10-16-25 FULL SHOW - Jimmy Sengenberger Fills in For Mandy with Mayor Mike Coffman and Roshini Rajkumar

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:38):
calls it, the bat signal for yours truly, Jimmy Sangenberger,
once again in the saddle here.

Speaker 6 (00:45):
On KOA and for Mandy.

Speaker 7 (00:49):
Good to be with you, proven along to kick things
off with so much yet again to discuss and dive into,
and all the while bluesify your afternoon.

Speaker 6 (01:08):
So good to be with you.

Speaker 7 (01:09):
A Rod behind the glass extraordinaire once again. Hey, Ay, Rod,
I gotta ask you real quick before we get rolling
with the shell. What's up? What did you think of
Star Wars theory? In my conversation with the YouTuber yesterday,
I thought it was fantastic? Couldn't God enough of it?

Speaker 8 (01:26):
Bring on the nerdiness, Bring on the feries, bring on
the breakdown, Bring on both of your terrible terrible, terrible,
terrible hatred of actually decent show acolyte.

Speaker 7 (01:35):
But hey, it's okay. You have been deceeen by the
duck sight novols. You guys are the sith on this one,
but it's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:44):
See, the Acolyte was supposed to be about the dark Siders,
so that makes you the Sith. Yeah, whatever makes you
feel better, whatever makes you know what a rod it
is your job to make me feel better when I
am here as the host.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Behind my card dead wrong. Nah, you know.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
The unfortunate thing is you're so dead wrong even Disney
canceled the show and decided not to do another season.
Looking back now, I will say I disagree with him
on Rogue one and that Star Wars needs to be
about Jedi and lightsabers. That's the most beautiful Star Wars
movie period. Visually, I think it is phenomenal. It is
well acted. It's set up for the best Star Wars

(02:23):
TV show ever made. In and Or with its two seasons,
which he also doesn't like most of and Andor, but yeah,
does like this. The second half of the second season
was so good. He had to admit this is some
of the best Star Wars and by the way, he
didn't have any lightsabers. But not it's to rag on
my friend star Wars theory because I love the conversation,

(02:46):
especially his points about the prequel trilogy and the acting
and how he was explaining what George Lucas was going
for with Haten Christiansen and actually adds some context and
color to understanding what was going on on of what
he was actually achieving with that performance and other aspects
of the original trilogy and the storytelling and all of that.

(03:11):
I mean, I just couldn't get enough. The problem is
we didn't have enough time, because then we could have
gotten into what is Star Wars and what are the
great things about with Lightsabers and all of that.

Speaker 8 (03:22):
A Rod, Yes, I mean I don't mind it not
having lightsabers and all this stuff that Rogue one offers,
But I mean we talked so positively about the prequels.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Man prequel hate is unacceptable, unacceptable. I love that the
actors like Hayden Christiansen and you and McGregor are getting
the love from that prequel trilogy era. If you missed it,
it was a great conversation, really cool. A Rod kind
enough to pull out that interview and post it as

(03:55):
its own podcast Mandy's blog dot com, So check it out.
What a great conversation. Really really enjoy He's a great
guy too, He really is just genuine, not just Star
Wars fan, but a person, and I love that with
somebody who is pursuing something like this and can get

(04:17):
into controversy and stuff like the authenticity matters a lot,
that's for sure. Once again, Jimmy Sangenberger in for Mandy
Connell today. Of course, the text line five sixty six
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website Jimmy Sangenberger dot com. Remember there's no AI or

(04:40):
you in Sangenburger. It's all ease all the time. Once
you know that Sangenberger is easy. Thank you a Rod
and the enthusiasm and the energy there, I just it's
really powering me forward for this after noon. Now, if

(05:02):
you missed it, Ryan Schulling was in for Ross Kaminsky
this morning and he interviewed Senator Ted Cruz and there
are a couple of clips I got here from his
interview with the Senator from Texas.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
Where he talks about the government shut.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
Down and particularly the politics of Chuck Schumer. And I
think this is very important. Let's take a listen.

Speaker 9 (05:27):
Back in March when we had the last expiration of
government funding the Democrats actually worked in a bipartisan manner
with Republicans and we kept the government open and Schumer
almost lost his job.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Schumer almost lost his job.

Speaker 7 (05:42):
Well, you could see that and the conversations and the
way everything was going. Rank and file Democrats in the
Senate as well as over in the House were really
ticked off and putting on the pressure, especially because his
left flame is pushing, pushing, pushing for more left wing goodies.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
Chuck Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and he
sees AOC breathing down his neck, getting ready to primary him.
And the reason the government shut down today is Schumer
is trying to prove to the crazy radicals that he
hates Donald Trump as much as they do.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Now.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
I'm originally from upstate New York. It's where I was born.
We'd go back there every year as a child after
we moved to Colorado when I was ten. And to
see this happen to this state, my home, original home state,
with a lot of family there, including my grandparents, is heartbreaking.

(06:43):
It's absolutely heartbreaking. And you know what's happening in New
York City, within New York State, all together with Mom Donnie,
who we will talk about today is just I mean,
the notion that he will be there, and I think
odds are he will be. And he's extremely articulate and

(07:05):
compelling at breaking down what is well, not breaking down,
but spinning, spinning what is socialism through and through? Kind
of gave a masterclass last night on Fox News about
exactly that. But let's hold on, Donnie and stick with
Congress and the shutdowns, because it's not just Chuck Schumer

(07:30):
in the Senate who's worried about his left flank. The
same thing goes with Jakim Jeffries, so Jason Crowe. Of course,
Hakim Jeffries is the Democrat leader in the House, and
Jason Crowe is the congressman for Colorado's sixth congressional district.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
And on CNN a few days ago.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
He was asked about the willingness of Democrats to sit
down and negotiate to resolve government shut down. There's no discussion.
They've completely shut the door to us.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
We remain ready and willing to.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
Negotiate a bipartisan result to this, which is the only
way we ever pass funding bills and keep the government open.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
But they've closed the door.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
They've closed the door. Really, they've closed the door. Let's
listen to HAKEM Jeffries. I think this is from over
the weekend, maybe on Sunday or it was Monday.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
I've had the clip all week. What can I say?

Speaker 7 (08:31):
And Hakeem Jeffries again the Democrat leader in the House,
really dodging the question about meeting with Speaker Johnson.

Speaker 10 (08:38):
I think we're always ready and willing and able to
have a good faith discussion with our colleagues on the
other side of the aisle to entertain any ideas that
they may put forth with respect to both reopening the
government and of course, decisively addressing the Republican healthcare crisis.
The problem that we confront Dan is that Republicans have

(08:59):
gone radio silce in since the shutdown began. No conversations,
no meetings, no discussions. Donald Trump has held them back
from even having a meaningful engagement to try to find.

Speaker 11 (09:11):
You're right down the hall from Mike Johnson's office.

Speaker 10 (09:14):
I know exactly where you are.

Speaker 12 (09:15):
You could probably take.

Speaker 11 (09:16):
A few steps and go knock on the door and
talk to him.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
Have you tried that?

Speaker 10 (09:20):
H Speaker Johnson hasn't been given permission to have a
conversation with me or Lida Schumer, and he said as
much earlier today, So you don't.

Speaker 13 (09:28):
Think he would talk to you at all.

Speaker 10 (09:30):
We can have a conversation, but the problem is that
until they get the green light to actually have a
meaningful discussion to try to find common ground and a
bipartisan path forward and a willingness to address the damage
that Republicans have done to the health, the safety, and
the economic well being of the American people, then of
course any informal discussion is going to be not foulful.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
Ah See, Republicans, Speaker Johnson, they're the only ones who
don't have the green light to negotiate, not the Democrats.
It's not the left flank that is putting pressure and
has been putting pressure on their base or rather their

(10:13):
elected representatives in Congress to hold the line on their issues.
I mean, you have in Congress people who like Jason
Crow will say, oh, we need to negotiate, but doesn't
actually engage himself. Hakeem Jeffries dodging the question and saying

(10:36):
it's Republicans that don't have the green light to negotiate,
and he's not even willing to, just like Dana Bash said,
walk over, say hi, and have an informal conversation. What
can we do to reach a guilt? That's how a
lot of these things begin. We remember in the nineteen
eighties you had President Reagan and tipp Onnee and they

(11:00):
had a good working relationship on Neil course, the Speaker
of the House enough to get over a beer and
hash things out. Now we're not talking about the president
in this case. We're looking at negotiations with the Speaker
of the House is a Republican. So it's the Republican
speaker and the Republican or the Democrat minority leader. They
can't just get together and have a conversation. Why not?

(11:24):
It's absurd. But then again, you know what's coming from
the left wing plank blank exactly as Ted Cruz said.

Speaker 9 (11:34):
Chuck Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and he
sees aoc breathing down his neck, getting ready to primary him.
And the reason the government shut down today is Schumer
is trying to prove to the crazy radicals that he
hates Donald Trump as much as they do.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Now.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Of course, there's some spin in terms of simply blaming
the Democrats and Schumer, although I would argue that the
Democrats are the primary drivers of this particular government shutdown,
But both sides have blame, of course, because it takes
compromise of some sort to.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Get something like this sewed up.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
But let's underscore the kind of radicalism that he's talking
about in Alexandria Acossio Cortes, who's all over the place.
In fact, last night on CNN she did a town
hall with Bernie Sanders because they've been going around the
country doing their oligarchs thing, flying around in a private jet,

(12:36):
because that's what you do when you're a socialist who's
number one issue or one of them is climate change,
so you fly around in a private jet to go
do your complaining about the oligarchs. Well, we have this story,
very disgusting. You've probably seen it about the National Federation

(12:58):
of Young Republicans and the texts of leaders from a
few of those states that were vile and vulgar, from
I Love Hitler and other anti semitic empithets to racial comments,
just disgusting stuff, and of course it resoundingly deserves to

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be condemned.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Unfortunately, JD.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
Vance, the Vice President, brushed it off yesterday and said
these are kids.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
No senator or Vice president Dvance.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
These are people who are not much younger than you,
between the ages of twenty four and thirty five. He's
thirty eight. I think I'm thirty five. So those people
in the text have no excuses, not as kids. Good Lord,
you say this kind of stuff, and you want to

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be taken seriously in politics, you got problems. Of course,
the Democrats want to focus all on that and brush
off Jay Jones, the attorney general candidate in Virginia who
said much worse things and including texts about killing and

(14:12):
the death of kids of political opponents, like absolutely stunning,
and the Democrats have been silent. Abigail what Spang Spenberger,
the gubernatorial candidate in Virginia, literally taken to task in
gubernatorial debate by Win Some Seers, the Republican lieutenant governor

(14:35):
running for governor, over that, and literally when you see
the video and there's a phenomenal campaign ad about this too,
she's just Spanberger is just standing there, just like looking
out into the ether, as though she's not even being
talked to, as Win some Seers is saying, look, are

(14:58):
you gonna condemn this?

Speaker 6 (14:59):
What's going on? Why aren't you saying anything about this.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
That is not to excuse what those young Republicans that
that's disgusting needs to be resoundingly condemned. But come on,
let's do both, especially the one who actually wants to
be an attorney general of a state and talked about
being glad if somebody dies.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
But back to AOC.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
In this.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
Town hall with Bernie Sanders at CNN last night, AOC
talked about the young Republicans and had a hell of
a way of framing it all.

Speaker 13 (15:40):
When they talk about Republicans and their success online, they
have been successful because they have also been very clear,
especially digitally, about what they believe. That women are inferior,
that do not and they do not deserve equal rights.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
Wow, that they believe that.

Speaker 13 (15:58):
LGBTQ Americans are subhuman. That they believe and are circulating
disgusting racial and and white supremacist messaging that they are
able to get away with digitally and online.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
Wait a second, AOC, you are casting a broadbrush and
saying that this group of young Republicans represents all Republicans. Now,
Vance may not have condemned it and brushed it off,
which was disappointing, and he should have been stronger.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
But someone like at least Stephonic.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
Has condemned it, and numerous other prominent Republicans. Most have
condemned it and said no, this is unacceptable, and she's
casting that brush and say, well, this is all Republicans.
They're so hateful and using the most vindictive terminology about them.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
Let's continue when.

Speaker 13 (16:58):
They talk about Republicans and their success. And they are
able to radicalize and target and exploit a generation of
young boys in particular away from healthy masculinity and into
an insecure masculinity that requires the domination of others who

(17:21):
are poorer, browner, darker, or a different gender than them.
And that is why they are resonating online, because they
are appealing to the most basest and worst parts of
human nature to divide us.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
There are some who are doing that, just as there
are some on the left to do that. I mean,
think about all the rhetor coming from AOC's buddies about
Israeli genocide, a blood libel applied to Israel.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
In the modern day.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
Over something that was completely disproven this week. Last week
with the end of the war in Gaza and the
release of a couple thousand somewhere around there Palestinian prisoners
taken after October seventh during that war, at the time

(18:18):
that twenty Israeli hostages who are alive were finally released,
while forty eight dead are still in the process of
being recovered and returned. So let's talk about some of
the disgusting rhetoric from the left. But the broad brushes

(18:38):
she's painting here is absolutely stunning. But what's even more
stunning and absurd is the explanation she gives for why
this is supposedly the case.

Speaker 13 (18:50):
And why to divide us so that the same people
who own those platforms, people like Elon Musk, Peter teel
Mark Zuckerberg, that these people can continue to get away
with highway robbery in tax cuts and in order to
lease all of our pockets, cut our healthcare, keep our

(19:13):
wages low so that they can so that we remain
fighting amongst ourselves while they make themselves richer. And so
in order for us to fight back against that, we
must be clear about what we believe, have strong beliefs,
and also be completely unwilling to bow to that kind

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of division and stand in solidarity with one another, especially
when it is someone whose culture is different from ours,
or whose background we may not entirely understand, but that
we honor, love, and see as our fellow Americans.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
So Republicans are cultivating the most base hatreds. Every Republican
is just following that line of thinking. And it's also
that the billionaires can line their pockets.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
To get tax cut.

Speaker 7 (20:02):
This is insane, and it's coming from a woman who
could become the next United States Senator from New York State.
No wonder Chuck Schumer is feeling pressure from the left.
When you have this kind of insanity coming from that

(20:26):
influencer of AOC, it's just you just can't make this
stuff up. We're just getting started. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling
in for Mandy Connell. Keep it right here on KOA.
We were talking about Jay Jones, the candidate for Attorney General,
and the young Republicans grew of leaders in three states

(20:55):
age twenty four to thirty five or their bouts is
sort of the s admit as to or that said
some of the worst things condemnable, just absolutely terrible, hateful,
anti Semitic and racist comments that are.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Quite frankly, deeply disturbing.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
And then you have the comments, specifically from j Jones,
who suggested a former House speaker should receive two bullets
to the head, talked about his kids. It's just disgusting,
vile text messages, and Jones is suffering as a result

(21:50):
of it. A listener text coming in says J Jones
is one person and should be condemned. The young Republicans
are many, true, but j Jones is the one who's
running for attorney general. He's the one who could be

(22:11):
the chief law enforcement officer of the state of Virginia.
He's the guy who is in a position of real,
meaningful influence. Whereas it varies among these the young Republicans,
now they need to be condemned. But for the left

(22:32):
to pretty much ignore as their gubernatorial candidate Democratic gubernatorial
candidate has ignored what j Jones said was just is
beyond the pale, which is why most Republicans are condemning
the young Republicans, but so many Democrats are not doing

(22:57):
the same.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Of the.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
Jay Jones comments, I don't get it, span Berger, the
gubernatorial candidate embarrassed in the debate. I mean, you're right,
there are more Republicans who are on that text chain,
but we're talking here about the Interney Attorney general candidate

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who wished harm to a Republican rivals children. Now the
text coming in listening to AOC is like nails on
a chalkboard. Of course, she mischaracterizes young white males turning
from her party as racist, chauvin in Ista, homophobic, etc.

(23:49):
What does she expect when her party is constantly blaming
that group for everything wrong in the country and the world. Yeah,
they're going to turn away from the Left and some
of them, sure, some of them we sawt in the
text messages are going to be racist or say racist things,
or sexist things or otherwise. But she's casting a broad
brush that is unfair and unreasonable. Jimmy is aoc an idiot,

(24:14):
evil or both. The pie isn't fixed in its size.
And why would the oligarchs want to keep people poor?
No one would be able to pay for the oligarchs
goods and services that should be more obvious, but not
when they're fed divisive class warfare rhetoric from those grifters. Okay,
I don't think she is evil. I think she is

(24:36):
deeply misguided and fundamentally wrong and has no business being
in the United States. Senate for sure. But you're right,
you're hitting on a point. It's so important. The pie
is not fixed in its size. But that's the left
wing view. It is a zero sum game. Somebody gets richer,

(25:00):
or you have billionaires in the world, which at one
point at least she said, should be illegal. Well, then
that means that a whole slew of other people are
losing out, which is not true. The job opportunities, the
lower cost products, the list goes on for things that
happened because you have billionaires and other wealthy people in

(25:25):
the world making the investments, taking the risks with their
capital to make things happen. But the left brings on
par excellence, the class warfare rhetoric. I mean, that's what
we heard last night on Fox News where soron Mum
Donnie spoke to Martha McCallum on Fox and he really

(25:52):
laid on thick his whole agenda of class warfare.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Here's one example, what would you cut?

Speaker 11 (26:00):
What would you draw from to do it?

Speaker 7 (26:02):
I don't think we have to cut.

Speaker 14 (26:03):
I've talken about raising taxes on the wealthiest, and frankly,
this is an issue that we have here in New
York City and frankly, even across this country. When I've
spoken to Trump voters right here in New York City,
Hillside Avenue in queens Fordham Road, in the Bronx, They've
told me it was cost of living that drove them
to vote for Donald Trump. They've told me it was
a promise of a lower actual, whether it be cheaper groceries,

(26:24):
whether it be childcare, whether.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
It be rent.

Speaker 14 (26:26):
And what we're seeing time and time again is we're
more focused on the question of billionaires and the most
profitable corporations than we are on people who can't even
afford to make ends meet in the city.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
The class warfare rhetoric right there, but presented in a
way that's approachable, that's friendly. He's your friendly neighborhood socialist
too well. Even praise New York City when asked about
it being a capitalist city of the world.

Speaker 11 (26:53):
Last night, I ate chat gpt'd where is the capitalist
and global finance center of the world, and it said
New York City, which made me feel good as someone
who loves New York City. Is that a moniker that
you're proud of and one that you want to continue
for this city?

Speaker 7 (27:09):
We should be proud of it.

Speaker 14 (27:10):
And I will also say that that's one thing you
have in common with Andrew Cuomo, because he also use
the chat GPT to answer many questions, including how to
actually resolve the housing crisis in the city.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
And it's time that.

Speaker 14 (27:19):
We are not only proud of us being the financial capital,
the cultural capital, but also we should make it a
capital of where working people can afford to live in
this city because right now, what we're seeing is that
one in four New Yorkers are being priced out of
the wealthiest city in the wealthiest country in the history.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
Of That's great, but so many New Yorkers are being
priced out, and it are by the way, wing wing
nudge nudge is actually the capitalist fault. We need to
tear that down. And it was also stunning is the
way this guy who is an anti SAMI, who is
part of Democratic Socialists of America, who has rallied for

(27:57):
and stood behind the Hamas cause go right there, not
just the Palestinian cause, but the Hamas cause against Israel. Well,
he was asked for his opinion on the Gaza deal
and he didn't have much to say about it.

Speaker 11 (28:10):
Would you give President Trump credit or not to any
extent credit or not.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
I think it's too early to do so, too early
to say.

Speaker 14 (28:15):
But if it proves to be something that is lasting,
something that is durable, then I think that that's where
you give credit.

Speaker 11 (28:20):
But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their
weapons and leave the leadership in Gaza?

Speaker 14 (28:25):
I believe that any future here in New York City
is one that we have to make sure that's affordable
for all it.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
So, now that the war is over, there's a ceasefire
in effect, they're working out the long term arrangements. Mo'm
Donnie is quiet. Oh you know what, I'm just focused
on the local issues now. Pretty humid in observation about that.
In Fox he ended up saying.

Speaker 15 (28:48):
He didn't have an opinion about that.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
That's pretty striking.

Speaker 15 (28:52):
I mean, look, yes, he's running for a local office
and doesn't have any direct to say about foreign policy.
But as you point it out, Brad or is Martha's
or as Alexis did, is you know, they got this
huge Jewish population in New York and people's views about
that war over there and that conflict matter in New
York City, you'd expected to have a view of it.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
But here's the thing, brit that's why he's not answering
the question because he doesn't align with the Jews in
New York City. He is aligned with the enemy of
Israel far too often in his candidacy and in his
adult life and openly so.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
And then he's he's expected.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
To possibly speak out about this and have a word
to say that would actually align with the Jewish people,
who are quite frankly, when you see the so called
anti Zionism, that's just code word for the eradication of Israel, for.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Anti Semitis, that kind of rhetoric.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
And so he's not gonna speak out on this when
it doesn't fit with his actual worldview. Now he's at
a point where he's got a very real chance of
becoming governor and he's unwilling to put that at risk
by saying what he really thinks.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
That's what's going on there.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
More on Mamdani coming up in some interesting comments from
Brit Hume. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling in for Many Connell.
It's Koa once again, Jimmy Sangenberger in for Many Connell.
On KOA, I want to read something in regards to
the young Republicans.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
This is from josh.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Sonenberger, the chairman of the Colorado Federation of Young Republicans,
in a statement put out this week, freedom of speech
does not allow for freedom from consequence. Two days ago,
a chat was leaked that contained messages from I are
Young Republicans to YR. The statements in that chat were vile, ignorant,

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and unprofessional. While the Colorado Young Republicans supports everyone's constitutional
right to free speech, our organization also supports our fellow
Young Republicans across the nation as they investigate claims against
one another, and passed down punishment to those involved. Let

(31:27):
it be known that CFYR did not have any members
involved in that chat string and we stand on the
principles of personal responsibility and respect all individuals, no matter
what race or creed they are. I think that was
a pretty strong statement and worth sharing. I also want
to clarify because I think when I was talking.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Earlier about.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
Jay Jones, I used the word killing in a way
that wasn't precise to what he said in regards to
the kids of a political opponent than House Speaker Todd Gilbert,
who he had said three people two bullets, referring to
Gilbert Adolf Hitler and Paul Pott. Gilbert would receive both

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bullets every time, is basically what he had said, But
in regards to Gilbert's kids, it was discussing his hope
that they would die, and Jones, when pressed on it
by the other guy that he was texting with, Republican
Delegate Carrie Coiner, said only when people feel pain personally

(32:35):
do they move on policy. And then he talked about
how he would piss on the graves of certain Republican
delegates and Todd and Jennifer Gilbert or evil were evil
and breeding little fascists again about the kids, like, that's
what I'm an Attorney general candidate, but I wanted to
clarify more on what he had specifically said a Poxan,

(32:57):
the young Republicans who were involved in those chats, send
the poks on Jay Jones, who is running to be
a senior official in the state of Virginia, the law
enforcement official, the top cop so to speak, in the state.
He really should step down. But Democrats are not saying anything.

(33:18):
There you go. Thought I'd bring in a couple of
those clarifications and good on the Colorado Federation of Young Republicans.
We're going to take a break. In the next hour,
Aurora Mayor Mike Kauffman will join me to talk about
a lawsuit brought by him and several other home rule
municipalities against Governor Jared Polus. What's going on there? Keep

(33:39):
it here, We've got that coming up on KOA.

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(34:44):
Then really excited for this one. In fact, this is
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for this or updated the website yet. We will be
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Speaker 6 (35:16):
Jimmy Junior Blues Band.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
Check us out on Facebook, at Jimmy Junior Music dot
com and at Jimmy Sangenberger dot com. All ease, all
the time in Sangenberger. So this was interesting reading from
the Denver post. You wear this. Travelers in Colorado's largest

(35:39):
airports won't be exposed to a video message at security
checkpoints from US Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome in which
she blames Democrats for the failed government shutdown. Airport officials
in Denver and Colorado Springs, joining counterparts at multiple other

(35:59):
major air airports, confirmed Tuesday that the video will not
be shown. Since last Thursday, Homeland Security officials have been
asking airport operators to show the video at Transportation Security
Administration checkpoints. In the video, Nome declares Democrats in Congress
refuse to fund the federal government and says this is

(36:21):
why most of our TSA employees are working without pay.
This is in violation of the policy our airport has.
As a public facility, you cannot have non commercial speech.
Colorado Springs Municipal Airport spokeswoman Aidan Ryan said it is

(36:42):
a facility for transportation, not for opinion. We are here
to run a safe and efficient airport and not to
push out political and religious views onto our users. That's
not the purpose of the airport. Denver International Airport officials
said they lack the VID display screens to run it.
DIA quote has not been asked by TSA as we

(37:05):
don't have monitors at are checkpoints for videos, Denver Airport
officials said in a statement. No word from the Grand
Junction Airport on what they are doing, but DIA in
Colorado Springs Airport officials aligned with those in Las Vegas, Portland, Seattle, Tacoma, Charlotte,
and New York and refusing to play the video.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
So look, I tend to.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
Think I said this earlier, that Republicans are more right
on the shutdown, that Democrats are the bigger problem into
why this has been the case, why it's happening. But
both sides still bear fault, And you can completely disagree
with me and say, oh, it's more of the Republican's fault,

(37:50):
but you can't absolve the Democrats, just as I feel
I can't absolve the Republicans. Nobody should in this case.
Though I really don't like it. I don't like whether
it's the Homeland Security Secretary or if you go to
the National Park Service websites, they have had a banner

(38:13):
on their website in order if they still do, but
at least last week they did blaming Democrats for the
shutdown on there. I don't like when government officials and
official capacities play politics to blame the other party. There's
no justification for it. Use your bully pulpits and other fashions.

(38:37):
You're given a speech or something calling for change, whatever
it is, but don't do it in this kind of platform.
Don't do it where you need to where people need

(38:58):
to do something and happen to access be forced to
access it. An airport, a website for the National Park Service,
going to get a reservation at Rocky Mountain National Park.

Speaker 6 (39:22):
You don't need to and shouldn't get a notice.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
Saying, oh, it's the Democrats fault, just as it shouldn't
get it for a Republican. You got a Democrat in
office in a few years as president and they blame
Republicans for the shutdown, then they could do the same
thing and Republicans will cry foul and rightly. So the

(39:45):
problem is that a lot of those Republicans will not
have set a peep about Trump doing it when the
shoe was on the other foot. That's why yesterday I
spent a good amount of time talking about how Republicans
need to be careful with what they do and how

(40:08):
far they push the envelope in trying to blame Democrats
or trying to attack Democrats on certain things. It's not
that they're not necessarily right. They could well be, and
in fact, broadly speaking, I would say tend to be.
But that doesn't mean that you do it or say it.

(40:31):
Here's another example from the Wall Street Journal. The Trump
administration is preparing sweeping changes at the International Revenue Service
that would allow the agency tosue criminal inquiries of left
leaning groups more easily, according to people familiar with the matter,

(40:52):
a senior IRS official in the effort has drawn up
a list of potential targets that includes major Democrats donors.
Some of the people said the undertaking aims to install
allies of President Trump at the IRS Criminal Investigative Division
to exert firmer control over the unit and weaken the
involvement of IRS lawyers and criminal investigations officials said the

(41:17):
proposed changes could open the door to politically motivated probes
and are being driven by Gary Shapley, an adviser to
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett. Chaplee has told people he's going
to replace Guy Fico, the chief of the Investigative Unit,
who has been at the agency for decades, and that

(41:39):
Chapley has been putting together a list of donors and
groups he believes IRS investigators should look at. Among those
on the list are the billionaire Democratic donors George Soros
and his affiliated groups. According to his senior IRS official,
and another person briefed on the list, couldn't be determined

(42:01):
upon what ground Shapley would seek to begin such an investigation.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Do you remember Lois Learner.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
Who targeted tea party groups claiming that they were extremeiston
in terms of approval of five oh one C three
applications or renewals. I ran for years, for seven years
during that time that she was at the IRS. Under Obama,

(42:36):
a nonprofit was called Liberty Day Institute. We helped educate
fifth graders about the US Constitution and American government, and
it was beautiful. We'd go into fifth grade classes. We
gave out millions of constitutions over the years across the country.
Was founded in nineteen ninety six by a guy named Andy.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
McKeon, folded amid COVID in twenty twenty.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
But it's a great program, and we waited during that
learner time period an extra long time to get our
renewal of our five oh one C three status. I
remember wondering for months, where was it, Where was it?

Speaker 6 (43:15):
Where was it?

Speaker 7 (43:16):
Finally we got it, but it was just during that time,
and I believe it was because we were slow walked
along with tea party groups. We were not that we
were bipartisan Democrats and Republicans alike supported the nonprofit, did videos.
We had Governor hicken Looper and Senator Bennett and then
Congressman Jared Polis and other Democrats involved in doing videos

(43:39):
and such for Liberty Day. So it wasn't a partisan outfit,
but we were lumped into that, I believe it. And
that was just in terms of five oh one C
three status. To my recollection, there was nothing to do
with criminal investigations. Now, there are Antifa groups that engage

(44:02):
in extremist activities and violence, sure, and those groups, I
think there's just cause to investigate some of them perhaps
if you know of specific instances. But to just cast
the broad brush for the IRS and say well, we're
now going to target nonprofit groups that are left wing,

(44:24):
no unacceptable, and you are setting that president. So let's
say the next wave of Tea Party like groups forms
under the next Democrat president and they say, well, you
know what, these are right wing extremists, so we're gonna
have the IRS start doing criminal investigations into them. Now,
of course IRS criminal investigation different from the FBI, but

(44:48):
it's still something different than five oh one C three
status as a nonprofit that you are tax exempt and
so forth. I mean, it's not acceptab.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
I think it is.

Speaker 7 (45:04):
Absurd to see, absurd to see and hear the talk
of Trump being an authoritarian and a dictatorship, because that's
next level. Well, when you have these kinds of things happen, well,
you're inviting and opening the door to those kinds of

(45:26):
claims and assertions because you are going too far. You're
using politics as a metric to use the power of
government to go after your political opponents. I voted for
Trump all three times that he ran, and there are

(45:46):
a heck of a lot of reasons why I did so,
especially in twenty sixteen, then again in twenty twenty, twenty
twenty four. I didn't vote for this. The kind of
retribution scheme that seems to be growing here, of going
after Democrat targets because you disagree with them, because you
don't like them, I don't understand it, and I think

(46:11):
it deserves more pushback from Republicans because if you don't,
then it's going to persist and then the Democrats when
they again, I keep saying this, I can't say it enough.
When the Democrats get in charge, shoe on the other foot,
boom boy to bing, you're gonna be in for trouble.
But right now Republicans are at an apex. The power

(46:35):
and position of the GOP is very strong, particularly because
the Democrats are so terrible. Harry anton Over on CNN
talked about the Democrats and they're plummeting chances at taking
back the US House of Representatives, which should be a
cakewalk for them.

Speaker 12 (46:52):
If you go back six months ago, you go back
to April K Paul, when what were we looking at, Well,
we were looking at the Democrats with a very clear
shot of taking control of the US House of representatives.
According to the Calshi prediction market odds, we saw them
in an eighty three percent chance, but those odds have
gone plummeting down. Now we're talking about just a sixty
three percent chance, while the gopiece chances up like a

(47:13):
rocket up like gold, up from seventeen percent to now
a thirty seven percent chance. So we'll look like a
pretty clear Democrat likely Democratic winning the House come next
year has become much closer to toss up at this point,
although still slightly leading Democratic.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
And this isn't how it should be.

Speaker 7 (47:32):
And it continued by making a comparison to the last
time Trump was in office and face midterm elections.

Speaker 12 (47:38):
Democrats were way out ahead back in twenty seventeen on
the generic congressional ballot, and now we're basically looking at
Democrats ahead. But again they are so far in back
of the pace that they set back there. And so
I think what a lot of folks are seeing. Folks
like myself are saying, wait a minute, given what we
might be seeing and redistricting, is this plus.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
Three going to be in a It's not the kind
of barnstorming win.

Speaker 7 (48:05):
It's not going to be the kind of barnstorming win
that Democrats should have, they should take back the House,
but there's a really good chance they won't. And it's
because Republicans are in a stronger position because Democrats are
deeply unpopular for a variety of reasons. And that definitely,

(48:26):
without question works in favor of Republicans, because if you
don't like the other side, then you might just not vote,
or you might be inclined to vote for their opponents,
in this case Republicans.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
It is a moment where.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
I think we're seeing some of the politics turned on
its head nationally and it's fascinating because here in Colorado,
let's bring it home. Here in Colorado, there's actually a
shot for Republicans to make really gains because the Democrats
are deeply unpopular here. It is possible that a Republican

(49:10):
for governor could win. Barb Kirkmeyer, Mark Baisley, others in
the mix have a real shot, at least compared to before. Now,
I have to say I am extraordinarily pessimistic. We have

(49:30):
not had a Republican governor since Bill Owens left office
in two thousand and six. Next year will be twenty years.
In fact, New York State has had a Republican governor
more recently than Colorado has, if you can believe it.

(49:53):
I mean, it is astonishing to think about. But or
as long rather, I think because PATTACKI was governor and
he left off as just verifying in two thousand and six,
the same year that Bill Owens left in two thousand

(50:14):
and six. But that in and of itself is stunning,
isn't it. I mean, the fact that a Republican was
a governor in New York as recently as there was
a Republican governor in Colorado just shows how much this

(50:36):
state has changed. Well, we have consistently. It used to
be in Colorado that you'd have split ticket voting where
the Democrat governor would win, but the Republicans would sweep.
Attorney General, treasurer, and secretary of State. Now the treasurer candidate,

(50:58):
the one who's running is Kevin Grantham. Yesterday we interviewed
him in studio.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Fantastic candidate.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
He brings professionalism and fiscal responsibility in the right kind
of thinking to the Treasurer's office. He's really got a
shot a secretary of state. We need a Republican who's
not a nut job that is to say, we need
a Republican who's not going to talk about getting rid
of Colorado's mail ballot system, who's not going to praise
Tina Peters, the convicted former clerk who engaged in a

(51:31):
complex identity theft scheme to breach her own election office,
misleading government employees in her own office in clerk and
recorder in Mason County, and the Secretary of State's office
to get credentials meant for one guy named Jerry Wood

(51:53):
but used by another guy without Wood's knowledge named Conan
Hayes form ninth teen nineties pro surfer, and then he
snuck in there. He made copies of the election server
hard drive before and after.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
A routine software update, and hey.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
Just to say, that led to Tina Peters getting criminally
convicted for felonies three misdemeanors. She's in prison from up
to nine years. We do not need and should not
have a Republican candidate for Secretary of State who will
praise Tina Peters, call for her to be released, so
on and so forth. Like that, plus let's get rid

(52:36):
of mail balloting is a recipe for utter defeat. Colorado
switched to a most a vote by mail system one
hundred percent vote by mail system where you get your
mail in ballot and then you can either mail it
back or use dropbox, which, by the way, I think
like something on the order seventy five eighty percent of

(52:56):
voters if not more, use the dropboxes, which are secure.
But in twenty thirteen we made that switch, and by
the way, when we did, seventy percent of Colorado registered
voters were already signed up for no excuse absentee ballots,
meaning they'd already requested a mail in ballot to automatically

(53:17):
come to that no questions asked. So at the time
many of us did oppose it, including myself, but at
least we had the groundwork there and the idea that now,
twelve plus years later, you're gonna say, well, we should

(53:37):
get rid of that whole system that you've been used to.
That's absurd, And we actually do have tremendous strength and
protections in this election system we have in Colorado. But
back to the point the Secretary of State candidate, we
think somebody who's level headed and who's competent at the

(54:00):
they release not to drag down the ticket or the GOP.
I don't know that a Republican can win for Secretary
of State, that you'll have a kind of person, like
an experienced clerk who deserves that nomination, but at least
somebody who's not gonna stick their foot in their mouth
all the time and say dumb things. And then attorney General.

(54:22):
He needs somebody who's competent, capable, who can be the
next Attorney General of Colorado and they can bring the fight.
Whether the governor's race is winnable or not, those three
races theoretically should be at least in play. And the
biggest reason why is because Democrats are so unpopular, and

(54:45):
that's the way things are going. Colorado could have some
big changes.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
We'll see.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
As listener text in on the KOA Common Spirit health text,
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don't go anywhere. It's KOA back in the sattle tomorrow,
by the way, and look, speaking of trampled underfoot, home

(55:18):
rule municipalities, I feel like are being trampled underfoot. That
includes Aurora, Rvada, Westminster, and Lafayette, which have all joined
together in filing a preliminary injunction to block Governor Jared
Polis's executive orders that, as Aurora Mayor Mike Kaufman put

(55:41):
it in a post a couple of days ago, threatened
to withhold two hundred and eighty million dollars in grant
funding for cities who are not complying with these so
called strategic growth laws passed by the legislature and signed
to law by the governor. For more on this, I'm
pleased to be joined here on KOA by Aurora Mayor

(56:05):
Mike Kaufman himself, right here on the program. Mayor Kaufman,
Welcome back to KOA.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Sir, Hey Gimmy, thanks for having me.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
I appreciate it, Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 7 (56:15):
So, first of all, before we get to the specifics
of the lawsuit that Aurora has signed into, can you onto,
can you just explain what this effort of strategic growth
laws is all about and why in your view it's
so problematic.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Well, I think that I think you can argue on
one side that it's about, you know, increasing the inventory
of affordable housing, you know, in the State of Colorado
and the and the governor argues that that's an issue
of staywide concerned, although I would argue back that you
know that I think there are a lot of unscoopulous
trial ers that have a choke hold on the majority

(56:52):
in the legislature that that have created an environment where
you're just you're not getting builders in Colorado that will
build uh you know that that entry level condominium and so.
Uh so that that's probably a separate argument. But so
what the governor did in saying that it's an issue
of statewide concern was to say, okay, that that then

(57:13):
we have jurisdiction over Article twenty, section six of the
Constitution that talks about home rule and that land news
planning is really you know, a power left to local
government home rules cities, and so uh you know, we're
we first sued the governor sue his administration, uh when

(57:36):
he signed the law uh of actually laws, I think
there was one one that that did this, uh that
that you served our authority to do land use planning.
And and then the secondly, now we're then he then
he issued an executive orders saying okay, any even though
we are suing on the constitutional grounds and the courtA

(57:56):
is you have to make the decision determination that then
he then he goes. Well, any city that doesn't comply
now with these uh, with these new laws, we're going
to withhold grant funding to them. Two hundred and eighty
million dollars toll in state grand funding to the cities

(58:17):
that don't comply. Well, I mean that's just. And so
what we did is file this week. We filed a
preliminary injunction to stop the governor, uh, to you know,
stop the governor's executive orders in terms of discriminating against us. Look,
if the Serme Court rules, which I don't think they will,
it'd be very disappointed if they did against home rule

(58:37):
cities that that you know, this is an issue of
state wide concern, and it was within the governor's purview
to to sign the legislation constitutionally, Uh, then we'll have
to obey it. But until then, we shouldn't be forced
to uh comply with laws that we don't believe are
on that are constitutional.

Speaker 7 (58:58):
Let me ask you a Roora mirror might cost and
to remind us about what.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
Home rule really means.

Speaker 7 (59:04):
Because if you're talking about the governor overstepping and trampling
home rule municipalities underfoot, shall we say, I think it's
important to just really underscore what that term means.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
Home rule.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Really, in this instance, it really reflects our ability to
make decisions about land use within our jurisdictions, like planning
and zoning issues like saying, Okay, this is the density
we want. And these are fairly complex issues, but by
by usurping and taking it away from us, the citizens

(59:41):
have nowhere to go. So ather Ways, today we have
a planning commission that that here is these uh you know,
you know, applications for permise to build certain things. And
then you have you know, citizens you can go and
address the Planning Commission as to whether or not they
like it, and then that they can appeal THENTO if

(01:00:04):
if if the business doesn't like the decision or the
citizens don't like the decision the residents, then they can
appeal it to the city council. That's all taken away
from us by what he's done. And I just think
these issues are fairly complex and on his side, what
he'll argue is it's kind of nimbiism that that people
don't want you know, if they may not want an

(01:00:28):
apartment building that that is, you know, whatever income restricted,
workforce housing or low income housing. You know, but you know,
maybe if you target lot specifically about that saying that
we can't discriminate certain instances, and maybe that's okay, But
to due to this blanket stripping our authority and usurping

(01:00:51):
that that authority away from us. These are very complex decisions,
and they involve traffic studies, that involve infrastructure like water,
They involve a lot of things, and and but boy,
that that's just so brazen that takes that away. And

(01:01:12):
so we're fighting it. And I think it's important for
us to stand up, and I think it's important for
us to win on this issue. And if we don't,
and if we roll over on this one, then every
then we've lost any local control, we've lost any say,
we've lost in any authority that it is. The power
is going to go to the state legislature. And I

(01:01:33):
and I believe that the basic actually the best government
is the government closest to the people.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
Mayor Mike Kaufman joining us.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
So just to be clear, cities including Aurora are at
Greenwood Village, Glendale, le Fayette, and Westminster have sued against
the constitutionality, saying these strategic growth laws are unconstitutional and
pinging on home rule municipalities. Marole municipalities like Aurora have

(01:02:02):
not complied, and so that has brought this lawsuit requesting
a preliminary injunction that Aurora, Avada, Westminster, and Lafayette have
filed to say, wait, a second, Governor Polis is holding
back two hundred and eighty million dollars in grant funding
for our cities because we're.

Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
Not complying amid a lawsuit.

Speaker 7 (01:02:25):
Over the constitutionality of what he's doing.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
Am I getting that right?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Yeah? And so the two in eighty million dollars is
a total amount available, okay, for all cities you know,
across Colorado. So I don't want to say that it's
the four cities that are twenty eighty million dollars. Sure,
that's not the case. But you know, this pencil is
going to apply that whatever the court State Supreme Court
decide is going to apply to a lot of other things.
But I think it's very brazen to to discriminate against us,

(01:02:53):
to try and retaliate against us, you know, and tell
the court decide. I mean, he just needs to take
a pause, in my view, and say, okay, you know,
it's one thing. Yeah, if if the court decided that
what he did was constitutional and we weren't complying here,
I get it that he might justifiably retaliate in some way,

(01:03:17):
but not in the instance where the court hasn't ruled
on it yet and he wants to go ahead and
punish us that retaliate against us, I mean that to
try and get compliance or something we believe it's unconstitutional.
I mean, come on, that's just not right, especially when
he complains about the Trump administration.

Speaker 7 (01:03:36):
Oh exactly, I was thinking about the exact same thing.
It's almost trumpion in the attitude that Polus is taking
toward home room municipalities with that concept enshrined in the constitution. Now.
One thing that's interesting, though, is, let's contrast this twenty
eighteen Mayor Kaufman. We saw in this state Senate Bill
one eighty one, which changed how oil and gas regulations

(01:03:59):
were done to allow local municipalities to have and counties
to have the ability to regulate something that quite frankly,
in that industry, there's so much crossover where there's justification
to say, wait a second, we should have this at
the state level. But what the governor signed into law
with SB one point eight one at that time in

(01:04:20):
twenty eighteen twenty nineteen allowed for local governments to put
more restrictive oil and gas regulations in place, but not
less restrictive oil and gas regulations than what the state allowed.
And yet here he's turning around with home rural municipalities
and saying is our way or the highway and you're
challenging in courts, so we're going to prevent money from

(01:04:42):
coming to you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yeah, it's an amazing thing. I worry about this state
and from you know, I obviously focused on being mayor
of the City of Aura, but it impacts Aurora, it
impacts everybody across the state. Our economic competitiveness as a city, yeah,
I mean as a state, and and that we're declining.
And I think you can see it in the number

(01:05:07):
if you if you look at the immigration uh uh
and immigration people leaving the state. I mean it is
slowed that. I think that I don't know that. I
don't think we're in a negative situation yet, but it's
definitely slowed down. And whether you're like or not, I
mean people, people moving people moved to where the economic

(01:05:30):
opportunities are the greatest. And so I'm very concerned about
the state in that regard. I mean, I focused on
the little area that I have, which is not so
little active. We have a land mass is larger than Denver,
although our population is a little over four hundred thousand.
But it's you know, the weird thing I mean being
a former legis state legislature. Gosh. I mean, where it's

(01:05:54):
rare that I'm ever testifying about something good that's happening.
The legislation is doing well, Let's I'm just worried about
what they were doing. I want to think. Let me
tell you, you know, Governor Pulls helped me out last session.
Let me tell you why how he helped me. First
of all, I'm glad that he vetoed there was a
labor bill that he vetoed that would have heard our

(01:06:16):
economy and that was important to his base, and I'm
grateful for that. But but I'm also grateful for another
bill that he did. There was a bill that would
have we we you know, we believe in a tough
on crime and put approach in this city. I mean
that our leadership does I do you know in this
city and we have, uh for instance, we have mandatory

(01:06:38):
minimums on motor vehicle theft and our retail theft. They're tough.
I mean, they were designed to be tough to curb that,
to curb that, you know, that conduct. And there was
a building foot the legislature, and I'm worried it's going
to come up again. But that would have stripped us
of that authority. And we say the municipal courts can

(01:06:58):
have penalties no greater than the stake criminal code, right,
And I was so and I and I talked to
him about it, and I was so grateful that he
vetoed that bill and that really has helped us out
in Aurora. And I worry about whoever's successor is going
to be because I see that bill coming back again.
I mean, if I think you're right, obviously I'm a Barbara,
I'm sort of supporting Barbara Kirkmeyer. I guess I'll tell

(01:07:20):
you that on the radio. But yeah, you know, I
worry about that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
And there you go, you know, well, yeah, Mayor Mike
Kaufman of Aurora, we got to leave it there. I
appreciate it, and I'm right there with you on this
fight in court and wish Aurora and the other cities
joining forces here against Governor Poulos on this county and
some others. Best of luck, my friend, Thank you for
joining us. Hey, thank you once again, Mayor Mike Kaufman

(01:07:46):
joining us here on KOA. We're going to take a break,
Jimmy and for Andy Moore coming up. Interesting conversation with
Mayor Mike Kaufman, especially juxtaposed against an interview I did
on Tuesday when I filled in for Ross about free
A and Littleton to protect single family zoning in the city,

(01:08:09):
and there are concerns about accessory dwelling units and whether
or not those may become illegal if three A passes.
But it's an example of citizens trying to push back
against efforts by the state some municipalities to really advance
a view of setting up neighborhoods that is much more

(01:08:33):
about multifamily housing than protecting single family neighborhoods. And I'm
all for zoning changes. It's one of the biggest problems
when it comes to housing affordability. It's a huge aspect
to it. But this isn't the way to go, not

(01:08:55):
specifically oriented towards multifamily housing, it would be a good
conversation to have about what zoning changes would be good.
But Mayor Mike Kaufman was talking about the Strategic Growth laws,
as Governor Polis calls it, which are trampling upon local communities,
particularly home rule municipalities, and their ability to push back

(01:09:19):
at these things and make their own decisions for themselves.
And it's interesting that, you know, you got the juxtaposition
of on certain shows and things like oil and gas,
they want cities to be able to put more restrictions
in place than the state. But in this circumstance, your
home role even protected in the constitution, you better obliged

(01:09:41):
otherwise you're going to lose your money. I just we're
not going to give you this grant money. And that's
Governor Polis. It's very Trumpian, very Trumpian listener text coming
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of a lot that needs to be fixed in Colorado.
That's for darn sure. We're gonna pick up the conversation
on the other side. Another hour up ahead, Jimmy and
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happening with Venezuela. President Trump has been launching attacks strikes
on cartels off the coast of Venezuela. Chips boats rather
with cartel members, and they're extra judicial.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
There's no declaration of war.

Speaker 7 (01:12:09):
But look, we have had, going back to the Barbary
pirates with Thomas Jefferson, we've had President taken upon himself
to address piracy. Isn't this sort of like that drug
traffickers pirates? They're doing damage and horrible things, and they're
foreign nationals, So maybe there's justification there.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:12:32):
I'm not a legal expert, and this is an issue
where I think, you know, you got to look at
it a little bit. But I like in theory, I
like what he's doing taking them out, addressing him. But
what concerns me more is what could happen on the
ground in Venezuela in two respects. On the one hand,

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and I think this is perfectly reasonable, it's just a
matter of what they're really going for for here. President
Trump has now authorized CIA covert operations in Venezuela. Now
I found this really interesting. Normally I don't think we
get announcements of, well, the CIA today is engaging in
covert operations in Russia, the CIA today is engaging in

(01:13:20):
covert operations in Cuba. But no, there is a big
announcement that the CIA has the authority to conduct covert
action in Venezuela, while according to The Wall Street Journal,
also floating the idea of land strikes in a broadening
campaign against alleged drug trafficking. I authorized for two reasons,

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Trump said Wednesday at the White House, alleging Venezuelan leaders
have quote emptied their prisons into the United States of
America end quote. We have a lot of drugs coming
in from Venezuela. The authorization enables the CIA to operate
andestinely in the country and potentially take action against Venezuelan's

(01:14:04):
strongman Nicholas Maduro, his government, and drug traffickers. According to
an Administration official, covert action, which is authorized in what
is known as a presidential finding, can involve a range
of secret activities, including paramilitary and lethal operations meant to
influence political, economic, or military conditions in foreign countries. Asked

(01:14:30):
of the CIA the power to remove Maduro, Trump said
it was a quote ridiculous question, but added, I think
Venezuela is feeling the heat. It's moi galliente. He didn't
say that. Let's just be adding it on. Administration officials
have argued that by designating Latin American drug cartels as
foreign terrorist organizations, the US has the power to use

(01:14:52):
lethal force.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:14:53):
Look, clandestine operations by the CIA and Latin America are
a tail as old as the last century. I mean,
it is something that the United States was engaging in
in all kinds of countries, particularly to try and prevent
the expansion of communism during the Cold War. But I'm

(01:15:13):
unaware of particular announcements being made by the President saying, oh,
we've got agents in Cuba. We've got agents here and
there for the most part, I mean, Cuba had some
particular instances under Kennedy, but otherwise we didn't get this
kind of announcement. So is he more trying to scare

(01:15:33):
ma Aduro and send a message, or is he trying
to do something else with this, like just letting people
know I'm mister tough guy, and he is very tough.
The strength that Trump has shown from his first term
to now is the reason why we have a Gaza deal,

(01:15:57):
Make no mistake about it. That is why peace through
the strength and the strength shown by the Trumpet administration.
The resolve is exactly why Trump was able to achieve
that deal. So I don't know about this the strike's
going on. I don't know all of what's motivating it

(01:16:20):
and every little aspect, but I think there is cause
to push back on Venezuela. I mean, this is trend
de Aragua. Trend has been infesting Aurora and Denver.

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
And it's based out of Venezuela.

Speaker 7 (01:16:44):
So I think there's cause to look at this and say,
you know what, maybe we need to do something here.
But I wondered the extent to which there's really going
to be as much on the ground happening as bluster
to try and effect change. It's probably a mix of both.

(01:17:07):
Trump often does messaging to signal things and signal positions
that he's got to achieve certain outcomes. That's part of
what we saw bring about Gotzadal last week. He basically
said he's spoken into existence. Maybe that's something that he's
doing here. I don't know. Is really quite fascinating to

(01:17:28):
think of the CIA being announced to engage in Venezuelan
clandestine operations. Meanwhile, sources, according to CNN, Trump's former national
security advisor John Bolton allegedly shared classified info to his
wife and daughter in an email, and John Bolton may

(01:17:49):
well be indicted, and that's big news because this is
a former national security advisor under Trump, former ambassador under
George W. Bush to the United Nations. I actually introduced

(01:18:12):
John Bolton year's back, when he was still popular amongst conservatives.
I actually introduced him at the Western Conservative Summit.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Then.

Speaker 7 (01:18:22):
That was a fun introduction too. He got a kick
out of a little comment. Well, I think I made
a comment about his mustache. But I digress. The times
have changed and he's not very popular and he just
might get indicted for sharing classified info to his wife
and daughter by email. Why would you do that, dude?

(01:18:42):
If that's true. An indictment pending from the grand jury.
If it breaks, we'll let you know. I'm j B
saying in Burger filling in for Mandy Connolly. Classic cartoon
could be made into a live action movie. What's going
on here? We'll talk about it the other side, Jimmy
and for many on KOA. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling in

(01:19:04):
for Mandy Connell here on KOA And Hey, Rod, I'm
curious what you think about this. Here's the headline from
screen Crush. Jim Carrey to star in live action Jetson's movie,
except it's a misleading headline because then you read it,
meet George Jetson. He looks a lot like Jim Carrey. Now,

(01:19:24):
according to the Hollywood Reporter, Carrie is in talks to
star in a live action movie based on the famous
vintage cartoon series The Jetsons. The film would be directed
by Jurassic Rose filmmaker Colin Trevarro. Trevarro and Joe Epstein
are in talks to pen the script. So it's a

(01:19:46):
little misleading a headline saying he will be this when
they're in talks for it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
I remember as a kid.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
Watching and loving the live action Flintstones. They were just fun,
both of the original that was in theaters and the
sequel that I think was just direct to home. I
enjoyed that one, but it was with different actors. You
had John Goodman as Fred Flintstone and Rick moranis as
Barney Rubble in one of his last roles before he

(01:20:15):
retired from acting. Although, much to the joy of both
A Rod and myself, Rick Morani is coming out of
retirement for Spaceballs too. But back to the Jetsons. Back
to the Jetsons, though, how do you feel about this.
I can't picture Jim Carrey in the role number one
and number two. George Jetson was born three years ago.

(01:20:38):
That is to say, his characters supposedly was born in
twenty twenty two in the lore of the show, and
it was the year twenty sixty two that the show
takes place, making him forty years old. So Jim Carrey
is a little old for it. I don't know, what
do you think.

Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
I think is kind of cool.

Speaker 7 (01:20:56):
I like the idea of a Jetson's live action movie.
Not sure if Jim Carrey's guy for the role, Jimmy, I.

Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
Will give you the absolute most emphatic eh. I am
almost always in the camp of these live action remakes.
I love almost all of them. This one doesn't really
do much for me. And also you're missing what could
also be underlying in this movie futuristic taking place around

(01:21:21):
now ish, could be some messaging in that movie that
maybe would make a lot of people, maybe not, and
Julia very much possibly, So I'm just saying right Therefore,
you're right.

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
I mean, yesterday when we had Star Wars Theory, the
YouTuber on the show, we were talking about some of
the politics that has been injected from the mentality of
Disney and Star Wars and so forth into Star Wars.

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
I could see that possibly it could be really creative
and very meta about it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Though.

Speaker 8 (01:21:52):
If they're really imaginative, I wouldn't mind it as much.
But if it's like blatant in your face, Hey, this
takes place around the current, well, let's take a chance
to get a little messaging in there.

Speaker 7 (01:22:03):
Jim Carrey's most recent role has been as Doctor Robotnik
in the Sonic movies Keep them coming. Quite honestly, they're
really well done.

Speaker 8 (01:22:12):
You're telling me that's one of my favorite video games
growing up. He is electric in that role.

Speaker 5 (01:22:16):
Me too.

Speaker 7 (01:22:17):
I love Sonic. The Hedgehog has always been one of
my favorites, and seeing that live action done as well
as it has been, and the unique way that they've
done it. If they approach it that way, because that's
supposed to be around now, then maybe that would be
a non political Let's just have fun with the Jetsons

(01:22:38):
now that we have the technology to make it look good.

Speaker 8 (01:22:40):
I will say, since Jim Carrey's getting older, we need
to preserve him for the projects. We really need to
see him in more Sonic, But also he won't do
it in the in the in the costume anymore, but
he's mentioned if it's motion capture a gring sequel, we
need the energy to go towards the project like this,
not we again, we have to save Jim Carrey's energy

(01:23:02):
for top level projects.

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
Jetson's ain't it. I don't see how he fits in
the roll of George Jetson. So that's the problem I
have with it. I'm open to it. I kind of
like the idea of a Jetson's live action movie. I
don't really like Jim Carrey in the row. Yeah, pass,
I can't see it past five six six nine zero
Coos Toma Spirit health text line, Jimmy Carrey adding the

(01:23:25):
Jimmy there carr Well talking to me maybe maybe addressing
me as Jimmy. I don't be saying anyway, Carrie will
ruin this movie. I think there's probably a bit may
some does for a Ross. This is perfect. The theme
song just melds great into the real thing. His harmonica

(01:23:48):
which are right over here, and we got to go
to a break maybe on the other side with Rashini
Rajkumar our guest. They'll pull out the Harps playing his harmonica.
I got fourteen in the pack in the briefcase full
of blues, Don't go anywhere. Jimmy in for Mandy on KOA.

(01:24:11):
Jimmy Sangenberger in for Mandy Connell. One more day ahead
tomorrow on KOA. Very much looking forward to rounding things out.
We will be joined. Well, I'll tee it up what
we've got coming up in studio tomorrow when we've round
out this segment, because I want to get straight to

(01:24:32):
our special guests this afternoon. I've been interviewing Rashini raj
Kumar for gosh over eleven years now, if you can
believe it. She is a crisis strategist, licensed attorney, former
TV journalist, and host of the Crisis Files podcast, which

(01:24:52):
just had a big event at the Mall of America
last week on October nine, and Rashini rejoins me here
on KOA. Good afternoon, my friend, how are you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
I am doing great. I have recovered from the big
event that was just a week ago, and it's hard
to believe. Time does fly.

Speaker 7 (01:25:14):
Jimmy, So before we get any further, I want to
talk about this because I've never been to the Mall
of America. Frankly, I've never been to Minnesota, which is
where you hail from, so I want to talk about
mall of America. But first set the context for what
The Crisis Files is.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
I've been a past guest.

Speaker 7 (01:25:32):
You had twenty five past guests there for little interviews
as part of what you were doing with a live show.
That brought about now three podcast episodes of The Crisis
Files to be released. I would have loved to have
been there as one of your past guests, but tell
us about that podcast is sort of what you've got
going on.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
So The Crisis Files is now just over three years old.
We kicked off season four in August. Episodes dropped every
Monday across all podcast platforms, YouTube, and of course our website,
The Crisis Files dot com. And if you watch it
there or on YouTube, you can actually see us on
all the other platforms. It's audio only and there are

(01:26:15):
very nice, bite sized, bingeable episodes. We call them case files,
fifteen to twenty minutes each and we dissect some of
the crises of the day. We try to give you
crisis prevention solutions if you're not already in crisis, if
you're in crisis, we're going to try to help you
get out.

Speaker 13 (01:26:31):
And then we also do.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Inspirational episodes, so sometimes that will have a very high
profile leader on to share their leadership journey and maybe
you'll get some lessons there. And even when we do
very beat a consumer kind of episodes like sleep deprivation
or burnout, there are always lessons for business in there.
There are lessons for individuals, and sometimes an episode hits

(01:26:57):
you in a way you didn't know. We've covered the
topic of suicide. We have had some retired army generals
and sailors on. We are going to be getting into
de escalation tactics later this year, pascinating with a Santa
Monica police officer. So we go everywhere because Jimmy, it's

(01:27:17):
not a matter of if, but when crisis will rock.

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
Your world exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
Now, you got to tell me about the Mall of America,
and not only what it is like at the Mall
of America, but like having an event along the lines
of what you've done now on a couple of occasions.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
All of America is North America's biggest entertainment center. Like
everything under one roof. And for those of you who
have not been. There's a playground in the middle. You
can ride on a roller coaster and do a lot
of other things. There are shops, restaurants, everything. It's our
second annual.

Speaker 16 (01:27:52):
Live remote at Mall of America, but it's.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Our first time in the rotunda, which if you can imagine,
I'm sure in Denver and other cities where your listeners
are or whatever, your big mall is that middle space
where everyone can gather. You can look from the third
floor down to the ground level. We were on the
first floor in that rotunda, and our microphones were actually
heard all across the mall, so even if you weren't

(01:28:16):
right in the rotunda watching us, you could hear our
word live show, which was three hours long. We recorded
three actual podcast episodes, which we'll drop in the coming weeks,
and as you said, twenty five other Path guests came
to do some one and two minute kind of either
solo or in pairs two minute quick checks chats live

(01:28:38):
on stage with me, and we've been putting as much
of that as we can get to. You know, it'll
be over the next couple weeks on our Instagram, on
our YouTube at the Crisis File, so people can take
that in.

Speaker 16 (01:28:49):
I was just working on before you called me my
own LinkedIn post.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
I'm going to put a few photos on LinkedIn from
the amazing nights and it was a great night of networking.
Lots of business people came out that we're either past guests.

Speaker 16 (01:29:02):
Or very part of our partners.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
And so it was a real It was the place
to be last Thursday night in the Minneapolis Saint Paul area.

Speaker 7 (01:29:09):
Jimmy the crisisfiles dot com and you can listen to
it on the iHeartRadio app. Before we shift gears. Just
how big is them all of America?

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Oh my gosh, you would ask me that I know
they get like thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:29:25):
Oh my god.

Speaker 16 (01:29:26):
I don't want to misstate that they are.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
Huge, Okay, I mean, imagine a bunch of football fields.
I just imagine all of them together, the largest entertainment
complex in the United States. It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:29:41):
I just googled it and according to Wikipedia, five point
six million square feet.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Okay, I would not have even, like so way more
than a few football titeps. I mean, it is big.
And Jill Renslow was our host. She's the big boss
over there. She welcomed me in, introduced our event, and
we had a couple of words on stage together. She
herself is a past guest, she's a regular contributor. We
want to have you back. We had so much fun

(01:30:09):
when you were on Maybe next year, Jim, you should be.

Speaker 7 (01:30:11):
On stage with us at MA Oh, that would be fantastic.
I know you've got an event being planned in April.
If I can be there, that would be great. I
want to shift gears. We have some breaking news. Rashini Rashkumar,
a former former Trump national security advisor John Bolton, has
just been indicted by a federal grand jury. What is

(01:30:33):
being reported is that he shared classified information, particularly with
his wife and daughter, allegedly via email. He of course
former national security advisor to Trump and under under George W.
Bush he is was the UN ambassador. This is just

(01:30:53):
breaking news. Any quick thoughts from you. You are again
a licensed attorney, and I mean certainly this is a
great for John Bolton.

Speaker 16 (01:31:03):
Yeah, it is a crisis, but we have to remember.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
You know, you can be charged with something and we
still have to look at where of the facts exactly
what's happening. I think just based on what you just described,
never a good idea to share classified information when.

Speaker 16 (01:31:18):
You have clearance for something like that. It never means
your spouse is part of that. So those are just
some of the things based on the initial.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Information that's coming in.

Speaker 7 (01:31:26):
Yeah, yeah, it'll be fascinating to watch this, but definitely
a huge development. There's been a lot of talk about
the prospect of an indictment. It's another major indictment on
the heels of indictments for Letitia James, the Attorney General
of New York, and also for James Cromy. Not sure
where we're occasionally getting a little bit of an echo

(01:31:49):
from yours truly, but James Comy, the former FBI director.
I mean, these are two significant indictments before or John Bolton.
Now this is happening from with the Justice Department in
John Bolton. By the way, Rashini an interesting little factory.

(01:32:10):
I talked about this yesterday on the show. Lindsay Halligan,
the US attorney who indicted James Comey and Letitia James.
I'm not sure if she's behind the indictment of John
Bolton or not, but I went to college with her
at Regis University. In fact, we were in a class
in the US Supreme Court where it was just the
two of us as students in that class.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
Why are you going to get her on the show, Jimmy, I.

Speaker 7 (01:32:34):
Want to pursue that and see if it's possible. She
has been very tight lipped. I've not seen any interviews
with her, certainly on television since she took on the
role of US.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
We stime those federal prosecutors, they're never they're never going
to do that, right I A former boyfriend of mine
is the US attorney for one of the states in
our country, and they're just not going to go into
the media. But perhaps you can work that angle from your.

Speaker 7 (01:33:00):
Path that That is something I have been thinking about
since she was appointed to that role. But let's shift
over to free speech.

Speaker 6 (01:33:08):
I mean, I know you.

Speaker 7 (01:33:09):
And I both are very staunch advocates for the First Amendment,
for the freedom of speech and for the freedom of
the press. Well, most of the outlets in the Pentagon
media outlets have walked out, basically turned in their credentials
and said, we're not going to comply with new restrictions

(01:33:33):
on our reportage by put in place by the Secretary
of Defense, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. And this is
stunning because it's I think thirty five different outlets that
have done this, one American News being the only one
willing to sign a pledge. Can you break down what
this is about in your overarching take and then we'll

(01:33:55):
dive in deeper.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Well, the thing that we have to understand is the
First Amendment, and especially free speech makes America America. There
is probably no other country in the world that not
only protects free speech, but it's part of our very brand,
and very close to that is freedom of the press.
I mean, it really intermingles with free speech in a

(01:34:20):
way that as an ex pev reporter myself, I'll say
is a very beautiful thing and it's what helped me
to do what I did for my viewers for nearly
a decade as a reporter.

Speaker 16 (01:34:30):
And you know, you do investigations, you need to be.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
Able to talk to different sources, and no one is
really out there scrutinizing that. You just go talk to
the sources, you take up the facts, and the moment
a governmental body tells the media you can't do this
or you need an escort, which is what hag Seth
was saying, that starts to become suspicious. And it is

(01:34:54):
suspicious because part of the media. The role is to
be a watch over all of those governmental bodies, whether
it's the Pentagon, whether it's the White House, whether it's Congress,
and the moment, we don't feel like our media, our
free press, can do that. That's the beginning of some
really big problems for the United States of America, which

(01:35:18):
is known for free speech and free press.

Speaker 16 (01:35:20):
So this has nothing to do with politics. I'm very
politically neutral. No matter who is in office, they should
not be.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
Restricting free press and the first step of doing it
and free speech, but free press.

Speaker 16 (01:35:33):
Especially because reporters dig up things that we don't need
to know all of how they're doing it. As long
as they're doing it legally right and as long.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
As they're fair and they're being accurate and making sure
they're not publishing mistruths and lies, then we need to
let the media do its shop.

Speaker 7 (01:35:50):
Yeah. I made the comparison Rashini or as Kamara yesterday
in that respect along lines of what you just did,
addressing the investigations that I do. If I had to
go get approval from some of the school districts that
I cover, or the governor's office or what have you.
Before doing a story you just wouldn't get anywhere. And
I want to talk for a moment in terms of

(01:36:12):
the handling of a crisis about the way in which
the media outlets are doing this, including Newsmax and Fox
News and the Washington Examiner, right leaning outlets threatened by
the White House as well by President Trump in particular
saying we might kick you out. And it calls back
to the Obama era when the Obama administration circa twenty

(01:36:35):
thirteen spie On then Fox News reporter James Rosen and
all the media outlets New York Times, CNN, the rest
were like, no way, this is unacceptable. Isn't it encouraging
to see, regardless of party or political persuasion, that these
news outlets for the most part, would ban together and
say nope, we're not going to stand for this.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
It's really encouraging because what that says to all of
us is it doesn't matter which outlet, whether you think
it's a fair outlet or leans one way or the other.

Speaker 16 (01:37:06):
They all agree.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
So when that many differing kinds of outlets this day
of an age in our country can agree on something,
my money would be on all those who agree. So
you can already see. I was checking some of the
latest updates on that story out of the Pentagon and
they are dialing it back. They're rolling it back a
little bit. Jimmy, that's good to see. What if I

(01:37:30):
were asked, if I were coaching Pete Hegsts, I would say,
come out and just say this is done, we were
misunderstood or sorry, you know it's okay, roll it back
and let the media go on. Be in the media,
because the longer you hunkered down and double down, the
worst that looks for you, the administration and Pete Egcess.

Speaker 7 (01:37:52):
We're talking with Rashemi Raskamar, host of the Crisis Files podcast.
Check it out on the iHeartRadio app today and be
sure to subscribe. Rashini, I want to talk for a
moment about the government shut down. So this morning, my
colleague Ryan Schuling had filling in for Ross Kaminski, had
Senator Ted Cruz on the program and they talked about

(01:38:16):
the government shutdown and what's going on there from his perspective.
Here's a bit of what Cruz had to say. For
some reason, the clip is not playing at the moment,

(01:38:36):
but I will turn instead to Hakim Jeffries asked about
whether or not he would be willing to sit down
with the Speaker of the House. I think I've got
the right place for that clip.

Speaker 10 (01:38:47):
From Mike Johnson's office.

Speaker 8 (01:38:49):
I know exactly where you are.

Speaker 11 (01:38:50):
You could probably take a few steps and go knock
on the door and talk to him.

Speaker 12 (01:38:53):
Have you tried that?

Speaker 10 (01:38:55):
Sweca Johnson hasn't been given permission to have a conversation
with me Olida Schumer. He said as much earlier today,
So you don't.

Speaker 11 (01:39:03):
Think he would talk to you at all.

Speaker 10 (01:39:05):
We can have a conversation, but the problem is that
until they get the green light to actually have a
meaningful discussion to try to find common ground and a
bipartisan path forward and a willingness to address the damage
that Republicans have done to the health, the safety, and
the economic wellbeing of the American people, then of course
any informal discussion is going to be not fruitful.

Speaker 7 (01:39:26):
From the vantage point of a crisis strategist. For Shenie
Raj Kamar, how do you look at the politics and
what's happening with this shutdown.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
Well, it's not good for the American people, and it's
very obvious it's political. So if you can be seen
as a compromise, a voice of reason and compromise you're
going to come.

Speaker 16 (01:39:47):
Out ahead in the mid.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Term elections then beyond so, my recommendation as a crisis
strategist and preventor of more negativity here is each of
you as legislators need to look at yourselves and really
dig in and try to compromise and at least be
out there talking about how you're trying to do that.
The more they get partisan and bash the other side,

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the worst this is for them individually as elected officials,
and of course it's not good for the country.

Speaker 7 (01:40:20):
One other thing big news from the weekend is the
peace deal in Gaza, where we have this cessation of
violence of the war and you had Israel get the
twenty living hostages back. They've now had a handful of
the deceased hostages still held by Hamas.

Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
Returned in exchange.

Speaker 7 (01:40:41):
Israel of course sending multiple thousands, I think like two
thousand prisoners that they've held of Palestinians since the beginning
of the war. With October seventh, and that terrible onslaught
on October seventh, twenty twenty three by Hamas on Israel,
the worst attack on the Jewish people sent the Holocaust
and President Trump getting bipartisan praise and I think rightly

(01:41:05):
so for brokering this. What do you make of it
and how he has handled this especially, I mean he
spoke to the Israeli knness it and then went to
a peace summit with golf Arab countries.

Speaker 16 (01:41:17):
Yeah, and I think that that is great.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
That's what he should be doing. He should be trying
to spread peace and at least diplomacy around the world.
It doesn't always mean the people are going to accept
you and what you're saying. We were seeing Iran really
bashing the US and the president after his extension of
the olive branch.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
So to speak.

Speaker 16 (01:41:39):
But it is good that he's doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
What I would recommend to President Trump is that he
not look for affirmation and that he not looked for
tooting his and he not toot his own horn, because
the optics right themselves, the story rights itself. The optics
are good. That he's trying. He's trying to do something
that has been tried before, and you know, sometimes there's
minimal success or temporary success. We really are at the

(01:42:05):
place where we could have huge success in the Middle East.
And if that goes down as part of Donald Trump's legacy,
that's a really good thing. I want that for him,
I want that really for the country. I want that
for the Middle East. But this is also where egos
need to stay calm and down and maybe out of
the storyline, and we're going to have a much better

(01:42:26):
and more authentic process. Jimmy, one of the.

Speaker 6 (01:42:28):
Things I liked about his speech the kanessant.

Speaker 7 (01:42:29):
I don't know if you caught any of it, but
he really just sang the praises of other people who
were involved in this, including Steve Whitcoff, the Special Envoy
to the Middle East, his son in law Jared Kushner,
who honestly has played a significant role in this and
also in the Abraham Accords, a Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
and others. And I like that when you're giving credit

(01:42:51):
to the team that made this possible and really spending
a lot of time doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:57):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 16 (01:42:58):
Those are the kinds.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
Of things that college showcasing all the actors who played
in it, make it about all of the people that
are helping making this come to be come to pass.
We really have an opportunity for something that's beyond bipartisan.
It's very global and international. If we can have some
positive things happening here now, I.

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
Would be remiss.

Speaker 7 (01:43:19):
I want to have a little fun as we wrap
up our conversation with you, Rashini Rajskumar, host of the
Crisis Files podcast. Tomorrow, here in studio, we will have
Colorado Springs based country music artist Michael Sweat, who has
founded the Mountain West Country Music Association.

Speaker 6 (01:43:40):
He'll be in studio with his guitar.

Speaker 7 (01:43:43):
We'll be talking about the association and jamming some music.
I'll have my briefcase full of blues, ready to play
some country, ready to play some harmonica.

Speaker 6 (01:44:02):
It's just fun music.

Speaker 7 (01:44:03):
You gotta love it, Rashinie, rash Kumar, you gotta love it.

Speaker 16 (01:44:07):
I only wish I could be there with my cowboy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
Hat and boots on in studio with you.

Speaker 7 (01:44:11):
Jim, Well, you know what, if I'm able to come
out in April to your next big shindy, get them
all of America, you better believe I'll bring my briefcase
full of blues. They are with me.

Speaker 6 (01:44:20):
Oh, that would be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
Maybe you could play the after party.

Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
Actually, that would be a blast. We'll see we'll see
what can happen in that regard. Rashini Raj Kumar check
out the podcast on iHeartRadio app. Thanks so much for
joining us.

Speaker 16 (01:44:36):
Thank you, Jimmy.

Speaker 7 (01:44:38):
That is it for me today. Back in the saddle
one more time tomorrow from noon to three. Be sure
to tune in then as I feel in for Mandy Connell.
Have a great rest of your day and make God
bless America.