September 5, 2025 • 7 mins
Mike joins me at 12:30 to chat about this but if this isn't a campaign talking point for Republicans I don't know what is.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
At mo'donnell and go ahead and give Mike O'Donnell a
follow because I just asked Mike this off the ear,
and Mike, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
First of all, thank you thanks forl having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I just asked Mike off the air, I said, Mike,
what are do you just sit around and do nerdy
economic stuff all day? And the answer is essentially yes.
And then he puts his statistics in his graphs on
X and some of them are shocking, and then some
of them are super shocking and this one that I
saw today or yesterday was one of those.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And it says Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Although the number of violent crimes were reported by the
FBI nationally fell by ten point h four percent between
twenty seventeen and twenty twenty four, the annual number of
violent crimes the FBI track for Colorado increased twenty eight
percent over that same timeframe.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I mean, that's absolutely nuts. Where did these statistics come from?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And then it's a good question what happens is the
FBI maintains like a general database and I think in
that press release they said about one hundred and sixty
thousand agencies, you know, police, sheriffs, colleges, universities, tribals will
all report statistics each year to the FBI, and they
say it covers about ninety six point five percent of
(01:22):
the population of the United States.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So they gathered this.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Information up every year and then they put it up
on their website, you know, typically every August. So it's
just good data to use, and you can check through
that information by state and even within state, by the
policing district. For example, my little county out here in
eastern Colorado, I thought I'd check and see how many
(01:46):
violent crimes the sheriff dealt with last year, and they
dealt with three, and then the year before they dealt
with four.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So you're in little.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
County where violent crimes stropped twenty five percent. But for
the whole of Colorado, it's actually, you know, it's just
year to year it's gone down just this fraction, but
if you look at an eight year trend, it's gone
up more than in any other state. So it's not
a good trend for Colorado to be sharing.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So Mike, in looking at the graph that you put together,
it is striking how much how many more states are
underneath on the declining crime side, you have maybe a
handful of states, maybe eight or nine, maybe ten where
crime went up, and.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Colorado's right on the top of that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
There's no other state that saw a bigger increase over
this timeframe than us.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
If you actually look back at twenty seventeen stats, because
I just I started with twenty seventeen just because it
was about eight years ago and I like even numbers.
Colorado was ranked twenty first in the nation in terms
of violent crime statistics. And what I mean by those
is that how many crimes occur per one hundred thousand
of populations. So Colorado's population has been reacing a little
(03:00):
bit faster than the national average since twenty seventeen. But
Colorado moved from twenty first in twenty seventeen to fifth
in twenty twenty four, and no other state has jumped
that far that fast. So something unusual is going on
in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Now, I know that you are a statistics guy. You
are the man who crunches the numbers and looks at
all this stuff. And are you just leaving it up
to us to decide if it was the disastrous criminal
justice reform bill that could have led us down this
path or disastrous let them all go. Free policies by
district attorneys that have let us here.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You're just gonna let us draw our own conclusions.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, I like to draw Let it people draw your
own conclusions. Again, I have opinions and ex or Twitter
or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I have.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I've got a paid subscriber, so I have my limited number,
and so I'm not gonna pose my opinions on people.
I like people to look at the information and draw
their own. But you're right, there's been changes here with
our one party rule, our you know, slap on the
hand type approach to criminals and everything I mentioned off
earlier that you know, microeconomics is all about incentives and
(04:12):
different in disincentives and what we have not done a
good job of providing disincentives for people in Colorado to
commit crime. So when you look at the stats, now,
you know we have a cast old and in our
state every eighteen minutes. That was in twenty twenty four,
but if you go back to twenty twenty two, it
was every nine minutes, and so things are improving a
(04:34):
little bit, but compared to you know, where we were
in twenty seventeen. It's just chalk and cheese. It's just
very different. Things have changed in Colorado then, you know that,
and comments about the possible causes are very obvious. I mean,
the team that's in charge in today's you know, one
party rules, no checks and balances. We have an attorneys
(04:57):
who's soft on crime, to put it bluntly, and and
the left side of the islas has approaches to punishment
at criminal justice that just don't work.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I would agree with you wholeheartedly on that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I asked Mike OFFI ar, sid, Why'd you choose twenty seventeen,
because I would be very interested in just seeing the
data since twenty nineteen, when we truly became a one
party rule state. Do you have that broken out? I mean,
what is the trend? There is the trend as dramatic?
I guess.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It is with the FBI gives it on a annual basis.
So I've looked at twenty nineteen twenty nineteen. The jump
from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen wasn't great. The huge
jump in twenty twenty and the problem with the FBI
is that in twenty twenty one, a lot of states
didn't seem to report crimes for whatever reason because the COVID, Yeah,
(05:54):
COVID and stuff. But for example, California, which is right
up there with US, I mean, they had in twenty twenty.
You know, they traditionally have one hundred and seventy plus
thousand violent crimes each year. In twenty twenty one on
the FBI databases only thirty six thousand crimes, but then
in twenty twenty two they jump up to one hundred
and ninety four thousand. So sometimes there's a little bit
(06:15):
of inconsistency from year to year. So I don't like
to just compare one year to another. I like to
look over a period of time. But you're right after
after twenty nineteen, really starting in twenty twenty and going
through that COVID year, twenty twenty two was really bad
year for Colorado, and then it's eased a bit in
twenty three, dropped by about a nine hundred violent crimes
(06:37):
from twenty two to twenty three, and then it's dropped
by another one hundred and thirty one from twenty three
to twenty four. So the damage was all done in
twenty one and twenty two in the state and that
was the peak of the One Party's let's make it
harder for people to own guns and defend themselves, and
let's make it easier for people who commit offenses to
(07:00):
And I get up quickly and try again.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
No, I was gonna say, Mike, I think that we've
reaped what we've sown on this and and I appreciate
and I told Mike this, I'm I'm glad you have
time to sit around and crunch these numbers and do
these statistics.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So people are thinking, Holy, gets off the gross and
I can go outside and do some of the things
that don't involve looking at a screen.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But yeah, thank you, I appreciate it. Follow Mike on X.
It's just Mo Donald, right, m O d doneal Mo Donald.
Follow him for great information, Mike. I'm sure we'll talk
again soon.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Okay, thanks Mandy, all right, thank you. That is Mike
o'donald
At mo'donnell and go ahead and give Mike O'Donnell a
follow because I just asked Mike this off the ear,
and Mike, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
First of all, thank you thanks forl having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I just asked Mike off the air, I said, Mike,
what are do you just sit around and do nerdy
economic stuff all day? And the answer is essentially yes.
And then he puts his statistics in his graphs on
X and some of them are shocking, and then some
of them are super shocking and this one that I
saw today or yesterday was one of those.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And it says Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Although the number of violent crimes were reported by the
FBI nationally fell by ten point h four percent between
twenty seventeen and twenty twenty four, the annual number of
violent crimes the FBI track for Colorado increased twenty eight
percent over that same timeframe.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I mean, that's absolutely nuts. Where did these statistics come from?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And then it's a good question what happens is the
FBI maintains like a general database and I think in
that press release they said about one hundred and sixty
thousand agencies, you know, police, sheriffs, colleges, universities, tribals will
all report statistics each year to the FBI, and they
say it covers about ninety six point five percent of
(01:22):
the population of the United States.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So they gathered this.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Information up every year and then they put it up
on their website, you know, typically every August. So it's
just good data to use, and you can check through
that information by state and even within state, by the
policing district. For example, my little county out here in
eastern Colorado, I thought I'd check and see how many
(01:46):
violent crimes the sheriff dealt with last year, and they
dealt with three, and then the year before they dealt
with four.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So you're in little.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
County where violent crimes stropped twenty five percent. But for
the whole of Colorado, it's actually, you know, it's just
year to year it's gone down just this fraction, but
if you look at an eight year trend, it's gone
up more than in any other state. So it's not
a good trend for Colorado to be sharing.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So Mike, in looking at the graph that you put together,
it is striking how much how many more states are
underneath on the declining crime side, you have maybe a
handful of states, maybe eight or nine, maybe ten where
crime went up, and.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Colorado's right on the top of that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
There's no other state that saw a bigger increase over
this timeframe than us.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
If you actually look back at twenty seventeen stats, because
I just I started with twenty seventeen just because it
was about eight years ago and I like even numbers.
Colorado was ranked twenty first in the nation in terms
of violent crime statistics. And what I mean by those
is that how many crimes occur per one hundred thousand
of populations. So Colorado's population has been reacing a little
(03:00):
bit faster than the national average since twenty seventeen. But
Colorado moved from twenty first in twenty seventeen to fifth
in twenty twenty four, and no other state has jumped
that far that fast. So something unusual is going on
in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Now, I know that you are a statistics guy. You
are the man who crunches the numbers and looks at
all this stuff. And are you just leaving it up
to us to decide if it was the disastrous criminal
justice reform bill that could have led us down this
path or disastrous let them all go. Free policies by
district attorneys that have let us here.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You're just gonna let us draw our own conclusions.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, I like to draw Let it people draw your
own conclusions. Again, I have opinions and ex or Twitter
or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I have.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I've got a paid subscriber, so I have my limited number,
and so I'm not gonna pose my opinions on people.
I like people to look at the information and draw
their own. But you're right, there's been changes here with
our one party rule, our you know, slap on the
hand type approach to criminals and everything I mentioned off
earlier that you know, microeconomics is all about incentives and
(04:12):
different in disincentives and what we have not done a
good job of providing disincentives for people in Colorado to
commit crime. So when you look at the stats, now,
you know we have a cast old and in our
state every eighteen minutes. That was in twenty twenty four,
but if you go back to twenty twenty two, it
was every nine minutes, and so things are improving a
(04:34):
little bit, but compared to you know, where we were
in twenty seventeen. It's just chalk and cheese. It's just
very different. Things have changed in Colorado then, you know that,
and comments about the possible causes are very obvious. I mean,
the team that's in charge in today's you know, one
party rules, no checks and balances. We have an attorneys
(04:57):
who's soft on crime, to put it bluntly, and and
the left side of the islas has approaches to punishment
at criminal justice that just don't work.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I would agree with you wholeheartedly on that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I asked Mike OFFI ar, sid, Why'd you choose twenty seventeen,
because I would be very interested in just seeing the
data since twenty nineteen, when we truly became a one
party rule state. Do you have that broken out? I mean,
what is the trend? There is the trend as dramatic?
I guess.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It is with the FBI gives it on a annual basis.
So I've looked at twenty nineteen twenty nineteen. The jump
from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen wasn't great. The huge
jump in twenty twenty and the problem with the FBI
is that in twenty twenty one, a lot of states
didn't seem to report crimes for whatever reason because the COVID, Yeah,
(05:54):
COVID and stuff. But for example, California, which is right
up there with US, I mean, they had in twenty twenty.
You know, they traditionally have one hundred and seventy plus
thousand violent crimes each year. In twenty twenty one on
the FBI databases only thirty six thousand crimes, but then
in twenty twenty two they jump up to one hundred
and ninety four thousand. So sometimes there's a little bit
(06:15):
of inconsistency from year to year. So I don't like
to just compare one year to another. I like to
look over a period of time. But you're right after
after twenty nineteen, really starting in twenty twenty and going
through that COVID year, twenty twenty two was really bad
year for Colorado, and then it's eased a bit in
twenty three, dropped by about a nine hundred violent crimes
(06:37):
from twenty two to twenty three, and then it's dropped
by another one hundred and thirty one from twenty three
to twenty four. So the damage was all done in
twenty one and twenty two in the state and that
was the peak of the One Party's let's make it
harder for people to own guns and defend themselves, and
let's make it easier for people who commit offenses to
(07:00):
And I get up quickly and try again.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
No, I was gonna say, Mike, I think that we've
reaped what we've sown on this and and I appreciate
and I told Mike this, I'm I'm glad you have
time to sit around and crunch these numbers and do
these statistics.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So people are thinking, Holy, gets off the gross and
I can go outside and do some of the things
that don't involve looking at a screen.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But yeah, thank you, I appreciate it. Follow Mike on X.
It's just Mo Donald, right, m O d doneal Mo Donald.
Follow him for great information, Mike. I'm sure we'll talk
again soon.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Okay, thanks Mandy, all right, thank you. That is Mike
o'donald
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