08-20-25 FULL SHOW - DA George Brauchler Is On, Plus The Affordable Arts Festival!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome, unco, Welcome to a Wednesday edition of the show.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connell.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
That guy over there across from me, across the glass,
that's Anthony Rodriguez. You can call him a Rod or
hot Rod, as.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
One of our texters suggested, because you don't love it.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
You don't love hot rod, do you? No, It's okay.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
Is every time I do it, he's like, Hey, I mean,
if you didn't already have a nickname, maybe that would
be cool. True, but you're pretty established as our a Rod.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
That's true. And I was I did not give myself
a nickname. Oh you did? No, I did not.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:03):
It kind of just happened naturally. And I may or
may not have had a conversation with a real a
Rod about me being a Rod.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Did I ever tell you that?

Speaker 7 (01:11):
Yes, when the Nuggets played the t Wolves a couple
of years ago and A Rod was right there court,
I was like, I'm never going to get this opportunity again,
and I say, hey, people call me the a rod
here and he just kind of like he was nice
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
He's like, oh, well, really nice to meet you. Yeah,
so that was kind of cool.

Speaker 7 (01:25):
So I think that was my ride of passage to
allow myself times.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
He's had that some version of that conversation with another
guy named Anthony Rodriguez, which is a fairly or Alex
Adam or any other name because everyone assumes here, Oh
it's Alex.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:44):
No, I mean that's what my brother called me when
he was a child.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah. Any anyway, let's do this.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Let's talk about what's on the blog. I got a
good show coming up today. Pretty excited about that. Have
a guest I'm excited to talk to because always like
to talk to twenty third District DA George Brockler, because
I live in Douglas County and it's amazing you guys.
I know that this is gonna sound so crazy, but
when you do this thing called enforcing the law and

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then you follow it by doing this thing called holding
people accountable, it is amazing what happens to your crime rate.
And don't get me wrong, Douglas County is not exactly
a hotbed, right, you know, we're not exactly like you know.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
South Side of Chicago with people getting murdered a lot. Nope.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
But we're gonna talk to him and maybe do a
little not a victory lap, but a check in, if
you will, a progress report with him in a little bit.
But first we're gonna go see the blog. Shall we
Let's do it together. It's easy, it's fun. Go to
mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says a
twenty twenty five blog. Da George Brockler is on plus

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the Affordable Arts Festival. Click on that, and here are
the headlines you will find within any with.

Speaker 8 (03:06):
In office South American all with ships and clipmans of s.

Speaker 9 (03:08):
That's going to press.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Plant today on the blog want to buy some amazing
yet affordable art.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Let's check in with Da.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
George Brockler about that stupid retreat for Denver City Council.
The Republicans should have their platform positions scrolling Colorado's band.
Oh wait a minute, something got messed up here on
my headlines. Uh, Colorado's ban on therapy for no, no.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Something's messed up for one of my entries that's gone.
I have to go back and look at it again. Anyway.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
A woman in Denver's looking for work. Colorado's ban on
therapy for gender dysphoria will be heard by the supremes.
Hearing loss leads to dementia. Did you hear what I said?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Here you do it?

Speaker 8 (03:52):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Here you do it? Says the legislature. Are people more
important than wolves? The good and the bad of Mile
High Stadium? If the mayor's office use layoffs to get
rid of troublemakers, Eugenics is back.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Baby, the GOP gay.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Congressman problems the case for Lauren Bobert's reelection. I don't
know who this man is, but I admire him. Did
you miss the Shrek rave? It's the k pop CPR sensation.
And Kyle Clark addresses the sale of nine News. Put
a lid on it, South stands You've got a.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
New job to do it.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Broncos games, Yes, these are red flags. What does the
cell phone band in school really do? Telsea Gabbard snatches
security clearances from people who have used them. Those are
the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
It's Tech two winner. I mean, was it though?

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Nancy. I mean, the blog itself is a winner, but
was that reading that I just did a winner? I
feel like I'm getting a participation trophy for that one.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Uh No, I'll fix what's wrong with the.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Blog on the break because there's a big headline miss
and it's part of a story. So I'll fix that
in a little bit. But as I mentioned before, we're
going to talk to George Brockler at one o'clock looking
forward to having a conversation about crime numbers in Douglas
County because we now have a DA for that district,
George Brockler, who is committed. And I know this is like, Okay,

(05:17):
if you live in Denver, what I'm going to say
to you is going to seem so crazy, so foreign,
so exotic that you may need to sit down. But
the DA for the twenty third Judicial District actually prosecutes.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Criminals who break the law. Yes, I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
And not only that, he asks for like sentences in
jail and stuff. If that's what you know, they should get.
He's not trying to make it easier for criminals to
do crime in the twenty third And guess what it
seems to be working on are the things that I
find the most remarkable about what's going on in Washington,
DC with the Federal Guard, I mean the National Guard

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and all those. As a matter of fact, I open
up X on my screen here and.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Wolf Splitzer has posted.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Sent out a picture and it's of a military vehicle.
I don't know my military vehicles, you guys, I don't
know what it is. It's one of the it's not
one of the scarier looking military vehicles. It looks like
a troop transport vehicle to me of some sort, not huge,
you know, just your average smallish troop transport whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
It is, not scary. He's like, this is what I
thought today on the National Mall. Now it's interesting because
when wolf.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Flitzer looks at that case's danger, he sees a situation
where he believes that Donald Trump is going to command
those National Guard troops to start firing on people like
Wolf Blitzer, and they're gonna have no choice but to
have to do it because they're under the command of
a dictator in Donald Trump. When I look at that,

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you know what I see, I see, Thank God, they're
finally doing something to clean up our capital city. Because
if there's anywhere in the country, that we should have
a bubble that we as any American citizen from any
walk of life should be able to walk around Washington,
DC and enjoy all that it has to offer in

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the terms of our history and all the museums and
the monuments and all of they should be able to
soak in our history day or night, without having to
worry about getting carjacked. Oh, without having to worry about
getting shot or accosted by a mentally ill, homeless person
or you know, have their little children see a naked

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man in a fountain taking a very vigorous bath, as
I saw with a bunch of kids when we were there.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
That's what I see.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
It's just fascinating to see how differently this is all
being viewed.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Now, don't get me wrong, you guys. I have a limit, right.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Like, if there is any indication that Donald Trump is
trying to have some kind of coup using the National Guard,
I will be at the front line marching with you.
So I have a limit on this stuff. But if
he's doing what he says he's going to do, which
is clean up crime in DC in the areas where
we really.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Want to go, that's great.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
I'd love to see him expand what he's doing in
the center of DC out to the communities that are really, really,
really the crime written communities where all of the lower
middle class people live. That would be lovely. But watching
Democrats freak out about this, I am believing more and
more certainly. I mean, I thought about it when it

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first started happening, and then I was like, you know what,
that just makes too much sense to discard the notion,
and that is I really think the Democrats are getting
increasingly frightened that this is going to work. That flooding
the zone with people in authority, flooding the zone with
cops and backing them up with National Guard and Border
patrol and other people, you can actually stem the tide

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when it comes to crime.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Because we've been we've been lulled into the notion that
there is a certain acceptable.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Amount of crime. And don't get me wrong, I'm not Pollyanna.
I know that we are never going to fully solve
the issue of crime because there are always going to
be people who feel like they have no other option,
or who enjoy ripping other people off, or.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Whatever it is. Right, We're always going to have some crime,
But the levels that crime sits.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
In places like Washington, DC, and in places like Memphis, Tennessee,
and in places where they have these incredibly.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
High murder rates. Why is that ever acceptable?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Why have we all just decided, oh, crime has dropped
thirty percent in DC, it's still obscenely high, obscenely high.
And yet people are arguing as if, well, it's down
from record levels, so it's you know, it's down thirty percent,
and the other seventy percent we've just decided is okay.

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This is one of the things that makes me worry
about society overall, because we have we are so far
down the post modern rabbit hole of there is no
right or wrong, There is no morality, there is no God,
there is no this, there is no that that we're
now accepting things that in a civilized society are unacceptable.

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So when we talk about stuff and I saw a story,
I didn't put it on the blog today, but I
saw it. I should have put it on the blog
because it makes perfect sense in this conversation, and it's
how our society has just gotten ruder and more coarse.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
And I agree one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
I mean, you listen to the songs on the radio
right now that are on pop music.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
You know, you guys.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
I will never forget the day that I realized what
the song Afternoon to Light was about.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Okay, so my entire childhood we sang Afternoon to Light
because it's a great song. The harmonies are great.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
You know, it's uh after noon la, and everybody sang
along and you didn't really think about it. I was
like twenty five years old, an Afternoon Light comes on
the radio and I'm singing it, and I what, Oh
my god, they're talking about sex.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Because they just you know, they hit it. They kind
of they couched it.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
In other terms, Skyrockets and Flight come on Afternoon to Light.
Oh yeah, no clue as a kid when I was
singing about and no one stopped me because really it
was not that bad. And now the songs that you
heard on the radio. And my daughter loves some of
these artists, but there's this trend now of young female
artists just hyper sexualizing in their songs and their their

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love and it just kind of makes me sad because
they bought into the feminist narrative that somehow being crass
and rude and overly sexualizing yourself is somehow about female empowerment,
and now they're spreading that message to another generation of

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young women. And I'm not approved by any stretch of
the imagination. I've done some really dumb stuff in my life.
But the reality is is that the older I've gotten,
the more you realize that all of that stuff is
just a bunch of dudes getting their way. No offense, guys,
I'm not mad at you. I'm just saying you're wired differently,

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very sneaky, very well done.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I will give that to you on that one. So
there you go. Anyway. I don't even know how I
got there. Oh, it's talking about George Brockler. He's coming
up at one to talk about Douglas County. All right,
here we go.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Let me give a d on the Denver City Council
retreat that we spoke of yesterday. You know, the glorious
retreat up in Park County where.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
They were going to go to a resort that has
oxygenated rooms, a yoga space, and a fitness studio. But
they have good facilities.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
For people who have disabilities, like one of their city
council members who uses a wheelchair.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
But it was going to be twenty six.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Thousand dollars and they were supposed to go this week,
the same week that Denver employees were being laid off.
Now a MANJI stand of all the president of the
Denver City Council, and I should I say something about
her voice? Should I just let it go? I shouldn't
say anything about her voice. Sounds like someone I would

(13:48):
not trust. Very tentative, and yesterday she tried to justify
it that even in times of turmoil, the city council
needed to learn how to work better together. I think
after she saw it, and I think Brian Moss was
very very fair to her. As a matter of fact,
I think maybe it was a little tiny bit too soft.
But I don't know what the rest of the interview was,

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but I think that the city councilors saw that and went, oh, crap,
just crap.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
There's no way to unring that.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
So now, to everybody's delight, they have postponed their retreat
and they're trying to.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Work with the vendor.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
By the way, the vendor cannot be happy about the
bad press they're getting because I know yesterday I'm like,
how do you sign a non cancelable contract three months
before an event?

Speaker 4 (14:42):
You know, how do you do that? What is that?

Speaker 5 (14:44):
What kind of cancelation policy do you have? So they're
getting a lot of crap. So I'm guessing they're going
to end up refunding the money to the city. I
would if I was a business owner, I would have
already cut that check. I would have already like as
soon as they asked, oh, yep, there you go, take
your money back. I'm just saying, Mandy, you think your
voice is any better from the inside, it feels better.

(15:09):
I think it sounds probably the same, Mandy. Don't forget
how oppressive the Christmas song baby It's Cold Outside is.
I disagree, And I realize it's not Christmas Carol discussion time.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yet, but let me just make this point.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
The song baby It's Cold Outside is not about a
man being creepy or rape. It's about a woman who
has no agency in her life. She doesn't have the
ability in her mind to make the.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Choice to stay later, and so she has to throw
up all these excuses of all the people that are
gonna be worried about her, you know, purity if she
doesn't come right home, and then she finally's like, oh,
I'll stay for another cigarette. It's fine. I mean, the
kerfuffle over that song is so stupid, so incredibly stupid.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Mandy tough on crime is like the war on drugs.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I'm so obvious at first.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Then you realize the cost of law enforcement, incarceration, court costs,
and all these people with records can't get jobs anymore.
Then it doesn't seem so smart anymore. What's the alternative, Texter?

Speaker 4 (16:13):
What we have now?

Speaker 5 (16:15):
People getting murdered on a regular basis in downtown Denver.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
You know, two and a half people.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
A day in Washington, DC getting violently carjacked. So in
your situation, it's like, well, we're not going to be
able to fix it perfectly, and it's going to cost
us a lot of money, so we shouldn't do it.
I'm one of those people that believes one of the
fundamental roles of government, and I believe those roles to
be very very small. Okay, there's for me a handful.

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One of them is public safety. One of them is
maintaining a public environment where people have a reasonable expectation
of not being murdered. I don't think that's too much
to ask. I don't think if I choose to drive
my car to Washington, d C. I should have to
genuinely think to myself, Wow, I hope I don't get

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Karjack today. Let me think of my anti carjacking strategy.
That's one of the most fundamental roles of government, that
and taking care of our roadways. I'm just saying, so, yeah,
I know what you're saying. I appreciate it, but I'd

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rather air on the side of law abiding citizens than
anything else because it's just not okay anymore. It's not okay,
not even a little bit, Mandy. I missed the good
old days of less offensive groups like Two Live Crew.
Oh yeah, remember when they were outrageous?

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Happy National Radio Day, y'all? Is it National Radio Day?
I saw that today. I think there's multiple. I think
the official official one is February. I think you're right,
but I'm gonna find out right now there are some
people celebrating it.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Tuesday, February twenty twenty five World Radio Day. Also February thirteenth,
National Radio Day August twentieth.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Okay, I don't know. We're at the point nowur multiple
yeah day, by the way, like people, can people pay
for those days?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
That?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
When I found that out, I was just kind of
like what very disappointing. I mean, we can.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Celebrate, I throw I posted a twelve year old radio
throwback today just in case.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Nice picture online woof when we get back. But it's
nice to see how far you've come.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
Man, as someone a good, good, good buddy of mine
just said, glow up.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Colorado's ban on therapy for gender disport kids is going
to be heard by the Supremes. I'll tell you about
that next. We've got some things on the blog today
that I want to get into. And then at the
top of the hour, I am going to listen to
you know what, No, let's listen to it together.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Rob Dawson sent me some audio and we'll hang on
one second. We'll set it up. You and I are
hearing it at the same time.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Because over the last couple of days, we found out
one hundred and seventy one actual employees are being laid
off as part of the Denver downsizing. Another hundreds of
positions are just not being filled. But one hundred and
seventy one real people actually lost their jobs, we found
out yesterday. One of them was the husband of Denver

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City council member Stacy Gilmore, and she accused the mayor
of vindictively firing her husband because she has been critical
of the mayor in the past. So that leads us
to this sound bite, which is apparently Stacy Gilmore on
Colorado's Morning News. Let's see what she has to.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Say, and we're mobilizing, and I am going to be
front and center. I don't believe this mayor deserves another term.
I hope that there are plenty of people that come
out and challenge him because he has decimated the city budget.
Never run through your rainy day fund, your contingency fund.

(20:06):
He has been so hyper focused on being a white
savior to Denver and fixing homeless We're warehousing homeless people,
people are overdosing. We are retraumatizing people in those hotels
because we're allowing them to smoke drugs. We're allowing people

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to be in unsafe positions. And I think that's indicative
of where the Salvation Army recently said no more, we
cannot do this. And so he's showing left and right
how he is severing long time relationships for his dreams
of grant.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
I have me a new favorite Denver City Council member.
And her name is Stacy Gilmore.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Wow, wow, wow, that's kind of a lot.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Thank you Rob Dawson for making sure I got that
sound bite. Now, we also have a second story about
people that were laid off and lost their jobs. This
one about a woman who has a lawsuit pending against
the City of Denver and she was fired. So it's like,

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what are we doing. Jessica called her own no relation
to Lisa Calderon, although she comes up in this story, so.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
I feel like I have to lay that out.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
She sued on June third, for She sued the office
of the Mayor and her former boss, Denver Chief Equity Officer,
Ben Sanders. She cited political retaliation in violation of the
First Amendment and sex discrimination. She alleges that she has
denied promotions that were given to male colleagues, and that

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Sanders repeatedly confronted her about her connection to Latino's United
Neighbors Association and it's founder Lisa Calderon, who ran against
Johnston in the twenty twenty three mayoral race. And again
the two women are not related. But now she's saying
this is clearly retaliation. And there's two things that I

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can see in this situation.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
The first is this is.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Probably why most city or governmental organizations choose to do
a seniority based layoff, because now you have two people
that I think can make an argument that, wait, you
know what, we might have been discriminated against. So what
happens next? Do they sue again? In the case of

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Jessica Calderone, what do you do there? And how difficult
would that be to prove? This is the problem. You
have to get people willing to talk about stuff and
people who know things that are willing to talk about stuff.
And that's a problem. But Stacy Gilmore just came out
just rhetorical guns of blows.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Good for you, Stacy Gilmore, Good for you. Anyway.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Let me get to the story about the Supreme Court
hearing our ban on quote conversion therapy. I take issue
with the law that we have here in Colorado that
tells therapists that when a child comes to them and
says I think I am the opposite gender, the therapist's
only only course of action is to say, well, of
course you are.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
What do you want me to call you?

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Now?

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Affirmation is the only approved form of therapy in the
state of Colorado, and if a therapist says to a child, well,
let's talk about that. Let's talk about why you feel
this way. In an effort to help them reconcile with
their born gender so they can avoid a lifetime of medicalization.

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That therapist can face significant, significant repercussion. This case is
the case of Childs versus Salazar. It focuses on a
twenty nineteen state law. This is from our friends at
Fox thirty one banning conversion therapy for minors. Kayleie Chiles,
a licensed professional counselor from Colorado Springs, is suing the
executive director of Colorado's Department of Regulatory Agencies, Patty Cells.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Are alleging Colorado law.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Unfairly restricts Child's First Amendment rights. The lawsuit says, when
Childs counsels young people with gender dysphoria, Colorado allows her
to speak if she helps them embrace a tries changed
gender identity. But if those clients choose to align their
sense of identity with their sex by growing comfortable with
their bodies, Childs must remain silent or risk losing her license,

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her livelihood, and the career that she loves. The brief
goes on to question whether a law that sensors certain
conversations between counselors and their clients based on the viewpoints expressed,
regulates conduct, or violates the free speech clause. More importantly,
I think this is compelled speech. I think the government

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is telling therapists you have one of option. You have
one option, and that option is affirm these kids. Now,
the phrase conversion therapy is where I draw a line, and.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
It really is.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
It's being used because traditionally conversion therapy has been parents
sending their gay children to usually religious based places to
basically have the gay in some cases beaten out of them.
Now that's not all conversion therapy programs. They don't all
use physical violence, but there's been a lot of documented

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physical violence at some of these places. So conversion therapy
to change gay people into straight people. By the way,
I don't know if it's most, but a lot of
the people who used to formally advocate for conversion therapy
are now happily homosexual. Okay, So calling this conversion therapy
is one thing. I mean, you'd think that giving a

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child medications so they can pretend to be another gender
is conversion therapy. This is simply talking to kids and
helping them work through their genderness for you, because if
you just leave kids alone, and studies have shown this,
if you just leave kids alone, you don't affirm them socially.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
You just leave them alone.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Eighty percent of kids will come to terms and be like, oh, okay,
yeah I'm a girl or yeah I'm a boy. You know,
but therapists in Colorado are not allowed to do that.
This is absolutely crazy. I can't wait to hear our
Attorney General argue that controlling the speech of therapists inside
the therapy room is the function of government. I can't

(26:36):
wait to hear how this goes so by conflating it,
by the way, with conversion therapy, they're doing that on purpose,
even though it's totally different, completely different, and they know it.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
We'll be right back. This is interesting.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Somebody said, Mandy, I think it's time for a mayoral recall.
I wish I knew how to start such things. And again,
I guess he's no worse than Polis. Talking about Mayor
Mike Johnston and his white savior complex, as city councilor,
Stacy Gilmore said.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
I will tell you I love.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
I love the passion of people who think you know,
we've got to do something.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
We've got A recall is the answer, you guys. A
recall should be.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Used when someone does something so egregious that there's no
other option.

Speaker 10 (27:24):
Right.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
It takes a tremendous amount of resources and energy, and
I would much rather spend that energy finding a candidate.
And I don't think a Republican is going to win
in the city of Denver, so let's just.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Put that to the side. It just would have to
be the.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Most perfect Republican in the history of Republicans, and I
still don't see it happening. So let's just say the
best case scenario would be one of two things. A
truly centrist Democrat. I don't know if any exists in Denver.
I liked Kelly Bruff in the mayor's a race before,
but she was definitely a really liable liberal. But she

(28:01):
was a business minded liberal, so okay, that made her
much more attractive than Mayor Mike Johnston for me in
the primary. Someone like Kelly who could make the argument
that you know, focusing like he has on making sure
that everybody else thinks that we're welcoming while allowing sort

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of things to fall apart in downtown Denver. I would
think the right kind of independent could win in Denver,
And the right kind of independent would be someone who
has enough success under their belt in business, in life, whatever,
that you could win over the tech independence left leaning independence,

(28:46):
and I mean most of the independence in Colorado are
left leaning, not all, but most of them are. So
you'd have to find the right kind of independent, but
somebody who's probably socially more liberal than Republicans would like.
But Denver is not ever going to elect anyone who's
remotely socially conservative.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
It's just not gonna happen. So let's be real.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
I mean, I'd love to start talking and finding those candidates.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Somebody's gonna have to step up.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
And one of the things I like about the Trump
presidency is disabuses the notion that you have to be
in politics for a long time to do things like
become mayor of the city.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
You really don't.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
And I mean I think Americans would do well to
sort of reject the notion that somehow, you know, knowing
how the sausage is made is going to make you
more effective at making the sausage, because.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I just don't see that at all.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
One of the things that's been really refreshing with Trump
in this term especially is the way he's kind of
crapped all over political norms, and political norms obviously are
not effective, or we'd be further along in some of
these areas than we are. So I understand the the
you know, the let's do something, let's recall the mayor.

(29:59):
But the reality is you still have to feeld somebody
to run against him in a recall. You got to
have another candidate, so let's focus on that. And he's
run out of money. The city council is very done
with him right now, so he's gonna I think we're
gonna see his wings get clipped just a little bit
in terms of him just being able to ask for

(30:20):
a blank check like he did for the first two years.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
What Democrats don't like is when their candidate f's everything up, got.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
News for you, The next one you vote for will
do the same.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Generally speaking, I don't vote for Democrats, not because I
have anything, you know, like, I'm not like a yellow
dog Democrat who would vote for a yellow dog rather
than vote for anybody else. But at this part, this
portion of life, the Democratic Party is so far away
from anything that I that I would want to be

(30:54):
a part of. I just I don't want to be
a part of that. Well, I'm now I'm not a
part of anything. I'm still a registered independent and I
like it here.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
It's nice, isn't Stacy.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Gilmore complicit in the terrible shape the city of Denver
is in?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Now?

Speaker 5 (31:09):
She chooses to blast the mayor. Obviously the pot is
calling the kettle black. That from Rico. I already sent
this back to Rico. Hey, Rico, she's seeing the light.
I'll be happy to hold the flashlight for her.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
You know, if.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Somebody is starting to get hip to what I have
been talking about now for three years, I welcome you
to the party, whoever you are, and I just mean
a party party, not like a political party. This textter said,
I've known Jessica, called her on for years, and she's
always been a typical cry baby looking for something out
of nothing. That is a personality assessment. I can neither

(31:41):
confirm nor deny. I've never been around her. I don't
know her. I don't know anything about her. So to
anonymous text. That is from an anonymous text. So there
you go, all right, you guys coming up next the
district Attorney for the twenty third Judicial District, George Brock's on.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
We're gonna talk about.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
What happens when you do this crazy thing, when you
enforce the law.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
And then you hold people accountable. I know, right crazy.

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Speaker 4 (32:32):
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Speaker 5 (32:36):
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Speaker 4 (32:54):
It's wild.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
What's happening in the twenty third Congressional District or the
judicial district?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Wild.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
They have laws and they're on the books, and then
people come and they break the laws, and then we
arrest them. And I say we because I live in
the twenty third Judicial District. And then this insane thing happens.
The district attorney actually prosecutes people and if they commit
a bad enough crime, he puts them in jail. It's

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crazy if you live in Denver, but I don't. I
live in the twenty third Congressional District, where my next guest,
George Brockler, is the guy doing those things. George, is
it cool to work in a place where other people
around you want you to actually enforce the law?

Speaker 10 (33:38):
The support is ridiculous. And I have to believe that
some of the.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
Other prosecutors in the metro area feel like I do
about crime and what they want to do, but they
are tamped down by the politics.

Speaker 10 (33:53):
Of the area.

Speaker 9 (33:54):
I mean, if you look at a Rapahoe, jeff Co, Denver, Adams,
they're all blue Blue lou counties and they have.

Speaker 10 (34:02):
To navigate things like arm reduction, and what about what
do we do with the illegal immigrants?

Speaker 9 (34:09):
And should we put them in a position that they
can be deported? And what if they're convicted? And who
else can we blame for society's ills? That just isn't
us down here. It's very straightforward. It's something I live here.
I've been in this county for almost thirty years. I
still have two kids under my roof in public school here,
so this place matters to me, and we just happen

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to be in a place where everybody is like, right,
we think we're freer if we're safer, and we think
that holding people accountable for violations and the laws the
way to do it. And I happen to be in
agreement with that.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
I do too. I got to tell you, I got
super mad. I'm going to just share this with you.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
I am in a large sort of you know, one
of those sort of Target Walmart variety type stores.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
It was neither of those.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
It was a different store, and two of the clerks
behind the car counter we're talking about, they had watched
someone shoplift a lot of stuff and there was nothing
they could do.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I said, did you call the police? This is in
Douglas County.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
She goes, no, we're told by corporate not I said,
and let them know. In Douglas County they will show up.
And that's the difference, right, I mean, because even just
enforcing those little things, I will never forget the video,
and I think it was Parker PD that was put
out of a guy getting arrested for something and as
he's getting arrested, he's on body camp footage just saying, God,
they don't.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Even they don't even put the cuffs on in Denver, Like, God,
this sucks.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
This only happens in Douglas County. And I was like,
right on, dudes, spread spread the word to your friends,
because ultimately, let's talk about some statistics you guys just
talked about earlier this month. One of the statistics that
jumped out at me sort of but not really, because
I think everyone in Douglas County is nice.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Our criminals are not from here, As they say, where
are they coming from?

Speaker 9 (35:54):
Well, that's a great question. The bulk of the out
of town criminals and I would say that about fifty
percent or more of the crime committed down here, of
all kinds in Douglas County, it's committed by people who
don't call our place home. And the biggest contributor to
that number is Denver. They represent twenty five percent of

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that number. Auroras in second at about nineteen percent.

Speaker 10 (36:19):
And then you see some of the other.

Speaker 9 (36:20):
Cities in Arapahoe County, the Littleton's, the Inglewoods contributing other
lesser numbers. But it's a significant amount of crime that
happens down here. And if you look at the property
crime in particular, because there are some crimes that are
more homegrown. Domestic violence, crimes against children, homicides tend to

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be things that come out of a community, and our.

Speaker 10 (36:43):
Numbers are very good on that. The property crimes.

Speaker 9 (36:46):
People come here to be theft tourists, for sure. And
one of the ways we're going to tackle that is
I came out and pledged early on we are going
to arrest every single thief.

Speaker 10 (36:58):
You may spend only one night in jail.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
That's up to a judge, not to us, because we're
going to lock you up and remind you that if
you're bound to commit a crime, and.

Speaker 10 (37:06):
I hope you don't, right, you should go do it
somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
And that I absolutely love. There was a little town
in Georgia when I was a kid that had a
similar situation where they were on an interstate, so people
would kind of stop by, steal stuff, rob things, whatever,
and they passed a little ordnance in their town that
required everyone to learn how to carry a firearm.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
And I mean it was a small town, and then.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
They put up big old billboards that said it is
a law in this town that everyone is armed, just
to let you know where you're going. Amazingly, crime stopped
in the little town on the interstate.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
It was just went away.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
There was like nothing else happened. And that's why I
wanted to have you on the show, and for two reasons.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Really.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
I want to talk to something you said at the
beginning of this interview, and that is that you know,
district attorneys in other counties don't have the sort of
support you have down there because you've got a bunch
of sheriffs and police chiefs and law enforcement officers that
are that are that have your back and are excited
that you have their back as well. I have to say,
I'm sure you saw the guy in Washington, d c.

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Who hit a border patrol agent with his subway sandwich
after an extended fit of screaming in the face of
this guy that he was a fascist in all of
this stuff, and then come to find out this dude
is a trial attorney for the Department of Justice.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
If that is not sort of.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
A little window into what you're talking about, I don't
know what is. So how do we get people in
these offices, not even like an elected office like you're in.
How do you get employees in these offices who are
committed to upholding the law.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
How does that how do you change that culture?

Speaker 10 (38:48):
You know, that's a great question one.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
And I can't take one hundred percent credit for this,
because the community sells itself. As you know, you're down here,
and I think that people listening in Colorado and beyonda
to know the heads of our federal agencies out here, FBIDA,
ATF those guys in gals and their number two's almost
you universally choose Douglas County.

Speaker 10 (39:10):
To live here.

Speaker 9 (39:10):
So we already have a reputation of being very pro
law enforcement and safe. And so you have that, and
then you come in with a guy who's willing to
come forward, not only answer hard questions, but tackle the
mythology about punishment and crime, and pretty soon you start
attracting people to apply to your office who are like,
I want to be a crime fighter.

Speaker 10 (39:30):
I want to be a justice seeker.

Speaker 9 (39:31):
I don't want to be in the business of just
being a social worker with a law degree, like I
want to actually do stuff, And you start to develop
that It doesn't mean you can't make mistakes.

Speaker 10 (39:40):
But when I saw that story, I was like, give
me a break.

Speaker 9 (39:43):
And for anyone out there thinking what would we do here?

Speaker 10 (39:46):
I don't know the class charge, but there's.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
No question I would support a prosecution of that guy,
no question.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
I mean it was so outrageous but also incredibly sad.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
I mean that guy needs help.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
He doesn't need he needs help, and he also needs
to face the consequences for his actions. Let me ask
you specifically, where have we seen where are our crime
rates in Douglas County growing up going down? Where have
we seen the biggest increases, the biggest decreases.

Speaker 9 (40:12):
Well overall, we're seeing a decrease, and I'll give you
a couple examples that you know. Look, I'm not a
social scientist, but I noted that I can tell you
that in the seven ish eight months here that we're approaching,
that we've been doing this sort of approach to law enforcement,
which is come down here and victimize us and plan
on staying that. We've seen some good numbers. I'll give

(40:34):
you an example motor vehicle theft. Last year, before I
took over, the arrest rate, the incarceration rate for motor
vehicle theft was about two thirds okay, and we still
saw a slight.

Speaker 10 (40:47):
Decrease, so about nine percent.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
This year, it's one hundred percent incarceration rate, and we've
already seen we're on pace for a reduction I think
of another twenty five percent, So we're seeing crime. I
reached out to Loan Tree, Parker, Castle Rock if there's
any blips up. There are blips that I don't attribute
as much to an increase in crime as an increased

(41:09):
pursuit of crime. You brought up the fact that you
were in a store we held and when I say we,
I mean the sheriff, all three chiefs of police and
me got together like the fifteen to twenty biggest retailers
in Douglas County and sat down and had the conversation
you talked about, which was, Hey, whatever you were doing
in the past, leave it in the past. You call us,
cops are going to come out, and the cops are

(41:30):
going to come out, and when they make an arrest,
you're going to get a guy that's going to have
his team prosecute them. And we've already started to see
more interaction between some of those like the outlet stores
that had been doing nothing and just treating it like
it's a cost of business. We've seen more communication from
them with Castle Rock PD and in Loan Tree with
park meadows than we'd had previously maybe ever.

Speaker 10 (41:53):
And so this is actually working, and this is why
we're seeing our numbers coming down well.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
And I want to talk about another experience that I
did have the Walmart.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
This actually did happen at Walmart. I'm coming out of
Walmart and there are like five cop cars.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
They're surrounded this other car where they were loading a
bunch they were in the process. Two women are in
the process of loading a bunch of laundry detergent, right,
so they're stealing the laundry detergent. So the cops are
there and everything, and I was like, I walked by,
I was like, yeah, I gave them the old you know,
big fist up or whatever, and the cops kind of
looked and laughed, you know, over at me. But it
was so nice.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Because all of those costs get passed on to all consumers, Right,
we're all paying for that theft.

Speaker 10 (42:30):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Do you think that?

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Because and I was actually told by a different police officer,
they believe that those kind of shoplifting situations, those women
are part of a much bigger ring of shoplifters. Right,
They're not just coming in on their own so what
impact does that have on keeping those rings out of
Douglas County. I mean they don't want their people to
get arrested.

Speaker 10 (42:51):
Well, I think the.

Speaker 9 (42:52):
Message carries more more weight than we can really quantify.

Speaker 10 (42:58):
And I say that crimminals don't know the.

Speaker 9 (43:01):
Exact law, but they know how the law works and
where it works. And so you know, the message, in
part from the very beginning, has been we are going
whether you're a shoplifter of one item or part of
a bigger ring, we're here to hold you accountable. We
just got and you talked about all the partners that
support us. I don't want to leave out the county commissioners.

(43:21):
These are the guys that have the purse strings that
allow us to do things like and this is what
we've done. We now have a standalone senior prosecutor who
does economic crime and elder abuse crime.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
How wonderful.

Speaker 10 (43:33):
And so we're going.

Speaker 9 (43:34):
To start pursuing these rings, working our way up the chain,
much like you would with a drug trafficking organization. And
we're going to pursue these people for things called coca.
It's if people are listening, It's like our state's version
of RICO, Like an organized crime statute, and we're going
to start tuning these people up. And I don't think
we're going to have to do it at the same
pace and level for the next four to eight years

(43:56):
that I'm here, because after the first couple and the
word gets spread out there, people are gonna say, I
think I'll just stay in Denver, And that's fine with me.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
That's like my mom was a longtime teacher, and or
the piece of advice she always gave to new teachers
is be mean on the first day. You can always
get nicer, but you can't get tougher. So you're just
being mean on the first day.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Teacher George Brockler, not really teacher, District attorney of the
twenty third Judicial District, George Brocklers, who's joining me.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I just got a question, and I don't know I'm
gonna ask you.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
Will you ask George about that stupid TikTok trend where
kids are putting their foot into your front door.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
What can you do as the homeowner? Do you know
what they're talking about?

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Basically, like these kids are knocking and then when people open,
they shove their foot into the door, so you can't
close it. Now, If that's me, I'm gonna break somebody's
leg off closing that door on there. This just never
ceases to amaze me how stupid kids can be.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Have you seen this at all?

Speaker 9 (44:55):
No, but my gut tells me once again for reasons
we talked about previous the off air, and that is
we are a vigorous Second Amendment supporting county out here.

Speaker 10 (45:06):
I think that's a mistake, and I think it's a risk.

Speaker 9 (45:09):
I'm not telling you that sticking your foot in the
door buys you some sort of gunplay. I'm just telling
you that's a reality down here that could happen.

Speaker 10 (45:16):
Why would you ever take that risk?

Speaker 9 (45:18):
That act in and of itself is a trespass right.
It's a non consensual entrance into that house, even if
it's just the foot. Now, we've done a lot to
water down our juvenile justice laws in a way that
I don't think makes us safer. But it's not like
they're nonexistent. It's not like we're just gonna hug it out.
You can be arrested, you can be brought in, and
then mom and dad are going to start throwing out

(45:39):
money towards attorneys to try to figure out a way
to keep you from ruining your life over a stupid joke.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
Da George Brockler, if you've got your next campaign, flow again,
George Brockler, We're not going to hug it out.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I think that'll that'll be it. Uh.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
The last question I have for you, and it really
has to do with crime overall. And I kind of
mentioned this earlier in the show, the conversations about what's
happening in Washington, DC right now. To me, it is
the most distressing part of the entire conversation is that
you have Washington, DC, which last year was the most

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violent city in the country, murders, carjackings, violent crime, crimes
against persons, crimes against property, most violent city in the country.
So you have the president bringing the National Guard and
he says he's going to clean things up. And the
argument being made by people against this is, hey, crime
is down thirty percent.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
What are you doing? What are you worried about? Crime
is down thirty percent?

Speaker 5 (46:39):
So that means the seventy percent of crime that it's
still happening for some reason in some people's heads, is okay.
And it's almost like we boiled the frog to make
us think that it is okay that seventy percent of
that crime is still going to exist as long as
it's down thirty percent up to this point. What's your
take on that? I mean, should people expect to feel

(46:59):
safe in their community?

Speaker 10 (47:02):
Oh, one hundred percent?

Speaker 9 (47:03):
I mean, listen, government does way too much right now
at every level, but one of its core functions is
to protect the citizenry, right like public state in for
the federal government at the national level, to protect the country.
That's the core competency. And when you're failing at that
at the local level, especially if you're a federal enclave
like DC is, you should expect someone to show up

(47:25):
and do something. I am taken as you are with
the argument that, hey, someone who has cancer throughout their
body is told, hey, your hand is cancer free. I
mean so, I mean you know what I mean, you're
looking for cancer free everywhere, right, Like, this argument is nonsense.
And now what we're starting to hear is maybe they're
cooking the books, right Like, you're starting to see these

(47:48):
stories about maybe when they were being called out on
things that might have been classified as violent crime or
something else, they were classified as I don't know, aggressive jaywalking.
I don't know what they were doing, but they were
changing some of the numbers. I don't think this could
be replicated anywhere else because I don't think the federal
government has the ability to deploy the National Guard and
certainly not the title ten federal troops anywhere else for

(48:09):
this purpose.

Speaker 10 (48:10):
But in DC.

Speaker 9 (48:11):
Look, when the violent crime capital of your country is
the capital of your country, it's not a good look, correct,
something that you got to tackle well.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
I actually think that a lot of people, I think
a lot of Democrats are very afraid that it is
going to work, because then it sort of dispels the
notion that nothing can be done right, that this is
just the price of living in a big city whenever
anything goes south. And I'm going to use Denver as
a perfect example of this. When I moved here. I've
only been here since twenty thirteen, but I feel like
I've seen the entire arc, right.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
I used to tell people how clean.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Denver was, how friendly everybody was, how safe I felt
in Denver. So since then, in twelve years, I've kind
of watched it fall apart. And yet Mayor Michael Hancock
said it, Mayor Mike Johnston says it, Well, these are
the same problems they have in other big cities. I
like to remind them other big Democrat runs, because I
think that's an important.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Part of this piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
But I, for one, am HAPPI you're down on the
twenty third and doing what you're doing, and keep up
the good work, and let everybody in your office know.
I sure appreciate them coming to support the endeavor as well.

Speaker 10 (49:15):
Oh they'll like to hear that. Thanks for having us
on to talk about it.

Speaker 9 (49:18):
And we're going to continue to have cases that are
going to be worth letting folks know about so that
they know not to come down here if they're inclined
to commit crimes.

Speaker 10 (49:25):
So if you're willing to talk about them, so are
we all right?

Speaker 4 (49:27):
George? That's George Brockler. We'll talk to you again, Sue,
my friend, see it all right? That is George Brockler.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
You know, I was at Disneyland with my family years
ago and I'm walking through. I don't even remember where
we were, and I look over and I got George.
And George Brockler also at disney World with his family
the exact same time. So anyway, George should be the
next attorney general. I would love to see George run
for attorney general, but I don't. It's obviously he's not

(49:53):
ready to talk about that. Texter said, what if a
cop does that? I don't know what that means. I
don't know what you were referring to.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Is there any law that.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Requires retailers to report retail theft instead of just dismissing it.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
No, there is not.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
And most all retail establishments have a loss line, you know,
and it's part of their budget. They just budget X
amount of dollars every year because people are gonna steal
from them, which is such a sad commentary. And for
the longest time, though they would call in, no one,

(50:33):
no one would you know, show up. So anyway, Mandy,
I'm convinced that public transportation facilitates crime in nicer places.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
One hundred percent. One hundred percent. Ooh, some teenagers in
Cheyenne got a gun in their face from that TikTok
trend a couple of weeks ago. Oh, he's probably referring
to the foot in the door with the cop.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Let me tell you something. Somebody puts a foot in
my door. I am going to break that thing off.
I'm gonna slam that door with every fiber of my
being and then I'll just have their foot in my
foyer and the whole thing on an s camera. So
there you go. Anyway, Coming up next, I have a

(51:21):
story that is just really disheartening about where we are
when it comes to anti Semitism in this country, but
it has a happy ending with someone looking for work
right here in Denver. I'll share that next, keep it
right here on KOA. I am with Bethany Mandel on this.
Bethany Mandel is a writer, she is a pundit. She's

(51:44):
also a Jewish mother. Bethany's kids went to a Jewish
summer camp, and this particular summer camp had fundraised for
so they had the ability to bring some children from
Israel and some Israeli younger people to come into counselors

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at this camp this summer to get them out of
the war and give them a chance to sort of,
you know, just have some normalcy for a few minutes.
So on the last Friday before the session ended, and
this is from the New York Post, Bethany Mandel wrote
this column, the kids and staff experienced a scare that
revealed just how fragile Jewish life in America has become.

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During a livestream ceremony, paragliders appeared over the campus. They
swooped low, and panic rippled through the crowd. For most
American campers, it was just confusing. For the Israeli staff
and campers, many of them children directly impacted by the
October Sabbath terror attacks near Gaza, the site was terrifying.

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Paragliders were hal hamas terrorists descended that morning to murder, rape,
and kidnap. The sound of their motors and the image
of their canopies were burned into memory. The camp At
fundraised to bring dozens of these traumatized Israeli children to
safety for the summer. For them, seeing paragliders overhead was
not a quirky air show, It was the beginning of
another attack. Staff acted instantly, State police recalled, the children

(53:16):
were evacuated to a secure location on campus.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
The live stream was cut off.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
After we watched the evacuation begin parents myself included, went
into panic mode, wondering if we were watching another massacre
unfold in real time.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Thankfully, the paragliders were not terrorist.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
It was a misguided stunt not an attack, but the
trauma was real. Jewish children American and Israelia like relived
October seventh, that afternoon in the middle of a peaceful
American summer camp. Now, I want to stop for just
a second, and I want you to think about what kind.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Of person.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Decides that flying paragliders over a summer camp where Jewish
children who were either a part of or deeply affected
by the events of October seventh?

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Who does that? What kind of monster do.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
You have to be to want to retraumatize children? And
yet I guarantee you those people thought that they.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Were morally correct. It's disgusting, but that's not all.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
So Bethany wrote an article or she wrote about it online.
The post went viral and her dms were flooded with people.
Strangers mocked the idea that Jewish children could have PTSD.
They sneered at traumatized kids as if they were actors
in some propaganda campaign. Then she got a direct message.

(54:50):
And in this direct message, this woman, to her credit,
did not hide her identity. Nope, she went full bore,
and that comes into play later. She in this direct
message about Bethany Mandel's children, started it by saying, and
when I say the letter F, I can assure you

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the whole word is written out. So just use your imagination.
F you and F your kid who goes to Nazi
summer camp, Free Palestine from you, sick f's. And then
she continues, I just effing hate Zionist in any person
who teach their children that genocide is okay, which is
exactly what you're doing when you send them to Zionist

(55:34):
summer camp. Do they know that kids their age are
being starved and blown up because of your beliefs? Do
you teach them that nearly half a million, half a
million Palestinians. That's what this woman thinks is you, guys,
the number that I looked at today, the number given
by Hamas is sixty eight thousand in change. That's still

(55:56):
sixty eight thousand human beings. Please don't think I'm making
light of that. But this dumb road thinks it's half
a million. She's only off by four hundred and twelve thousand.
So close and yet so far.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
It goes on.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
From there, and the message, of course had more lovely
stuff in it. Well, Bethany's decided not to take this
land down anymore. So she's spent thirty seconds on the
interwebs and found that Danielle Gordon of Denver is a white,
middle class, college educated employee of Fidelity, one of the
largest financial institutions in the country. What do you think

(56:31):
her LinkedIn profile said, Let me just read it for
you her LinkedIn profile. By the way, if you're not
on LinkedIn, you have to create your own profile. LinkedIn
doesn't do it for you.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Okay. So in her profile that.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
She created, she says she's quote dedicated to working in inclusive,
respectful and ethical places aw except on the Internet. By
the way, after being made aware of miss Gordon's outspoken
opinions and nastiness, Fidelity has.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Cut her loose.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
So if you get a resume from Danielle Gordon, with
a long history of working in financial services, she has
a secure A seven security clearance. I mean she can
sell securities, is what I'm trying to say. Just be
aware of who you're hiring. The reason Bethany wrote this

(57:27):
colin about this entire incident is.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Twofold, threefold.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
She said that she's done tolerating this, She's finished, and
she wanted people to understand how mainstream this kind of
hate has become at Jewish people. She's not some fringe,
you know, left wing wacko hiding behind some and not No,
she thought it was okay to put her name on

(57:54):
this because in her circle of friends.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
I'm guessing this.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Is acceptable because most people, not all people. Some people
don't understand social norms, but most people adhere to the
social norms of the people that they are around. And
this is why people are afraid to stand up and
make a statement, because they don't want to lose their
social circle more than anything else. And if you stan
it up and say, hey, I think you're wrong by

(58:18):
the way I've you know, I've had friends scrape me
off because of my political views. The way I look
at it is I thanks for saving me the hassle,
because eventually the friendship would have ended anyway. Second, she says, look,
this woman works for fidelity. What if a Jewish client

(58:39):
is given to Miss Gordon. What if someone mentions they're
going to go to Israel on vacation, what does she
do with their money? And Third, she asked the question
can Jews even participate equally in American life without fear
that professionals charge with safeguarding their futures secretly, despite as

(59:00):
you that is a shameful, shameful question to even have
to be asked. But it seems like in the United
States of America, we always have to have somebody at
the bottom of the pecking order, somebody that everybody's gonna
punch down at. You know, we've been told it's minorities.
We've been told it's the gays. We've been told it's women,

(59:21):
we've been told it's brown people, black people, whatever. But
the problem with the Jews being at the bottom of
the list is they don't usually consider themselves victims.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
They don't usually wallow.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
In it, and generally speaking, they're not looking for any
kind of, you know, special treatment. They just want to
be treated fairly like everyone else. I mean, I'm not
trying to speak for the entire Jewish community. I'm just
saying the Jews that I know, they're very self sufficient,
very self capable. They're not looking for any sort of

(59:58):
special treatment. But the way this has become, okay, it's
almost like hate in America has to have somewhere to go, right,
because God forbid people release their hate for other people.
It's hard, especially if you feel like you've truly been
wronged to let go of stuff. I've been working really
hard on forgiving someone that a member of my family,

(01:00:24):
that just severed that relationship so deeply, so completely that
I will never have anything to do with them again.
And I'm okay with that. On that part, I don't mind.
I did it first, but now I don't mind it right,
it's done. But I realized it was still hanging on
to this just level of deep seated animosity and it

(01:00:47):
wasn't productive for me. So I've been working really hard
on letting that go. It's hard, and it's not like
you can say, Okay, I'm over it, I let it go.
But it's like every time you start to go down
that rabbit hole, that hatred rabbit hole where you're finding
yourself of all the reasons that you hate that person,
the only thing you can do is just go stop it,
Just stop. Do you talk to your brain a rod?

(01:01:08):
Do you have conversations with your brain.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
All the time?

Speaker 10 (01:01:11):
See?

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I do too. Does your brain have a name? No,
that's weird.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
I thought it was weird until I saw a woman
on a video and she said she was British, and
she's like okay to my brain and name.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Yes it was, but it was so good.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
And it really is a way of sort of delineating
between your rational brain, which you're trying to kick in,
when your emotional brain is going remember all the reasons
we hate them.

Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
Yeah, but it's not like a two percent chance for
you to start to develop split personality because I don't
want to take that right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
No, No, there's no I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
No, No, multiple personality disorder is that's not developed. If
you were going to get it, you'd have it.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
Let me just say, well, what if it's been there
just waiting to be activated.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Brain, it's a massive trauma response.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
Okay, I'm telling you you want to know about mental
illness stuff, I got you covered and most of them
are in my family, so there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
I just think this is incredibly sad.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
The fact that someone thought it would be funny or
cool or whatever to fly paratroopers or paragliders over these
children is honestly one of the most horrifying, awful things
I have ever heard in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
And when I'm trying.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
To say my prayers later, I'm going to make myself
pray for those people that they get some sense of
humanity or compassion before they die miserable, horrible person. I
do want to share with you guys this audio. This
is available on the TikTok. A Rod finds it for me. Actually,

(01:02:49):
I don't know if you found me this one or not.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
It's the teacher in Alabama where they just banned phones
in school.

Speaker 10 (01:02:55):
One.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
Yeah, you can take credit for it. It's really good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
I just want you to hear one teacher in Alabama
talking about their new phone ban in school.

Speaker 10 (01:03:07):
Here we go my school, my state banned the phones.
Ban the phones. Today.

Speaker 11 (01:03:18):
All of my students, one hundred percent of them, took
notes in my class, did their assignment, asked for help
when they got stuck, and turned it in, and then
when they were done, they talked to each other.

Speaker 10 (01:03:42):
Was it this easy the whole time? Have we have.

Speaker 11 (01:03:50):
I have been pulling my hair out for like eight years.

Speaker 12 (01:03:55):
Has it been this easy of a solution the whole time?

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
I just want to point out something to you guys.
I realize that there are a lot of parents, because
of the history of school shootings here in Colorado, a
lot of parents who just cannot bear the thought of
not having that lifeline to their child because they're pretty
sure that at some point.

Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
Their child is going to call them with a desperate
last call. I understand all of that, I get it,
but by giving into those fears, which statistically are rather unfounded.
I don't mean to be blunt, but you're far more
likely to have your child get killed in a car
accident on the way to school than you are to

(01:04:39):
have something like that happen at the school. And in
the meantime, we are robbing kids of the ability to
function at school the same way you and I did
talking to each other, turning in assignments, taking notes. It's time, you, guys,
it is time time to ban cell phones in schools

(01:05:02):
and parents, we're just gonna have to suck it up.
We're just gonna have to figure it out, because allowing
cell phones in school is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
A huge part of the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
I have friends that have been teaching in schools that
are cell phone free for two years now, and they
will be the first to tell you they were doubtful
at first, because one of them teaches at a high
school level and she was like, I don't know this
is gonna go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
The first thing she told me is that the number.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Of fights every day has dropped down to almost zero.
No fights, no cyberbullying. When you go in the lunch
room at lunch, kids are talking.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
To one another. It is time to ban cell phones
in schools.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
And you and me and every other parent, we're just
gonna have to suck it up like our parents did,
and we're gonna have to figure it out. You know,
back in olden times, our parents if they really needed
there was a super emergency and something had to be done.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
You know what they did.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
They called the office and then someone in the office
came down and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Got us right. That's how it worked. It can work
like that again.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Lol, Mandy, you sound like the mayor with your statistics.
I'm just letting you know what the facts on the
ground are. The good news is is that more states
have now banned cell phones. So we're gonna have real
world comparisons, and we're just gonna have to get over ourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
I'm telling you right now, and I am the mother
of a.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
High school student, and I absolutely, one hundred percent believe
that phone should be banned in school. I just, first
of all, I think kids are using it to cheat,
and some of these kids are gonna be running my
nursing home at some point. Okay, I want people who
actually know how to think and do things and find
stuff and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Maybe how to use the library.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Yeah, yeah, the library, Remember the library, lie rairiy Okay,
I got an update from the same guy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Let me just play this.

Speaker 12 (01:07:00):
So my school, my state banned the phones. It is
the end of our second week, and I want to
give you guys an update on how it's been going.
What surprised me the most, I'm going to save for
the end. But the obvious stuff that we kind of
all expected did happen.

Speaker 10 (01:07:15):
The kids are participating in class more because it's that
or do nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:07:19):
My test scores for my first quiz they were really good,
like better than last year's first test, and this one
I made even harder than last year's and yet the
kids still did better on it. Our library is busier
than it's ever been, and our lunch room is louder
than it's ever been because the kids are checking out
books that they can read when they're done with their
school work, and they're actually talking to their friends while

(01:07:41):
they're at lunch. Shocking concept that, But the thing that
surprised me the most had nothing to do with whether
or not they would check out books or do better
in school. We kind of all expected that. What surprised
me the most is that issues of behavior declined. I
expected that because phones act like a ditch, it'll pacifier

(01:08:01):
our kids that struggle to self regulate, would really struggle
to self regulate.

Speaker 10 (01:08:06):
And instead the opposite has happened.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
Speaking of books, and then he goes on a pimpa's book,
which I mean I would too.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
I would too. It's time to bone to ban phones,
you guys, it is just time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
We can do this.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Parents, we can.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Absolutely do this, and trust me, I feel it too.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
I truly, truly do.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
My kid wants to go to college in Europe, so ah,
I'm right there with you. But it's four It's gonna
be better for the kids, and that's really what we
should all be concerned about.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
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Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
Welcome Local, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connell. That guy over there, Anthony Rodriguez.
In about half an hour, We're gonna talk to my
friend Jim Delutis from the Affordable Art Festival that is
happening this Weekend's like one of the coolest things.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Love this thing, apparently, Anthony.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
According to the text line, I'm a damn commy, but
I don't know why.

Speaker 10 (01:09:34):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
I don't know why. Why am I comedy? Now? I mean,
what what did I do? Did you just transition to
a Tommy? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
I'm thinking about the last segment, Like there was nothing
in this last segment. Banning phones in school is not commy.
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
So they're saying, you've been for a while now, I don't,
I don't know. I don't know. There's any clarification, Texter.

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
So if you could just expand lifelove Cobby.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
Here's well, we need answers to two questions. When did
I become a commie? First of all, is it a
long time commy thing or is this If it's a
new thing that made you think I'm a commie, then
what exactly was the thing that made you realize that
I am a commie in your mind? I would argue
that I don't believe I'm a commie. If I were,

(01:10:25):
everybody would be so much better off listening to what
I wanted. See, I am a commie anyway. Got a
couple of things. I have a column today from a
substack called the Douglas County Lantern, but this is about
the fourth Congressional District.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Not just Douglas County.

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
The column is called Representative Lauren Bobert's Case for re election.
And I may shock you with my next statement, but
I am going to be enthusiastically voting for Lauren Bobert
in the fourth Congressional District because since he was sworn
into the fourth you know what we have had. We've

(01:11:02):
had a member of Congress who has focused on the
issues important to Colorado and the people in the fourth district.
We haven't had drama, we haven't had you know, outbursts,
we haven't had cat fight reports between her and MTG.
She's just been a solid representative from the fourth Congressional District.

(01:11:22):
And though I was not super happy about voting for
her in the last election cycle, I am far more
enthusiastic about voting for her this time. So you can
read that they also did. This sub stack is really
interesting stuff. I may actually reach out to the authors
that are working on this, and they've also talked about
the Democratic candidates in the fourth congressional district. Lauren Bobert's

(01:11:46):
margins were very much tighter than ken Buck's margins in
terms of overall victory, and four different Democrats are running
to challenge her, and one of them, you know, Tricia Calvareci,
came on this show, and I liked Trisha. I think
she's wrong about a lot of stuff, but I think

(01:12:06):
she's really nice. But now there's four Democrats and they
have focused they're doing features on everyone running in the
fourth congressional district. So if you live in the fourth
you can go ahead and check that out. That is
linked on today's blog as well.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Bad news for.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
Those of you who are listening to the radio full
blast because you can't hear anything. New research, and by
the way, this new research just backs up what old
research said. New research published in the Journal of the
American Medical Association shows it up to thirty two percent
of dementia cases in older adults can be linked.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
To hearing loss. Here's why.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
One of the things that I believe exacerbates dementia greatly
is the if you don't use it, you lose it strategy,
and I know that for in my own family. My
late grandmother was living in her home for a very
long time. She lived independently for a very very long time,

(01:13:07):
and then she got really sick and she had to
go to the hospital, and then we had to take
her to In my hometown, the rehab center is attached
to a nursing home, and so we took her to
the rehab center so she could recover because she was
not in a position.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
To go home.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
And eventually she ended up staying in the nursing home
because she said to me, I hadn't realized how lonely
I had gotten. And the reason I bring this up
is that in the timeframe before she got ill, she
had begun to get very disoriented. She had begun to
sundown really bad, like up all night, you know, and

(01:13:42):
during the day, very confused. She was starting to get paranoid.
She was starting to show some of the signs of dementia.
But when she moved into the nursing home full time,
I got my grandmother back because.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
There was stuff to do, there was people to.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
Talk to, there were things, you know, there was just
activities she had a lot of people she knew that
lived in that nursing home, and the difference was stark.
It made a real impression on me. And when we
talk about the epidemic of loneliness, this is how hearing
loss leads to dementia. When you can no longer engage

(01:14:16):
because your hearing is not good, and you can't participate
in conversations, and you can't go out to dinner because
you can't hear. And by the way, once again, I
would just like to ask restaurants, can we go away
from the hard concrete floors and the high, high industrial
ceilings and then add music in and then put tables

(01:14:36):
close together?

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
My god, who are you trying to serve there?

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
Anyway, Hearing care practitioners are now saying, look, you need
to get your hearing checked and it can actually delay dementia.
Even if someone is in the beginning stages of dementia.
There are things you can do to delay the progress
of the dementia and getting your hearing checked is one
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
So do that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
My friend doctor Patty at Colorado Tonightis and Hearing Center
would probably love to help you. And even now, like
if you just want to go and buy some over
the counter hearing aids. You can do that if you're
worried about cost. But I will tell you there is
a huge difference in over the counter hearing aids that
are generic for everyone and having hearing aids custom fit
to your ears, especially if you have something like a

(01:15:22):
confounding issue like tonightis, because Tonight's cannot be cured by
regular hearing aids. But there are hearing products, hearing aids
and products that can get rid of the tonightis and
help you hear. There's a huge difference. But hey, you
know what, if over the counter is what works for
your price point, see if it works, see if it
will be what works for you. Because too many people

(01:15:43):
are sitting on the sidelines. Remember there always seems to
be the old man at dinners or the old woman
at dinners who just seems entirely cranky and angry and
just irritated that they have to be there. I have
a theory that most of the time it's because they
can't hear a dang thing, and they're just sitting there

(01:16:05):
feeling isolated in a group of people. So I want
to bring you this public service announcement. Get your hearing checked.
It can stave off dementia. You don't want dementia, so
get your hearing checked. It's really that easy. Let's talk
about the secret gay sex scandal exploding in the Republican Party.
As closeted congressman who's engaged to a woman is accused
of a sortid double life. That's the headline and the

(01:16:27):
Daily Mail. And man, I think I've seen this very
same headline before, because there always seems to be at
least one, maybe two closeted Republicans who run around talking
about family values while they're banging dudes in a cheap
hotel kind of thing. It's not always Republicans. Sometimes the
closeted people are Democrats. But you know the only reason
I bring this up like this is that these stories

(01:16:49):
only appear when it appears that the Republican Party is
going to come after gay rights.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
And let me tell you something.

Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
If I what's described as young muscular sex workers in Washington,
d C. And they're coming after me, I'm going after
them now. Ultimately, who someone has sex with is not
my business. I don't care unless we're married. I don't care. However,
and this is such a big. However, if you are male, female,

(01:17:25):
whatever the secret life is that you are hiding and
trying to project an image that says you are something
completely different, whatever that thing is that makes you compromisable,
that means you can be black mailed. That means that
someone can find out threaten you, and you are going

(01:17:47):
to do their will. And that is where this gets concerning. Now,
there are several people that I in my lifetime have
been pretty certain we're gay. One of them former Republican
then independent, now Democrat Charlie Crist of Florida. Charlie Christ
is gay. I have spoken to people that have told

(01:18:09):
me with great, great detail things about Charlie Crist that
make me believe wholeheartedly the man is gay. But when
he was being considered for a vice presidential shop, what
do you think he did? He went out, he got
himself a girlfriend and they got married and he was credit.
They were married for nine years, and you know how
the marriage ended. It ended with a statement from him saying, gosh,

(01:18:31):
I just think the world of Carol. But it just
didn't work out, and everybody was like, oh, so sad.
There's a lot of rumors around Tim Scott. Here's the thing,
I don't care if Tim Scott's gay. He hasn't been married,
He's been a bachelor all this time. But Tim Scott
has the additional baggage of not just being a conservative,
but a conservative black man in the South.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Being gay still.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Is not cool with a lot of black people, especially
in the South.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
It's just it's just not cool.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
And now Tim Scott, as he rises to prominence, what
did he do last year?

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
He got married.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
And don't get me wrong, I hope it's true love.
I hope they are happy till the end of time.
But the notion that somehow, in today's day and age,
you have to hide being gay is sad. It's truly
truly sad, and I feel sorry for these people. These
people are leading a double life, and that's got to

(01:19:27):
be constantly exhausting, being worried if you're gonna be found out.
And by the way, this article doesn't name anybody, which
is really annoying. I mean, you know, if you're gonna
if you're gonna come out like this, if you're gonna
come in hot, then you should go ahead and name names.
Let's just cut to the chase. Well, what's interesting about
this listen to this. I see a lot of Republican

(01:19:50):
clients on the low, says one of these muscular young
sex workers. I'm not gonna out my clients, but there
are many in the Republican Party, this guy says. The
revelation echo comments from Grinder's CEO George Errison, who revealed
his apse's dramatic surges in activity during major Republican gatherings,
including a significant spike at the party's July twenty twenty

(01:20:13):
fourth convention in Milwaukee. Local users reported seeing a many
more blank profiles than usual, the telltale sign of men
seeking discreete encounters without revealing their names or faces when
thousands of buttoned up Conservatives descended on the Midwestern city.
It's just time to get over at kids, It's just

(01:20:34):
time to get over it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
If people are going to be gay, be gay. Don't
drag some poor woman into this, don't you know. I mean,
don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
They get something out of it too, They get to
be married to a congressman or whatever. Who knows what
the motivation is there, but it's we've got to just
it's time to let it go. Just let people be
who they are.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
It's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
Texter said, I'm seventy two years old, toothless and bald,
but oh wait a minute, but my hearing is excellent.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
I constantly shock people.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
My parents, grandparents, and siblings are all deaf, so I
can't explain it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Lucky for you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:13):
I mean it twenty five years in radio before I
got tonightis so there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
There you go, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:21:21):
When it comes to being closeted, don't even get me
started on black males. I know two black men who
are now older and out, but boy, one of them
was married to women four times. And at some point
you're like, just stop dragging other people into whatever drama
you're creating for yourself. If you don't want to be
who you are, just stop marrying women. Just be a

(01:21:43):
confirmed bachelor. I mean that used to be a thing
back in the day. Remember that everybody in my hometown
that I now clearly look back on and like, oh, yeah,
he was gay, confirmed bachelor, just couldn't find the right one.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Do something beautiful for yourself. And if you're looking for
a little artwork, maybe to.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
Freshen up what you've got in your home, what a
great opportunity I have for you. This weekend and joining
me now to talk about the Affordable Arts Festival. It's
Jim delutus Hi, Jim, how you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:22:12):
I'm doing well? How are you?

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
I am doing just fine. I know this is the
time of the week where it's getting to be the
rubber meets the road. But you're not in the day
to day anymore, are you. You're just the pretty face
the arm candy that talks about the Affordable Arts Festival.

Speaker 8 (01:22:27):
Oh no, I'm I'm no, I'm still in the fox hole.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
Oh no, I thought you were retiring. Didn't we talk
about that?

Speaker 10 (01:22:35):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
Okay, okay, I'm not shoving you out the door yet.

Speaker 8 (01:22:38):
I just thought we had the conversation because I realized
this is our fourteenth time discussing the arts festival, and
that's how many years have gone by since I started it.
Thenly cat like three years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
That's fantastic, that's absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
Let's talk about what this Affordable Arts Festival is all about.
First of all, what are we raising money for?

Speaker 8 (01:23:00):
Well, we're raising money for a Rapid Hoo Community College
foundation for scholarships and that's where the event happens is
on the campus there, and the money's raised strictly from
the twelve dollars admission fee. The artists do their job
by lowering the prices tremendously and getting people excited about

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buying art. And this year we're one hundred and fifty
dollars or less. People can get all sorts of wonderful things.
That are our best deal for this year is a
five thousand dollars painting for one fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
Oh, that's fantastic. Now here's the best part. Everybody shows
up Saturday morning. Everybody gets there early. You stand in
line with everybody else, You have coffee, maybe we get
a snack for yourself, and then the stampede starts.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
At what time? What time do your gates open?

Speaker 8 (01:23:52):
Well, let me just correct one thing. Sunday morning will
be he said, Saturday, it's going to be a long
Oh I'm sorry about that. But yeah, So Sunday morning,
the people, hardcore people are in the line about five am.
But you're still good coming, you know, seven, seven thirty. Yeah,

(01:24:12):
you're still getting pretty close to the front. The gates
open at nine o'clock. It runs from nine till three,
so it's a nearly six hour show, but a whole
lot of art gets sold in those six hours.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Well, I.

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
Love this event because you can find something for everyone,
and that's one of one of the things I want
to get across.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
Well, I hate going.

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
To an art show where everything kind of looks the same, right,
and the artists are very similar and they don't have
a lot of variety. You guys have every kind of art.
Tell me a little bit about the artists that are
going to be there this year.

Speaker 8 (01:24:45):
Well, we have one hundred and sixty artists and once again,
you know, they're coming in from about twenty two different
states to do this because this past year we were
right number one in the country and so we're drawing
attention here. But the artwork is you know, kind of
let you see when you go to the art shows,

(01:25:07):
except this time that you can afford it. But you know,
we have a painting, and we have glass, and we
have jewelry and metal and sculpture and well, you know,
just everything you've seen, only you haven't seen those price
tags before.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
No, not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
And one of the things that I that I want
to talk about, and I think about it every year
that I go to the art show and then I
see this artwork and then I'm like, dang, why didn't
I mention that you always have a really good selection
of artwork that would be perfect for a baby's room
or a kid's room. And that may seem like a
weird thing to point out, but you know, in my
husband's family, they have paintings that have hung in every

(01:25:45):
kid's bedrooms. Right, they become kind of a family tradition.
And if you are you got little kids, you got it,
you're about to have a baby, what a great opportunity
to come out and find something fun that can become
one of those things for your family as well. But
they have art of every size. I'm guessing, do you
have any giant pieces this year?

Speaker 8 (01:26:03):
Yeah, of all the five thousand dollars pieces five feet
by four feet painting, So that's that's kind of big.
But yes, it's actually when you're talking about that for kids,
new artists this year, and she has these very whimsical
paintings of robots doing yep, very fun things.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
Well, I already perused the website at Affordable Arts Festival
dot com and I put a link to it on
the blog today so people can go and get a
little taste of the artists that will be there knowing
that everything that you're seeing on the website is not everything.
It is just a kind of a little snippet, maybe
one sample of what that artist just bring into the table.
But strategy wise, maybe you can focus on the artists

(01:26:47):
you want, and then you have the map in front
of you and you can go right to their booth
as soon as it opens or as soon as you
get there to see if you can get the piece
that you want.

Speaker 8 (01:26:55):
And the other thing to keep in mind, we just
started this a few years ago. A lot of the
arts at eleven o'clock will bring out a deal or
maybe multiple deals. It's up to them to do whatever.
And so things that no one has seen yet come
out at eleven o'clock so that people that did show
up kind of late at least have a shot at

(01:27:16):
some pieces that no one else has seen yet. And
so you're just listening. When we open the gates at
nine o'clock. We have the air horn at eleven o'clock.
When you hear the airhorn again, that means the eleven
o'clock deals are.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Out, all right, it's all happening this Sunday. Gates open
at nine am. It goes until three pm. But I'm
just going to be honest, like you're going to be
picking over the leftovers if you get there at two o'clock.
That's just the way it is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
You're just going to get this.

Speaker 8 (01:27:43):
It will get a better deal.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
Yet maybe, but you're getting a better deal on the leftovers.
But good thing artists subjective, right, So what somebody else
may have left behind? Maybe the piece that you absolutely love?
How much your tickets and how can people get them?

Speaker 8 (01:27:55):
Jen? It's twelve dollars as usual and the other thing
too real quick? On the tickets at twelve dollars, that's
where we're raising the money. We've raised over three hundred
and twenty thousand for the scholarship fund at the ACC,
so we've done well. Yeah, But tickets are on the
website also the Affordable Arts Festival dot com. There's a

(01:28:17):
button right there on the homepage that say buy tickets.

Speaker 5 (01:28:20):
I have to ask this question, Jim, because I've been
interviewing you for all these years and the tickets have
always been twelve dollars?

Speaker 8 (01:28:27):
Is there any cheaper? But a long time ago, I
mean twelve, nobody.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
Would blame you if you went up to fifteen. I'm
just throwing that out there. I'm just saying, nobody would
be mad at you if you went up to fifteen
and made more money.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
I'm just throwing it's just an idea.

Speaker 8 (01:28:42):
You can they will. They yelled at me when I
moved it up to ten, and then when I moved
it to twelve, people said that's it, I'm done with you.
I'm like, okay, well I'm done with you too.

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
But yeah, people keep showing up every single year because
it's a great art festival.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Yeah, well, Jim, get.

Speaker 5 (01:28:58):
Crack and I'll let you go finish all your heart work.
I may see you this weekend. I think I am
gonna come down this weekend, even though I have been
told repeatedly by my husband that I have no more
raw art space.

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
So we'll have to see how that goes.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
But I know that you're gonna have a great crowd
as usual down there at the Arapaho Community College campus.
Let's to be clear on South Stanta Fe Drive.

Speaker 8 (01:29:19):
Yeah exactly, all right, Yes, if you do come down,
please give me a call.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
I sure will.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
That's Jim Delutas with the Affordable Arts Festival. Affordable Arts.
Let me make sure I got that right. Affordable Arts
Festival dot com. Jim, I appreciate your time as always
my friend.

Speaker 8 (01:29:34):
All right, thank you very much, Thank.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
You, Jim.

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
If you need any kind of artwork for your home,
I am telling you this is where you go, because
I've gotten a couple. As a matter of fact, I
bought a piece from my friend Tony Thielen. He became
my friend after I bought a piece from him at
the Affordable Arts Festival. And it is unlike anything else
he has ever done. Because now we're pals and I
follow his artwork and I love him and he actually

(01:29:57):
I had breakfast with him when we were in New
Mexico and he said, hey, if you ever want to
sell that back to me, I was like, no, I'm
not selling it back to you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Because I love it that much. I love it. Got
a couple things there. They're just spectacular.

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Susan wikins entire like all of her big art is
from the Affordable Arts Festival. It's exactly, It's all gorgeous. Okay,
So a Rod sent me a story today of people
revealing the innocent behaviors that are actually huge red flags,
and Okay, every time I see a BuzzFeed article like this.

(01:30:34):
This is how I open it up. I open it
up with this kind of face the rod I'm okay,
let's see what they're in to you here, right, because
some of them are really dumb. I started reading this
one and I was like, oh my gosh, I wish
I'd had this list when I was twenty because there's
so many things on this list. But number one. Number
one is one of my biggest pet peeves. And it

(01:30:55):
goes into a second biggest pet peeve, and that is
when people tell.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
You they're a good person. No, I'm really a good person.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
If they have to tell you that they are a
good person over and over and over again, a vast
majority of the time, it's because their actions are not
the actions of a good person.

Speaker 7 (01:31:14):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
That goes into my second thing that drives me crazy.
People that use their veteran status or their Christianity as
the lead in their business.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
Hear me out.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
I'm not mad at owned businesses being advertised as veteran
owned businesses. I'm not mad at Christian owned businesses saying
you know what, we're a Christian company. What irritates me
is when you are in a sales situation, people are
coming to your house, to pitch you, to get you
to buy a product or whatever it is, and a
lot of their presentation is sounds like this, Well, as

(01:31:48):
a Christian, I believe strong as a Christian, they tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:52):
Over and over and over and over again.

Speaker 5 (01:31:56):
It's quite different to say we're a Christian orner owned
company and we're proud of it, and then demonstrate your
Christian values by the way you treat your customers, by
the way you speak to them kindly, by the way
you don't rip them off. And for veteran own businesses, again,
I think it's great, Like I love using a veteran

(01:32:18):
owned business until I meet with someone in their whole
pitch is.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Well, you know, veteran, veteran, veteran, veteran veteran.

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
It's like, stop telling me you're a veteran and tell
me you're gonna do the right thing and then do it.
That one man, I was like, oh gosh, that was yep, yep.
And the number three one is something that as I've
gotten older, I cannot tolerate. And I have called people
out on this before, and it's always young women, young

(01:32:45):
women who act dumb because other people will do things
for you. Especially good looking young women, are like, oh
my god, I don't know how to do anything. Can
you kind of help me? It's like you are not
helping yourself. You may think you're helping yourself by presenting
yourself is too stupid to function at a very basic level, but.

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
Eventually that catches up with you, and eventually your.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
Reputation is you're too stupid and can't do anything. So
your little plot to offload your work to other people
by pretending you're too dumb to do it, but luckily
you're attractive enough to pull it off.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
I cannot tolerate. That makes me absolutely insane, just insane.
Can't do it, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
I need a bigger home for all the art I
want me too, Me too. Mandy went to acc in
seventy five, donated mom's eighty four Corolla to the auto
shop two years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
That's fantastic. That is fantastic, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
Please tell me this art festival is twice a year
and it hasn't been an entire year already. I'm sorry,
but this art festival is once a year. However, Jim
was also on for the Denver Art Festival, so he's
involved with two different festivals. So you may have heard
him twice, but the Fordable arts vestval only happens once

(01:34:05):
here this texterter. But I am a nice guy. Great
show me deeds not words. These not words. I read
an article a couple of days ago about how I
can't remember what the stupid relationship style was called.

Speaker 10 (01:34:22):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:34:22):
It was called like something like people who have an
aggressive or people that snipe at each other all the time,
like a couple that they're in competition. Everything's a competition.
All they do is bicker. All they do is complain.
All they do is argue. I could never be in
a relationship like that. It would make me absolutely insane.

(01:34:42):
And I'm thinking to myself, what doesn't somebody just say,
why don't you guys just speak kindly to one another?
You know, when Chuck does something for me, I say
thank you. When I ask him for something.

Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
I say please. It just basic, you know, little amenities
of life. Just be nice to people.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
Ben Albright not done with enough radio on KOA today.
KOA stands for koh Albright. You guys that nine hours
of Albright today all day, everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
I till Ben. One time when I was in Louisville.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
I was when I was actively but not actively looking
for another job, you know, just like making myself, putting
myself out there. I would fill in. I filled in
out here, I filled in in Saint Louis, Missouri, and
I filled in in some city in Ohio. And I
did my own radio show. So I was on the
air for nine hours straight, but on different radio stations.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
So by the end, like the.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
Last hour of the last show, I honestly just said
to the audience, I'm like, I don't know if I
already said this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
On the show.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
I probably said it on three other shows today, but
I don't know if I'm repeating myself.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
I apologize. But after that I got home.

Speaker 5 (01:35:54):
I staggered back home and Chuck his home and I
was like, don't.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
Ever fee do that again, Like, don't ever ever let.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Me agree to that again, because it was horrific.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
I was just looking in our boss Dave Temper.

Speaker 13 (01:36:09):
He has been out of the weather a little bit,
and that was I was like, wow, this, I mean,
does Mandy need a break?

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
She didn't, Marty do.

Speaker 13 (01:36:14):
I just need to get in here at four point
thirty and I'm not leaving until Yeah, we'll just make
it a clean sweep yep.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
I did get to go home and take a nap
there for a.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
Couple hours, which is nice right now there.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
Yeah, well I can't nap, so so it wasn't an option.
But I didn't have a break the whole day.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Yeah, well you're free street. So I got the kid
and I got the break, and I was in this.

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
When I was at Whas, they didn't have an extra
studio per se. But Terry Miners, the legendary and still
current afternoon guy in Louisville. He had an office that
had like an access rack or whatever, so I could.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Do it in his office.

Speaker 5 (01:36:46):
But what it didn't have was air conditioning. So I'm
sitting in this room that's like ten by ten. All
of the equipment is fired up, so that just gives
you heat right there. And on every commercial break, I
would just go and wave the door waited.

Speaker 13 (01:37:02):
It was just you can a box fan it yourself,
because if the microphone picks it up, you know, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
There's nothing you can do. But I kind of look
at that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
That's almost like if I do that my mount everest
of radio kind of thing, you know what, I.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Mean like throw it at man. I have been on
the air longer than that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:19):
I was on the air for thirteen hours straight in
Hurricane Wilma in southwest Florida. Actually I take that back.
I was on the air for fifteen hours. I did
take a two hour nap as the storm was directly
over us, because that's like the quiet time. Yeah, so
I took a two hour nap and then I got
up and went back on the air. So I just
you wear those things like a badge of it. We
did a marathon show in college. I think I forget

(01:37:42):
what the world record was as well, over.

Speaker 7 (01:37:43):
Twenty four hours, and then we learned when we finished
that we did not do the proper paperwork.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
Yeah, you gotta do the paperwork in advance. Yeah, not cool,
and get mixed.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
Guinness wants money, Yeah, they want Benjamin's apparently.

Speaker 13 (01:37:56):
Our I mean, nobody wants suspension they yeah, apparently that's
that's a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
And and like the marathon stuff is.

Speaker 13 (01:38:02):
Did you see this French streamer that died doing a
marathon stream?

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
This guy was doing like a live stream for like
a week.

Speaker 10 (01:38:11):
He died.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
I'm not saying he deserved it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
I'm just saying who needs to be who needs to
to create that much content?

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
You know, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
I mean I will stare at the fish doorbell camera
online all day long. I love that thing. But I'm
not going to watch somebody else just sit there in
them incessantly.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
This guy was he was like a gaming streamer or whatever. Yeah,
sorry about that. Wow, Mandy, that's called paying your dues.
Oh no, that's paying somebody else's dues right there. Anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:38:42):
Uh now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
I'm it's Kine.

Speaker 12 (01:38:51):
Day.

Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
You can back off that, miss Smith. You did you
leaned in? You leaned in on that one, Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
Three hours? Sorry about your luck anyway. What is our
dad joke of the day? Please?

Speaker 7 (01:39:04):
Running into stationary objects can be painful.

Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
According to a recent poll, I like that one. I
like that one a lot. Okay, what's our word of
the day? Please? Is a verb?

Speaker 7 (01:39:16):
Okay? Et elate eto late et o late what I
E T I O l A T E.

Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
I have absolutely no idea eto late. I'm going to say,
what is the root et o?

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
What the root word is? So I'm gonna try and
make it. Okay, you guess then, doesn't it means like
you you've lost your mojo, you lost take your your strength,
your vigor, like you've petered out.

Speaker 7 (01:39:42):
Kinda What this has to do with a plant?

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Oh, I'm going to say it's to up tank water
from the roots.

Speaker 7 (01:39:48):
Then to cause a plant to whiten or grow pale
by excluding light.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
Oh you another another definition the root word? I really
do not all right?

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
Which famous American novelist worked as a reporter and writer
for the Kansas City newspaper when he was seventeen years old.
I feel like this is like a Hunter S. Thompson
thing here maybe let's see here. Oh I am wrong.
He was earlier than Hunterress addressed.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Reporter.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Yes, and I hate his work. I'm no, I'm blanking
Ernest Hemingway. Was it really?

Speaker 9 (01:40:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:40:26):
And I don't like Ernest Hemingway. I hate the way
he writes women. It's it's literally insulting to my gender,
the way he writes women. I just I don't like it.

Speaker 13 (01:40:34):
It's like, what's that the Jack Nicholson lives as good
as it gets? How do you write women so well?

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
I think of a man in a takeaway reason and accountability?

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
Oh boy, that's pretty much ernest way and there, I mean, anyway,
what is our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Let me channel my best Homer Simpson here. Okay? Donuts? No,
I don't just a part yeah, don't? What what dough?

Speaker 10 (01:40:57):
Dough?

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:40:59):
According to legend, this holiday cookie with a manly shape
was created by I.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
Mean, what's a gingerbread?

Speaker 10 (01:41:05):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
Correct?

Speaker 7 (01:41:06):
It's just by the way, No, no, do that one
happened to okay because I was like trying to do
the things that are Now that I've roasted my marshmallow,
I'll combine it with either what's a s'more? Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Sir Isaac?

Speaker 7 (01:41:22):
Could you tell there are apple, strawberry, and fig varieties
of these?

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
Did you get it?

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Then?

Speaker 10 (01:41:27):
Then?

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
What are new to them?

Speaker 7 (01:41:31):
It's the large American cookie company whose cookies.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
Are made by Els. What is Keebler? Correct?

Speaker 7 (01:41:38):
You can get your own messages put inside these dessert cookies.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
What are fortune cookies? That is correct? And what are
my favorite favorite favorites? Yummy? Like favorite wedding favors? Ever?

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
Were fortune cookies that on the inside said it'll probably
never last And I thought that was the funniest. It
actually was a wedding edict of a comedian.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
So funny.

Speaker 13 (01:41:59):
Like I used to there was a Chinese restaurant that
my mom, who's an immigration attorney, helped immigrate them back
when I was in high school, and they would make
their fortune cookies fresh.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Oh nice.

Speaker 13 (01:42:09):
They would do their own typewritten scripts, so I would
slip them a couple of bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
But if I took a date in there.

Speaker 13 (01:42:14):
You've just met the man of your dreams or you know,
put stuff like that inside the scamming on the fortune cookies.

Speaker 7 (01:42:19):
So see the fortune I got before the inclines unreal? Yeah,
it was perfectly step by step, you will ascend the
staircase to success.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
Before I did the incline the week he was really lying.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:42:29):
My favorite fortune ever my dear and now departed friend Dave.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
I loved this guy.

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
He was super awkward and just a complete nerd and
I adored him. And we go out to the Chinese
restaurant and he got a Chinese he got a fortune
cookie and the fortune was and I quote, never smell
the inside of a hat.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
And it was like, what's the first thing you did
after that? Of course?

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
Yeah, it's like when I say your dog's feet smell
like Fredo's not gonna act like you're not gonna smell
them later, but you are. You totally are. What's coming
up on KA Sports? Then does all the prep work
on that haws happened?

Speaker 13 (01:43:04):
So just this sunny disposition and that kind of jokes.

Speaker 5 (01:43:07):
He's just the Armcadka Sports coming up. So I'll be
back tomorrow for a big half hour. Tune in at
twelve if you want to hear the whole half hour,
and then baseball takes over.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
All right, we'll be back. Keep it on KA