08-11-25 FULL SHOW - I'm BACK, And Jared Polis Hates Oil And Gas - The Mandy Connell Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Andy Connell.

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On Kama got Way.

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Speaker 6 (00:27):
Welcome Local, Welcome to a Monday edition of the show.
I'm your host, back in the saddle, although broadcasting from
Southern Command because I still can't drive.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Mandy Connell.

Speaker 6 (00:37):
Join once again by my actual producer, who I'm super
excited to see, even though, as you'll hear in a
moment on the blog, he did a big thing this
weekend and now he's paying the price that my friends
Anthony Rodriguez, you can call him a rod, so a rod.
Let's do the blog and then we'll come back and

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talk about your day and what you're up to or
not up to today. Right find the blog by going
to mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
That's mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Look for the headline that says eight eleven twenty five
blog I'm back and Jared Polis hates oil and gas.
Click on that and here are the headlines you will
find within anyone.

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Who office South American All with ships and clipments and
say that's going.

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To press flat.

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Today.

Speaker 6 (01:25):
I'm the blog. I'm glad I took last week off.
Police hates oil and gas and his intent on destroying
that part of our economy. A high energy costs or
feature not a bug. Federal judge confused about what parental
rights are. Trump wants to clean up DC. Two more
dead motorcyclists. The do Better Denver flap hit while I

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was gone The next expose YELP reviews. Why is Michael
Bennett running for governor? Here come the hippies? The coolest
guitar in history? Remember when watching football was cheap? A
rod did the incline? Student at you starts with discipline,
Speaking of fools fighting, Denver has done away with parking requirements. Scrolling, Oh, scrolling.

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Democrats embraced cheating to win. Can't let men and women's
sports cancel? Women's sports? Offals really are the worst ever?
Why are the gay games of problem?

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Canada?

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Can't kill people fast enough? Reminder boxing can be fatal?
Where bug spray if you're outside? Petty times ten?

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Why are the their.

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Sandtraps on golf courses? Those are the headlines on the
blog at mandy'sblog.

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Dot com tech toe a winner. All right, here we go,
you guys.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Thank you to all of you who are hitting the
Common Spirit Health text line to welcome me back.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I had a week.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Ago last Friday, I had a full hysterect man today.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
On the blog.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
I wish I'd watched this before my surgery, but I
did not watched it after. It's an animated version of
the surgery that they didn't on me. But it's an
anime because I gotta tell you guys. They wheel me
into the operating room and have you ever had surgery
eight run?

Speaker 7 (03:07):
No? Never?

Speaker 6 (03:07):
Okay, So you're awake when they roll you into the
operating room, right, because that's then they give you the
anesthesi and everything. So they roll me into the operating
room that Parker Adventist cannot say enough good things about
advent Health Parker Hospital.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Wow, that was amazing.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
But they wheel me in and there's my surgeon, and
then there is a machine to my left that looks
like Alfred Molina and Spider Man right with all the
arms like the robotic arms like this, yes, yeah, and so,
and my doctor says, oh, I'll be right over there,
and points like ten feet away to a little computer monitor.

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She said, I'm gonna be over there doing the surgery.
The robot does all the work, and I'm like, at
that moment, I'm like, what the deuce have I signed
up for?

Speaker 8 (03:51):
Here?

Speaker 7 (03:52):
Sounds like the birth of Darth Vader.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Hey, I gotta tell you amazing. So I found a
video that's an animated version of how they do it.
Sit was the little robot hands. It's freaking so cool.
What a great time to be alive. What a great
time to be alive. Anyway, So that was fantastic last week.
By like Tuesday, I was off the narcotic pain meds,

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the only thing that had me really not ready to work.
We're two things. Number one, holy cow, did I have
antthesia brain fog?

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Bad?

Speaker 7 (04:27):
Like really bad?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
So that would have been a disaster.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
And number two, if you watch the video on the blog,
you'll see the first thing they do in the surgery
is inject your abdomen with gas. They inject it with
CO two, so the little robot arms have room to go.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
In and do the work. Right. The gas.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Uh, They're like, oh, most people absorb the gas and
expel it like two days.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
No, not me. I'm an overachiever.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
I kept that stuff till Friday, and it caused so
you have like gas bubbles under your rib cage.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Right.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Oh, it's horrible, horrible. So I was I was kind
of underprepared for that. I didn't know that was gonna
be a problem. It was absolutely incredible though. It was
just like it was the coolest thing. So by Friday
I felt normal again. I mean, I can still tell
I had surgery. I'm not gonna be running any races
right now. I'm not going to be doing the Manitou
Incline anytime soon, because apparently the aftermath of the Manitou

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Incline is horrible, as evidenced by one mister Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Hey, ay Rod, stand up real quickly for me right now.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
No, hell no, hell to the hell to the hell no, because.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
My first question, immediately before you even asked me, was
going to be do you have any of those pain
meds left? I do?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
I have a whole bottle full.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I If let me put it like this, Mandy, if
you were to ask me, Hey, A Rod, would you
ever do the Incline again?

Speaker 7 (05:50):
Go ahead, Hey a Rod.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Would you ever do the Manitou Incline again.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
If I could only do the ascent, which was super fun,
super enjoyable, loved every minute of it.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
I actually wasn't that hard.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Day, I would say, yes, But the dissent in the
last forty eight hours, Dear God, probably some of the
worst pain I've had in my entire life. Can barely
get out of bed, can barely walk. I'll put it
to you like this. You ever watched King.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
Of the Hill.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I feel like I'm walking.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Like Hankill's father. I am struggling.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I've barely slept well the last forty eight hours because
I've probably woken up one hundred times in pretty darn
good pain from my quads in fuego. God bless but
I do it again because of how rewarding it was,
how fun it was to say that I could do
all twenty seven hundred and sixty eight steps. With some people,

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I mean, I think a lot of people can't. It's
it's a challenge. You better be prepared, you better have
your electrolytes right into rock and roll and even replenished.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
But man, oh man, it is no joke. Take that.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's really really good. I'm very proud of
you and Rod. I'm sorry you're suffering. This is why
you got to have access to a hot tub. Like
hot tub's a game changer, you know, for that kind
of stuff. I want to answer some questions about my surgery.

(07:25):
I got a lot of questions on the blog, and
if you were at all squeenish, I'm going to answer
some of these questions honestly. So and here's why I
guess I should. I should preface this. So, after I
announced that I was having hysterectomy, I was shocked, shocked
at how many women I know who reached out to

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me and said, oh, yeah, I had that done a
few years ago. And these some of these women are
good friends of mine, and they didn't share what they
went through, and I just thought to myself.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
This is stupid, This is dumb.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
We should all be able to talk about this stuff
and it should be okay. We should be able to
normalize having these conversations.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Now.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
I don't know if you guys follow me on Facebook,
but yesterday I shared a post of our good friend
Stephan Tubbs along of KOA Radio now with the DEA
as the public information officer. But Stephan announced he has
prostate cancer. And he did so, and he was very
open on his Facebook post. He's having his prostate fully removed.

(08:25):
He's got stage two cancer and hopefully we'll make a
full recovery. But he talked about it on his Facebook page.
It's like, let's normalize having these conversations.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
And here's why.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
I cannot tell you how much it meant to me
that some of you emailed me last week just to
check in. I cannot tell you how much it meant.
The Cowboy John from Wyoming dropped off a whole bag
of treats from BUCkies for my recovery.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I can't tell you.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
I felt the prayers, I felt the positive energy, I
felt the concern, and I promised you it helped.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
I promised you it helped.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
So there's a couple of things about this that I
want to answer. Yes, the surgery was the Da Vinci
robotic surgery. That's the surgery that I had. Coolest robot ever,
highly recommend. No, my anesthesiologist was not a robot. But
can I just say this about advent Health Parker's Hospital.
You guys, everybody that works there looks like they could

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be on Grey's anatomy, like, it's the most beautiful group
of medical professionals you've ever seen in your flip in life.
My anesthesiologist was gorgeous, and then his assistant walks in.
He's gorgeous, and I'm like, what do you guys do
at this hospital? Do you like only hire off of

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dating apps? I don't know, but it was absolutely fantastic.
Lots of you asking did they utilize your C section
scar for entry?

Speaker 4 (09:49):
No, they did not.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
I have five small incisions on my belly, four on
my belly and one in my belly button, and then
one at the top of my uh, interior vagina to
get graphic where they kind of hoovered everything out, So
that is actually the biggest incision, but it's all internal,
so I don't know about that one. The incline gave

(10:11):
this person runners poops? Did you have to runners poop
a rod? Any poop issues on the incline? People want
to know?

Speaker 7 (10:18):
Thankfully? No, thankfully no.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I took care of business before starting, and good plan
felt good throughout it.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, you want to be light, you know, you want
to be light on your feet. You don't want to
be weighed down by last nights Lasagna no.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Light, Mandy. We've talked a lot about chad GBT for
the last week.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I have used it immensely for meal plans, for sleep plans,
for prep plans, for electrolyte plans, yep. Part I would
think a good chunk of the reason why I enjoyed
it so much is because I did it right. You
have to prep, you have to pop, you have to train.
The last year my workout's been an incline.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
Well, I just I just want to point out your
mom just texted in, and I'm not being snarky. Your
mom actually texted in to say I had more pain
delivering a rod ah.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Bighead biggie.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah, yeah, there you go, there you go. Let me
see there was one more question on that. I think
that was it. But again, you can see the delivery,
you can see the surgery. I found a a an
animated version of it, and it's just it's actually really
really cool. It's a wonderful time to be like, ay Rod,
did you descend down the steps.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Or the trail?

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I went down a portion of the trail, but we
had a deadline, and so we went down a good
chunk of the steps, which I would not recommend doing it.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
I don't like going downstairs. It's really really hard on
your knees, especially when they're not even. Yeah, and that
the inclined steps are not even, they're not the code.
Don't tell anybody, they'll probably try and shut it down.
So there we go. We've now covered the incline. We've
a lot of you have had the robot surgery. Super
super cool.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
It is cool.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
Mandy on the incline three hundred and thirty times between
twenty and twenty ten training for the Ascent Mountain race
between age fifty and sixty.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
What, you're probably in very good shape. Let's see. Wait
a minute, let me do the math on that for
a second.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
So if you did that between two thousand and twenty
ten between age fifty and sixty, that means you are
a healthy eighty years No wait late, no, seventy five
years old. Now, I bet you're still in great health.
I'd love to know. Fascinating.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Mandy A. Rod.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Thank you so much for giving us a real, upclose,
personal snapshot of your lives today. I am was so
excited anticipating your show today that from JEFFC.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
So there you go. We do have a lot of
stuff to talk about today.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
And I really had a hard time this morning, Like
the blog could have been, it could have been twice
as long as it is right now, just getting caught up,
but as I'm prone to do when I missed a week,
because honestly, the first few days of last week, actually
I was fine on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, very rough because

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of the gas and just uncomfortable and didn't feel good
and awful.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
So I pretty much didn't do anything.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
I walked around my house a lot, just walked around
my house, but I didn't feel like doing anything. So
I downloaded a game on my phone that is let
me say, I'll tell you what it's called. It's called
Daily Number or something.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Hang on one second, Uh, let me do this, And
I downloaded it because I started to have I realized
that I was struggling mentally. Daily Number Match. It's a
dumb game. It's just a dumb game. It's not even difficult.
It's just a dumb game.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
But I don't do well with numbers.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
So on.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Wednesday, when I was still have a lot of brain fog,
I was like, I got to do something to sort
of get my brain working again. So I downloaded a
numbers game, which I don't I don't think I've ever done.
And I played a numbers game for the entire week.
And I'm not a game player on my phone. I'm
not one of those people who's gonna sit. I actually

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love to sit on airplanes when I'm flying and play
dumb games like Candy Crush and now I'll play this
dumb game. But I'm not a big game player normally.
But I was a little bit out of a loop.
So I want to make sure that I know that
I'm going to talk today about some of the stuff
that I missed last week that you guys want to
hear me talk about. One of them, of course, we're
going to get into the Do Better Denver flap. As

(14:43):
a matter of fact, Jill Osa is coming on the.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Show tomorrow to talk about that because it all broke
when I was gone and when I read the article
in the Denver Post.

Speaker 9 (14:54):
Ugh.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Ew. We'll talk about that a bit later, but.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
I want to know, is there any anything else that
I missed that you guys think I should be paying
attention to. And you can text me on the Common
Spirit Health text line at five six six nine. Oh,
go ahead, and do that five six six nine. Oh, Mandy,
what was your favorite thing from BUCkies?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Hmmm?

Speaker 4 (15:16):
They have these like the the.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
They have cheese puffs, which are one of my downfalls.
Like I love a Cheetos puff.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Love it.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Could eat them all day long, even though I've seen
how they're made and it's kind of gross. They fire
really fine corn meal through this high pressure tube and
it makes Cheeto puffs. There were some good Cheeto puffs.
And then they have these caramel puff things. I don't
know what they're even made of, and they they're pretty amazing.
They're pretty I honestly don't remember what else I ate.

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The caramel roll.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I had a little bit of that.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
Let's just say I'm back soda strict today because I
got a little fluffy over the last few weeks because
of just being miserable, absolutely miserab. Anyway, so today at
one o'clock, we're gonna have Jen Schuman on. She's the
editor of the Rocky Mountain Voice. They have done a
really interesting series that it feels really significant, And it

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feels significant because it's about a couple of things. Number One,
oil and gas production in Colorado, oil and gas production
in Colorado under the Jared Polis administration is being strangled
off as quickly as he can figure out how to
strangle it off. I feel like this is an opportunity
for the Republican candidate for governor to commit to adopting

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the all of the above strategy that most people support, because.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
What we're doing here in Colorado, and really what.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
We're doing in the United States overall, is we are
economicallyneecapping ourselves. We are kneecapping Colorado's economy, we are kneecapping
the United States economy when it comes to oil and
gas production because people like Jared Polis have decided that
oil and gas or the devil, and must be stopped. Okay,

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and the Rocky Mount Voice did three different articles, and
I'd love for you to read all three of them.
One of them about how the governor let the owner
of a very small oil and gas company compared to
the other oil and gas companies that operate in Colorado
let him know to his face, I'm coming after you.
I'm going to put you out of business. And how

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he has gone about recommending, cajoling, demanding, empowering local communities
to make it impossible to drill for oil and gas
in the UH in Colorado. I mean, and this is
this is not a nothing thing, you guys. This is
a big deal because as we rely more on unreliable

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renewable sources, as the governor wants to our variability to power,
the state gets called into question. And it's not just
about me being able to run my air conditioning when
it's one hundred degrees, although I will tell you if
you're not already looking at a whole house generator, you're probably.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Gonna want to start.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Because Excel over this last hot streak the last week
sent out notices saying, hey, don't run your air conditioning
or we're going to be forced to be rolling brownouts.
That's what's coming with all renewable energy. It just is
just is so fascinating stories in the Rocky Mountain Voice.
We're going to talk to Jen Schuman at one o'clock

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about all of that. But one of the things you
need to understand about the attack on oil and gas
is that it is a feature, not a bug, that
electricity will get more expensive. And if I could ever
talk to the governor about this, if I could ever
have the opportunity to talk to him and say, look
right now, in Germany, it is so expensive to have

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power in the summer when you need it or in
the winter, that young people are leaving because they can't
afford their power bills. Is that what you want for Colorado?
Because that's where we're headed. And the most idiotic part
of this whole thing, the stupidest aspect of the green
energy movement right now at this moment in the United States,

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is that last year China's construction of coal fired power
plants hit a ten year high India. India has thirty
eight gigawatts of new coal fired power plants right now.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
They're not at all worried about global warming.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
And as a matter of fact, China is one of
the funders of the environmental movement in the United States
of America. Why would they do that? Such a mystery,
Such a mystery, I wonder if it's so we can't
afford to power our factories and we have to offshore

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even more industrial stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Because that's the other part.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
The other part of the whole thing is that if
you want to drive industry out of the United States
and make us rely on and on our enemies for everything,
then go right ahead, keep coming after energy. But what
we are seeing in the United States right now is
this incredible rush towards artificial intelligence and towards the kind
of energy sucking artificial artificial intelligence server space that require

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a ton of energy. And remember, the governor loves tech,
right the governor loves to try and woo tech to
come to this area. We'll get into this more right
after this, after a quick let me try that again.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
A rod, We'll be right back. The reality is is.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
That China has been funding the environmental movement here in
the United States for a long time, and they've been very,
very very successful, extremely successful, and now we have climate
change embedded as a concept and the notion that CO
two is the problem so deeply embedded it is now
taught in all of our schools throughout. I mean, kids

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are just steeped in this NonStop, all day long, one
hundred percent of the time. But the reality is is
that China is doing this for a competitive global advantage,
and it's really kind of genius. I mean, I will
admit I am somewhat proud of China's strategy on this

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particular thing, because China looked at the people of the
United States of America and said, what can.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
We do to really mess with them?

Speaker 6 (21:34):
I know, we'll turn everyone in the United States of America,
whose entire economic foundation is based on fossil fuels, as
it is everywhere every place that there has been human flourishing,
we have had energy.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Based on fossil fuels.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Okay, so we're not the first to do it, We're
just the first to really make it work for us.
And the reality is is that China knows in order
to remain the world power that they currently are, they
have to have the energy to power AI. They have
to have the energy to power all of the industry
in China, they have to have the power to essentially

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keep their technological edge.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Now at the.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Same time, they're building more coal fired power plants than
they have in forever.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Listen to this a quote. Resurgence in construction of new
coal fired power plants in China is undermining the country's
clean energy progress.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
The country began building ninety four point five gigawatts of
new coal power capacity and resumed three point three gigawatts
of suspended projects in twenty twenty four. That's the highest
level of construction in ten years. Guess who's funding it
in China. Oh, if you guess the coal mining industry,

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you are correct. The Accelerated build Out says, this story,
fueled by investment from the coal mining see, raises critical
concerns about China's ability to transition away from the fossil
fuel Analysts expect China's huge clean energy capacity additions to
slowly squeeze coal's share of electricity generation as China works

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towards its dual carbon goals of peaking carbon emissions by
twenty thirty and reaching carbon neutrality by twenty sixty. I
don't believe they intend to do either of those things.
I think they're just gonna wait until we creator our
own economy and permanently cripple our ability to build anything

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in the United States, and then they're gonna be like, oh,
Nan or Niner, it doesn't really happen.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's not co two. We were just kidding, just kidding.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
I mean, you guys have to admit it is like
it's like a James Bond level sort of, you know,
thinking of things now I want to share with you.
And this came out in twenty twenty three. This is
just one example. If you google China funding the environmental movement.
All kinds of stuff pops up, but this one from

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Fox News, of course, because none of the other news
outlets would cover it. A climate focused nonprofit with significant
operations in Beijing has wired millions of dollars to fund
climate initiatives and environmental groups in the US.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
While the Energy.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Foundation's financial filings indicate that the group is technically headquartered
in San Francisco, a Fox News digital review determined that
the majority of its operations are conducted in China, with
a staff that most extensive ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

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It's recently file tax form show the group, which refers
to itself as Energy Foundation China, contributed three point eight
million in initiatives in the US like phasing out coal
and electrifying the transportation sector.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Now, why would they.

Speaker 6 (25:04):
Be donating money here to phase out coal when they
are building more coal forward power power plants than they
have in a couple of decades at the same time.
Does anybody else think that's a little weird? I mean,
it's really a mystery, isn't it. No one would ever

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be able to figure out why they would be doing
both of those things at the same time. Amazing amazing.
Now that's not all the Biden administration. Of course, hook
Line and Sinker went for this stuff. They are adopting

(25:47):
the policies that are being promoted by China that will
literally just increase our dependence on Guess where you, guys.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
I know it's really hard. Try your best. Wait, I'll
give you a second.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Now, where would we be morbhole if you said China?
You're absolutely right, And let me tell you why not?
Just because like in Germany when they went to all
renewable energy, just having a factory in Germany has become
impossible because the cost of electricity is so high that
it is now impossible to build things in Germany. So

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once we can't build things here in the United States,
where are we.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Going to get all of our stuff?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Hmm?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I have no idea. But it's more than that.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
We are completely dependent on rare earth minerals from China.
And here's the kicker, you guys. Rare earth minerals not
really rare at all. Do you know why they're called
rare earth minerals because getting them out of the ground
is an environmental disaster. But when you're a totalitarian communist regime, environmental.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Disasters are not that big a deal. You know.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
You're like, ah, look away, Oh, complain about it. We'll
run you a with a tank. It's fine, don't worry
about it. So as we move to oil and gas,
away from oil and gas to things like solar and
batteries and wind power, all of that stuff requires rare
earth minerals, which China has a lock on because the
environmental is in this country would never ever let us

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go for those minerals that we have in abundance in
the United States of America.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
It's genius. It's really, really genius.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Do not think that the Chinese, even though they're communists,
are remotely stupid and on this they one one hundred
percent have our number, and we just keep panning them
more of our numbers. It's absolutely insane, completely insane, Mandy Crater,

(27:52):
our economy. You mean, like Trump Vance stopping a steel
plant in Dvance, its hometown from installing more efficient and
powerful blast furnaces.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
I have no idea what you're talking about, but if
they're still making steel, your point doesn't really fly there,
does it. We'll be right back.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
The Texter followed up a steel plan Advance's hometown wanted
to install new blast firnesses that would have been more efficient,
creating several hundred jobs booth steel output. Trump's tariffs killed
the entire project. It's been fully canceled. Okay, that's not
the same as Trump advance saying you can't do it.
So yeah, I mean, if we really wanted to sit

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here and assign political blame for lost jobs in industry,
there is no doubt in my mind that the Democratic
Party is so far ahead on that scale than anyone else,
and mostly just from the green industry. You guys, they
have decimated entire communities that were coal producing communities.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
They're just gone.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
There's no place for people to work, no jobs to
be had. So if you want to point political fingers,
we can, but I think that your team would lose,
and lose dramatically on that issue.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Anyway. This text or one of my favorites.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Fifty years ago, a senior coworker of mine said, the
do gooders will destroy the world.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
You are so right, correct, correct, Mandy.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
Communists are a moral They only permit religion because it
weakens the resistance to.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
The godless no rules, no morals.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
Guess who wins. Communists aren't smarter, They just have no conscience.
I would disagree with you. I think that this shows
an incredibly high level of understanding who the American people are.
And by the way, that's not a criticism on my
part of who we are. We are people who care.

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We are people who care about other people's well being.
We care about the planet, we care about the world.
We don't want to feel like we're responsible for doing
damage to the planet that we all love. And they
know that about us. They watch the un United States
of America. The citizens of the United States of America
donate more money to charity than any other single nation

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in the world. You know why, because we care and
we have disposable income, and we haven't offloaded our moral
responsibilities to the government like they have everywhere else, like
when you travel in Europe. We were on a walking
tour of I want to say Broadislava in Slovakia, but
I'm not positive could have been. And there was a

(30:30):
woman sitting by one of the buildings we were walking by,
and she had her hands out in her head. She
was begging, and she was an Arab woman. She was
wearing a hey job and she was sitting there begging
and our tour guide in front of her said, do
not give her money, because the government takes care of
people here.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Do not give her money.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
And I thought it was very interesting, and I understand
we say the same thing, don't give them money, because
it then, you know, in America, it usually goes to
an addiction situation. But it was very very interesting to
hear her forcefully say no, the government has taken care
of that. There's no sense of personal responsibility for your
fellow man. And don't get me wrong, I'm sure they
feel some sense of responsibility to their fellow man. This

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is just a kind of a big example that I had.
But the reality is is that China knows that about us.
China understands. Why do you think TikTok is so different
in the United States than it is in China. When
you're on the Chinese version of TikTok, you're gonna get like,
how to solve this fun math problem? Or hey, kids,

(31:33):
get outside and do this exercise, or hey, respect your
parents' kids, they're super important.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
And here what do we have here?

Speaker 6 (31:43):
It's like an entire app of just garbage and claptrap
and scantily clad women in the most base appeals.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
To human nature. China is not stupid. I mean, no, no, no,
oh no.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
Mandy, what's with the initial snarky voice to the dude
who was talking about the steel plant when you didn't
even know what he was talking about.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Oh but I know his number.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
You guys have to understand, we see your phone number
on the text line, and I recognize certain numbers, and
certain numbers almost never contribute anything useful to the show.
So the disdain was not necessarily for what was being said,
but for the phone number that it was attached to.
I hope this helps, Mandy. China says, we don't need

(32:32):
to sabotage your energy sector. You'll do it for us
with the best of intentions. Exactly right, Mandy. Is it
possible that the US understands the importance of fossil fuels
and rare earth.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Minerals and is holding off on the drilling and mining.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
Of these important resources locally and allowing other countries to
deplete their resources first, and then the US will dominate
the drilling and mining industries going forward because they hold
all or most of the resources. Could the US be
playing the long long game. I like your confidence, Texter,
but the reality is, we don't play the long game

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like other cultures that have been around for thousands of
years play the long game. And the reality is is
that unless you believe in peak oil, which I don't,
there is so much energy in the ground all over
the world that that is literally the worst strategy ever.
So no, I don't think we're playing the long long game.
I just think that we are getting played. That's where

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we are right now when it comes to the climate
industry hustle. Anyway, when we get back, we're gonna dig
a little bit more into this, and I promise we're
going to talk about something else other than energy going forward.
But The Rocky Mountain Voice editor Jen Shuman has been
working on a series of articles which I linked today
on the blog that you can find out more about
just how much Jared Polus not only hates soil and

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gas but also has not just in power an agency
to aggressively and excessively go after one energy company. But
that is the entire point. We're gonna talk to Jen
about it next. Keep it right here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
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Speaker 6 (34:40):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm your host back in the saddle, Mandy Connell and
joined today by Anthony Rodriguez, who I get too. Yes,
two old days this week with a rod so I'm
pretty excited about that, and joining me now. She is
the editor of the Rocky Mountain Voice. And if you're
not looking at the Rocky Mountain Voice every day, you
are absolutely missing out not some of the most interesting

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stories that are happening in the Colorado area around the country.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
But also I love.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
The commentary on Rocky Mountain Voice because you don't hear
from the same kind of groupthink stale opinions. Now, don't
get me wrong, I don't agree with all of them.
As a matter of fact, they're probably i'd say half
and half. Sometimes I can pick apart some of this
stuff in some of the columns, but it's interesting to
hear a different perspective and a different sort of viewpoint.

(35:31):
So that was my way of sucking up to Jen Shuman,
who is joining me now. She's the editor of the
Rocky Mountain Voice. But I mean that, Jen, I really
have come to look forward to reading the columns at
the Rocky Mountain Voice more than anything, because they do come.
I mean they're mostly right center right, with a few

(35:53):
crazy outliers here and there, but it's very interesting and
I feel like we're almost hearing what like the common
man says.

Speaker 9 (36:00):
So, you know, thank you so much for saying that, Mandy,
And it's so great to be here with you today
and with the audience that you have.

Speaker 10 (36:09):
And did you hear that, Colorado?

Speaker 9 (36:11):
Because most of our commentaries that come from grassroots voices,
and so if you have something to say, we would
love to get your voice out And if you want
to send a commentary to us, you can send that
to us at info at Rockymountain Voice dot com.

Speaker 10 (36:28):
Just a couple of quick you know, just a quick
heads up one like what are we looking for?

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Well, you have a voice to share what's going on
in your local community, what's going at the state level,
at the national level.

Speaker 10 (36:40):
We cover all three of those categories.

Speaker 9 (36:42):
We take those submissions from everyone, and it's I agree.

Speaker 10 (36:46):
With you, Mandy.

Speaker 9 (36:47):
I love looking at my inbox to see who is
sending in something from somewhere in Colorado who wants to
use their voice to help people be aware of what's
going on.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Yeah, I highly recommend it Rocky Mountains. If for nothing else,
just go and do that. But I would strongly recommend
you hop over there today and you can do so
on a link on my blog, because there are three
news articles that Jen.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Did you write these?

Speaker 8 (37:12):
Jen? Yes?

Speaker 6 (37:13):
Maage, Okay, so Jen wrote these. I don't want to
give you too much credit if you didn't deserve it,
but three different articles that are in my mind. And
I said this to Jen off the air, like rationally,
I'm like, how am I even surprised? How is this
remotely surprising? And yet I found myself genuinely shocked at

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some of the stuff that is in these articles when
it comes to the level of involvement between Jared Polis
and the agencies that oversee oil and gas and how
he is using them, in my view, to punish industries
that he disagrees with, and that is that's beyond the
pale right. It doesn't matter if it's a Republican governor

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doing it or a democratic governor doing it. When you're
you using an agency to specifically target an industry you
personally don't like. I have a real problem with that.
Now let's talk about what's in the articles. Let's start
with article one. What is article one about?

Speaker 9 (38:12):
Article one is how two municipalities, the towns of d'acano
and Frederick, they filed a complaint with ECMC and that
they evoked Rule to eleven, which is a rule that
is usually for abandoned and plugged wells that they're maybe
causing an issue and they need to be plugged, or

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they're already plugged they're abandoned, or also for wells that
people want to claim have an adverse effect on the
public health, the environment, so on. And so they followed
this complaint, the two towns, and they followed it in
September of twenty twenty four and it has been I mean,

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it's been a year of basically hearings and litigation, but
it's on part with litigation and they just had their ruling.
The ECMC ruled on this matter on June twenty sixth
this year, and the cities asked for I think it
was forty five wells to be plugged. The ECMC ordered

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three of them to be plugged, but they left the
door open to say, well, you know, KPK is such
a poor operator. They are derelict in their duty. They
don't they're not compliant. And these are supposed to be
neutral commissioners who are supposed to hear all sides, and
they do try to say that as well. I will

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say that, but they also say the KPK's is poor operator.
And if you look at the history of KPK with ECMC,
they have felt that way for a very long time
because they have gone after KPK in ways that we
cannot even fit into this section.

Speaker 10 (39:53):
To this segment.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
So let me stop right there. We got two sets
of initials that I want to clarify. The ECMC is
one of the boards that oversees oil and gas permitting,
processing all of that stuff in Colorado. They are the
ones that are going out and inspecting well sites and
doing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Is that correct? I just want to make sure I
have that right.

Speaker 10 (40:12):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 9 (40:13):
But one thing I would clarify is that ECMC it
used to be the Colorado Oil and Gas Commission and
CoGGC is what it used to be known as. It
got rebranded in July, I believe of twenty twenty three
to where it broadened its base to be all energy
and also to have a policy agenda framework where they're

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basically regulating and issuing orders based off of climate change agenda.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
So something that people have to understand. And you lay
this out in the article. And this is why I
really want people to go read these because there's three
of them and there's so much information in each of them.
But I want to come back to KPK for just
a moment. Okay, this is an oil and gas company
that was founded by a man, certainly not the biggest
player in Colorado by any stretch of the imagination. From

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the data that you provided in one of the other articles,
they appear, at least on paper, to have a better
safety record, a more responsive safety record when it comes
to things like leaks. They fix things faster, they don't
miss reports. They on paper, with all of the data
provided by the state, they seem to be a pretty

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good oil and gas company.

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Why or how?

Speaker 6 (41:33):
And we'll get into the conversation where Jared Polis said
to the owner of this company, why do you think
they're targeted after doing all of this, Do you have
any kind of idea of why this company specifically is
being targeted.

Speaker 9 (41:48):
In my opinion, and the only reason you preface that
by saying that they have they are compliant, they clean
up quickly all the things that they do and by
comparison to some other operators, is because they had to
go and get an independent analysis and they've done I
think a couple of these to actually show, hey, here

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we are, we're not any worse than any other operator.
In fact, let's get into the details if you want
to compare us, here's what we're doing and how we're
doing a good job. Because ECMC didn't see them that way. ECMC,
the ruling body, was biased. And so why possibly, just
to come back to your last question, would they possibly
target this one independent, family owned oil a gas company

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they started in nineteen eighty four. My personal opinion is
that they picked this company as.

Speaker 10 (42:48):
A guinea pig, as a.

Speaker 9 (42:49):
Guinea pig to throw the book at them, and if
they can use all of their rules, fueled by their
personal agenda, to put an oil and gas company out
of business, then they know that they have their game
plan that they can then do that with other companies.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
I agree wholeheartedly.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
My entire takeaway from this thing was they went after
KPK specifically because they.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Were a smaller operator.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
They don't have endless money like Chevron or one of
the And I'm not knocking Chevron by the way, I'm
just saying, when you go after Chevron, they've got weight
you out money. Right, they can just wait out this
administration and then they'll be very invested in the next
selection cycle.

Speaker 9 (43:29):
Right.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
This is what I don't understand about oil and gas.
I don't understand why oil and gas is not absolutely
playing in every single race in the United in the
United States, but especially in Colorado. And by playing, I
mean supporting candidates that will actually, you know, work with
oil and gas instead of trying to put it out
of business.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
I think you're totally right.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
They're just going to hone the game plan on the
small company to take it to the big companies going forward.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
I mean, it's just it's shameful and it's so blatant.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Jen tell the story about when Governor Jered Poulis met
the owner of the founder of KPK.

Speaker 10 (44:06):
Sure So, Kevin Kaufman.

Speaker 9 (44:09):
He heard that Jared Poulish that he wanted to I
believe it was Senate Bill one eighty one he flew
to d C. It was when Polis Actually it wasn't
Senate Bill one eighty one, but he flew to d
C when Jared Poulis was a congressman because he had
a particular stance on olan gas and he tried to

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talk to him about what, you know, energy, oil and
gas can be done in a way that is that
is not harrible, harmful to the environment. We've been innovative,
We've made great steps. And Jared Polus allegedly told Kevin
Kaufman oil and gas is not good for the state
of Colorado. Coloradon's don't want it. We're going we're going

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to get rid of oil and gas out of Colorado,
and we're going to start with you. So Kevin decided
to invite a group of oil gasducers to a restaurant
in Denver shortly thereafter, and this is in a federal
amended complaint that was filed on August first.

Speaker 10 (45:08):
And he makes these claims in this complaint and he says.

Speaker 9 (45:12):
That he invited other oil and gas producers and Jared
Polis and just to see if Jared Poulis would repeat that,
and he did.

Speaker 10 (45:20):
In the company of these oil and gas producers and.

Speaker 9 (45:22):
Said the same exact thing. We're going to get rid
of oil and gas. It's bad for Colorado. Colorado's don't
want it. And he pointed at Kevin and said, starting
with you.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Somebody just asked this on the text line, and it
might be an interesting follow up for you.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Jen did k p Kaufman? Did they frack the.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
Well right behind Jared's vacation home? And I don't know
if you knew about this, Jed, do you know about
that big kerfuffle? And I do think there's an element
of revenge here because when Jared Poulis was a congressman,
he bought a vacation home because living in builders too stressful,
and they, you know, they frecked it well to his place,

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and he got super angry about it and made big
hay about it.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
And I swear this is part of it.

Speaker 10 (46:07):
I remember the story.

Speaker 9 (46:08):
Somebody recently sent this to me that is totally who
lives in Douglas County and was trying to tell me
polus is bad for the state of Colorado. And I said, boy,
do I know that? Yes, And it's an old story.
I don't remember the year, but what I recall also
is that he was upset about how it messed up
his year, his view of his beautiful land. That's this

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you know, oil rig there and how dare them?

Speaker 6 (46:36):
You know, I want to tell everybody to go and
read these stories because it really is something to see
that we now have a governor who, in my view,
based on what you told me, because you guys also
unearthed some interesting comments for regulatory members of the Regulatory
Commission where they were pretty open about you know, doing
basically doing the bidding of Governor Polis, like he was directed,

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seeing how things were going to go.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Tell me a little bit about that.

Speaker 9 (47:04):
Yes, So I came across this ECMC hearing meeting video
where the chair of ECMC, Jeff Robbins, is spending quite
a bit of time talking about how he just received
a letter from Jared Poulis and I believe the date is.

Speaker 10 (47:20):
July twenty twenty three, where.

Speaker 9 (47:23):
He says, Jared Poulis, you know, we've gotten to this
certain point where we are.

Speaker 10 (47:28):
You know, we've got our.

Speaker 9 (47:29):
Mission with ECMC, and we've gotten to this point where
we're putting rules in place.

Speaker 10 (47:34):
We've passed legislation. The state legislature has helped us.

Speaker 9 (47:37):
And now we have to raise the bar towards the
mission of phasing out or transitioning away from the state's
dependence on oil and gas.

Speaker 10 (47:49):
And he went into I think it was three different.

Speaker 9 (47:54):
Objectives of what needs to be done next and how
there's going to be rules coming into place, and he
even named a time frame of a certain point in
the year, and I believe it was in the fall
of twenty twenty four that we need to have these
rules in place. And so it's very policy driven, it's
very agenda driven.

Speaker 10 (48:13):
And when you look.

Speaker 9 (48:14):
At what this company is faced all along the way,
I mean, the backstory on this is this has been
going on with KPK for quite a while. I gotten
the opportunity to visit their field office and spoken to
Kevin Kaufman and Jeffrey Kaufman many times, and Jeffrey is
his son, and Jeffrey at one point he showed me

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his phone and he said, look, how many notices of
inspection failures we've gotten right here, And he just went
through and just scrolled through his phone and he's starting
to try to count them up and how many days,
how many he's gotten and what you'll see in some
of these court documents, is that what used to be

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maybe three many notices a violation or inspection notices a
month has gone up to about fifty a month, sometimes
as many as seventeen a day.

Speaker 10 (49:09):
And they even have former.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
Staff who have filed affidavits to talk about how they
were told don't come back to the office unless you've
filed a notice a violation on this company.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
That to me, should be the lead story in every newspaper,
It should be the lead story everywhere. But unfortunately, our
local news media doesn't seem to show much interest in
stories of this magnitude. And I'm hoping that your work
at the Rocky Mountain Voice will force them to start
asking questions as well, because if there's a logical explanation,

(49:44):
I'd love to hear it, and I'm sure you guys
would too. Did you reach out to the players on
the state side and what kind of response did you get?

Speaker 9 (49:53):
We did reach out to the Governor's office for a comment,
and as of yet, we have not.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
Received over shocking. I mean, I for one am this
is my shocked face, Jen shocked.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
Shocked.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Now, so tell me about the lawsuit. Now, there is
a lawsuit in federal court by KPK.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
What is that?

Speaker 9 (50:13):
So the law suord is the lawsuit lays out some allegations.

Speaker 10 (50:18):
Number one that Jared Polis.

Speaker 9 (50:20):
Stated this to Kevin Coffman twice, once one on one
and second in the company of other ol producers.

Speaker 10 (50:28):
So this company has been targeted. But there's also.

Speaker 9 (50:32):
Claims that there are constitutional violations that have happened, and
one of them is the Fifth Amendment, the takings clause,
and it basically the legal standard is the government cannot
take away private property for public use without just compensation.
There's an Eighth Amendment argument also excessive fines. Maybe that
has something to deal with the one hundred and thirty

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three million financial assurance that the ECMC find on KPK
and basically also at the same time took away their
license to operate and shut down their operation. There's also
an argument of Fourteenth Amendment, the equal Protection clause that
basically you can't have selective enforcement. You can't just sue
one little private operator in the hopes that you take

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them down and you put everybody else in notice. There's
also a Fourteenth Amendment substance to due process claim and
then Fourteenth Amendment and the fourteenth Amendment one is before
depriving someone, there needs to be a meaningful opportunity to
be heard. I don't know if they have that realistically,

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when you have ECMC commissioners telling them this is a
recalcatrant and uncompliant operator.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
Yeah. Jen Schuman is my guest. She is the editor
of the Rocky Mountain Voice, and there's great articles in
this today. You know the thing that gets me the
most and for people, And I have some people on
the text line saying things like shut them all down.
Oh well, it's I have to screw these companies, all
of them destroying land, poisoning water, and buying all the politicians.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
But the reality is, sir or madam, that all.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
Of the stuff that's in your store, all of your
Amazon orders, all of that stuff, it doesn't get to
your house because of fairy dust and unicorn farts. Okay,
So it's not just about you being willing to pay
ten dollars a gallon walk.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
It's about everything in our society running on oil and gas.
You nimrod no offense. But come on, you can't be
that daft.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
You cannot be that devoid of understanding of how the
world works, and we haven't even started, Jen to talk
about the just precipitous crash of oil and gas revenues.

Speaker 6 (52:47):
We now have a one point two billion dollars shortfall,
and oil and gas revenues have fallen off a cliff
for the state.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
That's a whole other issue that.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
We haven't even gotten into text or or I mean,
where are we going to come up with another three
one hundred million dollars to make up that hole this year?
And that's the reality of what we're facing in Colorado,
and every bit of it will be self inflicted. And
that's what's so absolutely shameful. Jenna, let you have the
last word.

Speaker 10 (53:13):
Well, and I wanted to say two things.

Speaker 9 (53:15):
Well, one of them is we were talking before I
came on air about how this really impacts local communities
or this state in terms of revenue loss because of
this anti oil and gas agenda. So I just did
a quick query, and this is just one company an estimate.

Speaker 10 (53:31):
For twenty twenty four revenue.

Speaker 9 (53:34):
How it impacts the local community said that local property
tax admal orem taxes amounts to almost one hundred and
fifty to one hundred and eighty million to counties and
that goes to school district special districts where that ol
company operates. And so when you obliterate an oil company
from operating in Colorado, that impacts every single Colorado. And

(53:58):
the second point I wanted to make was that it
sounds like I was picking on Chevron, and it really
it wasn't picking on Chevron. When I brought up Chevron
in the article, it was because I just happened to
come across listening to this long hearing where in the
afternoon they ruled against KPK, they showed down three of
their wells. They talked about how they were just a
poor operator. In the morning, they had a hearing with Chevron.

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And this is the whole reason I brought it up.
They had a hearing with Chevron because there was an
emergent emergency incident. There was an emergency incident, and I
got to hear the commissioner's tones. They were so gracious.

Speaker 10 (54:37):
They were so collaborative with Chevron.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
They were just falling over themselves saying, I just.

Speaker 10 (54:45):
Know you're handling this. We're here to help you.

Speaker 9 (54:49):
There was no punitive tone at all, and it.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Was just like it was shocking opposite.

Speaker 9 (54:58):
It was completely opposite to the demeanor that they have
with four K KPK.

Speaker 6 (55:03):
Jen Shuman, thank you for the articles. They're fantastic. Everybody
should go to Rocky Mountain Voice and read them. I
put a link on my blog to make it easy
for people to get there. Jen, thanks so much for
your time today.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
Thank you so much. You guys, take care all right.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
That is Jen Shuman. We'll be right back.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
Few text messages that came over on the text line
from people.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Saying, you know, good zue amount of existence.

Speaker 6 (55:25):
And I responded, how much do you want to pay
for gas? And that's a valid how much are you
willing to pay for a gallon of gas for your
environmental dreams? But you can't just think to yourself, Hey,
I make good money and I hardly drive.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
I would just, you know, do that, because.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
It's not just that when we shut down oil and
gas in Colorado, we further squeeze the supply in the
United States of America and around the world. When you're
not producing gas and oil in Colorado, you are there
for allowing a couple of things to happen. Number One,
production in other places stays the same, and gas prices
go up and they reach a point where all of

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a sudden, people are making other decisions about what to
do with their money, so they're not going out to dinner,
which impacts small mom and pop restaurants and larger chains
and communities. We've seen kind of what happened with that
during COVID when demand plummeted, We're gonna have a lot
of businesses go out of business. We still haven't fully
recovered from that. Then, when you're talking about oil and gas,
it's going to cost a fortune to get things to

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the stores that are still open because every single thing
that is in every single store is delivered in a truck. Now,
before you talk about the fact that there are electric
trucks available, yes there are, and their batteries are prohibitively expensive,
and all of those costs will be just passed.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
On to the consumer in the form of more.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Higher prices that we're already paying because oil and gas
are more expensive unless everybody else decides to increase production.
And then if you look around the world at who
else is, you know, create and producing oil and gas.
Let's be real, there are not a lot of great
actors in that situation. Russia, Venezuela Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
These are the people you want.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
To enrich because here's the news flash, texture who's willing
to pay ten dollars a gallon. Everything in the world
economy still runs on fossil fuels, whether you like it
or not.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
So you're gonna cripple the entire economy just to shut
down oil and gas production in Colorado, while at the
same time, India and China are not even building natural
gas because you're now choking off the supply of natural
gas too.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
They're building wait for it, coal fired power plants. But
you're telling me that you want to shut down oil
and gas because you care about the environment. All you're
doing is empowering and enabling China, who really does not
do well with environmental regulations.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
One of the things I realized when we went to
South Korea. South Korea is shrowded in pollution on their
western coast, like every city is socked in on our
worst swag days here that are not wildfire related are
not anything compared to the level of pollution that we

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saw on the western coast of the island of Korea.
Do you know what's across the South China Sea and
the word there south China Sea should give you an
indication of what's on the other side.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
It's China, and they've located all.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Of this polluting industry right on the coastline, so all
of that gets sucked out to sea and lands over
the country of Korea. So why in the world, texter,
who's willing to pay ten dollars a gallon?

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Would you want to give them more power?

Speaker 6 (58:58):
Because the more we we go to renewable energy, the
more rare earth minerals we need from China. And you
know why they have so many, because they don't pay
attention to the environmental restrictions that we do, which prevent
us from getting at our own rare earth minerals. But Texter,
who would pay ten dollars for a gallon of gas?

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I know, I know that you probably think that you
are a liberal because you're a good person, and good
people want to save the earth. And you've been told
over and over and over again that oil and gas
or evil and oil and gas are the root of
all of our problems, and if only we could do
something about that, we could solve the world.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Leave it in the ground, am I right?

Speaker 6 (59:41):
But the problem is is you're operating on bad information.
You're operating on incomplete information, because deciding to shut down
oil and gas in Colorado does not operate in a vacuum.
It has all of these spider web of effects, the
butterfly effect. If you will, that reverberate in such ways

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that your ten dollars a gallon gas is going to
be the least of your worries because you won't be
able to afford anything. And if you are a business owner,
no one else will be able to afford to buy
your product unless it has something to do with something
that they're forced by the government to buy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
I mean, you cannot think about this in such simplistic terms.
You just can't.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
I mean, I guess I could if I were a
liberal and I just wanted to feel good about myself
by saying I cared about the environment and stopping right
at the very beginning of hey, wish.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
You shut it down in Colorado.

Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
That will help without any further you know, critical thinking.
But that's not how I am. I mean, it's hey,
it works for you. It's fine, it's fine. It's it's
perfectly fine.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
I mean, And if I need.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
To bust out the list of like five hundred things
that are made in the United States using petroleum.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
I can.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
If you haven't seen that when liberal texture would pay
ten dollars for a gallon of gas, you probably need
to check that out so you can go ahead and
eliminate all of them from everything in your entire lives.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
So I'll come see you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
When you're living in a hovel carved into the side
of a mountain using I don't know what for energy
because it's all carbon based. Mandy, I want to pay
fifty dollars delivery fee for my fifty dollars order of food.
That's what ten dollars gas gets you. Correct, correct, So

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those are my thoughts for the Texter who was very
smugly feeling so much better than the rest of us
roobs out there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I am so much better. I can afford it. I
say I would pay ten dollars for gas. No, you
really wouldn't. You wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
Oh, and by the way, for those of you who
think to yourself, well, that's okay, I'm gonna go ahead
and power my electric car from my house, and therefore
I don't have to worry about gas SECAs, except because.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
You've kept all the oil and gas in the ground
and now it's all renewable energy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
Here in Colorado, those many many times when the windmills
aren't turning, we're gonna have to buy really expensive gas
from somewhere else and import it, so everybody gets screwed.
In your scenario, the world flourishes in my scenario where
people use the oil and gas. But in your scenario,

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the world becomes a miserable, miserable place.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
But you know what, it will still allow you to
feel good about yourself. Yeah, you still got that going
for you. And isn't that really enough anyway? Mandy, I'm
glad you're back. Glad everything went well. What about how
much fuel will cost?

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
Will increase the cost of Amazon deliveries?

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Do liberals use Amazon? Of course they do. Of course
they do, But if.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
It makes them feel better about themselves, they'll tell you
they don't. We'll be right back after this. Donald Trump
is going to clean up Washington, DC. And I say
about damn time, because the nation's capital is scary as
hell at night, and there are homeless people everywhere, and
that is such a shame. Because every American should go

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to Washington, d C. And every American should go to
the museums and see the monuments and understand our history,
and every American should feel like they can do so
in relative safety.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
And right now it's like.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Every other big city, all of which happened to be
run by Democrats, and it's been out of control. And
I think Trump is just like I've had enough now.
I have not listened to his press conference that he
had earlier today. Obviously I was on the air when
he gave it, but I am very okay with the

(01:03:57):
President saying, you are doing a lot lousy job.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
And it's not just if it was just.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
The city of DC and all of the monuments and
everything else or somewhere else, then that would be fine,
right Like I love Baltimore, Maryland, I really do. Great city,
phenomenal food, great ballpark in the Camden Yards. They have
now beautiful, beautiful ballpark, maybe my second favorite, second to

(01:04:25):
Coors Field, and I'm not even kidding. It's probably tied
for second with Tropicana Field, which I know is crazy,
but you have to live in Florida and understand why
the Troup is so amazing. Anyway, I digress, But the
city of DC does such a bad job managing all
of the stuff around all of those monuments that I
would love to see them be forced to clean it up,

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because all of those museums and all of those things
that are so important and marks such incredibly incredibly important
stuff for the nation that everyone's should experience it. They're
they're amidst all of this other crap that is going on.
So we shall have to see what exactly that looks like.

(01:05:11):
I'll have more on that tomorrow. I also want to
do this story really really quickly, and it's not really
a story so much as two stories together going along
with something we were talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
A couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
We have two news stories in the past three days
from motorcyclists that have been killed on the roadways, one
on Hamden, one on twenty five. Now I don't know
what happened in either of these stories in terms of,
you know, we're the motorcyclist's being I don't know, but
I feel like every time you turn on the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
News over the past six weeks.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
You are hearing the stories of motorcyclists being killed, and
I'm wondering. I mean, we've talked about it on the show,
and I know you guys feel super super super annoyed
about the motorcyclist lane splitting and all that stuff. I

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know we've already talked about it, but is this an
excessive number or am I just paying more attention? That
was really the question I had, because I feel like
I don't remember seeing this many stories. Ay, Rod, do
you remember seeing this many stories of motorcyclists like this summer?
Seems like it's been very deadly on the roadways this year.

Speaker 7 (01:06:22):
It feels like, Yeah, it feels like there's been quite
a bit more.

Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
I just and inevitably it's a young man that's you
know killed, or a young man and his passenger, some
young woman who decided to get on the back of
his you know, cross rocket with no helmet. I'm just like,
every time I see it, what a dumb way to die.
Just a dumb, dumb way to die.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
And I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
I have friends who ride motorcycles and they love it
and it's like therapy for them, and I would never
take that away.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
But I'm not doing it. That's like, that's I'm glad
it works for you. I'm glad. I'm glad you. I'm
glad you like that, Mandy. The only part of Baltimore.

Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
Visiting is the Inner Harbor and Camden Field two blocks away,
you're running for your life.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
The last time I was in Baltimore, you guys, was.

Speaker 6 (01:07:06):
Probably probably two thousand maybe, and I loved it. I
have no idea what it's like after that. So, but
there are certain cities that have a vibe to them.
Boston is one of those cities. Boston has a vibe
to it that's just.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Really really cool.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
Philadelphia, for all of its issues, also has a very.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Philly vibe to it, Like when you're in Philadelphia, you're like, yeah,
I'm in Philly. Maybe I'm in Philly, and.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
Baltimore kind of had that vibe, but they were not
in sort of the bad way that they're in now.
So anyway, federalizing police forces super great idea. Your hypocrisy
is astounding, except I didn't say that, and I actually
said that I wasn't aware of what Trump was doing.
What I would like is for somebody to put a

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grown up in charge in Baltimore and excuse me, DC
and fix the problem. So if it is federalizing in
the police force, we'll talk about that after I have
more details. Mandy, your discussion on oil and gas and
how Polis is trying to shut it down as the
best news segment you've had in a while.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Very informative. I'm a native Colorado and born and raised,
and I want Colorado energy to be oil and gas.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
I am not foolish like Polis who was born in
Colorado but raised in California and grew up in California
and is infected with the idiocy of California solar and wind.
Mandy a surge and I used to know called motorcyclist
organ donors. Yeah, I would say, if you are a motorcyclist,
please be an organ donor as well.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Just you know, I'm not saying I want you to die.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
I don't at all, Mandy, lane splitting is filtering to
these wanna be power rangers. Organ donations should be mandatory.
I witness two fatalities while on business in California. It's suicide,
like I said, because even if you're a real good motorcyclists,
it's still motorcyclists versus.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Car or truck and those odds.

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
Nope, nope, Mandy, I had a bike or try and
knock my mirror off. Lane splitting because my F three
fifty is wide some of us carry guns stupid and
I rode for years, so I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
Okay with bikes or used to be. Yeah, yeah, Mandy.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
Of all the laws in Colorado, I don't understand why
there are no helmet laws for motorcycles. Now this might
shock you, Texter, but I am anti helmet laws from motorcyclists,
just like I don't want to ban motorcycles.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
I really don't.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
I don't want to ban them, but I do think
that if you're going to ride a motorcycle, you better
have insurance that can pay for long term care if
you're gonna ride it without a helmet and become a
vegetable that somebody else to take care of.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Just saying we'll be right back.

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To a very very busy show today. I'm back. I'm
Mandy Connell. That guy's Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
And in case you missed the beginning of the show,
let me give a quick recap today on the blog
at mandy'sblog dot com. You can find an animated video of.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
The surgery that I had if you want to know
more about it. It's really cool though. They do it
with the robot and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
It was neat.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
It was very very cool. I am.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
I just responded to a nice email from Liz checking
in with me, and I said, I am not one
hundred percent, but I am far closer to one hundred
percent than I anticipate at this point, probably better than
Anthony's doing today after his climb up the Manitu incline
on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Hey, Ron, I want to.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
Have you do a little like maybe a little standalone
blog of the tips that you that you use to
climb the Manitu incline, because I think that would be
very helpful. So we could do an a Rod's manitud
Incline tips. Because you went deep. You did like deep
research to do that thing.

Speaker 7 (01:11:26):
Very extensive.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Chad GPT was very much my friend in the past
ten days or so. And without each and every part
of it, trekking poles, oxygen, the right nutrition one thousand
percent with electrolytes infused every twenty to thirty minutes, I
would not have made it up to two thy, seven
hundred and sixty eight steps because man, oh man, you

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need all of.

Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
It, And yes, I would like to. I asked you earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
I would expect the delivery from Chuck for the remainder
of your pain medication, please.

Speaker 7 (01:11:57):
Because these last forty eight hours have been but pain.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
What we need is for somebody to allow you to
come over and do a dip in their hot tub
kind of just you know, but anybody wants to have
a hot tub party with a rod, now's your chance,
so you can give them a QUI station. Okay, guys,
I have a bunch of stuff on the blog today,
but we've got to talk about something that broke while
I was gone.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
So the Do.

Speaker 6 (01:12:19):
Better Denver flap, as I'm going to call it, was
the flap regarding an anonymous social media account I have.
I have been following Do Better Denver. I feel like
I was an early adopter because someone sent it to
me and I was like, oh, hey, yeah, I'm going
to follow this social media account. And if you've been
living under a rock and you don't know what it is,

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it is a social media account that just documents the
kind of decay that we're seeing in Denver, and it
was started by a person that was not profiled in
the Denver Post out of frustration because if you listen
to what the Mayor's office said as it's some variation

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of everything.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Is awesome except it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
And Do Better Denver is kind of the way to
hold them accountable because it's hard to deny when you
see that social media account the things are not great
in Denver, and the social media account is all of
the video you see there, but maybe there's a tiny
fraction that was actually recorded by the person who uploads it.

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But all of that video is crowdsourced. It's sent in
by people who are just as sick of seeing it
every single day as Do Better Denver is. So the
Denver Post did a story, and we knew what was coming,
and we talked about it before it came out. So
I'm recovering from my surgery and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
The story pops up and I see it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
First of all, I started laughing a couple of times
in this story because the entire tone of the story
was there, what.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
That real journal is like us?

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
And I could not stop laughing because it was just
so apparent. The two things went on in this story
in the Denver Post number one, the Denver Post actually
outed the Johnston administration and their feelings for Do Better
Denver and and I don't have the story in front
of me, I'm not gonna open it right now. But

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the story actually said do Better Denver used to respond
to or rather DPD Denver Police Department used to respond
to Do Better Denver's queries on X, but they've stopped
doing so at the guidance of the Mayor's office.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
What exactly does that mean?

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
I mean, why in the world would the mayor want
the Denver Police Department to not respond to a social
media account with thousands of followers when they're asking.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
About crime in the city.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Why would you not want that? I mean, don't you
want transparency? Of course I know the answer, and I'm
being super sarcastic here.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
I just want to clear that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:10):
Up for that angry text who's about to send something
nine to the common sphere and el text line at
five sixty six nine. Oh, so that's the first part
they out of the Johnston administration is being actively involved
in the Do Better Denver situation in any way, shape
or form. I mean, in my mind, if you're gonna

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be in politics, and I don't care if you're gonna
be on the school board, or you're gonna be in
the mayor's office, or you're gonna be president of the
United States. I don't think you should be on social media.
I really don't. And I understand people who love Trump
are like, oh my god, we're so gratefully he's on
social media. But the reality is, why are you giving
any kind of time and attention to a social media

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account when you have run a city budget into the
ground to the tune of.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Two hundred and fifty million dollars in the hole.

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
You're going to be laying off people in just a
few days, seven days, they're going to be laying people
off city of Denver, and you're so worried about a
social media account that you feel the need in some way,
shape or form.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
Maybe he ran unto the police chief at a party
and the police Chief's like, what the heck would that
do better Denver?

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Am I right?

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
And the Mayor's like, hey man, just stop. You don't
have to respond to those guys. Or was it in
a directive unprompted by the Denver police Department, or did
the Mayor's office just get word to the police.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Chief that we're not going to do this anymore. I'd
like to know more about that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
The rumor on on the street is word on the
street is this that the Johnston administration actually combed through
the corps request trying to figure out who at Denver
better at Denver, do Better Denver was But they only
found three people that had just contributed, none of whom
were actually do Better Denver, And then they gave that

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information to the Denver Post, which in and of itself
is the saddest admission. That the Denver Post is just
like our little Colorado prafta. I mean, whatever the government
tells us where, you just gonna run with it. They're
so nice over there, and they lease a bunch of
our building for government offices. But that's not a problem

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at all, I'm sure no way anyway, So that all
broke while I was gone. Now, Jill Ossa, one of
the people who was outed by the Denver Post, has
posted a response because, like every news story, one of
the reasons I don't like being interviewed for other publications,

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and I have been in the past as a matter
of fact, I'm broadcasting from my house today as I
recover from surgery, and I have three magazine and newspaper
covers hanging on my walls, because once they.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Do that, then they frame it and they give it
to you and it's a big deal.

Speaker 7 (01:18:02):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
None of them have been remotely accurate as to what
transpired during the time I spent with the authors of
these various interviews.

Speaker 6 (01:18:10):
Some of them were close, but not remotely where I
would even say seventy five percent accurate. So the last
time someone asked me if they could do an interview,
and it's been a long, long long time, I just
politely said, great, can I record it as well? Can
I just record the audio two? And they said no.

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Then I went, okay, well never mind. Then never mind anyway,
So there you go. The whole thing is just stupid.
It was a dumb thing for them to try and do,
and they did not do well. When we get back,
I have another expose that I want to talk about,

(01:18:51):
and it's an expose thankfully someone did real journalists did
it to dig in to those none journalist at YELP.
We'll do that next. Hey, Mandy thought about hormone replacement,
but doctor was very against it, saying it ups cancer aggressively.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
What have you heard?

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
Okay, there's two different things in this question. One is,
if you have hormone sensitive breast cancer, then you cannot
do hormone replacement therapy period hands.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Just that's it. But there was a study like forty years.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
Ago that showed hormone replacement could be connected to an
increase in breast cancer. But the reality is is that
more recent long term studies have shown that you can
safely do hormone replacement therapy as long as you don't
have hormone sensitive cancer. So there's a bigger conversation there.
I would recommend you use the Google and just google

(01:19:47):
most recent studies on breast cancer and hormone replacement and
go from there. But your doctor, I'm not going to
say your doctor's wrong. Let me just say that I
don't have enough information. But there's a lot of newer information,
not new studies, but the end of long term study
is that are pointing things in a much different direction.
In my view, doctors that I have watched and listen

(01:20:10):
to say that the positive effects of hormone replacement far
outweigh the minuscule risks of something like that, if you
do not have hormone sensitive cancer.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
I want to say that again and again.

Speaker 6 (01:20:24):
Mandy, my six year old grandson did the incline last year.
He said it was a bit more challenging than I expected.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
I think a rod was prepared. Did it just fine?
Just fine? Mandy, forty year old male here hrt is
life changing. Amen to that, my friend.

Speaker 6 (01:20:41):
Now let's get to this very important piece of information.
The Denver Post new new expos a Yelp reviewers revealed
to be unlicensed dining critics operating without journalism degrees.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
This from the Rocky Mountain Oyster.

Speaker 6 (01:20:59):
It is shocking expose that has rocked the gluten free avocado.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
Toast community to its core. The Denver Post.

Speaker 6 (01:21:05):
Revealed Friday that hundreds of Yelp reviewers in the Denver
metro area are actually unlicensed dining critics, some with no
formal training in journalism, zero editor oversight, and in several
cases limited understanding of bechamel sauce. Using open records requests,

(01:21:27):
anonymous tip lines, and a Freedom of Information Act request
to heelp's customer service chatbot, the Post uncovered that many
of these rogue reviewers operate under pseudonyms like Taco King
eighty seven and why Mom for twenty, dispensing star ratings
and snarky comments with total disregard for legacy media gatekeeping.

(01:21:51):
These individuals are writing about restaurants without fact checkers, without
food expense accounts, and without the faintest idea.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
How to properly use who's the word mouthfield gasp Post
Dining editor Cluise Fontaine, who holds a master's degree in
gastronomic storytelling from Columbia and it goes on from there.

Speaker 6 (01:22:13):
There you go, my friends, top not reporting from the
Rocky Mountain Oyster.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
Here come the hippies. What am I talking about? We're
gonna talk about that next.

Speaker 6 (01:22:23):
I may, and I mean may have a reporter from
News Nation on to talk about what's going on in DC,
But I don't know yet. We'll find that out on
the other side of the break. Keep it right here
on KAWA. I do want to say I love our
new Thank a Teacher program here at iHeartRadio. It's powered
by Donor's Choice and what it is it allows you

(01:22:44):
to nominate an outstanding public school teacher who you say
has gone above and beyond for their students and that
person may win five thousand dollars to stock their classroom with.
And in Denver, Alissa Harkstark was nominated. She's a speech
therapist Corey Elementary. She works with students to communicate effectively
in and out of the classroom, which I completely get behind.

(01:23:06):
She also teaches teachers and parents successful communication skills with
autistic students, and stalking her classroom would make her therapy
fun and successful.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
You can nominate your.

Speaker 6 (01:23:18):
Favorite teacher right now at iHeartRadio dot com slash teachers.
So that's a super cool thing powered by donor's choice,
and you can go ahead and do that and make
that a thing you do all right now. One of
the things that I have on the blog today is
about the rainbow gathering, and I every time I talk

(01:23:43):
about this, I get an email from a hippie who's
mad at me, who's.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
Super mad at me because.

Speaker 6 (01:23:50):
I don't love the rainbow gathering family blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
And trust me, I know what the rainbow family gathering is. Now.
Have I ever been to a rainbow family gathering?

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
I have not. Have I been adjacent to a rainbow
family gathering? Yes I have?

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
And being adjacent one time was enough. Now what am
I talking about? So there's this big family of hippies,
and genuinely, and I know people who have attended this
event for years and they are the biggest hippies you
have ever met in your entire life as far as
they're concerned. It is nineteen sixty nine in the summer
of love every day of the week, and the Rainbow

(01:24:31):
Family Gatherings are big events where all of these people
kind of descend on an area in one fell swoop
and this year it happens to be on a remote
part of in San Miguel County. Now, my disdain for
the Rainbow Family Gatherings is personal but also well founded.

(01:24:54):
And I don't have anything against hippies. Some of my
favorite people in the entire world are hippies. And I
mean that they all smell like patuli. They wear those
anklets with the bells on them, so you always know
they're coming like cats. I don't know, but man, I
have seen the mess that has been left behind at
some of these gatherings.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
I have seen fires that were set at these gatherings.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
Now they were set in places that don't have the
wildfire danger that we have here. I'm not a fan,
and all they are is a chance for a bunch
of hippies to get together, smoke fifty tons of pot,
trip on acid and mushrooms, possibly do other stuff I
don't know, and hang out in somebody else's property. And

(01:25:39):
I just I don't know. I have too much respect
for private property rights. And I've seen just the massive
piles of garbage that these people have left behind. And
I'm not gonna say it's like that at every single gathering.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
They're all different.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
I've been told by the attendees when I'm like, why
do you go every single year? They're all They're all
like a living organism, and every living organism is a
unique and special individual and if you miss one, you
miss that life that only exists during that one Rainbow
family gathering. Anyway, So I'm not a fan, but they're

(01:26:18):
in San Miguel County.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
So if you smell like.

Speaker 6 (01:26:21):
A massive wave of petrolia oil and body odor mixed together,
you're gonna know what it is. Hippies can send your
hate mail to Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com. Anyway, Mandy,
speaking of rainbows and budget deficits. Mayor Johnston is hosting
the Gay Games. Hashtag unbelievable. Okay, I add this on

(01:26:41):
the blog, and what I'm about to say is going
to surprise you. So, first of all, Tommy Lame or
le Ley what's her last name? The chick from Laren
Tommy larn from Fox News rosed skyrocketed to fame because
she was twenty three and super hot and said the

(01:27:03):
right things in a conservative way, and so conservators were.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Like, yes, she's hot, put her on television.

Speaker 6 (01:27:10):
She's still young, and sometimes she says things and I'm like, Tommy, Tommy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Come on.

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
And her commentary on the Gay Games is one of
those times. What are the Gay Games? You might be
asking yourself. The Gay Games are a series of athletic competitions.
They do all kinds of stuff. I mean, it's just
like the Olympics, only it's put on and mostly inhabited
by gays. I say mostly inhabited, because apparently anyone can

(01:27:40):
sign up to do the Gay Games.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
You don't have to be gay.

Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
You don't even have to pretend to be gay, like
the guys in Bosom Buddies did fantastic program that Died
Too soon, It really did it deserved better than that.
But Tommy Laren made all of these comments like it's
just another prime event and blah blah blah. Okay, so
the Gay Games would bring ten thousand folks to Denver

(01:28:06):
over the course of a week, ten days whatever to come,
and they're gonna do all these competitions, and you know
they're going to compete in ballroom dancing, god forbid. And
it's just a big, another big convention, right, But the
reality is this. I used to work at a long
orang steakhouse in Orlando, Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
And why am I telling you this?

Speaker 6 (01:28:26):
Orlando, Florida, specifically Kassimi, which is right outside Orlando. They
host a gay rodeo every year. The National Gay Rodeo
is every year in Orlando. And let me tell you
what it was like being a server when the gay
rodeo was in town. First of all, you got to
hang out with like the hottest gay cowboys ever. And

(01:28:50):
yeah there's gay cowboys.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
We all know. Brook Back Mountain was not just a movie,
it's a thing.

Speaker 6 (01:28:56):
And they tipped so well that I made more money
the one week of the gay Rodeo that I probably
made in the other three weeks of the month. But
I think this is a bigger part of something that
I as a person who leans right but is also
libertarian and has long supported things like gay marriage and

(01:29:19):
other sort of you know, treat them the same way
attitude for gay folks. There is a shift on the
right happening that I do not like. As much as
I will, you know, fight to the death to prevent
children from being physically altered before they're old enough to
understand what that is as part of the transagenda. I'll

(01:29:41):
fight that all day long. But I don't like what's
happening now, and that is we're like, well, what's with
the gay games? Why do we even have the gay games?
And there's there's a level of mockery at gay people
that I find I'm not happy about. It's unnecessary, and
we've you know, there are so many gay people that

(01:30:03):
would absolutely be Republicans, except Republicans can't stop just picking
the scab, right. It's like trying to create a problem
where there isn't When it's my understanding that here in
Colorado that someone is going to try and put a
ballot measure together to redefine marriage as between a man

(01:30:23):
and a woman again, I hope it was a joke.
I mean, I hope because this is once again another
attempt to make the party smaller instead of making the
party bigger. Now, if you want to make a funny
joke about the Gay Games, you know, just because it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:30:43):
I mean, I feel like there's a ballroom dancing joke
in there, but I just can't. I can't get there
because they're actually ballroom dancing. I think the Gay Games
would be a whole lot of fun. It would be
very festive athletic people. If you want to go and compete,
you can knock yourself out.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Feel free.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
So, hey, Chuck, everything you're doing right now, I can hear,
just to let you know, just to let you Chuck
is going to play out the day in a minute,
and he's messing with head.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:31:12):
Yeah, no, you didn't know. You had no idea. I
didn't realize what time it was. Man, this show has
gone fast, really really fast.

Speaker 11 (01:31:21):
As long as every one of the Gay Games has
a gay time, which means happy, sounds good to me.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
You know my question.

Speaker 6 (01:31:29):
I have a story on the blog today about Minnesota Fencing,
not a company that builds fences, the organization that oversees
like anduard like fencing, you know, with the foil in everything,
And they have decided that because Minnesota's civil rights laws
prevent them from being able to tell trans people that

(01:31:50):
they cannot compete against women, is now in conflict with
the federal government's edict that men cannot compete in women's sports,
that they are just doing away, not with fencing or
not with sporting, They're just doing away with the women
only category. So just to be clear, just to be

(01:32:14):
really crystal clear, I want everybody to recognize what just
happened with one fell swoop. In order to accommodate the
feelings of a teeny tiny fraction of the athletes that
compete in the women's category, we are now going to
eliminate women. So now a man who doesn't even identify

(01:32:37):
as transgender can participate in the open category and a
woman can never win again, which is why we got
title nine in the first place.

Speaker 11 (01:32:45):
I was gonna say, take care of that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
I don't know. Why can't I hear you now? Hear yeah?
I can hear you now. I can't turn you up.
I can't do anything. You can't hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Mayrod.

Speaker 6 (01:32:57):
Well, yes, that's gonna have to do, because I can't
do anything without turning my computer off. Broadcasting from Southern
Command does have its limitations. Now, I also have a
video on the blog today that I was not going
to put on the blog because it is full of
a foul mouthed rant by a woman who is really

(01:33:21):
tired of anyone who voted for Donald Trump and still
wants to go get Mexican food. Because in this tirade
that she goes on, by the way, it is not
safe for work. It is loaded with potty language. I'm
warning you now. You have been warned. It says if
you're offended by language, she really loses it at the end,
so be prepared to be offended. But you should see it,

(01:33:44):
and you know why because it is the most clear
demonstration lately.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
There's been a lot over the years, but lately of the.

Speaker 6 (01:33:53):
Absolute hatred that women like this have for people that
they disagree with. And she goes off on people who
voted for Trump. She goes off on Trump in a
very unflattering way by referencing his genitalia, and it's just
the level of hatred that just drips off of her face.

(01:34:16):
I think you need to pay attention to And the
fun part about it, the super fun part about it,
is that she also assumes that any immigrant who is
owning a business, owning a restaurant is here illegally. That's
her assumption. Oh no, I don't assume that. I assume
that people immigrated here. I want to assume. It would

(01:34:38):
be nice if that was true. But she is what's
known as an awful, an affluent white female.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
Liberal an awful.

Speaker 6 (01:34:47):
That's the acronym now, and it's the most perfect acronym
in the history of acronyms.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
It really is.

Speaker 6 (01:34:52):
I mean, it really does encapsulate it. Whenever I try
to be I'm trying to be more what's the word,
I'm trying to be less judgmental. I'm trying to understand
what this woman has to say, but she says it
in such a vile way that I'm like, you know what,
I think you can work hard to be less judgmental
and you know, walk on a more faithful path to God,

(01:35:17):
not to you know, man, but at the same time,
be aware that people like this exist, because I think
it's important to recognize that people like this exist.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
It's sad where we are.

Speaker 6 (01:35:30):
It's sad that this woman is so consumed by hatred
that she went on her podcast and really let fly.
But the reality is is that there are a lot
of people in this country who are making decisions about
how valid your viewpoints are that don't have a lot
going on in their own life tomorrow. As a matter
of fact, on the blog, I forgot to put it

(01:35:51):
on the blog today. I saw it right before the
show started.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
I have a video of a woman.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
I will find out who this woman is by tomorrow,
but she so clearly explains the reason that the left
wing in this country is now on the side of
a murderist, savage organization like AMAS, and why they will
not let it go because they can't let it go

(01:36:18):
because it's not about AMAS, it's not about the Palestinians.
It's about how they feel about themselves. If you heard
me talking earlier in the show about the guy who
said he'd happily pay ten dollars a gallon of gas
if they just got their oil and gas companies out
of Colorado, same thing. People, their viewpoints, their political viewpoints,
make up so much of how they view themselves that

(01:36:41):
they can't change or admit they were wrong, because then
they have to think to themselves, well, maybe I'm not
as good a person as I thought I was. It's
a really psychologically interesting sort of turn of events if.

Speaker 11 (01:36:52):
You think about it. The people that have a lot
of have a lot of disdain for other people. It's
the same the half of themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
You don't have respect for yourself, you can't respect someone else.
Oh you got it. I can't do anything about it.
A rod. Can you hear him at all?

Speaker 8 (01:37:10):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
He can barely hear you. Well, then I don't know
how we're gonna play out the day. But that's okay.
It's just I can't turn it up without turning the computer.

Speaker 11 (01:37:18):
I can share your micro Oh that's.

Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
Fine, he can still hear us. All right, we got
an a rod.

Speaker 11 (01:37:21):
This is Cuddly of the day.

Speaker 9 (01:37:23):
Yeah, that work.

Speaker 6 (01:37:27):
And now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio of its kind.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
The world of the day. All right, what is our
dad joke of the day?

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
Please, Anthony, before I die, I'm going to eat a
whole bag of unpopped popcorn. That should make the creamation
a little more interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Okay, that's funny. That's a good one.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
That's Nancy approved, right there, like that one. What's today's
word of the day, please?

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Word of the day is an adjective hide bound, hide bound?

Speaker 6 (01:38:02):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
Does that mean determined?

Speaker 11 (01:38:04):
Yeah? That's kind of what I think.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
No, hide bound, hide bound? I don't know what does
it mean?

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Someone or something described as hide bound is inflexible and
unwilling to accept new or different ideas.

Speaker 11 (01:38:18):
All right, now, I thought of that same thing, but
I thought, you know, determined mean they're stuck in there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
So yeah, okay, all right, Anthony.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
Today's trivia question, Where in the United States can you
find movie manner? A combination of a drive in movie
theater and a motel in which guests can watch movies
on an outdoor screen through their motel room windows. I
feel like you're somewhere on Route sixty six, you know
what I mean. I'm gonna say, Albuquerque, New Mexico, Reno.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
Oh, I'm going there now, are we ready? Montevista, Colorado?

Speaker 7 (01:38:58):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (01:38:58):
The film audio is delivered a tell guests via speakers
attached to the FM radios. All right, so here's Chuck Mandy.
All right, yeah, because you gotta make sure he hears
you too, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:39:10):
Right, up in there.

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
I'll just push you out.

Speaker 8 (01:39:11):
Of the way.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
We're equidistant away right now.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Just to just to be clear, Chuck, when you try
you did have the mic down right?

Speaker 11 (01:39:18):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
Yes, yes, yes, no, you never know, no he did.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
The category is toys, okay, toys. This soft modeling compound was.

Speaker 7 (01:39:28):
A rich Chuck.

Speaker 11 (01:39:30):
What is Pleado correct?

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Dang it?

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Stacey, Chelsea and Skipper?

Speaker 7 (01:39:35):
Are this dolls? Sisters?

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
What is Barbie?

Speaker 11 (01:39:39):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
The rubber band bracelets were produced using this winner of
several twenty fourteen Toy of the Year awards.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:39:52):
We don't rubber band bracelets. No, no rainbow loom.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
Oh oh yeah, never.

Speaker 7 (01:39:59):
Heard, never hear to that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
James and Percy are friends of this train, the number
one bad engine.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
What is Thomas the train?

Speaker 11 (01:40:07):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Well, Thomas the tank engine. But you said Thomas.

Speaker 7 (01:40:14):
I'll give it. I'll give you Thomas, all right? Two
one right two one yes.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Finally, twenty fourteen marks the fiftieth anniversary of this oil
company's toy truck, which has its own Mandy.

Speaker 7 (01:40:25):
Oh oh.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
Oh my gosh, my brother had one. Mandy. What a shell? Wrong?
Dang it, Chuck?

Speaker 7 (01:40:34):
What is Texaco also wrong. What is hes?

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
So you both so one zero win for Mandy?

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
No, no, he had two too.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
You were you both went down one, So Chuck wins
one zero?

Speaker 11 (01:40:50):
Then no, no, no, we both had one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
We both we both had Chuck, we're both no because
you you one zero?

Speaker 7 (01:41:01):
Yes, one zero you you.

Speaker 6 (01:41:03):
This is the anesthesia brain that's been killing me for
the last weekous. This is why I had to download
the dumb numbers game that I had to download. I
needed something a little harder than Candy Crush.

Speaker 11 (01:41:13):
That may have been the most pathetic showing by both
of them.

Speaker 6 (01:41:16):
You know what, I blame the situation right now, I'm
broadcasting from home.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
Chucks. Mike wouldn't work, so we're sitting shoulder to.

Speaker 6 (01:41:22):
Shoulder, and it's hard to like stare someone down and
get in their head when you're sitting shoulder to shoulder.

Speaker 11 (01:41:28):
Like this twenty years. You can't stare me down to
get in my head. Hey, I just want to say
thank you to everybody for the nice messages you sent
my wife.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:41:39):
It was awesome. It really made a difference for her.

Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
The movie hotel room is called movie manner. Movie manner
in Montevista, Colorado. Okay, tomorrow, we've got Jill Osa, who
is one of the people who was outed by Do
Better Denver, and we're going to do a deep dive
on what I was just talking about about about the
sort of notion that goodness is tied into political views

(01:42:01):
and it creates an intractable situation that's not based in reality.
So another barn burner of a day you guys tomorrow,
and a Rod will be back at training camp trying
to think of what else I need you to know.

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
Everything's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
More than halfway done with my little article for y'all
for the prepping of the manitouin Incline.

Speaker 6 (01:42:23):
Yay, that'll be awesome, So we'll make that its own
individual blog post and then I'll share it on my blog.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
Tomorrow as well. So boom there we go.

Speaker 6 (01:42:30):
All right, kids, it's time to make room for KOA
Sports coming up next.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
We'll be back tomorrow. Keep it on, KOA

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