08-12-24 FULL SHOW - Issues at Housing for the Homeless, Plus Michelle Zellner!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell. Mammy Connell on KOAM ninety four one, m.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Got Way, Stay the Nicetycus through three, Many Connell, Keithing
Sad Bab Welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Welcome to a Monday edition of the show. I'm your host,
Mandy Connell, here until the Colorado Rockies called.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
Me to pick me up for the Bullpen. I'm not
saying that I was amazing on Saturday, and no, I'm
not saying that at all. I asked Roskeminski to stick
around because.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I always ruined his show and he never has time
to ruin my show.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Lucky us on a Monday, we are super excited.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
I thought I missed a huge opportunity, you know, a
few minutes ago to ask you what I asked listeners
all day.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
What's your the first vinyl album that you remember owning?
I believe it was Kate tells Funky Favorites Ross with
such hits as Hello, Mada, Hello Fada, Junk Food, Junkie,
Snoopy and the Barren and other great records that we
don't make anymore. For about how old. Do you think
you were, gosh, maybe seven or eight. And I played

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it on my little you know, my little portable record player.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
That I had.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
We played that and take get yourself or was it
a gift? I don't recall. I don't recall. It just
was there. Yeah, and we played the heck out of
that record. I bet, and ran around like idiots. What
a great memory. It was fantastic. I still remember right now.
I'm back in time in my room.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
I remember the wallpaper, the bed, everything, and us literally
running around in circles listening to that record.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
I can't believe there was a compilation album with Alan Sherman,
Hello Mada, Hello Fada.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
There was lots of them.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Katel brought all the great funky favorites to us all
the time. Ross did you not get on the k
Tel tray?

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Early didn't know.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I love things like Ktel records, and I love I'm
going to say this, and parents in the audience are
gonna yell at their radio, but I love kids pop.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Okay. When the Q was young, we sheltered her pretty hard,
but you know, we didn't do explicit songs or anything
like that.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah, and so kids Bop was like a godsend because
you don't necessarily want your kids singing along with what's
on the radio. Occasionally, but Kids Bop takes out the
offensive stuff and they have kids sing it, and.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
There are kids pop songs that I like way better
than the actual version of that song.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
How much?

Speaker 4 (02:23):
How much would you pay a Rod right now? Not
to play baby Shark?

Speaker 5 (02:27):
I managed to avoid Baby Sharks successfully until your show
forced upon me not too long ago, and now I
have heard it and I can no longer say that
I made it this far without baby Shark. We didn't
do baby Shark or Barney in our household for Q Barney, Kayu,
what the heck is Kaiua Barney?

Speaker 4 (02:46):
No? No, but maybe if a Rod wants to play along,
you'll get some baby Shark during what was your first
What was your first record? Pablo Cruise Worlds Away. That's
a good one, too, very smooth. You'll probably like the
coolest cat in seven year old right, play any Pablo
Cruise in the hot rock concert you just went to.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
I believe they did, but I would have to look
it up and see for sure, but I'm almost positive
there was one Pablo Cruise yeah song on there, because
He's like, yeah, rock King.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
I mean, he's just fantastic for that. So my question.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
And I was driving to work today and I'm getting
to the blog in just a minute, I promise. So
I'm driving to work today and I have on a
skirt and I haven't worn this skirt in a long time.
It's been in the back of my closet and I
saw it and I was like, Ooh, I'm gonna wear
that skirt. I bet it fits again. So this skirt
has been with me through a lot. This is literally
there's maybe three pieces of clothing that I own that

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I cannot get rid of, cannot get rid of them.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
This skirt is one of them. And this skirt a rod.
How old are you, Ernie.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
This skirt is five years older than a rod. I
got it when I was twenty years old. I'm fifty
five years old now and it's still awesome. And every
female on the sales score was like, that is a
great skirt.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I was like, it might be older than you. I
don't know, depending on who you are. Yeah, So I
was wondering, I can't be the only one to have
these because I'm a ruthless pursure of clothing. I don't
have closets and closets and clothes full.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I don't do that.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
I get rid of stuff if I don't wear it.
This skirt has made the cut over and over and
over and over again, even when it didn't fit and
I was pretty sure it was never going to fit again.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
I have a couple things of that same vintage from
when I owned part of a nightclub and I had
these insane nightclub going shirts and and the.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Pads.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
No, you have to start wearing them to work. I
do just for my own personal edification, all right, just
to work.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
I would not ask you to wear that out and about.
But every day I come in, I want to see
shoulder pads. I want to see club shirts.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I want to see shiny fabric ross. If it's from
the nineties, it is shiny. Pat Yeah, they were shiny.
There's definitely shiny. Christian. I think purged for me because
I'm not a clothes I'm not a clothed persuer like
you I am. And it's not I'm not hoarding them.
I'm just lazy. Yes, you know how guys can be.
I'm just just chuck rely on you to throw out
his old clothes. Chuck will not let me throw out his.

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He is a close hoarder because buying clothes in his
size is often an adventure. Yes, and so you know
he once he buys something, it's like, well, you know,
I might need that again. No, you're never gonna wear
that with me again. I do say that. I'm like, Okay,
that shirt is a not with my wife's shirt. My
ex mother in law would put black x's on the
tags of her husband's T shirts and stuff, and when

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there was an X on there, they were not allowed
to go out in public with her. He could still
wear them in his own time, but if she was
going to be with him, that shirt was not allowed.
I thought it was a genius system because it says
you can have that shirt, you can wear that shirt,
but I don't want to be seen with you in
that shirt. That's your home Depot going two shirt.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Thanks for letting me ruin a little of your show. Amen. Man.
Now I got people that let's see Rothy Tiptoe through
the tulips.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah, and they listen to the heck out of that record.
If no, oh, this person had the same record. Yes, Yes,
Ross to celebrate the Great day.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
What vinyl albums are you play at home? Later today?
I might play some dire Straits later today. Oh, I
love dire Straits. I love Mark Knopfler and he's a genius.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
By the way, this came up because it's National Vinyl
Record Day. So I probably will go over to Angelo's
record store and buy a record just for fun.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, you know my daughter's now a record person.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
You told me that.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yes, she's a record she's a final collector.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
We're working on it anyway. All right, Ross, thank you.
I got to do the blog and you know leisure
suit Ross. Yes, yes, Mandy cancer.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Kyu is what we call him. Why else doesn't he
have any hair?

Speaker 7 (06:34):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
You're right?

Speaker 5 (06:36):
And the annoying voice that that car a rod Sometimes
when you have kids, you need to be strict right now, No, Kyu,
big X over the CAYU tell me twice. Yeah, there's
a lot of kids shows that I can tolerate. Just fine,
Kyu is not.

Speaker 8 (06:51):
No, I'm bringing the way I'm bringing out the ogs.
What uh, let's see SpongeBob.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Sure, SpongeBob. I will just tell you this.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
There's something that you need to know about cartoons and
the way they are made now versus the way they
were made when I was a kid. They are made
for instant Basically, they want to change your attention span.
You do not want that in a small child.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
You do.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
The SpongeBob has.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Multiple cuts super fast today though, okay, then that's fine.
If there's older SpongeBob, then that's fine.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
In the middle, but.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Those we watched it have a negative effect on my daughter,
which she was really little, and when we went back
to older cartoons. She's seen every Scooby Doo ever made
demand and still watches them at fifteen, and when we
went back to the old one, she was fine.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
There's there's stuff that.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Happens in editing and anime and animation especially that is
at tension span related that is not positive.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Natty Cat Dog, rug Rats stands the test of time.
Rugrats will always stand. O Ye, there you go.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Well see before they get to those though, you got
to go through the Kitty cartoons, the Hurt Disney movie.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
They won't get it. There don't have the attention span initially,
they need short here's what you mean, you need. Jack's
Big Music Show.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Two seasons of Jack's Big Music Show are better than
any other children's show in the history of children's shows.
Let me just say that right now. You can't find
it on like, I'm sure it's streaming somewhere. But it's
the best kids show ever made. And they only made
two seasons because I don't know what happened. But that's
the number one. That's what you go to when they're
really little. You'll thank me later. Kat and the Hat

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Love Martin Short Devo.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah, anyway, I'm just looking. Oh, Jan and Dean Surf City.
That's a great record.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Wings Band on the Run. All right, let me do
the blog. Find the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com.
That's mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Look for the headline. This says eight twelve twenty four
blog issues at Housing for the Homeless plus Michelle Zelner.
Click on that and here are the headlines you will
find within. I think you's missing office half of American
all with ships and equipments of scene that's going to
press plant.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Today on the blog?

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Can we talk about Fusion Studios? Michelle Zelner is back.
Another basic income program launches. We'll be at the DNC
next week thanks to Golden Spike roofing This story about
Aurora water is crazy. Denver is pushing its restaurants seen
out a big cheer for Mose Broadway bagels. Parents are
suing Adams County Schools for transitioning their daughter. Here are

(09:31):
some of the coolest things made in Colorado. Independence are
taking over Colorado.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
The sweet cord is in.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
I did not embarrass myself throwing out the first pitch
protect kids. Colorado isn't going anywhere. Climate change isn't as
big a problem as our debt. The Olympics are over ish.
Congrats to these Colorados who won medals. What Olympic sport
can show themselves out? And now a panda with new toys. Yes,
too much caffeine can kill you. Let's s attractive people

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die sooner. This raw dogging thing is getting beyond stupid.
Ukraine rolls into Russia.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Geese is on its way out.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
About bone Nicks, scrolling Democrats are excited about their candidate.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
We've all got popcorn brain.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
A new alphabet song is designed to produce confusion. A
best man speech from above. The Australian breakdancer memes are
just getting going. Kamala is scripted all the time everywhere,
and the quietest social club ever. Those are the headlines
on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Mandy Fractured Fairytales

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was a great tartoon for adults too.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Never watched that one. Love Veggietails, you ready, veggietails. Veggietails
was just not on my radar if it wasn't in
the rotation all the time, you know, So we did,
we just didn't do it.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
And also I used to make up bedtime stories for her,
which I guess subconsciously must have been inspired by veggietails,
because I made up tales about various vegetables and fruits
and they all had different.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well yeah yeah, in ours they were there was all
like a little morality tale about what happened during the day,
about how do you.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Know, get on with things. The Wiggles was the worst
thing ever. Veggietails was awesome.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I don't even remember the Wiggles were those those four
Australian guys, different colored shirt guys. Four grown men dancing
around talking to little kids is a little bit creepy essentially. Okay,
well there you go, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
You cannot go past the original acid and douce shows
such as Ren and stimpy plays them all a young
boys humor. Renten City is amazing, but let's be real,
ren and stimpy and pinky in the brain, they are
meant for people a little bit older. I'm talking about
little little little kids. Little little little kids need someone
to tell them not to poop themselves. That's what little
little kids need, in addition to you telling them not

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to poop themselves. Mandy loved Jack's Big Music Show for
my kids. Episodes available on DVD at Amazon, and I
will be buying them. Best kids show ever ever.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Magic School Bus.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
That was good, but not as good as Jack's Big
Music Show, not even close. Not Now, I'm telling you,
once you see Jack's Big Music Show, you'll be like, oh.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
My gosh, Mandy, you were right, I say. You know
why I disagree because I've never seen Jackson exactly.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Once you do, though, you'll be like, oh, yep, she's right,
absolutely right about this. So a couple of things on
the on the docket today. First of all, coming up
at one o'clock, I have been in communication with a gentleman.
We've had him on the show before.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
He is he's living at Fusion Studios, which is one
of the supportive housing units and they call it bridge
housing for people who are coming out of homelessness. That
is the intent anyway, and there's no doubt this is
well intentioned. And he wanted me to say, look, I
get great support. The counselors are wonderful, but and there
are some pretty big butts.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
So today we're going to be talk talking to Kathy Alderman,
she's chief Communications and Public policy officer today about why
these problems are so intractable and why some of them
are significant enough that could be styming the progress of
the people that are actually living there, and that seems counterintuitive,
so we're going to talk to her about that. Then

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we've got Michelle Zelner. She's been traveling all summer back
in the studio with us.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Or is she zoom is? How is Michelle coming? Is
she coming in? Okay? Perfectly, sit up straight. We'll all
be sitting up straight when Michelle comes on. She has
the most amazing posture and she's going to be all
we're going to talk about some sort of resetting. Fall
for me is a great time to sort of reset
the routine when kids go back to school, and if
you don't have kids, I understand, but you're still impacted

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by school starting traffic. It's worse in the morning, school busses,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I like to use
the beginning of the school year to sort of have
a reset on, you know, habits that I've let slide
and things like that. So it's it's time to sort
of do that.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
We're going to talk to Michelle and I just finished
confirming daniel Dorensky or a city council woman, and to
come on the show at two today because there is
some I guess, and I'm going to find out from
Danielle what the sticking point here is. But there are
a lot of people in Aurora saying that certain apartment

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complexes have been completely taken over by a Venezuelan gang,
and that the city of Aurora is now condemning these
properties based on other issues, but they're ignoring the fact
that these issues exist because these gangs had taken over
these apartment complexes and it is impossible for people to
go in to do any kind of repairs or anything

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like that. So we're going to talk to Danielle. She's
been tweeting about this relentlessly, and we're going to talk
to her at two o'clock and see if we can
get a handle on what is actually happening and what
is being reported, because those two things do not seem
to match. Now, you might ask yourself, why wouldn't someone
report this? Well, you know, the city of Denver has

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been really invested in welcoming tens of thousands of people,
most of them from Venezuela to the Denver metro area,
going so far as to provide them housing, computers, phones,
job training. But I don't think they know if any
of these people are in gangs. And I'm not in
any way, shape or form saying that everybody who's come
here from Venezuela is in a gang. I don't believe that,

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not for a second. But it stands to reason that
out of forty something plus people, some of those people
are gonna be gang members. So we're gonna talk to
Daniel at two o'clock about that. Hey, a Ron, I
just asked Ross this question. Do you have a piece
of clothing that you've had? Now you're only thirty, so
I'm gonna say, at least fifteen years old, do you

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have anything? Even though you've lost a ton of weight
throwing a lot of that stuff will fit anymore? What
made the cut? What was the thing that you were like, Ah,
I just can't. I can't get rid of that.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Does it have to be something you wear still?

Speaker 8 (15:53):
Because I have a collector's T shirt some graphic teas
that I won't throw out no matter what. Okay, now
here's the caveat is if I don't, if I really know,
I'll never wear it again.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I give it to my mom. And she makes those
cool T shirt blankets. Oh my god, can she use
that for chuck? I'll pay her.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
I will one hundred pay her. Yeah, Okay, I don't
really even think she does it herself. I think she's
a sight. But the very least you can tell you
about it. But we definitely love doing that. Because you
don't wear it, you still want.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
To keep it.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
It's a cool way to keep them. It's awesome we
have so we.

Speaker 8 (16:22):
Have like multiple of those T shirt blankets now just
because of through the years.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
It's it's awesome, it's cool to look at it. So
what do you have that you don't wear anymore? I
don't know.

Speaker 8 (16:32):
If I I you said I threw out a lot
moving into the new house, like I tossed a lot.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
I have a letterman's jacket from high school. Obviously, I'm
not going to get rid of it. I'm not gonna
walk around in it because I'm fifty five and I
left high school.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Behind a long time ago.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
But I also have this I just absolutely stunning. I
think and Paula leather blazer. Guys think that nineteen seventies
leather blazer.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
This is me out of Impaula leather.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
And my dad had it and it was the only
nice thing that my grandparents ever, my maternal grandparents gave
to my father because they didn't like each other.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
And I still have it.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I don't wear it.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I have it.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
The lining is completely dissolved out of it, and I
don't know where to have that replaced. But this skirt
that I have on thirty five years old, and it's
back in style, ladies and germs, back in style so
much so that all of.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
The women that I work with were like, that is
a great skirt. Like, eh, it's old as hell.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Mandy Kyle Clark will fight you if you ever mentioned
there are any Venezuelan gangs.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hmmm. That from a texter.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
You can text us all the time at the koa
common Spirit Health text line at five six six nine. Oh, Mandy,
I have a little black cardigan that is at least
thirty five years old. It's still in great shape. I
wear it all the time. Did you say Ross was
only thirty? No, A Rod is thirty. Ernie Anthony is thirty.
Ross is little bit older than me, but not much so.

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He's young.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
I might be late for the subject.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
But does anyone remember the kids show The Electric Company? Yes,
send him a saz box three five oh Boston match
oh two one three four?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Oh, No, that was Zoom. Sorry about that.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Project repat dot com, Project repat t shirt blankets perfect.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
We'll do that soon. Always use a coupon. Yes, I
do remember the Electric Company. I just mentioned that.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
It used to come on right back to back with Zoom.
Sorry about that. My wife has done T shirt quilts.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
They're really cool. They're really, really, really cool.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Beavis and butt Head t shirt. Can't get rid of
the old Beavis and butt Head T shirt.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
I kind of love that. I love that I have
you know what you said at least fifteen years old
or my thirty.

Speaker 8 (18:48):
Now it's borderline I have the only one I can
think of is an old graphic T shirt at one
of the bands I like back in the in the
gothic looking days.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
You are got you?

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Oh nice, the slipknotch. Account still have it when we
were when we get back, I've got. Now you're sending
me your clothes, and I love it because some of them.
I probably have two.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
But we're going to talk in addition about universal basic income.
Milan Friedman, a guy you would not necessarily think would
be in favor of it, makes the case next Hi, Mandy,
you can always text us, by the way, at the
Common Spirit Health text line five six six ' nine.
Oh is that number to text hey Mandy?

Speaker 5 (19:22):
I still have and wear an LLBean flannel lined cotton
shirt I got when I was eighteen.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
I'm fifty seven now. It is thread worn, but perfect
to wear working around the house or on a home
depot run. Lol. Exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
You men know you have your home depot run outfits.
We have our Target outfits. Okay, I mean yoga pants
will never die just because of Target. Bobby Book's gray
wooll belted mini shirt dress that I had in high school.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
So fifty two years Old We're a last winter with
black leggings. These are the best things.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Oh so good, so good, Mandy, I don't have any
clothes that are not fifteen years old assigned to the cookbook.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I Hi, don loving the cookbooks.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Mandy Rita Moreno was our college speaker commencement at CSUP
class of nineteen ninety four and started her address with, Hey,
you guys, we all went nuts. That's a kickback to
the Electric company. If you know, you know, Hi, Mandy,
I have a T shirt for the nineteen ninety six
Olympics still in my drawer. I just bought an Olympics

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T shirt half price at Old Navy. Just an FYI, Mandy,
find an actual Oh that's it, okay, perfect. Now, I
want to talk about this concept of basic income, basic
universal income for a second, because this is kind of
grabbing a little bit of a toe hold. There are
a lot of pilot projects that are being done around

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the country where a certain amount of money is provided,
no strings.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Attached to people. Now, these pilot programs are a little bit.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
I don't know, they're a little bit misleading based on
what I'm going to tell you in just a few
minutes about Milton Friedman. Milton Freeman was the ultimate free
market economist and one of the best defenders of capitalism,
one of the best destroyers of the socialistic and socialism's
ideals that never lived up to. Remember, when socialism fails,

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it's not because socialism is bad.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
It's because they didn't do it right. That's what we're
always sold. Well, Venezuela, they didn't do it right. We
all know if we've done it, we do it right.
But they didn't do it right. It's always the same excuse.
Never the underlying system is wrong.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
But in an editorial from the Gazette, the Denver Gazette,
they go on to talk about Boulder County, and I'll
read one small part here as such, it is troubling
to see Boulder County become the latest jurisdiction to confuse
handouts as a form of compassion. The county, following the
city of Boulder, recently announced a new six million dollar

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program using federal Fiat currency to fund a basic income
program for seven hundred and twenty five recipients chosen by lottery.
The money will come with no restrictions, meaning one could
spend it to start a new business.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Feed children or buy a lot of beer. The county will.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Distribute three hundred dollars each month for two years to
each recipient. Qualifications for entering the lottery included maximum income
thresholds among adults with at least one child under four.
Now they go on to talk about various universal basic
income projects and one of the biggest that has been
done was done by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
They published the results last month and out of one.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Thousand low income individuals, they were randomly chosen to receive
one thousand dollars each month for three years. So that's
a lot of money. I mean, that's twelve grand a year.
That's nothing to write, that's nothing to sneeze at. As
they say, the transfer the free one thousand dollars caused
total individual income to fall by about fifteen hundred dollars

(23:06):
a year relative to the control group excluding the transfers.
So what that means is people worked less. The program
resulted in a two percentage point decrease in labor market
participation for participants and a one point three to one
point four hour per week reduction in labor hours. That
means that we've transferred taxpayer dollars in some cases. Otherwise

(23:28):
it's donated money in others to people and they are
working less, they are bringing in fewer dollars throughout the year.
That's terrible. But here's my question. If we're looking at
this in a circumstance where you're doing a one off
where it's not going to negatively affect the welfare benefits
that someone on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum

(23:50):
is going to get, I don't think that's a fair
comparison to what Milton Friedman has proposed. He called it
the negative income tax. And I have a video on
the blog today and I'm not going to play it.
I think it's like six minutes long. When you see
here how long it is hanging on one second. Let
me get through this ad and then I will tell
you because it is six minutes and thirty four seconds.

(24:13):
That will surprise you. If you don't already know about
Milton Friedman talking about universal basic income, then you might
be surprised because he's a small government guy, a very
small government guy, like the smallest of the small government guys.
But he recognized that our current welfare system, and you

(24:33):
can like it or not, it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
It's never going to go away. It's never going to
go away in its entirety. So we need to stop
saying we're just need to end all welfare.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
That's not realistic, partly because some people are incapable of
taking care of themselves through mental or physical disability, or
perhaps they don't have a very high IQ. There are
a lot of people who need government assistance or else,
you know, we're not sure how they would by. They
would probably end up hopeless because they're not capable of

(25:03):
taking care of themselves. A certain segment of the population
is always going to fall into that category. But ultimately
Milton Friedman decided that he called it the negative income
tax that would provide upfront a monthly stipend either once
a month twice a month, but it will replace all
other welfare programs. And this I can one hundred percent

(25:27):
get behind. And in this video there's the five top
reasons that Milton Freemen. This was the best video I
found this morning. I watched like six of them trying
to find the one that was concise and gave the
right information. But if we're going to have people on welfare,
we have to do two things. Immediately one is do
something about the welfare cliff. And the welfare cliff is
what traps people in poverty. And I have known people

(25:49):
in my lifetime who have found themselves in a situation
where they had to tap into some kind of government help. Overwhelmingly,
I'm talking about women who are married with children. Husband
comes home and says, sorry about your luck. I've found
someone else and I'm leaving and left them high and dry.
And these women didn't have marketable skills at the time,
so they did a tap into government resources. And what

(26:12):
they found was it getting off of government resources was
a lot more difficult than getting on too government resources,
unless you simply went and got a job that made
enough money to cover all of those benefits that you
would lose as soon as your income goes above.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
A certain number.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
The welfare cliff is horrific, absolutely horrific, and it something
has to stop. Well, if we go to a universal
basic income that replaces all other welfare programs.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Then they would continue receiving that.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Monthly stipend until their income got to a level that
was high enough that they could take the hit. Now,
I know what you're saying, why would you go over
that number. Some people would not some people would. The
devil's in the details of how you make all this work.
When Milton Freeman has addressed that multiple times throughout talking
this before his death, Milton Friedman hated government, and I

(27:04):
don't mean hated it in an anarchist way. He saw
government as a necessary evil because he understands they're bad
actors and you have to have some sort of structure
that is designed to ensure the freedoms of the people. Right,
So he's anti big government, and welfare programs spread across
as many agencies and as many departments are the source

(27:26):
of a huge amount of bureaucracy that you can get
rid of if you just go to a universal basic income.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Now.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
I've gone back and forth on this because I think
anything that disincentivizes work is a problem. But our current
welfare system not only disincentivizes work, it traps people in
a situation where they cannot better themselves without losing more
than they stand again in the short term if they
want to move ahead and have long term gain.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
It's just a terrible system. It is just awful.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
I had a friend in Louisville that ran a mark
A grocery type market and we went in there one
time and I was waiting. He had a little deli
where you could get sandwiches made. They were super good.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
And I'm standing behind the counter and this guy walks
up to greet me, looks at the clock, turns around
and walks out, clocks out and leaves. And I was
telling my friend.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
I was like, dude, that was really weird. You got
to talk to him about that. I mean, you know,
it was just very strange. It left me as a customer.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
I didn't love it. He goes, well, if he works
more than a certain number of hours a.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Week, he'll lose his food stamps. And that's what I'm
talking about. Universal basic income may take care of that.
So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Five six six, n I know.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
And if you still have a piece of clothing that
you just can't get rid of, I want to know
about that. As I sit here in my thirty five
year old skirt, this person said universal income, Look at
our Indian reservations. How is that government program working Indian reservations.
In my view, the issue there is that we have
taken away the property rights of the Native Americans of
the reservations. They don't technically own that land when they should,

(29:03):
and they should be able to sell it, they should
be able to bequeath it to their heirs, they should
be able to do all of those things that normal
people can do with property. And until they fully control
their own destiny, that's never gonna happen. I don't understand
why that hasn't been done already. We have some tribes
thriving and other tribes living in misery. So you know,
I don't know why we can't share best practices. But

(29:25):
I've always thought the reservation should be completely You guys
run it. You guys figure out what you want to
do here, and whatever happens from this point forward.

Speaker 9 (29:33):
Is on you.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
You can succeed or you can fail. Do whatever you're
going to do, but then we'll call it a day.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Because it's absurd that we still have people living in
grinding poverty on Indian reservations. That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I love the fact that you guys are sending me
your clothing items that you still have this when Mandy,
I still wear my Pendleton wool shirt that I got
when I was thirteen and I'm now seventy eight years old.
That's insane.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Twenty plus year old black pencil skirt from target. Daughter
stole it and took it to college. Exactly you would
have gotten away with it was those meddling kids.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Dog. Uh.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
This person asked, Mandy, where can I see the video
of you throwing out the first pitch? Well, you've got
to see. It's not just the video. It is a
great sizzle reel of the throwing of the first pitch
that is complete with actual audio of Jack and Jerry
calling my pitch as I threw it, which was amazing,
absolutely amazing. Do you notice Arod when I'm walking up
to the mound?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Do you have that video? Do you know what I'm mouthing?
What are you mouthing? Mouthing? Do not embarrass yourself? Do
you embrass yourself? I said it all the way up
to the mouth, over and over again, like rain Man,
like everyone's watching. Oh yeah, Thankfully it was mostly Braves fans,
so we didn't have to worry about people knowing me.
It's fine.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
You weren't at the game on Saturday, Were you no
a Rod? When I say eighty percent? Oh yeah, that
was my guest. It was so bad that The only
time the crowd roared loud enough to impede conversation where
we were was when anything happened good for the Braves.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Not ideal, No, no, it was not. We are now
the Tampa Bay Rays in this respect, where our fans
are going to travel from other markets to go see
our team.

Speaker 8 (31:18):
Yeah, but different in the sense that at the RAISE games,
no one goes either team most of them.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
No, oh no, no, no, you are dead wrong about that.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
No, because they're in the same division as the Red
Sox and the Yankees, so they play multiple series against
them throughout the year. All of those are full of
teams from the opposing fans. A lot of RAISE games
are full of fans from the opposing team, And that's
an unfortunate place to play if you're a baseball player
who is now basically playing an away game every single game,

(31:47):
because that's how it starts to feel.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
And Saturday night it was bad. It was really really bad.
So there you go, go, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
I still have my leather jacket from the eighties. Wait,
hang on, just refreshed here. I sold my leather jacket
from high school in the eighties. This metal head chicken.
Lots of memories of bonfires and parties and concerts and
of course all the amazing friends. I will never get
rid of it. That's how I feel about my skirt
that I have on today. It's a denim skirt and
it's deconstructed, a pair of deconstructed.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Genes, so to go. And this skirt has seen a lot.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
It's been to so many music festivals I can't even begin,
cannot even begin. This skirt's been with me through good times,
bad times, lots of parties. It was there for my
lost decade of my twenties. So yeah, how would the
Indians own the land if they haven't bought it? Just
let's end the charade. Let's stop being paternal towards the

(32:42):
Native Americans. Just here you go, here's your reservations.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Take it. It's yours. Do whatever you want with it,
divide it up, do whatever you can.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
But it's yours. You own it now, and this is
your stuff. I don't know why again, they haven't done
that yet, Mandy. I have a blue button up sweater
I bought at all alco in ninety nine that I
just wore to my niece's wedding reception.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
It looks great still yeah, Yeah, I'm all about UBI
if you get rid of all the other monetary services.
Exactly right. And there's the sticking point. Universal basic income works.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Great as a replacement for all other welfare benefits, but
not in addition, because that market is already terribly distorted,
and I'm guessing it would probably knock some people off
their welfare benefits if it's all means tested. The welfare
system is a nightmare and a disaster, but a necessary one.
I really believe that I'm a small government person, but

(33:35):
I don't want people to starve. I don't want children
to starve. I don't want any of that stuff to happen.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
But we've got to.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Streamline the system and make it work and put some
sense of personal responsibility back into people in the hopes
that they will move towards greater personal responsibility instead of
greater dependence. And I think universal basic income is a
better way to do that than what we're doing now.

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Speaker 5 (34:20):
Bab Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connell, joined by Anthony Rodriguez. I
call him Andy. I don't call him Andy. I never
call him Andy. I don't even know why I said that.
Please just rewind that part. Thank you, Ron joining me now, join,
of course, by Anthony Rodriguez, who I don't call Andy,

(34:41):
to be clear. Also joined by Kathy Alderman. She is
the chief communications and public policy officer at the Colorado
Coalition for the Homeless and Kathy, I'm.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Glad you came on the show.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
I appreciate it, and I wanted to ask you specifically
about some of the issues at Fusion Studios, which is
so sportive housing and bridge housing for people who are
trying to exit homelessness.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Right, that's Is that a fair way to say what
Fusion is.

Speaker 9 (35:08):
Yes, the Coloral Coalition for the Homeless owns and operates
Fusion Studios, which is a former hotel that was turned
into studio apartments to serve people exiting the cycle of
homelessness or for people who are high risk of becoming homeless.
And on that site we have one hundred and thirty
nine units of supportive housing where we provide case management services,

(35:28):
we provide some clinical services on site, we have property
management on site, and really it's a pathway for folks
who are exiting the cycle of homelessness to stabilize in
housing and hopefully get connected to the things that they
need to stabilize the rest of their life so they
can be successful in all areas of their life moving forward.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Well, I have been in contact with a resident at
Fusion Studios and he has said, look, the case managers,
the people on site at Fusion are amazing, Like he
has nothing bad to say about anyone, and he appreciates
the support he gets. And we're not specifically talking about him,
but in.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
His case or in everyone's case, the Internet has become
a huge problem and for people who are either trying
to get or do work and need that online connectivity,
this has been a big source of irritation, especially because
Fusion just got an infusion of many millions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
To fix this issue. So what is the status of
the Internet at Fusion Studios.

Speaker 9 (36:31):
Well, and that's great to hear that people have positive
things to say about our staff. I have the honor
of getting to talk about the great work we do
and the great people who do that work, so it's
good to hear it coming from community as well. So
I want to go back to the question about this
infusion of funding into Fusion Studios. So it is true
that Denversity Council approved a one million dollar grant several

(36:54):
months ago from the Department of Public Health and Environment
Dinverse Department of Public Health and Environment to support our
mental and behavioral health services on site, both at Fusion
and at other properties. This grant allowed us to hire
some additional behavioral health staff and case management staff for
some of our properties, and it's also allowing us to
do mental health first aid training throughout our organization. We

(37:19):
have eight over eight hundred employees in our organization and
many of them will undergo this training. A very small
portion of that contract was for some internet upgrades at
Fusion Studios so that our clinical staff could access the
electronic health records and provide better telehealth service. Wi Fi

(37:40):
is made available to all of the residents, but it's
not necessarily a guarantee because really the reason Wi Fi
exists on that property is twofold. First is for our
staff and clinicians to provide the care that we need
to do, and because it was an old motel, we
couldn't wire the building so that every individual room could
have their own Internet access, and so we thought providing

(38:03):
Wi Fi might be a better way to deal with
the infrastructure of the building. But also, you know, to
give people the option to use the Wi Fi that
we make available.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
So why has it been so intermittent?

Speaker 5 (38:16):
At some points it's out all the time and then
it comes back on, and then it'll be on for
a little while. And I realized that this isn't something
that you guys are sort of promising. But at the
same time, in today's age, it is impossible to apply
for a job unless you have the ability to go online.
There's so many things that have to happen to be

(38:37):
a functioning member of society that you need internet access for.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
So I mean, why has it been such a challenge
keeping that up for the residents.

Speaker 9 (38:47):
So when we did go in and do some of
the upgrades on property, we know that there were several
days where access was a little bit more limited to
our residents. But since that time, I've been speaking with
our IT department and our property management team pretty regularly,
and you know, most days we have more than one
hundred and thirty devices logged onto the Wi Fi, So

(39:09):
people are using the Wi Fi for their phones, for
their TV services, for gaming, you know, whatever people use
Wi Fi for. Many people on site are are able
to access it. And you know, obviously, if you do
have that many people and that many devices on one system,
sometimes it does get slow, or sometimes it does provides

(39:30):
more intermittent service than than than folks would like. But
we certainly recognize the importance of Internet access. We have
a computer lab on site that we allow people to
access to. We work our case managers work with individuals
both on their own devices and as well as you know,
taking them to the library if that's necessary, because we

(39:51):
do recognize that getting access to internet is critical for
job applications and you know, for getting access to appointm
it's for health care and for you know, mental health care.
So again, it is a service that we provide on
site as a as a courtesy because of the building's infrastructure.
But it's not it's not something that is written into

(40:13):
our residence leases, nor is it a guarantee. And frankly,
we just don't have the IT capacity to support one
hundred and thirty nine individuals at that property to make
sure that their devices connect. We certainly try and when
we can, but we just don't have we don't have
an IT team that is dedicated to uh, you know,

(40:34):
to our residence at any of our properties.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Right, Okay, So let me let me switch cares a
little bit and ask about safety and security at Fusion
because recently, fairly recently, there was an attack on one
resident on the other and uh, the staff was very
supportive of the victim in this case and encourage them
to report it to police. But from what I'm hearing,

(40:58):
and this is again Anne total, these issues of people
being very high on drugs or alcohol and then coming
in and either breaking things or pulling fire alarms in
the middle of the night, things of that nature that
make this a very difficult environment for someone who is
either a trying to stay sober. That's the first thing, Like,
if you're trying to stay sober, this is a very

(41:20):
challenging environment. But what kind of screening if any goes
into who comes into Fusion? Are there requirements of sobriety
in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
How does that look?

Speaker 9 (41:32):
Well, So, I first want to say that you know,
the safety of our clients, of our residents, of our
staff is you know, primary importance to us, and it's
why we have security of staff, and it's why we
have off duty police officers outside, you know, kind of
walking the property with some frequency or coming by the

(41:53):
property with some frequency, and it's why we check in
regularly on our residents in their units, through our case
managers and clint is to make sure people are feeling safe. However,
we certainly know that there have been some incidents of
violence and unfortunately that violence has been perpetrated against residents
of the property, and in those instances, it is our
primary concern to ensure that that person is safe and

(42:15):
that they are cared for that you know, they need
to go to the hospital that we're you know, we're
getting them there, and as you mentioned that that we're
following up with police to make sure that the perpetrator
can't continue to engage in that type of behavior on
the property, which often leads to evictions for people who
behave in a violent way in our property. I'll also

(42:37):
mentioned that because of the nature of the property, we've
had quite a bit of violence perpetrated against the building
and so people who don't live there, who unfortunately will
throw things through the windows or you know, break doors,
and so that can lead to a lot of maintenance
that we have to do to take care of the property,
which again is our responsibility because we you know, we

(42:57):
want it to be a safe and welcoming place for
folks to live. In terms of screening clients or potential residents,
so the color pollution of the homeless operates on a
housing first model. That means that we help people resolve
their homeless homelessness by getting them into housing, and then
we work with those individuals on all of the issues
that led to their homelessness. And in some instances that's

(43:19):
job loss, some instances, it's a family breakup. In some instances,
it's mental or physical health issues. In some instances it's
substance use issues. But we don't tell people that you
only deserve housing if you fix these things first. So
our model is that we bring you into housing, we
help you to stabilize, and then we know that we
will have much more success in addressing the issues that

(43:40):
led to your homelessness, and maybe even perpetrated or major
homelessness experience more lengthy and so you know, and so
at times that it does mean that we are housing
people that are involved with the criminal legal system and
it's our goal to resolve that help them resolve that
issue so that they can be successful in housing long term.

(44:01):
And in some instances does mean that people are using
substances oftentimes because of their experience of homelessness, and we
will work with them to address that substance use disorder
once they're stably helped.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
So, in theory, there could be a person with a
with a violent criminal history that lives at Fusion Studios.

Speaker 9 (44:21):
In theory, there could we do you know, we do
have some screening processes in place in terms of you know,
like somebody here who may have committed a murder, we
would screen that person much differently than we might if
somebody had been found guilty of theft. So we do
work with the individuals to make sure that it's going

(44:42):
to be a good a good option for them. But
again we don't think that there you know, there are
so few options for people that are involved with the
criminal legal systems for housing that we do want to
provide that pathway to recovery and stability.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
So is Fusion. These are studios so these do you
serve families at all or is it just adults?

Speaker 9 (45:06):
The color pollution for the homeless does serve families, but
we don't serve families at Fusion Studios. That's not to
say that we wouldn't preclude a couple or maybe a
single mother or some or a single parent from staying there.
But I think we you know, again, we are very
person centered. We work with individuals to find out what
housing solution is going to be best for you and
can we meet it Because we own and operate twenty

(45:28):
one other residential properties comprising about two thousand units of
housing in the Denver area, and so oftentimes if one
property doesn't work for an individual, then you know, we
can find them another another property in another part of town.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Without you know, going into great detail or any specific cases,
I have heard anecdotally from not just the person that
I am in contact with on a regular basis, but
from a few other people who said the level of
disconnect or the range of challenges that live at Fusion
Studios is across the spectrum. You have people that are

(46:05):
just coming in from long term situations on the streets
that for lack of a more compassionate way to say it,
have almost become feral in some ways and don't necessarily
know how to be a part of a collective unit.
And then you have people that have been either at
fusion for several years and they've had the ability to
sort of put things back together. Is there any opportunity

(46:26):
or any future plans for the coalition to create some
kind of step housing so people that are closer to independence,
if that is the endgame, could could live in a
more sort of I hate to say it, but stable
environment with more stable neighbors who are on the same
path they are.

Speaker 9 (46:44):
Yeah, that's a great question, and it is, and it
is a model that we embrace in terms of we
embrace transitional and bridge housing options, and so that's kind
of what you're seeing the mayor and his office embrace
in terms of micro communities and using motiles for shorter
term stays. We recognize that people coming directly from shelters
and directly from the streets often benefit from a short

(47:08):
term stay in a stable environment while they, you know,
kind of I guess, get out of the chaos of
homelessness and start thinking about long term housing. And so
we do embrace that model. Fusion Studios was intended to
be long term housing for folks exiting the cycle of homelessness.
Now we know that there are people that are in
different phases of their path to stability, and our hope

(47:31):
is that it's going to be that everyone in the
building is going to be able to live and function
and have their needs met there on a long term basis.
And we also know that some people, just by virtue
of being in that property for a long time, may
start looking for opportunities to live somewhere else, and we
want to help them.

Speaker 10 (47:49):
On that pathway.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
So that is that for me.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
It seems to be the biggest issue for the people
that I've spoken with because they are further along in
the process, and it's just it's discouraging when someone is
trying to do the right thing and they feel stymied,
and especially I'm guessing.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
You know better than I do.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
This is a population that doesn't do well with setbacks.
So it's one of those things that I hope. Is
there anything that could be done on a longer term
basis about the Internet at Fusion or other properties like
this bridge, because I just don't see it. Seems to
me it would be impossible to move forward without having
that steady access. And I get your point that there's

(48:29):
just so many people on one you know, on one
Wi Fi, that it's just overloading the system. But what
about people who genuinely just say, look, I need this
to work.

Speaker 9 (48:39):
I mean, I would say that, you know, while we've
certainly heard of instances where you know, connections have been
slow and some people haven't been able to connect on
a daily basis, we have multiple devices connected and using
Wi Fi, we have staff using Wi Fi every single day,
and so so I think that you know, the the

(49:00):
service is there, and then in some instances, it's going
to take an additional step I think for some individuals
to use it in the way that they need to,
and we will work with those individuals to the very
best of our ability to make sure that that is
a smooth process. But it's like I said, we don't
necessarily have the IT capacity to have you know, an
IT department on site to fix every issue as it

(49:22):
may arise every single day, and so you know, we
really rely on the residents in the building to alert
us when the Wi Fi is down, and you know,
like just like your computer home, every now and again
we have to weset it, but we do have many
more access points through the building than we did before.
But the Wi Fi is again used by staff and clinicians,

(49:43):
and so there are certain firewalls and protections in place
to protect client and personally identifiable data that it's covered
through HIPPA, and so we have to have some of
those firewalls in place to make sure that the information
that our staff are collecting on site is safe.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Well, that is all well and good. This person just said,
can you get a second Wi Fi? Like businesses? Due
it's I think everybody's looking for.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
The easy solution here and trying to help move us
towards that so people can be successful.

Speaker 9 (50:16):
And and I'm not an IT person, so I don't
know what it means to get a second WiFi, but
I know that there are you know, I know that
there is a Wi Fi channel for staff to access
and a Wi Fi channel for residents to access, and
oftentimes they overlap, but it's the same system, so I,
you know, I can't really speak to what it would
mean to put in another system. I can just speak

(50:37):
to kind of what I what we know today about
how many devices are actually using the Wi FI on
a regular basis.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
All right, Kathy Alderman with the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless.
I appreciate your time today, and I appreciate the efforts.
You know, fundamentally, I disagree with the no sobriety option.
I'm a big fan of step Denver, but I know
you guys are all trying to do the same thing.
So I appreciate you making time today and explaining what's going.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
On over there.

Speaker 9 (51:05):
Sure, thanks for having me today, all.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Right, Kathy, thank you. You know, just trying to get
some answers for people. How frustrating that must be, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
The bottom line says this text is there is no
sobriety requirement for housing.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
This is why success level is negligible. And I, you know,
I agree with it. Mandy. Where's Joe Biden? Did any
fund universal connectivity? Well, as far as I know, Joe
Biden was on the beach this weekend in Delaware looking
super chill and relaxed. I mean, World War three is
about to break out in the Middle East. No big whoop,

(51:43):
he's got time. He's got time. Yeah. I love that
you guys are still sending me clothing items you can't
get rid of is your I use student loan money
to buy a gray Swede jacket with fringe in nineteen
eighty six. I still wear it when my adult children
knew a reminder of how cool their dad still is.
And I bet that does that for them, sir, Yep, fringe, fringe, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
I had my high school class T shirt class of
eighty nine up on a shelf in my closet for decades.
My daughter thought it was cool because it was vintage
and asked if she could have it.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I told her, okay, but take care of it.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
She promptly turned it into a crop shirt and wore
it when she dyed her hair red. Oh well, I
could have worn it to my thirty fifth class reunion recently.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Yes, indeedy, you could have. You could have, but you didn't.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Now, lots of stuff on the blog today that I
want to get to. So we've got to talk for
a moment about this Aurora water story. And this is
I don't know if you guys remember have you ever
seen oh gosh, the Jack Nicholson movie.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Is it Chinatown?

Speaker 11 (52:51):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Hang on, let me make sure that's the right movie. Chinatown.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
It's about water ultimately, and a crazy side story with
let Me See Here. It was inspired by the California
Water Wars, a series of disputes over southern California water
at the beginning of the twentieth century which Los Angeles
interests secured water rights in the Owens Valley. We are
living through our own Chinatown. It's a great movie. Hey, Roger,

(53:18):
you need to watch Chinatown. I need a full review
from your perspective. Great movie. Okay, Jack Nicholson, Faye down Away, fantastic.
But the whole thing was about water rights and the
fight over water rights. And we're seeing this happen and
we're gonna talk to David miogamgoya.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
I think, thank you. It is Mogoya.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
I could picture in my mind, it just couldn't make
my mouth say it. David mcgoya has been writing this
series on Aurora's water situation, and if you want to
understand why any big water project gets done, just read this.
I've talked multiple times about a similar water project, not similar,
but similar in Douglas County from called RWR, and it's

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exactly the same kind.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Of boondoggle as Aurora is in the middle of.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Now, maybe we'll have a chance to ask Daniel Jorensky
about that. At two, she's coming on to talk about
the multiple housing.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Units that have been taken over by Venezuelan gang Allegedly.
We'll find out more about that. I also, oh, shoot,
let me take a break.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
When we get back, Denver is literally shoving chefs out
of Denver.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
I will explain next. I want to get this story
in because I think it's really interesting in the Colorado Sun.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Months before the global pandemic, chef Troy Guard opened his
first restaurant outside of Denver, a Garden Great steakhouse in Houston.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Then COVID kicked our butt, he said. The restaurant eventually
found its place in the city, even landing top honors
in a state where beef is just part of being Texan.
And now, Guard, who began building.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
His restaurant Empire Tag Restaurant Group in Denver into Ono
thousand and nine, is leaving Colorado for greener pastures.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
He says, my wife and I are moving to Houston.
The company will still be based in Denver, but we
want to grow more of the company in Houston because
it's a better climate for business and restaurants over there. Honestly,
I love Denver.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
I've been here twenty three years, but it's becoming more
and more difficult every year to open restaurants. The last
three restaurants have taken way too long by the city
to okay, and I'm just kind of over that now.
Lest you think these are just you know, hash slingers,
this article talks to some of the best known restaurant

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tours in the metro area and they all kind of
have the same story to tell, like Denver has broken
them between the absurd minimum wage that they are expected
to pay tipped employees to the difficulty getting things permitted
in a timely fashion. We're now seeing chefs that have

(55:58):
opened multiple restaurants, like Alex Sidell. He's like, I'm done,
I'm done opening restaurants here. And they break it down
why things cost more? How much they cost all of
that stuff, and the headline Denver costs more, and you had.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
To wonder when the breaking point would come.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
And you know, being a resident of Douglas County, we
have some great restaurants in Douglas County, but there's always
room for more. Why don't we make Douglas County like
choose some space and Loane tree, and let's make that
a restaurant court or a restaurant destination.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Get out from under all those ridiculous mandates. I don't
know what, and maybe they are.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Maybe Douglas County's economic Development team has been working diligently
to bring restaurant tours down south, but it is it's
gotten to the point now where we're driving restaurants out
of Denver. And I'm gonna be frank you guys, when
I first got here that here eleven years now, still
can't believe that. Everyone kept saying, oh my god, our
restaurants are so good. They're so good, They're so good.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
And moving from Louisville, Kentucky, you would not think that
Louisville has this incredible food scene, but it does. There
are two culinary schools in Louisville, and people in Louisville
don't usually.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
Move If they're from there, they're gonna die there. They
don't move away. If they move away, it's to get
a spouse and move back. They boomerang back to Louisville.
And they have the most incredible restaurant scene in Louisville.
At every price point, you can get an incredible meal
that's a you know, high dollar meal that.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Is going to knock your socks off.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
But you can also go to like a little Filipino
joint that only has seven seats in it and get
an amazing meal for ten bucks.

Speaker 9 (57:35):
Right.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
So we get out to Denver and we start going
to some of these restaurants that were recommended, and without
without doubt, I walked out feeling, first of all, I
just got mugged. I got mugged, and I didn't even
get anything, you know, you do get out of it.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
I was not impressed.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Now, in the eleven years that we've been here, I
think the restaurant scene has grown and evolved considerably, but
now it's gonna devolve when you have sort of the
anchor chefs of our community, and obviously they didn't talk
to all of them. We have a really, really outstanding
collection of chefs that sort of make up the you know,
the structure, I guess, and now you have some of

(58:15):
those saying, yeah, we're moving to Texas because we don't
want to do business here anymore. This is what unfettered
democratic rule gets you. And this is not me saying
democrats are evil, but what I'm saying is Democratic policies
make it very difficult to run a profitable business, and
restaurants have some of the smallest margins in business. Most

(58:37):
restaurants that I'm talking about independently owned restaurants, mom and
pop restaurants. Maybe you have two or three of these
restaurants a small chain. The profit margins that I am
familiar with are three to five percent. That's not very
much at all. So when labor costs skyrocket, when you
have to pay into family leave, when you have to
do all of these other edicts and mandates that the

(58:59):
Democrats have so just clearly embraced, it gets really hard
to make a living. And at what point do you
have to decide, you know, half a percentage point profit
is not worth it, you know, especially if you're working
sixty eighty hours a week trying to keep the lights on,
and you see your profit margin go down to half

(59:20):
a percent, if you still have a profit margin, I mean.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
That's the thing too, right, it is.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
It's insane on how much of an impact those policies
have on small business owners.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Now, I was just talking to a small.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Business owner in Parker, my friend Jesse, who owns Thrashing Access,
which is still so much fun.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
I'm terrible at it.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
If we're in a post apocalyptic world and you line
everybody up in the world and you're choosing teams, I'm
not saying you may want to choose somebody else instead
of me, But I'm not particularly gifted or skilled at
hurling things and having them stick into the wall.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
But that's not what I'm talking about here. Unlike my
sellar pitching, it's not so much with access.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
But Jesse was trying to expand thrashing access he had
secured at least with a larger building. They'd done all
these renovations and remodels, and I said, dude, what are
you going to actually be open? He's like, these inspections
are killing me, absolutely killing me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
And I don't understand the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Disconnect between the inspection office and the sense of urgency
that business owners who are paying bills every single month
with no income coming in. How can we make that
urgency be felt?

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Or this is possible as well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Are all of the inspector offices so understaffed that we
can't get these things done in a timely fashion?

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
I mean that could be part of it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Or is it that our building codes are so absurdly complex,
that it is almost impossible for a job to be
built out, even by a company that builds these things
every single day perfectly to code. And that now the
inspectors are coming in and say, I'm sorry, that has
to be three inches over to the right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Really three inches?

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
Huh okay, it's I think it's probably a combination of
all these things. But we are making Colorado, not just Denver,
although Denver's way worse than Colorado, so business unfriendly that
now we have all of these empty spaces at the
sixteen Street Mall, the city of Denver is actually going
to be shoveling money at people to come in and

(01:01:28):
rent these spaces.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
But is it worth it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
If you're a small business and you are hoping to
expand and get a second location, how many months can
you carry the rent on that second location before it
starts to put you under?

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
And if you are not sure that you're going to
be able to get the inspections that you need, are
you willing to take the risk? Because at some point, business.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
Owners, good business owners look at the risk the return
on investment and say, yeah, that's not a proposition. I'm
looking forward to minimum wage increase are killing small business,
and yet we're being told that they're a net benefit.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
They're a net benefit, but people are.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Losing their jobs and our most prominent restauranteurs are moving
to Houston, Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
It's a great story from the Colorado Sun. You should read.
It is linked on Today's blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
When we get back, A couple of.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
Parents are suing an Adams County school district and I
have their back on this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
We'll be right back. So this from CPR.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
Apparently a family in Adams County has filed a federal
lawsuit against state and local education authorities, claiming their daughter's
high school aided her social transition to a male identity
without the parent's knowledge or consent, in violation of their
constitutional rights. The lawsuit was filed on Wednesday on behalf
of John and Jane Doe. They allege their fourteen year

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old high school freshmen, referred to as A Doe, asked
a school counselor to help her socially transition to a
identity ZD at school, following school policy. The counselor assisted
ad with the transition, but neither the counselor nor anyone
else at the school told did the does. The lawsuit
claims that a counselor at School District twenty seven j

(01:03:14):
then allowed for Ad to take online therapy sessions on
the counselor's computer, so AD's parents would not be aware
of the social transition. So, of course the school district's like,
we can't comment on pending litigation, But the lawsuit alleges
that the school's actions helped ruin their relationship with their

(01:03:35):
child in e roaded trust.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
While the DOES informed the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
Counselor they did not want Ad to be socially transitioned,
the school nevertheless continued to treat Ad.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
As if she were a boy. That is a violation, according.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
To the lawsuit, of the Due Process clause of the
Fourteenth Amendment, which protects the fundamental rights of parents to
direct and control the upbringing of their children. The lawsuit
also claim so that the district's policy violates the parents'
First Amendment right to maintain certain intimate human relationships, including
family relationships, without undue interference by the state. By the way,

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the complainant also alleges that Ad came to realize she
isn't transgender, is de transitioning and is now on the
path to a happier and healthier life. It's considered best
practices by the National Association of Secondary School Principles to
a firm a student's wishes regarding gender to prevent marginalization

(01:04:35):
and victimization.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Now, let me ask you guys a question, because I've
just had enough of this. I've had enough how old?

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Let me google Aron? Let me google this real quick
vamp for me, real quick like. This is the me vamping.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
While Mandy looks up something on the Google machine, her
thinking face is extremely focused, still googling.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Just now, hang on one second, one more type e
type here see here. US students can drop out of
school when they turn seventeen. Why wait? Why wait?

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Because the reason we make them wait until they're seventeen
is because, as adults, we know that dropping out of
high school has life long ramifications. It has life long
ramifications about how much money you earn, about how many
opportunities are available to you in the future. And as adults,
we have decided to tell children they're seventeen years or

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younger that they cannot drop out of high school. And
yet a school has decided unilaterally to tell a child
to do something that can have lifelong consequences, lifelong medicalization,
lifelong issues with mental health. Because what we do know
is that a vast majority of kids like this student

(01:05:53):
will sort of come to terms with their gender and
go back to living their lives as or stay their
normal gender. It's a very small percentage of young people
that remain transgender. So this group, I mean, you guys,
these lawsuits are happening all over the country. They're happening everywhere,

(01:06:13):
and these lawsuits are going to end up being decided
at the Supreme Court, and it's going to be a
landmark decision for parental rights.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Now, parents don't have the right to abuse their children.
Parents don't have the right to do any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
Parents are supposed to provide a supportive and loving environment
to help their children become good human beings. But that
also doesn't mean that the school gets to decide what
is right for that kid, because guess what, those teachers,
as much as they care about their students, and I
know teachers care about their students, but as soon as

(01:06:48):
that school year is over, you may think fondly of
a student that you had at some point, but you're
not responsible for them in any way, shape or form.
A vast majority of teachers will never go to the
weddings of their students. They won't be there when they
have children to support them, and they're not going to

(01:07:08):
be there through life's difficulties. That's what family is for now.
All families are not good. And if this kind of
revelation leads to a negative outcome for the student, then
the school has a right to report the situation, but
they don't have a right to make a decision that
is permanent and life altering. As these social transitions have
shown that if a kid socially transitions, they will move

(01:07:30):
on to medical transitions, and those cannot be undone no
matter what the gender doctors tell you, they all have permanent,
lasting effects. So I'm I have these parents, I have
your back one hundred percent. I just we have to
sort this out, and we have to take this massive

(01:07:50):
power that our schools are currently operating under when it
comes to intervening in family matters and destroying relationship Because
when a school says, we are.

Speaker 12 (01:07:58):
Not going to tell your parents because obviously they're not trustworthy,
Obviously they would reject you, Obviously they would probably beat you, they're.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Making the assumption and then putting that into the kids heads.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
It's a nightmare, absolutely a nightmare. And if this happened
to my daughter, the first thing I would do would
be to pull her out of school.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
That's thing number one. The thing number two, I would
file suit, just like this family did.

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Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
Didn't do what at the beginning because Ross was here
and now our two PM listeners can get a little
sense of that. So if you don't follow Danielle Drensky,
Aurora City councilwoman, on Twitter, you may not be up
to speed with the very serious accusations that certain properties
in Aurora have been taken over by a Venezuelan gang.

(01:09:25):
And so if you're not on Twitter following her, you're
missing a lot. But you can listen to her right
now as she.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Comes on the show. Danielle, it's good to talk to
you again.

Speaker 7 (01:09:34):
Hey, Manny, things for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
So I want to first of all, we're going to
talk about what is going on in Aurora. And you
know your position on this on Twitter.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
You have been talking about this for about a week
and a half now, I mean maybe longer than I
just missed earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
But what is going on from your perspective in Aurora
right now?

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
From my in Aurora, you know the trend di Aga
known as the TDA Gang from Venezuela. They're here. They're here,
They're They're in the Denver metro area. There was that
Jewelry Heights that was just linked to them. I believe
last week. There's a lot coming out. There are federal reports,

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Homeland Security have they issued warnings about this gang and
they are here. And the bottom line is, you know
Mayor Mike Johnson over in Denver, he issued a statement
that he's watching, watching the Big Gang, whatever he's watching,
and in Aurora it's really being down played the city

(01:10:41):
is admitting the gang's presence but not telling the whole
truth to the people of Aurora.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
So who are you talking about specifically that is not
telling the whole truth. Well, my guess is it's.

Speaker 7 (01:10:54):
At the direction of the city manager, Jason Batcheler. I mean,
that's my best guest.

Speaker 9 (01:10:59):
Ny.

Speaker 7 (01:11:00):
Also, the chief office of the Aora Police Department is
grossly downplaying this. And I know you talked to many
Aurora officers, so I'm sure you can you know through
the same things that I'm saying. But the rink and
file of the Aurora Police Department, they're talking, and they
want to talk and they want to tell the truth.
I've had some reach out to me. One reached out
to me over this past weekend and he has started

(01:11:23):
therapy over what he has seen and what he is
dealing with firsthand with this PDA gang.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
And so they're being gaslet these officers.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
They're basically being told, no, no, it's not a gang problem,
and yet they're fighting a gang problem at the street level.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Where are we talking about now?

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
I know that one Aurora apartment complex has been condemned,
and they say, essentially, if this is a slow lord situation,
he's not fixing anything. But the actual landlord said, look,
nobody will go there because it's being run by gangs
and I can't get them out. And so what is
your what do you know about that situation?

Speaker 7 (01:12:01):
Well, that's correct. It will be condemned tomorrow morning. The
abatement notices went out last week, and listen, it was
like five different law enforcement agencies that went to this
complex to put the notices of abatement on each store.
You don't respond with five different law enforcement aps, right

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and code enforcement just because there's code violations. You know
this property owner and I've been in contact with him
directly myself now and last year for twenty twenty three,
the City of Aurora, the the Building department signed off
on all three building inspections, one in January, one in April,
and one in November of twenty twenty three. I've been

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told by some folks in the city, oh, that was
a mistake. That was a mistake, and because of that mistake,
that employee no longer works here anymore. What the property
owner has a sort of a tip that he boils
all of his building inspections. Last year one of his
employees was beaten very badly and hospitalized November of last year.

(01:13:10):
Uh and then started being threatened and his family threatened
by the TVA gang members. And slowly but surely the
staff stopped showing up they were being threatened. They were
I think the final, the final hurrah, if you will.
With this past June, whichard what take Pigan was talking

(01:13:31):
about this morning on Twitter, there was an actual swat standoff.
Homeland Security was notified. I mean, it was a full
blown shootout with this TDA gang.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
And how is that not in the media?

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
Is this like a I mean in your view, and
I'm just gonna ask you to spitball here, why is
this not being covered or why why are they you know,
why why is the media that should be covering this
stuff just sort of swallowing what's coming from the the
of Aurora on this and not asking any follow up questions.

Speaker 7 (01:14:05):
Yeah, I mean, I think from the perspective of government
and elected officials other than myself, I think the perspective is,
don't scare the public. We don't want to put anything
out there that'll scare people, that'll worry people.

Speaker 9 (01:14:17):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:14:17):
But but then two Somedays, three Sundays ago, now you know,
you could be walking out of target with your your
children and enter into four thousand Venezuelans and various other
folks shooting guns off in the air, peeing, defecating, throwing up,

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fight all kinds of stuff, all kinds of stuff. And
this is happening because the media is not putting out
the truth to the public. And I understand not wanting
to alarm people and not wanting to scare people, and
not wanting to paint a black eye on Aurora. But
you know what you're taught as a child, as a
young child, you don't tell a lie.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
And and that's what's happening right now.

Speaker 7 (01:15:03):
Absolutely, it has been grossly downslayed.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Mandy. So, as a city council member, what are your options?

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
I know you've never shied away from any kind of
you know, pushback on the city because I know you
love the city.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
But what are you going to do?

Speaker 7 (01:15:17):
Well, I'm gonna keep speaking out. I had some national
media outlets reach out to me today. I'm going to
continue working uh with with hey seuss Uh. He is
a very prominent leader in the Venezuelan community, and he
is speaking out. He is you know, he is getting
it out through all of the Hispanic newspapers and news

(01:15:37):
channels till I've done numerous interviews with Telemundo. You know,
We're just going to keep working around nine News and
we're going to get the truth out. We're going to
continue to get the truth out. I'm not the only
one speaking out about this on council. I think I'm
just the loudest one, but I'm not the only one,
and we are going to continue to speak about it

(01:15:58):
until until something is done. And let me tell you
this Nome Street property, this was not the first property
that the gangs took over in Aurora.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
I mean there there are so there.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
There are other properties. There are other properties that are
being run by Venezuelan gangs.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
That's the quick question.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
Last question from our text line. Aurora police say this
is not the case. Why won't they corroborate her claims?

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
Well, because it's the leadership level. Again, if you talk
to rank and file, they will and they are. But
any any rank and file, any officer that speaks out
on their own, speaks to the media and is identified,
they'll be terminated immediately at the chief's office level. It's
no secret that I've had several battles with police chiefs
in Aurora, and it's for very reasons like this. I

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don't know, you know, if Jason Batcheler is directing this again,
I don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes
between the chief's office and Jason Batchler. But it's two
different things here. The chief's office is not corroborating the stories.
If you talk to link and file in the Aora
Police Department, they will tell you horrifying stories.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Danielle Drinsky, Aurora City council member, speaking out on the
influence and the sort of takeover in some areas of
Aurora of Venezuelan gangs.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
Daniel I'm gonna keep following this. I'm gonna get John
Fabricatory on the show as well. I told him I
would wait until after Labor Day because that's when the
election really heats up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
We'll get him on to talk about this as well.
I appreciate you making time.

Speaker 7 (01:17:26):
For me today, wonderful, Thanks so much. Good to talk
to me.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Good to talk to you too. That is Danielle Jorinsky.
We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
A Rod made a super cool sizzle reel about it.
It is on the blog today and if you look
at the part of the reel where I am walking
to the mound and it looks like I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
I was talking to myself, saying, don't embarrass yourself, don't
embarrass yourself, don't embarrass yourself, over and over and over again.
And you can totally see that that's what I'm saying,
by the way, So I'm very pleased I did not
embarrass myself. I didn't bounce it to the glove a
little low and outside.

Speaker 13 (01:17:58):
For a strike than what two of your three warm
up pitches were impressive. There was one of those little
questionable yes, but I went dirt scoopid, so not bad.
It's it's a lot harder than I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
I gotta say. I think I think Dinger was a
little closer than I anticipated. The catcher to beat me too.
But what am I gonna say, Dinger back back up,
a better chance to embarrass myself, like forty to fifty feet,
that's I'm better, Because I'm not better, So I just
shut up and threw it to a right in front
of me, and I've been like, here's the ball.

Speaker 8 (01:18:28):
You gotta get round of applause from the core is
faithful too, well from that Braves.

Speaker 14 (01:18:31):
Fans even them respected it, like, hey, not bad. There
you go quite fitty, Yeah, thank you, that's all I
was like. More Judge w Bush left fitty sent right.
So that video is on the blog at mandy'sblog dot
com today. Can we just have a minute to talk
about the Olympics just a second. I did not watch
the closing ceremonies yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
I would have been too sad that it was over
because I have watched more Olympic coverage this summer Games
that I've watched in years.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
We watched it every night, I watched it during the day.
I loved it. What what is happening right now with
the bronze medal in the balance beam? Cop it was
a balance beam?

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Oh it was floor competition is beyond absurd. So Jordan Chiles,
the American, is at the end of her rotation, She's
given a score. Immediately the coach says, wait a minute,
that difficulty is too low. And there's a thing that
you can do at a gymnastics meet called filing an inquiry,
and it basically says, to the judges, check your math, like,

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explain to us why this particular trick was scored a
certain way or whatever, and it just makes sure that
everything is being scored that can be scored less subjectively,
like did you do this trick? This trick is worth
this amount and difficulty. And there's a rule you have
to have that challenge in one minute after the posting
of the score. So they challenge and they make a

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correction to Jordan's score and it puts her into third
place and on the metal stand for bronze.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Okay, so like a few days later, because the Romanian who.

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
Got knocked off the podium, she then files her own
inquiry and then the Olympic committee comes back and says, oh, sorry,
we were wrong. Jordan's coach filed the grievance four seconds
too late, so we're taking back her bronze medal. And
then the US Olympic Committee is like, nh uh, we
have time spamped video evidence that prove she asked not once,
but twice in the first minute after the score was

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posted for an inquiry.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
So this is still all up in the air. But
here's this Romanian gymnast and Jordan Chiles who are like,
did I win a bronze? Did I not win a bronze?

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
This is such a failure of the judges. It is
unbelievable because.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
The issue came when they took one of the elements
of Jordan's floor routine and scored it lower than it
was supposed to be scored for difficulty.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
So all of these things go into the overall score.
Just an absolute mess, absolute mess. But I am and
I want to talk talk about this at a later date.
But there's a I have a story today, like what
Olympic sports you could do without? There was only one
that really bored me, and I didn't understand. I was
like and the breakdancing did not live up to my expectations.

(01:21:13):
I'm gonna be perfectly honest. I mean, there's now a
woman in Australia who's famous for being horrible. She's a
William Hung of the of the Games here and now
we're not supposed to criticize her because that is sexist.
So now a woman can do a horrible job at something.
And if you haven't seen the Australian breakdancer, trust me,

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it'll brighten your day.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
Just go google it. You really want to see the
whole routine.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
Now she's horrible, we're not allowed to criticize, Okay, whatever,
so all you people who say mean things about my show, Sorry,
I'm a woman, you can't criticize me.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
When we get back, I'll be joined.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
By another woman, a woman that has the best posture
and all your fitness and health information and inspiration. Yes,
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because I was with you when someone at Chuck's sixtieth

(01:22:13):
birthday party walked up and said it was your book
that put me on the path to better health.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
You were the reason.

Speaker 10 (01:22:18):
And I can't tell you what a feeling that is.
Quite honestly, you know, you put something out there and
you don't know if anybody listens, reads, cares. Is like whatever, Lady,
who cares what you have to say? So, yeah, when
somebody personally comes up to me and says that it is, yeah,
it's very humbly, honestly.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
It's very great.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
It's got to be very gratifying to say I have
someone say I took control of my health because of you.
And I always recommend to people who are sort of
struggling to take that first step. Is Michelle's book is fantastic,
and Michelle's been instrumental in my journey, my fitness journey
to better health.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
And so what are we talking about today, Michelle? I
always used fall to like reset, you know, well, kids are.

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
Back in school, and even if you don't have kids,
you're still the pace of life changes when kids are
in school, Traffic changes, everything kind of changes, and so
why not take advantage of this to sort of get
back on track.

Speaker 10 (01:23:13):
Well, everything does change. It's also a National Wellness Month,
so it just seemed like I should come on and
talk about wellness. But yeah, even just people's pace of
life in general. With you and I were talking about
like the constant pace of travel that I've had this summer,
and guests and all the things. And it's really hard
when you're out of your structure to maintain the habits

(01:23:34):
that keep you feeling good. And when you recognize that
that's going to come to at least a slow down
or rights, they're going to start to shift and maybe
now I'm going to gear up for a really busy work,
you know, section of the year. It is a mindset shift.
It's just a nice reset reset to take a pause,
reflect on all the great things, maybe give a little

(01:23:56):
bit of grace for a little too much eating out,
not enough working out, but doing it because you're getting
joy and fulfilled in all the other ways. Also recognizing
that at some point I got to put the brakes
on that and right back to doing the things that
make me feel good and make me function.

Speaker 5 (01:24:14):
Well, you're gonna love this. The irony of what I'm
about to tell you will not be lost on you.
So I have a friend, she lives in another city.
She's been sort of struggling trying to get started with
her weight, and you know what I've been coaching her
on is doing away with all or nothing thinking. There
are things that we've talked about with Michelle in the
past that are really if you just let them into

(01:24:34):
your brain and you let them into your life, they're
the easiest ways to start. And I want to start
with that because we are seven months away from New
Year's where we all set intentions and resolutions and everything else,
and maybe last year you can't even remember what your
intentions were at this point, but what a great way

(01:24:55):
to sort of reassess where you are by saying, look,
I'm going to change one single thing, one single thing.
For me, ditching all or nothing thinking has been critical
for me personally because before it would be like, oh,
I'm eating healthy, I'm eating healthy, I'm eating healthy. Oh
I had this, Well, it's all out the window. Now
I should just throw it all to the wind. And

(01:25:15):
that It's an easy way to sort of throw yourself
back two steps when you've made one step.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
Forward in your view, though, because this is what you
do all day every day.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
You've wtten a great book about it, things like that,
what do you think if you could say two people
make this one mindset shift to get yourself started.

Speaker 10 (01:25:32):
What is that? Absolutely? I would say it's the all
or nothing that was in my own journey as well.
And that's because all or nothing mode is our default, right,
It's a human default, and yet it almost never gets
anybody where they want to go for the long run, right.
And it wasn't until I ditched the all or nothing
mindset that I actually made significant progress in my own journey.

(01:25:56):
And yet I always say the mind is the hardest
thing to change. But unlessen until you change it, nothing
else changes. There's always a reason that it's too hard.
I'll wait until right well after the reunion you have,
after this vacation to Europe, after this big birthday party
that I'm going to, after this weekend wedding that I'm

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going to, after Labor Day or Labor Day, Yeah, after Halloween,
after Thanksgiving, Christmas, after.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
That, and then here we are New Year's and you're
fatter than you were before and you feel awful.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
So when we're talking about that specifically, and this is
something that seems so simple, but to your point about
us being hardwired, I just read a fascinating article. There
wasn't even about any of the stuff we're talking about,
but it applies one hundred percent. And that is that
when we feel anxious and stressed and all or nothing
thinking only leads to anxiety and stress because you failed

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at something again and then you beat yourself up and
all that stuff. But when we feel anxiety or stress,
our default position that our brain goes to is protect yourself.
And the devil you know is always better than the
devil you don't. So recognizing that that all of these
things where you're sort of beating yourself up for not
living up to your diet every single moment. Oh, I
ate chips at work today. You know what, you ate

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chips at work today, You're not going to die from it.
If you tomorrow you get up and you start over
and say, you know what, today's a new day. But
that shift, it's like your brain doesn't want you to
make that shift because it's protecting yourself.

Speaker 10 (01:27:22):
Well, and a lot of it has to go to
the perfectionist mentality. Right, I have to do all perfectly
or I won't see the result. And if I don't
see the result, then what's the point, right? And so
another big piece of the mindset shift that I think
is helpful is to let go of the outcome and
just recognize that everything that I do that is good

(01:27:45):
for a human, to help a human be healthy, happy, nurtured,
and nourished, is good. Whether I see the outcome or not,
it's still good and it's probably going to benefit me
at some point. We often get very fixated on the outcome,
which is its natural right. I do too right, And
yet I know that if I only focus on an

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outcome and I don't see it when I think I
should see it, right, I don't see it because I'm
doing all the things well, there's a good chance you're
not doing all the things.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
And that's what I was going to kind of interject here,
because that almost feels like in some ways for some people,
that becomes an excuse mechanism. It becomes an excuse to say,
you know, oh, I'm not I haven't lost ten pounds
in a week and a half, so therefore I'm doing
everything right and I'm not getting the outcome, so obviously
it doesn't work right.

Speaker 10 (01:28:33):
Yes, I've actually had people say, well, it didn't work
for me, And when I elaborate or try to have
them elaborate on what that means, it means that they
didn't see the result they thought they should see, right,
And usually it's a number of things. It's maybe that
outcome that you were intending to strive for wasn't realistic,
or there are things that you actually also needed to

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do that you didn't know you needed to do, or
you just needed to keep on doing these things right
and you would actually see them. But we do have,
you know, such a I don't know, this instant gratification
mentality and this desire for the instant outcome with little
to no effort, which now we can have I can't

(01:29:14):
tell you how many people have come to me so
frustrated that they're doing it the right quote unquote right way,
and they have friends who are doing it the other way.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
And that's the they We're talking about weight loss drugs
and and those are still viewed by many people as cheating.
I think that they are penny wise and pound foolish
in the grand scheme of things. I think long term,
people are going some people are going to really regret
that choice.

Speaker 10 (01:29:41):
I you know, I hope not, but I won't be
surprised if they do. I think back to when Finn Fenn,
Oh yeah, gonna save everybody right now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
They gave us a speed.

Speaker 13 (01:29:51):
That's what it was.

Speaker 10 (01:29:52):
I'm never going to have an obesity problem ever again because.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
Of fen Fenn.

Speaker 10 (01:29:55):
Oh No, Actually, people are.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
Dying of heart attacks. I probably should have checked that
out before we did anything else.

Speaker 10 (01:30:00):
Yeah, And so you know, it's the same, like with
anything else, if you are using something whatever that is.
I mean, I do supplements, I do probiotics, I do collagen.
I'm a big fan of peptides. I'm a big fan
of lots of things that help your body function optimally
that you can't get from just food and nutrition. I'm sorry,

(01:30:21):
food and exercise, but it's not in lieu of proper
nutrition and exercise. It is to support proper nutrition and
exercise and sleep and stress management and all the things.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
I was watching an interview with Peter Attia, a longevity expert,
and somebody else I don't even.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Remember who else was on the thing, and they were asking.

Speaker 5 (01:30:40):
The interviewer was asking about supplements, and he said, look,
I consider and talk about supplements all day long, but
if you're not exercising and eating good food, the supplements
don't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
So we've got to make sure that people are doing those.

Speaker 5 (01:30:51):
Basic things before we talk about what supplements are going
to help you reach your goals. If you're not doing
the underlying stuff, nothing is no supplement is going to
help you reach your goals, right.

Speaker 10 (01:31:00):
And I think that is just again people's desire to
have this one really easy, quick fix. Just tell me
what to do and I will have all of the
magical outcomes that I want.

Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
Well, you know, Michelle has a program called the U
University and it is really really, really good. And right now,
what are you doing? You got a special for our listeners.
What is happening there tell me about that.

Speaker 10 (01:31:20):
Yeah, So since August it's National Wellness Month, I want
to celebrate that and help everybody be the healthiest, happiest
versions of themselves. And so it's all of the things
that I teach and talk If you have me come
into your corporation, do corporate wellness trainings. These are all
the topics that I teach and talk on. I created
an online version of that called U Revolution University, and

(01:31:42):
it's fifty percent off for your full tuition package, which
I'm just going to tell you is like the best
deal you will ever find in the whole wide world if.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
You're looking for the right motivation. Though it's it really is.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
I mean Michelle's I'd say it all the time, and
I'm not kidding. I hear Michelle's voice in my head
on a regular basis.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
It's going to be hard now or it's going to
be hard later.

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
That's the one that gets me up when I don't
feel like working out and I'm feeling lazy and I
think to myself, it's going to be hard now or
it's going to be hard later, And I always choose
hard now because hard later is going to be worse.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
PFF.

Speaker 5 (01:32:11):
Is your BFF. That is protein, fat, and fiber is
your best friend forever. That's in my head all the time,
just little I call them michelle isms, and they're very inspiring.
So if you're looking for something to kind of help
you get over the hump, like get the motivation, Motivation
is one of those things like people.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Like I know I need to do this, How do
I get motivated? How do they get motivated?

Speaker 10 (01:32:35):
I wish I had that answer, mat Ye, I would not,
you know, I wouldn't be here sitting with you if
I had the answer. Yes, motivation, you either have it
or you decide to create it. Right, what do you
want for your life? And you can sit here a
year from now and still be wondering how do I
get motivated? Or you can say, you know what, here's
one thing I can do differently today. I'm not drinking

(01:32:56):
enough water, so let me start with that. Let me
start with making sure I'm drinking water. I'm not getting
adequate movement in my day. Let me focus on that.
Let me make sure I'm moving my body as much
as I can, as hard as I can, as often
as I can. I'm not eating PFF every two to
four hours. Let me figure out what is the why
all this craze about PFF is your BFF? What is

(01:33:17):
that even about? Try it and then come back and
tell me what it's about. I promise you. You know,
these are just very simple things that I think because
they's sometimes so simple, people don't appreciate that they can
have a significant impact.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
Well, and Michelle's Elner is my guest, and I put
on the blog today a link to the U Revolution classes.
You can get on the promo code to use if
you want to get fifty percent off. But I want
to ask you about the gymnastics thing, because you guys
may not know Michelle was a competitive gymnast for a
long time, and you have feelings about this this Jordan

(01:33:54):
Chiles Romanian and I feel bad. I don't know the
Romanian gymnast's name, but surely she's just Romanian.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
Since don't feel bad, nut, since Satya Komenichi, have we
needed to know the name of a Romanian gymnast?

Speaker 10 (01:34:04):
Yeah, gosh, it's awful. You know, judges have one job, yes,
and it's a pretty big job, and you know you
have to get it right. And when somebody files an appeal,
and that is an acceptable part of the program, and
you make that decision, then we can't go back days later.

(01:34:25):
It's like watching Super Bowl film and saying, you know what,
that ref got it wrong, right, So we're going to
go back and pretend all the other things didn't happen.
We're gonna give the Super Bowl ring to that other team.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
And that is what they did because apparently there were
some viral video of the Romanian gymnast. She got dinged
for stepping out of bounds, but this video after the
Olympics showed she did not, and they went back and gave.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Her the point pack.

Speaker 5 (01:34:48):
So essentially they had they instituted instant well not so
instant replay with no rules changes of any sort, and
judges are making decisions that are stripping metals based on
things that they did not see properly at the event.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
No inquiry was filed that I know of. I mean,
I know they filed one.

Speaker 10 (01:35:04):
About the Jordan child thing, but this is crazy well,
and the really unfortunate part of all of this, of course,
is that it's coming down on the gymnasts, right. I know,
they're getting a lot of like, well, you just need
to give your metal back and you need to be
a good sport. It quit being a spoiled sport. You
know what, it's the judges. The judges are the ones
who should be getting I don't know why, why can't
we just give a bronze medal to everybody. Let's just

(01:35:25):
make it simple. Yeah, you know we screwed up here.
Let's just fix it this way exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
But they didn't do that. They did not do that
at all.

Speaker 11 (01:35:33):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
Michelle, it's a joy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:34):
To see you as well, and you guys should sign
up for her coursework because I'm telling you it. It
has been a huge, huge part of my own personal
mindset shift and everything else has to start with the
mindset shift. You can't force yourself into you. Actually you can,
I've done it a million times. You can force yourself
to do any diet in the world. But if your

(01:35:55):
mindset shift is not this is I'm never gonna get
this big again. I'm gonna change my habits, I'm gonna
eat better, I'm gonna do the right things. Then you're
gonna gain it all back. And I know this because
I've done this like a billion times.

Speaker 10 (01:36:06):
And Mandy, I also always want to stress it's not
just about weight and weight loss is this is about
your health. So even if you are of a healthy
weight but you have anxiety about whatever it is, again,
that's a huge mindset thing.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:36:22):
Even if you're a healthy weight, guess what, You're still
a human who would like to be strong and fit,
So exercise is probably still something you need to do.
So it isn't just about weight loss, and you know,
looking a certain way, it's about your health, your quality
of life, if you want to be a customer of
Big Pharma for the rest of your life, or if
you'd like to try to prevent some of those things.

Speaker 5 (01:36:44):
And let's be real, there's now more and more studies
out that show that being overweight in a constant state
of inflammation because of the standard American diet, which is short,
I mean they shortened it to sad for a reason.
The standard American diet is giving a Alzheimer's, it's giving
us dementia, it's giving us heart disease and strokes and

(01:37:05):
heart attack. Don't be a part of that statistic. Be
a part of the statistic. Amounts back to sign up
for the U Revolution. I put the link on the
blog today fifty percent off. There's a promo code on
the blog today. Use that joy to see you, my friend.
I know you don't usually stay for out.

Speaker 8 (01:37:19):
Of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
She's like, yeah, I'm not not fan. No, she's done.

Speaker 10 (01:37:23):
I know to quit when on my head.

Speaker 5 (01:37:26):
And now Riot Edwards has joined us because Koe Sports
is right.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
It's right.

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
You guys are in the batterbox right now. You're teed
up and ready to go. When you just use as
many sports metaphors as I can in this handoff.

Speaker 11 (01:37:38):
There's three more references she made just a moment ago
talking about it's going back and it's like taking away
is stripping a metal.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
I mean, that was such a great analogy. It is
a great analogy, and what's happening with that is just.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Beyond insane, so gross and emotionally cruel to these Gym's
just emotionally cruel. So yesterday good news for the Broncos,
at least in the terms of a preseason game.

Speaker 7 (01:38:00):
We believe.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
You mean, we believe we believe. Yeah, I believe he
Rod is on the bolieve of bandwagon already, bless bonus.
Let me just ask this question of you, and I
know you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
Are going to talk about everything, but does this increase
his chances of being a starter, or do we see
three or four games before b Nicks gets a sniff.
What do you think how influential was his play yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
I think it matters, right.

Speaker 11 (01:38:30):
Most coaches tend to view the practices like getting ready
for the exam, if you will, right, So this was
the exam.

Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
He went out there and he looked good and he
was able to operate.

Speaker 11 (01:38:39):
The offense was a perfect No, but it was certainly
translating from what we saw out on the practice field,
and I think that's what they want to do. They
want to see clean mechanics. They want to see a
guy that's out there looking confident. And he did all
those things, and so I would say, yes, this is
going to help him. He gets to be the starter
of this week. He's going to start the game on Sunday,
and if he comes out of that with a similar performance,

(01:39:01):
if not better, because he's a guy that tends to
learn from his mistakes, yep, then I think he's going
to be named the starter soon.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
His next week, I think I think he looks really good.

Speaker 5 (01:39:08):
I think there was a couple passes that would probably
be picked off in the regular season.

Speaker 11 (01:39:12):
Why you know, no guts, no glory, Ryan, right, I mean,
but again it's like, also he had a pass go
through the hands of his receiver in the salon.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
Yeah, a couple of the bounced off the.

Speaker 9 (01:39:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:39:24):
Yeah, that passed to Reynolds in the end zone. He
just rides through his hands if he connects on that.
So it's like the game is that close, right, we
always say, quote unquote game of inches. I mean it
is that way as far as turnovers and touchdowns too
much like pole vaulting game of inches.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
And now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio of its guide, the World.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
Of the Day.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
You can tell Ryan is.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Back in studio, doesn't control himself anymore being out.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
A training camp. I know how loud it is from
there to hear like how I boost? Oh yeah, well
there you go. Okay, when is our dad joke of
the day? Please?

Speaker 8 (01:39:58):
I've offered my elderly neighbor twenty dollars to try out
her stare lift.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
I think she's gonna take me up on it. Oh yeah,
what is our word of the day? Please?

Speaker 8 (01:40:10):
Better they're grown the better the joke word of the
days and noun no not the dessert cobbler.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Mandy guy, oh, guy who makes shoes? Jeopardy? What do
you fix the shoes? Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:40:24):
I got.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
One.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
I just love how you like chimed it you like no,
you don't even know.

Speaker 5 (01:40:30):
When I'm sitting at home watching Jeopardy by myself, I say, mam.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
Man, and then I'm like, who am I saying that to?
Can they hear me?

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
They cannot. Do you do like at the dinner table
or something, You're like, man, oh no. But someone will
ask me a question and I will answer in the
form of a question.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
It's like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
I just played Jeopardy too much?

Speaker 7 (01:40:48):
What is our oh?

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
Today's trivia question? This is easy? What spice is used
to flavor snicker doodle cookies?

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Nutmeg?

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
No? Cinnamon? Cinnamon? You're saying you don't use nut mag
no for the cookies?

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
Whimsical name. Its origins are unclear, though some believe it
comes from the German word connected noodland, which translates to
sail noodles.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
Yeah, schneckton noodland.

Speaker 11 (01:41:10):
Yeah, you know I should the obvious the obvious one? Yeah,
yell clip, you know all right?

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
What is our Jeopardy category the sporting life.

Speaker 8 (01:41:19):
Okay, this sport was introduced in the six eighty eight
BC Olympics. The modern sport has its origins in bare
knuckle contest Ryan Ran.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
What is boxing?

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
That is correct?

Speaker 8 (01:41:33):
There you go, usc not from California, but in this
state has a gamecock mascot is South Carolina, that is correct?

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Flund await for the rest of it.

Speaker 8 (01:41:44):
This NBA team got its name when it was based
in San Diego. There was so much yah. Yeah, acting
acting in the harbor? Mandy, what is the who are
the Clippers?

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
Correct?

Speaker 7 (01:41:57):
What is who are?

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
I don't know, but it's two one.

Speaker 8 (01:42:01):
The name of this triple crown winner also means a
traffic ticket.

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Trying to think of my triple crown winners? Yeah, Mandy,
who is citation correct? Nice? Finally, Indians developed a game
to train for war? What is lacrosse?

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
Is?

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
Weirdly? I was from across the entire time. Yep, I
just felt good about lacrosse. It's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
No, you're right on that one.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
I was like, I mean I would have gotten it eventually,
but happy eventually. That's fantastic. Anyway, So what do you
guys have coming up? On k Oh Boy, so much fun.

Speaker 11 (01:42:39):
Yes, we're gonna talk a little bit about bow Well,
we have a even wrapping ford. We're gonna hear from
Bo in his exclusive interview with Dave Logan after the game.
And yeah, I mean all sorts of really cool stuff,
some breakdown, some great sound Mondays after games one of
my favorite days of the week because we get to
just play with sound for three hours.

Speaker 5 (01:42:56):
Alrighty playing with sound coming up next while you play
with Ryan big Al and Dave Logan.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
That's all coming up right after this. Keep it on,
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