09-08-25 FULL SHOW - An Ugly Win Is A Win, And Let's Talk About Section 8

The Broncos get an ugly win, we are spending a ton on Section 8, and we're spending Coloradans are on the hook for illegal immigrant healthcare? 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell and KOA ninety one FM.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Got Saddy Can the Nice Three.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
By Donald sad Thing.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome, Local, Welcome to a Monday edition of the show.
I am your host, Mandy Connell, and I'm joined, of
course by my right hand man, decked out in orange
and blue to celebrate a very questionable win, Anthony Rodriguez,
you can call him a rod Monday.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
And today we will take you right up until three
p m.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
When KOA Sports will take over and do a deep
dive on yesterday's Broncos win.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
It was a W, but it might be a lowercase W. Anthony.
We'll get on that and just say no.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Just saying a W'SW, not taking anything way, but in
the grand scheme of things, that might have been a
lowercase W for the Broncos. I'll tell you why I'm
glad it happened right after we talk about what's in
the blog and where to find it. Find the blog
by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com.
Look for the headline that says nine to eight to

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twenty five blog and ugly win is a win. And
let's talk about section eight. Click on that and here
are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Are you doing with much in office?

Speaker 6 (01:26):
Half of America? All with ships and clipments?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Say that's going to press plant today on the blog?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
And ugly win still counts? Section eight pays how much scrolling? Scrolling?
The Feds want to know how much we are spending
on illegal immigrant healthcare? Democrats are hemorrhaging voters. What words
can you never spell right? If you live to teach
the if you'd like to teach the trades, got a
spelling era there? Denver City Council may give impounded cars

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new life another way dia Galge's customers. When the wicked
witch is fighting for all of us? Colorado River Basin
is under serious stress. Leaf papers, it's almost your time?
Will this be the violent criminal that breaks the camel's back?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Scrolling?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Howard Stern punked the news we have our first millennial saint.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Could this be a sign of what's to come in
the midterms?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Opeck.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Once it's market share back, you can fight dementia. Why
did that man give that ball to that horrible woman?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
News?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Important to my daughter. McDonald's is starting a fast food price.
Warn that dude who likes to fight women won't take
a DNA test. We are beyond over, beyond meat. Why
is this a thing? Scrolling smuggling La Boo Boo dolls
is a thing now when rats find poison interpretive dance
at a city council meeting. William Shatner's version of rocket

(02:47):
Man is something, y'all. I don't hate this version of
the anthem. This dude has built an entire town for
his cats. Those are the headlines on the blog Andy's
dot com. Yes, thank you, Nancy, We appreciate you. Nance.
I'm gonna be sad when she's out of Congress completely
because do we still get.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
To use that? Yeah, she's gone. What about you? Just
did you just say that?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I know?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
But what I mean, seriously, she's been sidelined right now.
I mean, she's she's no longer the powerhouse she once was,
like a mascot. Now they've handed the reins over to
Hakeem Jeffries, who's just basically dropped them on the ground
and is just stepping on them. So yes, I am,
I am here to do that, and I just talked
to you right now. Christian Toto is gonna Happy, is

(03:37):
gonna join us at two thirty, because right before the
show started, I saw a column of his and I'm
gonna add to the blog about what Howard Stern did
this morning, and I want to We're gonna get to
the Broncos game for just a moment. I know there
are those of you in the audience who are like, this.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Isn't a spots show.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Why are you talking about spots Because during football season,
there's no bigger story in Denver than the Broncos just
the way it is.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
So this morning, Howard Stern.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
It's been widely reported, It's been all over the news.
It's like, oh, we're going to get an update on
September eighth from Howard Stern about his career y Serious Now,
Howard Stern has had some wildly lucrative deals with Sirious
since he jumped ship to leave to restaural Radio to
go to satellite radio. And when he first came over

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it made a lot of sense for Serious because leaving
terrestural Radio, he was really at the height of his
popularity at that moment, and he brought a lot of
subscribers with him a whole bunch.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
But now serious is seeing really.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Big competition from Spotify, from iHeart, from other fleet free
platforms that have podcasts on them. So people are now,
why am I going to pay for that when I
can get it for free kind of thing, even though
they can't get Howard. There's just a lot more competition
in the industry. So this morning I get up and
the first headline I see, very first headline of the
day I see, is this one. Howard Stern walks away

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from SiriusXM after two decades.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Y'all right?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Next to it, this headline, Howard Stern returns to Sirius
XM radio show after trolling listeners. Let me fix that
headline for you. Howard Stern returns to Sirius XM radio
show after trolling the news media.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Because that's what happened, because if you google.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Howard Stern leaves Sirius XM, you will see dozens of
news stories written by reporters who wanted to be first.
And what Howard Stern did this morning, I gotta say,
as an old radio pro myself, hats off Howard thing
being although I would have known immediately that this was
a gag, so he got.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Andy Cohen of Bravo Fame to.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Pretend that he was taking over Howard's show and Howard's timeslot,
and Andy apparently did a great job talking about how
the handoff should have been smoother, YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
But then Howard came on and was like mean or Nina,
I'm still here.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
But Christian Toto is not buying, not buying what Howard
Stern is selling, and he wrote a pretty scathing column
about it. We'll talk to him this afternoon at two thirty.
But I gotta tell you this is so on brand
for Howard Stern, it's not even funny. But the reality
is is that the radio that I started in back
in nineteen ninety seven, right, That's how long I've been

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at this game. It's it's such a different industry now
that it was before for many many people. And the
big deals five hundred million dollars from series, There's no
way Howard Stern got that kind of money. So my
guess is he took a considerable pay cut. So we'll
talk to a Christian about that at two thirty. But
can we talk about yesterday's Broncos game? Yike's Anthony, Yikes.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I'm sorry. Did they lose?

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Wait, no, they won, They got the W.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
But we have to talk about the obvious issues that
the Broncos have, the main one being the offense.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Before you a couple of teams for you. The Baltimore
Ravens can't say Chiefs. Yeah, the Detroit Lions. Those are
some really good teams.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I'm not saying that good teams didn't lose yesterday and
that the Broncos won. The Broncos did win, But here's
why I'm glad it happened like it did. The offense
was to say, anemic is downplaying what the word anemic
is all about.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah, terrible. Yeah, but the defense was just lights out.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Thank god.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
The defense is so good, so good they will be okay,
we've at least got that in our camp. We only
have to fix one thing, and that's the offense. They
will be the best defense in the I think so too.
But that being said, I'm glad yesterday happened like it
happened for two reasons. Number one, and I just said
this to our boss, Brenda Egger. I was like, Brenda,

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it almost looked to me like Bonnicks has been believing
his own press hundred percent, and he got humbled yesterday
in a big way.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I was in a rare camp during camp when we
were hearing from Sean Payton, a lot of the players,
a lot of the media about.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
This being a Super Bowl contender. I thought it'd be premature.
I did. I still do.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
You look at the teams last night they played Ravens
and Bills. The Broncos offense has a lot of ground
to make up. Having said that, yeah, if they were
playing you know, twenty seven other teams, they probably lose.
They were grateful to be playing the Tennessee Titans yesterday.
But at the same time, Bonnicks said yesterday that he
can dial he had good vision on those interceptions. He

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was aggressive because he believed that he essentially that he
could and that he knows he can dial it back
a bit because he doesn't want to put the defense
in bad spots.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
So it's not like it was, oh my gosh, he
has no idea what he's doing.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
He's throwing up you know, I know, I know others
are saying that he that you know, oh my gosh,
you look terrible.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Division is bad. He was aggressive. He was just aggressive.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
It was the perfect thing that could have happened for
two reasons. Number one, we still got the win, right,
we still got the win.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
We walked out. We're one to zero.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
That's fantastic. But it happened early in the season. So
the reality check, because that's what that was yesterday, that
was a reality check, gives the offense opportunities to drill
down on the things that they did very badly yesterday
and fix those issues. If it happened at the end
of the season and the playoffs, whatever, that would be terrible.
This is the best case scenario to have a sobering,

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gut check game very beginning of the season, still get
the win, be able to see that your defense is
going to be able to pick you up through your mistakes,
which were significant yesterday. I thought overall it was a
best case scenario for an offense that just isn't where
it needs to be.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Nine out of ten times you lose when you turn
the ball over five yes, four yeah time.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
You a were able to to correct off of a
win is always one of the best things.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yep. And now you're going to go to Indy with
a colts team that looked pretty dang good yes day
with Daniel Jones against that really bad Miami Dolphins team.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
But you won the game. That's why I can't watch
The Dolphins are just so bad. By the way. The
worst thing you happen to see that Florida.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
State won again on Saturday, Anthony, they played a Bob's
Barber College. Yeah no, actually, what did you talk about this?
So they played East Texas A and M University, which
I didn't even know was a university. Okay, after scheduling
Alabama first, they're like, oh, we'll take it easy. The
second week score was seventy to three. Okay, seventy points
to zero in the fourth quarter. But I want to

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the reason I want to even bring this up, and
it kind of goes a little bit to yesterday's game.
Back in the day, back in the late seventies, when
Bobby Bowden took over the Florida State program, he said
the first thing he did when he took over the
team was called every major powerhouse in the area, every
powerhouse school, and say, look, we want to play you guys,

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come to a home and home at your place if
we need to. But the only way to get better
is by playing people that are a lot better than
you are. Right, So the first few years were an
absolute disaster for Florida State when he took over, but
they kept getting better, kept getting better, kept getting bigger.
And at the beginning, he said, every time before, we
were about to go play a team that was so
much better than we were. So we were outmanned, we

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were out matched, we were out spent on facilities and
everything else. But we had to go play these games.
I would say to my players, you are probably not
going to get a victory this week, but you go
out and you play as hard as you can, and
you are going to be a better football player by
the end of it. Right, Just playing the game against
someone that is far superior to you makes you a
better player. East Texas A and M University walk down

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on that field on Saturday, and this is how.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
The team looked.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Well, we're here to cash a check and get our
butts kicked. They were flat, there was no energy, they
had nothing going for them, and that is.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
The coach's fault.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
Well, and that right there is why, even though I
said I didn't believe all the building up of the
hype of being a superral contender in training camp. We
here for the Broncos doesn't mean I disagree with saying it,
because if you set the bar, we want to we
want to maybe make it to the second round this year. Well,
if you get to the second round, what are you
going to do after that? Set the bar high? If
you don't mean it, you got a bar continue to
want to get to. But the Broncos should absolutely be

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thinking they're a super Bowl contending team because if the
offense gets to a competent level, yep, and they play
with that defense, they are a Superble content.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I just want to point out to everybody in this
listing audience, Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring. He
has a ring as a mediocre barely got it done
quarterback because his defense in Baltimore was unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Mandy will make it more local. Twenty fifteen, Peyton Manning
has a Super Bowl ring. Correct because of that defense. Yep,
Peyton was not good that year.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
People.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
If the Broncos offense can be competent, even in today's
NFL with offenses like we saw last night in Baltimore
and Buffalo, if the Broncos offense get competent, that is
how good this defense is going to be one of
the best teamers can be seen in a long time. Yeah,
so they've got some work to do, but they don't
have to be tops in the NFL. They just have
to be competent and not have four turnovers.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Thank you. That's exactly my point. Work to do.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
But that's okay, perfect, perfect way you got to win.
But you know exactly what's wrong.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
And a lot of good teams have a lot of
work to do. That are really good teams that are
on one today.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
I gotta tell you, I was I was looking at
the scores last night. Very few offenses look like they
were doing anything. I mean we had a lot of
like sixteen, thirteen, twelve, nine, I mean we had a
lot of low scoring games yesterday.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Week one in the NFL is notoriously weird. You just
want to win the game at the end of the day.
The bottom line after Week one, if the offense looks
like this in week nine, we're having a different conversation
week one.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Mind you, the preseason has one last game.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Now, it's still kind of preseason mode, especially for an
office that didn't get a lot of run.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Let's be patient, yep, there you go. So that's our
Broncos talk. It's over now for the three of you
that are complaining on the text line already, I realize
you guys, what is football?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Who cares?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Irrelevant? It's our national pastime now it is? Anyway, Oh
is this a sports show?

Speaker 8 (14:02):
Now?

Speaker 9 (14:02):
You know?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
What a rod?

Speaker 5 (14:03):
We're gonna do three hours of sports right now just
because this guy.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
We can.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
I can, but I don't want to. I did sports
radio for three years.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
That was enough.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
It's so repetitive, just the same conversations to just insert
different names or whatever. The guys in the afternoon make
it far more interesting than I think it should be
if you ask me.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Honestly.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Anyway, I got a lot of stuff on the blog today.
I do have a couple of things. Today's one of
those shows. As a matter of fact, I thought about
doing this the other day and I just remembered it
right now. For those of you have already read the blog,
what story would you like me to talk about next?
You can text us at five six six nine. Now
what interests you? What caught your eye as you read

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the blog. If you haven't read the blog, you're about
to have a few minutes here at the bottom of
the hour when you can peruse the blog and decide
what stories you.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Want me to talk about.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I think I should reward the people, and they are
there's a lot of people who read the blog every day.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
I'm pretty sure I have people who read the blog
who do not listen to the show.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I'm almost positive I do, because I have people who
comment on Facebook and Twitter that clearly don't listen to
the show because of the commentary that they're making, or
if they listen, they're not paying attention, right. But I
figure I should reward you blog readers by asking your opinion,
what story should we talk about in the next segment

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five six six nine, Oh, you can text us on
the Common Spirit health text line Mandy, did you not
watch Bill Bill's Eagles?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (15:30):
No, Bill's were Ravens. The Bill's and Ravens game Bill's Ravens.
I did not watch the end of it.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
One of the best games I've seen a long time.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I fell asleep really early last night, at like eight
point thirty in my chair.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I was just done. I was like, I'm out. I know,
I'm old.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
I used to ask my dad years.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Ago I'd be like, Dad, why how do you fall asleep?
In my dad would fall asleep in his chair in
the middle of a sentence during a conversation.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
He was just kinda drift off, and I was like, Dad, how.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's not even possible. How do you even do that?
Guess who does it? Now?

Speaker 5 (16:04):
And it goes like this, be a little tired, sit
in a comfortable chair, fall asleep.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
That's pretty much hit.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
All right.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I've already got somebody weighing in at five six six,
and I know about what we're going to talk about next.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
But you're gonna have to wait and see what it is.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Right after this, I do want to respond to this
Texter or Mandy Bob's barber College, and the BBC mascot.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Is of course they're the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Duh.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Everybody knows that. Anyway.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
In the next segment, by popular demand, I've got two
stories that I would have talked about, but now I
can't get to the blog, but I remember them, although
one of them, Oh, here we go, it's back up,
it's back up. So I want to talk for a
moment about Section eight housing. Section eight Housing is a
program that initially was designed to assist people with their

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rent and give them a lower housing costs to prevent
them from being homeless. And I think that's an admirable goal.
The program's been around for a very long time and
has been a part of the social safety net for
a very long time. Well, a couple of things were
happening with Section eight housing, and one of them comes

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directly from the the HUD Secretary. HUD is Housing and
Urban Development. Scott Turner is a former NFL player and
I'm going to be the first to admit he was
one of the appointments by Donald Trump that I was like,
what I didn't I just didn't understand it. But I

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got to tell you after hearing this exchange, I am
all for Scott Turner as HUD secretary. And here he
is talking about Section eight housing and overall welfare benefits overall.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Can I have my audio? Are I give him my computer?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Listen to this?

Speaker 9 (17:51):
Send in all these club programs that you know, this
is really the only avenue they have mom to get house.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Are you talking about the proposed time limits?

Speaker 8 (17:57):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
And what is her question?

Speaker 9 (17:59):
Just if there's any concern about whether you're, you know,
to be pushing out families.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
That you've noticed, no concern at all. Government subsidies were
never meant to be a lifestyle. Have you ever met
somebody to live in government housing?

Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm going to stop it there because I want you
to hear how long this pause is by the reporter
after he says, if you ever met anybody who's lives
in government housing?

Speaker 5 (18:21):
So we just asked a questions. Listen to how long
the pause is.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Personally, I have enough.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
I meant hundreds of people around their country. Government subsidies
were never meant to be a hammock. They're meant to
be a trampoline. We're always going to have people in
our nation that need help, and.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
We understand that from the heart of hood. We understand it.

Speaker 7 (18:46):
We'll have these people. I met a young lady in
a certain city in our country that's been living in
a certain housing project, which was deplorable. She's fifty two
years old. She's been living there since nineteen fifty three.
Excuse me, she's fifty two years old. She's been living
there since nineteen seventy three. She's able body, able minded,
she was raised there, she lived there, now, she's raising

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her children there.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
There's three generations living in government subsidies.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
That are able body, able minded. That's not the way
that our government and our country is supposed to be.
And so when you talk about time limits, time limits
are kind of an encouragement.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's like, hey, you can do this.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
No, remember, we're talking about able body, able minded people,
not seniors, not to disable, people who are able to work,
people who have the ability to work, people who have
the mental acuity to work and look for work.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
Right when you.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
Change the trajectory of someone's future by saying you know what,
we're not just telling you the work.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
We're gonna have workforce training around you.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
We're gonna have skill training around you to get out
of government subsidies to live a life of self sustainability.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
This is not.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
Democrat, it's not republican. Poverty has no party. You understand,
Poverty is not red, it's not blue, it's not black,
it's not white. It impacts everyone directly. So my heart,
the President's heart center, the crapos heart, is this, how
do we help ablebody people change the conversation?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I say, you know what you can do it?

Speaker 7 (20:19):
This is not political, this is you know what you
can So we're gonna put time limps on here and
help you to traject out of poverty, out of government subsidy,
to a life of self sustability.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
That's the heart behind this going.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Research bill Clintons Bill nineteen ninety six, when they did.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
Real well for a reform, I was just gonna bring
mine of that.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
You don't remember, you too young, So I'm going to
research that.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
That is HUD Secretary Scott Turner. So why am I
playing that?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Now?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Center Square just did a big report on Section eight
in Colorado. Now, I am a person who says, I
believe that Section eight housing is an important thing, but
I agree with the HUD secretary it should be a
temporary measure. I personally know people who have lived in
hut housing temporarily for some three four years before they

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were able to get their feet on them and get
under them and get back out on their own. But
it is, it should be a temporary proposition. And the
Center Square did some looking into what Section eight housing
vouchers would buy you.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Here in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Now, in Colorado, the program pays up to thirty eight
hundred and seventy nine dollars for a four bedroom home.
Listen to this in the eight zero nine two four
zip code, which includes Wolf Ranch. There are twenty eight
homes with four or more bedrooms for rent, ranging from
two thousand, ninety nine per month to four thousand, two

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hundred and fifty dollars per month, all but three of
which are below the three thousand, eight hundred and seventy
nine dollars per month limit. The median rent is three thousand,
two hundred and fifty dollars per month, and one example
A three thousand, two hundred fifty dollar a month home
is a five bedroom, four bathroom, three thousand, seven hundred
and ninety square foot home including a home theater, bar,

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a large fenced in yard, and a three car garage. Y'all,
I don't have a home theater a rod. Do you
have a home theater in your house?

Speaker 9 (22:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Her parents do. Well, I'm not asking about your parents.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
No, I don't either, And yet you're telling me that
people who have Section eight housing can get that.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
Now.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I don't want people to live in slums, right, I
want people. I want people to live in housing that
is clean and safe and tidy. I was watching one
of the shows that I watched on HTTV and Ben
and Aaron from hometown were helping this woman renovate a
home that she was going to use to shelter women
who were coming out of abusive relationships and allow them

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to get back on their feet. It was it was
going to be a group housing situation. But they were
standing in the kitchen and Aaron and Ben were talking
about what they were going to do in the kitchen,
and Aaron said, well, what kind of countertipme do you
want to hear? And the lady said, I want lambin
It countertops. Now, lamin It is pretty much the cheapest
kind of countertop that you can buy. I think they
actually went with butcher block, which is also very affordable

(23:11):
but looks nicer.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
But that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
So she said, no, I want I want cheap countertops
because I don't want this house to be so nice
that when they step out to actually do something that
they can afford, it is a step down. And I
thought that was very interesting. She said, I want all
steps to feel like there is a step up. So
instead of having you know, granted countertops and all of

(23:36):
that stuff, they had a very clean, very nice, very
neatly decorated house that was done with materials that were
lower end, So when those women moved out of that house,
they would be feeling like they were stepping up and
not stepping down.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
One of the issues.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
And this is again from personal experience, not me personally,
but with people that I know and care about that
I know very very well. Getting out of the system
once you're in the system can sometimes be almost as
challenging as getting in the system. I had one friend
who was in Section eight housing after her divorce. She

(24:14):
had a lot of kids and her husband was not
a nice person, and she decided to leave and she
ended up in Section eight housing. And in her two
and a half years in Section eight housing, she went
managed to go back to school, get her degree in nursing,
and then got a really good job in nursing. Right,
so her fortunes changed dramatically in two and a half years.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
It took forever to get her name off the rolls, and.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
In doing so, while she was still on the rolls
and then now had a really good job, she's getting
all these notices that essentially she's defrauding the government when
she was clear she had all the documentations.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
She's like, I've set you.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Guys all these letters to take me out of the
system because now I'm making you know, a decent living
or whatever, and it was a nightmare for her. The
system is fundamental broken in so many ways. It's broken
in that to the secretary's point, there are people that
have made living on the government dole a lifestyle choice,
and that's wrong if they are able bodied, enable minded.

(25:13):
And I love the way you kept coming back to that.
We're not talking about displacing the elderly or the people
that are physically or mentally unable to care for themselves
in a significant way. He's talking about people that the
only thing holding them back is themselves. And this whole
exchange with the HUD secretary, for me, clearly delineates the

(25:34):
difference between the ways people on the left look at
people in poverty and the way people on the right
look at people in poverty. People on the left look
at people in poverty and say.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Oh, no, they're poor. We have to do something to
help them.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
What can we do.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
We can give them housing, Great, we've solved that problem.
We've checked that box. Their life is better off now
because of it. But that's where it stops, right, it
doesn't you don't stop to say, what are we doing
to their sense of responsibility, to their sense of self
worth when we don't allow people to pay their own
way in any way shape or form. People on the
right see able minded, able bodied people and say there's potential,

(26:15):
and all we have to do is help them tap
into their own potential so they no longer need our
assistance going forward, and in a perfect world, they will
become tax paying citizens whose tax dollars will go to
help other people that started out where they did. And
I think that's a pretty big fundamental difference. I hope
you heard the audio that I played from HUTS Secretary

(26:37):
Scott Turner about requiring able bodied, able minded people to
have a time limit on how much time they spend
in Section eight housing, and I.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Agree with that.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
I actually think, like if I could wave a magic
wand right now, and I've thought about this for honestly
for two decades now, welfare reform is not just about
telling people they can't have access to welfare anymore.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's just not going to work. It's not going to
be effective.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
But the big problem with welfare as it is right now,
including Section eight housing, is that if you all of
a sudden go out and you start making too much money,
they're going.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
To take away your welfare benefits.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
And often what happens is and I'm going to use
an example that's a real life example. So I know
a young woman who at the time was a team worker,
a team member at McDonald's. She had gotten a part
time job when her kids went to school so she
could be there for her kids and everything.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
It was, you know, she's in the welfare program.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I interviewed this young woman, and I interviewed her in
two thousand and seven, maybe in Florida. So she's a
team member, and her manager at the McDonald saw something
in her and said, you know, I think if you
really wanted to have a career with McDonald's, you can
do a really great job. And I'd like to make
you an assistant manager. And that assistant manager job came
with a very modest raise.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
But that modest raise was.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Enough to knock her off of her food benefits, the
snap benefits, so she relied on to pay for her children.
Because it is an all or nothing situation, right, you
either get welfare benefits or you don't. If we could
institute a step down program for welfare benefits, like oh,
you got to raise it work. We're gonna reduce those
snap benefits by X amount of dollars, but not the

(28:14):
whole thing, because what ends up happening is now you've
trapped this woman who her manager at McDonald's has said,
you have potential, and if you want to make a
career in McDonald's, you can do it.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
And by the way, McDonald's has some of.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
The best workforce development opportunities of any franchise operation. I
know more than one person who started out as an
employee at McDonald's and ended up owning at McDonald's. Right,
so don't laugh at McDonald's. But she had been kind
of targeted and said, look, you have potentially you can
do this job. Only because of her financial situation with
her welfare benefits and the modest rays to assistant manager,

(28:48):
she couldn't do it, and that prevents from becoming a manager,
It prevents her from becoming a regional manager, It prevents
her from becoming a store owner because she couldn't make
that one jump. What we have to do is allow
people to step down their benefits, and until we can
figure out how to do that in a reasonable fashion,
we are trapping people on welfare we are trapping people

(29:10):
in section eight housing. And don't get me wrong, there
are plenty of people in Section eight housing. You plan
on making it a lifestyle because once you get the
same thing as rent control in New York, the people
that are in rent control departments for five hundred bucks,
that's they're perfectly fine with that. At least that's private
property being hit instead of the government. We need to
overhaul the same thing, but starting with time limits. I'm

(29:32):
here for it and recognizing what these benefits do and
the fact that and I went and looked at this quote.
I love this quote from Ben Franklin, and I think
it fits perfectly here. Ben Franklin once said, I am
for doing good for the poor, but I think the
best way of doing good to the poor is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them

(29:56):
out of it. I observed that the more public provisions
were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves,
and of course became poorer. And on the contrary, the
less was done for them, the more they did for
themselves and became richer.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Then Franklin knew it way back then. We should all
know it now.

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Speaker 4 (30:42):
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Speaker 5 (30:45):
I'm your host, Mandy Connall.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
That guy over there decked out in his Broncos orange
is Anthony Rodriguez. And together we'll take you right up
until three pm when we hand the show over to
the sports station. We already did our sports for the day,
so if you missed the beginning of the show, you're
gonna have to go back and lit listen to the podcast,
which will be available right after the show on the
Crystal Clear iHeartRadio app. Now, this is apropos of nothing,

(31:08):
but I do want to kind of throw this out here.
The ten year Treasury note just dropped to just barely
over four percent. Why am I telling you this because
with the ten year Treasury note drops interest rates on mortgages.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
That is the number that mortgages are paid to.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
And I just looked there are mortgage rates for the
thirty year mortgage at the five point nine percent rate. Now,
I don't know what you're going to qualify for I
really don't. But if you've been sitting on the sidelines
waiting to buy a house, I am telling you right now,
if you wait too long, if you wait for mortgage
rates to go any any lower, you're going to be

(31:49):
part of the feeding frenzy in the market. Because there's
a lot of people on the sidelines who are like, look,
six percent is just too much for me to pay.
But as soon as those mortgage rates go below six
then all bets are off. Feeding frenzy in the housing market.
It's going to be crazy because we have the houses
to sell right now. So if I were you, if
I was buying a house right now, or even if

(32:11):
I was considering doing you know, a cash out refire
or something like that, I would call today to lock
in this mortgage rate. I would just call American Financing
right now. This is not a commercial for American Financing.
You guys know I love real estate. You know I
pay attention to this stuff just as a hobby, and
I do. But when I saw that Treasury rate, I'm like,
I bet mortgage rates are below six percent. So if
you've been waiting, call today, lock in the rate.

Speaker 9 (32:34):
Just do it.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Do it anyway. I've got to talk.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
About a story that is so disturbing on multiple levels, and.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
It's the story of a young Ukrainian refugee, twenty three
years old, Arena Zarutska. This happened in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Zarutska was leaving work and got on the Charlotte light
rail train and sat down and was looking at her phone,

(33:08):
not doing anything, minding her own business. And the video
that is making the rounds now shows her sitting down
in front of an African American man in a hoodie
who is directly behind her. And you can watch this
man very casually take something out of his pocket. You

(33:28):
realize it's like a pocket knife or whatever, and he
opens up the blade and then he stands up and
he stabs this woman three times, once in the throat.
She is dead now, twenty three year old woman, completely
and utterly unprovoked attack.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
That is all on video.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
If you're the sort he wants to see the whole thing,
that video is out there as well.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I did not embed it.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
I'm not publishing it. It's just not something I'm going
to share. Hey, Rud, when you're on X, do you
have I feel like now, and I don't follow any
of these people, right, But people that I do follow
are retweeting videos of people getting killed or getting hit
by a train or whatever. I don't want to see
that in my life.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Oh I immediately unfollow. I did too. I don't want
to see and.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
I'm just but I'm not following the people in the
original video. I'm following people and then they're retweeting it.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
If you are a part of Broncos Country and you
are a horn dog, please stop.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Oh god?

Speaker 8 (34:28):
What?

Speaker 6 (34:28):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of a lot of a
lot of guys in Broncos Country. I don't feel the
need to not just enjoy themselves, but to repurpose it
for all the thing.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Like whatever you want to follow in your own account,
I don't care. Like if you want to watch us,
if that's fine. But when other people are following you
because of other content that you've created, whether it's you know,
there's one guy that I love who does this beautiful
nature photography, or he's stealing beautiful nature photography from someone else,
and all of a sudden, it's like all these death videos,
which is why I now believe he was stealing all

(34:59):
those photos from other people, right, this.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Guy has no original ideas.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I'm not going to see it. I didn't embed it
on the blog. It's horrible. It's out there though. Here's
the problem with his story. The first level number one,
level number one when people started pointing out that this
story happened in that thirty four year old de Carlos Brown,
who has now been charged with first degree murder, had
a long criminal history, including armed robbery, felony, larcenae, breaking

(35:24):
and entering. He recently had an arrest and was charged
with the misuse of nine to one one.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
What happened.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
He allegedly asked officers to investigate a man made material
that controlled when he ate walked and talked.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Officers told Brown.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
The issue was a medical issue and there was nothing
more they could do. He became upset and called nine
to one one. Obviously, this guy is extremely mentally ill,
but yet he was walking around the streets of Charlotte,
North Carolina, just like we've had people here in Denver, Colorado,
walking around the streets of the Sixteenth Street Mall, and
it was still the sixteenth Street Mall, stabbing a flight

(36:02):
attendant to death in the middle of the day. What's
frustrating for me is that this story of a black
man killing a young white Ukrainian refugee has been absolutely buried,
and when asked about it, news media outlets all over
the country are saying things like, well, it's a local story.
So was the death of Michael Brown, so was the

(36:24):
death of George Floyd. One hundred percent local stories, but
they certainly made national news.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
But the problem here is that this gentleman is black, so.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Therefore we don't get the same kind of coverage of
this horrific crime that is on video.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Oh you guys, the mayor.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Of Charlotte, North Carolina, who by the way, has always
presented herself as a social justice warrior at every opportunity,
first of all, posted something on Twitter that was so
weak it was mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Listen to this.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
This is a first statement.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
The video of the heartbreaking attack that took Arena Zarutzki's
life is now public. I want to thank our media
partners and community members who have chosen not to repost
or share the footage out of respect for Arena's family.
This was a senseless and tragic loss. My prayers remain
with her loved ones as they continue to grieve through

(37:24):
an unimaginable time. Like so many of you, I'm heartbroken,
and I've been thinking hard about what safety really looks
like in our city. I remain committed to doing all
we can to protect our residents and ensure Charlotte is
a place where everyone feels safe. Is that just the
most garbage nonsense statement you have ever heard?

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
It gets better, It gets better. And I don't know
when this statement came out. I think it probably came
out after the statement that she made on X. And
in this statement about this one line mentions the fact
that a young woman is dead, and it's this one
first and foremost, my thoughts and prayers go out to

(38:09):
the young woman's family and friends.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Didn't even use her name.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
And then she goes on.

Speaker 9 (38:16):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Then she goes on to talk about how.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
For the most part, Charlotte is a safe city, the
light rail is a safe transit system. I bet Arena
doesn't feel safe today. She also says this, this is
a tragic situation that sheds light on problems with society
safety nets related to mental health care and the systems

(38:44):
that should be in place as we come to understand
what happened and why we must look at the entire situation.
While I do not know the specifics of the man's
medical record, would have come to understand is that he
has long struggled with mental health and appears to have
suffered a crisis. This was the unfortunate and tragic outcome.
While there are questions about the safety and security of

(39:06):
our transit system and our city, I do know there
have been significant and sustained efforts to address safety and
security within our transit system and.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Across our city.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Then she goes on after she talks about how safe
Charlotte is to say this, I want to be clear
that I am not villainizing those who struggle with their
mental health or those who are unhoused. Mental health disease
is just that, a disease like any other, that needs
to be treated with the same compassion, diligence, and commitment
as cancer or heart disease. Our community must work to

(39:41):
address the underlying issue of access to mental health care. So,
just so you understand what she wants you to do.
She wants you to ignore the fact that someone randomly
got stabbed on the neck on light rail. She wants
you to make sure that you don't stigmatize the man
who decided, in a fit of whatever to stab a

(40:03):
young woman in the.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Neck for no reason. This is the most backwards logic.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Of all time.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
And don't get me wrong, you guys.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I think we've talked about mental health on this show
enough so that you guys know I not only have
a lot of familial experience with mental health. I am
one of those people that, even as a libertarian, am
advocating for forced confinement for someone who has demonstrated that

(40:32):
they are mentally ill and potentially violent. That doesn't mean
forced confinement for people who are mentally ill and are
trying to deal with those issues in a way that
doesn't negatively impact.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Strangers on the street.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Lots of people have mental illness, even severe mental illness,
and they never demonstrate the capability of violence.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Okay, so let's be clear about that. But there are mentally.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Ill people like this man who are so detached from
reality that they cannot be trusted in society because doing
so puts others at risk. These are people who are
so mentally ill that they are incapable of making decisions
for themselves. The same way that we protect children from
bad decision making by not allowing them to sign contracts

(41:18):
or be held liable for such contracts. We have to
recognize that there are people who are so significantly mentally
ill that they cannot make reasonable, rational decisions on their
own behalf, and of that percentage of people, there are
a number of people who have proven themselves to be
violent and dangerous, and we should be okay removing those

(41:40):
people from society until they show that they have sufficiently
recovered from that mental illness that they no longer pose
a danger to themselves or someone else, or maybe never.
There are people who are never going to get better.
There are people who are always going to remain a threat,

(42:00):
and we have to figure something out. But just sitting
here and talking about it, don't be mad at the
homeless people. Don't be mad at the mentally ill. I'm
not mad at any of those people. I'm mad that
this man who has a violent criminal history was let
out on the streets to murder this young woman. Talk
about a death that did not need to happen. And
this is the same stuff that's happening in Denver, you guys,

(42:23):
this is the same exact stuff we have These crazy people. Now,
don't get me wrong, we have a lot of crazy
people walking around downtown Denver. If you have a driven
and seen them so whacked out on drugs or just
insanity that they're just wandering around. If they're wandering around,
some of them are just bent in half, standing there,
bent in half. But you see those people that are

(42:43):
wandering around, they're yelling at each other, yelling at themselves,
wandering around in the middle of an intersection, dressed in
a blanket.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
That happened to me.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
I mean, I wasn't wandering around the street and dressed
in a blanket. I'm just saying we've seen the crazy people.
Not all those people are dangerous, but we need to
take the danger one's out of circulation until such time
as they can be trusted to be let out in
society again. And this should not be a controversial issue.

(43:12):
But watching people. By the way, there's a go fund me.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
For this man.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, someone started to go fund me
for him so that we could fight against.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
The racism of the system.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Now, this man.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Is on video stabbing a woman to death on a train,
and yet there are people in our society that think
the problem is racism. Now, I would doubt I'm just
gonna say it, I doubt that that any of this
money will ever go to this guy. Seems to me
like a grift by someone who decided to put up
a GoFundMe for idiots to donate to.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
I forgot to look and see. Hang on to Carlos
Brown go fund me.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Let me see if it's.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Still up, because I looked at it early. Oh go,
and he took it down. Thank you, Thank you, Go
fund me, Thank you. But I'm wondering how.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
Much was actually collected.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
By that, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Go fund Me, by the way, has also set up
a page for Arena Zurutska's family, and that's raised about
one hundred thousand dollars right now, So I mean that's good.
Although I if I'm a parent or a sister or whatever,
I don't want money. I want my family member back,
you know. Anyway, I'm trying to see how much money

(44:39):
has been raised for her, and I can't get to
that point. So we'll see ninety thousand dollars raised of
a one hundred and ten thousand dollar coal This is
another example of the wave of criminal justice reform that
happened in this country. That all it did was make
it easier for people to commit crimes and get away

(45:01):
with it. What's really funny about this Axios. Listen to
the headline on Axios about this dabbing video fuels Maga's
crime message, as if somehow this one event was what
engineered by you know, Maga, people who are actually concerned

(45:24):
about crime, as if to make the point even stronger. Yeah,
it makes Maga's point. But it makes Maga's point because
a young woman is senselessly attacked and murdered on video. Right,
if you're concerned about about a violent crime, this sort
of does. It is the giant punctuation mark on this.
You know, I read something yesterday and I could not

(45:45):
find it today because honestly, I couldn't remember where I
read it or I wrote it. But it was an
interesting take, and the take was that Donald Trump has
proven to be masterful at putting Democrats on the twenty
side of an eighty twenty issue, and crime is now
one of those. You know, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser, I

(46:06):
have to give it to her. She recognized an opportunity
and she has taken it. She actually was talking day
before yesterday about the fact that carjackings in d C,
which by the way, were happening at like two and
a half carjackings per day, and that was down dramatically.
Carjackings have ceased to exist in Washington, DC because they've

(46:26):
got all these federal forces there. They've they freed up
law enforcement officers to go and actually arrest the bad criminals.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
And now all of a sudden, there's no crime. And
yet when Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Says two democratic mayors, democratic democratic governors, hey, guys, if
you need it, we can bring the National Guard in,
the Democrats are like, Nope, crime is just fine, especially
in Charlotte where a young lady just got stabbed in
the neck.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
It's insane.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
But Axios, listen to this from Axios. This made me
kind of laugh out loud today. I'm not exaggerating. Mad
influencers on repeated attention to violent attacks to elevate the
issue of urban crime, and accused mainstream media of undercovering
shocking cases. By the way, the mainstream media has not
covered this story at all. As I said before, They're like, oh,

(47:14):
local story, we don't care, and then they go on
driving the news. President Trump asked about the Charlotte video
by reporter on Sunday said he wanted to find out
more about the stabbing before commenting. Now, that sentence right
there completely undermines everything that actually US is trying to
say that somehow Republicans have seized on this crime. Isn't

(47:36):
that what they're implying here? But Trump didn't take the
baby's like, look, you know what, I don't know all
the details. All know everything by tomorrow. So yeah, yeah,
this is going to be a thing that people are
talking about because why is this okay at any level,
on any any any way or shape or form. Why
wouldn't JB. Pritsker say, you know what, we'd love to

(47:59):
get yet, we'd love to get the National Guard to
come into the dangerous areas of Chicago, not just the
tourist zones, but the dangerous areas to protect the people
that are victimized by crimes every single day. My big
beef with what's going on in Washington, DC is apparently
it's only in the tourist areas, It's not in the
highest crime parts of Washington, d C. Don't the people

(48:23):
that live there deserve to feel safe too, not just tourists.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're doing it for
the tourists. But I wouldn't it be great if the
Democrats said, yeah, we'd like to send you into the
highest crime areas in Chicago and help us really do
some significant work.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
But they don't. They stand there and save crimes. Not
that bad.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
It's not that it's in a thirty year low. People
are still gett murdered every day. Ah, those are acceptable statistics.
And in Chicago, overwhelmingly everybody being killed is black. Ah,
They're just black people being killed.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Not that big of ill. We'll accept a few of those.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
And it's getting a horder and harder for them to
make that argument, because when you see video of this
young woman being stabbed by a career criminal who's also
wildly mentally ill, should not have been on the streets,
it gets hard to ask, why aren't we taking the
National Guard? Why aren't we doing these things? And you know,
we'll see how all this turns out. I don't think,

(49:21):
by the way, just to be clear, I do not
believe that the President of the United States has the
authority to send the National Guard into anywhere else for
any kind of law enforcement duties except for Washington, DC.
He can totally do it if governors ask. But if
he just sends them in to not support federal operations,

(49:44):
which he did in LA, then he has no right
to do that. But I don't think he's doing that yet.
Fascinating and terrible story all at once.

Speaker 6 (49:53):
Tonight Rockies Dodgers on the official home of the Rockies.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
This next text intrigues me. Uh, Mandy, ask me anything Monday. Technically,
it's not asked me anything Monday because I didn't declare it,
but I will allow it because I'm intrigued by this text. Mandy,
neighbor moved into assisted living, has an upright piano. Do
you know anyone that we can donate it to school
that has music classes student that could use it?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Any suggestions? Love your show? Thanks now, Texter.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I'm gonna tell you to email me Mandy Connell at
iHeartMedia dot com. And then if you want an upright piano,
I will tell you whoever you are to text me
Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Uh, do you want a piano?

Speaker 1 (50:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
But I have a question.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
Well, obviously I recognize what these are, but why is
it called an upright piano?

Speaker 2 (50:50):
It's just yeah?

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Instead of going out like a grand piano.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
It just is one of those that looks like you
know how you see in a Western movie they're always
plinking on a piano. Yeah, that's an upright piano. The
strings and keys are in the in the back right now. Yeah,
that's very very common. As a matter of fact, I
would venture I guess that most in home pianos are
upright pianos. Yes, because the strings and the keys are
like this instead of like that got you. You guys

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couldn't see. I held my arms up.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah that was just for me. I get it though.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Yeah, what color is it? Look at you being picky
with a free piano?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Oh I'm not. I don't want colors. Hopefully they'll email
me and I'll have more information. So there you go.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
This is really interesting and this just came across my desk,
so I'm going to jump in here. This from the
Denver Post about a Magellan Strategies poll.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
It's it's not that good.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Colorado voters are sort of over politics, and this is
actually worse for the Democrats right now than the Republicans.
It really didn't farewell. US Senators Michael Bennett, Johnick, and
Looper They each notched approval ratings below forty percent in

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the poll, with their disapproval ratings reaching forty four and
forty nine percent, respectively, forty four for Bennett, forty nine
for hiccken Looper gared polis approval later rating was slightly
better at forty one percent, but a majority of the
voters fifty two percent outright disapproved of the term limited governor.

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Not good news for a guy with presidential aspirations. Republican
and Democratic parties had identical top line favorabilities sixty eight
percent negative versus thirty percent positive, and it's just not
looking good by more than two to one margins. Colorado
voters survey didn't feel good about the Democratic Party. The

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disdain was shared by many Democratic voters. Among those who
voted for Kamala Harris for president last year, forty seven
percent reported unfavorable opinions of registered Democrats. Forty one percent
reported unfavorable opinions of their party. An anonymous Democratic woman
in a Rapahoe County characterized it inner survey response, the

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party has quote no backbone, no follow through, poor or
no response to both mundane and gripping issues, but don't
think this is going to be a smooth sailing for.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
The GOP because the GOP. Let's see here.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Loop unaffiliated voters feel the same about the GOP. Now
I'm trying to read. I'm reading a Denver Post article.
I haven't been able to click through to the actual
polling data.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
So if congressional elections.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Were held today, voters also give Democrats a clear advantage
in four of the state's eight congressional districts, the ones
currently represented by Democrats.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Those are all safe seats.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
The smaller sample size at the district level, however, came
with large margins of a more than eight percentage points. Okay,
that just undermines everything about the poll. If your margin
of error is eight percentage points, don't don't even include that.
I just that's just basically like throw a dart at
a dartboard kind of thing. The party also held a

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smaller edge for a fifth seat, and that was the
red fifth congressional district in Alpazo County. Forty seven percent
in voters said they would probably support the Democratic nominee there,
versus thirty nine percent for the Republican nominee. Now, in
twenty twenty four, Republican Jeff Crank won the seat with
nearly fifty five percent of the vote.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
I don't understand how those numbers jibe.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
The eighth shows a small advantage for the GOP, it
doesn't crack fifty percent. The fourth Congressional district looks to
remain read with THEIRS leaning Republican by twenty points, so
that neither.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Party is in a good way.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
Neither party has has great numbers to grow about.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
But I think for Democrats this has to be kind
of concerning because their democratic law in the state. Anything
that sort of undermines that has got to be caused
for concerned because right now they I mean, we just
saw it again in the special session. They have paid
no mind to anybody on the other side of the

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aisle because they haven't had to. They've been able to
ignore Republicans. But now that even Democrats are saying, yeah,
we're not happy. And don't get me wrong, I don't
think there's any chance in hell that Democrats in Colorado
will vote for a Republican. I just don't see it happening.
But we are now a majority independent state. We are

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now over fifty percent of independence last I checked. So
what are the independents going to do if the Democrats
don't even like their party, what about what about the independence?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Now we already know the Republican.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Party has an image issue here that hopefully most people
are going to be able to look beyond with new leadership.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Well, we'll have to see.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
That's kind of I think that's concerning if you're a
Democrat in Colorado. And good news, however, slight good news,
but good news nonetheless for the Republican Party.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Many of you weighing in on the upright piano.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Laugh out loud.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
I'm gonna have to pay a piano company to come
get my piano. No one wants these pianos, That's true.
Kids are not taking music lessons like they used to.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
My guess is that most in home pianos are spinets,
which is a short version of the upright piano. You
know what, maybe it's just the people I know, the
people that I know that at pianos they all have uprights.
I know one family with a spinet, which is just
a low piano. Upright piano equals wild West grand piano
equals recital piano.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
There you go, There you go, Manny.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
What's suppressing is that Democrat Party voters, particularly the base,
want the Democrat to Party to be even bigger a holes.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Don't kid yourself. Yes, you're absolutely right, Texter, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Although you saw in the last primary elections the worst
of the worst of the Democratic Party in the form
of Tim Hernandez and Elizabeth Epps. They lost in the primary,
and they were as far left as anybody could be, right,
and they lost Democratic vote. Well, maybe Democratic voters and
independence didn't think about the independence There There are a

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large I don't know how large. I used to think
it was larger than it is. The more Republicans that
I meet in the state of Colorado, the more I
realized that the Fringy part, the Rhino Watch part, they
do not represent a large chunk of the Republican Party.
A lot of the Republicans I've met as as late
are just Republicans who want to hopefully save Colorado from

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being the nightmare that it has turned into with the
cost of living and all of the other stuff that's
gone on. But that loud and vocal Rhino Watch minority
they want you to think they're everybody.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
They are clearly not everybody.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
A lot of the independents are Republicans who don't want
to be targeted by Dems, and a lot of independence
are Dems.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Who just don't want to be asked for money.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
I mean, independents have a lot of different reasons for
being independent, not the least of which is they don't
want everybody asking them for money. Mandy donates the piano
to a local school. That is a great idea. Text or,
if you're still listening, I would call all of the
local schools in your area and just say, you guys
need a piano. I wonder if any of them would

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take it. We'll see, We'll be right back. I thought
i'd let the rest of you hear what I was
going to say. The text messenger says Mandy, the cost
of living increase isn't primarily political. It has to do
with planes, supply and demand economics. We can go back
and forth over government policy, but the main drivers of
that are well off people and young people want to

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move here for recreation and job opportunities. You see similar
cost of living spikes in nearby Utah, which is solidly Republican. Okay, this,
on the face of it is patently absurd, and I'm
gonna tell you why, because yes, supply and demand is
a huge part of it. Absolutely, people want to live here.
I moved here in twenty thirteen because I love the
state and thought it was absolutely beautiful. But since I

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moved here in twenty thirteen, let's be real about some
of the stuff that Colorado has done. And as a
matter of fact, I just pulled up, using chet GPT
a summary cost of living comparison for Utah and Colorado. Okay,
Utah has seen huge increases in their homeowners insurance rates
and things like that because of natural disasters, just as

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we have here. Their home insurance costs have spiked fifty
nine percent. However, the rest of what's going on in
Utah looks much different than what's going on here in Colorado. Now,
if I were going to run for governor, one of
the platforms in my plank would be as governor, i
am going to demand a full review.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Of every single new housing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Requirement that has been passed by the Colorado Legislature with
an actual fiscal note of how much those regulations cost.
And then I'm going to ask the legislature to go
back and unwind the most costly, least effective regulations that
we have on the books. We just saw this when
people were trying to rebuild homes in Lewisville and Superior
after the fire, only be told that they have to

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do everything electric, they have to do everything the way
the government wants you to do it. The more government
regulation you have, the more expensive everything is going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
And Colorado has seen an explosion in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Our regulatory structure so severe that it has downgraded our
business friendliness from one of the best places in the
country to do business to now one of the most
middling places. Right with the regulatory sure we have in
Colorado adds to pricing on everything. We have the highest
the highest restaurant inflation in the country. Now we're seeing

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more and more stories of really popular and famous restaurant
tours saying I will never open another business in the
Denver metro because it is so expensive and so hard
to deal with them.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
All of these things combine.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Whether it is the faster fees that we're going to
fix all the roads which did nothing of the sort
because they've redirected all that money into dumbass multimodal systems
that nobody wants to ride, or force minimum wages that
have driven up the cost of everything. Policy matters so much,
and in a situation like ours, supply and demand is

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absolutely a part of it, absolutely a part of it.
But I would argue that the government has made it
far worse with all of their nanny stadium statism, all
of their you have to do it our way or
the highway.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
About a myriad of issues.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
You cannot disconnect what has happened in Colorado, especially politically,
from what has happened to our economy. At the same time,
just ten years ago, we had one of the most
vibrant economies in the country. Businesses were clamoring to come
here because of all those things you said.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
But now you have.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Business leaders on a regular basis saying that the regulatory
burden in Colorado is so great that I am not
looking to expand my footprint in Colorado. I am looking
elsewhere where it's easier to do business. Chef Troy Gard
of the Tag Group, which owns so many properties here
it's not even funny, has said he is done with Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
So all of this matters.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
It's not just supply and demand. And if you believe that,
then you're probably going to vote Democrat. You've bought their
line and without paying attention to anything else.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
And I don't mean to be.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Dismissive or disparaging to you, Texter, because I think there's
probably a lot of people who genuinely believe that, just
like they believe Eve when politicians in Colorado say, wow,
you know crime is a problem everywhere, not just here,
until you see the FBI statistic that put us at
number one for violent crime. Did you ever think those

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words would come out of my mouth? I sure didn't
when I moved here thirteen years ago, and I used
to tell people how safe it felt. So do not
underestimate the impact that bad government policy has on our economy,
on our safety, and on everything else that we do
here in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I sure won't.

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Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
I'm your host, Mandy Connell, joined of course by Anthony Rodriguez,
and we've got a lot of people. Thank you very much.
We got a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
At two thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Our friend Christian Toto's going to join us to talk
about the Howard Stern stunt this morning, and Howard out
there saying he can't leave now because then people will
say he got fired. We'll do that a little bit later.
But I got a lot of stuff on the blog
that I want to get to today, including this story
about what we're.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Calling the Phillies Karen ball snatcher.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
What's remarkable to me is that the Internet has not identified.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
This woman yet.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
That's shocking because we have very clear video about this woman.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
She has not been identified.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
They identified another woman who said, look, not only am
I not a Phillies fan, I was in Miami during
this game. So it's not me Plausible deniability being a thing.
She certainly has it. So someone actually asked the dad
who eventually handed the ball took the ball, if you
don't know this story, first of all, congratulations for living

(01:05:05):
under a social media rock and not knowing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Any of this stuff. But what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
What happened was there is a home run ball and
it is hit into the stands. Now a rod back
me up here. So when a ball is hit into
the stands. It's a free for all, right, there's no
like you don't get to call dibbs. There's no it's mine, No,
it is whoever comes out of the scrum with the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Ball in their hand.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
Correct, usually a slight edge to children, but correct, I mean,
decent people make sure that children get these balls.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
But not this woman anyway. So what's happening is the
ball is hit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Dad runs over and he reaches down to the ground,
and this is important to the ground to pick up
the ball. He picks up the ball, he brings it
back to his kid. Now Here comes Philly Karen. We
don't know her real name, we're just calling her Philly Karen,
ball snatcher.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
She comes running over.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Now she is in the row behind where the ball
eventually hit the ground, which means, you, guys, if you've
ever been in a baseball stadium, you know that lady
is not at all going to be able to get
that ball on the ground in the row in front
of her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
She missed her window when she didn't reach out and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
Catch it, which, by the way, she could have wish
she didn't. Now Here comes Philly Karen over to the dad.
The kid's his son, who by the way, it was
a birthday president taking him to the game, and Philly
Kieren runs over and starts just bitching this guy out,
and NBC ten at Philadelphia finally tracked down the dad,

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his name is Drew felt Well, and they said why
did you give the ball to this woman? And he
said I pretty much just wanted her to go away.
And I was like, I get it, Dad, I get it.
But then he continued, and he's absolutely right when he says, look,
I had a couple options. None of them were good,
Like what do I show my kid that I'm gonna

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sit here and argue with an old woman to try
and get the ball back? Or am I gonna show
him that this is we de escalate, We just you know,
take care of the situation out. He got a lot
of crap online for this, but I think as a dad,
that was probably the right thing to do. This woman,
on the other hand, is a horrible person, and the

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internet has not been able to find out who she
is yet.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Oh they will.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
The internet is like, you know, like ten and oher
on finding stuff like this out.

Speaker 9 (01:07:41):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
I have a couple stories. This one is only important
to my daughter and possibly me. Target is opening stores
at midnight yeah, on October third, to sell CDs of
her newest CD, Life of a Showgirl. So, if you
have a Swifty in your household, like I do, I
put a link to all the Colorado stores.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I've already circled the one closest near me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Although, in what I can only describe as the coolest
thing ever, my daughter is vinyl only. Like now, I'll
just wait for the vinyl. I'll wait for the record
to come out. Everything that's old is new again, you guys,
everything ay rod Do you remember that? And I'm gonna

(01:08:25):
put it in air quotes that woman in the Olympics
that beat the crap out of all the other women
in Olympic boxing. Yes, do you remember her name? Ammaine
Khalif Yep? Well, and again the air quotes this woman.
She has now faced an uphill battle since her Olympic
victories of beating the crap out of women, and the

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rules have changed and the international boxing organizations have now said, look,
if you're gonna fight in a women's category, we got
to do a cheek swab, We got to check out,
make see make sure their chromosomes are what they're supposed
to be, which is XX. In a decision that I'm
sure is going to shock all of you, this dude

(01:09:08):
is now refused to take a genetic test to prove
that this dude is actually a woman. Now, anybody with
eyeballs could tell you that this woman was not a woman.
She's a dude, or at least dude like, right, So
there's no.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Surprise at all.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
She's refused. She's appealing. By the way, this is what
I love about this boxing organization. They not only said
from now on, if you want to fight in a
woman's category, you have to do this cheek swab and
we're gonna just do a quick DNA test. They also said,
and oh, by the way, if you're appealing or you
don't get to box while you're appealing either. So we'll

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have to wait and see how this all turns out.
But I'm perfectly fine with excluding someone who cannot be
bothered to prove that they are a female from being
able to fight in female categories, especially in boxing, because
those matches were awful, horrible to watch. I mean, for
everybody that kept saying things like about.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
The Philly Dad, like Philly Dudgeon had knocked her out.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
I'm like, did you already We already saw a man
fighting women in the Olympics, and it's not cool. It's
not cool at all. By the way, thanks to the
person who just sent me. Although I believed it was coming,
now it's official. Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer has filed to run
for governor. She's got an announcement coming out tomorrow afternoon.
I'm gonna see if I can get her on the
show on Wednesday to talk about it. But I for

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when am happy about this. I think Barb is so
incredibly smart. She knows the ins and outs and the
workings of this state. She can make a compelling case to,
you know, do the things that need to be done.
Like here's something crazy, why don't we spend transportation dollars
on roads. Things like that I think will resonate with voters,

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and then you're gonna have like a white dude or
a woman to choose from. I mean, the deared police
versus Heidigan all thing. He was still gay, so in
the identity politics world, you're like, he's a white dude,
but he's gay. So I feel like I'm okay voting
for the white gay dude over the woman. I mean,
just in the identity politics world, and unfortunately there are

(01:11:16):
people who really do think like that. Okay, when we
get back, I've got news about beyond Meat, and if
you love beyond meat, you better stalk up. I've got
McDonald's starting a fast food price war and that's not
official yet, but just watch it. And we're gonna have
a moment on double dutch competitions and this one is

(01:11:37):
is artistry better than speed?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
All of that coming up next.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
Eleven people, including children and a baby, are missing after
a hippopotamus capsized a boat in the Ivory Coast. The
incident took place on the Sossandra River in Buyoi Bou
Yoh Bou Yoh, b u Yo buy on Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
Three confirmed survivors.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Now, you know, how do you?

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
I don't want that to be my cause of death.
What happened, Well, we got capsized by hippo.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
I mean, I guess it's a thing. I just I
wanted you to know that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
If I know that, that's that's all there is to it.
If I know it, you're gonna know it. It's going
to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
Okay, guys, stories that I want you to know about.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
McDonald's is starting what I'm sure is going to be
a fast food price war, because fast food is hurting
right now because their standard clientele middle class, lower middle
class people don't have any disposable income because everything else
is too expensive. And McDonald's took it on the chin
when somebody posted that their Big Mac happened. You know,

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their Big Mac value meal was twenty bucks. So starting
today now, McDonald's is adding limited time extra value meals
to the offerings, including an eight dollars big Mac meal
that comes with medium fries and a medium soft drink,
and a five dollars sausage McMuffin with egg meal that
comes with hash browns and a small coffee. Additionally, a

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few other menu items, including egg mcmuffins quarter pounders, can
also be ordered at as extra value meals and we'll
be prepared with the appropriate side item and beverage, representing
a fifteen percent savings. So we'll see what happens with
other fast food operations. But I gotta tell you, I
went through Panera the other day. I was running, I

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had a bunch of stuff to do, and then I
have to go get my hair cut, and I just
needed something to kind of tide me over.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
So I go through Panera and I get.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
A cup of soup, a cup, not a bowl, not
the bread bowl, just a cup of soup, very simple,
no drink, cup of soup.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Eight bucks and fifty cents.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
And I was like, well, Panera, you have seen my
last dollars, because that cup of soup is not remotely
worth eight dollars and fifty cents. Like, nothing about that
cup of soup was eight dollars and fifty cents. So yeah,
it's like staggering mode. You go to the grocery store,
don't you just kind of go, holy crap, how does
this little amount of food cost that much? But anyway,

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bad news if you're a Beyond Meat fan. When I
tried the Beyond Meat Whopper, it wasn't bad, you know,
it wasn't it wasn't horrible, It didn't like it wasn't
like like that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
I mean it was it was fine, but not as
good as the beef whopper.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
And apparently I am not alone.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Once the darling of the plant based food space, Beyond
Meat has suffered a precipitous decline in sales as consumer
consumption plunges. Economic uncertainty and concerns over the processed nature
of the offerings has push shoppers swords, wait for it,
cheaper animal options. They have about a billion dollars in

(01:14:55):
debt right now, over a billion dollars, and what's really
bad for them is that new research now suggests that
consuming meat is not associated with a higher risk of
death and may even protect against cancer related mortality. Recent
research from Canada's McMaster University revealed that animal source foods

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are not linked to a higher risk of death. The
study discovered that animal proteins could also offer protective benefits
against cancer related mortality. Researchers analyzed data from sixteen thousand
adults age nineteen and older, considering how much animal and
plant protein they consumed. They also examined whether these diet

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patterns were associated with risk of dyeing from causes such
as heart.

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
Disease or cancer.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
The results revealed no increased risk of death in association
with eating.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
More animal protein.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
That data also showed a modest but significant reduction in
cancer related mortality.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
If that is the case, yours truly is going to
last forever.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Also on the blog Today, I don't have time to
go into it right now, because we're gonna talk to
Christian Toto when we get back. A Rod sent me
a video of a double dutch jump rope competition that
was just like, all of these guys were on crack
and double dutching as fast as they can. A Rod
I responded with a video from America's Got Talent of
Japanese double Dutch, which is as much art and arabatics, aerobatics,

(01:16:27):
acrobatics as it is speed.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
I prefer the second to the first. The speed just
made me tired.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Headline number one prominently displayed on the news media, Howard
Stern walks away from Serious XM after two decades, and
then right next to it, headline number two, Howard Stern
returns to SiriusXM radio show after trolling listeners.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Did they just troll the listeners news media?

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I don't think they did.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Christian Toto shared a fawning Hollywood reporter story about Howard
Stern staying in it for all the right reasons, but
I don't think Christian was buying what they were selling.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
And so he's on the show with me now to
talk about it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:05):
Hello, my friend, Hello, Yeah, I'm an old school og
listener to Howard Stern.

Speaker 9 (01:17:11):
So.

Speaker 8 (01:17:13):
Proud to say it, but he is not what he
used to be. But I also think the media ain't
what it used to be either, which is kind of
interesting as well and actually part of the story.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
So you know, we kind of went over this, and like,
I have this love hate relationship with Howard Stern, and
it goes way back as well, because my first real
gig was producing the Overnight Show, and on occasion I
would be drafted into staying to produce the Howard Stern Show,
which you would think would not be that bad. But
sometimes the Howard Stern Show went three hours, sometimes it

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went five and a half hours. It was just whatever
Howard felt like doing that day, which on radio like
this is a nightmare, right because we have other shows
that are supposed to start. And then there is the
way that Howard Stern used to treat people on his show,
especially women.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
He purely objectified women.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
He did really cruel and nasty bits that were designed
to be cruel and nasty. And so I've had this
kind of relationship where I don't like the guy. But
then on the flip side, you see a guy who
has been so influential in my industry, a guy who
got a five hundred million dollar contract out of Serious XM.

(01:18:18):
So I have this, like, I admire his business acumen
and what he's accomplished, but I think it's a sad
commentary on what he did to accomplish those goals.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
So here's where I am. That's long story short.

Speaker 8 (01:18:29):
Yeap, No, No, that's it's fine, and I think it's
mostly fair. But I also think he was cruel to everyone, Yeah,
including himself, including his castmates there, so it was really
no holds barred they you know, he would make fun
of himself constantly, self deprecating anyone his crew is fair game.
So I think if you entered that orbit, you just

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knew what you were getting. And you know, it's a
little bit like the current show Kill Tony with their
brutal on each other, the wannabe comedians, the fellow cast members, everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
But that's just part of it.

Speaker 8 (01:19:01):
And if you don't want to join that, you just
don't join it. You know, if you're an actress and
you don't want to be owgle to ask some tough questions,
you don't go on the Howard Stern Show. So it
was a little you know, I think people knew what
they were getting into, and I think in retrospect off
and say, oh I was offended by that, or I
don't know why he treated me that way. Well, you
knew it was coming and you wanted the exposure. So

(01:19:22):
I'm a little defensive on that realm. And also, like
you said, it was so free for him. It was
so unexpurgated. He never knew what was going to happen,
and he often went long because the segment was killing it,
because the interview was great, because he and his cast
mates there were telling somebody that was really funny. They
had a vibe going, and as the listener, I didn't
care about, you know, oh my gosh, the commercial break

(01:19:44):
is getting destroyed. I just wanted to hear it. So
that that was my initial take on Howard from way
back when.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
When did he completely go soft?

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
I mean, COVID absolutely broke the man completely, like I
have never seen anyone in the public eye I crumble
like he crumbled during COVID, refusing to leave his house
for how many years? I mean, really, it was very
sad because obviously there's some kind of deep seated anxiety
there that just got exacerbated by COVID. But it was

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before that a lot of people were blaming his wife
for making him soft.

Speaker 9 (01:20:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:20:19):
I mean he's been married to his second wife, Beth
for quite a while now, so I don't I don't
know how much impact. I think it's a combination. I
think it's COVID clearly. I mean, of all the public figures,
he was the most destroyed by that in many many ways.
I think it was the Trump Revolution. I don't think
he's handled that well now. But I also think, deep down,

(01:20:40):
Howard Stern really wanted to be loved. And you know,
I watched him aggressively, and I watched the media aggressively
cover him, and they hated Howard Stern and they made
no bones about it. And I think they always were waiting, Okay,
he's gonna get canceled, his rating's going to go down.
It's the time. He's just a shock chock, He's nothing more.
And I think he really really wanted to be loved.

(01:21:01):
And I think now he kisses up the Hollywood, he
kisses up to the Jimmy Kimmels of the world. Now
they love him in a way, and I think he's
always wanted that, and to be loved means you have
to let your guard down. You have to put away
the divisive comments, you have to not excoriate your fellow celebrities.
You've got to be nicer. And I think this version
of him is just wildly inauthentic, and it just is

(01:21:22):
not what he was at his best.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
And I can't say I've listened to a Howard Stern
show in over a decade, but I'm not in the
demo right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
He's not talking to me. He never has been.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Well, let's talk about this contract with Serious, because I
would say zero percent chance the Serious was going to
pony up another one hundred million a year, and we
haven't gotten any A's right understanding. A deal has not
been done yet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Is that accurate? Are you read as well?

Speaker 8 (01:21:47):
He was vague about it. It sounds like he wants
the deal to continue, a deal of some kind. He
wants to continue. He doesn't want to retire, So I
think it makes sense in many levels for him to
kind of continue where he is right now. I don't
think he has a fire in his belly to recommit
to a different platform or different idea or different concept.
So I think they'll hash something out. They may keep

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some of the details behind the scenes because it's not
going to be the same No huge contracts he's gotten
in the past, so you know, it's very important to
save face. So I think he's going to work out
something where he's able to save face because that, again,
the ego is massive. He even said it today, he said, like,
I can't go out in these terms. I was thinking
about retiring, but because the image was negative, I just can't.

(01:22:29):
I need to go out. I need to write my
own exit. But really he should have written a decade
or so ago.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
But isn't that exactly what you just said for a
guy who just wants to be loved and now he's
found himself in a position we're in all honesty, Christian,
I think part of it is he is, in my mind,
become almost a pathetic character, a shell of what he
used to be. And it's hard to beat up on
a pathetic character, right, It's like beating up your little

(01:22:55):
brother's best friend, you know. And people do pull their
punches when they feel like someone is damaged or in
a bad place or sad or whatever. And the way
he reacted and acted during COVID was to me just
like shockingly bad. I was genuinely surprised by that, And
maybe I shouldn't be, because he's always been a whiner

(01:23:15):
and a hypochondriac and all of those things. That's been
a part of his persona. But I think that people
are pulling punches because of who he is now.

Speaker 8 (01:23:24):
Well, part of it is the media is pulling punches
because he's on their side now right saying all the
right things and doing all the right things. Listen, he
did an interview with President Biden I guess probably a
couple of months before he stepped aside. That was so embarrassing.
I think MSNBC wouldn't go to that level. And this
is the guy who is this wild and wacky shock jock.

(01:23:45):
He was the guy who just told it like it is,
and he's talking to Biden like he was Abraham Lincoln,
with the reverence and the agulation. Yeah, and listen, you
could be respectful to the president and you could do
some good interviews. But that was really embarrassing. And the
old Howard Stern would have mocked the new one into oblivion.
So he's aggressively changed.

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
So Christian, I have to tell you part of the
other part of my animosity towards Howard Stern. I was
a flight attendant in the early nineties for Delta Airlines.
One year for New Year's Eve, I had to lay
over in that red hot destination of Newark, New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
We landed at like eight o'clock at night.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
We are sign in.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
The next morning was like four thirty in the morning. Okay,
we had to be downstairs in the lobby. Not a
very long break. We land, we go to our hotel,
which is located right next to the beautiful prison there
in Newark, so we're in a hot, hot place. It
also happened to be the hotel where Howard Stern was
filming his New Year's Eve special, So you can only
imagine the quality of the crowd that was in this

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hotel in Newark, New Jersey.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
But I'm like, you know what, whatever, it's eight thirty,
I'm going to bed.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
I got to be up at four. I go to
my room, only to be delighted by the people next door.
At about one o'clock in the morning. They stagger in
from the event, and the guys decide to have a
contest to see who could pee the longest Christian. So
not only did I get to hear their urine stream,
I got to hear them loudly count one, two, three, foo.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
All of them did it. So I was so mad
at this point and wide awake.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
At one o'clock in the morning, I filled out the
little card on the they wanted breakfast, So right after
I left it four they had all of these breakfast
items delivered at five am. So that was my revenge
and I'm still bitter about that.

Speaker 8 (01:25:37):
How many times did someone cry out baba booie babba booe?

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
I was I honestly, I was so angry, like my
ears were bleeding.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
I was so mad.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Well, Christian, you know we're gonna have to wait and
see what happened. Do you think details of the deal
are going to leak out at any point? I mean,
this one feels like it's going to be held close
to the chest for all the reasons you just said.

Speaker 8 (01:25:55):
Yeah, I think if they can hide it, they will.
I think the big secret with Howard Stern now is
who's listening? You know, anecdotally, I'll go on Twitter and
I'll say, hey, anyone over there still listening to him?
And I get crickets. But more importantly, I think that
they would announce his ratings over and over year after year,
and they used to be massive, and another New York
post had reported something that was minuscule. So who's listening

(01:26:18):
right now?

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Who?

Speaker 8 (01:26:19):
I mean, why wouldn't they shout that number to the
rafters If they're not, that's certainly suspicious. Again, I think
that they can hide the details. They will if they
can maybe maneuver something, maybe he gives.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Up some of his stock.

Speaker 8 (01:26:32):
There will be some creative accounting here for sure, because
his ego is big, and he doesn't want to go
out on a note like this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
He is not what he used to be.

Speaker 7 (01:26:41):
No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
I just had this text or Mandy asked Christian about
K pop Demon Hunters.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Have you reviewed?

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
It's delightful, Christian. The first ten minutes are completely inane,
but after that I kind of loved it.

Speaker 8 (01:26:54):
You know, I kind of heard about it after it
exploded across the culture, and I have not caught up
with it. It's kind of my bad habit. If I
don't see a movie right away or at appreciating, I
tend to kind of have to move on to other films.
So I haven't checked it out yet, but it's a sensation.

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
You need a sixteen year old daughter to guide you
in your movie choices.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
I have.

Speaker 8 (01:27:10):
It really is the old we don't. I think it's
a William Goldman line. No one knows anything about Hollywood.
I mean, they just put out a fourth movie in
the Conjuring franchise, I know, and it made nearly two
hundred dollars one hundred million dollars globally.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
I mean, who saw that great obviously not me and you,
but no, watch it. I'd love to hear your opinion.
First ten minutes, you're gonna want to shove pencils in
your eyes. But then after that it gets all this
like Korean mysticism and culture. It's I thoroughly enjoyed it,
like I would voluntarily watch it again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
That's that's why. I think.

Speaker 8 (01:27:41):
That's what shows you that I think the Hollywood formula
can be so stale. If something is different, unique, it
shakes things up. It's exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Yeah it is, and it certainly has had a good
run thanks to those K pop kids.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Christian Toto.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
You can read his work or listen to his podcasts
at Hollywood intoto dot com. Or read his columns all
over the place. You're like, you're publishing everywhere now, Chris,
You're so popular, very popular, very famous too.

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
As a matter of fact, I'm afraid he's got I'm
gonna call him one day. It's gonna be like, I'm sorry,
I don't know who this is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Do you know who you're calling? Exactly?

Speaker 5 (01:28:13):
Neither of us have people spoiler alert. All right, my friend, I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
See you later.

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
All right, all right, that's Christian Toto read his stuff
at Hollywood intoto dot com. Mandy the Day Howard Lost
Me says this Texters. When right after he split up
with his first wife, Opie and Anthony did a great
skit about his breakup, Howard whined to the owners and
stopped Opie and Anthony from speaking about him. That was
a really great radio feud between Howard Stern and Opie

(01:28:40):
and Anthony because they were all powerhouses.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
At the time.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
That was a really good feud. Geez, enough about Howard.
He doesn't read this much interest. Trust me, I will
never speak of him again. Because now in the studio,
the flannel wearing god himself Ryan Edwards to talk about
yesterday's game and whatnot, and this is what I said
at the beginning of the show, agree or disagree. I
said this game was ugly. It exposed serious flaws in

(01:29:07):
the offense. It showed us how good the defense is.
But we still got a w and we have time
to course correct because it's the first game of the season.
This is the best of the possible situations in my view,
where we are right at the second, I could agree
with I think three of those four points.

Speaker 9 (01:29:23):
I don't know about the serious flaws in the offense.
I think most of this stuff is correctable.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
But oh, I think all of it is correctable. Yeah,
But what I'm saying is I'm glad it was exposed
right now, sure, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
And I was a good game.

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
I think that bo Nicks maybe consumed a little too
much of his own press.

Speaker 9 (01:29:40):
I think could have been Yeah, you know, we talked
a little bit about that on React last night, about
how much maybe some of the way the offense played
and maybe even Sean who was actually putting out the press,
the way they coached that game, maybe it could be
a little bit of that. It felt like, again, there's
some moments where they just were on the same page.
It's amazing how sometimes we talk about preseason reps and

(01:30:01):
how they can be helpful. This felt like one of
those moments, like gay, if you had had some more
time in the preseason, it might have helped you a
little bit with these Hey, the receiver is supposed to
run this kind of route, but decided to stop instead
of keep going. There was a couple of moments with
bone Nicks where I think that the Tennessee Titans and
you got to give them some love on the defensive
side of the wall because they're very talented, and I

(01:30:21):
think they gave bone Nicks in that offense some looks
that they were not prepared for, and so it definitely looked.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
Like somebody forgot to tell Tennessee they were supposed to
lose that game.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
I mean, in my mind, I felt like bow got
out of his depth and then wasn't quite sure how
to recover, especially in the first half. Second half, you
started to feel like, Okay, you know, maybe, but as
one who has occasionally in the far far away past
enjoyed a little too much of my own press, only
to be smacked down and embarrassed by God in some

(01:30:53):
public fashion, I know what that looks like. And that's
kind of what that looked like to me.

Speaker 9 (01:30:58):
I mean, listen, it's hard not to think about it, right,
especially in those moments when you have your coach talking
about this is one of seven teams that could win
a Super Bowl. You're talking about your quarterback is a
possible top five guy. Well, that's not how a top
five guy plays. That's certainly not how a super Bowl team,
at least on the offensive side of the ball looks.
The defense, again, was spectacular. The numbers are staggering, really,
and part of that also, the Sissy Titans offense is

(01:31:20):
a flawed Now that's a flawed unit.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
That's still came at the end of the game when
his receivers dropped three balls in a row. I felt
sorry for the kid. Yeah, I was like, he didn't
and his poor dad.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Did you see his sad I didn't. His parents are
sitting up.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
There completely stoic, like not no emotionless, and one of
the commentators was like, wow, you know, I don't know
if I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Could be that emotionless.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
Then the third ball gets dropped and they show the
dad and he's just like, oh my god, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
He had I would say overall decent accuracy.

Speaker 9 (01:31:51):
I mean, certainly his time in the pocket, he he
drifted a little bit too much, and that happens with rookies, right,
I mean there's that moment where panic, Yeah, where Marvin
MIM's muscle and they have the ball basically right outside
the red zone and they end up going backwards out
of fiel little range. Those are things that you got
to learn from. But yeah, I saw some things that
I think are very encouraging. But you know, the receivers

(01:32:11):
drop the baller's lens is so much you can do.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
The good thing that I feel like I know as
a fan about bo Nix is that I think that
this will not remotely mentally crush.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Him, like maybe humble him a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Maybe that was needed, but I think that he has demonstrated,
especially last year, that he does not spend a lot
of time like regurgitating in his mind what could have
you know what I mean, He's like, what can I learn?
Let's move on, which I think is the only way
to be in sports at any level. You can't get
mired down.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
And what happened in the last game one.

Speaker 9 (01:32:42):
Hundred percent, and that was one of the things that
his coaches, all of them said universally about him when
we were sort of doing our detailed work on him
in the pre draft process, was that he tends to
not repeat mistakes. And they said the same thing when
he got here. To Denver's coaches were like, it's really impressive.
Is he only needs to learn something once? So I
do think that's why, Like what you think about is
flaws in the offense is fair because it was flawed

(01:33:06):
that day, but that's hopefully not something that they will
repeat catastrophic.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Yes, not, Oh my god, we don't have an offense
which we've seen many years of that here and so like,
you know, you go down that road where you're.

Speaker 9 (01:33:18):
Like Trevor Simeon and Jake Skeenam and Joe Flacco and
you're like, no, those are flaws and there's nothing you
can do about it. So you're just gonna have to
hope that one day it's not as bad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
As the next day. And this is not one of
those things.

Speaker 9 (01:33:29):
I think that they're gonna be able to build off
a lot of the things, and there's some really positive
science from the offense. Obviously, the running game, especially in
the second half, really kind of started to show up.
And that's that's kind of by design, right, that's why
you're doing the wide zone. It's supposed to eventually break
open a few of those people down.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Yeah, exactly. So that is the hope is if you
stick with it and you can get.

Speaker 9 (01:33:48):
Into the second half of these games, you're gonna be
able to open up some of those lanes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
And they were able to do.

Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
And again, if they can listen, they've run rush for
one hundred and fifty one yards every single game. They're
gonna be a lot of games, and they might win
a lot of games too.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
And now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
On its guide in the world of that day. Look
at I gotta tell you been all right.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
I don't know if he's been practicing at home, but
he's coming for you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
He's coming for you. I'm he's giving it. Oh I
like that. Well, think about Ben. It's Ben.

Speaker 9 (01:34:21):
Yeah, he gets bored very easily, exactly. So give it
like a week and they hit be like Ryan, Now
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Now I don't care. It's fired. Okay, what does our
dad joke of the day? Please?

Speaker 6 (01:34:32):
I asked a farmer for twelve asparagus, but he gave
me thirteen. The extra was a spare. I guess, oh wow, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
What is today's word of the day. Please?

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
It's the verb verb mollify. What mollify m O l
l I f y mollify? Is that to soothe things
over to sort of?

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
That's mollify mollify m O l l I.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
So that is right, Yeah, tomlifies to make things better,
to smooth something.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Over to sort of A yeah, pretty much?

Speaker 7 (01:35:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:35:08):
To mollify someone is to make them less angry. Can
also meet it reduced in intensity. Okay, do you want
question A or B from the trivia questions?

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
I eat? Both of them are super hard.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
Okay, what record did professional boxer Al Couture set in
September twenty fourth, forty six match against Ralph Back.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
What is a rat height?

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
A T I T E rat type rat poop? Oh
little small one.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
Little turdle rat turd Ryan's like sounds good to me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
Any bird with a flat breastbone that has no attached
flight muscles trats height is primarily used to describe flightless
birds like ostriches, EMUs and moas.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
There I go all right, what was the was the
answer to the one?

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
The other one was fastest knockout in professional boxing history
and torn off in ten point five seconds. You go,
that was walk up, punch him in the face, walk away?

Speaker 9 (01:36:04):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
What is our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Party? Party? Party? Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
And overnight get together for kids, in which I feel
like Ryan got down until what does the sleepover?

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
But also accepted summer party because it has party in
the name.

Speaker 6 (01:36:19):
Wait a minute, it says both no, no, no, it
says both say the other one in print, but in
the blue now it says in blue ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
This type of shin dig with all white garb was
made popular. What is a white party?

Speaker 9 (01:36:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:36:33):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
It's made popular by the film Animal House. Oh what
an idiots? Was the toga party? Close off?

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
Both ends up the street and turn up the music.
What's a block party?

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Correct? Like to zero? Yes, guess the birth is a
popular theme. What's a general reveal party?

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
Nope, that would be normal, but this is from twenty fourteen,
not popularized yet. Guess the birth is a popular game
at this type of get together.

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
If you don't know this, I'm gonna be at it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
It's like a baby.

Speaker 5 (01:37:11):
It's a baby shower. Yeah, it's a baby shower.

Speaker 9 (01:37:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Did you guess that you're you're already wrong. I'm already wrong. Yeah,
you're wrong. Yeah, baby shower.

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
Oh he was a shower from the French for evening
this word for a party, that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Does that mean your time? I have zero?

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
Ryan won handily two to zero, which.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Is amazing because I feel like I'm sleepwalking. But you're
doing great, You're doing perfectly fine.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
All right, we'll leave you to dang it to dissect
the game and more on KO Sports.

Speaker 5 (01:37:43):
We'll be back tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Keep it right here,