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Restaurants and whatnot so.

Speaker 5 (01:21:04):
Does, it provide context and sometimes it, provides inaccurate information
provides a, lot of conjecture a. Lot of rumor websites
like this social media activists like this are not beholden
to any.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Kind of standard they can put.

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
Anything they want, they could say rumor has it that
these gang members are escorting, the you know the firemen,
around this building when in fact they Weren't And the
denver placeness didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Bother show up well that's. Not true either they, it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
Put, stuff you know they make a little misinformation. With
their information they mix a little bit of rumor in.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
With their.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
Facts they are i'm not saying they're. NOT worth watching
i do like the fact that they put. Music to
it they're not worth following. On, social media well one
thing that, they are not and it should be, kept
in mind is that they're not really, they're not transparent,
they're not accurate and they're not ultimately the accountable in
the sense that we don't know actually know. Who they

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are they're. An anonymous, site now again not saying that they,
don't have value just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
That they are.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
What, they are well a journalist by The Name of
shelley Bradbury With the denver post decided to do. A
deep dive she was contacted by a member of the, public,
who said hey check, this, place out right it's this
anonymous website that shows video video of. People behaving badly
but it's not, like you know it's like they're getting
permission to show these people then showing people identifying people,

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on their.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Website, and.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:36):
Check them out so she checked them out and looked
into what they were doing and found out using so
you CAN use these korra requests where you can get information.
From government agencies found out who some OF the main
cora requesters were, talk to, them contacted them, talk to
them found out that two of them are.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Out of state maybe you think that's, a useful information and.
Maybe you don't it's.

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
Up to you and wrote an article about the women
who aren't these these three women who are not the
administrators but who had contributed. A fair amount talked about
some of the things that, have been posted so the
content some. Of the contributors, basically, the, who what where?
Why and when which, is the, basics.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
The bones, if you will of, any news story regardless
of what. You're writing about Wrote About.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
This do.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
Better denver website she was. Doing her job that's. What
JOURNALISTS do and i say to someone who is, Not
a journalist. I'm a commentator. I'M a columnist i talk,
on the air talk on the, AIR on radio I.
TALK on tv i Put Out A sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
DENVER post column i have a sub sac a tweet.
ON my own i am.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
NOT a journalist i am part. Of the media, i'm
A commentator But i am i'm. Not a journalist i'm.
Not a reporter there was A time and i may
go back TO it where i wrote Fine. Articles for
westward it's sort, of feature like but. KIND of newsy
i guess YOU could say i was a reporter, in
That context but i'm.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Not a reporter. Cracks me up but, people, are like well.
You're so, biased, i'm like duh. That's my job.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
I'M a commentator I comment and i'm all opinion. All,
the time well reporters really have to avoid putting their own.
Opinion in there they have to report, on, the, who
what where why and when of whatever. They're writing About is,
what bradbury did and then somebody called in and said
they were the administrator, of the site but refused to.

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Give their Name and, the denver posts like most papers don't.
DO anonymous, stuff i mean every now and again they may,
quote somebody anonymously but. It's very rare they really want
to make sure that, everything is attributed that you can
and you can find the source of whatever has been

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the information, that's been provided. And that's important back in
the days, of yellow journalism back in, the eighteen, nineties for, example.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
People, had you know when they. Used bogus sources. They
sourced anybody they'd say somebody, was an expert who knows.
Who they were they.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Had anonymous sources there was no accountability and his papers
moved out of yellow journalism into the institution. That they
are they, adopted ethics standards and one of them is
making sure that they. Attribute their Information So, the denver
post like a, lot of papers just doesn't do anonymous

(01:25:32):
interviews unless it's, something you know if, it's you know
a Person, who escaped afghanistan who is you, Know being
hunted there might be a situation where anonymity is important
in a, very extreme case but for the most part they.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Don't do, it in FACT one.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
Time i wanted to quote somebody anonymously on my column and, my, editor, said.
No no sorry either they have to agree to be
feature you, know their name or we can't put. Them
IN there and, i SAID okay and i took. The,
quote out well this person calls, in, And says hey.
I'm an administrator you can you, can quote me. But
you can't i'm not going to TELL you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Who i am i'm not going to provide any ACTUAL
proof that I am WHO i.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
SAY i am i just want you to interview me
and put the information. In, your article well you can't
use a, journalist like that you. Can't, do, it Well
hey look i'm over time on this we get back
catch your comments on.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
This particular subject at five six Six nine to ozer
and talk to you a. Little bit more Why Do?

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
Do better Denver Not the denver post is the one
who needs. To do Better this is chris de kay
for Sitting In. For mandy connell you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Are listening TO eight fifty koa talking.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
A little bit about My Most recent denver post Column On,
do BETTER denver and i not have a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
WITH its existence i think it does provide some value
in showing that people are doing lawless. Things around town
but let's. Just be honest it's. An advocacy website they don't.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
Have any accountability they mix in, truths with misinformation they.
Don't provide context they. Do provide value i'm not contesting.
That AT all and i like the fact that they
put the. VIDEOS to music i. Find that amusing they
got the attention of a reporter thanks to a member of, the,
public saying hey check. This place out reporter did a, very,

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thoughtful piece where when and why?

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Of this organization? What's their intent what, are they doing
what do? They get right what do? They get wrong
what do? They?

Speaker 5 (01:27:38):
Call themselves identified some major contributors administrator would, not, come
forward says you know they don't want to. Give, their
name well. Here's the thing if you want to be,
a real journalist you got to. Give, your name yeah
that's why. JOURNALISTS have bylines i am not. A real
journalist i.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Am a commentator, i'm a columnist and my name, is
out there and YOU better bet i.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
GET death threats i get death threats from, the right,
end the, left, nasty comments rolling all. Kinds of stuff
THERE'S a reason i have SECURITY system because i.

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
Don't know if any of those people are going to take.

Speaker 5 (01:28:12):
THE extra step i. Hope they don't but, There you go,
there you go, this person says texting in at five sixty.
Six nine zero many of the posts are sent. By
first responders this should be the people who. Anonymously provide
content this person. Knows them personally they will get fired if. They,
ARE exposed yeah. I get it i don't think that

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everyone who puts video in. Should be identified those who
did the core requests major contributors, did get identified. They
weren't docs docks is, providing an address, not a, name
and frankly a.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Lot of us.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
Are out there if you are a public or a
semi public individual involved in, something like this do not
grumble when your name.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Is out there you could do like me and get.
A security system it is. What, it, IS maybe YEAH
i wish i could. Charge my tolls, this person says
if you want to be, a real journalist you have.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
To use experts, use EXPERTS say use i think with,
the best person use what. The, experts say yeah you
actually act to. Cite legitimate sources you can't, just site
rumor which is What do. Better denver, does and again it's,
a fun website but it is not. A journalistic website
it is simply individuals showing video of. People behaving badly

(01:29:37):
this Person Says the denver post is an advocacy Paper for.
The democrats period.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Is it a?

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Left leaning paper, many say so Just As the denver
get is a, right leaning paper Just As The new
york times is left Leaning And The wall street journal.
IS right leaning i personally think it's a good idea
to read one left leaning and one right leaning.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
Paper every DAY that way i get the full perspec
or at least try to get. The full perspective i'm
not going to guarantee that anyone entity has it right because.

Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
Here's the thing even if you're doing your absolute best
to keep your opinion, out of it to simply. Report
the facts what you, choose to report how you choose,
to report it where, it shows up is it going
to be on page one, or page twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
Who you're.

Speaker 5 (01:30:24):
Going to quote all of those, things are influenced influenced,
by internal. Biases institutional, biases even so even though nothing can,
be perfectly objective real journalists absolutely have to hold themselves
to a standard of ethics that advocacy social media.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
Accounts do not they have, to be transparent they have to.

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
Cite their sources they have to jet double. Check their
facts they can't put rumor has it or this? Might
be true they can only put. The Facts, in AND
yeah when I Listen To, colorado PUBLIC radio which i
Happen To Love, COLORADO public radio i keep in mind
that they. Are left leaning how, they report it, who
they quote what language they use is going to.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
BE left leaning i can still derive.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Value from that as my old mic partner, used to say,
eat the meat you throw.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Away the bones AND that's how.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
I SEE it if I listen TO koa or I
Listen To, COLORADO public radio I Read the denver Gazette Or.
THE denver post i, TAKE the meat i throw. Away
the bones Same Goes For. DO better denver i can.
WATCH the videos i.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
Can, be like yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:33):
That's just gross that person's bathing in the middle, of
the median that. PERSON'S using drugs i hope that. PERSON
gets arrested i hope that, these videos encourage as the
website or as the social media, account says too.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
To do a little, more.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
Tough, love compassionate, choices including institutionalization jailing peopleeople who are
doing things, that, are illegal publicly getting people. Off the
street who, are you know in a state of undress
or a state of drug oblivion or state of craziness

(01:32:14):
OR a dangerous. I get THAT and again i Think
That Do Benver do better, denver has value but it
is not held to the same standards as true institutions.
Of journalism are and there's nothing wrong with a reporter

(01:32:35):
from one of those institutions doing an article about a social.
Media advocacy organization, and you know and SOMETIMES it helps
i in order to kind of FIGURE out how i.
Think about things all often sort of take, the shoe
off put.

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
The shoe on the other foot.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
As it WERE let's say i really. LIKED this Administration
I think mike johnson's. A nice person.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
I would Like to.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
SAY republican mayor i don't think There's been a republican mayor,
for seventy years but There was.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
A republican MAYOR let's say i really. Liked this MAYOR
let's say i really liked everything.

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
This mayor did let's say they were, doing the, hard
the tough love COMPASSIONATE policies that i think are. Somewhat
more effective they were getting people. In institutionalized care they
were arresting people who, were being vagrants who were, doing
urban camping who were doing drugs.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
On the street they cleared those camps out in a.

Speaker 5 (01:33:32):
More timely fashion they know they, helped people out but
when people weren't getting sober and, not getting, work you
know they no longer got to have free lodging on.
The taxpayer's dime let's say they WERE doing. Everything, i
wanted okay no public.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Policy is perfect they are always going to be costs
associated with.

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
Whatever we do there are always going to be people
who slipped. Through the cracks let's say.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
A do better denver.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
Comes into being under A conservative or republican mayor and
starts to show things that are happening, in the city,
devoid of context, sometimes with misinformation sometimes with rumor that
were critical of A mayor that I liked what, i feel,
differently if NOT why would i apply the same standards

(01:34:26):
to THAT situation as i am applying. To this situation
and the, answer is yes. For consistency's sake if an
advocacy organization.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Wants to, produce A video whether i like the powers that,
be or.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
Not that's fine raw, video Is valuable but i'm going
to take it with a grain of salt because an
advocacy organization is not held to the same standards that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
Real journalists.

Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
Are they're not they don't have to, be trans parent
they don't have to, cite their sources they don't have.
To provide contexts they don't even have to. Check their
facts don't have to do. Any of it, this person
says rumor Has it somewhat the mayor's office Reached Out
to shelley bradbury to find out who's behind Do. Better
at denver having, SPOKEN to her i can say.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
That that, is completely.

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
False completely false it was actually a member, of the public,
somebody like me, someone like, you, who said hey check
out the site might. Be worth investigating given that they
have one hundred and forty four thousand followers on social
media and they seem to be having some influence, on the.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
City we should.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
Check this out if we're a left leaning social, MEDIA
advocacy organization i would.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
Want it checked. OUT as well i think it's.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
Worth checking out one hundred and forty four thousand followers.
IS pretty SUBSTANTIAL i think i only have. LIKE two
Thousand i know mandy has, more than me but none
neither of us have one hundred forty. Four thousand followers so.

Speaker 6 (01:36:02):
It has.

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
A presence. In this city and so she.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
Checked it out she wrote an, article ABOUT it and
i think that, article IS valuable and I think DO
better at nver provides. Value as well i'm just saying
that you cannot have a website that has that is,
devoid of contexts that does, not site sources, that is
anonymous and that. Sometimes provides misinformation you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Call yourself a. Journalistic a website you can call yourself
advocacy because that's.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
What.

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
You are now if you want, to do better hold
yourself to. A, higher standard maybe but if you're not going,
to do better don't be shocked when somebody from the, mainstream,
media says hey we're going, to check out, check you
out and check out. What, you're doing secondly giving someone's name.
Is not doxing if you gave their address so that

(01:36:55):
somebody could, hunt, them down yes that's doxing when there's
a horrible liberals got The ADDRESSES of obviously i have
a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
Of liberal friends i'm not talking.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
About all liberals but there is an extreme faction of
both the right. And the left but part of that
extreme faction found out the addresses Of Right leaning supreme
court justices and went. To their houses that's getting those
addresses and. Then harassing. People that's. Docksing that's harassment simply

(01:37:29):
knowing who people are just. Really about ownership own what
you do the rest.

Speaker 7 (01:37:35):
OF us do i.

Speaker 5 (01:37:36):
GOT a byline i take harassment. ALL the time i
understand that most of the people who Harass me on
twitter actually have Not Read my. Denver post column they're
just looking at A headline and i don't know psychically
intuiting what they think, is in there and in a
little spidey sense is a little off because they're never
actually right about.

Speaker 4 (01:37:56):
What's in there if you want to read what's in,
it and. Comment that's fine you want to, disagree with me.

Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
That's fine, TOO but yeah i get disagreement letters to
the editor primarily, from the left.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
Thoughtful criticism from.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
People, on the right as well as ridiculous trollers from.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
The right, and the, left and.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Frankly Death threats and i've had more death threats from
THE right than i.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
Have, from the left.

Speaker 5 (01:38:26):
Which is interesting so before you, start, to, think oh
yeah the bad guys are, on, the left no there
are bad guys, on the right and there are bad guys.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
On the LEFT people who, i don't know sit, in, their,
basements tweeting, texting doing whatever trying to stop.

Speaker 5 (01:38:48):
Opinion makers from putting, forth their opinions silence them by
trying to scare, them into silence and hasn't, worked so
far but.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
It certainly could uh it. COULD uh, uh i mean
it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
Work SO far so i like to say to my,
haters out there you know what's so great is if
You go to starbucks and you Say You, hate christa
kaefer you'll get.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
Ten percent off that seven dollars. Cup of coffee just
kidding will. Get you anything get. A real.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
Hobby let's see uh this person says name in town,
leads to docks and it's too easy then to. LOOK up,
dresses i, THINK you know i think that's that's a that's.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
A good point.

Speaker 5 (01:39:29):
I long ago had all that stuff scrubbed off OFFLINE
just because i, get death threats and maybe those folks that,
DO that too i don't know why anybody, would dox them,
to be honest it just contributors, to, A WEBSITE right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
And i also think you gotta you. Gotta own it
you got to own.

Speaker 5 (01:39:49):
What You do, so perston says not, making a point
but it's Interesting At the Denver Post And do better
denver both have one hundred and twenty two, THOUSAND followers
subscribers i assume as Since, TALKING about twitter i know
That on Between, Twitter And Instagram do better denver has
one hundred and forty.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
Four thousand followers.

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
AND it's just i don't know my TAKE lately that
i don't think as many People are using twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:40:15):
As it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
Used to, BE and yeah i get a lot of,
hate right now which is. Kind of interesting DO you
think i should let Him.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
Know about starbucks, Just kidding anyway glad to have all
of you folks.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
Tuning in here sports guys are next as starting to
file in now with multiple beverages, for the show so
kind on it being.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
A great show i definitely Have appreciated.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
A rod behind the glass getting me.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
Through THE show and i know he's going to do
a great job tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
Climbing, up that mountain going up the, manitude in climb
BEING the badass i know. That he, is and yeah
he's going to have to tweet out when when it
gets gets to the top of the mountain what he thinks,
of THE view because i know we'd all appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
That very much.

Speaker 5 (01:41:05):
One final comment this person says Ironic that the post
story didn't fully identify someone quoted in the article to. Protect,
HER privacy actually i think if you're talking, about the
administrator the administrator refused to actually. Give HER identity and
i do think it's kind of rich that an organization
that photographs people without their, permission is asking is demanding

(01:41:32):
that they get permission to give to. Give, their names
ben you want to, Talk about irony you can take,
pictures of people usually at, their worst moment, without their
permission but you are Angry That the denver post put
forth a couple of names of top contributors To do
better denver just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
WE'RE talking irony i know what's right for me is not.
Right for you is that? What? You're, saying, okay anyway
again thanks for. Tune it in you can check me
out at. Subseac dot com I'm also On twitter At
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super cute.

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
Catahula pit mix She's Available At Carl's Canine Rescue, Canine's
Carl Sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
Carl's canine crew THAT'S k.

Speaker 5 (01:42:18):
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for a, dog think. ADOPT don't, BUY i mean i
know there's some good ethical, breeders out there but so
many wonderful dogs out there that need, to be adopted

(01:42:41):
a few more minutes before we hit the end, Of
the show i'll grab just a. Couple, more comments krista
do you think ice wearing masks hiding their IDs during
raids because they have faced violence?

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
And threat threats do they have a right to. HIDE
their identities i guess they. HAVE a right i don't think.
IT looks good i get that they're concerned. ABOUT their safety,
i think though.

Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
That it's it's a little creepy to have people in
masks now pop out.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
Of a van.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Throw somebody to the ground and. Haul them away it
just doesn't Seem like the american.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
WAY to me.

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
I prefer that law enforcement in the vast, majority of
situations maybe not in a SWAT scenario or i. Don't
know that i'm sure there are situations that are.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
So serious that people do need to go in kind of.
Full TACTICAL gear but i would prefer that people people.

Speaker 5 (01:43:44):
SHOW their, faces i mean. That's, just me again you're.
Free to disagree, this person says.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
Christ are you going to?

Speaker 5 (01:43:52):
Be, IN tomorrow No i believe jimmy will. Be back tomorrow,
and then finally, This person says i'm talking about the woman.

Speaker 4 (01:43:59):
WHO'S drug addict a drug addict daughter WAS in.

Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
The, DBD photo yeah i. THINK that's it i new
remember that part. Of, THE article yes i believe her
maiden name and not her full. Name was portrayed, and
you know maybe you think that that is a conflict
with The standard.

Speaker 4 (01:44:16):
And, I'M you know i think it's fair to. Bring
it up definitely fair to. Bring, it up.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
Okay now we're down to. Our last, minute Thanks again
a rod for. HELPING me out i hope you have
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Get somebody else. That's NOT easy so i appreciate that
you hung with me.

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