09-19-25 FULL SHOW - The Left's Reaction To Kimmel's Firing Proves The Point

The Kimmel reaction is what should have been done for Kirk on the left, Antifa gets a terror designation, and thousands honor Charlie Kirk at CU-Boulder.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Friday edition of the show altogether.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Now, yes, that is correct. All of our air horns today.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
It is Friday and oh TG, I sbody, yes, t G,
I F one hundred percent. I'm ready for this week
to be over. I am not going to lie and
I'm going to jump right into the blog. I got
eight rod here on the right hand side.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
As a matter of fact, I talked to Susan Witkin earlier,
but then we haven't connected to she's you know what
Susan's doing, fantastic, good do an absolute fantastic but we
were unable to connect. She called right before I was
walking into the dead zone walk on the dog this morning,
and so I had to call her back, and then
she called me back, and you know how it goes,
little phone tech. But I'll I'll get a full update

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so I can update everybody on how Susan's doing. She's
doing fantastic though, to the best of my knowledge.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Let's find the blog.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
You can find it by going to Randy Cromwell dot
com or mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline when
you get there in the latest post section that says
nine to nineteen blog The left's reaction to Kimmel's firing
proves the point. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
I think office half of American all with ships and
clipmas and say that's going to press.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Class today on the blog it'sn't ask me anything sort
of day, the left finally cares about free speech. Scrolling
Roseanne Barr has some thoughts on Kimmel's firing. In the meantime,
there was a vigil for an actual victim, one upside
from the evil things that have happened scrolling news. Maybe
Denver seven should do a little more research. Why does

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evil exist in the world? Why would this kid choose
suicide by cop? It's a feature, not a bug of
the new carry concealed rules. Colorado's EpiPen caps are being challenged.
When politics clouds your travel judgment could have dipp in
home prices be.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Coming for Colorado.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Princess Kate and Melania are fast friends, this may be
the thing that makes me go Apple stuff about coffee,
the FTC SUS Live Nation and Ticketmaster. If you'd like
to watch yesterday's memorial service for Charlie Kirk, Representative Byron
Donald shows how to push back on left wing hate.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Chris Hayes versus Chris.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Hayes ay Rod's review of the paper is in this
Lady is like Smoky the mom if you eat microwave
popcorn like a savage.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Best coworkers ever?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
And now, oh those are the headlines on the blog
at mandy'sblog dot com to check them out.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Tech two.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Nancy is being extremely judgmental.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's not just about the blog. It's about your delivery. Yeah,
my delivery. Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
There at the end, I know, I know Friday, she's
feeling generous.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh no, she's not, just you know you raw. Oh
that's just rude, rude, rude.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Now, a couple of things, guys on the blog. I
would like to thank the listener who sent me the
video of yesterday's memorial service for Charlie Kirk at CSU
and it was lovely. I watched about thirty five minutes
of it. Our friend Heidigan Al who's going to be
on the show today was there yesterday and the coverage
in the news media was very good. I also put

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a story from CBS four about their coverage on U
on the blog today and did I put that on there?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Maybe I did?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Maybe, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I did. They did a
lovely job. But here's my issue with the news media
covering these memorials. By the way, we will be airing
Charlie Kirk's actual funeral from Arizona on Sunday at noon
on our sister station Freedom ninety three point seven FM
seven sixty AM. So if you'd like to hear the

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memorial service, if you're out and about, you can tune
in and hear that live on Sunday. Yesterday's event was
absolutely fantastic. Over seven thousand people showed up to do
this memorial at CSU and at the same time, there
was an event that was held at the same time,
and it was held by an organization that is trying

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to do what Charlie Kirk did right. And I want
to I want to skip ahead. I need to find
out what their their thing is. I think they're they're
you know, Charlie Kirk started out on college campuses is
holding up a sign. He would he would sit there
with a sign that says change my mind or prove
me wrong, prove me wrong.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
That was his big thing.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Prove me wrong, sit down, have a conversation, prove me wrong.
That was his whole thing, his whole shtick when he
first got started. So now there is an organization on
the left that is trying to emulate what Charlie Kirk
is doing. But instead of saying prove me wrong. By

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the way, their tour which is appearing, Oh, take us
on is their big thing. He said, prove me wrong.
There is take us On. So their tour that they
are following, they were following the ch Charlie Kirk tour
around the country and it's scheduled events in the same
place as that Charliekirk hat scheduled events with their Take
us On. Only their tour is called the un f

(05:51):
America Tour. Only they don't just have that. That's just
who they are. And CBS four featured a guy that
was on stage taking on people from the audience. Right,
they did no due diligence at all to find out
who this dude is, but luckily other people did and

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when Heidi comes on later, we're gonna play some of
the cool audio from this guy where he says fun
things like conservatives need to be afraid to die at
their events.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Oh okay, mission accomplished.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
I guys, I am not I'm not mad anymore. I
mean I'm still mad, I'm not as mad. I'm less
mad than I have been over the past few days.
But I will tell you this, my resolve to never
let these things go unchallenged again is stronger than ever because.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'm gonna be perfectly frank. And I've talked about this on.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
The air, like, if I'm at a party and someone
starts going off on some left wing clap trap, I
do not engage. I don't engage because number one, that's
not why I'm at a party talking about politics when
I'm not at work.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
It is kind of a.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Bustman's holiday, as they say, and I don't want to
do it. But now you can rest assured that I
will politely and firmly incheckt myself into such nonsense, and
I will do my very best to argue the points
that Charlie Kirk did such a great job arguing. So

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there you go. Oh, my goodness, is it really hang on?
Is today talk like a pirate day?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh? It is, Anthony our Should we try and do
the entire show like this? Why do you have to
say hower at the end of everything. I guess I'll
have to bring up Jack's face again. It's almost been
a year since I've brought it out for the first time. Back, Yes,
a little slurrier, little slurrier on that. You're too You're

(07:52):
you're a non student to do. Thank you very. I
know there's a big pirate festival somewhere in the metro
literally pirate Fest in North Glenn this weekend.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
I saw it yesterday and I meant to put it
on the blog and I forgot until right now. Pirate
Fest is happening in North Lend today and tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I mean, the King of the Pirates. If it wasn't busy,
it wasn't lazy to do it again?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Well, you can campaign to be the King of the Pirates.
You can be the Pirate King.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I don't have to campaign. Yes, I am you're gonna.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Have You've got to have the showdown and showcase. Make
sure if you're gonna go to this Northland and you
want to be King of the Pirates. You have to
get your pirate looks scored. Arod would have nailed that
last year. Your seafarer skills. You don't have any seafair skills.
They run I can learn. Really have to quickly fake
it through that one X marks the spot. You're gonna
have to find something.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Rum drinking, riddle cove sneaky surprises might be rum drinking.
We don't know. I gotta make it surprising, but I.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Will tell you this, the last two years the King
of the Pirates has been a one.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Men.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
You got a lot to prove. You got a lot
to prove at up to North plan this weekend. No,
I'm getting back. It's Friday. It doesn't ask me anything
kind of Friday. But I'm just gonna say this. The
dumber the question today, the more I'm gonna love you listeners,
the dumber things you.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Can think to ask me for, ask me anything, I'm.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Just gonna say, uh, just today's day five, six, six nine. Now, Mandy,
you've been resolved for days. Now, can we move on?
We understand how you feel, you know what I get it.
I truly understand how you feel text her and I
don't know why this entire situation has has thrown me
into such a tizzy, and I think part of it

(09:49):
is is the realization. And this has nothing to do
with the stuff that's happened on the air. There have
been things that have happened in my personal life with
longtime friends that have been so just and I had
this realization earlier this week. I have always been very
happy and proud to say that I have friends across
the political spectrum and that my politics and their politics

(10:11):
have never really created a problem. I realized something this week,
though it's only never created a problem because I went
out of my way to never let it create a problem.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Right, It's been on me.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I have not had the same kindness extended in my direction.
And it's all come to a head this week, like
off the air, behind the scenes doesn't really matter. I'm
not going to go into it on the air, but
it's just like this light bulb has gone on and
I was chatting with Father, my Tests, our favorite episcopal priest.
It was coming on later today, We're going to have
a conversation about people. Churches are seeing an explosion of

(10:47):
new people coming to the church, and I think that
is the best possible news we could possibly get, especially
young people.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
So I was texting with father Mike, and I sent
him an article about spiritual warfare and are we in
a period of spiritual warfare?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
And he said, that's a very interesting article. How do
you feel about it? And and I this phreeze with him.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I said, the Charlie Kirk murder radicalized me to a
certain extent. It did, And all of this this time
and effort that I have spent trying to be respectful
of other people's opinions feels wasted now. And if you've
listened to the show long enough, you know that I'm
not going to sit here and like call names. It's

(11:28):
just not how I operate. But I am absolutely going
to call out every bit of idiocy where I see it,
when I see it.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
And today we're going to do that in multiple ways.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
First of all, Heidig and All was it yesterday's Charlie
Kirk event, and she has some words about this counter
event and the people that were there speaking. We're going
to talk to her at one o'clock. We've got Christian
Toto coming on at one point thirty. We're going to
talk with him. What's been remarkable to me is to
watch people on the left since Jimmy Kimmel got fired,

(11:57):
acting like they just discovered free speech. These same people,
if they'd had half this reaction when Charlie Kirk was
murdered for his speech, we would be in a much
different position right now.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
But you know we're not because they didn't. They just didn't.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
So we're gonna talk to Christian about that at one thirty,
and then at two thirty, my friend father Mike, coming on. Mandy,
are you still a horror for the Olive Garden? I
have not been a horror for the Olive Garden for
some time. Where did that start? Were you there when
this started? Horror for the other?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Oh? What was?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I can't remember the backstory on this, you guys? Wow,
text or please remind me of the backstory of where
that came from because.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I can't remember. Dang it. Hi, Mandy, ask you anything?
When you pass gas?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Do you do it in front of Chuck or Q
or do you excuse yourself and go outside, go darn toutin?

Speaker 3 (12:54):
It depends, you know. Sometimes you have what you know.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Are just gonna be like a little toot, just like
a little harmless you had a Taco bell burrito, and
you know it's just gonna be like poo like that
kind of thing, and not blanket the room.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
With toxic waste. But if maybe you are.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Suffering some gastrointestinal upset and you know that there could
be negative, long lasting airborne repercussions from that, I think
it's only nice to leave the space, do your business,
and then re enter the space while waving your hand
behind you to disperse whatever may be lingering.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I mean, isn't that standard procedure. Isn't that what you
do for your wife? Hell no, that was very descriptive, though, stop.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
It bonus like, even if you know it's going to
be noxious, you just let fly right next to Joscelyn
humans man, oh, come on, but there's common courtesy. No
common courtesy.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I appreciate your descriptors and your analysis and your breakdown,
very thorough, very very elegant, very delicate.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
But no, well, I'm gonna be if I'm honest, The
worst gas ever expelled by human being was expelled by
me in my second trimester of pregnancy. I don't know
what the CUE was doing in there. I have no
idea what she was up to, but something something happened
in that second trimester of pregnancy. It was so bad

(14:14):
that my middle son, it was still living at home,
he was in high school. He actually ordered an Israeli
gas mask off of the Internet just to let me
know that it was bad. So I would literally get
up and I would go in the garage and I
would you know, what are you doing? You know, kind
of do my and a round my hand of God.
It would still be there the next day in the garage.

(14:35):
It was like it was like I could have if
I had bottled it, it would have been a chemical
weapon banned by the Geneva Convention. It's still a running
joke in our family and my daughter's sixteen, like someone
will pass guess and my husband will literally go, oh,
that's not as bad as the second trimester fart, and
he's he's not wrong, He's not wrong. I have to
own that one hundred percent, and I'm owning it right now.

(14:57):
I will own I've never had that kind of odor
emine for my body again ever. But it was honestly
like it would make you cry. It would make your
eyes water and you would start crying. Oh that's right.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
It started at khow I was accused of being a
horror for the oligarchy. I forgot about that, a horror
for the oligarchy. And someone said, did he say horror
for the olive garden? And that's there you go? There
you go, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Do you like shrimp and grits one of my favorite meals?
Do you know which of that do you not like?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
The shrimp you don't like? Okay?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
And the place I mentioned not too long ago for breakfast,
three little Grittels out by Southlands. They have amazing shrimp
and grits. Love shrimp and grits. Well, let me just
say this. Restaurants don't try and serve me polenta and
tell me it's grits. Don't do it because some of
us know, Mandy, girls and women don't do that. You
are precious and adorable and probably unmarried if you believe that, Mandy.

(15:57):
How do you pronounce the capital of Kentucky Louisville or Lewisville.
I pronounced it Frankfurt, which is the actual capital of Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Mandy, you went you went.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Past the line, madam Mandy. I'm just trying to be honest.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, there are a lot of stories. Sorry, I have
heard from you, and that is uh, that's up there. Yeah,
that's up there.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
The honesty, but all the elegance and the delicacy I
previously mentioned. Then you you dove headfirst further into the
rabbits holes.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Rabbit hole. Yeah, and uh yeah, we all do it right, Yeah, everybody.
Everybody passes gas. I'm just telling you. On PAP will
drop adam bombs.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Only only in the second trimester of pregnancy. Mandy thirty
seven years and I have never heard my wife fart.
That's pretty amazing because and there's never even been like
a sneak out, you know, like you weren't expecting it
and you laughed and maybe you know, never She's amazing, amazing, Mandy.

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I had one so bad one that I could hear
my daughter and wife gagging across the house.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Have you never come across Mandy Connell videos of people
doing it in the oxygen canister that is outside of
someone's room and then you wait for it to travel and.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Then you hear them, Oh, how do you do it
in their oxygen can No, like in the machine that
has the tube house awful.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah, like the big machine that takes an air that's awful.
People will do that in that and wait for the delay.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
When I realized, when I realized how dangerous my powers
were during that time, I was extremely considerate.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, extremely Hey a rod, uh huh. Do you know
what pirates a favorite word is. It's not r because
they get lost at sea. Exactly, thank you. I've heard
all the pirate dad jokes. Nice try texture. Yeah, hang
on one second.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Mandy does radio talent use agents to negotiate contracts just
like athletes, Not this one.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I'm not giving them my money ten percent? Please some do?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
I mean, if if you have like a big syndication deal, Yeah,
it behooves.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
You to hire a lawyer to look that over. But
I do my own stuff because I'm just tough like that.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
When we get back, well, it's just chaos on the show.
More of your questions text them common sense, common spirit
health text line five six six, and I.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Know, let's do it. The text line is hilarious, hilarious. Fine,
you want to play hard, China? How bad?

Speaker 4 (18:35):
I said you a few bottles of Mandy's nukes. Trump
slams the phone down, China unbands.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
TikTok. There you go.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
I'm telling you I'm not proud of it by the way,
I'm just I'm merely reporting the facts of the situation.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I think you're like three proud of.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
You because it is you know, you and Jocelyn for
sure have inside jokes in your relationship, every every couple,
every family. This is one of our biggest inside jokes
is second trimester. Guess, Mandy, I had to pass gas
while running on the treadmill at twenty four hour fitness.
A woman in her significant other were running on the
two treadmills to my right.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
About fifteen seconds pass. The woman turns to her partner.
It wasn't me, she says.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
And there's nothing worse than being behind someone in a
crowd and you're like just innocently walking behind them, maybe
you're chatting or smiling, and then you walk right into
someone else's wave and you just want to go.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
My mouth was open.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
God, some kind of warning would have been nice. Here's one, Mandy,
what's Chuck's favorite meal. Chuck's favorite meal in the world
is incredibly good fried chicken or chicken and dumplings or sausage,
biscuits and gravy.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Those are his favorite meals in the world.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
So there you go, Mandy offered a job at Koa
to secretly be an unlimited supply of top tier manure Connell.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's not that bad, not that bad at all, Mandy.
Do the CBD sleep gels give you crazy dreams? The
gels work well for me and I get great sleep.
But man, my dreams are crazy. Yes they do.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
That's because you're getting more rem sleep and when you
are used to not getting rems sleep at all, because
you're not sleeping well, you have to go through the
different stages of sleep. You have to hit delta wave
of sleep before you have dreams. And when you're not
sleeping well, you don't have dreams. And when you start
to sleep well and you start to have dreams, it's
like Holy macarney.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
But yes, yes I do, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
How do I make the best popcorn Adam popper with
white or yellow corn kernels and gee clarified butter. Do
I have this right? Okay, I'm gonna make this easy
for you to get your Adam popper. I have a
video that a Rod sent me today on the blog
that is a woman showing you savages who like microwave
popcorn how to make a little bowl out of the
bag of the mind. It's very clever if you're a

(20:58):
savage who eats that kind of popcorn.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
For people like me, we make our own like we
did in olden times on the Adam Poppa on the
stove it is.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
I use Bob's Red Mill popcorn. I order it from Amazon.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's super good, it's not too chewy. And then I
use clarified butter.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Three tablespoons of clarified butter a third of a scoop
of popcorn, and there you go.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
And then popcorn salt.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
You gotta buy popcorn salt when you're buying the popcorn
from Amazon. Go ahead and buy popcorn salt. It's actually
salt that is made finer with an anti caking agent,
so it sticks to the popcorn.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
So there you go. That's the thing, you know. Now, Um,
there's a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Right here, Mandy, My son let loose right after we
entered the car wash. Obviously couldn't roll down the windows.
Such a proud dad moment.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
So basically, your son hot boxed you in the car
wash and you're proud. Gosh dad, who was the host
with you?

Speaker 4 (21:56):
And Ross replaced when I got canceled a fired Okay,
a lot of people are asking this question because referenced
to yesterday.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I got to Denver back in twenty.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Thirteen because Peter Boyles, who I now consider a good friend,
I absolutely adore me some Peter Boyles. He was the
longtime host to Kay How and in a moment with
his producer, who he had a somebody described his relationship
with his producer at that time as like a bad marriage.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
And they they just they all they did was fight.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
And Tom tawm Crado was in the studio making an
announcement about a political run. And I don't know which
station was in here, there was some TV station in here.
Because tomtown Crato was making an announcement, Pete and his
producer get into it verbally, and Pete grabbed the guy's
lanyard and yanked, and.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
All the TV people saw it.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Now my theory, and I'll stand by it because I've
been in this industry for a very long time, was
that the parent company of this this radio station and
k HOW saw an opportunity to get rid of a
big contract and took it.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
And that's how I got here. I took that job.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I took Pete space, and he of course went over
to kN US and continued his morning show and now
he still does a show on the weekends there. And
then Ross got my job when Mike Rosen retired. Mike
Rosen did not get fired. He retired from KOA. I
moved over to Kowa. Ross started at k HOW and
then lots of shuffling took place a little bit later,

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and here we are.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Here's the happy family that we have on KOA right now.
So there's a.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
That's the history of that. So Mandy, do not feed
her beans called home. I don't have a bad reaction
of beans really at all. Pirates still let people take
a shower before they walk the plank.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Because they'll wash up on shore. Anyway, I talk like
a pirate day.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Mandy calmly came out saying she wanted Pete Booty juice
and not Tim, but America wouldn't be ready for that.
In my mind, she's saying that people who voted for
her would have not voted for her if Booty were
her running mate.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
So who are the homophobes? You guys? I heard this
story today.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Frankly, I cannot begin to describe how little I care
about anything that Kamala Harris has said in this book.
I just I haven't even been painted. I don't even
think I've shared one story on the blog about it.
That's how little I care. But when I heard today
that Kamala Harris said, yes, Pete Boudhajeg was my first choice.
He was absolutely my first choice. But here I'm asking

(24:27):
them to vote for a black woman married to a
Jewish guy, and then I'm gonna throw a gay guy
on the ticket. So that in and of itself shows
that the identity politics at play in the Democratic Party.
They believe that everyone is racist, anti Semitic, and anti gay.

(24:48):
That's what they believe the whole country. By the way,
I don't necessarily think she was wrong. I think if
they put Pete boudhaj Edge on the ticket, well, they
put Tim Walls on the ticket. And was he much
better with his flame arms and bouncing around like the
village idiot.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
No he wasn't.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
But remember they were trying to man up, they were
trying to find somebody to appeal to the bro culture,
and they chose poorly. I would say, I don't think.
I don't think they would have done any worse had
they had chos, had they chosen Pete Boudah Jedge.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
I really don't.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
I think they would have probably done about the same.
The people that voted for Kamala Harris are the diehard
Democrats who chose to ignore the fact that the Democratic Party,
in the most undemocratic way in the history of the world,
decided you to latter really to replace their candidate with
someone who got zero votes in the primary.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
You know they were going to vote for who.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
They If you had put Bernie from Weekend at Bernie's
up there, they would have voted for Bernie. So I
don't think it would have made a bit of difference.
But I did find that funny. Or she essentially said, yeah,
we didn't pick them because we didn't want the gay
guy to bring us down, because that's ultimately what she said.
They don't they give you three hours for your show.
I know you have to make difficult editing decisions, just saying,

(26:05):
and then the rest of the text line is you
guys telling me fart stories. Okay, Mandy, many years ago,
when my lovely wife was in her second trimester, it
was super noxious. We had a sister in law living
with us, and she was unbelievably polite. The wife let
rip and I went to the basement down my gas
mask crawled up the stairs like a World War Two
dough boy escaping a trench filled with mustard gas. The

(26:27):
sister in law laughed hard, and I ended up sleeping
on the couch. Nearly forty years later.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
We both think it was funny. Sometimes you gotta wait
for the laugh.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
And you know what, I'm just gonna say this as
a former pregnant woman myself, we don't always have the
best sense of humor in the throes of pregnancy hormones. Mandy,
is there anything you eat that makes you fart and
doesn't smell? When I eat roasted garlic, I have funny
fart for hours every time I move or bend, but
it does not smell at all. Amazing popcorn for arts?

(27:01):
You know, you get your popcorn fats.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Your broccoli fats, your ex salad fats, egg salad f
I occasionally get my dog broccoli. She loves vegetables. Jinks.
The Saint Bernard loves vegetables only broccoli. Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I don't know what happens to broccoli and a Saint
Bernard intestinal track.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
But m.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
H, what do you call a pirate with no left
leg and no left arm. Hey Rod, al right.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, Mandy, our church bought a school bus we would
take on ski trips to monarch. Missus O'Connell sent us
with her chili a friend. Lee went to the front
of the bus and gassed everyone to the back, all
windows open. Mandy, have you ever done a covered wagon
in bed with Chuck? I believe that's the same as

(27:48):
a Dutch oven, is it? Do you know a Rod
what the covered wagon is? I would assume that's the
Dutch oven as well.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
No, I do not do that. Never heard that one.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
No.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Co Dan is confused. He thought Waltz was gay.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Anyway, Mandy Pete should have been the presidential Canada. He
would have lost worse. Not because he's gay, but she's
just terrible Canada. Let me just say this about about
the way the Democrats shoved Kamil Harris into that position.
I don't think that there is a Democrat alive that

(28:20):
could have won that race.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I really don't.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
One Hundred days is just not long enough to win
a presidential race in this country.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
It really is.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
There just it would not have happened. So I don't
think anybody could have won that race. Mandy, breaking wind
in bed with the covers held over your partner's head
is called a Dutch oven.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yes, yes it is, Yes it is, Uh, Mandy. If
you could be an expert chef for one.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Meal making it perfect, what meal would you make and
who would you make it for?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Gosh, that's really difficult.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
I mean, I have my favorite meals to eat, Like
my one of my favorite meals period is chicken paprikash.
That's like one of our family meals and a lot
of people don't know what it is. It's so good
and so delicious.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
It's so good.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
But what I am I making dinner for a chef
or am I just making dinner as a chef? H?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I don't know. I'm I have to think about that anyway.
I have to think about that.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Okay, when we get back in just a couple of minutes, here,
we are going to be visited by heidikan All. Heidi
was at the event yesterday at CSU and she texted
out some stuff or tweeted out some stuff this morning
that I did not know, and I appreciated it. All
of the news networks who chose to cover the CSO

(29:42):
event also decided to cover the counter event that was
being put on by an organization from the left where
they are trying to emulate what Charlie Kirk did.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
And none of the news media.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Did any due diligence about the guy who was speaking
on the stage, because.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
That's the guy.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
This guy sort of proves exactly where the violent rhetoric
is coming from.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
And I've actually got the violent rhetoric to play for you.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
As Heidi joins us to talk not just about that,
but about Turning Point USA new chapters coming to Colorado.
As a matter of fact, I volunteered to work with
if there's a new chapter at a high school near me.
I was like, I would absolutely provide adult guidance if
you need help. So we're going to talk all about

(30:33):
that next. In the meantime, how about some news, traffic
and weather.

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Keep your sad bab Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second
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Speaker 3 (31:41):
So that is coming up at five pin fifteen.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Although if we don't win Monday, when the Bengals don't
have Joe Burrow, it will be ugly.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, we need that one because this Sunday's in Metaugh.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yep, there you go, anyway, joining me now straight from
her travels to the other side of the state.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
It's Heidik and all everybody.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
She was at the Charlie Kirk memorial yesterday at CSU
and Heidi I watched about thirty minutes of that. This morning,
a listener sent me the Lincoln I put it on
the blog. If anybody wants to go watch the memorial.
What a lovely, lovely way to honor Charlie Kirk. And
to see thousands of people in that stadium was so heartening.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
What was it like to be there?

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Hi, Mandy? It was a beautiful, beautiful gathering of people
and the weather was amazing and it was just so
peaceful and calm, and it was about I think it
was over seven thousand people was the final count, and
about I think I half of them we're CSU students,
which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, so cool.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
And was blessed to speak with Isabel Brown, who's a
CSO alumni and a big influencer. You got to follow
Isabel if you don't already. She's just so good show
on Daily Wire.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
She's so so good. She is so so good. I
love her. She's also a happy warrior.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
He is a happy warrior. And she has a new
little baby and she's just this is so it's getting
to her, you know, Mandy is a new mom. Like
how violence and you start to see the world differently. Yeah,
and I feel like that really has affected is about
a lot. I've notre for a long time. But overall,
the event was awesome. But and sorry you guys, I'm
at the airport. If there's stuff in the background, I
tried to find quite a little spot. I'm Mountain Durango,

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which is actually getting very very left down here. But
the counter protest that was going on near the vigil
was really concerning. It's called part of the un f
Bad Word to America Tour, believe it or not, that's
what they call it, and it was. It was pretty rowdy.
I hear, it was pretty negative, and it's very concerning

(33:40):
that the guy leading that effort, guy girl, I'm not sure,
which said we need to be afraid of getting killed
at events. Conservatives need to be afraid of getting killed
at events to force leaders like Trump to turn down
the temperature.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
As a matter of fact, let me just Heidi, just
in case people think that you are exaggerating on this,
let me go ahead and play that audio just the
second a Ron left the commercial role, and then we'll
go to the audio. I found it this morning, just
to make sure that we were giving out.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Oh come on and hang on, I've got a pre
roll on this and it's just gonna take.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Us second to get to where we need to go.
This is actually the gentleman who goes by Destiny on
a podcast at some point, and.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
This is what he had to say.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
Exactly, like I need you need conservatives to be afraid
of getting killed when they go to events, so that
they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Now, ironically, I have not heard him call for his
leadership to turn down the temperature, have you.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
No, absolutely not. I'm not hearing from many Democrats that
we should turn down the temperature. Even in Colorado. The
Democrats are not calling for.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
That, Oh no, but Heidi, they are.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
They're calling for us, our side to turn down the temperature.
There's literally no naval gazing going on on the left.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
There's no.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
And don't get me wrong, and I said this the
day of the shooting. The only person responsible for this
shooting is the young man who decided that murder was
the best option to shut down speech he didn't like. Right,
He's responsible for this murder. But if we're going to
talk about the forces in our culture that drove him
to believe that that was the best thing to do,

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you cannot do that without talking about left wing rhetoric.

Speaker 9 (35:23):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
And I mean, if you look at this tour, the
way they describe US. It says ufas's paid influencers and
describes Kirk as a brainwashing ultra maga extremist. Yeah, I
mean that could not be further than the truth. Charlie
is one of the most level headed, sensible people I
know in politics, and we're going to miss his voice tremendously,

(35:46):
especially when it comes to loons like this and fighting
back against them.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Well, let's talk for just a minute, though, about the
legacy that is now growing at a rate far greater
than it did when Charlie Kirk was alive. You you
are connected? How are you connected to Turning Point USA?

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Well, Manie, I've been a big fan since I met
Charlie ten years ago. My dad and him sat next
to each other at an event and they convinced Tory,
my older daughter, to run for student body government at
University of Oregon, one of the most liberal campuses in
the country, and Charlie actually moved there for three months.
It was one of the first campaigns they did, so
we got to know them really well. Our family did.
And now my sixteen year old just launched the Turning

(36:26):
Point chapter at Valor High School and it had one
hundred kids show up.

Speaker 9 (36:32):
The other day.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
So I've not know Charlie for years. Yeah, and crazy,
it was so cool.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
You're getting the data about how many students and people
are calling to ask about starting a chapter at their
high school or their college, and those numbers are huge.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Yeah, wait for this man's fix. I know now it's
up to sixty two thousand students have signed up to
either launch a chapter or open a chat across the country.
We've got seven hundred and fourteen high schools here in
Colorado in ninety two college campuses, believe it or not,
and we want to make sure every single one has
a Club America, which is what the high school chapters

(37:12):
are called, or Turning Point Chapter which is the college
version on those college campuses. And we've got an incredible
team of four people that lead that effort and Turning
Point that to state directors and then two regional directors
that are going to make that happen. And I'm going
to do everything I can to help them.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
And Heidi, I had a speaking engagement last Friday and Frederick,
but it's just like lovely, lovely group of people and
they kept.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Asking like, how can we help, how can we support it?
And of course I'm looking at people my age are
a little bit older. I'm like, well, your money is
always appreciated, but is there a role for me and
for them the you know, the over fifties that are
not cool to the college kids. Like, what role, if any,
is there for us to support these young people as

(37:56):
they begin to grow this movement.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Oh, there's so many cool things. You can mentor a student,
you can mentor a chapter. You can feed them. They
love food at their meetings. You can offer to drive
them places if they have events. You can donate, of
course to their chapters. If you go to TPUSA dot org,
just the Turning Point chapter and you get click on
get involved. There's a really simple form. It'll go to

(38:20):
the state director and they have hundreds of requests here
in Colorado right now. So they're getting through them. It's
going to take a little bit, but we need your
help to make sure we blanket the state with all
the support and love that we can give them to
help them be effective and turn the state around through
gen z exactly.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
So give that website, Like, how can people do this again?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
The website one more time?

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Do you go to TPUSA. It's the TURNINGPOINTUSA dot org
and there's a Get involved at the top. You just
click there and it'll ask for your not much information,
and if you have any trouble, just email me. Many
everybody on the planet has an email address Nowgano at
gmail dot com. Give me a couple of days because
my in bugs gets a little crazy bit and I

(39:05):
will connect you to the gals who lead the effort
here in Colorado. They're amazing.

Speaker 9 (39:08):
They put that.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Event together last night in forty eight hours, and how
seven thousand people show up.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
It was really really special and I can only imagine that,
you know, Friday night, I had the opportunity to go
and I call it fellowship for lack of a better
word to sort of describe it. But it's nice to
be around people that feel the same way you do
and are devastated by this death and all the implications
of this death because they're so significant. But if something
good can come out of this, if if we can

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have an entire generation of young people activated, it would
be an absolute incredible turn of events and a true
testament to what Charlie Kirk was trying to do.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Oh, Charlie is dancing in heaven right now. I know
He's this is making him incredibly happy to see all
the kids turning to Christ, turning to their faith, and
turning to defending our country and actually learning so much
from all of his video content, all of his Charlie
Kirk shows. I mean, there's so much content out there
that people can start to engage with and share with
their friends to tell the truth about what he stood

(40:11):
for and who he was, which was an amazing patriot
and a wonderful man of faith and a great.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Dad and father exactly Hidigan all enjoy talking to you.
I'll let you go get on with your day over
there in beautiful Durango, and I'll talk to you soon.
By Heidi, that is Heidigenhall. So you know, it's it
really is uncertain what happens next. And that's the only

(40:37):
way I can put it. Coming up at one thirty,
my friend Christian Toto, he's our entertainment guy, he's our
our you know, Hollywood guy, and we're going to talk
extensively about the situation with Jimmy Kimmel. So don't think
I haven't forgotten about that. But somebody just hit the
text line and it doesn't ask me anything. Kind of
day The dumber the question the better, although we do

(40:58):
not need any more questions about past and I think
we covered all that extensively in the first hour. So
I got a text message from someone that said the following, Mandy,
When your illustrious leader Trump was asked why he didn't
order flags lowered for Minnesota Representative Hartman and her husband's
murder like he did for Charlie Kirk, he said he

(41:20):
wasn't familiar with the case.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
How can you support this man?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
And I responded, honestly, that story barely made a blip
until Kirk got shot. Do you know why Hartman got shot?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
And that was my tester.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Question, and he this texter said all of them were
on a list of lawmakers whose policies he didn't agree with.
I followed it closely. He was a Trump supporter and
a Christian nationalist. He had a list of forty five politicians,
all Democrats, pro life zealot Only days ago you said
the violence is only coming from the left. Thinks sir

(41:54):
or madam, you didn't follow it closely enough. What we
know about the man who shots Hertman and her husband
and by the way, a horrific crime that no single
person on the right has celebrated, condoned, or otherwise made
an excuse for I'd like to point out the man
who shot her and her husband and tried to kill

(42:15):
two other people and.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Their daughter, and shot someone's dog. Horrible person.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
He believed as a Wall Tim Walls appointed him to
a committee, some kind of committee or commission or something.
This man believed that Tim Walls told him to murder
other politicians or his family would be murdered. This is
what this man believed to be true. Now, obviously Tim

(42:40):
Walls is not ordering the execution of anyone, but that
is actually why what we know so far this man's
motive was.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Please follow along.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Since you followed the story so closely, I don't know
how you missed that he was a Republican.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
One hundred percent. He was a Republican.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
But I don't believe that that's politically motivated. I believe
this man is delusional. And by the way, it doesn't
mean that there's not right wing motivated crime, absolutely not.
But in the past three four years, it's all been
coming from the left, and it's sad. It's sad that

(43:22):
your answer to left wing violence is to say, what
about that guy?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
In Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
I would argue, I guess that if you really did
a deeper dive, and other people have done this, and
I just I don't care enough to do it because
I don't want to sit here and keep score. That's
not what I want to do. I don't want to
sit here and do tit for tat. But what I
do want to see happen is I want to see
people on the left recognize that they are part of

(43:50):
the problem. In some cases, they are a lot of
the problem.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Mandy that Texter is wrong. I just watched the clip.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
He said that if he was asked by the Minnesota governor,
he would have lowered the flags. No question asked, but
it was not requested by the Minnesota governor.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Odds of new leftists anti Kirk gatherings out growing the
Kirk movement asked this.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Texter. I'm going to tell you why we don't have to.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Worry about that, And it's the same reason that we
don't have vibrant left wing talk radio.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Okay, I thought about this a couple of days ago.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
As a matter of fact, thanks for asking, Texter. There's
a reason that left wing radio has failed. You all
remember Air America. Air America was launched into into being
many of their stations. By the way, we're part of
this company. We used to be Clear Channel, now our
iHeart Media. A lot of the Air America stations were
part of iHeartMedia, and it was launched with great fanfare.

(44:50):
As a matter of fact, I saw one estimation that
the free publicity that Air America got equaled about four
billion dollars in media buying time. Right, So they launched
Air America. So what happened with Air America? Why didn't
it last? With all of that free publicity getting it started.
They were on stations in every major market, they were
on station here in Colorado in this building, and why.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Didn't it work?

Speaker 4 (45:15):
The same reason that these liberals will not be able
to do what Charlie Kirk did. And it's very simple.
When I open the microphone right now, I may be
talking about political stuff. I might talk about farts for
an hour, but I have a very clear idea of
what this job is.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
And I've talked about this before. My job is to.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Be interesting enough so that you will listen to the
commercials and buy stuff from our sponsors.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Broken down to its most base level, that is what
my job is. My job is to sell you things.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
And please don't be upset about that, because I view
the part of where I need to be entertaining enough
between the commercial breaks as important as you guys buying
stuff from my advertisers, right. But when the les tries
to do this thing, they go at it from the
point of view of my job is to convince people

(46:09):
to believe what I believe. My job is to tell
people why the other side is wrong and bad and
all of these things. They've lost the narrative when it
comes to just being entertaining and this new movement where
they're going to go to college campuses and they're going
to argue things. I'm just going to tell you from
my own personal experience arguing with people on the left,

(46:32):
if you can talk to them long enough, their entire
argument begins to collapse because it doesn't make any sense.
It's illogical. People cannot change their gender. That is a
biological fact. They can have all kinds of surgeries, they
can take hormones that are going to change the way

(46:52):
they look, but they're still not going to become a man.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
They're not going to become a woman.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Now there's nothing wrong with being a trans woman or
being a trans man.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I have no issue.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
There's a lot of trans people out there, by the way,
you were not crazy. They just want to go about
their lives and live and be happy and you know,
do the things that make that great fantastic. But you're
not ever going to be a woman like I am.
And in one hundred years, when someone digs up your bones,
you know what they're gonna say. They're gonna say you
were the gender that you were born. But the left

(47:25):
will sit here and tell you that you can change gender,
which is illogical. And the more you question them and
the more you ask them for details about why they
believe that they believe.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
And this is what Charlie Kirk was so.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Good at, right He would ask people questions about their beliefs,
and the more they talked, the less sense they made.
The exact same thing with Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh's movie
What Is a Woman? You guys, if you have not
seen it.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
All Matt Walsh does in that movie is ask a
question and let them talk. He doesn't interrupt, he doesn't
call anybody names, he doesn't say anything bad at all.
He just lets them talk.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
And when you let them talk, everything falls apart. So
I am not the least bit worried because I think
now that Charlie Kirk is not doing this, I would
venture a guess that this entire thing is just going
to go away because they can't do it. They simply
can't keep up because so much of what they believe
is ridiculous. It's ridiculous to expect me to remember somebody's

(48:33):
made up pronounce that they've just pulled out of thin
air in defiance of what the English language was already
a dumb language, or anyway, the things that they argue
for are idiotic. Absolutely in a row like Zo, run Mom, Donnie,
he's arguing that he is going to let more people
out of jail. Now, anybody who has lived through the

(48:53):
past few years, does that sound.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Like a good idea to you?

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Put to him perfectly rational? Just let him talk, Just
let them talk, Mandy. I hope this helps, Mandy, But
some of us, Thank God for people like you. It's
not exaggerating when I say we need your type. It's
not just my mommy issues.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah yeah, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
How many hours of prep time do you put in
for your daily shows?

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Thank you? For all you do.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
And I love the Mandy and Dube Mandy and deb
YouTube show as well. You can find that on the
Independence Institute's YouTube channel. Thank you very much, Dev and
I have a great time doing that. I start my
day at six am. I get up, I get a
cup of coffee, I go to my computer and I
do show prep for about four hours in the morning,

(49:47):
doing the blog and everything. And then I get up
and I come to work and I do the show,
and then in the evening I do a skim of
the news to begin to get ready for the news
the next day. All in all, I mean all in
all in print, like eight nine hour day in you know,
counting the show. So anyway, Mandy, you're ranting again. I

(50:10):
feel like I am a good ranter. I stand behind
my rants, and it is a talk.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Show, so I mean that's kind of like, you know,
just saying.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Mandy, you haven't mentioned that Ralphie seven will debut at
the CEU game tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Exciting. I just want to see if this Ralphie really
wants to run, because apparently the last Ralphie couldn't be bothered.
Fire them, Christian Toto, everybody, he writes, and podcasts at
Hollywood intoto dot com, where you can get entertainment news
from a right leaning perspective.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
And you, guys, are you growing? Do you like more
people writing for you now? Or you're just like creating
a little empire over there.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
It's mostly men. Yeah, it's really that situation.

Speaker 8 (51:00):
I do some guest writers who chip in from now
and then, and which has been really helpful. Honestly, it's
been very nice. Yeah, very very nice. I want new
perspectives and different ideas and that too. So that's kind
of one of the things when I first started the side.
I don't want to just be me. It's mostly me,
but I want other points of view there.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Can I write a column written from a cranky, postmenopausal
female perspective on how stupid movies are right now? I
would love that. Okay, I'm doing it. It's happening.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Okay, brod Christian in to kind of start doing a
deeper dive on the Jimmy Kimmel situation because what I've
seen over the past few days. I try not to
just sit and roll my eyes completely backwards into my head,
but it has been so eye roll worthy.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Yes, and here's why. First of all if the.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
SEC had any direct push motion whatever to get Jimmy
Kimmel off the air. I have a huge problem with that,
and I said so on my social media, like I
hope Jimmy Kimmel Susan wins. We're now starting to hear
that it came from affiliates, It came from Sinclair Broadcasting,
it came from Next Star Broadcasting, where they said this
is not okay, We're not going to air this show.

(52:04):
And especially with Nextstar that's who carries the show in
a lot of major markets. So that was pretty much
a death blow. What is your take on the firing first,
let's start there.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
It's complicated.

Speaker 8 (52:17):
We don't know if he's fired officially, he's suspended. I
don't think he's coming back. There are a lot of
different factors here. One in the media is just wildly
irresponsible in covering this.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
I mean, between the h this is the.

Speaker 8 (52:30):
End of the world coverage, to this is the end
of free speech coverage, to ignoring some of the things
you just mentioned, and also ignoring the fact that he
went on the air and a type of national tragedy.
I'm sorry that charliekirk death murder was a natural tragedy
really is. And he said just such an ugly, gross lie,
and he just won't apologize, won't backpedal it anything. There's

(52:51):
something really wrong with that in him, honestly.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Not only that, we now know from reporting today that
the ABC brass essentially called him up and so, hey, dude,
you got to take the temperature down. And he was
going to get back on the air the next night
and say, this is just maga people taking.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
What I said out of context. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
There's a zero percent chance I heart media would let
me back on the airways to do that.

Speaker 8 (53:13):
Yeah, And I think that also shows just how far
he's gone down the ideological rabbit hole. If I'm his boss,
I'm thinking, oh my gosh, he can't even apologize for
that latant lie. Do we want to stay in business
with this guy? Yeah, that's another issue as well. It's
so interesting. And listen earlier that day, I think it
was Brendan Carr fec chair was talking about, you know,

(53:35):
one way or the other we should deal with this or something.
He was kind of really speaking in a very hyperbolic
tone to Benny Johnson on The Benny Show.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
That's no good at all. That's not I disagree with that.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
I don't think that the FCC chairman has any business. Yeah, yeah,
no matter what party's in charge. To be clear, I
just don't think we have to deal with the FCC.
They're already a big enough.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Pain in the ass. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (53:55):
There's also the chance that ABC was just willing to
get out of the Jimmy Kimmel business because this contract
doesn't have much more time left.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Late night is dying.

Speaker 8 (54:04):
It is a format that is not going to be
sustainable for much longer if it is now and if
the Late Show with Stephen Colbert is losing forty million
a year with bigger ratings than Kimmel, yeah, what is it?
What's going on behind the scenes of Kimmel And why
are these networks even supporting a show that loses gargantuan
amounts of money?

Speaker 3 (54:21):
That seems crazy? Well, I think that.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
I think part of it is that ABC was like, look,
they've canceled the Late Show with Stephen Colbert, We're not
going to Basically the late night space is going to
be fundamentally changed. So if we're losing money and I
saw the ratings, someone pulled the ratings eighteen forty nine,
Person's eighteen forty nine, which is the late night demo, Like,
I'm not in the late night demo.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I would go to sleep at nine thirty.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
He had just cratered over the last few years, so
he's not reaching the key demographic. I have to imagine
that when And it's my understanding from the article at
the Wall Street Journal and CNN that not just the
affiliates but advertisers called and we're like, this is not okay.
What do you think about the notion that this in

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and of itself represents a turning point in the United States,
not in the sense that we're gonna leave the FCC
part aside just for a moment, but in the sense
that you now have television networks who have been very
happy to carry the water, carry the liberal clap trap, unfettered, unchallenged.
They have been perfectly fine for how many years, Now,

(55:29):
all of a sudden they're like, uh oh, the tone
in the country has changed.

Speaker 8 (55:33):
It's that plus something more specific, it's the economics have changed. Yes,
Hollywood is struggling across the board, the two strikes in
recent years. Theatrically speaking, they don't make as much money
as they used to. Streaming hasn't been as profitable as
they thought it was, so it's a revenue problem. I
think they could get on the high horse two, three, four, five,
six years ago because they were making enough money and

(55:56):
everyone's flush with cash. Right now, the industry is really
stumbling along. There are sort of crew members who are
really suffering, and I feel the worse for them because
that's hard to make a living, and not the Kimmels
of the world who are well compensated. It's the Joe
and Jane sixpack who are just putting lights on or
taping the floor where they stand, that kind of thing.
So that's why I think you're seeing the change that's

(56:16):
going on right now because it's not economically sustainable like
it once was.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
They've gone from fu money to owe money. Yeah, I
mean that's kind of where it is right I want
to point out something yesterday in the Hollywood Reporter, there
was an article and the headline was something like, what
Jimmy Kimmel said wasn't as bad as you thought. Oh,
so they're trying to spin it.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
But here's the thing. People need to recognize.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
These monologues are not off the cuff like I sit
here for three hours on a day, and I just
make up crap as I'm going These monologues are written,
they are put on a teleprompter.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
They are reviewed by multiple people.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
They have gone through multiple people by the time Jimmy
Kimmel reads that on the air.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
So this was not a flub.

Speaker 8 (56:58):
Not only that it's not live, even though it's called
Jimmy Kimmel Live, so it's taped, so they what's amazing
about this whole thing is that there was no one
with any sort of ramogy. I said, wait a minute,
we just said that on the air. He just wrote
that when it's completely untrue. The ideological bubble is a bulletproof,
and there's no lack of diversity. You know, diversity can

(57:20):
be great. You need intellectual diversity. To have someone on
the show to say, listen, mister Kimmel, that's completely the
opposite of what's going on. Don't we know something things
about this killer and that's not what you're saying. So
not only is it not a joke, sorry, boss, not
a joke, but it's it's completely false and it's rule.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I mean, yeah, you're pinning.

Speaker 8 (57:39):
The blame on this group who just suffered the loss
of their young leader, and you're saying.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
They cost it.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
I will say that I think that people like Jimmy
Kimmel are and many on the left have really underestimated
the impact of this death. And I said to a
friend today, I feel like this radicalized me in some
ways where I, of course will not ever advocate or
condone violence of any kind.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
I never have, I never will. But boy, howdy, I'm
done being quiet. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
I mean, I'm finished like holding my tongue. Yeah, And
I'm going to be polite, but I am no longer
going to listen to claptrap and not say anything because
I don't want to be bothered.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
I'm ready to be bothered.

Speaker 8 (58:15):
I guess they shot the guy who went into the
belly of the beast time and time and time again,
who listened to the other side, who took the worst
questions from the other side and smiled and was most
likely gentlemanly to the people he was questioning. When you know,
when his fans would boo the other people and stuff,
he said, no, no, no, let the person speak, Yeah, let
them speak. I mean, it was a crushing blow. There

(58:36):
have been radicalization points for me. The bread Kavanaugh situation,
the Trump shooting. But look at the reaction from people.
Look at the reaction and by the way I wrote
about this Hollywood and Toto at the Emmy Awards, would
it have hurt them for some person, one person to
say in a very apolitical way, that was a terrible
thing that just happened. Free speech is what we do

(58:59):
for a living. And they just took down a free
speech champion. And that's wrong with you like his politics
or not. That is just the worst thing in the world.
And when I want to, you know, I want to
give a shout out to his family and his wife
and his two children. This never should have happened in America.
That is not political. It's not political. But they couldn't
do it now, they couldn't muster the court. Then they
would have gotten nasty looks at the party afterward. Well,

(59:19):
Kristin jennow With, who's a Broadway star and she's on
some TV and films, posted me very sweet about the
death of Chrolie Kirk and she got attacked for it
and she had to make a response on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Yeah that's ghoulish. Yeah I have a bleep you my response?
How about can you stick around one second.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
I just want to talk about some of the receipts
that are being I've got audio from Chris Hayes versus
Chris Hayes. We'll do that right after this with Christian
Tote Hey Rod, give me my computer.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Please, sir, ABC mede the announcement Chris Hayes.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
By the way, this is Chris Hayes versus Chris Hayes. First,
we're talking about Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 10 (59:52):
Kimmel would indeed be taken off the air indefinitely. And
this is just the latest chapter in Donald Trump's ongoing
campaign to crack down on free speech, dominate the media,
and essentially render the First Amendment meaningless.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
And now Chris Hayes versus Chris Hayes on Tucker Carlson
being fired.

Speaker 10 (01:00:12):
As for the Journeyman, cable news host Tucker Carlson just
fired from his third network. He believed he could say anything,
no matter how vile, no matter how disgusting, no how offensive.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Now armor dehumanizing or belittling.

Speaker 10 (01:00:26):
And if you act like a sociopath over and over
and over and over, you will become unpopular on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
The national stage.

Speaker 10 (01:00:36):
That's just like a basic principle over time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Now I'm gonna stop him right there, because I don't
even need to hear. I mean, couldn't you have just
said that about Jimmy.

Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
Kimmel yep oh, and the things he has said over
the Kimmel saying the people who are unvaccinated and shouldn't
get the hospital treatment, mocking protesters against the lockdowns who
were right by the way, and by the way, they
were just starving because their businesses were dying, while Jimmy
kimil could do a show from his home and collect
he's as of paychecks. He's done a lot of really
gross things over the years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Off the air.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
We were having in a discussion you and I and
a Rod about Brendan Carr, and I think Brendan Carr
made a really stupid, idiotic choice to go on the
Benny Johnson Show and vent his spleen. And I certainly
hope that other Trump administration officials would resist the urge
to do that, because if he had just said, Hey, ABC,
we're gonna find you for letting this go out under

(01:01:26):
the air in this time of national emergency. You got
a guy out there spreading this information. We're gonna throw
a fine on you, and nothing had been said. Guess what, kids,
the FCC levies finds all the time. Now, would ABC
have made the decision then to cut him loose, as
many people I know in radio have been cut loose
after they got themselves an FCC fine remains me seen.

(01:01:47):
I really believe ABC just decided this was a perfect opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
To cut me.

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
Yeah, it's except this is late late night television. The revenues,
if you look at the numbers, they've been just collapsing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
So they're just not making money.

Speaker 8 (01:01:59):
The Tonight Show and from five nights a week to
four nights in a week, the seth Myers, who is,
oh my gosh, a smugglert like you've never seen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
He just I don't know if you have to tell
his jokes. It's just it's so it's so coarse.

Speaker 8 (01:02:10):
He fire his band because they couldn't afford it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
It's just not it's just not the way it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Works, like one guy to his body, So I can't
be critical. Christian Toto's writing and and all kinds of
stuff in his podcasts can be found at Hollywood intoto
dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
And when we get back, I've got a lot of
text messages, who are super salty with me right now,
and we're.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Going to talk about that. And Christian is the joy to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
See you as always, always a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Check his workout, and especially if you're headed to a movie.
Anything good on the horizon right now, because I need
a good movie and I'm not gonna go see him.

Speaker 8 (01:02:44):
There's a big movie coming very soon. One battle after another.
I hate the title.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Looks so good.

Speaker 8 (01:02:50):
It's a great director, a great actor. It sounds very political.
We may have to come. I meant to go back
on the show and talk about it. I get a
little birdie in my weekly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Who said that, Oh yeah, we'll tell that anytime. Anytime.
All right, Christian, we'll talk to you later. We'll be
back more of your.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Text messages on an open sort of ask me anything
kind of Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
No, it's Mandy Connell and don on KOA ninety one,
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Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
You want to stay the niceys do Tray and Connal
keeping the sad thing. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third
hour of the show. A little bit later in the show.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
My friend father Mike, my favorite priest, is going to
join us to talk a little bit about a revival
that seems to be taking place.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
People are doing a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
One, the sales of Bibles have skyrocketed, and this past weekend,
churches across the country reported lots and lots and lots
of new faces. So we're going to talk about that
in just a few minutes. In the meantime that I
want to talk a little bit about the the sort
of FCC part of the Jimmy Kimmel situation. Now, I

(01:04:09):
just went look some stuff up. You guys have to
understand every single year A Rod and I and every
single other person that has access to our airwaves and
iart media is required to do training that is designed
by the FCC to tell us where our limits are.
And I want you to read this, I mean I
want you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
To listen to this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
The FCC just updated.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
The rules for licensed broadcast radio and television stations. Content
and programming found to be obscene, in decent or profane
can be fined up to four hundred and ninety five thousand,
five hundred dollars for each violation or each day of

(01:04:56):
a continuing violation with a maximum potential fine now totaling
a little over four point five million dollars for any
single act. Now, I want you to go back and
read this part found to be obscene, in decent or profane. Now,
if you think that that is defined clearly in the

(01:05:18):
FCC regulations, you would be wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
It is not.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
It is strictly a matter of opinion. That's the problem
I have with stuff like this. Yes, there are very.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Specific things about language that we cannot use. We cannot
use the seven dirty words, all of that good stuff.
That's very clear. But what is indecent to one person?
Maybe comedy to another. But if you're on a network
licensed network television station or radio station, you are subject
to these FCC regulations.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
So it is us.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
It exists in a way that sucks. Trust me, every
year we have to take the same stupid training.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
I hate it. It's exactly the same every year. I
think I know it verbatim.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Now, it's insane, it's ridiculous. But when Brendan Carr goes
on the Benny Johnson Show and decides to vent his
spleen and threatened finds because that would have been the
first step. Somebody sent me and said, well, did the
FCC demand he'd be suspended.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
That's not how the FCC works. The FCC basically.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Says, we're gonna find you first, we're gonna give you
a chance to make it right, and then generally speaking,
in my experience, I have never had this happen directly
to me, but I know people that has happened too.
The FCC finds the station, and then the station usually
ends up firing the talent. That's generally how it goes.
So the FCC doesn't exactly fire the talent, but the
FCC finds are such that they get the talent fired.

(01:06:47):
So it is not surprising to me that ABC made
this decision. I really believe it was for them an
opportunity to kind of come out with the least fallout
possible while they realize that they don't have to come
and late night anymore and they can shed a show
that is more than likely costing them a significant amount
of money. Right now, this texter said, Ross not washing

(01:07:09):
his legs is offensive and indecent. Lol, You're not wrong, Mandy. Oh,
it has to do with the type of crime, and
I thought it honored the victim.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Shucks, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Mandy, has the cookbook coming along? You've told lots of
good stories lately. I haven't been working on my cookbook
at a hole. I know, I know, I know, Mandy,
ask you anything, do you think the blacks that sat
around while that girl got stabbed in the neck should
be charged?

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Guys?

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Unfortunately, it is not a crime to not render aid.
And I am not going to project myself into their mindsets, because,
in all honesty, if I were on a bus and
I just watched someone get stabbed in the neck and
saw them fall to the floor, I would want to
get away as well. Nobody wants to jump in to

(01:08:02):
the fray. I get it, one hundred percent. I'd like
to think that I would at least have rendered aid.
But I am not going to try and know what
was going on in the minds.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Of people when that happened. I just would not do
that anyway, Mandy, I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Wonder if the FCC has been warning him about his
lives for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
No, no, they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
They don't give you a warning. That's the thing, Mandy.
The seven dirty words, I can only think of a
couple really well. I can't say him on the radio. Mandy,
I've listened to you for like seven years now, but
I can't remember the original intro.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Can you play it again? Lol? I don't know the
original intro. I don't remember it at all at all.
So no, I cannot Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
I agree with the text that you read last week
or the week before or whenever. I think you should
co host the Broncos React shows sometime after the game. No, guys,
I've done Sports Radium.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
That's not my favorite. Just not my favorite at all.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
At all, Mandy. Serious question. What misinformation did Jimmy Kimmel
spread his commentary? I get, I'm just not sure what
he was misinforming about. Can you please educate us? And
in his monologue he used the phrase and I'm paraphrasing,
but I'm pretty close.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
He said something to the effect of, and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
All weekend long, Maga tried to prove that the shooter
was anything but one of them, implying that the shooter
was Maga. And by the time he recorded that monologue,
we knew exactly who this kid was. And it certainly
appears as he was engaged in a romantic relationship with
a trans furry that he was motivated by left wing animus,

(01:09:42):
so that is the misinformation. Mandy, Colorado has criminal laws
regarding obscenity. Even then it isn't well defined. I can't
recall who said it, but when asked to define obscenity,
they said something to the effect of you'll know it
when you see it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
And that is exactly how the defines it as well.
So that is my big frustration.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Some stuff they're super clear about, like I cannot have
a skit on the radio where we are pretending that
two people are having intercourse.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
We can't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
We can't, you know, explicitly mimic sexual acts. That's very clear.
But there's this big, great area where the FCC just says,
to your point, we'll know it if we see it.
You can text us at five six six nine. I oh, Mandy,
a while back, you said that you've cried when you've
lost a sponsor after your surgery.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Was it cars for kids? I haven't heard any of
their spots lately. Sh No.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
As a matter of fact, if they never came back again,
Ayrod and I might have a party, they might have
a party. I don't know. Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
You need to get the facts in order before talking
about what happened with Jimmy Kimmel. Fox News reported that
the ABC affiliates pulled the programming after aeting complaints from.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Their advertisers who pulled their advertising.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
The FCC chair spoke out of turn, completely inappropriate, but
Fox indicated that happened after Kimmel was canceled.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
It did not.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
I mean, there's a couple of things going on right now,
and let me just say this, there is room for
criticism from Brandon Carr's behavior, but I can't do it
because they don't come after me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
But they're The sort of secondary part of this story
that we haven't talked about is that one of the companies,
Next Star, is in the process of buying a lot
of TV stations. They're in the process of buying nine News,
and they were one of the companies that said we're
not going to air this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
They are seeking FCC approval to go.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Beyond ownership levels in certain markets or otherwise they're going
to have to spin off a couple of the stations
here in Denver because they're buying Denver seven and nine News,
and they already own Fox thirty one and Channel two,
so they're seeking FCC approval, and there is some question

(01:12:03):
about whether or not Brendan Carr's comments could have been
seen as an opportunity by Next Star to curry favor.
But the other thing about Nextstar is is that, unlike
a lot of media companies, they are known for having
a more center right bent at some of their stations,
not all, but some of their stations. So and basically
most media companies, you you know, other than talk radio,

(01:12:25):
you just don't hear that. So yeah, I still think
Brendan Carr was an idiot for doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
It was just dumb. I still think that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
ABC decided to go ahead and cut him loose while
they had an excuse because he's not performing well and
they're probably losing a ton of money. So, Mandy, speaking
of FCC fines, have you ever cussed on the air?

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
No, I have not.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
I almost did, but we were operating on a delay
and the board op at the station caught it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
And I'm just going to tell you that story real quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Universal Studios in Orlando, when I was working for the
hot talk station down there, they have a studio on
their little main Street area.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
It's beautiful and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
You could see the outside, and we were doing a
show from Halloween Whror Nights, And the way the station
is set up is there's a studio that faces the
street with a big, plain glass window, and then there's
another room off behind that that you cannot see from
the street that's like a production room, and there's you know,
it's supposed to be like a safe zup.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
And the host that I was.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Working with at the time, we were having some issues,
and I had done a lot of work to create
this bit where I was going to go through one
of the haunted houses because I hate being scared, I
hate being startled, and we thought it would be funny
to put the person who hates being scared and startled.
And I had tested out microphones and all this stuff.
So I get ready, it's about to be time for
me to go do this bit, and this host, who

(01:13:49):
at the time I was having a lot of problems with,
decided to send his girlfriend to do the bit instead
of me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
And I left the studio area.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
I walked to that back room and I had some
choice words to say about the host that were not
nice and may have been quite harsh, and included quite
a few f bombs and there was an open microphone
in that back room that I did not know about.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
The handheld microphone was laying on the desk. It was open,
it was on, and I had my moment and it
went out on the street to Universal Studios. But the
producer back in the station caught it. Dumped it, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
And that was the closest I've ever come to cursing
on the air. I have had listeners curse on the air.
That's why we have a dump button. My favorite cursing
on the air story, ever, is I was in Fort
Myers and Naples and we were giving away.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Opera tickets to the Naples Opera. You guys, opera tickets.
Who who tries to win opera tickets?

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
So this is not exactly a low brow crowd.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
And I finally I get to the winner and this
lady older sounding like I get to her.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
She answers the question and.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
I said, congratulations, You've won tickets to the Naples Opera.
And this little old lady says, and I can't quite
quote it, but she says, it's about effing time. I've
been trying for three gd days on the air. Dumped it,
dumped her. She did not win the tickets. You don't
win tickets when you do that. Coming up next, Father

(01:15:23):
Mike Tests coming on the show to maybe give us
some good news about people going back to church and
answer these simple question why does God let evil things happen?

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
We'll do that after this.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Father Mike Tests is my favorite episcopal priest. No offense
to all the other episcopal priests. I'm sure they're lovely,
but he takes my calls whenever I make them. So
he has joined us now to have a conversation about
the last week. Father Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
First off, welcome back.

Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
It's good to be back, Mandy. Always good to talk
to you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Well, and there's a few things that I want to
talk to you about. One of them, I feel very
hopeful about this because whenever we deal with some big,
horrible in Colorado, I feel like it's another shooting, you know,
and all of these horrible events. One of the things
that I talk about all the time is that, you know,
one of the things that I think would be best
for our country is if we had a spiritual revival

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where people started to turn to God instead of the
news networks and turn to God instead of assuming that
you know, they have all the answers. And since the
beginning of the year, sales of the Bible have gone
up dramatically. Searches on Google for churches near me have
gone up dramatically, and this past weekend especially, churches announced

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that they saw a lot of new faces in the
pews they had never seen before and that they were
excited about the possibility of people exploring their faith in
a more significant way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Are you seeing that at your churches in Wisconsin?

Speaker 7 (01:16:57):
My numbers are up a little, not dramatically, but no.
I would love to experience that surge, but I have
not so far.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Well, I here's hoping that the surge makes it to Wisconsin.
But what are your thoughts overall about the Bible sales
going up, about people searching for churches in their area.

Speaker 7 (01:17:16):
So it depends on why. You've got to answer yourself
the why. So if they're buying Bibles to justify what
they already believe and they're not really wells us to do,
or if they're going to church to be surrounded by
people who think like they do and justify you know,
unchristike behavior. I mean, the devil loves people going to

(01:17:38):
church who don't actually embrace the teachings of Christ. And
Christ said I didn't come to boshela, I came to
fulfill it. And there's two laws. Love one another as
I have loved you, and love the Father with all
your heartline, soul and strength.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
So when you talk about like people going buying a
Bible to justify their viewpoint, what do you mean? So if.

Speaker 7 (01:18:07):
You can isolate phrases in the Bible to justify your cause.
So one of the big cases where people justify either
whether you're for or against same sex marriages, you can
make the Bible defend your cause. You can have it
say yep, homosexuality is an abomination, and you can make
it say oh, but but the Bible said Jesus had

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a special place with John. I mean, so both sides
can make really strong cases to defend what they they've
already believed is right, instead of letting scripture reveal truth
as it always does. If you're open to what it's
seeing to you, can you hold oh, yeah, it does,
it does.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
It makes a lot of sense. What are the things?

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
And I don't know if you're familiar at all with
what Charlie Kirk was doing or you know what he
was saying or any of that stuff. But one of
the things that I think has been really interesting is
that people are discovering that though he would say, I believe,
because of my faith, that marriage is between a man.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
And a woman.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
But I welcome you in this cause like I welcome conversations,
I welcome fellowship, I welcome all of these things.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
How do we.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Get to a point where you can say, I have
a strong Christian faith and these are my beliefs, but
I'm not necessarily going to try and condemn a person
because their life is different than mine.

Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
And see, I have no problem with people who are
in churches that have a lot of structure, in a
lot of rules. I think God has created all these
stats because that's what it takes to get us all home.
But when you start usually your pain brush outside your
own box, when you start saying, well, everybody who doesn't
do it this way is not going to heaven or

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is damned to hell, or you know, that's when I
get really uncomfortable. Because if there is a judge and
I'm not him, and that and I and I use
that line when I have people come through the door
that I don't necessarily understand. I mean, there's the world
is shifted, and I'm the last year of the boomers,

(01:20:17):
and I don't get a lot of the stuff that
my kids just say for granted, but my job.

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
Is not to judge.

Speaker 9 (01:20:23):
My job is the love.

Speaker 7 (01:20:24):
And if they don't belong in my church, where do
they belong?

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Well, I think that's a fair point.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
But on the the other side of that is, if
you see someone making destructive choices, and I'm not even
talking about being gay, I'm just talking about destructive choices overall,
how do you, as a loving person of faith say,
you know what, I am not okay with the choices
that you're making, but but I still love you, and

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you know, how do you how do you strike that
balance without being one of those really judgmental people that
is going to drive people away from a possible relationship
with God.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
They might need it the most.

Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
So standing next to the person is the image I use,
and you can say, you know, if it's just if
it's hurting themselves as someone else, you can say I
love you and I'll be here for you. But I cannot,
I cannot tell you that that behavior is acceptable.

Speaker 11 (01:21:19):
It just isn't.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
I don't. I don't like to see you hurt yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:21:23):
I don't like to see others be hurt because of you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Does that make sense, Yeah, I mean it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
But I'm going to tell you, Mike, I've been working
really hard over the past couple of years on two
things too, on my own, like little journey here. Right,
I've been trying to be less judgmental because to your point,
it is not my role to judge someone. Now, that
doesn't mean that I can that I will accept everything
that they're doing that I just think is wrong, because
I mean, you can look at various choices that people
are making and say that is not going to take

(01:21:50):
them to a good place. Right, that's a that's a
dumb choice, and it's a it's a dumb way to
go through life. And I've also been working on trusting God.
And over the last week I have been in a
herculean struggle, mostly on the radio, swinging between just really
really vicious anger and then trying to get that under

(01:22:11):
control and say, this is not my role to judge.
My role is to just what be better and provide
a better commentary. And that'll be It'll be that'll bring
people together instead of further divide people. Trusting God has
been hard this past week. It really has. Why do
bad things happen to good people?

Speaker 5 (01:22:32):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:22:33):
And did God do that? Or did a corrupt and
sinful world which God allowed to have free will and
make choices? Does God stand with us? And the other
other part is that the chicks on the clock, everybody
has a role to play. Now, did God want that
man to die? I don't believe that that was like

(01:22:55):
a part of a plan, but he had. But nobody
knows why it was his time? And nobody knows I mean,
so the hard finds what it's looking for. And you
can see all of the nasty parts of that father,
the two children not having their dad, the wife not

(01:23:17):
having her husband, people who found hope in his message,
you know now not having that. But you know it,
is it a chance to spark a real conversation. Is
it a chance for people to say, you know what?
My comments on the Wednesday after it happened was, this

(01:23:39):
is what we've come to. We don't talk, we don't listen,
We just shoot each other. I mean, is that where
we are that we can't even you know? And from
Proverbs I quoted to that in the text, the wise
man seeks to understand, of a foolish man just tries

(01:24:03):
to be heard. So, you know, I so the image
I use with myself because I'm a talker. You might
not know that about me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 (01:24:13):
His talks are really good hunters because ninety percent of
their life they are looking and listening, and so when
they go to hunt, they are very effective. And so
I'll be sitting in a circle off stape, eat a hawk,
Eat the hawk, because I'm just have you ever just
held on to your silence until you could bust into

(01:24:34):
the conversation because you have something so great to say
that the world needed to hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
I don't do that. I'm just kidding. I said, I
don't do that. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
No, I.

Speaker 7 (01:24:46):
Let's do it all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
But let me Here's the issue that I'm having, Mike,
is that after and I wasn't like a Charlie Kirk
super fan.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
I've watched more Charlie Kirk content in the last week
that I had watched in the last ten years, right,
I mean, I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
In his demo.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
I was impressed with the way he seemed to connect
to college students. But since his death, some of the
people in our society, it's not enough for them to
not be at all concerned about the two children and
the wife that are left behind.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
They've then downright gleeful and nasty and awful about it.
And that part for me, I wish, I wish I
could be shocked about.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
It, but I'm not, and so I find myself matching
that level of anger, and then I have to try
and ratchet myself back because that's just not who I
want to be and not who I am naturally.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
So how do you sort through that?

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
How do you deal with people that have shown themselves
to have no humanity in this situation?

Speaker 9 (01:25:48):
Yeah, you know what Christ would do is not not
justify them and not give them credence, but he would
love them and pray for them and try to walk
with them, be there, not walk towards them and not
accept the behavior, but never ever cut them off so
that the pathback wasn't open.

Speaker 7 (01:26:11):
And the other thing I thought about when you said,
how do you how do you do this? We need
to spend more time and I've been on this bandwagon
for a long time being very articulate about what is
really important to us, what are our values and what
do we believe because if not, when stuff like this happens,
we get sucked down the rabbit hole. Now, somebody who

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is gleeful over a human being losing his life and
leaving a family without a husband and father. That is
Unchristlike behavior, and that is not acceptable. Christ would have
never condoned celebrating someone else's despear and hurts. Challenge them,
push them, walk away from them, but never celebrate their

(01:26:59):
pain and their suff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Great advice.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
I'm trying to take it to heart, and today I've
been actually a lot less angry. I've been a lot
less angry than I have the prior week because, honestly,
after watching so much Charlie Kirk content where he had
respectful debates with people that he disagreed with, and the
part about his life and Mike, I don't even know
if you've ever watched any of his content, But talk

(01:27:23):
about a guy who was open about his relationship with
Christ in a way that in our culture has not
been accepted over the last decade. I mean, I know
a lot of people have strong and deep and abiding
faith who don't talk about it. They don't talk about
it in public because it's not cool. It's not acceptable, right,
You're going to be shunned as some weirdo. So that

(01:27:45):
part of it, the scene him talk about it. I
thought to myself, that's what I want to take away
from this, that it's okay to be open about your
relationship with God, and there's a.

Speaker 7 (01:27:56):
Thousand ways to do it, and his way should be acceptable.
I mean, you can listen or don't listen. You have
you have a choice in there, I mean to to
kill someone and said so, I mean, absurdly overreact.

Speaker 9 (01:28:14):
It's just it's not how is that okay? On any level?

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
You you may not agree with him. You it may
make you super angry. But when did we get to
the point where we we do these ultimate acts and
retaliation for disagreeing with somebody?

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
Well that's the bigger question. And you talk to the
main man upstairs and find out and let me know
the answer. Okay, that's so you're to ask.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
I get right on that. I know you have a
direct line. Pick up the backbone and just call God.

Speaker 7 (01:28:47):
Right now, Father, my test I got a question for you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
I appreciate your perspective as always, and uh and and
and I'm sure that people listening who are just trying
to make sense of everything that's happened over week appreciate
it too.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
Man, I will talk to you soon, all right, thank
you for having me on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
All right, Father Mike, good to see you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
A couple of things. I'm a proud atheist and agree
with Father Mike. Today sounds like he's not saying what
you expected, but maybe try to listen.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
This is why I talk to Father Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Do you guys think that I only interview people that
I think are going to agree with everything I say.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
I mean, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
I interview with a lot of people I agree with,
but mostly because people I don't agree with won't come
on the show. Like straight up, you could ask, but
you can't drag him in here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
But no, this is why I talk to him. This
is why I ask the questions I ask to learn.
So anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
That all Brightes dragged himself from the studio, ladies and
germs you got, Really I am boring anyway? Not I mean,
you do you, But I just find atheism to be
like the most boring it is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
It's just the most boring. Stick if this is.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
All I have?

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Then all I have is everything? You know, let's get deep.

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
We got thirty seconds, ben, Ben, real quick. If there
could be an afterlife, would you entertain the idea of
it happening to you even though this life.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
You have chosen not to believe. Oh, I would be
totally open to it.

Speaker 11 (01:30:21):
I like that, you know, I mean, like, if there
is one, I'm gonna I'm gonna be roasting.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
For a long time.

Speaker 11 (01:30:25):
But you know, beyond that, like, I'm totally open to
the idea of there being something else or you know,
your your consciousness goes somewhere else, or is there's something else.
I'm totally open the idea. I'm just I'm like a
I'm one of those I struggle with the mechanism for faith. Yeah,
so I have to I have to have evidence, Like
I'm one of.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
Those see for me, though, faith is a choice and
faith does not sound like woo woo, you know spell whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
People don't have it. Well, you do have faith though.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
If you're an atheist, then you believe that the Big
Bang theory happened, right, And I'm just saying what, But
you believe this this system where we were the Big
Bang theory. I'm guessing that's what you subscribe to point
to that there's not a lot of evidence. Look, there
really not is not that much proof. Anyway, we're getting

(01:31:17):
what Yes, we will. We'll get them back on and
and I'll by the time he's done, is going to
be praising Jesus from the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Front row of the church. Anyway, I'm just kidding. I
don't have that kind of power. And now it's time
for the most exciting seconds. It's one more time, Anthony, please,
And now it's time for the most exciting segment all
the radio of its kind. That dam off all right?

(01:31:44):
You know where he was going? Straight to hell if
he didn't change his way. If that's happent, I had
faith that you would. All right, dad, joke of the day.

Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
Please, If laziness we're an Olympic sport, I'd make sure
to come in forth just so I wouldn't have to
walk up to the podium.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Yeah, that's pretty funny. I've never been borre called out
in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:32:04):
Damn okay, anyway, word of the days of nown And
if it's the same computer voice I heard earlier, I
don't know why they're so sassy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
LOGM what log l A g O M LOGM it is.

Speaker 9 (01:32:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
I don't know why they say, like I am going
to say it's the character in the Hobbit, character in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
The Good but no, okay, let me ask you this.
Uh huh could you use Goldilocks to describe it?

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Yeah, I think so. It's uh, it's FORID. I can't
remember which country it is, but it means like just right, okay,
principle of living a balanced moderate.

Speaker 8 (01:32:44):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
What an ugly word for such a nice concept.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
Gosh, you know what was the name of the first
gasoline powered horseless carriage created by automobile pioneer Henry Ford
in eighteen ninety six. I think I know this because
I just watched the show on The Cars that Built
America on Smithsonian and it's like, a it's like a
quadra quadra huh something quadra?

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
No, it had quad in it. No, that's after that
was the next damn quadricycle.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
To designed the vehicle while working as an engineer for
the Edison Illuminating Company in Detroit before he created four
in nineteen oh three. And if you ever have a
chance to watch The Cars that Built America, Super good
show anyway, let's see Ben, alright me?

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
All right, here we go. What is our jeopardy category?
What a circus? Okay? Well? This name for the one
in charge of the big top. What's the three ring circles?
What is the ring master? Jeezus? Correct? What is the
ring master? What are they allowing jeopardy?

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
If you start to yourself before you finish the answer,
they will allow you to correct your.

Speaker 6 (01:33:55):
Mario Zacchini, I believe how you pronounced it? Aka the human?

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
This once?

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
What's the human cannonball? Correct?

Speaker 8 (01:34:02):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
Cot cots by his brother.

Speaker 6 (01:34:06):
In nineteen eighty two, Miguel Vasquez did the first quadruple
somersault using this.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Apparatus, Ben, go ahead, what is the trapeze? Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
Parole and grotesque are two of the white faced These
you may see at the circus.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
Mandy, Andy, what are clowns? Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:34:25):
And finally, in nineteen oh two, Will Rogers joined Texas
Jackson's American Circus as a bronco writer and trick artist using.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
These I'm gonna guess, Mandy, what are pistols?

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Wrong? Dang it? You can die?

Speaker 7 (01:34:42):
You tie?

Speaker 5 (01:34:42):
Al?

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Ben?

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Ben? What is the bow and arrow? Kern? Wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:34:47):
Mean? What it is?

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
A lasso?

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Got that? Okay, yeah, well Rogers, all right, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
Koe Sports Coming up next will be back back on
Monday for an unpreempted week of shows.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Baseball preemptions are over. Gay sports coming up next