10-14-25 FULL SHOW - The Real Cost Of Education

The real cost of education is much higher than you think, Boulder wants to be like Denver and destroy local business, and vote for these Denver School Board members.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Tuesday feels like Friday to
me edition of the show.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I'm your host for the next three hours. Mandy Connell
and joining me.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Wearing a festive red sweatshirt today because of his sweatshirt season. Finally,
that is the fallready Anthony Rodriguez, we call him a rod.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
That was just because today is actually Tuesday, but it
feels like Friday. I'm gonna be off for the rest
of the week, going to see my kids and my grandkids.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
And I don't feel bad about that at all.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
That being said, you're gonna get the wonderful Jimmy Sangenburger
who always does a fantastic job.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Guys, I'm gonna be honest, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
In prior markets, there have been people that were asked
to fill in for me that were an absolute nightmare
for me because when I got back, my email box
was full of people complaining about the emails. And when
I get back, you know what I get about Jimmy
Sagenberger all this stuff. Yes, there is a guy who
complains that there's too much harmonica in Jimmy's Yeah, so

(01:34):
maybe just a slightly smaller amount of harmonica playing tomorrow, Anthony,
and that would eliminate the one email that I have
to deal with.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
So stop.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh boy, yes, no, I am. I got a lot
of stuff to talk about. We got a guest coming
up at one. Let's jump in you guys. Today I
was doing the blog Nancy's gonna hate this blog, Anthony. Okay,
it's so long because I kept posting it and then
I was like, oh.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh, one more story. I gotta add one more story.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So if you read it in the first incarnation, there's
more stuff on there that you might want to see.
Let's go to the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. That's
mandy'sblog dot com. You can also go to Randy Cromwell
dot com.

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Look for the.

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Latest postsection, and in that section, look for the headline
that says ten fifteen to twenty five blog the Real
Cost of Education. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within.

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I think going with someone who office, half American, all
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That's going to press.

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Plant today on the blog common Sense broke down school
funding vote for these people for Denver public schools. Congress
wants the Supreme Court to shut down Boulders stupid climate case.
Boulder's minimum wage hikes are worse than Denver's. If he's
gonna be this petty during the campaign, Colorado State Patrol
reminds you to zipper merge. JP Morgan invests where the

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US government should not. Mayor Mike's BO supporters are facing
ethics charges. Fraud is fraud, and Latitia James committed it.
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of watching families be reunited. Let's talk about Trump in
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If you're making swastika displays, you're just stupid. George Stephanopolos
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heaving bound coinn Miners has an old person hobby. Why
Broncos ownership is talking retractable roof the best story about
Alex Singleton's sister. Those are the headlines on the blog
at Mandy's blog dot.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Com tech to a Winner.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yes, Nancy, I was booking through those headlines just so
I could get that little that little nod of approval
from San fran Nan means the world to me, Nancy.
When you approve of the blog today at one o'clock,
Kelly Broth from the Common Sense Institute is joining me.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
You know, there's a lot of talk about.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Funding and education, and I think most of us don't
understand two things. Number one, how schools are funded in Colorado.
And we'll get into that a little bit, but that's
not what this story is about. No, It's about how
much per student we're actually spending and where that money

(04:38):
actually goes. Because when I think of we're spending for schools,
I'm thinking of teachers, I'm thinking of reading support, math support.
I'm thinking about people who are actually working with kids
to improve their student achievement outcomes. But that is not
at all with the Common Sense Institute found in their
recent study.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
And I am not gonna lie hi my eyebrow.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I consider myself pretty educated about this stuff. I
think I have a pretty good grasp of the things
that happen, and I totally know how the school districts
are funded.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'll be more than happy to share that with you
as well.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
But the reality is is that we spend a ton
of money per student in the grand scheme of things,
ton of money, but it's not making its way into
the classroom. And that's why I keep telling you guys,
school board funding matters. And I have a new metric
to ask your school board candidates. Do you agree that

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administrations have grown too large? That question yes or no?
Do you think administrations have grown too large? Because if
they don't say yes, they are not getting my vote.
Now I'm I'm down here in Douglas County, and when
they're the last mill levy override was on the ballot,
I spent a lot of time learning about how our

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budget is actually spent. And one of the things I
am the most please with in Douglas County is that
we run a very lean operation when it comes to
administrators per student compared to some of our adjoining districts.
We are getting a screaming good bargain. But we're gonna
talk to Kelly Bruff about all of this study from

(06:17):
the Common Sense Institute, And I'm just gonna say this, Guys,
if you hear me talk about these studies and you're like, eh,
you know, I kind of like to do more, but
I don't want to go read a big, boring study.
The Common Sense Institute does a phenomenal job in giving
you like a three page summary with graphs, so it's
not even three pages of writing. They really make their

(06:40):
work accessible. And I haven't always been able to say
that about some of the policy Won't Think tanks that
I've had on the show. But Common Sense Institute really
lives up to their names. So if you ever hear
something when I'm talking about one of their studies, go
look at it. It is not going to take up
all day. It's not written in scientific jargon that you
can't understand, right. They just do a really nice job

(07:02):
with that. And I just wanted to point that out
because I think some people are like.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Eh, a study, how boring they make it as.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Interesting as an incredibly important study on school spending can be.
So Kelly's gonna join me at one to discuss that
I have run into a bit of a situation with
my grandiose plan to do a voter guide for the
school board races. Holy crap, you guys, are so many
school districts. That's number one. I don't know where the

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boundaries of those districts begin and end, and getting good
information about the candidates running in those districts is sometimes
completely impossible, which I find remarkable because they're asking you
for their votes, right, no matter what district you're in,
they should be everywhere. I should be able to easily
find their information. But you'd be shocked to find out

(07:54):
how many of these people are like hidden in plain sight,
or they get really cute curl address.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Let me just say this, If your name is I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Sophie Finkelstein, go ahead and buy Sophie Finkelstein dot com
and then buy Sophie for Colorado and direct people there,
because people like me are gonna look up Sophie Finkelstein
dot com, which is what it should be. I'm just saying,
if your name is available, make it happen. Just make
it happen anyway. So I am very much having an

(08:29):
issue figuring this out. Obviously, I know who I'm gonna
vote for in Douglas County. The Denver Gazette has come
out and endorsed the same for people that I in
my mind was endorsing already. And the choices in Denver
are in some cases really stark, Like we have a
really hardcore left wing candidate, and then we have kind

(08:51):
of a normy left wing candidate.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Because they're all left wing candidates.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I mean, they're not hardcore, maybe center left, but that's
what's gonna get a like it in Denver. That being said,
that school board election matters so much, and it matters
not just to the city of Denver, it matters to
the entire metro area because, as we've said a million
times on this show, as Denver goes, so goes the

(09:17):
rest of us. Eventually all of that, all of the
trouble and problems bleed out into the suburbs. If they
can't be contained in Denver, and if Denver can't get
its act together.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
The rest of us will suffer.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
The reality is is that school districts make a huge
impact when companies are looking to locate in a certain place,
and school districts a well educated, work ready workforce are
incredible considerations. And so if you live in Denver, please

(09:50):
please just pay attention and just cast your vote for
smart and good people. There's a link to this story
in the Denver Gets the Denver Gazette editorial, but I'm
just going to share it with you because this is
how important this is. Denver Public Schools, once a national
pace center for education reform and innovation, has been struggling

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for years. In more ways than one, Colorado's largest school
district has become the states most troubled. Now, I want
to start there for a second. Back in the day
when Denver Public Schools was reforming education and innovating, by
the way, it was Democrats that were doing all of that,
not alone, but it was Democrats that were part of that.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Back then, they were building and creating.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
They had a very open mindset and they were open
to new ideas. And yesterday, if you read the column
on yesterday's blog about whether or not the United States
of America is headed towards the fall of the Roman Empire.
You really should read it. It was it yesterday or Friday,
I can't remember. And the point that they were making
is that when new, I can't think of how to

(11:01):
explain this to sincly, so I'm going to come back
to that. It's very interesting. They've now got a defensive mindset,
that's the thing to know. And instead of looking for
new ideas and new innovations that can help their students
do better faster, they simply circle the wagons around failure
and tell us, because they're raising the graduation rate, everything

(11:22):
is fine. Doesn't matter that their kids can't read and
write on grade level. As long as they're graduating, everything's fine. Well, DPS,
and let me just read this. I'm sorry I digressed.
While some of DPS's decline arguably is beyond the district's control,
its Ebbing enrollment is part of a statewide pattern. A
lot of the district's travails are of its own making,

(11:44):
blame a long dysfunctional school board who's hand picked superintendent
overseas and often at times rogue administration. Among the ripple
effects has been a central office bent on shutting the
press and public out of key decisions, and an upside
down safety and discipline policy that seats high risk lawbreakers
in class to the peril of other students, teachers, and staff. Meanwhile,

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the board's majority has been oblivious as student achievement has plummeted.
An overdue stride back in the right direction was the
election two years ago of three promising new members, John Youngquist,
Kimberlycia and Marlene de la Rosa had the background, mindset
and understanding of the district needs to move it forward again.

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Of course, the only comprised a minority of the seven
member board, so their influence has been limited. This fall's
election offers Denver's parents, taxpayers, and community stakeholders a rare
opportunity to finish a job begun two years ago and
get the district back on track. The Gazette editorial board
highly recommends for bold, smart and dedicated candidates for the

(12:53):
four openings on the DPS Board of Education, and those
are Karen Blank, Marianna deale Well he Arrow, I'm so sorry,
Marianna del hero To, Mia Jackson and alex Ma Gania
so Blank, del Hiero, Jackson, and Maganya and you can

(13:16):
read the rest of the endorsement in the editorial. I'd
link to it on today's blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
The reason that this is critical is because not only
is Denver Public Schools not getting significantly better, they have
gotten worse.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
They've gotten word.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Their discipline matrix is insane.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
It's insane. It's an absolute joke.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Alex Marrero is doing a terrible job as superintendent, and
this board just said now it takes a super majority
to fire him without cause, and that means that if
they do want to fire him, they have to make
up a reason and then defend it in court. Right,
That's what they've done. That's how little they care about
student achievement. This board that we've gotten now, and some
of those people are for reelection.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Please please, please.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
No matter where you are, find out about your school board.
If you're in a political party, then call your Republican
office in your county and ask for help.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Call there and ask for help.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
If you are an independent and you lean Republican, call
the Republican office and ask for help. Please, you, guys,
We've got to take back all of these school boards
that have been lost, all of these school boards that
are focused like a laser on helping kids identify as trans.
By the way, next Monday, I'm talking to a guy
named Eric Kaufman about an article that he just wrote

(14:38):
for Unheard. Trans Identification among young people is dropping like
a rock. It's amazing what happens when a fade passes. Unfortunately,
this I mean a fad passes. This fad ended up
in the permanent medicalization of a lot of people. But
we'll talk to him on Monday and get that going.

(14:59):
But please pay attention to your school board races. Hey, Ron,
what do I want people to pay attention to this year?

Speaker 5 (15:05):
I don't know. You tell me.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Booboard races, school board races. Pay attention to the school
board races in your area.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Please just remember these people that are going through these
schools right now, they're gonna be the ones running our
nursing homes. Okay, if nothing else motivates you, I'm just
saying we really should be worried about that, all right,
you guys. I've got a bunch of different things on
the blog today, but I haven't really talked about.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
The Letitia James thing.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
The Latitia James story is so rich, it is. It
is one of those like most perfect karmic justice type
situations that you almost can't believe that we get to
live through these heady times and see it for ourselves.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Letitia James ran for.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Office to be Attorney Jair of New York on a
platform of getting Donald Trump. She that was her entire
campaign promise, I'm gonna get Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
So when she got into office.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
And decided to go after mister Trump in a crime
that had no victim because he according to Miss James,
and she proved it to the New York jury that
she alleged that Donald Trump lied on loan applications to
get favorable treatment from the banks in terms of like

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interest rates and stuff like that. Now, I'm just gonna
say it. If I knew that I lied on my
mortgage application, as Miss James certainly appears to have done,
based on all the documentation that we've already seen.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
I don't know if I would go that route. I
really don't.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
So imagine imagine Miss James finding out that her lying
on a mortgage application by saying that a house she
was buying was actually a primary residence when it has
been used as a rental property the entire life of
the loan that allowed her to save about nineteen thousand
dollars over the life of the loan. Now, I guess

(17:11):
if it weren't for the fact that she went after
Donald Trump, who was a leading candidate in the Republican Party,
after promising to do so, which in my mind clearly
demonstrates a full on politicization of the New York Attorney
General's office, I might be more forgiving. I might be
more apt to say, yeah, you know what, it's not

(17:34):
that big. It is a big deal. It's a very
big deal. See what you guys may not realize is
it's this kind of mortgage fraud that created in part
the housing crisis of two thousand and eight and two
thousand and nine. It was people filling out mortgage applications falsely.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
And I'm gonna give you an example.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
So you understand, in Southwest Florida, at the height of
the housing boom, everybody was flipping houses. Everybody was buying
new houses from builders on spec, as they called it,
and then they would often sell those houses on spec
to another buyer before the house was even completed, so
the house would already turned to sometimes before someone actually

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moved into the house. It had already changed hands like
four and five times. There was this total grift that
was going on. And I know of a school teacher
who decided she was going to get out on the
grift and that she was going to participate. So she
took out on the same day, three mortgages on three
new homes. She was just going to sell them to

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the next buyer. She was going to flip them get
out of it. She was never going to take possession.
And because she applied on the exact same day, they
didn't hit her credit at this They all hit at
the same time, right, so it didn't cause a problem,
and it didn't.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Show up that she had these two other mortgages.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
And guess what happened. She ran out of suckers in
the market. She did it at the wrong time, and
it was left holding the bag for three mortgages that
she couldn't afford. So yeah, stuff like this mortgage fraud
really affects everybody. And I have no sympathy for Latitia James. Now,
do I think this case is a slam dunk? Probably not,

(19:11):
not unless they get in front of a conservative jury.
That's what I would have done. I mean, that's what
they did in New York. Come on, come on, who
do you think was on that jury?

Speaker 4 (19:21):
So I must say, I gotta tell you this. This
feels kind of rich. It really does feel kind of rich.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
And there's a great article in the Wall Street Journal
and I shared you a free gift link on this one,
and it just talks about how taking on this, taking
on these debts, right, taking on debts and lying in
the mortgage market, even if you think it's a white lie,
it's all part of a bigger problem that costs everybody

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a ton of money.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
When we get back, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
This story from this story, and it's a story of
how there were a couple of companies by subprime audo
dealer Tricolor Holdings and auto parts supplier First Brands Group.
Now this says bankruptcies by these lenders have rattled credit markets.
They were totally expected. But when you hear what these

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people were doing, you're going to have to wonder, how
in the world is any of this legal, and how
in the world can any of this just be allowed
to happen.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
We'll do that after this, keep it right here on KOA.
So we're talking about the Latitia James case.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
But there's a story today in the Wall Street Journal
and opinion piece actually, and it's titled Fraud and Frothy
Markets Lessons from Latitia James, and I want to share
this part with you because it's kind of interesting. Then
I got a comment from Tony, who lights up my
Facebook page all the time, that I want to share
with you as well. So this is from the Wall
Street Journal. Low interest rates can be an inducement for fraud.

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The bigger problem, however, is that lenders have little incentive
to guard against fraud when mortgages are ultimately guaranteed.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
By tax payers. Even if linders.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Suspect fraud, they might choose to ignore it because they
make more money by originating more loans, regardless of quality.
This is the definition of moral hazard, but fraud and
hazards often don't become apparent until the economy heads south.
That may be why reports of fraud are now capturing
more attention in the financial press. Bankruptcies last month by

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the subprime auto dealer Tricolor Holdings and auto parts supplier
First Brands Group have rattled credit markets, not so much
because they were unexpected, which they were, but because sophisticated investors,
including some of the nation's biggest banks and asset managers,
overlooked blazing red flags, both companies took on excessive debt

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and engaged in questionable financial practices. The Justice Department is
reportedly investigating their dealings with creditors, including whether collateral was
double pledged or commingled. But it's hard to feel much
sympathy for the victims who didn't look under the hood
before financing the companies. Tricolor specializes in making loans to

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undocumented immigrants. Barons reported in twenty twenty two that Tricolors
environmental social governance credentials helped it raise money from some
of the nation's highest profile banks and accelerated.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
The growth of its business.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
More than two thirds of its customers lacked a credit score,
according to a Tricolor bond issuance this year. For those
with credit scores, the average was six fourteen. More than
half didn't have a driver's license. President Trump's deportations raised
the risk of defaults, not that its financiers seemed to

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care until the company filed for bankruptcy. So this is
the kind of financial fraud that kind of has these
huge overarching impacts, much like mortgage fraud does. And I
want to share this with you from from Denver. That's
how he started it. As for the James prosecution, he says,

(23:06):
why did all of the veteran dj refuse to take
up her case? And Trump is relying on his woefully
unqualified personal lawyer to take the case. It's a joke
and won't even go to a jury. Oh, by the way,
Trump has three cabinet members who did the same thing
he's accusing her of. And the larger question is do
you really want a president to use the DOJ to

(23:27):
make up cases against people they don't like? Now, Tony, Tony,
tone a tone a Toney, Tony. I want you to
read that last sentence and then go back and read
any of the documentation we have now about.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Biden's FBI.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Continuing continuing to attack Donald Trump and anybody else that
they don't like.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Are you talking about the Department of Justice that refused
to prosecute Hillary Clinton for what they then decided to
prosecute Donald Trump for?

Speaker 4 (24:06):
I mean, what Department of Justice are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Here's what I think has to happen because no, I
don't want to politicized Department of Justice, but I also
don't want powerful people to get away with crimes. Straight up,
I think it is magical that everybody's going after everybody
for mortgage fraud because you know what.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
You know didn't commit mortgage fraud.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Me.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
When I went to buy.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Our second property, I listed it as a second property. Yeah,
I didn't commit mortgage fraud. Amazing, amazing how that worked out.
Crazy fun, Another fun wrinkle in this whole Tiss James case.
The house in question has been inhabited by a couple

(24:53):
of nieces of hers in Yeah, enter Virginia home. She's
a couple of nieces live in there. We're starting to
find out a little bit about the niece now. The
underfire prosecutor's grand niece, Nikiah Thompson, has been living with
her three children in the three bedroom property in Norfolk

(25:15):
since twenty twenty. The problem is she is what's known
as an absconder, wanted by authorities in Forsyth County, North
Carolina for not finishing her probation for a different crime.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
She was sent to probation for misdemeanor commictionions for assault
in battery and trespassing and has willfully avoided probation supervision.
So here's the couple different angles on this that I'd
like to throw out there. And I don't want to say, uh,
what's good for the goose is good for the gander,
but hmmm, what's good for the goose?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
You know how the rest goes. I just said it.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
She, knowing that she falsified mortgage documentation, pursued the President
on a purely political basis. So why in the world
would I be the least bit upset when Karma decides
to get an indictment. And as for Trump secretary or
his attorney, I have no idea about her credentials, but

(26:15):
I'm gonna have to let it ride out and make
a judgment on that based on what Tony accused her
of on the Facebook page, which I knowed he left
out on.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
This, Tony because you knew it was wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Anyway, Mandy President, Bronco Bomber is the worst sports source
loser I've ever seen his wife too, Broncobamber, what is that?
What does I don't understand? I thought Jesse Kelly was
calling himself Bronco now Anyway, So I just thought that

(26:49):
was super interesting that a company that's entire business model
was giving loans car loans, mind you, to illegal immigrants,
was getting all kinds of vest from big banks because well,
it fits some sort of social standard. If that's not
an indictment of ESG investing, I don't know what is.

(27:10):
Why any fool would put their money in any kind
of fund that use that as their standard is just
beyond me, completely beyond me. All right, with foot, Letitia
to bed, and we'll just let this whole thing play out.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
It'll go to the jury.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
They can figure it out for themselves, and then the
jury can decide if it's a politically motivated prosecution that
deserves to be heard or if they just want to
shut it down.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm just glad she's having to deal with the same
level of crap she met it out to other people
when she was doing the exact same thing. And to
be clear, you guys, there's no doubt that she led
on these mortgage applications. She signed it over and over.
If you've ever gotten a mortgage, you know they go
over everything a thousand times.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Mandy So regarding mortgage fraud, Tish James, etc. How do
we move past? Asked? What about is?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
That?

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Is a great question.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
What I think has to happen is that the Republican
and Democrat politicians are going to go after each other
so hard that someone's gonna end up going to jail eventually,
and then the other team will be like, hey, you
know what, we probably should stop this because we're all
gonna end up going to jail and it's going to
be our own fault. And if they don't, then we'll
be able to put all of them in jail for everything,

(28:23):
and maybe a new nation can emerge. I realize it
sounds absurd, the part of me is actually hoping for that, Like,
don't get it together. Politicians keep eating each other's lunches
because I think that there are far too many people
in Washington, DC who have these kind of crimes in
their background. Tax evasion, mortgage fraud, financial fraud. I think

(28:47):
that Washington DC is rife with it. Throw them all
in jail, that would be perfectly fine. This Texter said
Mandy Trump is not politicizing the DJ he is depoliticizing it.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I actually think there's some truth there between the firings
and people leaving voluntarily. I feel like some of the
worst of the worst has probably already gone. We'll be
back right after this. Keep it on, Koa. You know,
there's a few things happening right now in the Republican
Party that I absolutely love. And I say this as
someone who has always a skewed the sort of bass fighting.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
That Donald Trump does. I don't like it. I don't
love it, but I love JD.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Vance And I'm gonna play a sound bite of JD
Vance on with George Stephanopolis and George Stephanopolis I this alone, this,
this sound bite, this, this video is worth going to
the blog today just to watch George Stephanopolos's face at
the end when he abruptly ends the interview.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
This is a minute of what we're gonna call Republican spine.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
I don't know what tape you're referring to, George. I
saw media reports that Tom Holman accepted a bribe. There's
no evidence of that. And here's George, why fewer and
fewer people watch your program and why you're losing credibility
because you're talking for now five minutes with the Vice
President of the United States about this story regarding Tom
holm and a story that I've read about, but I

(30:19):
don't even know the video that you're talking about. Meanwhile,
low income women can't get food because the Democrats and
Chuck Schumer have shut down the government.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Right now, we're trying.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
To figure out how to pay our troops because Chuck
Schumer has shut down the government. You're focused on a
bogus story. You're insinuating criminal wrongdoing against a guy who
has done nothing wrong, instead of focusing on the fact
that our country is struggling because our government's shut down.
Let's talk about the real issues, George. I think the
American people would benefit much more from that than from

(30:50):
you going down some weird left wing rabbit hole where
the facts clearly show that Tom Holman didn't engage in
any criminal wrongdoing.

Speaker 8 (30:57):
It's not a weird left wing rabbit hole. I didn't
insinuate anything. I asked you whether Tom Holman accepted fifty
thousand dollars as was heard on an audio tape recorded
by the FBI in September twenty twenty four, and you
did not answer the question.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Thank you for your time.

Speaker 8 (31:11):
I said that I build up next we'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Oh my god, you guys should see his face. You
should see his face now.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I looked into the Tom home And thing again today
because I thought maybe I missed something and I'm not
up to speed because I paid attention when it first
came out. Didn't talk about it because I'm I'm just
at the point now where unless and until there's some
kind of evidence to the situation, kind of like I
haven't really talked about the Letitia James thing right until
there's an indictment, until we know, and I won't talk

(31:42):
about the Latitia James thing again until there's some kind
of disposition.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
I think that we I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
We're too obsessed with following every aspect of how we
think the sausage is being made, when in reality, if
you can't, if you can't do anything about the outcome,
just let it all play out and then go get
caught up later. That's kind of my strategy, and it
works keeps me from getting into a ladder. So the
Tom Homeans situation is this. There was a news outlet,
It's got a couple of news outlets reported that sources

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within the FBISA the Tom Holman was caught on tape
before he was the Homeland Security borders are caught on
tape accepting fifty thousand dollars in cash. Now he was
accepting fifty thousand dollars in cash in exchange for some
vague sort of conversation about no real specific outcomes, just

(32:31):
in case he became a government official. And when the
new administration took over, they reviewed the case and said
there's no there there. Now I have a big fat
question about it, and that is, did fifty thousand dollars
change hands? And if so wears that money, was it
reported on Tom Holman's taxes, Going right back to what
I just said. But until and unless someone can either

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produce the tape, which has never been produced, the Justice
Department back then didn't release it.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
If it was.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I mean, you think there are plenty of ways to
leak out of that department. So I'm curious about that,
and or they indict Tom Holman. But the problem with
indicting Tom Holman is is that he was a private
citizen and there was no quid pro quote quit pro quo.
Is I say, hey, Aron, if you make me sound
like I know what I'm doing today, I will give

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you fifty thousand dollars, and I slide that envelope across
the table, and then a rod slides it back and goes,
I'm not a miracle worker.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
That's quid pro quo. I will yeah, exactly, I will
give you money. Yeah, I will give you money if
you do this thing. And that did not occur. No
one's even alleging that occurred. So those are the questions
I have. But for George Stephanopolis to spend a ton
of time on that story, that story on the same

(33:50):
weekend that everything was happening in the Middle East, and
by everything, I mean everything. And when we get back,
we're going to have a little segment called why Trump's
foreign policy is the best foreign policy since World War Two?
And those are words that your host never thought would

(34:11):
come out of my mouth. I mean, I never really
thought about it that much. But the way Donald Trump
has upended the world order, and I am so done
with this idiotic left wing clap trap.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Of oh that god. Donald Trump is so embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
The rest of the world hates him, and they hate
us because of him. You know what, when Donald Trump
snapped his friaking fingers and said I'm gonna be in Egypt.
You guys want to show up. Look at the world
leaders that are standing behind Donald J.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Trump.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
We'll do this next, but a little more in depth.
It's not just gonna be a slobber all over it now.
It's going to be actually talking about the things that
have made this time different, even as I am not
certain it's going to stand. We shall get into all
of that next.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Keep it on KOA.

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Speaker 3 (35:23):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connell, joined by Anthony Rodriguez behind
the board YEP and the Common Sense Institute, and I
sing the praises of the Common Sense Institute earlier on
the show today, and now that I've got Kelly Cawfield,
the executive director of Common Sense on the show, I
want to reiterate this, Kelly. One of the things that

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you guys do so incredibly well in all of your
research and your papers and all of that stuff, it
is never written in legalese or sort of language that
is hard to parse or understand. It is accessible to everyone,
and therefore it is you. And that is not something
I can say about everythink take some they some it's
a little too lofty.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Thank you so much, Mandy at the Common Sense Institute.
That's really our mission to bring complex data in a
more simplified, digestible way so that Colorado policymakers and voters
can better understand our economy and the trends of important
issues like education.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
So let's talk about this recent paper you did, Dollars
in Data twenty twenty five on education. First of all,
is this something you do annually? You just kind of
take a look see or what inspired this paper?

Speaker 6 (36:35):
That's right about the back to school window. We like
to release this report. We do that annually. I think
this is the seventh or eighth edition of this report
where we're trying to show long term trends of student funding, enrollment,
and performance.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
So I got to tell you, I was a little
bit I was kind of surprised at how much money
we are actually spending per student in Colorado's let's kind
of start with that. First of all, where does this
money come from?

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I mean, we could we could do a.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Quick primer on, you know, how schools are funded, because
people have a misconception here in Colorado that if you
live in an area with very high property values and
you pay a ton of property taxes, that your school
districts get more money, and that is not accurate. So
how where does the money come from and everything? Let's
talk about it in terms of per pupil right, so

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we'll just start with per pupil spending, what is it
and what makes it up?

Speaker 6 (37:35):
And in Common Sense Institute's Report, Mandy, we're.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
Trying to look at things holistically.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
So this report is looking at all of the revenue
that comes into fun public schools.

Speaker 9 (37:46):
And there's really three primary sources.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
That's local revenue, that state revenue, and then it's federal revenue.
So when we're talking about local revenue, that's coming from
property taxes generally that also includes mill levey overrides and
mills for bonded indebtedness. That's a little harder to describe,
but that's the local keys, mainly property taxes. When you

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talk about state revenue, those are the funds collected by
our state government that are appropriated to school districts, and
that includes the per pupil contributions from our state Education's fund,
and that's a large part of the funding from the
Colorado budget for education flows through that state education fund.

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And then finally, that third component is the federal revenue
and that's of course money coming from Washington that's distributed
to school districts that either goes directly to the district
or funnels through our Colorado Department of Education.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
So that's three different funding sources. What does that come
down to when we're looking at the total for that
for each student?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Right?

Speaker 6 (38:56):
So our analysis shows the pupil revenue average is about
twenty thousand per student, and that is when you aggregate
the revenue across local, state, and federal sources, and that.

Speaker 9 (39:12):
Has significantly increased.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
When we look at the growth in revenue, it's grown
over twenty percent since twenty twenty, rising from fourteen point
five billion to about seventeen point six billion. And overall
spending is also increasing at twenty four percent, so significant
growth in K twelve spending while we are seeing declines

(39:37):
in enrollment, which I'm happy to unpack.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, let's stop there for just a second. But I
want to kind of skip to the other part of
this that I found so mind blowing is like, you know,
most people think, oh, that's good, we've got more spending.
That means more money's going in the classroom. It's going
to go directly towards student achievement. You're going to get
math support, reading support, You're going to have all these
people that are going to be working with all these students.
But that's not at all what has been happening. The

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biggest areas of growth have been in administration. That is
super frustrating.

Speaker 9 (40:09):
That's right. I think a focus more on our teachers.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
And instruction matters so much. I'm you know, I'm a
daughter two public school teachers, really believe in public education here.
But you're right, when we're looking at the trends over time,
administrative growth outpaces instructional spending.

Speaker 9 (40:27):
So from since today, since two thousand and nine.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
The number of administrators and non teaching staff has risen.

Speaker 9 (40:35):
By more than thirty percent, and that's compared to less
than ten.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Percent a nine percent increase in teachers. So that's nine
percent growth in teachers, while you saw administrators and non teaching.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
Staff grow by thirty percent. It's a real disparity there.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Now, Have you guys did any digging, because I was
trying to think of valid reasons for that kind of
explosion and administration. One of them could be just managing
eating from the state. That feels like a full time job, right,
But why is there been such a growth? That's what
I'm really trying to figure out. Did you guys get
into any of that. If that's outside the sphere of

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the study, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
I was just curious.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
You know, this report does not dig into those details,
and I think we should in a follow up study.
But in previous you know, analyzes that I've seen from
the state, the Colorado Department of Education, you know, they
do say, hey, there's been a large number of programs
created by the Colorado legislature that has additional reporting requirements.

(41:36):
Think some of those are probably good, but I do
think that's driving up some of the administrative spending. You're
also seeing our students sadly needing more support, so mental
health counselors, social workers. Having more people in the building
that are non instructional is a decision that the districts
are making, and I'm sympathetic to some of those but

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still believe when you're seeing the proficiency scores that.

Speaker 9 (42:03):
Colorado is seeing.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Yeah, I would suggest instructional staff is something that matters
the most.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I agree, And you know, we can have a longer
conversation some other time about this new focus as mental
health being the number one thing in schools.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
I don't think. I don't like that before. We'll talk
about that later.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
I do want to talk about declining enrollment because that
is a significant problem. And we've already kind of seen
some of the issues with declining enrollment in that we're
now closing the schools. Districts are sort of moving and
I actually have a lot of sympathy for school districts
in this way because neighborhoods change.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
We like the neighborhood I moved into was mostly senior
people when we moved in, and it's kind of turned
over over the years we've been here. But and you
have to kind of move schools to go where the
people are, and that's a huge issue.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
But what does the overall enrollment numbers look like in
Colorado now?

Speaker 6 (43:00):
So Colorado's K twelve enrollment has now fallen for five
straight years.

Speaker 9 (43:06):
When we looked across every school district.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
We have about one hundred and eighty school districts, one
seventy eight to be precise, but we found that one
hundred and sixteen of our one hundred and seventy eight
school districts they lost enrollment in this most recent school
year of twenty four to twenty five. And that's including
you know, people may say, oh, that's the small districts.

Speaker 9 (43:25):
No, it's including the nine largest districts in Colorado. And
it's a bit of a mixed bag when you look
at those.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
But the ones that really stand out to me for
significant declines in enrollment Jefferson County D eleven in Colorado Springs,
which is one of the largest, the largest school districts.
I believe in that region they're seeing particular challenges in
declining enrollment.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
So i'd like to I just want to point out
some stuff about that because people would be like, what
does it matter? You know, then we don't have to
spend as much money on schools, But when it comes
down to it, as the student body shrink, what happens
first is the loss of programs that if you don't
have enough kids to participate in band or in theater
or in chorus or in wrestling or whatever.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Then you lose those programs. So this matters a lot.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Now, did you guys do any sort of digging into
why we're losing students? Are they going to private school?
Are we not having as many kids? Which I know
that in Colorado people are kidless here more than other states.
So any guesses on that, Kelly right.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
And we did a fertility study showing significant declines in fertility,
which has huge implications for cage twelve and higher education.

Speaker 9 (44:44):
So that is a part of the story.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
The Colorado Department of Education does not track private school enrollment,
so that is a harder data point to parse out.
We are looking at some census data metrics to try
to better unpack that story.

Speaker 9 (45:01):
I do think another part of.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
It is homeschooling is something that some families are I
think particularly interested in. Something that we did look at
though in this report is we looked at how does
declining enrollment change by the age.

Speaker 9 (45:18):
Of the student?

Speaker 6 (45:19):
And I find this interesting side younger children, declining enrollment
is especially prevalent with the younger children. So these younger
grades in elementary school, you know, parents are making different
decisions either private schools or doing more holdbacks, or potentially
homeschooling at.

Speaker 9 (45:39):
These younger ages.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
Interestingly enough, where enrollment actually increased since twenty twenty was
in high school.

Speaker 9 (45:48):
It was specifically in grades ten through twelve. So that thing.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
Interesting to further study that maybe the larger high schools,
offering more amenities and extracurriculars are more at attractive to
some parents, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
And also I have multiple friends who have homeschooled their
kids K through eight.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
But when you get into high school.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Either the kid wanted to have a quote normal high
school experience, or the kid wanted to take advanced sort
of chemistry, you know, physics, those sort of higher level coursework,
and the parents were like, Okay, I'm not necessarily equipped.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
So I wonder if.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
That homeschooling pipeline going K through eight and then sending
kids to PubL high school.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
I wonder if that has an impact as well.

Speaker 9 (46:30):
Yes, I think it might.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
You know. The real star I have to say for
enrollment is in Northern Colorado. Greeley school districts is seeing
huge expansions. Common Sense did a report on Greeley because
it is one of the higher.

Speaker 9 (46:46):
Fertility rates in the state people are having babies, and
Greeley and the.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Public school systems really on benefiting from that and from
that trend. Well.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Kelly Cawfield, Executive director of the Common Sense Institute, Dude,
thanks so much for your time today. Thanks for this report.
It's very very eye opening. And again I said it
to my listeners earlier, there's so much data in this
like two page, easy to read, easy to understand. It
will take you no time at all to read the
whole thing. It's not like a big, dry, boring report.

(47:18):
So I would urge you and I keep telling people
this is why school board races matter.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
School board races matter so so much.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Kelly Cawfield, thanks so much for making this happen over
there at common Sense.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
Thank you, Mandy, And I did want to say later
this month, Common Sense Institute will be launching a dashboard
where we will be digitizing this data and your viewers
can search by school district and better understand the trends
and the school finance of their district and how it
compares to the state average. So more there at Common
Sense Institute CEO dot org.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
We'll revisit when you come back, all right, Thanks Kelly,
all right by bye. That is Kelly Kawfield from the
Common Sense Instituting On one second.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
There we go recording.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Oh, sorry about that, didn't mean to do that anyway, Mandy.
When the robot overlords take control of society, will school
enrollment matter?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
This will be a non issue in the future.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
And I already don't care that from Jared in Boulder,
you know, Jared, I think we should just I'm just
gonna stipulate to this. Everything I talk about on this show,
everything hopeful about the future, everything that I bring to
your attention, We're gonna put that in the robot apocalypse
did not happen the side of the room, and then

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in the other side of the room, it's just a
big old pile of dust and bones. And that's if
the robot apocalypse happens. So we'll just concede that that
dark side of the room exists, but we'll just operate
as if it's not going to happen.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
So you can't see it.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
I'm actually right side, left side there you go. Yeah,
So it's very very interesting. But again, these are the
this is like, we have to play with this deck
we've got right now, right, that's what we're doing right here.
We're playing with the cards we've been dealt, and the
cards we've been dealt say pay attention to the school
board races. And I know, Jared, you're in Boulder, Boulder Valley. Wow,

(49:13):
I don't know if you have any non whacka doodles running.
I have no idea good luck with that. God speed, Bolder,
godspeed a couple of things that I want to talk. Well,
let me stick with Boulder for just a second, so,
I don't know if you guys remember this. Back in
twenty eighteen, Boulder filed a whole bunch of lawsuits against everybody,

(49:38):
I mean everybody when it comes to climate. Yeah. The
Colorado Supreme Court made a decision back in February of
this year, and the Supreme Court, the US Supreme Court
is now trying to decide whether or not they're going

(49:59):
to review the decision. The decision was to dismiss a
ridiculous lawsuit filed by the city and County at Boulder.
The litigation is completely a wolf in sheep's clothing situation.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Behind.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
The plaintiffs who are yelling for accountability are just ideological
attempts to demonize the oil and gas industry and drive
policy through the courtroom instead of the legislature. Now this
was back in twenty eighteen. We know what's happened since then.
The Democrats have taken over. They've successfully driven oil and
gas out of Colorado just with their own legislative powers.

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So this whole thing doesn't really matter. But the lawsuit
is continued because the lawsuit is backed by a whole
bunch of people like George Soros, the Rockefeller's, anti engineer,
anti energy, British billionaire Chris Hone is part of it,
and they want this to go through because they want

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to inflict all of these stupid rules that we've got
here in Colorado on the entire country. So there's been
a move to intervene in the wave of climate lawfare
across the country. There's just one lawsuit, and now an
amicus brief has been filed by the House Majority Leader
Steve Scalise and joined by one hundred and two other lawmakers.

(51:26):
The members are asking that the court take up this
case to finally squash it because, and this is from
their amicus brief, it upends the constitutional balance between federal
and state authority and threatens to let every locality in
the country sue essentially anyone in the world.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Over climate change. So we'll have to wit and see
what happens here we will.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
By the way, four Colorado members of Congress signed on
to the brief. That would be Representative Lauren Bobert, Jeff Crank,
Jeff Hurd, and Gabe Evans. So this is all going
on now, So keep keep your fingers crossed that the
Supreme Court takes us on and finally shuts all this
stuff down. It's just another example of Democrats in Colorado

(52:12):
loving local control unless it's zoning, unless it's something that
they want to inflict on you, in which case local
control sucks and they have to use the power of
the state to get us to do their will.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
But when we want to do the same things.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
They want us to do, like sue oil and gas companies,
heck yeah, local control.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Is what it's all about. You guys want to tighten
gun laws, local control for you.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
You guys want to loosen gun laws, No way, the
state rules Supreme It's all so dumb.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
It's just so dumb.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
The amicus brief, and this is from a column on
Complete Colorado.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
The amicus brief also arrives.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Amid growing concern on Capitol Hill around the coordinated network
behind the lawsuits, The House Judiciary and Oversight committees have
launched investigations into sure Edling, the dark money law firm
coordinating many of these cases, and the Bloomberg NYU SAG
program that activists use to push climate lawsuits through state
attorney generals.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Attorneys General, sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Additionally, twenty three state attorneys general wrote a letter to
the EPA calling him to cancel federal grants to the
Environmental Law Institute, which runs the Radical Judicial Education Effort
Climate Judiciary Project.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
There's all kinds of stuff going on right now. This
is one of the.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
This is one of the times most recently. I mean,
I don't remember a case bigger than this in terms
of you've got the environmental left the power grabbers, and
I mean that literally and figuratively. They want us to
not have access to reliable energy.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
That's what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
They're grabbing our power and replacing it with something that
only works when certain conditions are met. And you've got
the Republican Party United on the right saying this is ridiculous.
You cannot allow people to utilize the courts.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
This is really funny.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
This is really just another example of lawfair that we
were talking about at the beginning of the show with
Letitia James prosecuting Donald Trump. Now Donald Trump is prosecuting
Latitia James. You've got people figured they couldn't win in Congress,
so they're trying to use the courts to write policy
that will then what bind Congress. Interesting huh, that's what

(54:30):
happens when you have a losing idea that you know
is a bad one. But in all honesty, I kind
of welcome this kind of scrutiny by the courts because surely,
well I don't know, justices don't know anything about climate either.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
We'll see what happens. Hopefully Boulder gets their little finger
smacked and they stop with this kind of idiocy. I
know they won't, but a girl can dream. We'll be
right back. Keep it on KOA. So somebody just sent
this to the Common Spirit health excellent, and I looked
it up, and indeed the Supreme Court on Monday turned
away it appealed by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones over a

(55:10):
one point four billion dollar defamation judgment. Why while he
lied about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, and the
parents sued him for being an absolutely horrible person, and
they won, and they were they were given a one
point four billion dollar defamation judgment. Now this will absolutely

(55:35):
absolutely wipe him out financially as well as should And
you know, as a as a fellow broadcaster, his lack
of human decency and his disgusting manipulations of gullible people

(55:56):
to convince them.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
That this was all a lie.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
It is such a stain on my profession. And let's
be real, guys, we're not caring cancer over here. Okay,
It's not like I have this grandiose vision of what
my career is.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Okay, that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
But when you see someone it was such an open grift,
and it's based on the most vile, disgusting, hurtful thing
that any human being could go through, and that's the
loss of a child. I have no sympathy for the
man whatsoever. Back when I first got my show, so
two thousand and five, I got some pitch from some

(56:36):
pr and I was, you know, I was new, I
had no idea what I was doing, and I got
a pitch to have this guy Alex Jones on the air,
and I was like, sure, okay, And I don't remember
what the interview was about. I don't even remember what
we were talking about. But what I remember is that
as he continued talking during the interview, I just got
more incredulous and more incredulous of the words that were

(56:56):
coming out of his mouth because they were in no
way accurate in what I knew to be true.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
And when I said, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
You're you are not saying anything that I that any
other rational person is saying, and he said, just because
I'm saying it doesn't mean it's true.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
And I realized that was his grift.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
So Alex Jones' initial grift was this, and that was
he'd go on his little show and he'd be like,
I'm gonna tell you how the federal government's gonna screw
everybody over and put poison in our water, whatever it was.
I actually think that's a pretty good Alex Jones impression
now that I just heard it. But then then when

(57:36):
when whatever horrible, horrific thing that he uh said was
gonna happen so he could sell vitamins didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Then he would be like, well they would have done it.
If they would have gotten away with if.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
It wasn't for us, they would have gotten away with it. Well,
we stopped it. We stopped it because we talked about it.
It's like, no, dude, you made it up. You freaking
fabricated it. And this is what he did with this
Sandy Hook story. And so now he's going to have
to figure out how to pay one point four billion dollars.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
A six person Connecticut jury agreed in twenty twenty two
that Joan should pay nine hundred and sixty five million
to the families as compensation for defamation, infliction of emotional distress,
and violations.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Of a Connecticut law.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
A state court judge added another four hundred and seventy
four million in punitive damages one month later.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
By the way, the Supreme Court, he was asking them
to do something about the judgment because it can never
be paid.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Yeah, can never be paid anyway. So we'll see. I'm
not going to miss him.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
And I'm just gonna say it, guys, if you were
a fan of his, because on occasion, he would rarely
get something right, and then he would crow about how
they got it right, and you believed him, Please stop, Please,
please stop, and recognize that I'm not trying to be
a jerk to you. I'm trying to be as kind

(59:04):
as I can. But you've been duped, and the deeper
you go down that hole, the dumber you look. I mean,
I wish I could tell you some other way, but
if you're following Alex Jones at this point, that's a
level of willful ignorance that borderlines, you know, like diagnosably delusional. Right,

(59:28):
Mandy's absolutely disgusting, But I would argue Kyle Clark is
just as damaging. Hmm, well, you know, I mean, everybody
makes decisions about what to cover and what not to cover.
Mandy's from the Common Spirit health text line. By the way,
you can text us five six six nine. Oh, Mandy
doesn't seem like Candas Owens is trying to become the

(59:49):
next Alex Jones. Seems like there's a void on the
far right for a new king or queen of conspiracies
hashtag bring back Alex Lol, Jared and Boulder. Yes, and
that makes me incredibly sad. It makes me incredibly sad
to see some of the stuff that Tucker Carlson has done.
As I'm late it's like you just decided to lean
into the grift. You just decided that. Ugh ah, and

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Candace that one made me sad.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
She's made me very, very sad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
The whole I don't even want to you know what
I just said about creating, and you know your own
story by what you decide not to talk about. I'm
not talking about Candace Owans. Just don't don't send me anything.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Have you seen this? That's what you used to kill me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
They'd send me these in for worst cliffs. Have you
seen this? Why aren't you talking about this? Mostly because
it's complete garbage, But whatever, it's fine. You do you anyway? Hey, Ayrod,
did you happen to see a very important news story
in the Denver Gazette today that says, oh, it was
in yesterday's paper.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Excuse me?

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Colorado State Patrol urges zipper merge after US fifty one
oone crashes. Look at that it's catching off like a shot.
Take it off the zipper merge.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
I have in the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Past two weeks successfully zipper merged like six times, and
only one time did.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
I get the hairy eyeball and it just waved.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Fa none zero zip. People have been very they Oh,
we're getting it we Colorado. Can you feel the zipper
merge mania racing through our roadways right now? We're beginning
to love the zipper merge. We can't zipper merge well enough.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
One car from the right, one car from the left,
one car from the right, one car from the left.
It's amazing, it's amazing. It's like a whole new world.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Pretty soon, we're all gonna be singing together in our
cars Kumbai yaws.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
We go through the zipper merge at the same time.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Don't be that one guy to get the zipper caught
on your you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Okay, that's an excellent way to put it, Yes, way
to put it. Be careful on the Alex Jones things,
says this texter. Two things can be true at the
same time. Alex Jones can be an ass and the
court could also be way wrong. Do I think one
point four billion dollars is an insane verdict?

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yes? I do.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Do I think Alex Jones did the things that they
said he did, And do I think they suffered because
of it?

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Yes? I do.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
We have those laws for a reason, we truly do.
And it's not It wasn't a one off. If it
was just Alex Jones on one show saying, you know,
I think this might have been staged, but it was.
It went on and on and on for months and
months and months. He earned every one point four billion

(01:02:44):
dollars of it. Yeah, yeah, Mandy. When Mandy has gone,
if she calls in there's breaking news, or to check in,
to give us a weather report from Ohio, give us
a good trip. No, I will not when I am off,
I am off, and I would I mean not that
I don't think anything bad is gonna happen at Gayaway.

(01:03:06):
I'm just saying I don't. But if it did, I
wouldn't know until I got back. The only thing I
can the only thing I can think of him being
right is the gay frogs. Alo, What are the gay frogs?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
What is that? What is that? Do you know what
that is? They ride?

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Nope, dang it, dang it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Now that's another thing I have to look up on
the internet. My browser's gonna think I'm a Weirdoh thanks,
I don't need to be judged.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
By my robot overlord's more.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Anyway, Mandy, I think you need to end out car
magnets that say follow me to the.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Correct merge point.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Okay to the text, who said Alex Jones is also
a huge zipper merge enthusiast. Sometimes a blind squirrel finds
a nut. Okay, broken clock write twice a day, Mandy.
I have little faith in Coloradin's being able to merge
the left in the right, but we can hope.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
I'm telling you it's happening. It is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
People are zip emerging. They're singing and joy as they're
doing it. They're giving big smiles to the cars next
to and maybe a little, you know, tip of the hat.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Oh, they're putting freaking chemicals in the water to turn
the frogs.

Speaker 8 (01:04:22):
Gay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Oh I miss that story somehow in my show prep process.
I'll try to do better next time. Will be right
back on KOA as the official most enthusiastic about Halloween
member of The Mandy Connell Show by far. Do you

(01:04:43):
have a Halloween playlist?

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
What's what's on it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Because that haunts like monster mash, which is fine, I
mean that's more fucking What is on your Halloween playlist?
What kind of song like I would think Rob Zombie
can make an appearance.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
Absolutely zombie. Yeah, there's more thriller remixes on there. Yeah,
nothing gets people fired up like the Ghostbusters theme song.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
And it is kind of the same playlist and.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
A little more Michael Jackson the I always feel like
somebody's watch.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
That's a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
What else? Oh, Psycho Killer obviously is Oh there you go?
Halloween playlist? Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
I still have yet to make a playlist.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
There are some really really well produced, like house music
versions of all those songs I just mentioned, and they're
all so good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
I I don't know how to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
This is one of those things that I'm probably not
gonna learn until I'm retired, and then I might figure
it out.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
I don't know. Playlists just seem like work to me.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Oh yeah, we put a lot of thought into our
Halloween party playlist.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
I knew you would have one too, I do. Before
even ask the question, I'm like, of course, a right
has a.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
Halloween place, saying multiple people last year, notably content complimented it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Oh oh this is Did you share it with anybody?
Because this is not what the kids today do. But
you don't share your playlist with people?

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
No, no, no, no, no, ours is ours is ours is private.
You want that playlist, you better read the party.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Uh oh well sock okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Well then I'm wondering how many other people in our
listening audience have a Halloween playlist.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
The only music that I'm really, like, you know, focused
on is Christmas music.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
Of course, that for me is easy. I just look
up a playlist that has the classics, because I'm a
purist with Christmas music. I hate all the crazy, weird
variations of the classics. Give me the classics all day.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I don't mind some of the variations.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Or boubla are exceptions.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Oh what about Wingo Boingo dead Man's Ball. Oh that's
a good one. You gotta have that one on there?
Docin Dream Warrior, you got any DCIn on there?

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
No? Do it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Wasn't Dacin Ronnie James do o?

Speaker 9 (01:06:53):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
That was do O?

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
What? No?

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Maybe Ronnie James Deo wasn't Dawkin. Wait a minute, I'm
having a brain fart here. Let's see here was one
of the great hair metal bands in the eighties, and
they had lots of We probably asked them Dawkin in
our system, and who was the leads?

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
It was Don Dawkin, I was Johnny Yeah no, did
that backwards? Also named after the lead singer. See if
we have any Dawkin in the system right now, I'm
sure we do. They actually had hits. So uh Dream
Warrior five six sixth and I know. I want to
know what's on your Halloween playlist, or more importantly, what's
you go on a Rod's Halloween playlist? Do you have

(01:07:33):
the anything from the It's the Great Pumpkins Charlie Brown
on the playlist?

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Anything?

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
No, no, no, no in my play Let me let
me let me answer that question with telling you the
title of my playlist from last year's party that will
likely be the playlist again. This is your's party, got it?
The Halloween playlist is called Halloween Rage.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Uh oh okay, So so now we'll wear.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Wolves of London. That's not going on there.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
That's not really a rager, no okey thriller remix that
I'm looking at right now. That is so good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Someone is recommending Shinedown's new song Killing Fields for HALLOWEENO. Yeah,
there you go, uh don doc and yes, thank you
for those.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
On that one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
So we'll get this, we'll get this going.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
We'll have your entire Halloween playlist, taken care of anything
that you've forgotten, and maybe I'll learn how to make
a playlist and do one for Christmas. For the longest time,
I've wanted to do an iHeart Radio Mandy Colin on
Christmas Channel on the iHeart app. And I just I
don't know how it takes people take skills.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
I don't have any of that. Just yeah, kind of
let it go. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Well, if you have those, go ahead and text those
to us in the next hour. I got a couple
things that I want to talk about. Yesterday in the
article with Eric Bain that we had from Reason dot com,
we were talking about why neither of us like the
fact that the Trump administration is buying shares in companies,
And if you miss that interview, you should go back
and listen to it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
It's very very good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Eric was spot on, and it really comes down to
it's too rife for a favoritism situation, and too rife
for for one company to be favored that doesn't deserve
to be favored.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Okay, a Rod, are you ready? You ready for all
these hit me? Bad Moon Rising? That's CCR Cream's Clearwater revival.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah, Marilyn Manson, you got any Marilyn Manson or nine
inch nails.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
I believe I do. If not, they will yes.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
Alice Cooper, Alice Cooper and any Alice.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
Trying to think what Alice Cooper song I would have
on the Halloween playlist. It's good.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Purple. People used to scare me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
We dreamed. Marilyn Manson definitely going on the playlist.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Yeah, mine is just a woman screaming for four hours.
That's a Halloween playlist.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
One hundred songs on this playlist. Good lord, Well then.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
You're gonna be fine. That's an to take you right
up until the early wee hours of the morning. When
we get back yesterday, Daoe.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
The Beetlejuice song absolutely on there. Oh there you go remix.
I think it looks like yeah, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
When we get back yesterday, we talked about whites bad
for the US government to be invested in companies, and
I said, I'd rather the private industry do this. We've
got news on that today. Plus we've got all kinds
of stuff. I've got twelve minutes on the blog of
just families being reunited with hostages. Oh my goodness, get
ready to ugly cry. We'll talk about that. And let's

(01:10:33):
talk for a little bit right up after this about
the things that Trump did differently in the Middle East
to get us where we are today.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
We'll do that right after this. Keep it on KOA.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
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Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Welcome, welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
This is my final hour of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
I'll be on vacation, but you are going to have
Jimmie Segenberger to take great care of you while I'm gone,
so don't you worry about that. Anthony Rodriguez here with
me for the last hour of the program.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Hey, Rod, how long did you figure out? Your playlist is.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
Six hours worth? Yeah, one hundred plus songs, So.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
I think you've got it going on right there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Yeah, angers galore.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Well, there's more at the on the on the text
line if you want to check it out at five six, six,
nine oh. The Common Spirit Health checks line in the meantime,
I want to talk a little bit more, and I
promise there are some in this audience that are like God, me, anybody.
You always have to talk at Israel. What this is
a huge story. And even if you don't hang on,

(01:12:01):
I putting on chapstick. Should have done this on the break,
but I didn't. All right, even if you didn't care
about Israel, you have to understand that the things that
are going on right now in the Middle East, not
just in Israel, but in all of the nations around Israel,
are incredibly significant because of the sort of isolation that

(01:12:23):
is happening with our adversaries. Ran is our adversary. They
would love to be able to launch an attack on
the United States. That would be devastating. Nothing would make
them happier. They would love to bring down the Great Satan. Well,
they have been humbled dramatically. And they've been humbled dramatically
because Donald Trump, as president, decided to go in a

(01:12:45):
completely different direction than every other administration before him. He
simply looked at what had been done and said, well,
that's not going to work, not at all.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
One of the big differences.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
I've got a bunch of stuff linked the Free Press
is the organization started by Barry Wise, who's now the
editor in chief of CBS News. They're very unabashedly pro Israel,
and they have done some of the best writing on
why we are where we are today that I've seen.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
So let me jump into this. In one column titled Donald.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Trump gave War a Chance, they say the Trump administration's
demand that any agreement begin with the release of all
remaining hostages seemed less than an achievable goal than a
welcome statement of moral clarity telegraphing the guilt of Hamas
while recognizing the justice of Israel's ongoing Israeli military action,

(01:13:42):
in contrast to the appalling decisions by leaders like Keir
Starmer and Emmanuel Macron to recognize the Palestinian state as
a de facto reward for October seventh. The framing of
Trump's diplomatic push made clear that bad behavior would not
be rewarded, but be punished. But that was just one
part of why we got here. And the second part

(01:14:05):
was is that since I was a kid, I mean
since the nineteen seventies, you guys, I have been forced
when I was a kid, And how I watch voluntarily
these stupid peace summits to Camp David, where everything in
the Middle East up till this point has hinged on
whether or not we can get peace in a Palestinian
state for the Palestinians. Nothing else could happen in the

(01:14:26):
Middle East unless the Palestinians had a Palestinian state and
they could work this out. Everything was contingent on that,
and Donald Trump was like, no, I'm good. And it
started in the last administration when he put together the
Abraham Accords and began a soft diplomacy effort on other
Middle Eastern nations to normalize relations with Israel. And now

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he's using some of those relationships to put pressure on Hamas.
He's doing this completely the opp sit of what has
ever been done before. There's a great column also on
the Free Press by Victor Davis Hansen about the ten
things that Trump did to change the Middle East, and

(01:15:13):
I just didn't want to go through these really quickly.
Number one, he curtailed Iranian oil income. Without Iran to
fund all of these other small, annoying organizations, there is
no war in the Middle East.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
But he didn't stop there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
He also not only allowed Israel to destroy Tehran's air
defenses and eliminate a bunch of its top military officers
and nuclear physicists. They also helped blow up the Iranian
nuclear facility.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
I mean, come on, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Oh, by the way, remember Tucker Carlson said there was
going to be World War three after that happened. Number Two,
Trump allowed Benjamin Netanya, who to destroy Hamas, to cripple HESBLA,
and to retaliate at will against the Huthies. That kind
of put everybody on notice that there was a new
sheriff in town. The rise of Israel and the collapse

(01:16:10):
of Iranian terrist networks or the ring of fire around
Israel explain that that's why a ceasefire was.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Even possible in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Trump leveraged all his his benefactions to Israel by pressuring
it to agree to a ceasefire. Israel did not want
to give a ceasefire because they didn't really have any
thought that they would really get their hostages.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Back in one fell swoop.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
By getting Israel to say, yes, we'll come to the
table and do a ceasefire, that gives a Trump a
little bit of credibility in the Arab world as an
honest broker.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Number four.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Trump used the Abraham Accords in as much maligned tariffs,
along with expanding or curtailing commercial access into US markets
to pressure or persuade the Gulf and moderate Arab states
to ensure funding for Gaza reconstruction and the continue political
weakening of Hamas.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
That is huge, huge, And here's why.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
If the people of the Gaza strip can get help
and rebuilding from other outside Arab influences, they are far
less likely to accept Hamas as a ruling force anymore.
By the way, Hamas has now killed a couple hundred people,
you know, just making sure that the opposition is kind
of kneecapped right away.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Wouldn't that be funny.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
If all of a sudden Israel dragged out all these
Hamas leaders and shot them in the head in the streets.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
What do you think the world's reaction would be? Do
you think then that would be? I mean, that would be.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
But that's what Hamas is doing to anyone perceived to
be the opposition in Gaza, and we don't see.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Any marches so far on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Trump, in carrot and stick fashion promised a defense protection
packed with Cutter, and I don't trust Cutter again. As
far as I can throw them, But now Cutter is
in debt to us, at least on the surface. I
still don't trust him. Trump dealt with enemies, allies and
neutrals from a position of strength, comparative advantage, and national ascendants.

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Compare that to the appeasing of Joe Biden and apologetics
of Barack Obama. Yeah, seriously, number seven. Trump was entirely transactional.
Unlike the Biden administration. He didn't libel the Saudis, demonized
Net and Yahoo, or takes seriously any of the past proverbial,
empty peace plans of a corrupt, un or terrified Europeans.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
He just hit the reset button.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
He had no sooner destroyed Iron's nuclear capability than he
allowed a ceremonial but innocuous hit on a US, Bass
and Katar, and then declared he wanted to make it
run great again. He treats all major parties the same
until he doesn't. Europe went from sandbagging Trump in twenty
seventeen to twenty twenty one to calling him Daddy once

(01:18:58):
they realized that only Trump could save you Ukraine and by.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Extension, Europe from Putin.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
That means that anti American Europe didn't try to intrude
into the Middle peace negotiations or to ankle bite the US.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
There you go, at this eleventh hour number.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Nine, Hamas was reminded that it has no real alternatives,
as the rubble of Gaza attest.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Trump signaled to.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Israel it could and still can go medieval on Hamas
and its remnants should they resume terrorism.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
That's kind of a nice point.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
At number ten, the Middle East was not seen as
a one off US peace effort, as is usually the case. Instead,
it was envisioned as a continuation of a series of
prior successful Trump led ceasefires between Rwanda and Congo, Armenia
and Azerbaijan, India and Pakistan, Kosovo and Serbia, Cambodia and Thailand,

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and Egypt and Ethiopia. The Israelis and the Palestinians saw
Trump's success elsewhere and may have felt from such momentum
that the sale might be possible in Gaza. So there
you go, given Trump what is due, and that is
a whole lot of credit. But I do have to
tell you the other side of the coin, when we

(01:20:12):
get back, how are the protesters who were just worried
about Palestinian genocide. Doing well, as you can imagine, not well,
not well at all. I'll be right back, keep it
on k away. What do you want me to say?
I'm genuinely I'm not being sarcastic. I think it's absurd.

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I think the Democrats have shut down the government and
they have miscalculated greatly, and for the first time ever,
they're being held responsible for it. And the polling date
is terrible, and I feel terrible for the people that
are waiting and not getting a paycheck because of this idiocy.
I would be in favor of a new law that
says when Congress allows the government to shut down, their

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pay is docked for the entire month and they don't
get in back pay.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
I'm in favor of all that. I just what else
do you want me to say?

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
And I'm not meaning to be flippant, And I hope
you're not a laid off employee looking for something here.
But until the Democrats decide that they want to vote
on the cr that includes all the recisions that the
Republicans made, wish is what they campaigned on, there's not
a whole lot to say about the government shutdown.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
You know, I wish they would figure this out. I
truly do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
But this is, you know what is interesting. And I'm
not saying that the Democrats are Hamas.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
I'm not saying that. I'm really not, even though.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
I'm about to say, look at the similarities between the
way they are behaving. Hamas doesn't care about the Palestinian people.
Hamas only cares about power. And for some reason, the
Democrats have decided this is the hill that they are
going to die on, and that they are going to
let people twist in the wind with their livelihoods because
somehow they think this has some kind of political benefit,

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much like Amas.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
I mean, I'm not saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
The Democrats are dragging people out of their hopes in
the streets.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
No, They're not doing that. Yet.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Let me finish up this a ostak for just a second, though.
You got to hear what the pro Palestinian activists have
responded to the ceasefire with Irish actress and star of
Disney's and Or Denise Go summed up the disappointment over
the weekend at a demonstration in London. She said, a
ceasefire isn't liberation, a ceasefire isn't free Palestine. And also

(01:22:33):
it feels like it was made without any Palestinian voices.
I would love to be as celebratory as the Palestinian
people are themselves in Gaza, and I believe that they
must be encouraged and allowed to celebrate, of course, but
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
Think it's a time for us to celebrate.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
Iriship hop trio Kneecap, whose waves to hes bull of
flags on stage and whose lead lyricists ranted about the
Israeli lobbies, offers efforts to ruin his career, posted on
x this isn't a peace deal, It's a further dehumanization
and oppression.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
Watching the people.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Who've been running around talking about how they just care
about the Palestinian people and they just care about genocide, and.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
They just care about people getting killed, and don't you care?
Don't you care?

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Well, to them, I would say, don't you care about
the people that Amas is dragging out of their homes,
circling up in the town square and shooting in the head.
Don't you care about those people? Nope, they don't. They
truly truly don't. And you know the old saying, like

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you can open your mouth or you can keep your
mouth closed. And let people think you're an idiot, or
you can open and improve it. The Democratic Socialists of
America decided to open theirs improve it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
This is a letter that they sent out.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Earlier this weeks the Palestinian Resistance announce the deceased fire
agreement has been reached and would entail the end of
this intensified stage of the genocide. This will not end
Israel's assault on the Palestinian people or the theft in
occupation of Palestinian.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Lands, blah blah, blah blah blah. But you know what
it did do. It ended the fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
It's almost like Israel was just fighting to get their
hostages back.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
Huh hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Certainly does look that way, and it certainly does undermine
this genocide business, doesn't it. That's just a point I
was trying to make there. Mandy Ralph said, I've not
noticed anything with the government shut down.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Yeah, me either.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Dave Logan and Scott Hastings says this Texter he used
to do alloween special where they would let where they would.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Tell true scary stories and people would call in, and
we thought of doing that again. Do you have any
scary stories, ey Ron?

Speaker 5 (01:24:55):
I mean multiple, many several, that's one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
We did the Haunted media tour at the Stanley Hotel,
no one else except for a few of us and
the tour guide and the side like concert hall house.
As we're walking up to it, there was blood walked
up to the door, which was very strange nice, and
then we had a giant, crazy looking massive shadow standing

(01:25:25):
in the doorway that all of us consecutively saw, and
doors closed and slammed on us. And uh and yeah,
the Stanley Hotel definitely haunted one percent.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Yeah, all right, maybe we'll do that on Halloween. I
don't know, you have to wait and see. Do it
all right, let's do this with a quick time out.
When we get back. I've got a bunch of this
and that, but I also want to do and ask
me anything because I'm off the rest of the week.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
So get your get your your text and fingers ready.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Text us five six six nine zero half hour of
ask me anything coming up next on KOA Ask me
anything on the text line text any question about it
an thing?

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Five six six nine, Oh do it now, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
When opening a bottle of champagne, twists the bottle or cork.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Have fun in Ohio, what are you some kind of amateur?

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
You always twist the bottle, Always twist the bottle, Mandy.
I love hearing about your listener trips, even though my
husband and I have not been able to join any
of them so far. They're definitely on my bucket list,
and I'm wondering if you would ever consider going to
Jerusalem and Israel. Thanks Jen, one hundred percent. I would
love to do that as a listener trip because I

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gotta tell you, it was so magical going there, and
we didn't do a lot of the tourist stuff because
we spent a lot of time. We went to a wedding,
and we spent a lot of time with family, so
we didn't do a lot of tourist stuff. So there's
a lot of things there I still want to see,
but I don't know when that'll be. Things have to
stabilize because honestly, we have to be able to sell
the trip, and if people are too nervous then it

(01:26:52):
doesn't really matter.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Right anyway, Hi, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
My wife and I got into Rocky Mountain Nash Park
for free a week ago with the shutdown going on.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
That was nice.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
I completely expect that Hamas will break some part of
the treaty very soon, and I just hope Israel wipes
them out after that. Fun fact, they've already broken the
ceasefire agreement. They have not released all the bodies of
the dead hostages, which was part of the ceasefire agreement,
and Israel says if they don't release them by Thursday,
then they're gonna shut the border again. So we'll see

(01:27:24):
what happens there, Mandy, I would like your assessment of
President Trump. I'm starting to think he is the greatest
president we have had in our history. The number of
wars he has stopped, controlling our borders to a trickle
of legal immigrants, cleaning up the mess of the Biden administration,
tax reform, defining men as men and women as women,
and keeping men from playing women's sports, blowing up the

(01:27:44):
woke agenda, blowing up the green agenda. I can go
on and on, and we're only one year in, and
I think once people get past their Trump arrangement syndrome
and just look at this guy's accomplishment, surrounded by an
all star cabinet, well we are in historic times. Yes,
he's a New York but he gets things done. And
I can get past the nasty tweets. This guy is

(01:28:04):
something special and I believe God had plans for him
when that bullet barely missed him, barely missed killing him.
Just my thoughts. I also, oh, dang it it updated.
I also believe he's a change man. Okay, there's a
lot too unpacked there. Okay, so let's start with foreign policy,
because that's where Donald Trump has shined.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
In the most unexpected ways. If you had told me last.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Year, even Mandy, you're gonna You're gonna walk away from
this singing that Trump is the greatest foreign policy president
you've had your lifetime, and I would have been like no.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
And now I'm like, yes, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
What he's done to foreign policies upended the status quo
and it's been so effective.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
And for anyone on the left who will sit there and.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Say, oh, I got the world hates haze, these cuts,
all of these world leaders, they just hate Donald Trump. Well,
guess what, they were all lined up behind him in
Egypt yesterday, weren't they.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Foreign policy wise, he is a chef's kiss every day.
I'm excited to see what's going to happen next. Domestically, economically,
I have concerns, a lot of concerns. I love the
tax cuts, but I don't like the fact that we
are still spending way, way, way, way way too much,

(01:29:26):
way too much, okay, and our spending is unsustainable and
our debt will destroy us.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
And I don't see enough.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
Or any really any real vigor when it comes to
cutting spending in a significantly meaningful way. And that is
something that has to happen, and people don't want to
talk about that because you think people are freaking out
about a shutdown. People in a smaller government, there will
be jobs lost. I don't like the fact he's buying
American companies. I think that's terrible. And I don't mean Trump,

(01:29:58):
I mean the United States government and is now a
part owner of several major organizations.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
And I do not like that at all, not even
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
So yeah, I just this Texter said, all star cabinet,
what a friggin' laugh. You know what, before they all
got hit the ground running, I would have agreed with you.
But all of the people in this cabinet are way
better than the first round go round where he tried
to put business people into all these roles and they
found out they couldn't do anything because the bureaucracy was
mobilized against Trump. There's a big difference between Trump two

(01:30:34):
point zero and Trump one point zero when it comes
to things like running the government. Is they came in
with so much, so fast and so hard that the
bureaucracy of DC was completely off guard, completely off guard,
And we're not able to foment the same kind of
coherent response to Trump one point zero as they were.

(01:30:58):
So there are things that are really like on the
social stuff that you mentioned, you know, men being men,
it's absurd to me that we have to actually have
someone say that with authority. It's the craziest thing I've
ever heard that we're even having the conversation about it.
I mean, it's just seriously, no, no, so I you know,

(01:31:18):
it's it is a mixed bag for me. I still
have a lot of concerns about about the day to
day operation tariffs.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
What are tariffs going to continue to do because.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
We don't have a strong enough economy to withstand a
big hit on home building and things of that nature.
Just as the mortgage market is coming down, you're going
to make everything to build a house more expensive. A
lot of stuff I have questions about like a lot,
so all in all a mixed bag. Some things like
the foreign policy I absolutely love, unabashably love it. And

(01:31:51):
for people that can't give Donald Trump credit, you really
need to look inside about about your own issues there,
because there's no doubt that the has changed foreign policy
forever in my view.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
So anyway, that's my assessment. I hope you enjoyed that. Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
I'm not sure if you have this on the blog,
but today is the first Charlie kirk national holiday.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
It's not a national it's a memorial.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
I don't know what it is exactly, but I do
know that he was getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom
posthumously today from the President. Mandy, which of our governor
candidates will finally fix the highways?

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
I vote Kirkmeyer.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
She's the only one that's driven them. I'm not sure
Wiser Bennett has been in the car that doesn't have
a driver.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
You might be right. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
But the reality is is that we're about to have
a very very very robust Republican primary. So pay attention, Mandy.
Be sure to eat some hearty meals at Crackerbarrel while
in Ohio. It's good darn tutin. Cracker barrels are better
there than here.

Speaker 6 (01:32:49):
Yet.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
We're going to cracker Barrel. It's starting on the list.
We're also going to the Circleville Pumpkins Show.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
We're doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Oh, it's going to be a high time. Follow me
on Instagram and I'll post some stuff on Instagram from Mandy.
Have you explored any of the genetic health marker programs?
In a previous show, you stated you were looking into some.
Thanks for sharing. I have, but I can't find exactly
what I want, So I am waiting a little bit
on those. I will be doing that testing at some

(01:33:16):
point one hundred percent. There's no doubt in my mind.
I just have not found the one that I am
going to do. Mandy is still someone I still know,
someone who is denying October seventh happened. Where can I
see the real footage to show them? There is nothing
unseen on x uh. I'm just gonna say this as
nicely as possible. Unless you're married to them or blood

(01:33:40):
related to them, you do not need someone like that
in your life.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
Your life will be much happier if you just move on. Mandy.
I want my wife to get that vampire facial. How
much is that?

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
I don't know because it's always bundled with other stuff
that I do. But if you call regate revolution three
three two nine two ninety nine ninety two, just ask him,
and there's twenty percent off this month, So do it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Mandy, random question. Are you still in contact with Dave Lower? Curious?
What's he up to these days?

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
I hope you wouldn't take offense to this, but after
my grandfather died, listening to Dave on your show was
therapeutic to me. Just the cadence of his voice and
his demeanor were just like my grandfather.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Would you ever have him on.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
A show as a guest? One hundred percent? And I
have asked him and he says no, So yeah, he
says no.

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
He's very very happy though.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Last time we spoke, he is listening to classical music
all day, reading his entire library of classic works.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
He's just having a wonderful retirement. But I'll ask him again.
I'll let him know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
You specifically asked Mandy, what is fall break? I don't
remember that one Class of seventy nine, Class of eighty
seven here me either, but it's a thing now. Bernie's
Mountain dogs are better than Saint Bernard's thoughts. That is
a blatant falsehood. And if you continue to put that
kind of hate speech on my text line, I will
block you Texter test test Hi, Mandy, hope you go

(01:35:11):
to the stupid Land and stay in Palestine occupied territories
and enjoy all the freedoms that oppressions provide.

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
See, I've already been there, so I've already seen the
parts of Israel that are Arab.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
Controlled, so I already know what to expect. Mandy. I'd
love to go on your next group celebrity cruise. Anything
in the works. Well, we do have another trip planned.
It is not on celebrity.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
It is on a riverboat cruise line called Emerald and
they are outstanding and we're doing the castles of the
Rhine Rivers, starting in Switzerland and sailing west on the
Rhine River through Germany. We're going to stop in Strasbourg,
We're going to stop in Rotterdam. We're going to stop
then at the end in Amsterdam. It is going to

(01:35:57):
be amazing and we're relieving in just under one year
from today. Find out more at Mandyconnelltrip dot com Mandy,
I continue to listen from my home on Kawhi you
coming on eight am? How's that Jinx pup? She's fat,
she's sassy. She just had her senior wellness appointment. Yeah,

(01:36:20):
because she's seven now, so she's a senior doggie now.
Because she's a big dog. She's a big cuddlebug. She's
the best dog ever.

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
The bullet was fake, just as grosy o donut. Nah, Mandy,
I must be an amateur because I always twist the cork.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
However, I can pop it with no spills.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Always twist the bottle ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
And I know I'm accurate because when I was a
flight attendant in order to be on the international first
class service, and I always liked working first class better.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
It was a harder, more complex service. But I mean,
come on, why wouldn't you?

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
And we had all this intensive training on how to
do things like order, you know, open champagne bottles. Anyway,
Mandy answered a Trump question. People who truly hate Trump
will continue to hate him even if he walks on water. Hi, Mandy,
will you enjoy a cocktail on the plane or a
diet coke?

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Number one?

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
I don't drink diet coke because gives me horrific heartburn.
Anything with aspartame just gives me horrible heartburn. I don't know,
I'm I I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
Probably just water. I know it's not very exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Mandy, what are your thoughts on the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories?
Israel really killed him with a trans lover? No, just no, Mandy,
try West, tricare West is not paying the doctors.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
This could be a problem for us. It most certainly
will Mandy. Who do you miss most in the studio?
Who has left? Mike? Mitch Darnell? Who's Darnell?

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
Mandy? Are you wearing red?

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
I am not as of now. Oh, do you think
Vance has a chance to be president? Who do you
think he will run against? That's a big, big question.
He has as much a chance as any vice president
right now. But I got to tell you that man
handles the media better than any Republican I have ever seen,
including Donald Trump. He's going to be a formidable foe,

(01:38:22):
a big time formidable foe. And I have no idea
who is going to rise to the top on the left.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
We'll just have to wait.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Mandy is there a new cars for kids, ad running
on the brakes. Sounded like the kids singing grew a
few years, but it's still ear splitting.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (01:38:40):
I heard it too. I heard it too. I just
heard it too. Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Do you have any insight on mayor candidates in Fort Collins?
We have ranke choice voting and I can't find any
candidate declaring party affiliation.

Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
I got nothing for you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
I am struggling trying to get school board information. Guys,
it's just really, really hard.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Can you shout out to my beautiful wife, Maggie Street.
She's the best thing to ever happen to me. I
absolutely can. I don't know what you did, sir, but
there you go. My only close living relative hates Trump,
hates Israel, and hates the USA.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
It's my brother. I don't want to totally cut him
out of my life. So what do I do? You
can just ask him to talk about things that are
not politics. Just ask you never know, you know, some
people can make it work, some people can't. Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
How do you feel about Cincinnati Chili? It is disgusting
and an abomination and should be stopped. Mandy, I finally
got my toddler to brush your own teeth and not
cry about it. I feel accomplished, you know what. Good
on you, parent person.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
Good on you those little victories, those little things that
you get.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
Your toddler to accomplish by themselves. Let me give you
a pro tip about this, toddler. Every single time you
do laundry, have the toddler fold the washcloths and the handhels.
Start the toddler early and every night before toddler goes
to bed. Last thing you do is pick up all
the toys in toddler's room and put them all away.
Dress me my sixteen year old child. Right now, if

(01:40:20):
I walk into her bedroom, it is completely clean.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
I know, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
Mandy?

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Are you gonna go to bob Evans in Ohio? Know
the bob Evans near Us closed? Devastated? Last question, Mandy,
are you gonna smoke a fatty on your trip to Amsterdam?

Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
Eh?

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
You know? I mean? Can you smoke a fatty on
your trip? I don't know. Is that a thing? I
have no idea, no clue. What do you think I
rob fatty on the way to Amsterdam?

Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
Yeah? You know, Uh, not for me?

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
But go for it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:52):
Mandy.

Speaker 6 (01:40:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Could you imagine that news story Mandy Connell arrested for
smoking a fatty and on the trip on me.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
No, I'm not going to do that. Oh this is
my favorite text.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
If you're running at Mike Bartholomew in Circleville, tell him
I said, Hey, I sure will, Texter, I sure will.
And now it's time or the most exciting segment on.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
The radio of its kind in the world of the day.
All right, what is our dad joke of the day? Please, Anthony.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
I've often heard that icy is the easiest word to spell.
Looking at it now I see why. Oh God, yeah, yep,
the better.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
What is our What is our word of the day?

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
It is an adverb al desco alkale space d e
s ko al desco.

Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
I love this.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Doesn't it mean like isn't that like a warm hug
or something or or something that makes you feel cozy?

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
No, Ryan, think literally, al desco.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
I'm still it's eating at your desk, al desco.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
That's really funnymb oh, that's very funny, dumb. I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Where in the United States can you find the Bunny Museum,
home to a massive collection of rabbit related art, memorabilia
and curiosity.

Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
Sounds like a Nebraska thing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
What where did you say?

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
Ryotark?

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
I mean it would make sense, but it's not right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
I got been sitting next to me, so I got
a chance to throw a.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Dig There Alta, Dina, California. The Bunny Museum brands itself
as the happiest place on Earth?

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
There, Ben, are you for Jeopardy? Ben?

Speaker 5 (01:42:51):
You want to do Jeopardy with us? Jeopardy music going
to wait for Ben's rival.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
I've been watching Jeopardy this week, like the Who this
week and last.

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
I'm always watching Jeopardy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
Mist people ever on Jeopardy right now, dumbest people ever.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
They're all terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:43:09):
Okay, they're not as dumb as the people on Love
is Blad Denver right now? Anyway, the category it's the
worst season I've ever watched, makes Deedinver look bad. You're
all terrible people, if any of you are listening. Uh,
the category today is supers. In this nineteen eighty six
video game, Luigi is Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:43:30):
What is the Super Mario Brothers?

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
Correct? This person is in charge of repairs and maintenance at.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Ben.

Speaker 5 (01:43:38):
Uh, that's what is the Super?

Speaker 9 (01:43:40):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Wrong?

Speaker 9 (01:43:41):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
Wait, hold on now which one do you hold on?
I don't know because all y'all said Ryan, we'ren Ryan.
What is the superintendent correct twelve letter word meaning pertaining
to the eerie or occult?

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
Then be what a supernatural?

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
Correct? Moon? Though in grammar it's the highest degree of comparison.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
What's the superlative that is?

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
Aboard three for Ben? One for me?

Speaker 5 (01:44:10):
Supert?

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
No, you're right? Wait a minute, no, Ben, still one.

Speaker 5 (01:44:18):
Pure water can remain liquid below the freezing point because
there are no impurities to form ice crystals around. It's
a phenomenon called this. This motion causes bubbles, allowing the
water to crystallize. Super blank, super distill.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Wrong, dang it?

Speaker 5 (01:44:42):
What is super cooling winds?

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
Ben? Ben wins?

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
Well done, Ben, well done? This textter the Bunny Museum
is probably hair raising. Yes, r E get out exactly
what's coming up on k Sports? Because I'm I'm out
of here. I'll be back on Monday, listeners. Have a
great weekend, great weekend? Now what is coming up on
KOA Sports?

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
We're gonna have some fun.

Speaker 5 (01:45:07):
We got Ben and studio here. We'll obviously continue to
chop up the Broncos winning streak.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Went wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
With the offense. Garret Bole's gonna be on the show,
Shelby Harris. We'll have a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
Amen to that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
That's all coming up next and again, I won't be
back until Monday. But Jimmy sanging Berger will.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
Take good care of you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
Even the guy who hates the harmonica and says that
you play too much blues music on the show a
Rod When Jimmy's here, I'm just saying, I'm just telling you,
I'm just reporting what is coming from the text line.
I'm not here to bust anybody's chops.

Speaker 4 (01:45:34):
I'm just letting you know. Anyway, keep it right here
on Kiawa