10-14-24 FULL SHOW - New way to grow crops and an update on a struggling caller

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Nicety Prey by Donald Keithing, sad Thing, Welcome, Vocal, Welcome
to a.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Monday edition of the show. I'm your host for the
next three hours. Mandy Connell join by Michael Coover in
for Anthony Rodriguez who is cheating on me with Rick
Lewis over on the Fox doing his morning show as
Kathy Lee has taken some time off.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
That's fine, Coover. I'm glad to have you, glad to
have you here today. Yes, and he gives me double
thumbs up.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
We have a lot to talk about and a bunch
of stuff on the blog, so let's jump right in,
shall we. Let's go to mandy'sblog dot com. That's Mandy's
blog dot Look for the headline that says ten fifteen
twenty four blog a new way to Grow crops and
an update on a struggling caller.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Click on that and here are the headlines you will
find within.

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I think it's missing Office half of American, all the
ships and clipments of sakoona press Platt.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Today on the.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Blog sometimes people reach out to me growing crops in
an unexpected place.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
My voter guide is here.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
CBZ management is pleading their case on x jd Vance
calls out the downplaying of the situation.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Dude scrolling.

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What is happening with Colorado's parental evaluation program? A group
of polygamists tries to steal federal land. Speaking of weird
Colorado stories, Colorado roads suck, and sea dot doesn't care?

Speaker 5 (01:46):
What if we didn't fall back this year?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
When someone gets sick from moldy Pott, the case for
rank choice voting a mystery wolf kills in Elbert County.
Gay governor stifles gay speech. This thread made my stomach hurt.
A Nobel prize for showing freedom is good for economies.
The manly Tim Waltz when the pheasant hunting scrolling call

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flax loses another business? How much just taking care of
loved ones cost of family? Baby walkers are a menace?
The progressive myth of racist police shootings labro elite probably
isn't happening. Bill maher on Chapel roon about that, Ku professor,
I'm trying this next time. Chuck wants me to do
something I don't want to do. Kamala has lost SNL.

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Those are headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com,
and I just realized one of those headlines I have
to remove because I couldn't fix the video to make
it work. So ignore that headline about what I'm going
to do if Chuck asked me to do something that
I don't want to do, because I'm about to.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Take that out now.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Nonetheless, we got a lot of stuff on the blog today,
including a couple of guests, one that I'm looking forward
to because I'm interested in hearing what he wants to
talk about, and one that I'm interested in hearing about
because I bet, I bet that some of you out
there were listening. When a guy named Bill called the
show and Bill was struggling. He was struggling badly. He

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was living in his truck.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
He was an addict.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
He wasn't quite sure what to do, and I suggest
that he went to the Other Side Academy. He didn't
want to go to step Denver because he thought they
would not have a place to put his truck, and
I said, well, go to the Other Side Academy. Another
wonderful treatment program that we've talked to the director Lola

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Strong on the show before. Well, I got an email
and I'll read it later in the show. I got
an email last week from Bill and he and Lola
Strong are coming in today for an update. And in
all the things I get to do because I have
a radio show, I've gotten to go to incredible places
just I've gotten to go to Super Bowl, I've gotten

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to go to Final Fours. I've gotten to go to
the Masters, I've gotten to go to you know, golf tournaments.
I've gotten to meet presidents. I've gotten to do all
of these things because of this show. But none of
them mean as much to me as when I actually
help someone and someone reaches out to me later and says, wow,
you really helped me.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
And I've gotten these emails through the.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Years, and oddly they're never about politics, you guys, no
one has ever written me to say, thank goodness, you've
changed me into a conservative Like that's never happened ever once.
But what has happened is that in the stuff that
we talk about on the show that isn't political, sometimes
it makes a difference. And I'm so excited to I've

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talked to Lola on the show before, but not in person.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
So I'm excited to meet Lola.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
I'm excited to tell you guys about what's happening at
the Other Side Academy, and I'm super excited about meeting Bill.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
So that is going to come up at about two thirty.
You don't want to miss this. It is going to
be simply outstanding.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Now coming up a little bit earlier in the show,
there was a story in the news about this the
other day and I just thought it was so cool
that I wanted to talk to the owner of farm
Box Foods myself, and Joseph Cammick is that guy. He
is growing food in shipping containers and if you can't
see how much of a difference this could make in

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places where drought is common or starvation is common, there
are still places around the world where food and security
is a daily situation for the people who live there,
and I just think this is like the coolest thing ever.
So we're going to talk to Joseph a little bit
later in the show as well, so it's going to
be very interesting, But we do have a lot of
political stuff to talk about. You guys were in the

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home stretch, right. I was saying this to a friend
of mine earlier today. I was like, oh my gosh,
we're less than a month away from the election, and
I am stoked about that.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
I was just talking to Ross.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
I mean, I realize that this is an unpopular thing
to say for those of you who really love Donald Trump,
and I get it. I understand that there are people
out there that just love the man. They think he's
the right answer for the country. They just don't see
anybody else out there that could do the things they
believe he can do. Now, I don't feel that way

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about Donald Trump. I am voting for Donald Trump, but
with no enthusiasm. I'm gonna be perfectly honest, because I
genuinely believe that these are two of the worst candidates
we've ever had to choose from ever in the history
of elections. Now, granted, there might have been some worst
candidates way back in the day in those elections where
I can't generally remember the presidents from those particular time

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periods in our history, I don't know, But in the
modern era, there's never been two worst candidates in my mind,
So I'm ready for this to be over.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Just over.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
If we could do it today, I'd be like, Yep,
let's do it. I find it hard to believe that
there are still people undecided. The only people that I
know that I believe are true undecided are conservatives who
just can't see themselves voting for Donald Trump. They feel
very strongly about January sixth, they feel very strongly about
the lack of character, but they're just they just can't

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bring themselves to vote for Kamala Harris because they think
she'd be even worse policy wise for the country. Those
are people that I think are really vacillating. Still, I
don't know any people on the left that are vacillating.
I mean, maybe there's independence in the middle who are
just now dialing in, But how can you not have
an opinion yet?

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I just don't get it.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Now.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
I'm talking to a highly educated talk radio audience, so
I'd be shocked if there was anyone in this audience
that did not fall into the category that I said
on the right, where they're really struggling because they don't
want to vote for Donald Trump. Are any of you
independent truly in the middle, don't really cast your ballots
on a regular basis with one party or the other

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that are still undecided about this race. If you are,
I'd love to hear from you. You can text us
on the Kowa Common Spirit Health text line five sixty
six nine. Oh, Mandy, I'm sure I'm in the minority,
but after seeing him at the rally, I like him
so much less.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
So you know.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, Mandy, go Sober change my life thanks to you
and Ross. You had an impact. I'm thrilled to hear that.
I still think Go Sober is an absolutely wonderful organization.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Mandy, you gave me quite a shock.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
If it's the fifteenth, my taxes will be late. It's
the fourteenth, and I don't judge you tax turner in
or later. I don't judge you because I've been that
person so many times. Now that we have a great accountant,
I don't have to be that person anymore. Sorry about that. Yep,
it is the fourteenth, Thank you. I will fix the
date on the blog. Not every day is perfect, yep, yep.

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Trying to figure out I came up with an easy,
dumb nickname for the Vice president after hearing her responses
in any interview. We should call her Ramblla Harris. That's
a good point, Mandy. A vote for Trump is a
vote for jd.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Vance.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
He's a good man in the future of the Republican Party.
And honestly text her that is the way I'm looking
at my vote, because the more I hear jd Vance talk,
the more I like the dude. You know, I know
he said some things in the past that are controversial,
and his comments about the childless cat ladies, though I
totally understood what he was talking about, were you know,

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ham handed. But he wasn't running for vice president when
he made those comments. As a matter of fact, a
lot of his comments he made well before he was
in political office. And if you right now in this
listening audience, have never said anything stupid, then please raise
your hands. I wish I could say I never said
anything stupid, but I've said stupid stuff on the radio,

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so you know, those without sin and all that.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Mandy, I went to the Trump rally.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Now I like Trump more. There you go, Mandy dropped
off my ballot this morning. I think if someone looked
at it, they would have a hard time figuring out
which way I lean.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
I'd love to have longer conversation with you about that.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Texter just to get a better feel for what guides
you in your votes, because at this stage there are
so few areas of commonality and the candidates are so
polarized because of our broken primary system that rewards the
most polarizing candidates, and I'd love to know more about that.

(10:35):
You can email me Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com.
And I'm not beating you up by any stretch of
the imagination, Texter. I'm just looking for a better window
into your mind. I'm not beating anybody up if they
make an informed vote, if they thoughtfully decide to vote
for someone that I think is wrong, I have no

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issue with that voter.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
It's voters who don't put any f in, who don't
even bother to.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Inform themselves about the issues and go in and vote
a straight ticket on either side that annoy the crap
out of me. Seriously, Mandy, I can't stand him, but
will hold my nose for a third time and vote
for him. Yep, yep, Mandy, I would never vote for
someone who incited an insurrection, Okay, Texter, So who are
you voting for?

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Mandy?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I don't want to vote for Donald Trump. I can't
vote for Kamala Harris don't know what to do. Jim,
and Jim, you're exactly the person that I was talking about, exactly,
And I think there's a lot of people out there,
Mandy want to talk about the ignorant people threatening FEMA
workers in North Carolina thanks to Trump's misinformation, forming militias
to harass and threatened workers. You guys, can I just say,

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until you've been in that situation, you need to shut
your pie hole.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
You need to shut your mouths.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Because if you think those people who are recovering from
a hurricane that destroyed a huge swath of North Carolina
are glued to the televisions that they don't don't have
anymore listening to what Donald Trump is saying, you've lost
your damn mind. People are angry because they don't feel
like they're getting help fast enough.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
And when you are the person waiting for help and
it doesn't come.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
You will get angry enough to start a militia to
harass FEMA workers. I've been those people before. I didn't
start a militia, but you go seven days without power.
These people have out of power for three weeks. They
don't even have enough money to do their basic the
problem with all this stuff with FEMA, and I'm gonna
go on a little bit of a tangent, then we're

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gonna get back on track. FEMA should not be the
first thing that people in an emergency look to for help.
First of all, FEMA gives out tiny little checks, okay,
and I mean tiny little checks, and going through the
FEMA process. I have gone through the FEMA application process.
We were out of our home for three months after

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a huge set of hurricanes, four hurricanes in a row
hit Florida in two thousand and four, two thousand and five.
I can't remember which year, but I was living in
Florida when this happened. We got hit by all three storms.
The flooding was out of control. I got flooded out
of my house for three months. I applied to FEMA
for rental assistance and I got turned down. Got turned

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down why, I don't know. They don't give you a reason.
They just sew you know. FEMA is the last organization
that should be looked to for help. The state governments, unfortunately,
have offloaded their own emergency management. And I would say
the only state that I know of that still does
an incredible job with emergency management is Florida because it

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is necessary to have a strong and robust emergency management
department in Florida because you have so many emergencies, and
the Florida emergency management is so good that Barack Obama
hired the director of Florida's FEMA to go to DC
and head up FEMA when he was president. The thing
that Barack Obama did, I gave him credit when he

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did it. He hired the absolute best to run FEMA.
But states should be coming in to handle this stuff.
But they've offloaded their responsibility for a disaster response to
the federal government.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
FEMA should not even be on the ground.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
I don't think in these situations, FEMA should be doling
out money to state government emergency management teams that already
have people on the ground, that already know the terrain,
that are already familiar with the territory. And FEMA, the
national organization, should not be anywhere near any of this stuff.
States should be responsive for emergencies like this. Now they

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may need federal dollars to do it, but every state
should be managing their own emergency management department. This should
not be a federal responsibility in any way, shape or form.
So yeah, Ralph says, if you're dependent on the government
for anything, you're an idiot. Be as self sufficient as
you can whole house generator, portable generator, feod, food and munitions.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Andy, It's easy for me not to vote for either
of them.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I've thought ahead of what I'll feel like if I
vote for either one and my conscience won't allow it.
Maybe I'll write into Santis or vote libertarian. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Mandy Harris as commander in chief, No way. I have
two grandsons in the Marines.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Kamala says, this Texter has got to be beaten. I've
pledged that I would not vote for Trump, but may
God have mercy on my soul.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
I must. I feel you, I really feel you, Mandy.
I agree. In this election for president, we are voting
for the best looking pig.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
On the truck. That is exactly how I feel, exactly, Mandy.
My thinking part two on why this person likes Trump less.
He blabbed on about him the whole time. Never once
did he talk about me or my struggles. Yeah, yeah,

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Mandy is an independent. My mind has been made up
for months. I think the issue is how many have
made up. There have their mind made up, but are
maybe just going to sit it out. Voter enthusiasm will
be the key. Yeah, yep, Mandy. Which of the ten
commandments do you feel Trump abides by? Well, I don't

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really sit in judgment of other people and their adherents
to the Ten Commandments. That's not my responsibility, and it's
God's responsibility, not mine.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
And honestly, if you're talking about character, I.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Mean, we know the adultery ones out the window for
both of them, because kamal Aire has had an affair
with the married Willie Brown and Trump has had numerous
affairs on various wives throughout the year. So that one's
I don't think he's killed anyone, uh stealing? Not sure,
Uh trying to this is embarrassing. But all of the

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ten commandments honor thy mother and father.

Speaker 8 (17:04):
He did do that.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
He honored his mother and father.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
I don't know if he uses the Lord's name in vain,
I'm not sure about that one. I know he does
use curse words, but those are not the same as
using the Lord's name in vain.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
So I mean, I'm not sure what you're asking.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I've already been very clear about my feelings about his character,
which I don't think is you know, I wouldn't want
my daughter to date him or Miriam, that's for sure,
not even a little bit.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Now when we get back. First of all, my voter
guide is on the blog. I know that ballots have dropped.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I'm getting a lot of pushback from people who say, Mandy,
you got to change your recommendation on Prop one thirty one,
which is the ranked choice voting recommendation. I will not,
but I want you guys to realize you don't have
to vote for everything that I vote for or that
i'm for. Right, I put my voter guide out there
so you know how I feel about things and why

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I'm voting the way I feel I vote. The problem
that I'm having with the opposition to Prop one thirty one,
which is ranked choice voting, is that it is all
coming from hyperpartisan people, meaning they are party people.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
They are political.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Animals from either the Democrat or the Republican party, and
their arguments are all essentially it weakens the.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Two party system when you get right down to it.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
It weakens the power of the party faithful to decide
who everybody gets to vote for, and the notion that
somehow this is going to be the thing that keeps
Republicans from getting elected, when in reality a vast majority
of Democrats.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Or excuse me, districts are solidly.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Democrats, so there's no chance of a Republican getting elected.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Does not work for me.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I've got to call them on the blog, but I
can't theory about it today. But again, if you disagree,
vote your conscience. I'm not here to tell you what
to do. I'm here to assist you in thinking through
the process.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
That's it. That's on the blog today. We're going to
take a very quick time out when we back.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
The management company who owns the apartments in Aurora have
taken to x to plead their case.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
We're going to talk about that when we get back.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Interesting Twitter thread or x thread or whatever you want
to call it popped up today on the account of
CBZ Management. They are the management company that has been
accused of being slum lords by me and other people,
and they've been accused of this because of the deplorable
conditions that have been found at the apartment complexes that

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they own. Now I'm going to read Cbz's Twitter thread
to you because I think it is interesting, And I
reached out to CBZ management, and I want me tell
you what I said to them, because I believe in honesty.
As I'm approaching people for an interview, I don't want
them to ever feel sandbagged, right, So I reached out

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today and I said, I have a radio show in
Denver on KOA Radio eight fifty AM and ninety four
to one FM and would love to have someone from
your group on the show. I've been very critical of
you and would be very happy to have you on
the show to get out your side of the story.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Can we make this happen?

Speaker 4 (20:08):
And they said no, We're available for an off the
record interview or to answer printed questions. And I said, great,
then let's set up a phone call and they said great,
and we have a tentative phone call scheduled.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
So as soon as I hear back from them, I
will let you know.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
But I want to share this because, as I said,
I've been very critical of people here in this group.
They say on their Twitter thread, gangs have taken control
of several of our properties in Aurora, Colorado in an
attempt to discredit this fact for political purposes and avoid
governmental accountabilities. Some have spread false information about our situation.

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Let us correct the record or set the record straight.
We started managing these buildings when new owners acquired the
Colorado properties in twenty nineteen. At the time, the properties
were in poor condition and our mission was to renovate them,
thereby increasing their value. This was an ambitious project that
would significantly benefit the people of Aurora while providing returns

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to the new owners. We understood this project would take
years to yield results and would be both time consuming
and costly, involving comprehensive upgrades to every unit and the
overall structure.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
To manage the project effectively.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Given our New York based operations, our representative moved to
Colorado with his family. We also undertook a complete renovation
of nearly every unit in the now well known buildings
you've seen in the news. The image is shown depict
our newly renovated apartments. Everything was progressing smoothly. Property values

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were rising and vacancy rates were dropping. It was a
win win for both the owners and the city of Aurora.
Now I have to say these pictures of the renovated apartments,
they are quite nice. Nobody's ever going to say they're luxury,
but they're clean, they're neat, they have new appliances, they

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have nice flooring, they've been painted. They look quite nice.
Certainly not what we've seen on the news. Now they continue.
After some time, we noticed a rise in crime and
tenant complaints. The most alarming moment occurred when our local
CBZ representative was attacked at the end of twenty twenty three.
He'd gone to inspect a recently vacated three bedroom apartment,

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a rare occurrence for such a large unit, only to
find a group of men already inside. When he refused
their five hundred dollars bribe to overlook the situation, they
brutally attacked him. This photo was taken shortly after he escaped,
just before being admitted to the hospital. The video footage
comes from one of our security cameras, capturing part of

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the assault. After the attack on our CBZ representative, he
began getting threatening text messages. We also frequently found people
illegally opted occupying newly vacated apartments during scheduled tours. This
was initially attributed to an influx of migrants exploiting squatter laws.
We even received a call from a tenant returning from

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vacation only to find strangers living in his apartment. This
legitimate tenant was forced to find a new home after
police couldn't help him when confronted. When confronted, many of
these illegal tenants and squatters claimed they had already paid rent,
which we soon realized was true, but not to us.

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They were paying rent to a different entity. To address
this entity, gangs, we contacted every city official we could
think of for help with the problem. Unfortunately, none were
willing to take meaningful action. Meanwhile, our CBZ representative continued
receiving threatening messages in which these criminals revealed his home
address and his spouse's name. Finally, the Aurora Police Department, FBI,

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and Homeland Security informed us that those sending the messages
and controlling our buildings were part of the notorious Trenda
Aragua gang from Venezuela. They also mentioned that our situation
was just quote a blip on the radar, as this
gang is causing significant problems nationwide. Two days after our
FBI meeting, the gang confronted our on site manager, asserting

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control over.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
All three properties.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
They offered an ultimatum here rental income fifty to fifty
or lose the buildings permanently. They also threatened to harm
him and his family. For the safety of our management
team and their families, we withdrew them from the properties
and focused on seeking help from government agencies. Once we
fully understood what we and our tenants were facing, we

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expected a swift response, with the city offering meaningful resources
and police protection, perhaps even from the National Guard, to
help us regain control of our properties.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
That never happened.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Instead, we were left helpless, watching as violence, bullets, and
destruction over took our buildings. Many of our legitimate tenants
fled out of fear. Despite the obvious crisis, several city
officials refused to acknowledge the reality. Instead, they blamed us,
citing code violations as the reason for shutting.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Down our property.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Violations we couldn't resolve for tenants who weren't even ours. Finally,
one city councilwoman, at Danielle Drinsky, decided to take action
after one of our last remaining legitimate tenants, Cindy Romero,
reached out to her in desperation. Luckily, Cindy had her
own cameras most of ours had been destroyed by the gangs.

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And provided video proof to the councilwoman. She realized the
city could no longer ignore the situation if it was
documented on camera. Once she gathered sufficient video evidence, she
assisted the tenant in relocating to safety before publicly releasing
the footage. Despite clear evidence, many still deny the reality
of the situation, sometimes using us a scapegoats. That's why

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we are no longer staying silent. We will continue to
counter falsehoods with simple facts and evidence.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yes, gangs did take control of our.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, and the government did nothing.
That is the real story. If you have any questions,
please feel free to ask now. Our newsroom did ask.
They asked the City of Aurora, and this is a
statement that the City of Aurora provided. We are not
going to give credence to these continued exaggerations. Please see

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the numerous previous statements and many public records we have provided.
These delinquent property owners, managers, and or investors conveniently failed
to acknowledge that their own bank lenders took them to
court in the last few weeks, where a judge ordered
some of their problematic properties into receivership. That means a
judge has given the legal authority to a third party

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receiver to actually manage the properties, and who the property
owners will be forced to compensate.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
I don't know. Here's what I do know.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
I do know that city officials downplayed what was actually
going on. I don't necessarily trust them on this issue.
That being said, I don't necessarily know that I trust CBZ.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Management on this issue.

Speaker 9 (27:23):
Right.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
I'm not sure that any of these people are truly trustworthy.
That's my problem now.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
As I said, I reached out to CBC management via
X and said, I would love to talk to you
in an off the record fashion. If I have the
opportunity to talk to them in an off the record fashion,
I'd love to know what I should ask them from
you guys, text me five sixty six n I know,
I'd love to know what your questions are, because God knows,
I have a lot.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
When we get back, I'm going to play some audio
of jd Vance. Who is he's breaking journalists right now.
He's breaking them and when we.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Get back, broke them when it came to what's happening
in Aurora. We'll do that next, says Mandy. I'm very
pleased that you and Ross are both talking about that
long Twitter threat from CBZ management. Like you, I'm also
trying to find the truth in this, he said versus
he said battle. It would seem that if they CBZ
can provide documentation, calls, emails, police and or hospital reports

(28:21):
for the events that they've offered on their timeline, that
is some degree of verification. Now, the City of Aurora
has verified that CBZ management reached out to them for help.
They wanted to hire off duty police to be on
the property, and Aurora told them they simply did not
have the staff to do that.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
So that has been confirmed. That's one of the reasons that.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
I that I didn't just blow through this as oh
Slanlord's trying to be the victim or whatever. I do
think that if they are being unfairly painted, then they
deserve the chance to defend themselves. So, as I said,
I'm hoping that I have a call with them very
very soon, like maybe this afternoon. That's my hope to
get the further details, and I will urge them to

(29:03):
release the documentation, release the emails with the city, release
the information that they have not Because.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
I'm trying to make the City of Aurora look bad.
I'm really not.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
I had a conversation via text message with a friend
of mine from Florida and she actually sent me this
Twitter thread this morning and she said, this is so crazy,
and I said, what's crazy is I really like a
lot of the players in this that I think made
really bad decisions. I think Mayor Mike Kaufman trying to
downplay it. Initially I think was the wrong thing to do.

(29:34):
But I totally get why I did it. Aurora has
the reputation as being this crime ridden city, right, I mean,
we all think it. That's the reputation it's had since
I got here, since long before I got here. So
I understand politicians wanting to downplay a situation like this, but.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
In doing so, they've done two things.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
They have number one, created all of this distrust of
what is coming out of the mouths of Aurora officials.
And they've also, in a way emboldened any Venezuelan gang
who wants to move to a different apartment complex and
take it over. This is one of those things where
the choice has to be made. The choice has to

(30:15):
be made whether you're going to stand up as the
mayor of Aurora, and say we have been made aware
of this situation at three apartment complexes, and we are
doing everything in our power to deal with it.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
We will bring law.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Enforcement, we will bring in whatever resources we need to
make sure that this not only doesn't happen at these
three apartment complexes, but it doesn't happen anywhere else in Aurora.
That is the message that says we are strong, we
are aware, and we are taking care of it. And
if that had been the message from the very beginning,
this would be a much different story. And I want

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to point out there's a sheriff in Polk County. No,
his name is Grady Sheriff, Grady Polk. He might be
in Hillsborough, I can't remember. He's in the Tampa region.
He stands up and says, if you come here and
you try to commit a crime, you might get shot.
You might get shot by one of my residents, you
might get shot by a deputy.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
But we're not going to put up with it. And
guess what criminals are like.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
You know what, I'm gonna go to the next county
where chances are I'm not gonna get shot by somebody.
It's as much about posturing as it is saying to
the people of Aurora, we know this is happening, and
it is not going to happen on our.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Watch, and that's what you do. You can't deny the
problem away. I mean, you just can't.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
And it put down Neil Drensky in a position where
she was out there sounding the alarm only to be
told that it was her imagination by the governor, when
in reality she was right, and she had the receipts right.
She wasn't just making stuff up out of whole cloth.
She was helping a person move out of these apartment
complexes because they were in fear for their life. Just terrible, terrible,

(31:53):
terrible management of this entire thing, really bad. Sort of
a sort of a lesson.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Now let me play. Oh dang, and I don't have time.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
When we get back, we're going to talk to a
gentleman who is changing the way farming is done. I
find this fascinating. He's growing food and shipping containers with.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
A fraction of the soil, a fraction of the space,
and a fraction of the water needed.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
So we're going to talk to him on the other
side of this break. Later in the show, We're going
to get into a lot of the political stuff that's
happening right now. Jd Vance continues to just steamroll over
these people on these Sunday shows. I don't even know
why any journalists would want to talk to him. And
if you are, you better have your facts ready because
he does.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
One more comment on this, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
My question to the City of Ari is why when
the issue was homeless individuals were overflowing from Denver, they
had no issues bringing those problems to light with the media,
But when it has to deal with a narrative issue,
they're more than happy.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
To sweep it under the rug. That is a great question,
a really great question.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
So yeah, anyway, we'll be back with Scott iMac right
after this KOA.

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Speaker 5 (33:31):
Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
And last week I saw a story about an organization
that is using shipping containers to grow food and I
think this is like the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
So I asked the founder of farm.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Box Foods, Joseph Kmmick, Is it Camick? Is that how
you say your last name, Joseph Hammick, Yes, to come
on the show to.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Talk about it. Joseph, First of all, have you ever
been to EPCOT in Florida? Have you ever been?

Speaker 10 (33:59):
I have? I am aware of their program they have.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
I was gonna say, because you know, EPCOT actually stands
for Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. That's what Walt Disney
built the park to show what the future would look like.
And a big part of the land area is hydro
product farming, and he really thought that the future of
farming and technology would be these giant warehouses with vertical farming.

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And you got to think he was thinking about this
stuff back in the nineteen fifties. So the fact that
what you're doing now is kind of what Walt Disney
was talking about is kind of cool.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
So tell me about farm Box Foods and what you
guys do first.

Speaker 11 (34:41):
Yeah, absolutely so. Number one, we're a mission based work
profit company. Our mission is to innovate to feed the world.
And as they take a step back and think about
what that means for farm box. We really are focusing
on a few different areas. Number One, people those that
are hungry, think about workforce development.

Speaker 10 (35:01):
We're thinking about education.

Speaker 11 (35:02):
We're thinking about entrepreneurs and how they're able to think
about farming in a different way. And so we've manufactured
three different farms, a hydroponic farm, a gourmet mushroom farm,
and a vertical a hydroponic fodder farm to innovate the
way we grow food. We're not the solution to change
everything in farming, but we're part of the solution and

(35:23):
what's needed today.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
So you guys use shipping containers. Tell me what Let's
start with one aspect. Let's go to the leafy greens. Okay,
so you've got one shipping container that is growing leafy greens.
Described to me what the inside of that shipping container
looks like.

Speaker 10 (35:41):
Absolutely. So there is number one, a seed table and
some tanks to start from.

Speaker 11 (35:46):
The very beginning of the process of from seed. We
grow those seeds and then put them into vertical grow walls.
There's three grow walls inside the container that are movable
back and forth to grow on both sides of those walls.
So we can grow about two and a half acre
is worth of produce annually inside of three and twenty
square feet and do that in about ten gallons of
water a day.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
That's that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I mean that if you don't have any sort of
sense of how regular farming works, the fact that you
can then take two and a half acres, which is
a large space and squish it into one shipping container
in and of itself is remarkable. I mean, that's just
remarkable to me. The second part of this is you
don't have to rely on any kind of favorable weather.

(36:29):
You don't have to worry about rain, you don't have
to worry about not getting a freeze at an inappropriate time.
These can just be set up and they can grow
all year round.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Is that how it works?

Speaker 10 (36:42):
Absolutely?

Speaker 9 (36:42):
So.

Speaker 11 (36:43):
We've got containers in Alaska and Nova Scotia and very
cold climates. We've got containers in Jamaica, Tahiti and Grand
Cayman in very hot and humid areas, and the whole
idea is we wanted to control that climate to give
the plants the best opportunity for growth and quickest growth,
so we can feed as many people as possible.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Who's buying these?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Who are you selling them to what organizations have jumped
on board. You know, who is you doing this already?

Speaker 5 (37:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (37:12):
So one of the examples here in Colorado is a
Common Spirit at the Times Cential Health. They were one
of our first customers in healthcare and really found a
niche in a new way to feed their communities and
accomplish their mission. But we also have a lot of
groups like Island Nations that I mentioned, that opportunity to
create new land on an island that doesn't exist. But

(37:33):
then schools, correctional facilities, grocery store chains. We've got about
eleven different vertical markets today. It's really where's the best
application for it? Back to my earlier comments of who
it's for?

Speaker 4 (37:45):
So, how do you decide what to grow? Obviously you
have some limitations. I don't see you growing corn in
a shipping container. But what have you decided and how
have you gotten to the process of sort of narrowing
down right now in these three different areas.

Speaker 10 (38:01):
Yeah, so let me.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Start on the mushroom side.

Speaker 11 (38:04):
One of the biggest concerns in getting into farming is
there's a big gap of the cost to get in.
With hard one of our containers, it lowers that gap
and the barrier to entry, and the mushroom side is
where most of the profitability lies with container farming, with
growing gourmet mushrooms, you're able to sell much higher margins

(38:24):
than you are leafy greens or fodder for that example.
So in a model where you're trying to be an
entrepreneur or enhance your business or grow a year round
in an area where you can only have a certain season,
the mushroom farmers where to go. But when you're talking
about education, expanding the classroom, understanding business in a different way,
the vertical hydroponic farm has been very successful through different

(38:47):
schools here in Colorado and elsewhere to provide that outdoor
classroom in a new way of education. And then the
fodder farm is really all about livestock. We're selling water
to the Denver Zoo and feeding animals that need it there,
but also controlling your feed supply.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
What is fodder for people who don't farm.

Speaker 11 (39:08):
Fodder, We use barley seed or wheat seed to grow
into a grass. It's a soil of systems, so it's
just kind of like if you think of a piece
of sod, it's just barley seed that creates a mat
like that to then feed to the animal, and all.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Of that is edible, right, I mean you can eat
the animals can eat the growth, they can eat the roots.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
They can eat the whole thing.

Speaker 9 (39:31):
Of it.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
How does that affect the.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Price of feeding livestock, especially if you're feeding livestock to
bring them to market?

Speaker 5 (39:41):
How does that change the equation for a farmer? Is
it more.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Efficient or is it just just having that steady supply
of feed.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
What is the appeal there? It's a bit of mixture there.
I think at the end of the day. For feed,
what you're thinking about is you're.

Speaker 10 (39:59):
Not replacing all the dry feed. It's an accompaniment to it.

Speaker 11 (40:03):
So it's more digestible, the animals hydrate from it, and
so cost wise, we're close to the same traditional feed,
except you control your supply, your rest right and in
those off seasons providing something that's the nutritious to the animals,
even where the feed can be hard to get or shipping.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Do you have restaurants that are setting these up and
getting their leafy greens from this system already?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (40:29):
So one of the groups is Edible Beats. Here in
Colorado they have five different restaurants. It sits right behind
one of the restaurants in an alley downtown and they
grow there to feed direct just a few steps into
that restaurant at Vital Root, but then to the other
restaurants they own.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Do you think that's going to be the wave of
the future as especially you're more high end restaurants that
are focused on farm to table. It always cracks me
up when i see a farm to table restaurant and
I'm thinking, in February, what exactly are you putting on
the plates there? This allows variety where there wouldn't be otherwise, right.

Speaker 10 (41:05):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 11 (41:06):
I think that consumers are starting to question where does
my food come from, and they're requiring more restaurants to
think out of the box and think towards farm to table,
so they have a higher quality product when you come
close to the actual source where you're feeding. As well,
you're also getting to higher nutrient density in the product
and a better flavor profile in the product. So I

(41:27):
think we're going to see a lot of especially high
in restaurants, go towards these gourmet mushrooms and these leafy
green types to the best possible product for their customers.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
So you're asking them to think back inside the box
was what it comes down to.

Speaker 11 (41:41):
Yeah, they're already conscious of where they get their food from.
I think that especially restaurant owners. A lot of times
there are chefs, and chefs want quality and consistency and
deliver a very nice product. But now being able to
put it in five parking spaces virtually anywhere in the
world changes the game for urban farming and what they're

(42:01):
able to accomplish.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
What other food items do you see as being potentially
a good fit for a farm box to maybe say, Okay,
we're going we've got leafy greens, we've got mushrooms, we've
got fodder for the animals. But what's next in terms
of what can be grown in these conditions? You know,
we have a big whiteboard with a bunch of different
ideas and where we would go. One of the current

(42:25):
research projects we're doing right now to bring product to
market is using our vertical hydroponic farm to grow trees.
It's a partnership with Core Electric on how we're able
to bring in nursery and produce those good seedlings.

Speaker 11 (42:37):
To be able to plant burns squire areas. But when
it comes to food, I think one of the natural
things is aquaponics. It's similar to hydroponics. You're able to
do the fish and other items in there that would
be good for a whole, well balanced meal for the community.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
There's a restaurant in Tampa, Florida called Burns Steakhouse and
it's very it's an experience to go to Burns. You
don't just go to dinner there. You go to have
the Burns experience. And one of the things you can
do at Burns is take a kitchen tour. And many
many years ago, when Burns decided they wanted to sell
fish in the restaurant, they were unhappy with any of
the fish they could find in the Tampa market, so

(43:11):
they brought in these giant fish tanks and they literally
have giant fish tanks in the kitchen where they go
in and get your fish right before they make it.
And it's really impressive. Is that kind of what you're
talking about, where you could have a restaurant that feasibly
had six different huge fish tanks and then they had
different varieties in there where they could go out and
just get a fish to make for dinner.

Speaker 11 (43:34):
You know, I would have to say, we'd have to
see what the research is for the best fish inside
of a container.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
But yes, that's the idea.

Speaker 11 (43:40):
Is that again you're taking that urban farming and local
concept to be able to have that right where you're
going to be feeding people.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
So what are the implications for food that is less
less amenable but would be more productive. I think in
solving areas where there's a lot of food insecurity, where
we have desert environments, where we have very hostile environments
for real farming, when you're talking about things that are

(44:09):
grain based or something that provides something that's a little
more filling than leafy greens, is that on the horizon?

Speaker 10 (44:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (44:18):
I think when I think about that, the first thing
that comes to mind is, no matter where the container
is being placed, it has to be culturally relevant whatever
the food is. So that's what we're first thinking about it.
What do the people actually eat today so that if
they're getting something new out of the container, they're not
wasting it. So first step is what's relevant. Then, really,

(44:39):
this is where the mushrooms come in. The mushrooms are
more filling when you're talking about gourmets, there's other nutrients
inside of gourmet mushrooms that are proven into in the
neotropics to be able to be very good for that
whole health of someone in these insecure areas. And we
can produce over four hundred pounds per week out of
our contentle so you can do high yield and get
those food insecure areas things that they all they will

(45:01):
actually eat.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
So what is the cost to buy a farm box?
Drop it either?

Speaker 4 (45:05):
I mean if you just wanted to start a gourmet
mushroom business and you were located in a place that
didn't have a good supplier, what's the upfront cost.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
To get started with one of these boxes?

Speaker 11 (45:18):
Yeah, so chance that let me help you understand exactly
what we do. We don't just sell the container that
we actually help you on the pre construction. We will
work with you and do training on site in your farm.
When it's landed, we work with you ninety days post
deployment to make sure that you have all the questions
and additional training you need from us. So with all

(45:39):
of that, you're getting it landed, you're thinking about your utilities.
You got to get electrical water there, and your foundation
detail and the shipping to site, that whole process. You're
talking about a about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Okay,
so complete the whole project, get it ready to harvest.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Okay, but after that you should be good to go. Correct.

Speaker 11 (46:00):
Yeah, and most of the return on your investment happens
between twenty four and thirty six months.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
That's fantastic to know. I just think this is the
coolest thing.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Joseph, Hats off to you for coming up with a
creative idea to feed people and you know, help restaurants
and chefs provide the freshest food ever and solve a
problem at the same time. I just think this is
a genius and I really appreciate making time.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
For me today. Absolutely, thank you for having us. All right.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
That is Joseph Cammick with a farm box Foods. Joseph,
thank you so much.

Speaker 10 (46:34):
Thank you all right.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
I just think stuff like that is super cool. Like
I just I just want a shipping container. Is that wrong?
I just want one to have. I don't know what
I do with it or where I put it, but
I just want one anyway.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
I just think it's cool that what Walt Disney thought
of so so many years ago when he was creating
Epcot has now come to reality. I just think that's
super cool. Now, let me get back, let me get
back to if you're just joining us. In the last
segment before the end of the last hour, I was
talking about the apartment complexes that had been taken over

(47:14):
by gang members. Well, Jadie Vance was on this week
on ABC with Martha Raddits, and I'm just going to
play this exchange because he is so right here, he
is so incredibly correct here.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Just listen to this exchange. Can I my audio coover? Coouver?
Can I have my audio?

Speaker 10 (47:46):
All right?

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Some people left behind?

Speaker 9 (47:48):
But he's making these statements that the mayor is flat
out disputing.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Well, Martha, you just said the mayor said they were exaggerated, exaggerator.
There's got to be some That means there's got to
be some element of truth here. And of course President
Trump was actually in Aurora, Colorado talking to people on
the ground, and what we're hearing, of course, Martha, is
that people are terrified by what.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Has happened with some of these Venezuelan gangs.

Speaker 9 (48:14):
Cener Evance, I'm going to stop you, because I know
exactly what happens.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
I'm going to stop you.

Speaker 9 (48:19):
The incidents were limited to a handful of Apartment CONFLX
apartment complexes, and the mayor said, our dedicated police officers
have acted on those concerns.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
A handful of problems only, Martha, do you hear yourself?

Speaker 6 (48:36):
Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken
over by Venezuelan gangs. And Donald Trump is the problem
and not Kamala Harris's open border. Americans are so fed
up with what's going on, and they have every right
to be. And I really find this exchange, Martha is
sort of interesting because you seem to be more focused
with nitpicking everything that Donald Trump has said, rather than

(49:00):
knowledging that apartment complexes in the United States of America
are being taken over by violent gangs.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
I worry so much more about that problem than anything
else here.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
We've got to get American communities in a safe space again.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
And unfortunately, when you let people in.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
By the millions, most of whom are unvetted, most of
whom you don't know who they really are, you're going
to have problems like this.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Kamala Harris ninety.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Four executive orders that undid Donald Trump's successful border policies.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
We knew this.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Stuff would happen.

Speaker 6 (49:31):
It's ragged about opening the border, and now we have
the consequences and we're living with it. We can do
so much better, but frankly, we're not going to do
better Martha unless Donald Trump calls this stuff out.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
I'm glad that he did.

Speaker 9 (49:42):
Okay, let's just end that with They did not invade
or take over the city, as Donald Trump said.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Wait a minute, Just by doing that, she absolutely proves
exactly what JD.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Vans just said. Oh, well, they did not take over
the ENTI well.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
They just took over three apartment complexes in the United
States of America. They only took over three apartment It
was limited to three apartment complexes in America. He's absolutely right.
Now listen to how fast she pivots to get away
from this.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
I want to move on too.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
It's the few enartment complexes, no big deal, a few
apartment complexes that the mayor did not seem was invading
the entire city.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
The See, she just did it again, and now she pivots.
She goes right over to I'd like to talk about,
you know, abortion.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Move on to women in abortion doc.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Yeah, and that's where they feel like they I mean,
but he's absolutely right. We now live in a society
where people say, hey, you know what, it was just
a few apartment complexes.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
It was just in Aurora. I mean, Aurora always.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Has these kind of problems. There's just a few apartment complexes.
It's really not that big a deal. He's absolutely right.
The outrage should be why are there Venezuelan gangs take
over anything in an American city. Whether it's Aurora, or
it's Aspen, or it's Nebraska or all in the hall.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
It doesn't matter. Why are they here.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
They're here because the Biden Harris administration let thousands and
thousands and thousands of people completely unvetted, walk across the
southern border. Now, you guys, I have a very good
friend who and I've mentioned her before, her husband is Irish.
As a matter of fact, you guys donated to save

(51:33):
her from her ailing appendix. By the way, she has
never been called by the National Health Service to get
her appendix removed.

Speaker 7 (51:40):
Never.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
They've never reached out ever.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
So if we had not had a private fundraiser for her,
she probably would have died of a necrotic appendix, which
is what it was. Anyway, that aside, she is now
in the process with her husband of trying to get
him his green card, his permanent green card, so he
can live here and be here and travel back and
forth to see his elderly elderly mother in Ireland because
she's old, without getting hassled when.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
He comes back in the country. He has all the
visas and everything.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
He's a legal visitor to the United States, But every
time he went back, they would give him grief like, oh,
what are you doing here on visiting my mom?

Speaker 5 (52:15):
Will you?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (52:15):
So he's trying to get a permanent green card. And
when I tell you, guys, what they have been through
with legal immigration, it is almost comically absurd.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
He's currently in Ireland.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
He can't come back yet because his status hasn't been
decided because.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
All of the paperwork and all of the.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Hoops they've jumped through, and everything they've provided and everything
they've shown, Well, we're gonna just decide whether or not
going to let him come back. By the way, he
has a job, he has money, he can pay his way.
He's been married for twenty years to an American and he.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
Was supposed to be done.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
He was supposed to his final appointment October tw August
twenty third, they moved it. By the way, he has
to go from Ireland to London to the US embassy
to get all this stuff done.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
It's a consular appointment, so we had to then try.
I mean, it is absolutely nuts.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
And I said to her the last time I talked
to her, he should have just walked across the southern border.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
It would have been a hell of a lot easier.
And that, my friends, is the problem.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Chuck and I dropped the queue off at the airport
because she's going to visit her brothers for fall break
and I'm super excited about that. So we dropped her
off and then we were driving from the airport over
to Blackhawk right but we got to the airport to
drop her off at almost the exact same time that

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everybody was leaving the Trump Relly. So obviously it was
a lot of traffic, and it was It wasn't terrible,
it wasn't horrible, but we were trying to avoid some traffic.
So we looked for a creative way, Thank you ways
for getting us around the traffic, to get us over
to seventy a little down so we could go to Blackhawk,
and we drove on roads that I've never driven on

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up there, and y'all, oh my goodness, the roads weren't terrible.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
I mean, I'm not saying that.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
That we're a third world country, but I'm some of
those roads definitely were third world country ish. And so
I saw Mark Hillman's column on page two of Complete
Colorado dot Com. What a great column it is, because
it is so true what's happening in the state of

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Colorado with sea dots current leadership, and the current leadership
is one hundred percent doing the bidding of Jared Polis
and all the green dreamers here who are help bent
on getting us all out of our cars and into
some kind of inefficient mass transportation full of people smoking meth.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
It is about to be winter, you guys.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
So if you've been enjoying any light rail travel as
of Lake get read. The meth heads in the winter
are going to be joining you on the train.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
And I don't even think artid currently has a police chief,
so don't expect their police force to be able to
do anything.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
They don't even have leadership. It's a mess.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
What's happening with public transportation. We've spent billions of dollars
and the exact same percentage of commuters are using public
transportation as were before we spent billions of dollars.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
About four percent.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Of Colorado's are using mass transit, four not forty four
one two three four percent. But instead of trying to
fix the roads that we have so people don't rest them,
like absolutely destroy their alignment as they hit these giant

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pop potholes, Mandy uh.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
All of Colorado roads are trash, says this text.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Are not all of them, Some of them are actually
quite decent still, But Mark Hillman points out, in twenty
twenty one, and I'm just going to read a tiny
bit of this column, the Democrat controlled legislature passed a
five point four billion dollar package of new fees, including
an annual increase in fuel prices and that irritating twenty

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nine cents only Colorado's bay on every Amazon order, supposedly
to boost the transportation budget. Despite that infusion of money,
se DOT, the Colorado Department of Transportation predicts the condition
of every category of state maintained highways will get even
worse over the next seven years. By twenty thirty one,

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just twenty five percent of interstate highways will be in
good condition state highways will be even worse. Why is
this because we are redirecting all of those dollars in
to roadway diets to make room for bike lanes in downtown.
Let's build another terrain up north that no one's gonna

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ride for billions of dollars. Seed Dot's plan, by the way,
is to just keep.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
Resurfacing the busted up.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Concrete roads that we have by slapping down asphalt over
the crumbling roads. Potholes are not going to be fixed.
They'll just get filled with asphalt which will soon begin
to dip and we will have that pothole back again.
Sea Dot is being run in such a way that

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they need to give up their transportation card because they're
allowing these roads. Especially in rural areas outside the metro mass,
transit is not an option. It's inefficient, it would be ineffective.
People cannot give up their cars, especially people who live
on farms or ranchers that not only have cars, they

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have big trucks, and they have trailers that weigh a lot.
They have huge tractors. They have all of these things
and they need to be able to get around. If
you want to know who to blame, thank Governor Jared
Polis and his appointees to the Transportation Commission, whose unwritten
policy says Mark Hillman must be make drivers miserable. They

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bragged to The New York Times that Colorado isn't building
new roads a quote. Paul has signed a law that
required the state to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by ninety
percent within thirty years. Does the state try to figure
out how it would get there? It zeroed in on drivers.
To reduce emissions, Colorado's would have to drive less. And

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that's the goal, that's the endgame. They're just going to
make it so miserable to be in your car that
you're going to beg for somebody to come pick you
up in an inefficient bus full of homeless people smoking.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
That's what they want you.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
And here's the thing that I would just like to say,
if anybody is working for the Department of Transportation, crab
this little snippet of the show and send.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
It up to your boss.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
As soon as Shoshana lou and Governor Jared Polis and
any other Democrat who voted for this giant package of
taxes and fees without our permission, that we're allegedly going
to fix our roads, but haven't. As soon as every
single one of them commits to only using mass transit
to get around, then I will stop my criticisms.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
But they aren't.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Governor Polis gets to be driven around in a really
cool suv that's very inefficient.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
I'm sure Shoshan A.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Lou is not taking mass transit to work. Until I
see photographs of them every day getting on mass transit
to go do their job, they can all shut up
and sit down.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
I mean, come on, people.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Mandy, the current sea DOT administrator, was recommended by Michelle Obama,
explains that let me just say that, let me say
where we got shoshan Alu. You may recognize her last name.
Her last name is Lou, as in former Treasury Secretary
jacklu very well connected work for the Obama administration. So

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Jared Poulis decided to hire his daughter in order to
score some political favor points because Jared Poulis is going
to run for president and Jared Poulis is going to
need people on his side that can fundraise and raise
a lot of money, and Jack Lou is probably one
of those people.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
So there you go. This is why we have ourc
DOT director.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
And she subscribes to the cars are evil and we
must get all Colorado's out of their cars somehow, instance
they won't do it voluntarily. By using the mass trends
that we already have, we're going to have to make
drivings so miserable and unhappy that they are going to
beg to get out of their cars. Used to have
someone from Seat on your show, what happened to this? Well,

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we used to have Shalin Bot when he was the
interim director and then the director of Sea Dot, and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Shalan Bot was amazing.

Speaker 10 (01:01:11):
Still.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
He subscribed to the Green Dream thing like he was
part of that old cabal, but super knowledgeable, always had
an answer to the questions, had a handle on every
single aspect of the roadways in Colorado. If he didn't
know the answer, he immediately got the answer and sent
it back to me.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
He was great. And then shoshan Alou came in.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
We continued the interviews and it was painfully obvious that
she knew nothing, and I tried to give her a
little time to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
Get up to speed, right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
I mean, it's hard you start a new job, you
don't know the state, you've never been here before. But
she never got up to speed, and it became such
a useless endeavor because every question was, Oh, I don't know,
I'm gonna have to get back to you, and no
one ever got back to us.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
No one ever let us know the answers. So the
whole thing just became an exercise and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Futility and it was very frustrating, and I wish I
could do it again, but I don't know if it
would be any better.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Mandy. The roads are awful, especially if you have low
profile tires.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
I have pinch flattened at least four tires over the
last several years due to potholes.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Where do I send the bill? Oh, that would be
nice if you could do that. Yeah, yeah, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
The RTDGM Weekly couldn't decide between two candidates for an
acting chief, so she named them both as co chiefs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
If somebody came to me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
And said, hey, we're going to make you a co
chief with someone else, I would be like, no, thank you.
When you figure out what you want to do, let
me know when that position is available. But co chief, no,
I'm not doing that, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
I'm an over the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Road truck driver and I will drive two hundred miles
out of the route to avoid Colorado roads.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
They are all terrible and that my friends is accurate
with News on the Hour and thirty past on Koa.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Mandy, the Sea Dot mentality is restricted road travel and
made driving horrible due to their lights on Interstate arm
ramps in Colorado's springs and intersection light timings. Mandy just
read an article that said Denver is the eleventh worst
city in the country to drive in. Mandy can't believe
how much debris and junk is along the roads in Colorado.

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Had folks in from out of state and they even
mentioned it without bringing it up. That is something that
has changed dramatically since I've been here. I've been here
a little over ten years now, and when I first
moved here, I used to tell people all the time,
you guys, can't believe how clean it is.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
And now there's just crap everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
And I was wondering because I see the signs, the
signs that are like this stretch of highway is sponsored
by blah blah blah, Where.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Does not money go?

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Who's supposed to be Is it like creamer on Seinfeld
that you're supposed to go and clean up the road yourself,
because I'd like to know, Mandy, I farm the dirt
roads are twice as bad as the paved roads.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Yes, I've been there. I've been there. Let's see here,
got some really dumb comments.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
I'm not gonna read, Mandy try riding a motorcycle over
these roads that from Greg?

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
No, no, no, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
What can we do to abolish these toll lanes that
none of us taxpayers voted for. Yeah, that's not ever
going to go away because they're a money maker and people.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Pay the tolls. And I'm not gonna lie. When I'm driving.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Back from reachut Revolution in Nevada, I'm one of those
people on four to seventy paying the toll. I just
I don't like to sit in traffic, and I don't
have to do it every day. Right Coover you in
a situation where you have you deal with any toll
lanes at all.

Speaker 7 (01:04:59):
Occasionally we go to the sporty Pickle and oh yeah,
easiest to get to toll lane there, but I usually
skip it and just take the back roads.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
I normally, like if on my day to day operations,
you know what I mean, I try to stay up,
but like on Monday afternoon, when I'm coming back from
Regai and Revolution traffic, it's like five o'clock traffic, and
I'm just I'm not doing it. I'm not sitting in
the traffic. And if I had to do it every day,
I wouldn't pay the money. Right, if that was my
everyday commute, I would be just as frustrated. But I'm

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in the toll lane because you can just go nobody's
in your way. The most frustrating part is when you
get somebody in the toll lane that's driving exactly the
speed limit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
I get it, some people drive exactly the speed limit,
but duh, you don't need to do with that express lane.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Mandy OURTD in Denver is beginning to start construction on
Coalfax from Broadway to Yosemite, making bus lanes in the
center of Coalfax, eliminating lanes and parking to make bus
ridership faster and better, not considering what what happened to
Colfax businesses or side streets.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
What a mess.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
I did hear someone from RTD on Ross's show about
that and that particular bus line. The Colfax bus line
is the most utilized bus line in the metro area,
so maybe it makes sense, but this is the problem
and we're seeing it now play out on sixteen Street mall.

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Right during COVID, when everything was shut down, they didn't
do anything on the sixteen Street mall. But now they
have created a situation where businesses are going under because
of the extended construction on the sixteenth Street mall, and businesses.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
On Colfax are already struggling.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Because I have a story today the Walgreens at the
intersection of Colfax in Havana has announced it's shutting down.
This is after the Walmart neighborhood market on that same
corner is also shut down. It's shut down three months ago.
And what's frustrating about that story is that they're saying
something like, uh wait, wait, let me see here, let

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me see if I can find it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
They don't tell the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
They said we are shutting Wait a minute, hang on,
let me find this exact quote.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Because the company cited increased.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Regulatory and reimbursement pressures as the reason for shutting down Wallgreens.
If that were true, then every Walgreens has to face
the same regulatory and reimbursement pressures, right every store. What
they need to say is more stuff is being stolen
than being sold. A Walgreens manager said, we have people

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that get off that bus, stop right in front of
our store, walk in, pillage the place, and then walk
about out out again. By not saying it's theft that
is the problem, stores are giving governments an opportunity to
ignore it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
I don't think they're ignoring it in Denver. This is
a big issue.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
But if we don't do something about the rampant shoplifting
that is happening right now, it's going to just move
to other locations.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Do you think those buses don't go to other stores?
Of course they do. We have to nip it. We
can't just move it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
And I feel like right now we're just moving it,
moving it from you know, point A to point B.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
Absolutely ridiculous, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
I never looked at the state budget, but I wonder
how much money has been diverted from infrastructure to entitlements
and things like that. I don't think they can mingle funds,
but budgets are reduced and raised and things like that,
I'm sure they can play gums games with all the money.
You guys, A government money and a budget is all fungible.
You know, when government says we're going to use this

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tax for this specific thing, there's no way to ensure
that that's what's happening. It's all a lie and most
people just aren't paying attention. When we get back, I
got a bunch of stories I'm gonna get in because
of two thirty.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
We're going to get an update.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
From a caller who called some time ago and he
was really struggling. I don't want to give an update.
I hope you guys heard the initial call, and we're
going to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
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Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Got wait, I want to study the nicety three Mandy Connall.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Keeping sad thing the two minute drill at two. Hey,
we're going too many Morris repidfire stories of the day
that we don't have more time for.

Speaker 7 (01:09:45):
Don't let's call.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
This will take longer than two minutes. Are are you?
Here's Mandy Connall.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
All right, my friends, I got a lot of weird stories.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
In this one, Consumer Report says, join the call to
ban baby now.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
If you don't know what a baby walker is because
you don't have a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
It's those little contraptions that you can put a baby
in and their feet touch the ground and they have
wheels and the babies can kind of go wherever they want. Now,
I never got a baby walker for the queue because
our pediatrician said it could actually stunt her growth and
development when it came to walking. But now I'm really
anti baby walker because apparently thousands and thousands of babies

(01:10:28):
are injured every single year from these baby walkers. And
now Consumer Reports is joining other organizations, including the American
Academy of Pediatrics and asking for a ban on these
baby bouncers.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
That's the thing you know now, And if you have
a baby walker and you have any stairs in your house,
you're probably gonna want to get rid of it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
I'm just saying it too, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
If you ever wanted to know if freedom was good
for an economy, all you have to do is look
at this year's no Bell Prize in Economics. It was
awarded to three economists who have studied why some countries
are rich and others are poor. They have documented that freer,
open societies are much more likely to prosper The work done.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
By three guys, Darren Iq Mooglou, Simon.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Johnson, and James Robinson demonstrated the importance of societal institutions
for a country's prosperity, meaning that if we don't trust
our institutions, it's very hard to have a prosperous economy,
which is very scary if you think about.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
Where we are right now. To drill it too well,
if you were looking forward to having some lab grown
meat anytime soon, the lab grown meat revolution may be over.
Some say that it is going to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Be one of the biggest failures in food history. Business
schools will be presenting lessons on lab grown meat. That
from a food consultant. Now, what's interesting about this. The
lab grown meat industry is now looking for a government bailout.

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
Oh yeah, there's a value of death.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
We're not going to cross as an industry without a
massive infusion of public investment, admitted an executive at one
lab grown meat company. The chief executive of Impossible Foods,
which only creates plant based Airzat's meat products acknowledge that
the political mood has changed for everyone. Food security and

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competitiveness are back on the agenda. The alternative protein's bubble
has burst, So if you want to have your opportunity
to try out some lab grown meat, you're probably going
to want to find it soon rather than later. What's interesting, So,
in reality, the economics never worked out for these lab

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grown meat processes. The process requires pharmaceutical industry level lab conditions,
very expensive nutrients, which amount to about two thirds of
the cost specialized.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
Labor, long time scales.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Optimistically, producers would be doing well to hit sixty three
dollars per kilo wholesale as a break even price that
is not remotely competitive with.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
What we already have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Hey, remember that story that I shared the other day
about a University of Kansas instructor who said that men
who don't vote for Kamala should be lined up and shot.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Well, I want to say well done. KU KU.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Provost and executive Vice Chancellor Barbara Bickenmeier said in his
statement Friday that Philip Locock has left the university, without
saying whether the move was voluntary or forced. She said,
we are working to identify a new instructor to assume
responsibility for his classes, and we are working with the
students impacted by this change. The instructors apologized to me

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and other university leaders. Now that is good news for
those of us who are sick of sending children to
college only to have them just indoctrinated by professors who
believe things that are completely anathma to us and other people.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
So I'm okay with this.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
I never want to say someone should lose their job,
but if you've taken the job that you've been given
and you have violated the trust that's given you for
that job, then really I am okay with you being fired.
Now I have a long well hang on me to that.
And finally, I have a long column from a substack

(01:14:32):
that I follow called the Journal of Free Black Thought,
and it's a great substack, but this one is really
interesting because they dig into the progressive myth of racist
police shootings. What it turns out is that the racist
police shootings. When you dig down into overall statistics of
how many people are killed by police, it is astounding

(01:14:54):
to find out that black people are less likely to
be shot by police than white people.

Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
In the grand scheme of things. But they don't stop there.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
They then continue to break down the numbers to explain
why there are so many interactions with police officers that
end up with black people being killed. And the reality
is this, black people are committing more of the crime.
Hate to say it, maybe not more in the majority sense,
but proportionally for their size of the population males. Wait,

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hang on, let me find this one statistic I want
to share with you. Blacks comprise about thirteen percent of
the US population, but twenty seven percent of police shooting victims. However,
blacks also comprise about forty percent of murderers in the
US and forty three percent of cop killers. Therefore, just

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as the case of the gender disparity, because they point
out that a vast majority of the people killed by
police in any interaction are male.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
So you could argue using that statistic that the cops
are also sexists.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
But the reality is is that men are more likely
to use violence against police officers. So it's possible that
racism plays a role, but it's just as possible that
sexism plays a role.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
But the statistics give us no reason to assume racism
or sexism. They've got experiments to.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
Allow police officers to react in simulated situations, and in
those simulated situations, the police officers are more likely to
shoot a white person than they are to shoot a
black person. And they suppose in this article that perhaps
is because of all the media attention that has had
when cops shoot and a black person, especially an unarmed

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black person. By the way, the numbers of how many
unarmed Black Americans are killed by police are so small,
and yet liberals think at a much higher rate that
it's over a thousand people per year, and that is not.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
Even remotely close. I mean not even remotely close the
actual numbers. I'm gonna see if I can find them,
very very quickly, show that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Half of liberal respondents estimated that one thousand unarmed black
men are killed per year in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
The correct figure was thirty six.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
The total number of Blacks killed by police in that
year was two hundred and eighty six, of whom just
thirty six were unarmed, thirty two men and four women.
In the same year, police killed fifty four unarmed white
people forty six men and eight women. You should read
the whole thing. It's very very good. We will be
back with more of this right after this break. You know,

(01:17:49):
if you've listened to the show for any length of time,
how I feel about daylight saving time. It's not that
I hate daylight saving time. It's that I despise forward
and fall back for those of us who don't sleep well,
for those of us who have sleep issues. This I
cannot make people who just lay down and fall asleep naturally.

(01:18:13):
And you know what, if you're one of those people,
part of me hates you. I don't mean to to
seem mean about it, but as someone who's never been
that person to lie down and go to sleep, I
just not had that experience in my lifetime. It is
really hard, and these time changes are terrible and they
mess me up, and I get sick every year and
spring forward.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
It's just awful.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
And I am with so many other people and say
enough is enough. So thanks to our friends at Fox
thirty one for showing this story. There's actually in turn
my computer now. I'm sorry about that. You can also
see they have a little shirt. Here's a look at
some of the latest sunrise in earliest sunset times would

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vary across some of the nation's largest cities. If we
were stay on daylight saving time year round. Now, of
course they don't have Denver here. But are you okay
in Chicago with the sun going down at four nineteen pm?
So that would be if we stayed on standard time

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in the summer Chicago, Or excuse me, if they stayed
on daylight saving time, that would still be only five
nineteen pm. Now here's the kicker, you guys. There's not
any more daylight right. We're not somehow extending the amount
of hours we have. We're just simply leaving them where
they're supposed to be. And at this stage in the game,
I don't care if we stay on daylight saving time.

(01:19:45):
I don't care if we stay on standard time. Just
pick one, because this nonsense of going back and forth
has just worn out its welcome. Now, we did lock
the clock back in nineteen seventy three. They shifted to
permanent daylight saving time to combat a national energy crisis,
which is such a fallacy in our new twenty four

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to seven society. It was initially well received, but quickly
drew complaints from parents who were sending their children off
to school in the dark. Guess what, you, guys, where
I live, the buses pick up high school students at
six thirty in the morning, seven o'clock it's the latest, so.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
They're already going to school in the dark. Ah, everybody's
got an issue, but I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
It's been proven that the Monday after daylight saving time
spring forward, there are more heart attacks statistically, more car
accidents statistically, more people screwing up at work statistically.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
Okay, I made up that last statistic, but I bet
it's true.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
We just have to pick one and stop pretending that
somehow we're getting more daylight by doing it one way
or the other.

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
That is not happening.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
I love the old and I don't know if this
is truly said by a Native American at some point,
but you know, only allegedly a Native American said only
the white man thinks that he can make a blanket
longer by cutting some off the bottom and sewing it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
Back on the top.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
It's like, yeah, the blanket didn't get any longer. The
day's not getting any longer. I wonder what you guys
would want to do if you have to choose daylight
saving time or standard time, which would you want to do?
And you can text me at five sixty six nine Oh,
and yes, I do have my voting guidelines out. The
Voting Voter's Guide is linked on the blog today. But

(01:21:37):
you guys, if you just google Mandy Connall Voter Guide
twenty twenty four, it will come up.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
Okay, so that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
You have to do.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Go to the Google Mandy Connall Voter Guide twenty twenty four.
It will pop up right away. Okay, it's on my
KOA page. Hard to believe you enjoy world travel with
all the time zones you need to cross. I will
tell you that as I get older, it gets hard
and harder and harder. And I am a little bit
concerned about our trip to Japan next year, which, by

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the way, you can still go on. We have a
few slots available Mandyconnell trip dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
But it's so worth it to me. It's so worth it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Travel feeds my soul in a way that even good
sleep cannot. Mandy just changed the freaking school schedule. It's
not rocket surgery. You are correct, Mandy. I think you
should move to Arizona because you're unable to adjust your
clock by one hour or twice here.

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
I've thought about it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Oh, we were actually about to buy a house in
Indiana because when we were living in Louisville, Kentucky, I
didn't want to live in the district that was run
by Representative John Yarmouth. So I was looking to move
across the river to Indiana because Louisville's right on the
Ohio River and on the other side of the river
is Indiana. And at the time, they didn't observe daylight
saving time, and I was like, heck, yeah, sign me

(01:22:54):
up going over there.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
But then they caved and they started doing it too
daylight savings, says this person.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
I work landscape, and extra time helps to get work done. Now,
let me ask you, landscaper, wouldn't you just start earlier
in the day and be done earlier in the day.

Speaker 5 (01:23:16):
I mean, I'm not trying to bust your chops. I'm
just saying there are ways to work around this. When
we get back, I have an update on a listener
i've never met. He's coming in the studio. He called
me two years ago, and I'm going to share the progress.
And I got to tell you I got this email
a couple days ago, and I walked on air for
a couple of days. This to me is what radio

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is all about We'll do that next.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
I want to start my next interview by reading an
email because I got this email last week and I
just want to share it with you. The subject line
you helped save my life. My name is William Farrow Bill.
I called you on March twenty third, twenty twenty two.

Speaker 5 (01:23:56):
Live on the air.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
I was an alcoholic and homeless living in my and
I had no hope for a future as far as
I could see. The discussion you were having was about
addiction and homelessness and what the answer to the problem was.
I briefly explained how I was homeless, struggling with my
own addiction, was living in my truck. You told me
about a woman you had interviewed the previous year in
the organization she was in charge of, called The Other

(01:24:19):
Side Academy.

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
Her name is Lola Strong.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
I went to that program and you did an interview
with me on the air while I was waiting to
be accepted. You said you'd like to do an interview
when I completed the program. I'm currently still here and
I'm thriving.

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
My graduation date.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Is fast approaching, and I was reaching out to you
in the hopes that you still wanted to do an
interview with myself and the managing director, Lola. I would
like to share my struggles with addiction and homelessness, but
more importantly, how the Other Side Academy has saved my
life and people just like me. This program is one
of the hardest things that I've ever done in my life.
It's like nothing else in this world. Lola Strong is

(01:24:55):
an amazing woman. She saw hope and potential in a
fifty three year old man when I I thought there
was no hope for me, only suicide. My plans are
to stay here and become a staff member once I graduate,
which means I am choosing to stay longer to achieve
that goal.

Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
I'm giving you her number.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
I'm not able to have a cell phone yet, but
this is my email account and I just want to
thank you because I would not be here, breathing and
thriving with a positive future ahead of me if it
weren't for that fateful phone call and your suggestion of
the Other Side Academy and joining me now in the studio,
Bill and Lola Strong from the Other Side Academy. Bill, dude,

(01:25:34):
you got me. I cried when I read this email.
I'm gonna cry now, because so often I sit here
and I do the show, and every once in a
while I get a call from someone who's just in
a bad way. It could be the situation where their
life is just not doing well, and I always try
to give them a way to move forward, and then

(01:25:55):
they go away, and I don't know what happened, and
I don't know if they move forward, and I don't
know if they got.

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
Their life to go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
I don't know if they're dead, to be perfectly honest,
and I told you and Lula outside, I was talking
about step Denver and the Other Side Academy because I
think both programs are just doing God's work and deserve
our support and our.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
Our appreciation. And I thought about you. I thought about
the guy that called me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
I couldn't remember your name, and I said, that guy
that called me, I wonder if everything is okay. And
then I was going to call the Other Side Academy,
but I'm like, they can't tell me anything. That's like
a hip of thing. So I was just kind of wondering.
So when I got this email, it made me so happy,
first of all that I was able to push you
in a direction, But second of all you.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
Took it, you did it? Tell me about that day
and what made you call this show?

Speaker 10 (01:26:43):
Oh god, it was cold. I remember the day it was.

Speaker 8 (01:26:47):
It was cold, it was snowing, and I had just
gotten to a point where I didn't see anything. I
didn't see any future. I was you know, we always
hear rock bottom, but I was at rock bottom. I mean,
it was the same routine for me every day. I
was slowly I came to realize that I was slowly
killing myself. I'd get up, i'd go to work, and

(01:27:08):
I drink. You know, I was living in my truck.
There'd be days where I didn't have money to put
gas in it, and it was cold, so I would
drink myself to sleep, sometimes wish and I would just not.
I just freeze to death, you know, dreading waking up
the next morning and starting all over again, you know.
And I just got to the points where I knew
I needed help. And I did listen to your show,

(01:27:30):
and I would remember you interviewing Lola. I couldn't remember that.
I think I was calling the Dark Side Academy, you know.
And I remembered, and I remember you telling me you
gave me the number, and you told me you better call,
and I called Lola that night. I was actually pretty
intoxicated the day that I called. And I called Lola

(01:27:54):
that night, actually right when I got off the air
with you, and she gave me a brief interview, basically
told me to sober up coming the next day. And
I don't know, I think I called her a dozen
times that night. She finally, you know, let me know,
go to sleep, just keep it off. And that's what
I did, you know. And the next morning I got
up because I had told my daughter what I was

(01:28:16):
going to do, and she actually called me and woke
me up and said, good Dad, are you still going
to that place?

Speaker 10 (01:28:22):
And I said, I started.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
Handing an eye.

Speaker 8 (01:28:24):
She's like, no, you're going to do it, Dad. You
promised me so, so one of the few promises I
ever kept.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
So tell me about the program and how I mean,
kind of walk me through your own experience.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
You check in. I'm imagining that you were probably detoxing.

Speaker 8 (01:28:40):
Yeah, I mean for me, I stayed there eight months
and left and had to restart all over again.

Speaker 10 (01:28:48):
So I've been there.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
Let me ask a question that's not super uncommon. No,
it's not that they are bumps in the road to recovery.
So I want to be clear that that's not a
crazy thing to have happened, but for somebody to stay
that long and leave most of the time, it's earlier.
And I just I couldn't get up my own way.

Speaker 10 (01:29:07):
It was my ego.

Speaker 8 (01:29:08):
I thought I had everything figured out, and I didn't,
you know. And she kept telling me. She told me
that morning. When I decided, I told her I'm done,
I'm leaving. She told me exactly what was going to happen.
And I didn't listen. And as soon as I left,
everything that she started telling me was going to happen happen.
And I remember I called her at four or five
o'clock in the morning. I was getting ready to make

(01:29:30):
a very very bad decision, potentially want to put me
in prison for the rest of my life. And I
told her, Lola, I need to come home, you know,
And she said, come home.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
So what are the what are the sort of things
that you've sorted out or you've worked through as a
part of this program because you were Alcoholism did not
start because you picked up a beer.

Speaker 5 (01:29:51):
There's all kinds of other stuff going on. And that
led you down that path.

Speaker 8 (01:29:54):
I would say for me, it was probably owning some
of the stuff that I had done throughout my life.

Speaker 10 (01:30:01):
You know, there's very violent pass with me.

Speaker 8 (01:30:06):
Walking out of two marriages, you know, with kids, because
I wanted what I wanted, not man enough to face
that kind of stuff and being at the other side
of cat and not only that, but letting go of
some stuff that wasn't mine to carry, right you know
in my past that I've carried that's really not mine,
you know, that belongs to other people. And in doing that,

(01:30:27):
it's you know, it's I'm I'm held accountable for the
things that I've done, you know, and other people in
my life are held accountable for the things that they've done.

Speaker 10 (01:30:36):
And for me, it's it's finding some peace.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
It's going to be a little I mean, you have
to feel a little lighter, especially when you offload the
things that are not your responsibility, and that allows you
to really take accountability for the stuff that you do.

Speaker 10 (01:30:49):
Own, right, absolutely, absolutely, And Lola was there.

Speaker 8 (01:30:53):
I Mean sometimes some of the stuff that I needed
to be held accountable for I didn't want and I
think that was part of the reason why I left,
because I knew it was coming. It was coming, you know,
and I I didn't I didn't want to face it,
you know. And being out there and realizing that what
she told me was correct, you know, and not being
gone even ten hours the decision that I was confronted

(01:31:15):
with to make, and I'm just like, I can't do this.

Speaker 10 (01:31:17):
I'm not going to throw in my life away.

Speaker 8 (01:31:18):
They were right everything that I'd been taught and told,
because sometimes you're told some stuff that you really don't
want to hear in a way that you don't want
to hear it, but you need to hear.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
It right, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:31:30):
And I mean, I know that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
And I've always thought this, and I've been really lucky
in my life that I've never struggled with addiction myself personally.
It's not that I was not, you know, drinking too
much at certain times in my life or something like
that that I've never had to deal with that addiction component.
But it seems to me that the people that I
have known and loved who have been addicts of various sorts,

(01:31:54):
they were all on the run mentally from something, and
so they used drugs or alco to tamp down the
kind of things that you're talking about now, that were
so they felt so overwhelming to even even just manage it,
to even just deal with it on any level, that
they use drugs or alcohol to escape, right, And so

(01:32:16):
to hear you say this and admit that you know,
I tell my daughter all the time. My daughter's fifteen,
and I didn't learn this until I was like five
years ago. When I was fifty, someone said it to me,
and it resonates with me so strongly. Happiness is on
the other side of a difficult conversation, right, And that
could be with yourself, that could be with someone that
you're struggling with.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
That could be your boss, that could be your spouse.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
But if you can have that difficult conversation on the
other side of it, the lightness that you feel, the
weight that gets lifted off of you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
And it sounds like that's a little bit that of
what went on.

Speaker 8 (01:32:50):
My daughter came to visit a while back, and even
she said the phone call that we had after she left,
She's like, I can't you're different.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
How has your familial relationships, how have they changed?

Speaker 10 (01:33:03):
My daughter?

Speaker 8 (01:33:04):
It's getting better, my son, there's still we're still struggling.
He still hasn't, you know, reached out to call her anything.
But you know that's in his court. I have to
take it on their terms now, not on mine. You know,
my daughter understands she's actually she was. There was some
trepidation there, but when she came to our campus and

(01:33:25):
actually saw, you know, I'm living in a house, it's
not a campus, it's a home, right, this is my family.
And she realized that she sees that I'm I'm happy.
I'm choosing to stay where I'm at, and I'm happy.
I love what I'm doing. I love the interactions that
I have with the staff, the other students, you know.
And she actually she told me this the other night.

(01:33:47):
She was, Dad, you're at peace, and she goes, I'm
so happy for you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
Forgiveness may take a while for your son, but the
only thing you can do is keep doing the right thing,
and hopefully your son will be able to find it
in his heart.

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
He may have a little view in there that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
Says, I don't want to deal with the hard stuff,
but I want to talk to Lola for a moment
because I want people to understand what makes the other
side academy different. I always recommend step Denver, but they
don't accept women, so any woman that has crossed my path,
I'm always recommending you tell people about the Other Side Academy.

Speaker 12 (01:34:18):
Overall, sure, thank you, Mandy. You know the Other Side
Academy is not a program. I want to start with
saying the Other Side Academy is a home, it's a family,
it's a community. What makes us different than other places
is a couple of things. We're two and a half
year commitment, so it's you commit to two and a
half years, so the length of the program really adds

(01:34:39):
to the success rate.

Speaker 13 (01:34:41):
Number two is there's no doctors and no therapists.

Speaker 12 (01:34:44):
Everybody that works at the Other Side Academy has lived experience.

Speaker 13 (01:34:48):
So when I talk to Bill on the phone, it
took me back. I remember what it was like.

Speaker 12 (01:34:52):
We're all able to relate to each other because we
know what it's like to be at rock bottom. And
the third thing is that we don't accept any government funding.
It doesn't cost anything to come to the Other Side Academy.
It is absolutely free. If you don't have any Medicaid,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 13 (01:35:07):
It's a free program.

Speaker 12 (01:35:08):
It's available to men and women that are absolutely ready
to do something.

Speaker 13 (01:35:12):
Different.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
What do the and I love the fact you call
them students, not not you know, like not recovery, patience
or anything. They're students. What are some of the things
that you guys employ over that two and a half
years to help people overcome these addictions.

Speaker 12 (01:35:28):
So, as Bill was talking about, there were a couple
of things that he needed to really focus on to
get to where he is today, because you're right, it's
not the drugs and it's not the alcohol. It's all
of the stuff that we do that leads us to seeking.

Speaker 13 (01:35:40):
Relief through that.

Speaker 12 (01:35:41):
So we have a really strong emphasis on the underlying
issues and the behaviors, the decision making, the stories we
tell ourselves. And you can't really do that in the
thirty thirty day program. I really need, you know, a
good significant amount of time thirty months to really dig
deep and uncover and unpack all of those things. And
you want to be able to build relationships with people

(01:36:04):
that are going to help you do that. But in
addition to all of that, we also have a strong
emphasis on vocational training.

Speaker 13 (01:36:11):
We want to teach our students how.

Speaker 12 (01:36:12):
To work, how to develop a work ethic, to realize
that if you don't work you don't need not to
be reliant on other people, but to be self reliant,
and we do that through our moving company. We own
and operate a moving company that's five star rated moving
company called The Other Side Movers, and our students will
work there.

Speaker 13 (01:36:31):
We also have a furniture boutique.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
I love the whole furniture boutique concept because this actually
came about because of the moving company.

Speaker 13 (01:36:39):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (01:36:39):
You know, we were moving people like you, Mandy, and
you had a perfectly wonderful table that you didn't want anymore,
and that was beautiful, lightly used, so you would.

Speaker 13 (01:36:47):
Donate it to us.

Speaker 12 (01:36:48):
And we were taking in all these phenomenal donations and
having your sales every.

Speaker 13 (01:36:52):
Few months, and we were making money, and so we said,
this is a no brainer.

Speaker 12 (01:36:56):
We have to open a brick and mortar and we
have to have a furniture boutique so people could come
in and learn about the Other Side Academy, make purchases,
and then that revenue goes back to cover the operational expenses,
so people like Bill could come to the Other Side.

Speaker 13 (01:37:11):
Academy free of charge. Where is the furniture store, Thank
you for asking.

Speaker 12 (01:37:15):
The furniture store is located in the Highlands.

Speaker 13 (01:37:17):
It's not thirty one twenty.

Speaker 12 (01:37:19):
Five Federal Boulevard, Okay, so that's about Federalist Spear. It
used to be an old dollar tree, real rundown, kind
of like the people that come to us, right, and
we renovated it and made it this beautiful store and
this experience. When you come in you get to deal
with people like Bill and learn about the Other Side
Academy and find some real gems there that you can

(01:37:41):
take home.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
And so let's start before we run out of time,
because we're almost out of time here. Do you want
to talk about the fundraiser that you're having.

Speaker 13 (01:37:47):
I would love to.

Speaker 12 (01:37:48):
I know that everybody has something that they like to
focus on during the holiday time. And if you have
an organization that you support, by all means support that organization.
But if you don't, the Other Side Academy is doing
a fundraiser called the Angel Tree. The Angel Tree is
designed to raise some money so that we can have
presence under the tree for all of our students that

(01:38:09):
are working so hard to change their lives. Some of
them have never had any wonderful Christmas memories. So if
you're interested in taking part of the Angel Tree and
helping make this Christmas memorable for all of our students.

Speaker 13 (01:38:23):
Please reach out to me.

Speaker 12 (01:38:24):
It's Lola La at the Other Side Academy dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
I'm gonna put that on my social media and I'm
gonna beginning an angel as well.

Speaker 13 (01:38:36):
Wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:38:36):
I love an angel tree because I love providing fund stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Bill.

Speaker 5 (01:38:39):
I am just, I am overjoyed.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
I am filled with gratitude that you let me know
and filled with gratitude that I was able to make
a connection.

Speaker 5 (01:38:50):
I am one of those people.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
I think God works through people all the time, and
in this instance, God worked through me for you, and
I am so happy that you are thriving and doing
so well.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
And Lola, thank you for doing what you do.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
I know that this is such a passion project for
you personally, but without people like the Other Side Academy
in step Denver, I mean, these organizations are so worthy
of your support. So if you can't do anything else,
at least do an angel and Bill, I'm excited when
when you get on the staff. I mean, you know,
you gotta let me know, You got to let me
know how that works out.

Speaker 5 (01:39:25):
But I am I am just. I can't express how much.

Speaker 10 (01:39:30):
It means to me.

Speaker 8 (01:39:30):
I just want to tell you personally, thank you because
you had you had a large part in this.

Speaker 10 (01:39:34):
You directed me.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
I was just working on God's behalf.

Speaker 12 (01:39:37):
That's all I want to I want to also double that,
thank you so much for remembering who we are in
cases like this when somebody says I need help, and
having that file somewhere you know within you that you
can say, listen, I get it, please call this place.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Well, I've been very lucky in my life that I
the people that I love who have struggled with addiction,
except one who did not make it, have all been
able to over come those addictions with programs either like
this or programs that are similar and seeing them on
the other side. Yeah, you want that for everyone, right,
you want you want everyone to be able to come out.

Speaker 5 (01:40:12):
Of the fog. Yeah, and you want everyone. I want
everyone to succeed.

Speaker 13 (01:40:15):
Yeah, it's a lot. People are not hopeless.

Speaker 12 (01:40:17):
If you're listening and you are struggling, please know that
you are not hopeless.

Speaker 13 (01:40:22):
There is hope. You just have to take a step
and reach out for help.

Speaker 12 (01:40:25):
If you reach out for help, people are going to
embrace you, and they're gonna help you get to where
you need to be, because there's so much more to
life than just thinking that you're hopeless and you can't
get better, because.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
You can amen to that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
That is lilas Strong and Bill Burrows may successful student
at the other side academy, and I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
Wait to see you flourish and the rest of your life.

Speaker 10 (01:40:45):
Bill, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
Okay, now we're gonna play our dumb little game. You
don't you guys don't have to play. Just hang out
for a second because I want to walk you out.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
After the show. But now it's time for the most
exciting segment on the radio of It's Gone.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Love.

Speaker 5 (01:41:01):
What are you doing the downbeat in the world. Rob
Dausin is in the shortest chair in the studio right now.
You look like a five year old playing the game?

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
What is our dad joke of the day, please, Coober.

Speaker 7 (01:41:13):
Our dad joke of the day is what do you
call a fake noodle?

Speaker 5 (01:41:17):
I don't know?

Speaker 10 (01:41:18):
An impasta? Oh impasta?

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
I like that one.

Speaker 6 (01:41:22):
I like that one.

Speaker 5 (01:41:22):
Why, okay?

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
What's our word of the day? Taciturn taciturn. Yes, it
means like very serious or kind of stern.

Speaker 10 (01:41:33):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
I think I thought it was wishy washy. You can't
wish you wash you. Oh, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 7 (01:41:38):
Someone who tends to be quieter, who tends to speak
in frequently.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
I'm ish, Yeah, I'm ish taciturn ish.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
Today's trivia question.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
The bottle nose dolphin shuts down only half its brain
and closes one eye while sleeping.

Speaker 5 (01:41:54):
Why I'm gonna get so easy? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
Breathing Oh, yeah, are used to monitor for predators and obstacles,
and to keep track of when the dolphin needs to
surface for air.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
Okay, that seems very complicated. Yeah, okay, did a good
job on that's your your question? Yes, exactly? What is
our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 7 (01:42:13):
A right? Our Jeopardy category? You guys will do well
with this. One's sports rookies sports why why?

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (01:42:22):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:42:23):
Question one, last name of the twenty twenty one NBA
rookie the year Lamello.

Speaker 5 (01:42:28):
Maybe yeah, I have no idea, God nothing, Yes, I
got nothing? Minus one to one. Go ahead, Rob Dawson,
all right.

Speaker 7 (01:42:37):
Question number two from Tony, Dorset in nineteen seventy seven
to Eric Dickerson in nineteen eighty three. Seven straight winners
of the PFWA NFL Rookie.

Speaker 5 (01:42:47):
Of the Year award played this position. Andy, what is
running back? Yes, all right, back on a zero. There
we go, all right.

Speaker 10 (01:42:55):
Question three.

Speaker 7 (01:42:56):
Julie Inkster, Patty Sheen, and Nancy Lopez are former winner.

Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
Have this tour's Rookie of the Year with Fanny what
is the LPGA?

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
Yes, okay, give me Nancy Lopez, I know what sport
I'm talking about, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
Question four's we're tied now.

Speaker 7 (01:43:10):
This twenty eighteen AL Rookie of the Year ended the
twenty twenty three World Baseball Classic by striking out another
former winner, Mike Trout.

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
Gosh, I'll give you, Henny he's playing today. That doesn't
help me at all. It doesn't he me at least,
at least at all. I got nothing. I'm fine. I'm
sitting on my voice. I'm sitting on a point.

Speaker 10 (01:43:32):
To Tony, that was wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
I couldn't remember, right, Starry, Yeah, all right?

Speaker 10 (01:43:38):
Well, last question was we're tired here.

Speaker 7 (01:43:40):
In nineteen fifty nine, long before he voiced The King
in cars, this racing legend was NASCAR's Rookie.

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
Year Fanny is Richard Petty, Yes on a Richard Petty question.
And I had no idea if that was right. I
was just going out swinging.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
I was going to say somebody else. Yeah, all right,
we're gonna make room. K Way Sports com up.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
Next.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
Are they at the Sporty Pickle today?

Speaker 10 (01:44:02):
They are at the Sporty.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
They're at the Sporty Pickles. So we'll turn this over
to the guys. We will be back tomorrow with a
full show. Keep it right here on KOA