08-19-25 FULL SHOW - A Bit On Christian Homeschooling, Plus Michelle Tafoya!

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But we have some sports on our show today sort

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of ish okay, not at all, but we have someone
sports adjacent on.

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The show today.

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Huh.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
How about that?

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Sports adjacent just like this show, and I'll tell you
about it. Let's go to the blog, shall we. By
the way, yesterday I had a conversation with my friend Steve,
who is the man who created the One, the Only
Randy Cromwell. And if you don't know the Randy Cromwell story,
I'll recapp it briefly here because it's really good. Steve

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was a listener of mine in Southwest Florida and he
won a contest where he was going to get to
go to dinner with me. And he was very excited
about this, and he was doing yard work with his
brother Dale, and he kept saying, to day, I'm so
excited I get to meet Mandy Connall.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
This's going to be great. I'm gonna have dinner with
Mandy Connell.

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And at the end of the day, Dale turned around
and said, who the hell is Randy Cromwell And that's
where Randy Cromwell was born. And I told him that
someone had bought Randy Cromwell dot com and directed it
to my blog, and he was just as tickled as
I am. So you can go to mandy'sblog dot com
or you can go to Randy Cromwell dot com and
either way look for the headline.

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It says eight.

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Nineteen twenty five blog A bit on Christian homeschooling plus
Michelle Tafoya. Click on that and here are the headlines
you will find within Office.

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Today on the blog Christian Homeschooling was the og of homeschooling.

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Michelle Tafoya joins me.

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Colorado is suing the Trump had men again. If everything
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All right, tech two winner.

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I thought so too, Nance, I thought so too. Not
gonna lie felt like that was pretty good. It's a
barreling Tuesday with Randy Cromwell says this Texter, you are
absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Okay, coming up at two thirty.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
I'm super excited to have the chance to chat with
Michelle Tafoya because Michelle Tafoya is someone I have always liked.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
I have a weird I'm I'm gonna say something.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
This might be a really unpopular opinion, because I want
to be clear that there are women who work the
sidelines at football games that do an amaze job, extremely knowledgeable,
really good, bring a lot.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
To the table and do a great job.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
This is not a disparagement of all female sideline reporters,
but there is too high a percentage of women in
that role that were hired because they were hot. Now
what that percentage is? Thirty percent, you know, roughly. And
Michelle Tafoya, though she is attractive, is just good on

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the sidelines. And now, of course she has moved into
a completely different sphere. She's doing a lot more political commentary.
She's like a center right person, right center person, I guess.
And I'm excited to talk to her because she is
going to be at the Steamboat Institute's Freedom conference this
upcoming weekend. Again, they don't pay me to promote this,
Thank you, guys, They really don't. This is a problem

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that I have as a talk show host because if
I love something, I'm going to tell you about it.
I might not tell you about it as much as
I tell you about the advertisers who I are also
love but also pay me. But I'm going to tell
you about it. And that's why I love the Steamboat Conference.
So she's coming on at two thirty at one o'clock.
You know, one of the when I was a kid,
the only people who were homeschooled were people who were

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homeschooled for religious reach reasons, right, And I didn't know
anyone who was homeschooled. I went to Catholic school and
it just was very foreign. And now with the rise
of homeschooling overall and secular homeschooling being a big part
of that, a really big part of that, I think
that it's we're going to talk today with Kashia Davis.

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She's with the Christian Homeschooling Educators of Colorado and I
did call her the OG. Then I'm like, maybe they
don't want to be the original gangster of something, but
Christian homeschooling I think was the first kind of homeschooling, really,
So we're going to check in find out about the
movement here in Colorado, and really I want to know,
in her words, how it differs from what I'll call
secular homeschooling because I know a lot of people, I mean,

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and I know a lot of people who homeschool their kids.
And what's really ironic is many of them are former
public school teachers.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
I just find that super telling.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
But I know a lot of people who homeschool, but
a vast majority of them secular homeschool. I do have
some friends who I would say are more religious based homeschooling,
But I just want to find out the difference is
because I'm all about helping people understand the best educational
opportunities that are available for kids, because no two kids
are exactly the same, and a system where they are

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all treated the same I don't think is the most
effective way to do things now.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
So there's all kinds of options out there. That's really
really cool. Mandy.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Maybe you only got hired because you're hot. First of all,
thank you, thanks so much for that. You know, at
my age, I'll take any compliment I can get. No,
I'm just kidding. I'm working the radio. When I started
in radio, no one knew what.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
We look like.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
That's one of the reasons that drew me to the medium,
because I always had plausible deniability. People would hear my
it was always my voice. They hear my voice in
like a Walmart and they'd be like, oh my gosh,
are you that lady on the radio?

Speaker 4 (07:09):
And I would go no.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
People tell me I sound like her though, and they
were like, oh okay, sorry, and I could go about
my vswax.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Not now tell yet. Mandy. So excited for Michelle Tafoya.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
I got to say hello to her in Canton for
John Elways Hall of Fame Induction. Love love, love her work,
and I'm excited to talk to her. Mandy, why would
you want ugly people on TV? It's not that I
want ugly people, but I'm just gonna say this. Turn
on your ESPN channel. You are far more likely to
see a ratio of two ugly guys for every good

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looking guy.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Right.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
No, I'll flip that two good looking guys but one
ugly guy. There are no ugly women on ESPN. Now, granted,
I haven't watched ESPN in a long time. But are there, Ay, Rod,
do you watch the ESPN? Are there any ugly women
on ESPN?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
No?

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Are there any ugly men on ESPN? Oh, you're gonna
say yes, because I do know of some ugly men
on ESPN.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Name one.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
When you start talking about NFL specialists, there are some
ugly dudes in that class. I'm just saying. I'm not
naming names because that's mean.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
But the more, the more specialized, more expert level they have,
then you're getting out of the good looking sports guys.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Uh you know boxing, Hell, a.

Speaker 8 (08:25):
Lot of the former offensive linemen have glow ups and
they look damn good.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Talking about in the trenches.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah, yeah, well okay, professional athletes aside, Well yeah yeah.
But there's just they don't hire unattractive women in sports.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
They really don't.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
The last unattractive women to work in sports, and I'm
just because she was something was the fabulous sports babe
who was a radio lady out of Tampa. She was
out of Tampa huge and I mean that both literally
and figuratively. She had a huge show and she was
just a really really big woman. She was not attractive,

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but she was incredibly knowledgeable about sports. But again on radio,
she could look however you wanted her to look. But
they don't hire unattractive women. So if you are a
woman working in sports, you maybe darn did at sports,
but you are definitely attractive. So take that to the
bank and just believe that you are also really good
at sports too, because I don't know, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Make touchment on that.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Oh, thank you, Kasia, Thank you Aeron and I were
talking about how to pronounce Kaja Davis's name, So thank
you text anyway, And for the person who said I
was today years old when I found out what.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
OG stood for.

Speaker 9 (09:35):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
This is why we do a show, Okay, for.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Important stuff like that. Okay, so we got to talk
about some important stuff yesterday. Did anybody else see the
footage of yesterday's summit with the European leaders and Zelensky? Now, yesterday,
during the show, all of this was happening, so I
couldn't pay attention. And then right after the show, I
did a quick scroll of the news. I mean super

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quick because I had to go to Regen Revolution and
do some stuff. And while I was waiting there for
like two seconds, I did some scrolling and the coverage
was well, no ceasefire was agreed to, and I was like, well, dang.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Then I get home and I start watching video from
the summit.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
You guys, unless all of these other European leaders are
just the biggest liars in the world, and they.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Could be, I don't know. They all looked comfortable.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
And relaxed and happy to be there, except Emmanuel Macron.
He looked like somebody had put a ram up as
you know what, just you know, like.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Corn cob right.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
But everybody else is like laughing, they're smiling, they seem
to be enjoying themselves. It was a much different impression
than I got from reading the news media yesterday. I
woult have placed something for you, And I saw this
this morning and almost thought this has to be ai
because the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Root is the

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NATO Secretary General, right.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
This is what he had to say about the meeting.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
The conversation was a conversation among friends, among closed their lives,
who respect each other, who like each other, will know
each other very well, discussing how we can bring this
terrible war to an ends.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
And this is a goal we.

Speaker 7 (11:21):
All have in common. And without President Trump, this deadlock
with put him would not have been bloken. He was
the only one who could do this.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Starting in February, humhm, sounds so weird from the Secretary
General of NATO. If you listen to the talk on
the left in this country about the way President Trump
handles NATO, they will tell you that he has destroyed,
single handedly destroyed NATO. I saw the headline for an

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article that I didn't even click on because it just
seems so stupid, and it was the.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
World after NATO. Well, since NATO's dissolving, NATO's going.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Away, I would argue that NATO is stronger than ever,
and NATO is stronger than ever because NATO nations are
now meeting their defense requirements, and if they're not meeting
them yet, they're on their way.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Which means that instead of the United States.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Of America having to provide all of the military hardware,
most of the soldiers, and everything else in any kind
of NATO action, we now have multiple nations that will
be able to contribute in a real way. That to
me sounds like a much stronger NATO. You know, if
this works, and I have no idea, and I have

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to give it to the Trump administration, and I have
to give it to President Trump. He is trying to
manage expectations better than he ever has ever before. When
it comes to this negotiation, he says things like, you
know what, it may work out, it may not. He's
not running out there saying it's a done deal.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
It's an une deal. He learned not to trust Putin.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
But the reality is, if this works, if this leads
to any sort of lasting peace between Ukraine and Russia,
holy cow, it's it's going to be undeniable that this
guy should just be a negotiator and chief for any

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world conflict.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Like, hey, you know what you guys are, you're about
to go at it.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
We'll just have Trump come in and talk to you
about it, because that's that would be incredibly impressive.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
But we're not there yet.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
We're a long way off, as a matter of fact,
because I don't trust Vladimir Putin. Zelensky, by the way,
has pretty much had his wings clipped in a variety
of ways, the least are not. The least of which
is some new polling data from Gallop out of Ukraine.
So back in twenty twenty two, they asked Ukrainians. These
are This is a poll of Ukrainian people. They said, uh,

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which of the following statements about the war with Russia
comes closest to your personal views?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
And they have three options.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Ukraine should continue fighting until it wins the war. That's
how option number one.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Ukraine should seek to negotiate an ending to the war
as soon as possible. That's option number two. Don't know.
Refused is option number three.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
And by the way, when you're asked to participate in
a poll, I would expect you to have an opinion.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
I just crazy. I know it's crazy, but you know anyway,
So how did that work out?

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Back in twenty twenty two, they asked that question and
about seventy four percent of Ukrainians said Ukraine should continue
fighting until it wins the war. Okay, that's kind of
a big deal, right, I mean, that's actually a really
big deal.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
So where is that now?

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Where did that seventy two percent end up? In twenty
twenty five, it is down to twenty four percent. Back
in twenty twenty two, just about twenty one percent of
Ukrainians said we need to seek to negotiate and ending
to the war as soon as possible that twenty one
percent is up to sixteen nine percent. So now you've

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got sixty nine percent to twenty four percent, and you've
still got you know, seven percent stumbling around having no
idea what to do. But that is not something that
a president can look away from, you know, if you
want to get re elected, if you want to be
remembered as a wartime president who also managed to negotiate
peace on acceptable terms, probably you know they're not going

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to be in love with the terms.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
They're not getting crimea BAC, it's just not going to happen.
So you know, this is going to be really tough
for Zelensky.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
But I think it's heartening that they managed to get
the gang everybody in Europe, and not everybody, but a
lot of people in Europe in the room and have
a real conversation about what security guarantees look like without
membership to NATO, which is what's going to have to happen.
That actually, the details of that I would like to
know more about, because, in the.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
One hand, if it's kind of the we signed on
too with.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
NATO years and years ago that ended up with us
doing all the heavy lifting for their defense, I'm not
down with that.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
I don't want any more of those deals.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
I want more deals like the deal we're getting with
NATO now, where all of the NATO nations actually meet
their requirements and are able to provide not only for
their own defense but also for the other nations. Yeah,
I mean, that's what I want. This is one of
the things I love about Trump's foreign policy. It's very
quid pro quo. And I realize that's tacky to say,

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but every bit of foreign policy since the beginning of
time has been quid pro quo. It has been you
give me something, I give you something, but we're supposed to,
you know, ignore that.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
That's what it is. Trump is brazen about it. Trump
is what are we getting out of this deal? Really?
What are we really getting out of this deal? And
that is something that I gotta tell you.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
I absolutely love it. Oh this Texter, Andy, you know
to have it appended. You are feed magat Blink and
you love it.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
This is a person who just started listening to the
show or is choosing to ignore everything that's happened before now.
And either way, I can't help you. Mostly I don't care, Mandy.
That's pretty sad if you think Trump should be that guy?
Which guy?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Which guy? Which guy? I don't know which guy you're
talking about, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
The European leaders are pissed at Trump, Well, you obviously
didn't see the same video that I saw. Georgia Maloney
looks like she straight up has a crush on Donald Trump.
The only one that looked remotely uncomfortable was Emmanuel Macron.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
He was the only dude up there that wasn't like relaxed.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Congenial seemed to be enjoying the spotlight for a moment
standing there at the White House.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
I mean, it was very impressive.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
And if you want to look at that and say, oh,
they're all mad at him, okay, whatever, it's fine.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Who you're gonna believe the left wing breath of your
own lion eyes?

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Texter, Come on, come on, Mandy. Did the Rarer Minerals
deal ever go through? I don't know the answer to
that question, and it might have, although I think there
would have been more hullabaloo about it. But something is
on paper somewhere, I don't know, scratched out with a

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crayon or a sharpie.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
I have no idea Mandy, at least Trump didn't go
crazy again like you did in February the last time
they spoke. Guys, it's a different environment and he knows
it and now he Well, let me just put it
to you this way. The fact that Zelensky showed up
in a suit yesterday showed you exactly who won in
that kerfuffle in the White House. It had its intended effect.

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The Trump's summit thing is that some of you look
like you're rooting for failure. And here's the thing I'm
gonna be on it. I don't care that much about
Ukraine and Russia.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I didn't care that much about them before I got
all fired up because you're.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Just wrong that Vladimir Putin rolled into Ukraine. But ultimately,
like I don't have a dog in that fight. I
feel terrible for the people that are stuck there. Somebody
just sent in a text and said, I have a
relative visiting her family in Russia. She said, it's like
after World War Two. All the men are walking around
injured and without limbs. Like why, I wouldn't wish that
on anybody. But it's funny to me when I see

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people say things like this. Mandy, Putin gets CRIMEA and
no NATO membership for Ukraine, everything he wanted from the
get go. Somehow, we are celebrating this as a victory
for Wolf's hang on, as a victory for Trump. Other
US allies are seeing this and reevaluating the importance of
a good relationship with US. Let's be real, you guys.

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First of all, we don't know what the deal looks like.
I've seen no leaks of any I mean nothing. I
have seen not peep, not at nothing, So we don't
know what the final deal is going to look like. Obviously,
Ukraine's not getting that Crimea. That was just never going
to happen because nobody in the world did anything about
it when it happened in the first place. It's been
over twelve years since that happened. Anyway, the best Ukraine

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can hope for is a return to their eastern borders,
and that's going to be a miracle. But the reality
is is that they're just putting more and more blood
and treasure into a losing cause. Because I'm not sure
that Russia can move any further into Ukraine. I don't
think that Ukraine can do a lot more to push
Russia back they're just at a stalemate. So what is

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the alternative other than negotiating and getting to a point
where the Ukrainians are going to have to agree to
the deal? Right, But when you have sixty nine percent
of Ukrainians saying negotiate this away, We're done, what options.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
Do you have?

Speaker 5 (20:55):
So we'll see how far they can get Putent to capitulate.
It's much harder to get good in information out of
Russia in terms of because you can go to the
internet and you can read Pravda online, that's the state
owned paper in Russia. And all you have to do
is is go to Pravda dot or are you I
think it's her? You pretty sure? And then you go

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up to the top and you translate it into English,
and so, uh, you can read what's going on, but
you can't get a real idea of what is happening. Right,
let me just read you from the coverage of the meeting.
I think no one will argue the main event of

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this week is the meeting between Putin and Trump and Alaska.
It is compared to the Yalta and Potsdam conferences of
the Second World War. Some, on the contrary, believe that
it will be formal routine without breakthroughs. Guessing is a
thankless task, but we will still guess a little. What
kind of paper will the final documents be printed on?
Stamped or toilet paper? This is not a joke because

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the outcome the meeting concerns us directly. So this was
written before. Can't get the dates on this right, But
you can't tell what the Russian people are thinking. They're
not getting polling data about what the Russian people are thinking.
What the Russian economy is not growing as quickly as
it used to, so you know, putin to a certain extent,

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I mean as much as a dictator can be, you know,
there with his back against the wall, kind of has
his back against the wall a little bit.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
But if he can claim any kind of victory, then
there you go. We'll see. But it's funny to me
that people are.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Rooting for failure, as if somehow anyone on the text
line is like, what do you have property on the
eastern border of Ukraine and you'd rather be in Ukraine
than Russia, because otherwise I don't understand why you would
want to wish for the continued slater of people on
both sides of this issue.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
It's a dumb war. I mean, it's a really really
dumb war.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
And wanting it to continue because you're hoping that people
that you have no real connection to are going to
be able to somehow miraculously be able to win.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
I don't get it. I really don't.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Even when the other team's in charge, like when Joe
Biden got elected, I'm like, you know what, I'm not
going to wish for Joe Biden to fail, because that
means the country fails. I want the United States of
America to succeed. And it's like, I understand the concept.
And I just had this conversation with my nephew. So
my nephew lives in Israel, he's in the IDF, and

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we had a chat the other day about why people
in the United States have taken the side of Hamas,
and he said, I do not understand how that's even possible,
because you know, Hamas live streamed all of the atrocities.
And I said to him, you know, for US, war
is a spectator sport. We're not intimately involved. Such a

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tiny fraction of our society is even attached to the
military in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
You know, back in World War.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Two, everyone was either related to or knew someone that
was in World War Two. Everybody was involved in that war.
Now we get to sit over here an armchair quarterback.
We watched stuff, the coverage on the news channels, are
on the internet, and we're all experts on what the
people who are actually fighting and living in that situation
should do. I genuinely believe there are very few good

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reasons for a war. Mostly those reasons would be to
liberate people who otherwise would be you know, destroyed, and
this war does.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Not mean that standard.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
I'm still not even sure. I mean, obviously you put
and told everybody Ukraine was Nazis. They're Nazis, they're Nazis,
and now they're not really Nazis. But it's time to
wrap this up. And if you're out there rooting for
failure because you don't want Donald Trump to have the win,
you're rooting for more people to die in a stupid
war that is just going to end up in a

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grudge match anyway. You're rooting for the continuation of something
that you're not going to go fight in, right, I mean,
now we're not doing.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
That, And I don't get that I really don't.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
A lot of you are texting the Common Spirit Health
text line at five sixty six, nine to zero.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
We don't want the war to continue.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
We want a leader with enough backbone to get Ukraine
into NATO.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Okay, let's talk about that for just a moment.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Back in the nineteen I think it was nineteen ninety,
we signed a treaty with Russia. The Soviet Union had
fallen apart, right, We signed a treaty with Russia, and
in that treaty we agreed that there would be no
westward expansion of NATO. And four years later, Bill Clinton
signs a document encouraging the eastward expansion of NATO. So

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four years later, we violated the treaty that Russia already signed.
And you know, I think Vladimir Putin's has comeback. I
think he would love to get the Soviet Union back together.
I think he would love to have that kind of
power that it once wielded. I think he would love
all of that. But none of that changes the fact
that we broke that treaty in the first place. And
in all honesty, remember how happy we were when the

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Soviets had missiles on our southern border in Cuba ninety
miles away.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Ukraine shares a massive border with Russia.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Russia, rightfully, I think, is saying we don't really want
NATO powers right on our border.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
They don't trust us any more than we trust them.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
You know, we have this view of our own moral superiority,
but they have the same view of their moral superiority.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
So they don't trust us. We don't trust them. They
don't want us on their western border, just like we.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Would not want them to take over Canada and have
them be on our northern border. I mean, you know,
so NATO membership is not necessary from what I'm looking
at right now, and there's no real details out, but
the reality is the security guarantees that are going to
be given by the EU, by the United States are

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going to be, in essence, the same sort of security
guarantees that they would get under Article five of being
a NATO member, But they're not going to get NATO membership.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
And that's just going to have to be okay.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
And this is one case where I totally understand why
Vladimir Putin feels the way he feels about that. I mean,
I still think the guy's a jerk in an a hole,
But I get it. I get where he's coming on
that one.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Mandy. The Trump administration is really trying hard.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
God bless them. I'm with you about the Russia Ukraine war.
I don't have a dog in the fight either, but
the poor people exactly, Mandy. This morning during the Fox
News rundown, they were interviewing someone. They were talking about
how Putin wants to some security promises. They also said
that Putin claim NATO the West was full of Nazis.
The interviewee said he wasn't sure that that should be

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taken seriously. It seems strange since at least American media
would have us believe that the right is full of
Nazis and that even Trump himself is a Nazi. I mean, you, guys,
is it any wonder that Vladimir Putin is able to
merely amplify the voices on the left to call anybody
they disagree with a Nazi and then use that to
tell the people in his country, Look, they even.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Know they're Nazis. They're proud of it. Look at how
naziing they're naziing is.

Speaker 6 (28:34):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I think people just don't.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Want to see the bad guy win even though if
it's if it's a lose lose war, and I agree,
I mean, I really agree.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
This is why I still want to work.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
On my master plan to change the tax code to
incentivize our oil and gas producers to produce oil and
gas at an incredibly high level in order to tank
the price of a barrel of oil and therefore destroy
Rush's entire economy, leading to an uprising where people demand
freedom and capitalism at a mortiverse economy. I mean, that's

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the kind of stuff I think about when I can't
go to sleep. I have to correct myself. So as
I was talking about the no expansion, in my mind,
I'm like, wait a minute, Nandy, you you read something
about this, and this is not right.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
And so I used the Google machine and I was.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Right in my mind about not being right about what
I said. There is no written agreement that promised no
NATO expansion. Where that comes from is Secretary of State
James Baker. In nineteen ninety when there were discussions about
German reunification, and James Baker famously used the phrase not

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one inch to the east in the context of a
unified Germany joining NATO. The treaty on the Final Settlement
with respect to Germany, which was signed by the two Germanys,
the Soviet Union, the United States, France, and the United Kingdom,
only contain commitments regarding the military status of the former
East Germany, not broader NATO enlargement, so there is really

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no reason never mind. Sorry, I looked this up like
a week and a half ago to the week I
was at home after my surgery.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I just looked this up.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Ugh, so upset with myself. I'm sorry about that. I
hope you accept my correction and the spirit in which
it is intended. This Texter said, Mandy, your last statement
about the oil industry seems to be at odds with
your blog post against.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Banning corporate welfare.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Just saying and I don't disagree with flooding the market
to brank Russia financially, but it would take a hell
of a lot of corporate welfare, more than any other
corporate welfare ever anywhere. Maybe just keep that idea on
the inside of your brain. Aha, Except Texter, first of all,
thank you for reading the blog. You're my favorite Andy's
blog dot com. There is a there would be a

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hard sunset provision on all of these tax changes, and
they would only be in effect as long as there
was a national emergency, meaning we have to defang one
of these oil nations that is doing something bad. And
then you would have to get Congress to agree to
pass it again every single year. Think about that for
a second, Texter. You'd have to ask Congress to re

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update this thing every single year. I don't think that'll
be a problem to have it go on too long.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I really don't.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Of course, then once you went back and the prices
went back to some sort of you know, normal level,
there's a lot of unintended consequences here.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
I get it. Nothing operates into vacuum and all that. Wow. Wow, Wow.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
There's a huge difference between supporting Hamas and objecting to
the US backslaughter of Gaza's innocent people. You're being purposely misleading,
and your nephew can go f himself. You are an angry,
angry person, and you are a person who probably convinced
that you're on the right side of morality because you

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believe the Israeli oppressor Palestinian oppressed narrative. And you're probably
the same sort of person who doesn't have the kahones
to actually go watch the footage that Hamas live streamed
themselves while they committed atrocities like killing babies and raping
women while slicing off their breasts. And the reality is

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is that when they took hostages back over to Gaza,
do you know who often kept those hostages? Things we
know because the hostages have been open about it. The
Palestinian people. Not everybody that kept them in their apartments
or attended to them briefly and badly, were members of Hamas.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
And as long as AMAS continues.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
To build hospitals on top of their weapons, and as
long as AMAS continues to take the billions of dollars
of aid to build tunnels for the express purpose of
murdering Jews, you're on that side, sir or madam. And
as much as you want to convince yourself that somehow

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you're advocating for the Palestinian people who are just innocent
bystanders in all of this slaughter, the reality is is
that right now Hamas is the problem. And if the
Palestinian people really wanted the fighting to be over, they
would start ratting them out, They would start demanding that
someone come in and save the rest of these hostages.

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Hamas has created this. The Palestinian people elected Hamas. They
have not turned their back on Hamas enough, and Hamas
is the problem. But you sit here and say, my
nephew can go f himself while his children grow up
in a bomb shelter. As you sit over here in
this country with your privileged little belief system, you're a vile,

(33:52):
vile person. And whatever sort of shroud of morality you
think you're wrapped in it. My friend is covered in
israel blood. So you do you but you can well,
you know what a rod I think I'm gonna block
this guy just for fun. Yep, I'm gonna do it
right now.

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Welcome to the second hour of the show. I'm your
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Speaker 5 (34:39):
Mandy Connell, joined, of course by my right hand man,
Anthony Rodriguez you can call him a Rod. And in
this hour we're going to talk about you know, I
love educational options. I love giving kids and families the
most opportunities to have their kids succeed. I have known
children who have gone to private school, public school, charter schools, homeschool,

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Christian homeschools, I mean every kind of schooling that.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
You can imagine, And I love having options.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
And joining me now to talk about one of the
options that I could to guess that this particular option
has been around maybe the longest out of any of
your non public sort of school traditional pathways, and that
is Christian homeschooling. And joining me now Keaja Davis. She
is the outreach director for the Christian Home Educators of

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Colorado Association.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Keja, Welcome to the show. First of all, I.

Speaker 10 (35:33):
Thank you, Mandy. I really appreciate you having us on.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Well, it's great to hear from you. Am I accurate
because I feel like when I was a kid at
you know, back in the seventies, like the only people
that homeschool did so because they were Christian homeschoolers. So
I feel like you guys are like the original gangster
of homeschooling.

Speaker 10 (35:52):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
It's funny that you've said that, because I feel like
there's a modern movement of homeschooling that started maybe in
the seventies eighties when it really became legal.

Speaker 10 (36:01):
But I would argue exactly what you just said. It
really is the oldest form of education.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
It's what we did from the beginning of time, parents
trained their children. Our idea of modern education really was
like the nineteen hundreds, right, It totally evolved and changed here.
So yeah, I agree, And today the homeschooling movement is
completely being transformed. It's not as largely just a Christian movement.
We're seeing families and that's why I emailed.

Speaker 9 (36:27):
The radio station.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
It's back to school season, but we're seeing a lot
of people who are saying I am done, I am out,
and they're coming to homeschooling because they're sort of.

Speaker 10 (36:36):
Fleeing what they're seeing in the public education system.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
I was talking about this earlier.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
I feel that there are there are Christian homeschoolers that
use a curriculum that is rooted and Christian principles. It
may use Bible as a reference point, you know, more
often than not. And then there's this secular homeschool movement
that doesn't really have any of those components, but is
still parents take control of what their kids are learning.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
And how they're learning. Yeah, So are you saying they're
like they kind of.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Blend together in the middle or are they distinctly different
And if so, how.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Are they different?

Speaker 6 (37:11):
Well, I definitely think that they're different, obviously different motives,
and yet at the same time, they're similar because the
motive is really they want what's best for their kid, right, right,
they're trying to take an education system because I mean,
I think the studies of families that are not happy
with the education system, it's like sixty plus percent are
saying that they're not happy with the education system. So

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we're seeing that and the reason the number one reason
in these same studies that people choose homeschooling, they're citing safety.
So it might not necessarily be biblical values, but we're hearing.
We just had our introduction to homeschool seminar. We do
several of these trainings throughout the year, but in just
the last one, it seemed like half of the group
was citing the governments think they own my children. I'm

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tired of the woke ideologies, and we're seeing that in Colorado.
I mean, look at thirteen twelve that the rally of
all the parents that came out of the woodwork, the
groups that were.

Speaker 10 (38:06):
Activists fighting against that to defend those rights.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
And I love that.

Speaker 10 (38:10):
So in my mind, I'm like, come on, come at it,
let's go.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
We have different theologies, we have different reasons that maybe,
but I think what we're united in is what we
want best for our children, what we think is best
for our kids.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
So let me ask you a few questions, because you know,
I've worked as part of the school choice.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Movement for a long time.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
I believe in charter schools, I believe in traditional schools,
and you know, and I mean it when I say
I want every kid to have access to whatever is
the best educational opportunity for them, right, whatever that is.
But ultimately you get the same kind of objections. And
one of the things that I hear when you talk
about homeschooling Christian homeschooling regularly, well, the kids don't have

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any social they don't.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
They end to be in the weird kids.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
And my personal experience with homeschool kids is the exact opposite.
They're the most social and outgoing and you know, can
talk to anybody.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Kind of thing. Is that what you see as well. Yeah,
I do.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
It's funny because it is probably the first common objection,
but it's the most ridiculous objection because if I were
to flip that around and ask you, well, where in
your life outside of K through twelve, are you going
to be in a room with thirty people who are
all your same age, who are.

Speaker 10 (39:23):
All living the same life?

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Right?

Speaker 6 (39:25):
That never happens. That's not real socialization. So homeschool that's
a myth. Are there weird homeschoolers? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (39:32):
Are there weird public schoolers?

Speaker 11 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (39:34):
Are there weird private schoolers? I mean, there are weird people.
We're at diverse human race, right, So yeah, I laugh
at that objection because it is very silly.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
What about people who say, you know what what you know?

Speaker 5 (39:46):
How do you think you're smart enough to actually teach
your own children?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
How do you think?

Speaker 5 (39:51):
I mean, teachers go to college and they get degrees
and they learn all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
How are you smart enough.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
To do this?

Speaker 10 (39:57):
It's so funny. I mean I have kind of two
thoughts on that.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
One. One of the fastest growing demographics in home education
are actually teachers because they're and they feel ill equipped,
which is hilarious, but what they're learning for education is
really classroom management, behavioral things, and that doesn't apply in
a homeschool setting. It's completely different. It's not doing school
at home. But then I like to turn that on
somebody's head and say.

Speaker 10 (40:20):
Well, did you go to public school?

Speaker 6 (40:22):
So are you telling me that public school education didn't
equip you enough to teach your.

Speaker 10 (40:25):
Kid to read? I mean, it's just funny to me.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
So but the answer, the best answer, without being snarky,
really is that there's curriculum.

Speaker 10 (40:34):
You don't have to be an expert.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
I like to say, it's not my quote, but somebody said,
you know, homeschooling is rede need two education set once.
So as a homeschool mom, you can learn with your
student because the curriculum is written differently than the public
school books that have a teacher manual and a student manual.
A lot of times, the curriculum is written so that
you're doing this as a family together.

Speaker 10 (40:55):
It makes it much more attainable. So rest assured you
can do this. And I like to joke that I
was like the smartest dumb person ever because I was
brilliant in school.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
I got like full ride scholarships for college but then
tell me ask me about it later. I went to
school for chemical engineering, and by the time we got
to chemistry, when I was doing homeschool with my kids,
I looked at the periodic table of elements, which I
at one point had memorized, and I said, I have
never seen this before in my life.

Speaker 10 (41:25):
And that is what traditional education is doing.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Is teaching us to regurgitate, to memorize. It's not creating
critical thinking.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
It's not.

Speaker 10 (41:32):
So my job is to engage a community. I want
a revolution.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
I want to see more parents embracing education. I think
the more that they are involved, the better. So clearly,
in my mind, homeschooling is the best, but I don't
really care. I want parents to just jump in, get involved.
You are equipped, and the fact that you think you're
mad equipped is kind of telling to me and kind.

Speaker 10 (41:54):
Of points to the fact that we need to do
something different.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Right, Absolutely, I mean I think that's a great I mean,
you don't think you're equipped because you just got a
public school education that you're about to send your kids to.
That's a pretty compelling argument. I just got this text message.
Most people can't afford to homeschool because both parents have
to work.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
I mean, that's an objection, that's a tightening objection. But
what would you say to that.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
That's a great objection, and I would say it's a
valid objection.

Speaker 10 (42:21):
I totally understand.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
However, schooling homeschooling is not schooling at home, so you've
got to kind of think outside the box. I think
we've been conditioned to think, well, homeschooling.

Speaker 10 (42:30):
Is you've got to sit at a desk.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
It's from like seven thirty until three or whatever, and
it's absolutely not that. You can be much more efficient
with your time and you can think outside the box
and think creatively as a homeschool mom. Myself, I did
stay home with my children, but I never didn't work.
I also, we were entrepreneurs. We had our own business,
we did side things, so we worked in non traditional

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ways in non traditional times.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
So you don't.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Necessarily have to do it when all the kids are
going on their yellow school bus.

Speaker 10 (42:59):
You can do it outside of that.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
And then there are other I mean, there's some great
studies that's not really in my wheelhouse, but there's a
lot of information about how that second job really is
costing you.

Speaker 10 (43:10):
So it's evaluating and reassessing your priorities.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
And these are some of the things that we like
to talk about at check because you know, Christian home
Educators of Colorado, we're here to support homeschooling, to lift
up their hands, to point them to resources, just to
strengthen them.

Speaker 10 (43:25):
And that's a real life objection. So how do you
do that?

Speaker 6 (43:28):
And we want to give them some tips and some
blog posts and some encouragement from real life homeschoolers that
just talk about those real things to help you think creatively,
not the way it's always been done, because there is
a there is.

Speaker 11 (43:41):
A way well.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
And I will say that the rise of remote work
has also been very helpful. Both my son and his
wife work, but they work remotely so they're able to
homeschool my grandsons because.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
They can balance that very very easily. So what kind
of support is there?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Because I'm aware I have a lot of friends from
homeschooled and to your point, most of them are former
public school teachers or even private school teachers, and they've
left the field to stay and teach their own kids.
But what kind of support do you have or are
their homeschool groups like yours? Or how can people find
the community that.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Exists Yeah, that's a really good question too, because yeah,
homeschooling is not being a little hermit inside your box,
inside your bubble. You really do want community and you
need the right community to support you and help you.

Speaker 10 (44:30):
Especially as you said, a lot of people do need.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
To incomes and trying to think outside the box, and
that does require probably support and community. So again, check
dot org is our website, and we do. We have
a whole directory of homeschool groups that are from support
groups to co ops to enrichment programs and I'm on
and on the list goes. But basically you can kind

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of find a community where you can get around that
other resources.

Speaker 10 (44:59):
I mean, if you think of the homeschool need, we
have it from encouragement too.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
We have a podcast that is all about talking to
homeschool moms and helping them tell their stories so other
people couldn't be inspired in other ways.

Speaker 10 (45:12):
So there is a plethora of it's almost a little
bit too much.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
So I like to help navigate people because every homeschool
family is different, and you said that at the beginning,
like I want to see families embrace what they need
for their home, and they're going to have unique needs
because they have unique children, right, and that's what homeschooling
affords is the opportunity for them to customize and to
have a really specific education plan that incorporates everything holistically.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
So do not have do you have any data on
the college readiness or college attainment of homeschool kids versus
the general population of other kids?

Speaker 6 (45:52):
Yeah, I don't have it memorized necessarily, but I do
know that the statistics on homeschool students and standardized testing
is like an average of twenty five points higher, twenty
five cottage points higher, which is amazing, and that's always
been the case on standardized test comparisons.

Speaker 10 (46:09):
So that's really encouraging.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
And I do know I've heard anecdotal stories of schools
pursuing college. College is pursuing homeschool graduates. So yeah, there's
no data that suggests that there isn't that college path.

Speaker 10 (46:22):
In fact, the opposite.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Well, this texture just said, Mandy, don't forget about ask,
don't forget to ask about going to college. My son
graduated from Colorado's School of Minds. They love homeschoolers.

Speaker 10 (46:32):
Yes, a lot of times I hear that.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
That's why I said, anecdotally, I hear college admission people
talking about Oh, they're great because they're independent learners. They
know how to be critical thinking, they know how to
do something more than just what they're told.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Right, right when people are thinking about this, you mentioned
a few things that are on your website. I want
to find out, like you said, enrichment, what does that mean?

Speaker 6 (46:55):
So when we have different classes and co ops that
you can do. So a co op would be families
coming together and kind of sharing the work and teaching.
Maybe Susie teaches art and Sero teaches.

Speaker 10 (47:06):
Science, that kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
An enrichment program is where you kind of all acart
pick some supplemental things. So you might want to do
a lego robotics class, but you don't feel like you
could do it. So an enrichment program would be a
great resource for you where you can just pick the
activities that are going to really enrich your homeschool.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Right.

Speaker 9 (47:24):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I just wanted to clarify
so if people understood.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
I think that when people initially start thinking about homeschooling,
there is also that fear of loneliness, not just for
the kids, but especially if you have an only child,
and every family that I have known, and again I've
known so many that have homeschooled. Their kids have played
sports because the district that you're in can accommodate, that
they have done after school activities, They've done all these

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enrichment plans, and then they would also take a family trip.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
To go to the beach to do a marine biology.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Experience because they could and the stuff that they were
able to do with their kids and did it in
a way that was fully educational and that you know,
worked for their family.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I loved it.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
I mean I absolutely loved it. My daughter was like,
I do not want to homeschool. She was like adamant,
she wanted to go to school.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
So here we are.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
But I'm thrilled that my son and his wife are
doing it and casual. What a great advocate for this
you are. And I put the link to your website
on the blog today and that's check CCHEC dot org.
If you want more information, you can check it out
there Upunintended and find that out more. But is it
too late, Like here's the thing. Is it too late

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for people that started this school year already? Is it
too late to make the shift right.

Speaker 10 (48:41):
No, and we see that a lot.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Actually, there's families that start school and they're like, wow,
I wasn't really happy last year, but we're just gonna
go ahead and do it, because I think people just
get stuck. They get in that mindset and they're like, well,
this is what we do because this is what we've
always done. So we will see a surge in homeschool
interest even the first month after the school starts, and
then in January. A lot of times families are like,

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that's it, so you can start homeschooling year round anytime.
And that is one of the things that we help
families do all the time is figure out how to
navigate withdrawing your child from a.

Speaker 10 (49:13):
Public school system.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
I always advocate for a deschooling period when you do that,
because the paradigm is so different.

Speaker 10 (49:20):
Schooling is not doing school at home, and you kind
of have to shift.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
I mean, you you just gave some great examples of
some of the things I love about homeschooling and traveling
and doing educational activities and building around all these fun
things that you can do that you don't have the
time to do when your child is in public school.
And that's One of the things that I hear families
who did public school who start now or private school
even is they just can't believe how much time they

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lost with their kids in school, and they just get
to redeem that because instead of them getting on the
bus and then coming home, you can get school done
in like four hours, and they can pursue other interests
and other activities, whether it be sports or science.

Speaker 10 (49:57):
Or reading or music or whatever. It can be so
life giving and so enriching.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
But I just want to go back to your comment
too about the double income and can people afford it.
We have an outreach that we do called the Castleline Fund.
It was named after the family that started it. But
it's a single mom's outreach. So I know so many
moms who are single who are also homeschooling. So this
is completely attainable. I mean, these single moms have to

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work full time, and many times they have like a
remote job, or they have a small business where they're
doing school in the place of business.

Speaker 10 (50:33):
That kind of thing, right, or they have family that
they're relying on. But this is attainable.

Speaker 9 (50:38):
It can be done.

Speaker 10 (50:39):
It's really fun. I won't lie. I think homeschooling is hard.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
It takes dedication and commitment, but I think it's totally
worth it.

Speaker 10 (50:46):
And I love that the movement is growing.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
I think people are waking up to the possibilities and
it's beautiful in my mind.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
I do And if you need more information or do
you want any of their other questions answered, just go
over to the check dot org website chec dot org
and I also put a link on the blog today
right at the top. Kaja, you are just such a
wonderful advocate for this. I really appreciate you coming on
and I'm sure you've got the wheels spinning for some
of our listeners out there, so I appreciate it so

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much today.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Thank you, Thank you. That is Kaja Davis. She is
the outreach.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Director for the Christian Home Educators of Colorado and fascinating topic.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Ben Albright, get in here.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
I left four minutes in this segment just to have
this because apparently our own Ben Albright, Hey not afraid
to sling the sauce.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
He's got a mouth on him this one. And then
he's like, yeah, I was homeschool. How did that go?
I bet you were the worst student in class?

Speaker 12 (51:48):
He was not.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
My brother was so yeah, that's one thing when you
go there with your I enjoyed it. I did four
years of each type of schooling.

Speaker 12 (51:57):
I did four years of private school, four years of homeschool,
and four he was a public school.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
My sister homeschooled my nephew for like two years because
he kept she kept having to go talk to the teacher,
and the teacher would say things like, your son is
extremely entertaining, a little too entertaining. So in order to
ratchet him back from that, she homeschooled him for two years.
And after the first three months, she's like, oh my god,
we're done in like an hour and a half every day.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
That really was sort of the thing.

Speaker 12 (52:23):
So my brother and I went to private school, and
he's fifteen months younger that he's a great below me,
and he was having some problems because he had dyslexia,
so he was having some problems.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
And then I, on the other.

Speaker 12 (52:33):
Hand, and this is going to sound like a brag,
so I'm sorry, but they want to do advance me
a few grades, and my mother felt that that was
not socially appropriate, appropriated that for a third grader to
be with ninth graders. Correct, So yeah, you know that
was going to be that was going to be awkward,
So she pulled us both home and bless her heart,
she tailored lesson plans to both of us, both my
brother and intept to help with his dyslexia and me

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to keep me sort of stimulated.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
And I heard a blame is that what you're is
that what I'm hearing right now that we have heard
of blame yes for.

Speaker 12 (53:02):
That entirely my mother for both birthing me and and
teaching me no.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
But she did.

Speaker 12 (53:08):
She did a great job with with all that and
really found ways to find hooks that kept us.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
And so I I credit her with my love of learning.

Speaker 12 (53:18):
Now, the one thing I would say, I heard you
guys talk about the social aspect, that there were some
some aspects of it that were kind of wonky on
the social thing, but there are also groups where a
bunch of home schoolers got together and did stuff.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Now I think even now, I mean, you're not that young,
you're not that much younger than I am. You're younger
than I am, but not at a time now like
right now today. Now, so much stuff now that I
just think that that's one of those objections that has
been fully answered by the homeschool communities and the co
ops and all of that stuff. You have so many
and you can put your kids in sports in the district.
I mean, there's a lot of opportunities. So that for

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me is like one of those non objection objections.

Speaker 12 (53:54):
The only reason I went to public school after that,
which is what I did last, was because at the
time and the state of Arkansas, homeschoolers could only get
a ged and could not get a diploma thanks Arkansas,
and so I had to go. I went to public
school so that I made sure I had a diploma
because we were worried about for college and how that
looked all those because which ultimately turned out to be
a non thing, right, But it was because they changed.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
The laways in high school.

Speaker 9 (54:16):
But that was the only reason I wanted.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
I loved it.

Speaker 12 (54:19):
We had days where it would be a lot of stuff,
we had days where it wouldn't be. We got to
take vacations when we wanted to.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
He's good for.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Disney in the middle of February when no one's there
in the middle of the week.

Speaker 7 (54:29):
Never been to Disney.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Actually, Oh wow, I'm a.

Speaker 12 (54:32):
Horrible human being.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
I'm a Disney file. But they've ruined it. They really
have to ruined the magic of Disney.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Yet I in Tampa never went.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
This is the problem.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
When you live in Orlando, you gather up a circle
of friends who work on Disney property, so they just
walk you in. I have been to Disney, I don't
even know, like well and over one hundred times, easily, easily.
I have drunk around Epcot and I didn't say drink,
I said around.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Epcot, because that's what that is.

Speaker 8 (55:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Yeah, And pro tip, go left when you come in.
Start at the Mexican restaurant. Okay, make your way back around.
Gaped up at Canada.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
I ever make my way down to disneyh.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
Yeah, because I'll be ready for just beer by the
time you get to Canada. Done after that, Well you
turned out, okay, Ben, No more or less, I mean,
for the most part.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
A story from our friends over at CBS four CDs
Colorado as they brand themselves now.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Bright Moss got a hot tip at.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
The Denver City Council in the midst of the same
week that the city is laying off employees, was going
on a big fancy retreat. Team building is what it
was all about. I'm just gonna let Brian Moss tell
you the story because it's Oh it's a peach. Oh sorry,
should have let you know, a rod aain ten.

Speaker 13 (55:50):
Denver City Council members, we'll head for this retreat center
in Park County for two nights and one day of
team building and professional development. The price tag over twenty
six thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
How do we come together as a body?

Speaker 13 (56:05):
Denver City Council President Amanda Sandoval said she previously attended
an event at the Lone Rock Retreat, which boasts of
breathtaking views, oxygen enrichment systems and rooms, a fitness center
and yoga room. Sandoval said she was impressed with its
ability to accommodate disabled people, so council signed a twenty
six thousand Wait.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
I have to stop there, and I'm asking a real
question here. Does anyone on the Denver City Council use
a wheelchair? I'm genuinely asking the question because if there
is someone who uses a wheelchair, then that makes perfect sense.
But unless there is, I it's just like a non sequitur, right,

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let me ask Rock. Hang on, does anyone I'm gonna
just ask Rock, anyone on the Denver City Council use
a wheelchair. I mean, it's it's very possible. There would
be nothing surprising about that. But I'll let a man
to Sannibal keep talking here about this twenty six thousand

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dollars which week they're going on.

Speaker 13 (57:16):
It's a dollar contract which amounts to about two thousand
dollars per person in early May.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
You have to do two things. You have to both
drive increases in your revenue.

Speaker 13 (57:25):
Two weeks later, Mayor Mike Johnston announced a massive budget
deficit and the need for layoffs.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
The truth is, this is hard, and this is going
to be hard.

Speaker 11 (57:35):
We signed this contract prior to knowing any budget shortfall.
We signed this contract prior to knowing any furlough days.
We signed this contract before knowing layoffs.

Speaker 13 (57:48):
Sano All said, given the layoffs and furloughs and deficits,
council tried to get a refund but could not, so
they will head up to so let me.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Just stop right there.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
So they signed a non insullable contract two weeks. I
mean it has to be non cancel because, I mean,
why in the world would the cancelation period be only
less than two weeks If they weren't going until you know, August.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
It just seems anyway.

Speaker 13 (58:18):
But I'll let her continue Bailey next Wednesday and return
to Denver Friday morning, a city furlough day.

Speaker 11 (58:24):
So just because we're having a time of crisis doesn't
mean that city councils shouldn't learn how to work better together.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Yeah, it kind of does, Miss Sandival, it actually does.
And thank you to gro Christopher Hines on the Denversity
Council uses a wheelchair.

Speaker 9 (58:41):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
That's why I ask the question. That makes sense now,
Otherwise it just seems like a weird thing to say.
Just like, just because we're having a crisis doesn't mean
that we shouldn't be working to get along better.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Kind it does kind of does.

Speaker 11 (59:01):
This doesn't mean that city councils shouldn't learn how to
work better together.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
It really doesn't. Can't you have found a less expensive
place and way to do this.

Speaker 11 (59:13):
I've done research on places to do facilities, and there's
not a lot of options. And we do not have
facilities like that in Denver.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
We don't have facilities that have yoga studios, fitness rooms
and oxygenated rooms. Guys, I've been to retreats that were
at fancy resorts. Got to go to a retreat at
fancy resort that was really fun. I've gone to retreats
that were in hotel ballrooms that were an absolute blasts.
I've been to retreats at ropes, courses, you know what

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I'm talking about, Like you have to you just strap
on and you're we're in a little helmet. You're walking
across wobbly things and you hope you don't fall off
and die. I mean, retreats can happen in a variety
of ways, but I don't think I've ever been to
a retreat that costs two thousand dollars a person. And
I'm gonna just say this about retreats overall, I have

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never been to a retreat that I thought was worth anything.
I have never gained anything from a retreat. Nothing has
ever significantly changed after I went to a retreat with
other people in the company.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
The retreats generally.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Were opportunities to sit around and talk about big ideas
that never occurred because there was no money for them
in the first place, and for people to drink together.
That is exactly what retreats that I've been to have
been like. Has anybody in our listening audience had a
different retreat experience.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
That's what I'd love to know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Have you ever been to a retreat where you thought,
my gosh, that was the game changing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Event, it was going to help us move forward.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
They are temporary at best. I just this is so
incredibly ridiculous. So this week they're going to this lugit
curious resort while people are finding out they got laid off.
I mean, it's just it's almost perfect. Really, It's just
it is so let them eat cake. Just because we're

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in a fiscal crisis does not mean that we should
not be working or learning on how to get together,
how to get along better.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Anidia kind of does just a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
It's gonna be news to the city of Denver people
who have probably been hosting retreats for years now that
they don't have the facilities to make this happen.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
They may not be as nice. And who gets a
to night one day retreat? Did you hear that to
night one day? They roll in four o'clock the day
before that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
I guess that's so they can take advantage of the
fitness center, in the yoga room and the oxygenated rooms.
Then the next day they have the full day of
the retreat, and instead of packing up and leaving, they're
doing a second night.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
At the place. I mean, you guys, is just.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
And by the way, you're paying for this city of Denver.
You guys are the ones picking up the bill. So
I hope you enjoy it. I truly, truly hope you
enjoy it. Anyway, I want to hear your retreat stories.
Has anybody else been in a retreat? Mandy thirty five
years in big business, and every retreat was a big boomdoggle.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
I know, right, agree, retreats are a waste of time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
I think you get more out of saying you know
what group, you know what team, we need to do
a little team building. We're gonna go throw some axes,
We're gonna go we're gonna go shoot some guns, we're
gonna go blow.

Speaker 9 (01:02:40):
Some stuff up.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
We are gonna go and have the best time ever.
And then by the end of it you will all
feel better about one another. And then you sit down
and have a conversation about not being a jerk. I mean,
what else do you need at a team building activity?
Do you really think that the people on the Denver
City Council who don't like the other people on the
Denver City Council. When I'm sure there are some, I
honestly don't pay enough to the machinations of the Denver

(01:03:03):
City Council to know who is opposed to whom I
don't care. Do you really think anything is significant as
going to change after they go up and they go to, oh, well, Mandy,
I went on a I how do you say this?
Ayahasca aya ayahuasca, ayahuasca, ayahuasca.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
That's like the psychedelic thing, right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
I went on a ioha whatever iyahsca retreat and it
changed my life forever for the better.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
That is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about where.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
Businesses decide that they are going to take people away
somewhere else and they are going to do things that
are supposed to be team building.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
You know, stand up and tell.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
The crowd something about yourself that they don't know. Do
you know what I always say, Anthony, In every situation
that I've had to do that for the last thirty
five years, I say the same thing. My name's Mandy
and I've killed a man, And then I'm like, no,
I'm just kidding it brings the house down, because really,
I mean, how stud what do you? I don't know, Mandy.

(01:04:03):
About twenty years ago, was with a company that rented
a suite at Course Field. Was told we were going
to go see a Rockies game for team building.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
I said I didn't want to go.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Was told if I didn't go, I would be fired
because nothing says team building like mandatory attendance at a
baseball game.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
I do believe that the Denver City Council needs to
learn to work together better, but they can't do that
for a day in somebody else's backyard.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
Amen. Just come on, Mandy. Hines may not be the
only reason we have.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
A sidewalk tax, and we're all required to have sidewalks
in Denver. But we do have a few Democratic Socialists
of America on the council. Yes we do, which is
why Denver's runs so poorly. And it really is, really,
it really is. If you want to know the unintended
consequences of the ridiculous laws that had been passed in

(01:04:56):
Colorado when it comes to being a landlord, look no
further than this next story.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Nearly two hundred police calls.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Have been made to the Aspen Ridge Apartments in Arvada
this year and this year alone one of the busiest
addresses for law enforcement in the area. So what's going
on at the Aspen Ridge Apartments in Ravada residents, and
by residents, I mean the people that actually have a
lease there and are paying rent there. They say that

(01:05:26):
they're squatters and a handful of problem tenants that are
making daily life miserable.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
I don't know if any of those problem tenants could
be connected to I don't know Venezuelan gangs, but whenever
I see a story like this, I just think to myself,
don't tell the governor. He's going to have all these
figments of imaginations to deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
What's super frustrating is that squatters have been moving into
the complex, stealing energy from the boxes out back, and
now the Arvada police just keep getting called over and
over and over again to get rid of these unwanted people.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Here's the kicker.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
Under Colorado's new eviction law, landlords must provide longer notice
periods and mandatory mediation before evicting tenants, which of course
slows the entire process down to a crawl. In Denver,
if you want to evict someone, there are a lot
of circumstances now where you have to pay into a

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fund that they can tap into for an attorney to
fight the eviction. And they've just absolutely made it miserable.
So now what they've done, what the Colorado legislature has done,
and I'm just going to guess here, but I bet
you that these apartment complexes are probably not the newest
or nicest amenity filled complexes out there. They're probably older,

(01:06:50):
there may be a little more affordable, and you've got
people that are working their tails off to be able
to pay their rent there, and they're having their lives
made absolutely miserable by squad and people that they cannot evict.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
This is what the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
Legislature has done to the lower middle class because guess what,
rich people won't put up with this, But all these
people can do is call the police and hope for
the best. Police and management have said, look, we're doing
what we can. We've added patrols, we've added extra security,
but they are limited by the laws in Colorado that

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prevents them from getting rid of the scumbags who are
making life miserable for everyone else.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
I mean, have we not learned our lesson of what.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Happens when you allow the bad element to take hold
in these apartment complexes?

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Have we not figured that out yet?

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
And instead of addressing this, the Colorado legislature just passed
more more onerous regulations.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Did you know that in Colorado? Maybe just in Denver?

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
I don't know which ridiculous lawmaking body of Democrats did
this one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Now, if someone is in a.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
Domestic violence situation, they can provide an affidavit, so they
could just file. They just make an affidavit and present
it to you and essentially not pay their rent for
six months. I don't even understand how you're supposed to
if you're like a you know, Chuck and I own
one rental property and thank god we have a great

(01:08:19):
tenant in there now, easy tenant. Oh it's lovely. But man,
they make it miserable here. They really make it miserable
to be a landlord. Arvada has dramatically fallen too, So
has Golden sad As. You know what I gotta tell
you guys, though, I mean, like little downtown Eravada is

(01:08:40):
just cute as a little button.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
They have the cutest little shops there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
My friend Chris Spears owns two shops there, outside the
Box and outside the Box two. I like downtown Arvada.
There's a lot going on, but I don't ever drive
around Arvada. I go to Arvada to go to retailer
Revolution and their offices in a nice little neighborhood. I
don't see any riff raff there. And then I drive
to Arvada to go to downtown Eravada or the Butchery.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
I like the butchery, good restaurant over there, also in
a nice little neighborhood. So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
And last Simme I was in Golden It's still looked
like cute little Golden Mandy. I'm happy I only invest
in REITs instead of actual Colorado real estate. Yes, that
would have been a better move. When we get back,
I've got a bunch of stories on the blog, but
I got to tell you I have a story today
about a report, a climate report entitled carbon dioxide in

(01:09:31):
a Warming Climate or not Problems.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
That's not what I want to talk about today, though.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
I want to talk about what happened when a scholarly
journal published this, and it explains so much why scientists
are afraid to ask for any money for anything except
what you know conforms with the CO two is poison narrative.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
We're going to do that next.

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Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
Minutes or so, I get to talk to Michelle Tafoya,
long of the Sidelines, but now she's moved into political commentary,
and I gotta tell you, I love following her on X.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
She does a very good job.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
I told Airod she's I would say, right center in
that order, and you know, interesting opinions and whatnot. She's
going to be part of the Steamboat Institute's Freedom Conference
this weekend coming up. There's still tickets available. It is
one of my favorite events. I usually go every year,
but because of my surgery, I didn't want to commit
and then not be able to go, and I'm mad

(01:11:00):
that I didn't just go. But whatever, it's fine. We'll
talk to Michelle in about half an hour. So this story,
this story that I'm gonna share with you next, is
a perfect example of why there is a consensus on
climate change.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Hear me out.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
I have interviewed since I got my first show in
two thousand and five. That's when I got my first show.
I have interviewed multiple scientists over the years about different
alternative theories about why we are warming at the rate
we are warming. Okay, and you have to understand this consensus,
the CO two consensus that we have, in my mind,

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is designed to cripple the economies of developed nations while
redistributing our wealth to those around the world. Now, we
could argue about the morality of that all day long.
I don't really care. That's not the point of this conversation.
But each of these scientists that had an alternative theory
for why we're warming at the rate we're warming now,

(01:12:00):
they all said we can't get funding for our research
because we won't toe the line. And the first time
it was said to me, I was like, oh, okay, sure, okay,
But then it was said to me again, right, And
then I had a conversation with a guy who refused
to go on the air with me but he gave
me about an hour and a half phone call. And

(01:12:20):
this was probably twenty years ago, almost not quite, but
maybe two thousand and eight. He was in charge of
grant procurement for a college that worked. It was a
scientific college. It was not a climatology college, but it
was like an environmental science college. And he flat out

(01:12:42):
told me that if you send a proposal for a
grant that does not end with carbon dioxide is the problem,
you will not get money. And so when they want
to investigate something that did not necessarily have that endgame,
they had to write their proposal in such a way
as to completely what they were actually trying to do,
or otherwise they would get no money. So then you

(01:13:04):
have to think, why would that be? Why are we
so married to a consensus?

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Went through?

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
You know, since the beginning of time, science has been
about inquiry. It's been about arguing whether or not something
is accurate. It's been about proving or disproving and all
of that stuff. Well, now it is, well, that's a consensus.
I have a perfect example of that that just happened
if the American Journal of Economics and Sociology. Now I
realize what you're saying, Mandy, I don't subscribe to that magazine,

(01:13:29):
nor do I, but scholarly types do. This is a
scholarly publication. So there was a guy, Marty Roland, PhD.
He was the special issue editor at the American Journal
of Economics and Sociology.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
He was just fired. Why was he fired.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
Because he published a paper titled carbon dioxide and a
warming climate are not problems now. In this paper, the
authors argued using only evidence, not models, because climate models
are just best guests.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
They are not evidence.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
They are projections of what is supposed to happen. And
I don't need to tell you that since you know,
the first climate models came out with Michael Man's hockey
stick in nineteen ninety six. The models have been spectacularly wrong, over.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
And over and over again.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Yet it is those models that some people rely on
to claim that the consensus is unassailable. Well, this paper
argued differently, using only evidence, using only measurements, or using
only actual science to come to these conclusions. It is
a peer reviewed paper. They have responded to criticisms already.

(01:14:46):
They have responded multiple times to researchers who are calling
them climate deniers again, so they have withstood all of
this scrutiny.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
The paper itself is not being questioned.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
The decision to publish it is apparently the problem, and
it got this guy fired, which is absolutely insane. By
the way, I've already reached out to the study authors
to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
The actual study.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
Because it's fascinating and I read part of it today.
I've read the whole thing, but I'd like to have
them come on and talk about why or how the
paper work, because it's very, very interesting. But the mere
crime of just publishing a peer reviewed paper in a
scholarly journal is enough to get someone fired. That is

(01:15:36):
why scientists will not buck the narrative. Their livelihoods are
on the line. Now, this guy has like four other jobs.
He did this like as one of his side hustles.
He's not going to starve, he's not going to be
abut selling pencils on the street trying to get by, right,
But scientists who only have one job, they know that

(01:15:59):
they're not going to be able to continue working if
they don't toe the party line. This is why climate
science overall is suspect. It's not real science.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
By the way, Oh wait, where's this part? I want
to share this right now.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
In addition, other board members were pressured by Wiley, which
is the company that publishes this publication, to write critiques
of their paper. These are Cobb twenty twenty four and
Gwartney and Laff. Both papers make the same arguments that
the consensus says climate change is dangerous, so it must
be so. I mean, come on, guys, we're supposed to

(01:16:36):
be scientists here, right, I mean scientists in my mind
at least, I've always thought they're smart, right, I mean, right,
when we get back, if everything is hate speech, nothing
is hate speech. A message for the ADL. When everything
is declared to hate speech, nothing is hate speech. And
I'm referring to the Anti Defamation League. Now, the Anti
Defamation League is not nearly at the level of grifting

(01:17:01):
that the Southern Poverty Law Center is not even close.
But an organization that started with such important and lofty
goals that was to push back against anti Semitism here
in the United States, back when being a Jewish Man
could get you hung by the KKK, right, I mean,
it was a significant issue.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
And I would argue now.

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
That they have plenty to focus on on college campuses,
and you know, globalizing into Fada and all of the
stuff that's happening. But instead they're expanding the definitions of
some things in their glossary of extremism.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
And hate terms.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
Now you would think I mean glossary of extremism and
hate terms. It would seem pretty obvious. Like I can
think of words that I don't use ever, but could
be very offensive and damaging and you know, could be
considered hate speech. I could think of things, but one
of them that I think that I don't think of
his hate speech is the phrase America First. Now listen

(01:18:05):
to the reasoning here. According to the Anti Defamation League,
America First is a term that refers to the World
War II era America First Committee and is used by
extremist in anti Semitic, racist, and xenophobic ways. America First
in conservative circles often refers to an ideology that was

(01:18:26):
promoted by Donald Trump when he ran for office and
served in office, which emphasizes American like oh hang on
my computer, just update, which emphasizes American nationalism, non intervention
and anti immigrant and anti globalism beliefs. Or it means
that we want to put the needs and priorities of

(01:18:47):
Americans ahead of everybody else when it comes to American policy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
How about that? And by the way, here's the kicker.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
Here's what I love about America first, because when I
say put America first and Americans first, I'm talking about
white Americans, Black Americans, Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans, seek Americans,
you know, Asian Americans, everybody, everybody that's an American living

(01:19:18):
in America. I want policies that are going to benefit
those people first, because generally speaking, they're the people paying
the freight for those policies. Not to say that people
here illegally are not contributing to the tax system, but overall,
it's going to be your you know, Americans that are

(01:19:40):
going to make that happen. And you have to believe
that America, the word America only means like white Christian people.
In order to think that America first would be anything
that could be possibly perceived as racist or xenophobic or
any of that stuff. I am to a certain extent
and anti globalist. I had a video on the blog.

(01:20:03):
Wait did I put it on the blog yesterday? Maybe
I just had it on X I might have just
retweeted it on X And it is a video of
a woman trying to shove a pencil or a pen
into a teenage girl's hand, as the teenage girl is
screaming and crying because she doesn't want to sign the
marriage certificate for the forced marriage that she's being shoved into.

(01:20:26):
And when I looked at it, I was like, Western
culture is better than that. I'm not even I don't
even feel bad about saying that we're not a perfect
nation and Western values whatever that is, have been bastardized
in a lot of ways. But I would put what
we do over here over that nonsense. And when I
say America first, I mean the people who inhabit this country,

(01:20:50):
and I do think that we need to look out
for them before we look out.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
For the rest of the world. Period. I don't feel
bad about it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
So the ADL in expanding this definition, and by the way,
I went and looked at some of their other words,
and they've got a lot of really bad words in there.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not all stupidity
like this, But when you decide everything is racist or
hateful because one person randomly worked and massaged it long
enough to try and figure out a way to make

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the assumption that you somehow are using that as coded
or you know, racist or anti semitic or xenophobic language.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
I can't help you, Like, I'm not responsible for how
you receive what I say.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
You know, whatever you hear, that's on you. I mean,
I'm saying it, but however you interpret it. You can
twist a lot of things a lot of ways. But
the reality is, I just think that they jumped the
shark here, especially at a time when certainly there's real
issues to be addressed. When we get back, we are
going to talk to one Ms Michelle Tafoya, long of

(01:21:52):
the NFL sidelines now are regular on Fox News and
a person that's going to be at the Steamboat Institute's
Freedom conferences again, that's coming up next. She spent a
lot of time on the sidelines, bringing us the trade
scoop as it was happening down on the sidelines. Well,
now she has moved into the world of political talk.
And I got to tell you, Michelle Tafoya, I think

(01:22:15):
you're crazy because it's miserable in here right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
Like sports is fun. Everybody loves sports.

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
But man, you start getting down in the nitty gritty
and you start bringing out the worst in people.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (01:22:28):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:22:29):
You're not the first person who told me I was
crazy for making this decision. But I will tell you
that being in Green Bay on you know, like December
thirty first, is also miserable.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
So and trust me, I was at.

Speaker 14 (01:22:42):
Denver many times in the snow where I was dying
to be endorsed. No. I had a great, wonderful, wonderful
sports career.

Speaker 9 (01:22:49):
I loved every minute of it. But I just fell
to calling to do something different.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
So I've got to ask you, is it harder to
be a woman on the sidelines or harder to be
someone right of center in television?

Speaker 9 (01:23:04):
The latter for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Someone write the center.

Speaker 9 (01:23:08):
Now, I'll tell you this. I had a blast with
my colleagues, you know.

Speaker 14 (01:23:12):
Look, I worked with John Madden and Al Michaels and
then John, then al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth, and for
all of those years we had just some wonderful conversations
about all kinds of things, politics included. Look, we were
covering the NFL during the twenty sixteen election when players
were kneeling during the anthem. We had the whole COVID season.
We had so much going on that you couldn't help

(01:23:34):
but talk politics behind the scenes. Now, it's not something
we ever brought to the screen with us, but in
our meetings, at our dinners, all of that, they all
knew exactly who I was and where I stood, and
everyone was incredibly respectful, almost everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
What made you the way you are?

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
What do you credit your life experiences? What got you
to the point where you're like, you know what, I'm
pretty unabashed. I call myself a libreservative, like Iman, who
is you know? I would say a little more conservative
than a pure libertarian. I think based on following you
on Twitter or X I'll call it Twitter probably till
I die, you were in much of the same camp.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
What created that?

Speaker 14 (01:24:16):
Well, first of all, my upbringing. My dad was the
son of legal migrants and grew up very poor. My
mom grew up very poor. They both grew up during
the Depression, extremely poor, and so they both had an intense,
insane work ethic. And you couldn't help as one of
their kids to absorb that and understand what hard work

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is all about, and that when you work hard enough
you get really lucky.

Speaker 9 (01:24:42):
It's really interesting. The harder you work, the luckier you get.

Speaker 14 (01:24:45):
And I just practiced that my entire life, from the
time I was a kid. Seriously, I've worked almost my
entire life. And so because I wanted the American dream
that both my parents got, and they made sure all
four of their kids went to college. Neither of my
parents had an exceedingly high paying job. My mom was

(01:25:06):
a public school teacher, my dad was an aeronautical engineer.
But they they made education very important in our lives.
And I'm fortunate to say I got out of education
somewhat unscathed.

Speaker 12 (01:25:19):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:25:20):
I went to Berkeley for my college years, so you know,
and then I went to business school.

Speaker 9 (01:25:26):
I got a master's in business, and that will really
open your.

Speaker 14 (01:25:28):
Eyes to a lot of reality as opposed to some
of the emotional stuff you can learn in school, some
of the sociology and all the psychology and all this.
You take a business degree, get a master's in business,
and the real world's kind of.

Speaker 9 (01:25:40):
Slapped you in the face.

Speaker 14 (01:25:41):
And then nine to eleven happened, and I felt for
the first time like I actually was worried for my country,
and I really love this country. In spide of her
flaws past flaws. I know there's no place better on Earth.
I adopted a child from Columbia, South America. I know
there's better place on Earth than America.

Speaker 9 (01:26:01):
So I love this place. I cherish it, and I
see things going badly, certainly.

Speaker 14 (01:26:08):
After nine to eleven, I did, and I just over time,
I just thought, I've got too much to say, and
you can't when you're on the number one show in primetime,
as Sunday Night Football was, you can't bring those opinions
in without being really selfish. And I was part of
a team and I signed up for that, and I
knew that I needed to keep my politics to myself.

Speaker 9 (01:26:29):
So ultimately I thought, I got to get out of
this show so I can be who I am.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
How do I admire that about you? And I'm not
just blowing smoke up your skirt. I mean that is
there are a lot of people who don't take those
other things into consideration, and we've seen it. This is
so random, But yesterday I saw an article where Gal
Gado is in Israel trying to explain why snow White
bombed talk about you know, her co star really set
the table for that failure. And to your point, a

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lot of people don't think about the impact that it's having.
What are some of the things that are animating you
right now? On the Michelle Tafoya podcast, which is also
available on all of your podcast platforms.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
A little plug there.

Speaker 14 (01:27:07):
Oh yes, please dude, check it out, subscribe, never missed
an episode. Well, certainly, crime, public safety, and national security
have always seemed to me to be the very base
level requirements of people we hire to run our country,
run our cities, run our states, and they've done in

(01:27:28):
many winning ways, such an abysmal job, and that affects
every single person.

Speaker 9 (01:27:34):
I don't care what your gender identity is.

Speaker 14 (01:27:36):
I don't care what your national your background is, I
don't care where you come from, what your income is.
Public safety is a concern for everyone, just as national
security is for everyone.

Speaker 9 (01:27:46):
So I was big on the border.

Speaker 14 (01:27:49):
The whole crisis under Biden was just, to me, an
absolute It was the most foolish thing. I think there
were reasons that happening, but for people to stand up
there and tell us the border was closed, the border
was safe, and if you're thinking of coming, don't it
was laughable to me. So that one really animated me,

(01:28:10):
particularly because you know, I come from a family of
legal immigrants, not that many generations back, so that one,
I'll tell you, school choice is really high on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
And I.

Speaker 14 (01:28:25):
Must say that just every day that I'm bouncing around
what you call Twitter, what we all call either Twitter
or X and I see the hypocrisy out there and
some of the arguments that aren't really arguments.

Speaker 9 (01:28:40):
The left of center people.

Speaker 14 (01:28:44):
Just shouting louder, calling names, and not really arguing their
points with real facts and real, real acumen.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
I've been fascinated as of late, and I'm gonna be
perfectly honest with you. My audience knows I was not
an enthusiastic Trump supporter. I after January sixth, I was
kind of like, I'm done. I voted for him again.
He has surprised me on so many measures. But one
of the things that I found the most shocking recently
was that you now have people on social media saying

(01:29:16):
things like I've lived in Washington, D C. For four
years and I was mugged once, but it's much better now.
And you're like, wait a minute, why why is that
level of crime okay? And it's almost like there's this
weird like Stockholm syndrome all most of these people in
these big cities that their response to We're going to

(01:29:36):
do something about crime is.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
But crime isn't that bad, is it? And it's like,
what is happening right now?

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
You know?

Speaker 14 (01:29:44):
It reminds me of that wonderful moment during the twenty
twenty four campaign when jd Vance sat across from Martha
Raddits and say, just a few.

Speaker 9 (01:29:53):
Apartments are being overrun by Sunday Martha, do you hear yourself?
Do you hear your saw?

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
I love that I wanted to make a T shirt
Do you hear yourself? Mind?

Speaker 9 (01:30:03):
Because it was like, hey, things, you know, only a
couple of people got raped. There are only a few murders.

Speaker 14 (01:30:09):
Now, look, we're never going to one hundred percent eradicate crime,
although there are countries that have, but they have some
really crazy laws about it, you know, cutting off the
hand of someone who steals a piece of bread. So
I understand that we're always going to have some level
of crime, but public stay like people not feeling safe
right you know, It's just insane to me. And I've

(01:30:31):
had people say to me, look, there plenty of Americans
commit crimes.

Speaker 9 (01:30:35):
Why are we so worried about illegal immigrants. Well, there
are a million ways I could go with that.

Speaker 14 (01:30:42):
What would you like to you know, yes, we have
our own issues, so why would we unnecessarily add more
from people who are not vetted that we don't know
their backgrounds, or many of them have criminal backgrounds that
we just simply let.

Speaker 9 (01:30:54):
Go of and ignored.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
I mean, to me, it's like, you know, why are.

Speaker 14 (01:30:59):
People arguing against this really common sense safety?

Speaker 9 (01:31:03):
And it's amazing.

Speaker 14 (01:31:05):
I don't know if this was some amazing mind trick
by Trump, but he has gotten Democrats to come out
in favor of crime, and that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
He's gotten him to come out in favor of boys
and girls' sports, He's gotten him to come out in
favor of I mean, all of this insane stuff. And
you think I think they're starting to get a hipped
to it now because I did see on MSNBC What
did you see? Miika Brazinski actually said this DC thing
is a trap. Don't fall for it because you're going
to be arguing that DC is safe when it might

(01:31:37):
be thirty percent safer than it was a year ago
when it was the most dangerous place in the country.
That kind of stuff I find fascinating just to watch
how any reflexive reaction is usually going to be the
wrong one. Let me ask you, what are you going
to be talking about at the Steamboat Institute's Freedom Conference.

Speaker 14 (01:31:54):
Well, I'm still working on that, but I'm really excited
to be there. I want to talk about the good,
the bad, and the ugly of a Maria today. And
you know, just my story of why this is so
meaningful to me. Do you evolve a lot in life?
And it's so funny because I feel like I sound
like my aunts and uncles used to sound back in

(01:32:14):
the day. These kids today, you know, you're too young
to understand, but it really is amazing how young people
who really haven't experienced a lot in the world to
think they have all the answers. And I think that
we have to find better ways of communicating with those
with those younger people. And we've got the access, We've got,
all the social media platforms, we've got all that there

(01:32:36):
are ways to reach them. We just got to do
it better. And so that's that's going to be one
of my one of my messages.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
You know, I tell people all the time, I, you know,
grew up I essentially was a rush Baby because my
dad would make me listen to rushlan Ba on La Car.
Then I went to college and became a total dirty
foot hippie liberal, like full on much of my father's
shock and horror.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
When I came back from college.

Speaker 5 (01:32:58):
But ultimately my rains started to kick in in a
way that I would see things.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
And I'm being told by my friends on the.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
Left that you know, black is white and white is black,
and I, luckily, I guess I had enough of a
foundation to be able to say, Okay, it doesn't make
any sense, there's no logic there. But for young people,
in my view, I tried really hard. When I'm talking
to a younger person that I know is to the
left of me, instead of telling them you're wrong and
you don't know what you're doing, I'll say to them,

(01:33:27):
let me tell you what I've lived through that you haven't,
because there's a lot of value in just saying you
just haven't been alive long enough, right, because when you're.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Young, you haven't been alive long enough to.

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
Have experienced these things. Let me tell you what I
experienced so you understand where I'm coming from. That seems
to be I've found the most effective way to just
get someone to think.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
About something, and really that's all you can hope for.
I think that think you're great.

Speaker 14 (01:33:51):
And I think the other way in addition to that
is asking them questions when they make a strong, brash
statement about you know, Trump is racist?

Speaker 9 (01:34:00):
Okay, really, why tell me how you know that?

Speaker 13 (01:34:04):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:34:05):
Let them try to answer their own questions and flesh
it out, because very often, very often they can't, and
then they realize it and and sometimes it frustrates them
because they want.

Speaker 9 (01:34:16):
To be right so badly and they really believe that
they're right.

Speaker 14 (01:34:19):
But you know, whatever the issue is that they feel
so strongly about, counter with some QUI, oh, we really
tell me about that?

Speaker 9 (01:34:27):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
Yew?

Speaker 9 (01:34:28):
Do you how do you experience that? What do you think?

Speaker 14 (01:34:30):
I saw Kimmel, Jimmy Kimmel talking on some podcasts recently,
and he was saying how this administration is so much
worse than he ever imagined, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Wanted to say, how, what is it?

Speaker 8 (01:34:42):
How?

Speaker 9 (01:34:43):
What give me specifics? What in your life is so bad?

Speaker 14 (01:34:46):
Jimmy Kimmel, You know, is it your perception or is
it the fact? And very often it's perception.

Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
Absolutely, I'm talking with Michelle Tavoya. She is going to
be one of the speakers at the Steamboat Institute's Freedom
Conference up in Deaver Creek this weekend, and there are
still tickets available. She is one of another amazing slate
of speakers that they have put together and you get
a little bit of everything. Guy Benson we spoke to yesterday,
we've got yeah, Oh, he's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
There's actually also a guy with a puppet.

Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
See now, when I come Michelle, they're like, they give
me what I like to call the hard hitting interviews.
I got to interview Kyle Berry from the Babylon b
one year, and then I was supposed to interview the
puppet guy. This is what they think of my you know,
interviewing style over this puppet guy.

Speaker 9 (01:35:30):
I need to know that would wait to see this.

Speaker 5 (01:35:32):
Roger Rowndee, creator of Ask America with Edgar. It's a
channel on the YouTube and the kids today love it,
I think. But the event is fantastic. It's going to
be this weekend, Friday and Saturday. Tickets are still available.
I put a link on the blog. Now, Michelle, let
me ask you one more question before we let you go.
Like you have kids, and what do you want to

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happen in this country when you think about your kids
growing up here.

Speaker 14 (01:36:03):
I really, really, really really want this turn towards socialism
to be averted at all costs, not at all costs,
but at reasonable costs. This candidate's like, Mom, Donnie, I
live here in Minnesota. We've got a mayoral candidate, Amama Fata,
who is basically an Islamist extremist, and he's got the

(01:36:26):
Democrat endorsement in Minneapolis. So I feel like some of
the ideology, the ideological ship is starting to turn around.
But some of these developments are really telling, and I
don't think they're going to stop with Mam Donnie and Fata,
and I think people need to start getting their courage

(01:36:47):
back to stand up to some of this stuff that
we know is antithetical to what our ideals are here.

Speaker 9 (01:36:52):
It's not a thing.

Speaker 14 (01:36:53):
It's not about being prejudiced or xenophobic. It's about do
people share our values?

Speaker 9 (01:36:58):
Period.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
I agree wholeheartedly. Michelle Tafoya. By the way, check out
what just happened to Bolivia. Socialism fails again in real
time in Bolivia where it's happening again. So I would
like to point this out. I was an early adopter
of watching Venezuela. When I first got my first show
back in two thousand and five, my program director was like,
what why are we talking about Venezuela, And I was like, cause,
we're going to watch that nation fall in real time.

(01:37:21):
We're going to live through that history because it's going
to the same thing that's gonna happen everywhere it happens.
And about ten years later, that guy who I no
longer worked with called me and said, I now understand
why you're watching Venezuela. I'm like, it's my hobby. It's great,
I do Michelle Tafoya. I'm so sad I'm not gonna
be able to meet you this weekend, but I know
you're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
Have a badful time.

Speaker 5 (01:37:40):
It's great, great to talk with you. I'd love to
do it again, absolutely, Michelle. Michelle Tafoya podcast. You can
hear on all your podcast platforms or visit Michelle tafoya
dot com. Both linked on the blog today.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
Thanks Michelle, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
That is Michelle Tafoya. She's awesome and boy, she looked great.
She didn't even know that was going to be a
zoom call and she was all made up and ready
to go look better than I do right now. And no, Texter,
I'm not gonna say go bears sort of thing that's
gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
Who's coming into Play of the Day?

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
Ryan, Ryan Edwards, Ryan, Ryan Edwards, Mandy, I agree with
you on guy with you guys on the younger folks
being uneducated and inexperienced. What are your thoughts on England
trying to lower the voting age to sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
I think they are stupid. I think that the voting.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
Age is just fine where it is. If you're old
enough to go in the military, you are old enough
to vote. But I do try that with younger people
sometimes when younger people are saying things that I know
to be.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
To be kind idiotic. Instead of saying.

Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
That's idiotic, I say, let me tell you the things
I've lived through that you have not lived through. It
will perhaps give you a better perspective, and it's actually
kind of effective. It actually is kind of effective because
you're not saying you're wrong. What you're saying is you
haven't been alive long enough to have lived through what
we've already lived through. It's like when I see a

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young person who inherently trusts anything that the Department of
Defense says.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, we already did that.
We did that a while ago and that did not
work out.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
I'm just saying anyway, now.

Speaker 5 (01:39:23):
It's time for the most exciting segment all the radio
of its kind in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
Of that day. All right, what is our dad joke
of the day, please, Anthony.

Speaker 8 (01:39:35):
I heard that by law you need to turn on
your headlights when it's raining in Sweden. The hell am
I supposed to know when it's rainy and Sweden?

Speaker 11 (01:39:46):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
That was funny. That was really funny. I can't wait
to tell that to my sweetish friend Anna. Okay, what
is our word of the day please?

Speaker 9 (01:39:52):
It's an adjective, what.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Very?

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
What's third tu?

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
No, no, no, not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
What you have tempestuous seas the waves were all, you know,
up in arms. What is What is a better way
to say that tempestuous?

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
Well, the definition of the work of help you used
to describe something that is related to or resembles a
violent storm. There you go, there we go, all synonymous
with turbulent or story.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
That's the word I was looking for. Turbulent. Okay, on average?
How many cells does the human body contain?

Speaker 8 (01:40:31):
Seven billion?

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
You have like a billion bacteria in your gut? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
Are we counting those brillion? I'm going to say a trillion.
I'm gonna say nine hundred and forty billion.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
That's my number. Give us a trillion, Ryan, do you
go ahead?

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
Scientists have estimated the human body contains between thirty and
forty trillion cells. One estimate places the number at thirty
seven point two trillions. I was going to go thirty
seven point one, but that seemed, you.

Speaker 8 (01:41:02):
Know, a little low welly prices right, rules you would.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
Have exactly one? Okay, here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:41:10):
What is our jeopardy category? Please search high and low.
So I'm going to alternate between the word high and low,
and then I'll give you a clue that has to
do with something high. You'll catch on. Okay, The first
one is high. Elevation is also known as.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
This mandy, What is altitude? Correct?

Speaker 8 (01:41:26):
Low? This ten letter word is great if before momosa
is a brunch? Not great if if before the pit
you've fallen into what read.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
That one more time? Hey, the word is low related.

Speaker 8 (01:41:40):
This letter word is great if before momosa is a
brunch not great if before the pit you've fallen into.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
When you go out for mimosas, what do you hope
that they are? What is bottom?

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Blaw?

Speaker 12 (01:41:52):
There you go?

Speaker 4 (01:41:53):
Oh, I should have said my name first. Sorry about that.
You didn't know. You're not getting that point?

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
Nope.

Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
I took a point away from bend the other day
when you didn't put it in the form of a question.

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
So I have to live by my own rules.

Speaker 12 (01:42:03):
Hey.

Speaker 8 (01:42:03):
This next one's high related as an adjective.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
It's lofty. As a verb, it means to soak like
a tea bag. Correct. Nice back. This word is low related.

Speaker 8 (01:42:15):
A good word to describe a pirate's subsurface treasure or.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
Dark hollow eyes. Read it again, a good.

Speaker 8 (01:42:29):
Word to describe a pirate's subsurface treasure or dark hollow eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
It starts with an S dark hollow Manny, what is sunken? Correct?

Speaker 9 (01:42:43):
What's the score?

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
That would be three two zero three? I didn't I
didn't dock you, yeah, because I would have point taken away.

Speaker 12 (01:42:51):
Take.

Speaker 8 (01:42:51):
This one's high related, also found on old televisions. It
means reaching far into the sky. Also no, no, Michelle.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Tafoya calls sent a football games.

Speaker 8 (01:43:05):
That camera that they use they get that really cool
shots is high definition.

Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
Dang it a oh, Ariel, duh, We're stupid, Ryan, we
should have gotten that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
Category. Yeah, that's true. What's going on if he qualifiers
and everything? Yeah, we'll have some fun today.

Speaker 8 (01:43:25):
We have a practice to react to the cults have
named the new quarterback, which of course impacts the Broncos
in week two, so we also.

Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
Lots of stuff coming and going. That's k sports. Wait wait, wait,
did you see what his nickname is already? Mister Daniel
Jones with the Colts. That's really cool, that's fantastic. What
in the in the pantheon of nicknames? That's going?

Speaker 9 (01:43:49):
Like top terrible?

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Let him have a good nick We'll be back tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:43:53):
Keep it on.