09-23-25 FULL SHOW - Grandparents For Kids, And Rep. Jeff Crank Joins Me

A grandparents organization you should know about, Rep. Jeff Crank joins me, and what do you say to comfort a non religious person? 

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To a Tuesday edition of the show. I'm your host
for the next three hours, Mandy Connell, and joining me
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but you can call him Anthony Rodriguez. And today we
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we have a lot of stuff going on, and I'm

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just gonna be honest today. Does anybody else just kind
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I don't know. You know, I'm just feeling lousy. But nonetheless,
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we go, Mandy. I bet you're just dehydrated. You know what.
I have been chugging water because my lips have been
really chapped and you know, that's a sign that you're dehydrated.
So I've been chugging water. I just I don't know.
I didn't feel good yesterday, don't feel good today. Just
not feeling good anyway, It's fine. I'm very strong you guys.
I'm strong like bull, strong like bull. I will get

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through it because I am here for you. Now, I
got a couple of things that we're going to talk
about on today's blog, but I want to jump down
to one of the videos that Adod sent me about
the exciting additions to the Orchard Town Center, which is
a big shopping center. Up and where is this a rod?

(04:09):
Because I'm now one and forty fourth Okay? Is it
east or west of twenty five?

Speaker 7 (04:14):
It is just exactly right next High twenty five on
the west side.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Okay, then I do know where it is because I
was thinking I think that might be it. When was
the last time you were there?

Speaker 6 (04:23):
I'm that ever, we're there like every week every weekend.
That's our entertainment area.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Okay, good, So let me ask you this, que never
do they have how many empty storefronts do they have
in this retails?

Speaker 7 (04:37):
Not many, which is why this surprised me. Because it's
actually a really, really well run area. Pay attention, it's
really well done. So I'm surprised I didn't know there
were that many openings. If there are a few, but
not many, well.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I ask this because in the last couple of weeks,
I've found myself in several different shopping areas right specific
there's like like South Glen or south Lands where they're
kind of the non mall, outdoor mall type thing, you
know what I mean, And boy A Rod they are
just they're like there's no one, there's no stores there anymore.

(05:15):
South Glen especially is like a ghost town, and south
Lands is actually looks like they may be starting to
bounce back. South Lands off four seventy and Smoky Hill
and South Glen off of is that University and County line.
Maybe I don't know exactly where it is. And it's

(05:36):
interesting to me that we're adding stuff to the place
you enjoy. And by the way, this is not in
any way a criticism of anything they're doing. I was
just kind of surprised because when you go to places
like south Lands and South Glen and places like that,
you really sort of feel that we are in the
midst of an actual retail apocalypse, because frankly, I don't

(06:02):
necessarily I'm probably a bad example though, Like I was
gonna say, I don't necessarily shop as much as I
used to. But I've never really been a shopper anyway.
It's not something I enjoy. I do it because I
have to. So I'm just wondering if anybody else has
sort of seen what's going on and wondered, you know,

(06:26):
what what is happening right now?

Speaker 6 (06:29):
I can tell you the malls are popping.

Speaker 7 (06:32):
There's still park Park, Meadows is crazy, Colorado Mills, Westminster Promenade.
I mean the malls are still what is the other
one over in Westminster? Not the not the problem? Well, Flatrons,
Flatirns has always happened. That's like the most popular. The
malls are still going.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Are the malls full though?

Speaker 7 (06:53):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, the stores are full. There's a
crapload of people, a lot of foot traffic, like the mall.
Flatirns is always rocking, Okay, specifically Flatirns.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Okay, so we will see.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
I don't get me wrong, I'm not in any way,
shape or form rooting for the death of retail. I
do think it's kind of sad that we've lost a
lot of our common spaces. I mean, when I was
a kid, when we were bored, we went to the mall.
That's what we did. And now, partly because kids don't
go anywhere anymore, they don't hang out together. To my knowledge,

(07:30):
I don't know my kid doesn't, and I just think
it's kind of sad. South Glenn is at a rappah
in University. Thank you, guys about over there very often,
so I'm not super familiar with the roads and you know,
all that stuff. But I was just wondering if anybody
else had noticed this.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
And I don't know if it's so. I don't know
if it's been a resurgence of the youth. But trust me,
there there are still those those packs of will to
beasts as I'll call them as the high schoolers that
still walk around them all. They're just really really annoying.
That's why I know they're there, so they definitely still
doing it. Yeah in the mament.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, they are annoying, and we were annoying when we
were kids too, And you know, you're five minutes away
from yelling get off my lawn, Anthony, I can feel it.
But I was just curious and people can text me
at five sixty six nine oh with their thoughts. Now,
it's get off of my VR lawn exactly. We've talked
extensively about the lack of traffic, especially on the sixteenth

(08:22):
Street and those shopping areas, but we haven't really talked
about outside in the suburbs and what that looks like.
This texter said, the malls in the Springs are dead.
I go to Orchard on Wednesdays for yoga.

Speaker 7 (08:36):
Rita Wait a minute, wait now rewind a second. Can
we have a moment because this has been multiple instances
I told you this, I think off air because that
person just mentioned the springs. Colorado Springs is dead everywhere. Dude,
do people live there? Honest question? If people live in
Colorado Springs? Because multiple times in a row we've been there,
and multiple times we look at each other like, what
is wrong here? It looks all really nice and it

(08:58):
should be popping' but there's just no one around ever
in the Colorado Springs.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Does anyone actually live there? We need an actual confirmation.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
I mean maybe Orchard the Orchard Town Centers cracked the nut.
This one person said, I go to Orchard on Wednesdays
for Yoga Rita, do an hour of yoga and then
get a free margarita. I mean, if you want to
bring people in, that's one way to do it. This
Texter said, as a retail owner, I can one hundred
percent tell you that foot traffic is down significantly post pandemic.

(09:27):
The pandemic told people that you can purchase just about
anything online. Oh, are people.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
Actually buying things? No, I think that person probably would
agree to. Honestly, when we go to the mall and
just to walk around in Windows shop, and it's usually
before or after a movie, is the only reason why
really doing it. We're just there just to be there
kind of just for the experience. But we're rarely buying anything.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, I think most people are just not shopping like
they used to, right, I mean, they're just not there.
I mean, we're working on our budget right now. Chuck
and I are working on our budget because we want
to do some things next year in terms of try
that are going to be costly, and so we're trying
to budget ahead to figure that stuff out, and just
looking at what we've been spending money on and how
we're spending our money and really getting intentional about that stuff.

(10:11):
So I can tell you, like in my house right now,
we are in the end of no by September, moving
into no by October. And that's just because we're trying
to tighten up our own budget.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
By no by November, no by December.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Well not no by December. And as a matter of fact,
the the the thing that we are allowing ourselves to
buy are Christmas gifts. Like when you see something cool
for Christmas, like, we're already buying that stuff and putting
it aside. And I don't want to have to spend
a bunch of money in December, because that's what I've
done all those many years. I spent a bunch of
money in December instead of spreading it out over the fall.

(10:46):
And maybe this is a oh god, ay Rod, I
am getting old, aren't I? Buying Christmas presents in September
is like the is like the number one indicator. I'm
like five minutes away from being in a progressive commercial
where they're going to teach people not to be like
me because I'm old. I don't know. But but just
looking at our budget and you start to realize how
much more we are paying at the grocery store than

(11:09):
we did before, like hundreds of dollars more. And I
always think about this when I look at my cart
and I'm standing there, and I think to myself, it's
one of the times I say a little gratitude prayer
to God. I'm like, God, thank you that I'm not
at the beginning of my career with kids trying to
work this stuff out, because I can't imagine having a

(11:29):
family of even four and dealing with the prices that
people are paying now, and it's just really really challenging. Mandy,
I live in the Springs but haven't been to the
ball in years. Ha ha. Yes, Springs is great. You're
missing out from a kid that grew up in Westminster.
I'll never move back up.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
North I asue you, well, no, did you like?

Speaker 5 (11:49):
And the point they're making is that the north Gate
area is packed all the time, and it is, but
it's not like a true there's no entertainment district in Northgate.
It is Shield which is massive and really cool down
there if you haven't been to that Shields And then
there's like, you know, shopping centers and shopping plazas. But
I don't know, Mandy win Jogi says, I live in

(12:11):
the Springs, and it depends on where you're going. Certain
restaurants are crowded. Shops at Briargate has decent crowds, but
not pre pandemic kinds of crowds. And if I'm going
to go down ay right, if I'm gonna go down
to the Springs for something like to hang out, I
am more likely to end up going to Colorado City,
like Old Colorado City, because they have all the shops
down the street that's really cool. Or we go over

(12:32):
to Manitu and hang out with the.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Next time I see a crowd in Colorado Springs, Mandy,
will be the first time. I'm just saying, I've never
seen a gathering of more than ten people anywhere in
Colorado Springs.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah, you need to go. You need to go to
Colorado City and that's like, that's like a cool walking area.
I really enjoy that they got good restaurants down there.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Time away from really probably never really going.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
Unless we have something to do specifically, because you know what,
I respect that trying. We've tried multiple times, and every
time you're like, what is wrong with this place?

Speaker 5 (13:03):
This textor said Mandy, I'm sorry that there are not
more stores open. I don't want to buy clothing online
because I almost fell for one company that seemed too
good to be true, and then the review said there
were no returns and that the material was shody. Plus I'm
in between two sizes, so I have to try everything
on that from Linda. Linda, now you know what it's
like to be tall. Now you know what it's like

(13:26):
to not have anywhere to shop, because when you're tall,
nobody in the stores has what you need anyway. So
for me, online shopping is just the standard, just so
pants are long enough. But I always check the return policies, always, always, always,
because some of those things. Man suck. All the cool

(13:46):
people in the springs hang out in Old Colorado City
or Manitou Springs. See that's my point.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
I do like Nana Toou, I do like man.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Let me just say this. If you like Manitu, you
will probably enjoy Old Colorado City as well, very similar vibe,
walkable streets, cute, little kind of old looking cowboy town.
But it's it's very very cool. So Mandy, I just
left Target. There were hordes of girls. Turns out, school
got out early. And this is my favorite Mandy. Everyone
was at Costco in the Springs. You guys last Thursday

(14:16):
when we had a baseball game. Chuck and I are like, oh,
it's Thursday at one o'clock, let's go to Costco. So
we go to the Costco in Parker. I have never
seen more people in one store in my entire life
than I saw in this in the Costco in Parker
at one o'clock on a Thursday. What the heck? People,

(14:37):
there's no there's no downtime now to go to Costco. None. Uh.
This texter wants you to know a rod that the
Springs has two Sketchers outlets. Oh so you got that? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (14:48):
Two?

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Not we're talking, but two?

Speaker 5 (14:52):
What? Manitou is always busy, says this textter. He did
say he likes going to man Yeah, yeah, any one yeah.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
One.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
One problem is when I go to look for something,
I go to several stores without finding it. Then I
go to Amazon and will I find it right away? Yep,
yep indeed. And to the texter, I said, QVC has
tons of tall and good brands and excellent return policy.
Oh I know, I know. My mother, who lived with
us for many years, is a dedicated QVC shopper, to

(15:21):
the point that when my mom moved out, our male
person stopped to ask if my mother was okay because
she had not delivered any packages from QVC to form my.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
Mind, and I'm just saying, people can rail on the
app all they want, but the shopping on TikTok is immaculate, cheap,
awesome stuff.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Just say, can you return it?

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Though? Yeah, it's not the easiest thing in the world,
but yes, here's my issue.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
The last thing that I ordered from a website that
I didn't check the return policy it comes in and
the long actually they were tall sized pants that I
bought from China were from a tall sized Chinese person,
which other than that basketball player, I don't think they
have any tall people in China. And when I tried
to send them back, they wanted me to pay the

(16:07):
shipping to China to return it, and that shipping costs
more than the pair of pants that I just bought.
So it's like, oh, so I screwed myself by not
paying attention to the return policy. Turn around, I'm too
lazy for that. Mandy. You think you're tall, My sister
is five twelve ha ha ha, that's funny. Ha ha, Mandy.

(16:30):
That's funny because I used to be tall and I
couldn't fit in any pants. Try being in high school
when jeans were just coming in, I couldn't buy any
I had to have the man sizes. Uh wait, update there,
But I've lost three inches over the many years now
that I'm old, Linda, I don't want to lose three inches.
I don't want to do that, Mandy. I have five kids,
three teenagers and two under the age of six. Hand

(16:51):
me downs are a necessity. By the way, I'm four
years older than you. I love hand me downs. That's
why I still shop at thrift stores now, hand me down.
I grew up in my sister's clothing. That's just the
way it was. And my mom made all of our clothing.
And if you look back at our pictures of our
childhood in the seventies, it is clear that my mom

(17:14):
just leaned into every wild polyester pattern she could get.
Maybe that maybe that fabric was on sale, I don't know,
but the outfits that she would put us in, and
I am talking y'all head to toe in a fabric
that looked like it should have been made into a couch,
right and that's what we'd be wearing. We'd have the hats,

(17:35):
we'd have everything, jackets, pants, the whole nine yards at
the ripe old age of three.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
You know.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Someone else is coming to Orchard. It's just some they're
bringing in some local stuff. They're adding some new restaurants,
stuff like that. Mandy, does anyone use eBay anymore? I
believe so, I don't. I just forget about it. This
person said, I worked at Target Colorado Mills. It is
lower than it used to be, but our daily stores
are between one hundred and seventy five thousand and three

(18:04):
hundred thousand daily. We're open every day seven am to
eleven pm, except Sunday's seven to ten. There you go, Mandy,
costco thing, first thing Tuesday morning, empty and delightful. I
got a show to plan for people. I've got a plan,
got stuff to do. Downtown Springs is cute, says this texter.

(18:25):
Great spot sushi Row Broad Moors a must see and
have a cocktail. Here's my kes.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
It looks great. There's potential, but nothing happening.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Nothing. Here's my issue with going to the broad War
for a cocktail. I don't have thirty five dollars for
one drink. And that's just where I am in life.
I just I look at the drinks on some of
these cocktail menus and how much they cost, and I'm like,
I just don't need to have a cocktail if that's
how much it costs. I'm just at that point now.

(18:53):
It's especially when you know how much a bottle of
liquor costs, and you know how much they're paying holes
for that bottle of liquor, and then they're gonna turn
around and sell you a thirty five dollars cocktail with
a bunch of fruit juice in it. No, thank you, nine,
I'm good. I'm just keeping it simple, keeping it simple, Manby.
I'm one year older than you, and I too am tall.

(19:15):
My frustration is with women's shorts. They're too short. They're
all created for teenagers who have lean, sexy legs. I
want to have shorts that have a longer, wider leg
opening with lots of useful pockets, so I buy men's shorts.
I'm not the only one. Actually, another friend of mine
does this too. We're not gonna I could do an
entire show on the lack of pockets and women's clothing,

(19:35):
but we'll leave that for another time when we get back.
I have a guest who I consider a friend. She
is a wonderful woman who looked at what's happening in
our schools and said, as a grandmother, this is not okay.
Linda White's gonna join me next to talk about a
grandparents group that you can join called Grandparents for Kids.

(19:56):
We will check in with her next. Keep it on
KOA a woman that I have met from doing so
many different things in Douglas County. And I'm proud to
call Linda White a friend because not only is she
just a really nice human being, she helped create and
I don't want to we're gonna get into the origin
story here in just a second. Linda an organization called
Grandparents for Kids, and this unlike you know, I feel

(20:18):
like every grandparent group that's out there, and this is
not a disparagement, is focused on things like grandparent rights
when it comes to custody disputes and things of that nature,
and they can be a little bit confrontational out of
necessity whatever they're fighting for. This organization is the I think,
the exact opposite. It is a support organization that is

(20:39):
designed to make sure that schools are focusing on academics,
but I'm gonna let Linda tell you a little bit
more about that. Linda, welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
First of all, thank you Mandy for having me. I
appreciate this opportunity.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Oh it's my pleasure. So tell me a little bit
about where grandparents for kids came from.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
Well, grandparents came from. First of all, my love of
my grandkids. I have eight grandkids and two great grandkids,
and I know they are the future of our country.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
But it came out of COVID.

Speaker 9 (21:10):
I started hearing a lot of different things that were
happening in the schools, and I started attending some different
kinds of seminars and things like that to educate myself
as to what was going on. And while I was
sitting there, I kept hearing parents should do this, parents
should do that. And I'm sitting there as a grandparent, thinking,
wait a minute, what about us. We are huge, untapped army.

(21:35):
Not only do we love our grandkids, but we grew
up in a time when we did have a rigorous
academic focus education. I sound like an old lady when
I say that, but that is the truth. And we
have some extra time to devote to our grandkids. Actually,
we also have some wisdom and we might have a

(21:57):
little extra money to put tour cards academics for our grandkids.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
So that's how it started. So when you started putting
this together, did you just reach out to other grandparents
that you knew? How did you go through this process?

Speaker 9 (22:11):
Well, I'm an accidental activist. I had never done anything
like this before. This is a nonprofit, so anybody that
donates to Grandparents for Kids do get a tax deduction.
I just started, just started. I didn't even know.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
How to start.

Speaker 9 (22:30):
I did reach out to a few people because I
didn't have experience with starting like a C three and
that kind of thing. But I just started going out
and reaching out to people and talking and walla, we
have members all over Colorado and we have members in
about twenty six states.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Oh that's fantastic. So what kind of things are you
actively doing?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Actively?

Speaker 9 (22:52):
We speak at school board meetings, and when I first
organized Grandparents for Kids, I thought that we would be
speaking out against things that we thought weren't geared towards academics.
But then I began to realize that when there are
school boards that promote policies that are academic focused, not

(23:13):
you know, ideology. I realized that that's just as important
to speak in favor of things also, so we speak
at school board meetings. If you can't speak, we urge
people to write letters to the school board. We testify
at the state legislature, which that is something I had
never done in my life. But you know, if you

(23:36):
want change, you have to speak up. We attend rallies,
we support charter schools. We love charter schools. And our
main mission is to educate grandparents. I can't tell you
how many grandparents have no idea what's going on.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
I just spoke to a lovely group of people in
Frederick a couple of weeks ago, right after the death
of Charlie Kirks, So a couple of weeks ago, and
they were all my age, are a little bit older, right,
you know, and they were all saying, what can we do?
What can we do? And this is the kind of
stuff that seems like is that going to be enough?

(24:14):
But it has an impact? And why are grandparents such
a powerful force in your view, Linda.

Speaker 9 (24:21):
Well, for one reason, there are a lot of us.
There are seventy million grandparents in the United States, and
my goal with Grandparents for Kids is to activate one percent.
That would be seven hundred thousand grandparents standing up across
this nation saying this is enough, this is enough. So
I think we have an untapped voice.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
When you say this is enough, what specifically are you
are you thinking about?

Speaker 9 (24:49):
Well, this is enough that our kids don't graduate from
high school being able to read or to do math
at grade level. And so Grandparents for Kids really believes
that a lot of the reason for that is things
that are taught being taught in the school that aren't
academic focused. It takes away the time from academics.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Well, I am in complete agreement with that. And one
of the things that I have seen as a Douglas
County parent is that when the school board says we're
not going to engage on nonsense and tom foolery, We're
going to focus on academics. The result is that Douglas
County has the highest performance in the metro area when

(25:34):
it comes to school districts. So is it just a
matter of saying to school districts, here are the things
we don't want you to focus on. Are you actually
coming in and saying here's where we want the focus
to go how specific are you getting? We do both.
We do both.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
If there's a curriculum that we're not really liking, we
will show up and write letters and say let's not
do this please. This isn't just academics, this is ideology.
So we do both of what you're talking about, standing
up for and against.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
So if people want to get involved, Linda, what are
the ways that they can do that?

Speaker 9 (26:13):
Well, we have a newsletter that we send out to
all over Colorado, and like I said, also in twenty
six states. And that newsletter is full of information about
what's going on in the schools and how to get
engaged and to join that you would go to grandparents
the number four kids dot org and.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
I put a link to that on the blog today.
Grandparents the number four kids dot org and sign up
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I think for people that are not necessarily politically engaged,
and they're not necessarily the sort of people who watch
the news a lot, I think that there are grandparents
who would be super shocked to find out some of

(26:57):
the things that are being taught to little children in
our schools, like I mean flat out gobsmacked. So if
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then share the newsletter. And this is when I was going,
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they know what's up, they know what's going on. If
you get that newsletter, share it with other people that

(27:18):
may not be as politically involved or active as you are,
to give them an idea of what it is they're missing.
Because we all want to assume that schools are doing
the same kind of stuff we were doing when we
were in school. Nothing could be further from the truth.
It's like a whole new world in schools, not necessarily
a bad thing. I do want to be clear about that.
I mean, they have technology, and they have labs, and

(27:39):
they have all these things that we didn't have access to,
But the ideology portion must go. And Linda White, I
appreciate what you've done grandparents for kids, what you guys
continue doing, And I hope that a lot of people
sign up for the newsletter and start getting engaged because,
as you said, they got the time right. Yes, and
we have a loud voice. Yeah, okay, a couple of time.

(28:00):
Next message questions, is this like cars for kids. Do
I have to trade in a grandparent to get a kid? No,
it is nothing like cars for kids. And then another
totally different texter texted in Mandy finally replaced cars for
kids with grandparents for kids. If only I could, people,
If only I could, lind I so appreciate your time today.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
Thank you, and I hope we grow our army with
the help of this show.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
So thank you.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Amen to that. That's Flnda White with grandparents for kids.
We will be back after this. Keep it right here
on KWA. The guy who tried to assassinate Donald Trump
in Florida by laying in wait, lying in wait by
his golf course has now been found guilty after just
two and a half hours of deliberation. He's been found

(28:48):
guilty of attempting to assassinate then presidential candidate Donald Trump
last year. They also found him guilty of assaulting the
Secret Service agent who rousted him. And this guy's nuts.
He's nuts now eight Rod's telling me something else just happened.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
The US Marshals apparently had to step in to prevent
himself from stabbing himself in the courtroom after the verdict
was read.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
First of all, he represented himself in court, which is
the old adage you know, only a fool has himself
as a client. Is true, he was not an attorney.
He's clearly crazy in the sense that he's detached from
reality enough to think that he is going to try
and assassinate the president. By the way, he literally left

(29:35):
a note saying this is an assassination. It's like there's
he left a note that said to the world, this
was an assassination attempt. Don Donald Trump. I mean a
part of me feel sorry for him, but then no,
I don't. If he had a real lawyer, then perhaps
he would have had some sort of claim to not

(29:58):
being capable of taking, you know, taking part in his defense.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
I mean, I just apparently he tried to stab himself
in the neck with a pen right after the guilty verdict.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
I mean, you guys, like, does that seem like a
good first of all, to shooting the president seem like
a good idea? No, and stabbing yourself in the neck
with a pen, I that's not even effective, you know
what I mean, that's not even effective thing to stab yourself.
Has anyone let me use the google hang on one second,
has anyone ever stabbed themselves to death in the neck,

(30:35):
in the neck with a pen. Okay, here we go,
pencil death. Yeah, yeah, uh no, no, uh huh no.
Just I mean with a knife, yes, but not not
with a pen. So this guy's going to prison, probably

(30:57):
for the rest of his life because he decided this
was a good idea all the way around. But I'm
sure that this story will get absolutely no play in
the media because any mention of any kind of left
wing violence is verboten. We're not allowed to talk about
that anymore. Now, coming up in the next hour, I

(31:19):
have Representative Jeff Crank, and first of all, we're going
to talk about Space Command moving, because that's actually why
I initially reached out to him to have him come
on the show, and then so much has happened since
then that it will probably be a more far ranging conversation.
But I am going to ask him about his vote
against censuring Representative ilhan Omar for her vile comments that

(31:43):
she continues to make. I mean, she just keeps spewing
her pile out there. But he refused to vote for
the censure that would have removed her for committees and
stuff like that, and I understand his rationale, which is
that he believes that people should have the right to
say horrible things. I disagree slightly in that. Why do
you have the censure process in Congress? But we're gonna

(32:07):
be able to hear from Congressman Crank specifically what he
was thinking when he did that, along with other things.
You can text me your questions at five six six nine. Oh,
that's five sixty six nine.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Just answer this one question from the text line before
we go, Mandy, why did you dislike cars for kids
so much? Is it because of their catchy jingle? Steve?
Do you really have to ask completely, Mandy? He's not crazy.
Don't let him off the hook like that. He's evil,
But people can't explain evil. They always cry crazy. But

(32:40):
there's a big difference. That is a fair point. We'll
talk about that more a little bit later in the show.
Representative Jeff Crank coming up next. Keep it on KOA.

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Speaker 5 (33:14):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I am pleased as punch to have the member of
Congress from the Oh geez, Jeff, what districtor are you fifth? Yes,
fifth congressional district. He's Representative Jeff Crank, who I completely
smeared his good name this morning on my blog by

(33:36):
by saying he did something, when in reality it was
the other representative, Jeff from Colorado. Jeff heard I've got
Jeff Crank with me today, and Representative Jeff Crank. It's
clear that one of you is going to have to
change your name because they are too confusing. The idiots
like me who confuse a kind of important vote. And

(33:57):
we'll get to that in just a moment. But first
of all, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Well thanks for having me, Mandy. I always enjoy being
on with you.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
Yes, I appreciate you taking the time to do this.
Let's start with what I initially reached out many. It
feels like a lifetime ago, but it was September second.
I went back and looked at the day today, September second,
Space Command is being moved to Alabama. I reach out
and said, let's get you on the show. Today's the
first day that we could get you on. But holy crap,
it's like a lifetime has happened in the last two weeks.

(34:27):
But let's start with Space Command. Is there any chance
to salvage this for Colorado Springs?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yes, yes, I think there is, and I'm working to
try and fight that decision. Actually, all of the members
of the delegation, Democrats and Republicans, signed a statement the
day that had happened that we are opposed to it.
It's the wrong thing to do from a national security perspective,
and we're fighting the decisions and I'm working with our

(34:57):
senators to help do that as well. There are some,
though on the left, who who think that fighting this
decision is attacking Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Right.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
It isn't right, because Donald Trump and the Trump administration
make the decision about what roles and missions might come
to Colorado. And so I have been working hard with
the administration to find some things to come to Colorado
that would expand missions beyond Space Command. And there's lots

(35:27):
of things, and I've had really good discussions with them.
I'm very confident that we're going to get more things
coming to Colorado. Nothing in this decision to move Space
Command changes the fact that fifty percent of US Space
Force is actually located in Colorado. It's going to remain

(35:48):
in Colorado. Fifty percent of the Space Force and growing
will be in Colorado. And so people confuse sometimes the
difference between Space Force and Space Command. Obviously, we're disappointed
in the decision. It's the wrong decision. We're going to
fight it. But as equally important is the fact that
we're just going to work hard to bring more missions,

(36:10):
roles and missions to Colorado, and specifically to Colorado Springs.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
So I mean not to disparage what you just said
that it sounds a little like we're going to get
a consolation prize, like we're going to get other things
to make up for the loss of talent or the
other things that will be peeled off by the loss
of Space Command. So let me ask you this. One
of the things that President Trump said in his comments
announcing the change was that when I heard from the

(36:35):
Alabama delegation, everybody all the time, they didn't talk about
anything else but moving Space Command. Do you feel like
they just got to jump on us because they tend
to all align with the same political party. Did it
make it easier for them to do a full court
press than our situation. And I'm not asking you to
say anything bad about your Democratic colleagues at all, But

(36:57):
dealing with someone from your own party as a heck
of bodies than dealing with so much from the other party,
I don't care who you are.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Well, I mean, the Alabama delegation has been working this
for many years. Keep in mind, I mean I've been
a member of Congress for nine months, right, So I
got sworn in nine months ago. The decision to move
Space Command was made by President Trump in his first
term at the in twenty twenty one. In January of
twenty twenty one, I wasn't a member of Congress, wasn't

(37:26):
even thinking about running for Congress back then. So there's
a lot of history that's been, you know, been behind
us on this decision. So what I was left with
when I arrived on January third of this year was really,
you know, what do we do? How do we fight
this decision? And we fought it not from a political

(37:47):
standpoint but from a military one that it just doesn't
make sense from a military standpoint to move Space Command.
But I would say this, the pie is so much
bigger today. And you talked about maybe a constant prize.
I would just say I don't think that's the case.
I think there's going to be a pretty major realignment
of our military, particularly when it comes to space, over

(38:10):
the next couple of years. As I said, we're going
to the space force in Colorado will continue to grow.
But the pie is so much bigger today than it
was those many years ago when the decision was first made.
We just added Golden Dome. Golden Dome. We just put

(38:30):
twenty five billion dollars Congress approved for the first year
of Golden Dome. I mean, Golden Dome's going to be
hundreds of billions of dollars that's going to be spent.
Much of that money will be coming to Colorado. So
I would just say that what's coming to Colorado through

(38:50):
Golden Dome and through other things is going to dwarf
what might be lost in Space Command. And by the way,
Space Command was originally supposed to be about twenty three
hundred jobs. We've worked with the administration to talk about
what the impact would be and it'll be about one
thousand jobs, six hundred of those civilian, four hundred military.

(39:13):
So it's going to be a far less impact than
it was originally going to be when they announced it
number one and number two. Just with with Golden Dome,
there's just going to be so much more coming here.
There's going to be more space business in Colorado five
years from now than there is today, no matter what
happens with Space Command.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
So a couple of people asking just to be clear here,
I'm going to answer this question, Mandy, as I understand it,
Space Command has moved, but not Space Force. And that's
what Jeff was just saying here, is that Space Force,
over fifty percent of Space Force is still located in Colorado.
Let me ask you about Golden Dome for just a second,
because I think this is the Israelis have proved how

(39:53):
effective a dome defense system is, and you know, Ronald
Reagan got laughed when he said we're going to have
this Star Wars missile defense system. It's kind of interesting
that fifty years later, and yes it has been fifty years,
it finally looks like it's going to be coming to fruition.
If so much of that is coming to Colorado, is
that because of our existing commercial infrastructure, the companies that

(40:19):
are already existing in Colorado, Springs in Denver, in those
areas that are doing this kind of high tech stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
It is. It's a lot of that, and much of
that is going to stay here. It's not going to
move to Alabama. Most of it won't move to Alabama
just because Space Command may move to Alabama. But it
is both that civilian workforce, but we also have a
lot of the military bases here that do so much
that can't be moved. GPS satellites. All of the GPS

(40:47):
satellites in the world. Every day when you use your
phone to navigate you from one place to another, that's
all controlled on the ground in my congressional district at
Shriver Air Force Base, that's all done there. Norrad Cheyenne Mountain,
all of that stuff that's not going to go anywhere.
So Northern Command is a unified command and it's still

(41:11):
headquartered here in Colorado Springs. They're going to be the
executors of Golden Dome. They're going to decide if something,
If a missile is fired anywhere in the world, they're
going to in a split second make a decision about
whether that missile is headed to the United States or not,
and if it is, how to shoot it down and
how to defend the United States. Every decision about that

(41:34):
in the Command structure will be made right here in
Colorado Springs. Actually, so that's why Colorado is going to
really benefit from Golden Dome. I formed the Golden Dome
Caucus in Congress so that we could continue to keep
Colorado the head of really space in the military.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Somebody just chexts it in. During the Biden era, Colorado
Springs was named the permanent home of Space Command. Trump
overturn that. Let's not forget that. Represent your voters, not Trump.
I think that's kind of what he just said, that
he's been advocating for this. But how do you respond
to that?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, and Mandy, look, I mean that's a political question
by someone who's probably trying to make score a political point.
I have fought the president on this. I just said
that we don't agree with the decision. It is a
bad decision for national security. I do not support the
decision to move it. But what's the alternative? Should I

(42:33):
just attack Donald Trump as a president like many Democrats
have done. That's counterproductive. To attack the president doesn't help
us get more missions for the people that I represent.
So my job as their congressman, and as a representative
from the state of Colorado is do my best to
keep as many jobs here as I possibly can. We

(42:54):
are fighting as best we can to keep the Space
Command in Colorado. But you know, it's also tough sometimes
when we do have a governor that wants to thumb
his nose at the Trump administration over immigration, over healthcare,
over everything. We have US senators that tend to want

(43:17):
to do that too. Although I will say Governor ben Or,
I'm sorry, Senator Bennett has been really helpful in the
fight here on Space Command. So you know, it's tough.
Colorado has continually tried to poke the eye of Donald Trump.
I'm not going to do that. I'm going to try
and work to get roles and missions to Colorado. That

(43:39):
doesn't mean that I agree with the decision. I've said
from day one that I oppose any move from Space
Command and I'm going to do everything I can to
stop it.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
I'm with Representative Jeff Crank and I want to get
to with something that I and I've gone back and
I've corrected the blog, so if you looked at it earlier,
you will see me as I just told Jeff I've
hoisted myself on my own patartive idiocy because one member,
one Republican member of the Colorado delegation, voted against a

(44:08):
move to censure Representative ilhan Omar, who has been everywhere
she can be saying the most nasty things she can
about Charlie Kirk because that's what she does. And I
am so wrong. It was Representative Jeff Heard who voted no.
You voted yes on that?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Why well, And to even confuse it a little bit more,
what we actually voted on was a motion to table
a motion to censure ilhan Omar. So I actually voted
no on the motion to table. Jeff Heard voted yes,
But essentially I voted to continue with the resolution of

(44:50):
censure on ilhan Omar. Jeff Heard voted yes on the
motion to table that, so he voted against the censure
of ihan Omar. And you know, I don't want to
speak for Jeff. Jeff's a friend. It's not a vote
that I agreed with or would have cast. I just
believe that. You know, of course I support free speech.

(45:13):
I am very much opposed to the government coming in.
You know, there's been a lot of talk about free
speech as of late. And the whole issue with Jimmy
Kimmel and all of that, well, look, the free market
ought to decide whether Jimmy Kimmel's on the air or not.
I don't watch him, I don't like him, and if
people don't want him on air, stop watching him. But

(45:33):
the government should never whether it's a fec or I'm sorry,
the FCC chairman or anyone else should never step in.
It's a violation of the First Amendment to get government
telling someone that they shouldn't be doing that. We saw
it during COVID. I mean, we saw what the Biden
administration did to censor people who had a different view

(45:57):
of COVID. That is wrong, and the Supreme Court ruled
that it's wrong. So I'm totally against that. But this
wasn't an issue with Ilhan Omar in my view of
free speech. In fact, if we would have passed the
resolution of censure, she still had free speech. She had
every right to say whatever vile and disgusting thing that

(46:17):
she wanted to say, and she has said a lot
of vile and disgusting things, particularly about Charlie Kirk. She's
fully entitled to do that. The question on whether or
not we should censure her is whether or not that
is becoming of a member of Congress, and whether we
should hold ourselves to a higher standard. And I would
simply say this. You know, we had a motion or

(46:41):
a resolution a few months back when two Democrats were
killed in Minnesota by this guy who went to their door,
these Democrat legislators, and he killed them. I voted for that,
and I think every Republican voted to condemn that action.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
They did. I looked this morning. Every Republican voted to
contemn the political violence that took the lives of Melissahrtman
and her husband. And you can't even get Democrats to
vote for a resolution just honoring. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
No, it's terrible that we've come to that point where
we have to fight over this. Look. I said this
last night. If you can't as a human being and
an American, if you can't say that the murder of
someone else is wrong, an innocent person, just because you
disagree with them. If you can't say that that's wrong,
you need to go back and go to church again.

(47:36):
You need to go back and have your parents raise
you again, because that is the most Unamerican thing. It's
the most unchristian thought that anybody could have. We should
all be condemning violence, and we should all stand up
for the First Amendment. They are not mutually exclusive. We
need to do the right thing, and we as leaders

(47:57):
need to hold people accountable when they don't do that.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
You know, I've been going back and forth. It's like
I can appreciate the fact that everything you just said
about the FCC and my issue with Brendan Carr is
significant enough that if he was cut loose, I'd be
okay with that, because I don't want people who have
the power to permanently disrupt someone's life. And let's be real,

(48:22):
the FCC commissioner can call my boss right now and Jeff,
you'rer former radio you know this. The FCC commissioner can
call my boss right now and say, I'm about to
find your host five hundred thousand dollars for something I
think she said wrong, and that's going to get me fired,
Like the you know I heart won't fire me for
what I said, They'll fire me for getting that. Fine,
that's how it works. So I am against that. I'd

(48:43):
be okay if he left. But at the same time,
this hue and cry over Jimmy Kimmel has been full
of crocodile tears and massive swaths of hypocrisy. That my
defense of him in the sense that what Brendan Carr
did was stupid, he should have never done that, he
should have kept his yapper shut. I'm like, uh, you know,

(49:05):
I probably should be more upset, But the outrage does
not meet the level of what actually happened, especially when
today on x I see Jim Jordan has published a
thread of admissions by alphabet by meta of the myriad
ways that the Biden administration worked very diligently to censor

(49:26):
viewpoints that at this point have found to be accurate
during COVID. You know, it's not even that they were wrong,
they were just unpopular, and now most of them have
been proven true. So the censorship issue is huge.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
And Mandy that that was all litigated. It was taken
to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court ruled on
it in the Missouri case and said that the government
interfering and trying to go to these social media companies
and have and censor through them, to use social media
companies as the agent that would censor on behalf of
the government. It was a violation of the First Amendment.

(50:02):
And the same is true if the FCC chair or
someone from or the FCC as a whole would try
and do that as well, that's wrong. But look, let's
be honest. A company has every right if they are
hiring you as a spokesperson and you say something that

(50:22):
you know is offensive, they have the right to fire you.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
That's in my contract.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
That's not a violation of the First Amendment in any way,
shape or form, right.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
I think for me, the issue really comes down to,
and I said it on the first day, it is
my belief you've worked in media that ABC News looked
at a show that's probably losing money hand over fist.
We know Colbert was losing forty million dollars a year
and they saw an opportunity to scrape that contract off
and they tried to take it, but the backlash was
such that they could not do that. And that that

(50:50):
is my theory. I'm gonna I'm gonna die on that
hill because I've been in this industry for so long,
I know how it works, and that makes the most sense.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Oh, I think that's one hundred percent true. And you
know the reality is anybody and you know this because
I do think that the radio business, having been in
it is a free market business. Right if if you
don't produce a good show, advertisers won't pay to advertise,
and pretty soon, you know, your your employer looks at

(51:22):
and says, well, I don't know, let's just go in
a different direction. So it still is one of those areas.
It's very free market uh here. But but we don't
embrace that as conservatives, right, and you know, to think
that these late night shows, they don't they're not even funny.
What what about what Jimmy Kimmel said, whether it was

(51:43):
it was uh you know, inappropriate for him to say.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
It or not all of that?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
What about it was funny? Yeah, there was nothing funny
about what he said. And so you know the job
here on late night comedy last I checked and Johnny
Carson of course, has a great famous discussion where he said,
you know, it's not my job to preach to people,
it's to entertain them and be funny. And so you
know that's that should be the standard. And I'll tell

(52:11):
you that. And you see with like Greg Guttfeld on
Fox News and his show, he's killing these guys because
he's got it down. He's trying to be funny, and
he goes after Trump, he goes after the right, he
goes after the left. He's funny, and I missed the
old days. I thought David Letterman was funny until you know,
until George Bush came along, and then he is. His

(52:34):
driven hatred for George Bush caused him to go off
in a terrible direction and ruin late night TV.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Representative Jeff Crank, I really appreciate your time today, and
boy am I glad you didn't vote against that thing
that I clearly had no idea what I was talking about.
But no, I appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Let me tell you, Mandy, I'm glad I didn't vote
it too.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
There you go to Congressman. I appreciate you coming on
today very very much, and hopefully we'll be able to
do this soon.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
That's Representative Jeff Crank, who is not the one who
voted against the Centre of ilhan Omar.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
We got that going for us. Okay, So when we
get back, I have other stuff on the blog, but
I also want to talk about an email that I
got from someone yesterday. She was trying to comfort someone,
and because of who she is, she was trying to
comfort them using the using scripture and talking about God.
And to say this person did not react well is

(53:36):
an understatement, but I think it kind of asks a
bigger question, how do you comfort someone who doesn't want
to hear about God. We'll do that next. Keep it
on Kowa. Something is happening right now on X that
I wasn't going to address yet, but I'm going to
address it because something is happening and I don't know
what it is, but I am extremely suspicious and I

(53:57):
just want to share it with you. Many of you
have have followed along with me the website or the
account at do Better Denver and it's do Better the
words DNVR is the original account, and as of today,
at do Better Denver's account had been erased on Twitter

(54:18):
and Instagram.

Speaker 7 (54:19):
Now.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
I don't have any details about why that is yet.
I'm working on that now, but what I do know
is that there is a fake account using the same
logo as do Better Denver, only it is spelled out
the word Denver and at the very top of their
account they have a little post that says my inbox
is open here for submissions. So here's what I think

(54:45):
is happening. I think this person has set up this
account to try and get people to send in submissions
so then they can turn around and out the people
that have turned in submissions. Does that make sense. Here's
why I think that it's not just me being crazy.
This morning I sent a text or a direct message

(55:08):
to this account and I said, Hi, there, I'm just
wondering who is behind this account because I know for
sure it isn't the team behind the original account. I
don't hate it, I just don't trust it yet. Can
you clarify? They responded, you know for sure it isn't
the team behind the original account. I've always been the
same one woman now right there, right there, that to

(55:30):
me says this is not the same person right there.
We've never been a team. I've always accepted submissions from
other users to showcase how much Denver has decayed. But
that doesn't mean they're part of a team behind you
do better, Denver. And the only people who would believe
such are the same type of people who tried to
ducts my contributors to the Denver Post and pretend they

(55:51):
were behind this account. As much as I am, and
then I responded, I've spoken via email with them this morning.
I have a phone call schedule for this afternoon, so
the jig is up. So then they respond, So you've
spoken with them via email. The email that was hacked,
the email that was hacked that led to my accounts
being hacked, right, have fun speaking with the hackers and

(56:14):
then they blocked me. And that, my friends, is why
I think this account is a fake and I don't
trust their motives. I think they're lying, and I think
that you need to proceed with caution before you get
involved with this account in any way, shape or form.
I just tweeted about it on Twitter. If you're on Twitter,

(56:35):
please go to at Mandy Connell and share the tweet
so people will know that these people are not to
be trusted.

Speaker 6 (56:42):
Yet.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
I mean, if it really was the person behind the account,
I've spoken to them multiple times and I have direct
message links showing that this person is a fake, they're
a liar. If they had just said, look, I'm somebody else.
But I love what they were doing and I just
wanted to continue the mission, that would have been fine,

(57:05):
but they misrepresented themselves as being someone they are not
so please, please, please, And now now I'm mad. Before
I was like, you know, passively watching what was going on.
Now I'm mad because not only did you lie to me,

(57:26):
you then tried to block me so I couldn't spread
the word. Oh oh, you have no idea who you
have chapped Now, So this is gonna be my new
project to make sure that everybody knows this account is
a fraud, and if they do submit suggestions or things
that people should know, or they send photographs of people
and destruction and drug addicts in Denver, that there is

(57:49):
a chance that this account will turn around and out
them somehow. That's what I feel is going on here,
that someone on the left is or just some bad actors.
Should not assign it to the left. You could be
an a hole and be on any side of the aisle,
but someone is doing something nefarious here. So do not
fall for this.

Speaker 8 (58:10):
Do not.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Because this is this is hot garbage, absolute hot garbage.
And again, I don't ever ask you guys to go
to my x account and retweet someone or retweet something
because I'm trying to get more clicks or any of
that stuff. I've never monetized my ex account ever, I've
never gotten any money. I just don't. So I need
you to do this because I want to shut this

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person down so hard, so hard, because they're lying, liars
who lie, they have an ulterior motive, They don't care
about things in Denver, they don't care about you, and
they are trying to create chaos. That is my viewpoint.
And if they would like to discuss it, they are
more than welcome to unblock me and send me a
direct message. Because when I first sent a direct message

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to do the actual do Better account, guess what they
were receptive? Not a complete a hole like this person was.
So it has now become a thing where I am
just going to make sure that this account gets no
traction whatsoever at all, none, zero at all. Anyway, that's

(59:20):
what's going on with Do Better Denver. I'm hopefully going
to have more information about what happened to the actual
account and what actually is going on and in all honesty,
what I'd like to find. And I have not spoken
to the founder of Do Better Denver about this, but
this is my intention. I'm just going to tell you guys,
I want to find someone to run that account who

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is willing to go on the record who is willing
to put their name attached to it and continue the
work of do Better Denver in exposing the absolute underbelly
of Denver. And unfortunately it comes I'm guessing with quite
quite quite a few, well possible death threats or things

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like that, now that we know how violent the left
can be. But I need somebody to take this over.
And if you want to do it, if you want
to put your name on it, then we can talk.
Because man, now I'm mad. Now I'm mad. I'm just mad,
mad across the board, mad about that. Anyway, We also
have some stuff on the blog that I want to

(01:00:25):
get to. I want to get to this story. I
may wait until to thirty because it is kind of
a bigger conversation and I really want to hear your thoughts.
But I do want to talk very quickly about something
at the bottom of the blog today. Lorena Garcia, the
delightful grifter who is in the House of Representatives. And
someone asked me, why do you always call Loraina Garcia grifter? Well,

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she was elected into the House of Representatives and then
almost immediately, taxpayer dollars started to be shoved to her nonprofit,
where not only she works, her spouse works, and her
parent works. She is grifting off the taxpayers of Colorado,

(01:01:06):
and now she's an Antifa. We'll get into it right
after this. Keep it on KOA my post about a
fake at Do Better Denver account that has popped up,
and I believe that they are nefarious. I don't believe
that they are trying to do the same thing that
Do Better Denver did, And I think that they're trying
to get people like you who care about the decay

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in Denver to send them submissions so they can out
you when you do. That is my theory about what's
going on, maybe not on this account, but maybe on
another account. And they have now blocked me on their
ex account, which to me screams they are lying. So
if you could go retweet that what I posted, I'd

(01:01:46):
really appreciate it. Now let me get back to Representative
Lorana Garcia. Thanks to my friend Rich Gugenheim for pointing
out she was not elected, she was appointed. And can
we all agree that appointment committee vacancy committee suck, but
the Democratic Vacancy Committee sucks even worse than the Republican

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Vacancy Committee. They managed to find the fringiest, most idiotic,
most hardcore left wing nincome poops that you could possibly imagine,
and they found Representative Lorraina Garcia. She has now posted
on Blue Sky I am and TIFA. And the reason
I bring this up is not because I give well,

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I don't give a rats ask what Representative Loraena Garcia
posts anywhere, to be perfectly frank, but I use this
as a demonstration of how mainstream political violence in the
Democratic Party is. You know, we can talk about people.
When I talk about political violence on the right, I
always think of like the fringiest of the right right,

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like the people like the white supremacists and stuff where
no rational Republican remotely condones or supports anything that they do.
In terms of political violence. You remember the Charlottesville protests
where all those idiotic men in white shirts looking like
damn fools walk through Charlottesville, Virginia in an incident that

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ended terribly with the death of another human being. There
wasn't a bunch of people on the right saying, you
know what, those white supremacists they got something going on.
I am one of them. It doesn't happen that way
where mainstream people write and center right support organizations that

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are hell bent on the destruction of society, and Antifa
is that. Antifa loves to call themselves anti fascists, but
all of the tactics they use are straight out of
the fascist playbook. The wearing of the masks, what is that?
We're now being told by the way in California that
wearing of the masks is bad, but only if you're
an ice agent. Gavin Newsom has treated masks just like

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he treated guns. Only criminals get to wear the masks,
not in California. If you're a law abiding ice age boy,
you don't get to wear a mask. But it's just
this is fine. I mean, this is fine. Loraina Garcia
wants to be part of Antifa, no problem. The rest
of the Democrats in Colorado want to sit by quietly

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and not say anything while one of their members of
the House of Representatives aligns herself with an organization that
has burned federal buildings, has shut down entire parts of cities,
has demanded that the capitalist system be dismantled. That's who
she wants to align herself with, and the rest of
the Democrats are silent. Of course, of course they're silent.

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I'm just gonna again always call it out where I
see it people, And if they want to mainstream Antifa,
more power to you. Now, I do want to shift
my attention just for one or two minutes to another
remember of the Democratic Party here in Colorado, and this
one is one I agree with. Representative Jason Crowe has
now stepped up and filed a resolution that would require

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a declaration of war from Congress before Prisident Trump bombed
any more drug votes. I welcome this. I welcomed a
declaration of war when we went to war in Afghanistan,
when we went to war in Iraq, when we go
to war all over the world, all the places that
were currently at war that we've never declared war for.
I am all for putting Congress on the hook one

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hundred percent. Make them vote, and if House Democrats want
to vote against a declaration of war against drug cartels
who are literally murdering hundreds of thousands of people every
single year in the United States, then let them vote
on the record to not do that. And I expressed

(01:05:43):
my concern when we had a great conversation with Reeve
Swainford on the show, a former prosecutor, and I was
very honest. I said, look, I'm uncomfortable feeling like these
killings are extra judicial, meaning there's no due process. So
if we had a declaration of war, that would be
a non issue for me. I'd just like to do
things legally. That's my problem, And right now I find

(01:06:06):
myself in absolute agreement with Representative Crow, although I would
ask him where why didn't you do this earlier when
there was a Democrat in charge? Just asking the question,
trying to be consistent people, trying to be consistent. Now,
when we get back, I want to talk about Poland
for a moment. I know you're like Mandy Poland, what

(01:06:29):
are we doing? But I want to talk about Poland
for a moment because what's happening in Poland right now
is fascinating. And I also want to talk about whether
or not we need a giant Ferris wheel. Does Denver
need an I A rod? No, you don't think so.
I'm kind of mixed on this, like I don't want
to pay for it as a taxpayer, but I think
it could be a cool addition to downtown. Have you

(01:06:51):
ever done the Eye in Vegas?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
Yeah? I have no thanks ever again, well, we'll talk.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
About that, because I know why he does. There's nothing
to see on the e in Vegas, like there's just
oh look, desert. Oh look, desert, Oh look, desert. We'll
do all that next. Keep it on KOA.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
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Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Y Connall keeping sad bab Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
The third hour of the show. I hope everyone is
doing very very well out there, as it is a
gloomy kind of day. Frightening up just a tiny bit,
but not very much, and we've got a lot of
stuff to talk about, not the least of which, once
again I am asking you to go to your EX account,
if you have one, and then go to my EX

(01:07:57):
account at Mandy Connell because right now on X there
is a fake account that is trying to take the
space that Do Better Denver was in. Do Better Denver
has deleted their account. I don't know why. I'm hoping
to find out this afternoon. I've already been in contact
with the people behind that website and hopefully I'll have

(01:08:19):
some clarity, but some scammer has now created a different
account at Do Better Denver that they've actually spelled out
the word Denver and when I sent them a very
nice email. As a matter of fact, after the show
gets over, I'm gonna go ahead and screenshot the direct
message exchange that I had with that person, and I'm
going to share it so everybody can see exactly what
happened before they blocked me. And if they were actually

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the person bhind the account, they would know that we've
spoken multiple times both via email, via direct message and
on the phone. Okay, so the way they reacted clearly
lying about who they are clearly lying. And if you

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could go and retweet my text about it, letting people
know that this is a fake account, because what I
am afraid is going to happen is that they are
going to take submissions from people who are taking pictures
of you know, drug addicts on the street or whatever,
all the stuff that Do Better Denver's been doing for
so long, and then they're gonna out you if you

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send it to them. That is what I suspect the
motive is here.

Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
I don't know for sure, but I suspect that that
is what's behind this. So I really appreciate it if
you could, guys, guys could go and retweet my tweet
about it, because I am going to make it my
life's work to shut this thing down because nothing makes
me madter than a liar, nothing especially a liar with

(01:09:56):
a nefarious motive, and I think that's what this is.
So I would talk about Poland for just a moment,
just just a quick moment here. So the president of
Poland is President Carol naw Rocky. I can never say
his name right, No Rocky, and it's not even that
difficult as far as Polish names go. Narwauki is not

(01:10:18):
a hard name to say, now, Rocky naw Rocky. He
was on with Maria Bartarroma about Poland's economic growth, and
I want to share this although you're not going to
hear the Polish version, You're just gonna hear the interpreter's
version of his answers. But I want you to listen
to what he attributes the growth of Poland.

Speaker 8 (01:10:38):
To This economic growth of Potland, which is no taste
by all the countries in Europe but all over the world,
is very radical. We are working in open nation. Poland
is also safe and secure, which is important. We did
not make the mistakes about illegal migration which affected Western

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European county, and we're gonna have them to repeat the mistakes.
Would not want to make that mistakes of green deal,
which also has an impact on these lives.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
Okay, So there he is talking about Poland's success story.
And let me tell you a little bit about Poland's
success story. I started watching Poland a couple of years
ago when my friend Larry Reid. Longtime listeners probably remember
me talking to Larry Reid. He was the longtime president
of the mckinaw Institute for Public Policy and then the

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longtime president still president emeritus of the Foundation for Economic Education,
and he was just given Poland's highest honor, like the
Medal of Honor for Poland, because of his work bringing
free market economics to Poland. Poland is a former Soviet
Bloc country, right, so they were starting in a deficit
and they have embraced capitalism and they have embraced free markets,

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and they have embraced poland nationalism, not the bad kind,
but the kind that says, you know what, dang it,
we're Polish and we're proud. And they've also done one
really important thing, along with several other states like Hungary
and other states that, by the way, you will hear
are far right in our news media. They are not
far right. They're just sensible. Poland did not allow an

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influx of a bunch of thousands and thousands of Middle
Eastern you know, our army aged men into Poland. They
looked at that and said, that is not a cultural
shift we're looking for. And they want to know exactly
exactly how things are going to pan out in the

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near future.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
What's what's happening with Poland right now is that there
there's a there's a data point in economics called the
PPP number, and that is purchasing power parity. What that
number is you can look at two nations and I'm
gonna use Japan as an example because it is Japan's GDP.
It's overall GDP is much higher than Poland's. Still Poland

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is still working on growing it's GDP. So Poland has
this GDP thing over here. And then purchasing power parity, though,
is the thing the number that takes into account the
cost of living, right, So the cost of living when
factored in, has Poland's PPP almost surpassing Japan's PPP. And

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the easiest way I can explain this is, in Japan,
say you're gonna go get a haircut, a basic men's haircut.
In Japan, that haircut may cost you fifty dollars. In Poland,
that may cost you five. So the buying power in
Poland goes much further than the buying power in Japan.
And that's where the PPP comes in. And Poland's PPP

(01:13:53):
is about to surpass Japan's in terms of the buying
power of the people in Poland. It's amazing what happens
when you just embrace the free economy. By the way,
I just got this from the actual person behind the
actual Do Better Denver account. I confirm that the new

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do Better Denver account is not mine and I have
no idea who it is. So if you guys think
I was a dog with a bone on the Charlie
Kirk stuff, just wait until I grab this bone and
do not let go. I hate liars. I hate people
who try to do something shady. I hate it. I

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hate it. Anyway, don't sleep on Poland. That's the longest
short of this whole thing. I actually would like to
go visit Poland. You know, many many years ago, a
friend of mine moved to Czechoslovakia. They moved to Prague,
and I didn't see them for many years. So this
was back in nineteen ninety two. A friend of mine

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from college said I'm moving to Prague. I went and visited.
I loved it. I'm going to Prague and I was like, oh, great,
good for you. So I don't see them again or
hear from them at all for maybe ten or fifteen years.
And then through another friend, I found out they had
gone to Prague just when they were sort of embracing
the free market economy in Prague, and this friend of
mine from college had built a chain of coffee shops

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because it was a true free market and they could
do things the way they wanted and treat their customers
well and grow. And that's where Poland is now. Don't
sleep on Poland. We'll be right back now. On X
everyone is spreading the word that the fake do Better
Denver account is that and fake. If you guys could
do me one more solid, go ahead and respond to

(01:15:47):
those messages on their account, because I'm blocked now for
calling them out, I'm blocked with my message. That would
be amazing. Thanks for all the work you do. Do
not fall for this scammer. Now I'm angry and that
was a bad mistake. We have to talk about autism
and Thailand all. We're going to do that at two thirty. Actually, no,
I'm want to talk about it right now. So yesterday

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Donald Trump and RFK came out and they shone light
on a study. I have not read the study. I
have not looked at the study. I do not want
to misrepresent that I know anything about what the study says,
so I can, in no way, shape or form vouch
for its veracity or the solidness of the science behind it.
Right that being said, one thing I have noticed in

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the conversation about the insane increase in autism rates here
in the United States is that whenever anyone tries to
draw any sort of conclusions that involve the pharmaceutical companies,
the immediate reaction is, no, that's the stupidest thing I've

(01:16:52):
ever heard. How could you be so dumb. The fact
of the matter is, we don't know what causes autism,
no idea, and autism can present itself in so many ways,
in so many different I actually think eventually we are
going to get to the point when we have a
better understanding of autism and how it affects people, that

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we will actually end up breaking it into multiple different diagnoses.
Because a person with autism who is severely affected, being nonverbal,
noncommunicative at all, some people cannot really participate in taking
care of themselves on any meaningful level. That level of severity,
I think is going to be put into one box.

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And then people who are affected in much more mild ways.
Maybe they have difficulty with social interactions, but otherwise they're okay.
Maybe they have difficulty with certain aspects of their lives,
but otherwise they're okay. I think they're going to be
put in a different box. And until we have any

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definitive information about what causes autism, I absolutely think it's
appropriate to say to pregnant women we have a study
that shows there may be a connection. I don't think
that's inappropriate. And by the way, from what I read,
nobody said absolutely we are sure this is what causes autism.
That's not what was said yesterday. And the reason I

(01:18:18):
feel this way is I don't know if you guys
know this, But when you are, when you find out
you're pregnant and you have that first big appointment with
your doctor, they give you a list of things that
you were not supposed to eat as a pregnant woman.
And I'm gonna read that list for you now, just
in case you didn't know. Raw or undercooked seafood, sushet oysters, clams,
undercooked meat or eggs. That includes runny yolks, rare steak, burger,

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not well done deli meats and hot dogs, high mercury
fish like tuna, unpasteurized dairy or juices, raw sprouts, alcohol,
liver or liver patae. Now, do you know how many
of these things we have a definitive connection to difficulties
or challenges with pregnancy. Out of that list, we have

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a definitive connection between alcohol and a very very very
very rare set of cases with unpasteurized dairy the rest
of it. They're just guessing when they said you can't
eat raw seafood, and I was like, wait, so no sushi,
which makes up a large part of my diet. And
they said, and I quote, no sushi, to which I responded,

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what do women in Japan e then when they're pregnant,
and I literally got the dull stare of the dairy
cow back, like what no one's ever asked that before.
But you know what I didn't do. I didn't eat
undercooked beef, which meant I didn't eat beef for my
entire pregnancy because a well done steak for me. That's punishment,
you guys. I can't do that. I'm not doing that,

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So take it however you want to take it. But
let me just say this, as a mom whose daughter
had an extremely dramatic that my doctor told me was
in no way, shape or form my fault. I still
feel guilty about that. And in the off chance that
any of these things are gonna hurt your baby, don't

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do it, because if something happens, you will never forgive yourself,
even if it isn't your fault. We'll be right back
after this. Keep it on KOA, the fake do Better
in Denver account, who obviously does not know who I am,
does not know that I have been extensively covering it
Do Better Denver for a very long time, that I
have an open line of communication with multiple people that

(01:20:33):
have been involved with the account that I've been on
the phone with people this morning that I've talked to
people via email, and what's really hilarious is that they're
trying to paint me as the liar. I have no
incentive to lie. I'm the one who told most of
you about the damn account in the first place, right
hate the real one. So I do need you to

(01:20:54):
go to at Mandy Connell on Twitter and just spread
the word. I hate liars, I hate scammers, and I'm
afraid this whoever this is, is both. What I fear
is is that they're going to try and get people
to submit photos so then they can turn around and say, look,
this person who submitted this as an awful person. I mean,

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that's what I think the game is. I don't know.
We'll find out though. Super fun Now, I want to
get to an email that I got from a woman
named Sam and, in all honesty, like usually when people
send me philosophical question emails and I get those more
than you would actually realize. I have some kind of
idea of how I'd respond to this, but this one
stumped me and it just says this, Dear Mandy, with

(01:21:39):
everything that's happened in the last couple of weeks, I
had a family member tell me the following when I
was speaking to them regarding grief. I did, in fact
try to comfort her with scripture and my thoughts and
feelings on losing someone. My family member said, normalize comforting
people without hiding behind God. Stop weaponizing people's grief as

(01:22:00):
your excuse to preach. Nobody wants to hear your recycled
God has a plan, nonsense when they're broken. That's not
comforting to some. That's lazy, selfish, and tone deaf. If
you can't show up for someone without dragging your religion
into it, then you're not helping. You're just making their
pain about you. Sometimes people need empathy, not evangelism. If
your faith is all you've got to offer, maybe let

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someone else step in who actually knows how to comfort.
Stop forcing your belief into people's grief. Then Sam continued,
I'm still not sure how to feel about her comments.
I didn't argue with her, and maybe I was wrong
not to defend my point of view, but I was
just taken back by the comments. This is actually a
really good question, and it's a really good question that

(01:22:43):
I have been in a situation where I had to
struggle with that because my first of all, I know
it's going to sound really terrible, and I am terribly
sad when people die.

Speaker 6 (01:22:56):
I am.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
I mean, when my father died, I was gutted and heartbroken,
and when my mother in law died, I was very sad,
But ultimately, because I don't believe that this is the end,
I can look at the death of someone as especially
someone that I viewed to be a good person who
lived their life in a positive way and made a

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positive impact on this earth. I look at that as
they have gone on to the next big adventure, right,
They've gone on to a world where they're not in
pain anymore, and they're not broken anymore, and their bodies
haven't given out anymore. And for me, though I personally
am sad and I feel sad because of that, I
don't feel sad for them in the sense that I'm

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able to say they're truly off to a better place,
and especially if they had a long lingering illness or
something like that like my dad did. I mean, when
my father died, I was grief stricken, but I was
also relieved because of my belief system. I believed he
was going on to something better than what we have here,
And how could you not be happy after watching someone

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you love suffer for many, many, many months? Right, I mean,
how could you not, in my mind anyway feel like
finally they have released from the pain that has been
holding them back. So I got a little bit, I
got a little bit like I don't know what to
do here, I don't know how to respond, And I'm

(01:24:22):
glad I'm not alone. This texter at five sixty six
nine zero on the Common Spirit Health text line. And
I'd love to hear your thoughts, Mandy. I'm a rabid
Christian and that email was not wrong? Can you make
that available somehow? It's a great teaching point. It is
on today's blog. I put the email as I mean,
I embedded it in today's blog so you can go
read it. I agree that when you approach someone in

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any case, and not just in grief, but when you
approach someone who is not ready, willing or able to
receive that mess, it is not the right time. And
I've experienced this. A very very close friend of mine
who is not a religious person, lost a child. And

(01:25:12):
if you have never been in a situation, and I
hope to God you have not or seen someone or
gone through that process with someone who has lost a child.
It is absolutely the most devastating thing. And it was
devastating to watch as someone who cared so much and
so deeply for her. But I got to tell you,
you lose a child, you're questioning God. You're not leaning

(01:25:35):
into God a lot of the times unless you already
have a very strong foundation of faith. I think there
are things in life that test your faith like nothing else. Right,
So this is one of those. This is one of those,
and I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
What to do.

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
In this situation. This Texter said when we lost our daughter,
the initial God has a planned visit was not helpful.
Exactly my point, especially when you lose a child. And
by the way, when I say lose a child, I
don't care if your child is forty years old, I
don't care. I had the opportunity to have a long
conversation with my mother in law who's now my late
mother in law. She lost two adult children before she

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passed away. Okay, she lost a daughter and a son
to illness, and we had a conversation about that near
the end of her life, and I said, how did
you get through that? And she said, I didn't. I
just pretended like I did, and finally I got to
a point where I could function, so nobody else knew

(01:26:41):
how badly I was hurting, right so coming in then
and saying, you know, God has a plan or they
were needed in heaven by God. And I got to
tell you guys, watching Erica Kirk talk about her husband
and being at the side of you know, his savior,
it was incredibly moving to me. But she already had

(01:27:02):
that belief system firmly in place. That was not a
new consideration for her. So I do think this is
a great question, and how do you approach someone who
is not where you are? And I do think it's
also a valid criticism, And it's easy for us to
say because we rely on our faith, like this is
what gets me through. And I think maybe maybe even

(01:27:25):
saying something to the effect of this is what I
lean on. And I realized that you don't share those beliefs.
So all I can say is I'm so deeply sorry,
and I wish this had not happened to you, and
please let me know if there's anything I can do
to make it better. I will share this one more

(01:27:46):
part of a friend of mine who lost her child.
And I don't want to go too much into that
because it's not my business or my story to share.
But I did make a commitment to myself that every
day I would go to her house and I would say,
let's go for a walk, just to get her out

(01:28:07):
of her house. I mean this was right after it happened.
It was just horrific and awful and everything was terrible,
and I just said, just be there, just show up,
and we would often, I mean most days, we would
just go for a walk and there would be no
conversation whatsoever, none. It would be in complete silence, and
we'd go back to her house and I'd sort of

(01:28:28):
get her sorted and I'd say do you need anything else?
And she'd say no, and I would go about my business.
But just showing up, just saying what do you need
from me? Maybe it's just to sit quietly, Maybe it's
just to stop by, check in, be seen, and then
leave again.

Speaker 9 (01:28:48):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
I mean, that's the trouble because we're also afraid of
making it worse. Well, when someone is grieving, very little
can make it worse. So let me get some of
these text messages, because sometimes you guys are smarter than
I am. Mandy, My only comfort to offer is I
love you. If the added God loves you as offensive,

(01:29:09):
I'll move on.

Speaker 9 (01:29:12):
This.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
One says when you approach someone that's not willing or able,
they are obviously are not believers. I agree, you don't
shove God down your throat. You comfort them, but it
is way more comforting when you're a believer and you
know that person is going to somewhere better. But you
can't force that on someone who's not there yet. And
I actually think it has a boomerang effect, right, It
actually when someone is overcome with grief, especially if they're

(01:29:35):
in the anger part of grief, and they're angry at
everyone that allowed this to happen, in anyone that they
could perceive to allow this to happen, throwing God into
the mix just gives them another thing to blame. So yeah, Mandy,
I think there is an emotional intelligence missing from society.
It is all about how you approach someone and gain
an audience in conversation. I agree. A very good friend

(01:29:59):
of mine says this to exter lost her adult daughter
two years ago and she could not have survived without
having God in her life. It made the difference, and
I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled to hear that. And for my
late mother in law, she was a woman of very
strong faith, very strong faith, and as a matter of fact,
near the end of her life, we had the great

(01:30:19):
privilege of being able to spend a lot of time
with her while her mind was still active in there
as she was in the process of being in hospice
and sort of moving towards the end of her life,
and she never lost her faith, and towards the very end,
the last time I saw her, she was actually talking,
engaged and happily about the people that she had known

(01:30:42):
in her entire life that she could not wait to
see again. And it was just so cool to hear
her have that conversation about, you know, all the people
that she wanted to see again, and it was very comforting.
I think for everybody. Her faith was very comforting for
everybody else. Mandy with thoughts beliefs have brought them comfort

(01:31:02):
in previous losses or grief, maybe a poem or a
walk in nature. That's meeting them where they are, right,
I mean, that's kind of how we do it. Can't
ignore this, and your episcopal pastor would agree. Unless you
believe what Jesus did for us wait taking our punishment
on himself and giving us a ticket to heaven, everyone
does not go to a better place. I disagree with that,

(01:31:26):
but we'll have that conversation later. Mandy. That email brings
up a great perspective that I never thought of. I
think it's important to empathize with the grieving person. However,
I think one can still let that grieving person know
they are being prayed for, and whether they believe in
God or not, I would hope that they would understand
the heart of the sentiment. But yes, evangelizing at that
point when someone is grieving is not cool. Thanks for

(01:31:50):
the discussion, Manday. I always say grief is like the ocean.
It is rough some days with large waves that will
pull you under, and calm and beautiful at other times.
It is always there and very vast, Mandy. The Jewish
community sits shiva with people in grief. They only speak
of the grieving person. Much of our words can be
platitudes at times of deep grief. It is called the

(01:32:12):
ministry of presence, not words. Uh huh, Mandy, you hit
the nail on the head. You have to be there
for them. I lost a daughter about five years ago,
nothing worse in my life. Ever. I am so sorry.
I'm now getting a lot of text messages from people
after my son passed away. I had no problem with
anybody bringing God into the conversation. What I did have

(01:32:33):
a problem with was somebody comparing the loss of my
son to the loss of their dog. And guys, right there,
that's the problem with the concept of empathy, right. Sympathy
says I feel terrible that you are suffering this loss,
and my heart breaks for you because your heart is breaking,

(01:32:56):
I feel terrible for you. Empathy says I need to
put myself in your shoes. And if you just lost
a dog and we're super sad, that might seem like
a good idea. It's not. It's a terrible idea. As
a matter of fact, even if you've suffered a loss yourself,
that might not be the time to bring it up,
because then that does make it about you, right, and

(01:33:16):
that's not what we're here to do. I find it
comforting watching the near death experience videos where they talk
about heaven and everyone pretty much has the same experience
and is kicking and screaming because they don't want to
come back correct. As a matter of fact, my favorite VINNYE. Tolman,
you know I love him, he said when he got
back from his after death experience, because he was dead

(01:33:39):
for a long time, he actually looked up the most
dangerous jobs in the world because he knew he couldn't
kill himself because that would violate his covenant with God.
But he was just trying to put himself in a
situation where he could get back there sooner. Mandy, when
it comes to ministering to family members or friends, they
already know about you and your faith. They already know
that you're going to be the person and that believes

(01:34:00):
in comforting them. They will come to you when it's time.
You don't always have to be right out of the
gate coming to them. And when you do go to them,
you can minister to them and give them the message
of comfort and the Lord without beating them over the
head with scripture and the Bible. I hear you, but
I still think it is better to reach out, just
do so in a manner that you believe they would

(01:34:23):
want to receive.

Speaker 8 (01:34:25):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
There are times when I'm trying to tell my daughter
something important and I can tell she's only halfway listening
to me, and I will stop what I'm saying and
look at her and say, are you ready to receive
what I am trying to give you? Because what I'm
trying to give you is important and I need you
to be ready to receive it. And to her credit,
she will listen. And so anyway, let's check out with

(01:34:51):
Ryan Edward. Wait, who's in? I didn't hear I'm sorry
Ryan Edwards is in? Everybody? Hello, Hello, Ryan Edwards.

Speaker 6 (01:34:57):
So Ryan, I love what you said about empathy there
by the way. That was great.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
I don't you know, I understand the concept of empathy,
but but I do think I more fully believe that
empathy is a lie. You cannot fully put yourself in
someone else's shoes. It's a lie, right, And I think
that people who say, oh, you need to have empathy,
they do it for themselves. Sympathy is what we have.

(01:35:23):
Sympathy is where you say, holy crap, what you're going
through is absolutely awful, and I feel terrible for you
because you can't walk in someone else's shoes. It's an impossibility,
and that's what empathy requires. Anyway, did mean to go
on that further rant because now it's time for the
most exciting segment on the radio of its kind in
the world. Ryan, you sound a little scratchy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
It's been you know.

Speaker 7 (01:35:48):
Yeah, well I woke up under the weather.

Speaker 5 (01:35:52):
Although I'm feeling feeling better now that I'm in a huge,
full blown Twitter fight. Yeah, Twitter fight going on right now.
So anyway, more on that tomorrow. Let's talk about our
dad joke of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Please.

Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
I told my suitcases that there will be no vacation
this year. Now I'm dealing with emotional baggage. Oh god, yeah, wow, yep,
I kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
Like that when I'm not gonna lie. Okay, what is
the work of today? Please?

Speaker 7 (01:36:18):
It is an adjective adjective non Parrell, non Parrell, non prell,
no n O N P R A E I L
A R E I L Yes, non parrell, non Parrell
not a candy.

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
I swear non parrel is a candy, though I don't
know what it means. If it's an.

Speaker 7 (01:36:39):
Adjective, anything non something non parrell describes that which has
no equal because it is better than any other non.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
Non Parrell candy. Well, they're crushed, I'm telling you right now,
they're candies. Non Parrell's candy. The they're the white candy
with the little dots on it. You know what I'm
talking about. There they have sugar and they have tiny
on top of them, like little teeny tiny snowballs. Anyway,
that's neither. It was the thing. I don't care if

(01:37:08):
you eat me either, Nonrell nor here all right. In
June twenty nineteen, a Guinness World Record was set for
the world's largest coffee cup. How much coffee can the
cup hold?

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Twelve gallons?

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
Oh god, no, I'm gonna say bigger than that. I'm
gonna say like a thousand gallons?

Speaker 6 (01:37:26):
Oh my good Ryan, I well, I was more around
uh Anthony Rodd. So I'll say I'll say one hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:37:32):
I am closer than both of you, just over six
thousand gallons Longa's cup was created by Alcadia Municipalit Dicincina
de Parquet de Bellamarchininaumbia. That's a lot. Do you have
to write all that on your address? But in Colombia,
there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
That's the world record.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
Than that is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
Non Varell je Valdez was there that day? Is it candy?
I didn't know anyway? What is our What does our
Jeopardy category play? You're on a roll? Okay, you're on
a roll?

Speaker 7 (01:38:05):
A newspaper covering Congress since nineteen fifty five, or the
act of going down the list as you check class
attendance Manny, man.

Speaker 5 (01:38:17):
What is correct?

Speaker 7 (01:38:20):
Nicholas McKay invented this four letter roller using a toilet
paper roll and tape to spruce up his suit for
a dance.

Speaker 5 (01:38:27):
Manny, what's a lip roller?

Speaker 6 (01:38:29):
Correct? Roll tide is trademarks? Fanny's used?

Speaker 5 (01:38:34):
What is the Alabama Crimson tide?

Speaker 6 (01:38:36):
Correct? Jeez?

Speaker 7 (01:38:38):
Photographers and videographers set this speed to avoid the distorting effect. Ryan,
what is pre roll? No distorting effect called rolling? This,
which I have no idea, is not.

Speaker 6 (01:38:50):
As a as a photographer videographer myself, that's not really
it's shutter so rolling shutter. No, No, I don't hear that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:00):
This appetizer got its name as it is traditionally served
during a specific time of the year, the first day
of Chinese New Year.

Speaker 6 (01:39:09):
And these are awful and I don't like.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
Chinese New Year. I have no idea, and I'm sitting
on the wind.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
What is a spring roll?

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (01:39:17):
I like gross by the.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
Way, snowcaps candy are non perels. That's what snowcaps are.
Do you know what those little candies are that you
have at the movies?

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
Yes I do.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
I'm just letting you know. Anyway. What's coming up on
KA Sports?

Speaker 7 (01:39:30):
Oh yeah, Also of fun stuff, we got Gare Bowles
right off the top of the show on Tuesday, which
is always fun.

Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Shelby Harris with joining us at for a big win
for the Browns over.

Speaker 7 (01:39:38):
The Packers, and then Rod Smith in studio at five o'clock.

Speaker 5 (01:39:42):
Big Day. It's all coming up next. We'll be back
tomorrow for a full show right here on KOA