10-22-25 FULL SHOW - A JeffCo Schools Candidate Had Issues, And Is Love Blind

A JeffCo candidate has lost a union endorsement, plus a Love is Blind cast member spills the beans, and Denver sues the Trump admin...again

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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in the afternoon KOA Sports. In the meantime, though, boy howdy,
do we have a lot of stuff to talk about.
I got a ton of stuff on the blog. I
can already tell you Nancy's not going to be happy

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with this one either. Okay, I go as fast as
I can. I do, I really do. We also have
some great guests today, and it's going to be one
of those shows where we have something kind of intellectual,
we have something political, and we have something completely off

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Everybody find the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com.
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Speaker 6 (01:25):
Look for the headline that.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
Says ten twenty two twenty five blog a Jeff Coo
Schools candidate at issues and is love Blind?

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Click on that. Here are the headlines you will find within.

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I do you with office half of American all with
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Going to press plant.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Today? On the blog Jeff cot school voters pay attention today?
Did you watch Denver's Love Is Blind? Finale? Looking for
affordable healthcare? Denver is suing over grant conditions, taxes, equal fees,
equal tariffs, a new wildfire defense system for homes. Doug
Cooe Schools pay attention scrolling scrolling. Another violent person is

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allowed to kill Shucker the all dang and it is
supposed to be the Johnstown Breeze is run by a
nasty lefty real estate Socialism is still socialism? Want to
abort a baby the day before the due date? Now
it's John Brennan's turn on the hot seat. Missed Love
is Blind? I'm not the only one who noticed this
about no kings, Let's talk about how you walk sucks

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when the facts don't match the narrative you're spinning. The
folly of no Enemies to the right screen club is
now a thing. The Joy of Testosterone for women blow
eleven hundred bucks on shoes. The company says no AI
in its ads. What net zero looks like in practice.
Bernie Sanders gets schooled by the view. Dude finds out

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he's gonna have to get a job. I'm not paying taxes,
so these clowns can retire early. Arvada wants you to
booze it up, don't clean. October is your month. Garrett
Bowles wanted to catch a touchdown. What are your relationship?
Rich Will?

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I'm the cutest Halloween costume ever?

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Goes with the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot.

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Com tech two.

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Seriously, that old broad she's getting really picky.

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In her old ash.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Dang it, man, going as fast as I can.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Nancy can't help.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
But if there's a lot of information that I need
to impart to the four people who read the blog
every day. By the way, if you ever want to
it is the Johns soundbrae. I'll fix it. I'll fix it,
you guys. Somebody pointed that out earlier and I just
didn't have time to go fix it. And now I
will fix it on the break cuz I got to
here a little late today.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
One of those days. You ever just have one of
those days.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
We're just feeling a little running late the whole day yesterday, Yeah,
I have.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
It's this morning. I've been running a little late.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
I had to get gas faster than I ever got
gas yesterday. I had to be one of those I
was right off the highway and then put them right
back on in like sixty seconds.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
How like a pitstop?

Speaker 8 (03:56):
Yes woot.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Taking her wheels off and putting new ones on and
everything out of it.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
My car would have still finished top five, top ten
in that rate.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
How big is your gas tank?

Speaker 8 (04:06):
Not very big? I mean we're talking three fifty four
hundred miles.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
That But for that car, I'm guessing sixteen gallons.

Speaker 8 (04:14):
Like sixteen gallons, same amount of gas miles, well not
gas mileage, same amount of gas that gets me going somewhere,
as my Explorer was right, But I unlike the Explorer
nineteen twenty miles per gallon, I get thirty miles per.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Gallon exactly, so much better, Yeah, much better. My gas
tank is twenty six gallons. And when I'm in Thelign
at Costco the people get so annoyed, and I'm like,
I swear I'm still fueling. Don't worry.

Speaker 8 (04:41):
You won't see me for a month. Seriously, I fell
up like two and a half times a week. Wow, yeah,
at least twice.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
Holy macaroni, Kay, Holy.

Speaker 8 (04:52):
And a half hours. Three hours. And the Carl Dudia, Oh,
that's just work.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
You just hurt my heart. Yeah, it hurt my heart
a little bit.

Speaker 8 (04:59):
Yeah. Well I'm kind of join the sub three gas
right now. So yeah, there you go, keep it going.
Gas prices are ticking down. I saw a story about
that today. I did not put it on the blog.
I should have, but I did.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Have an experience that I did mention this on the
blog because I've got a video of George Stephanopolis talking
to the CEO of Walmart. Okay, and George stephanoppflis kind
of tease up this question about Thanksgiving and it kind
of starts it with I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but he
kind of starts it along the lines of, now that
everything's so expensive, what are people gonna have to shill

(05:33):
out for Thanksgiving this year?

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Some variation of that, you know, and.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
The Walmart CEO is like, Oh, we've got this basket
that includes everything you'd want for Thanksgiving. It's got your stuffing,
it's got your turkey, it's about everything. And he said
it's fourteen dollars cheaper this year than it was last year.
Uh oh, sorry, George, sorry, the turkey.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Price is going up. That was last year's news.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
That was or we'll just call it button admin rules.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
So that was interesting. I've got that on the blog.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
But no, I went to the grocery store Monday, and
I meant to talk about this because I went to
the grocery store and I buy pretty much the same thing.
I mean, you, guys, you realize when you go grocery shopping,
you're buying pretty much the same things over and over again. Right,
So if you're like me and your price sensitive, you
pay attention to how much things cost when you're buying
the same things over and over again. And I got

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to tell you, like a lot of the things that
I buy a lot of have dropped in price, some
of them dramatically. I buy this turkey sausage, it's dropped
by like like ninety cents and not an on sale price,
like the normal price is ninety cents lower than it was.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
So I feel like I know.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
That prices are going up on other things. I get it,
but there are some areas where it's starting to feel
like am I just the only one that felt that way?
Has anyone else noticed that with their grocery bill?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I know?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Is the text line, go ahead and text me there?
What's interesting is, look, I now look at how many
groceries I get for whatever amount of money. Right, It's like, oh,
I got that, I got that for one hundred and
thirty dollars.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
You know, I'm I'm now one hundred years old, apparently.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
So that's how you deal with rising prices, is you
just you just talk about them as if you know,
as if as if there's some kind of fantasy that
you can't control.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Sub three dollars gas?

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Lol, I haven't seen above three dollars in my town. Well,
aren't you with smarty pants? My ram says this text
for my Ram thirty five hundred has a fifty gallon
fuel tank. For being a giant ass truck, it actually
gets great fuel mileage unloaded.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
You think about people at Costco.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Getting pissed if I'm a quarter to half a tank
where I've had them blow the horn. Lol.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
Well, now see what I have, like a mom car.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
At least when I see a big truck, it's reasonable
to say, well, that truck has a really big gas tank.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
But when you look at my mom car, I.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Basically have a glorified station wagon crossover thing. Nobody looks
at that and says, well, that thing probably has a
pretty good tank in that. I mean, look at that.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Nobody does that. No one.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
The funniest thing that ever happened to me driving a
car that was unexpected. I was driving a loaner car
when my car was in the shop, and it was
a Mercedes like Mom car, but it was a diesel.
So I pulled up the diesel pump on the end
at the convenience store where the diesel pumps usually are,
and this guy in a big truck comes rolling around.
He's like, could you have used another pump? And I

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just pointed to the car and went it's diesel, and
he was like, oh man, I'm sorry, so sorry. It's like,
there you go, Mandy stuck up when right Brand Bacon
goes on saying are you kidding me? I have a
freezer full of righte brand bacon Because of that. You
really don't know how thrifty I am. So Mandy has
three more blog viewers than she does listeners go darn touton.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Yeah, probably probably, Man.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
I had a flat at the tunnels this morning.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
What no sympathy?

Speaker 5 (09:07):
I am so sorry, Texter, so sorry. Whatever I said
was wrong with my day. Your day is worse. There
you go, Yes, Mandy, you're the only one food except chicken.
What Mandy? Our price is dropping dramatically or grammatically? Haven't
seen prices go down Kings super shopper? I had not

(09:29):
either until Monday. And then, like I said, I because
we've been out of town. So I had to stalk
up on some staples, right, the staples that you buy
all the time, and I noticed, how whoa some of
these are a lot cheaper. Now, let me tell you
what's coming up on the show today, because we got
a lot coming up on the show. First of all,
at twelve thirty, if you heard us talking about Love

(09:50):
is Blind yesterday, well we got one of the contestants
on Love is Blind. The finale dropped at midnight. A
Rod is not watched it yet, so this is hilarious.
So a Rod is going to have to listen to
me do an interview without any spoilers, even though because
I read this recap, I already know what happened. So

(10:13):
we're gonna have her on and I'm dying to just
ask questions about what makes people want to do a
show like this. I'm curious. I'm very, very curious about that.
So we're gonna do that at twelve thirty at one o'clock,
Lindsay Datko from jeff Co Kids First. We've got some
we got some fun stuff in jeff Co Schools and again,
what are we doing. We're paying attention to the school

(10:35):
board races today it's jeff Co's turn.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
The union had endorsed some candidates. Well, they have now rescinded.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Their endorsement of one of them after some unpleasant business
from that candidate's past was brought to the attention of
jeff Co Kids First, who did a very good job
in sharing the information in such a way as to
be sensitive to the nature of the churches. We're going
to talk to Lindsay dat COO about that and the

(11:03):
current Jefferson County Public Schools Board of Education member and
your comments about safety being a privilege not a right,
that was in the first meeting back from the Evergreen shooting,
by the way, and then.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
I am so nerded out.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
And I love this so much because if you guys
have listened to the show, you've heard Travis Bokenstead on
the show before, and you may have heard that some
people are going to see rates go up in this
open enrollment period for their health insurance.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
I want to offer you options.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
We do have free market solutions here in Denver, We
really do, and I have two of them coming on
the show today. I have Travis Bocknstead. He is with
a company Pinnacle Advanced primary Care. They do direct primary care.
It is the best system. It is so affordable and
coupled with a MENA share plan and you can get

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coverage for everything. And I cannot recommend it highly enough.
It is not health insurance. It is access to health care. Okay,
I want to be really clear, and we'll get into
this later. But now I just found out about another
medical practice called Smith Medical. Wait, let me hang on,
let me make sure I get this this name right.

(12:23):
Make sure I got this absolutely right. Smith Medical Direct
Specialty Care. Now, if you've listened to the show for
any length of time, you may have heard me talk
about the Oklahoma surgeon of the Oklahoma City Surgical Center.
The Oklahoma City Surgical Center was the first place in
the country to say, Okay, here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna we're gonna open a surgical center with really
good doctors, and then we're gonna make everything cash pay. Okay,

(12:45):
we're gonna just say you're gonna cash pay and go
from there, and and we're gonna make a website and
we're gonna put all of our prices on that website.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
And that's what they did.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
So not only is it absolutely transparent pricing, they have
also had a downward effect on the hospitals in the
immediate vicinity of the Oklahoma City Surgical Center when it
comes to what they can now expect to charge for
those same surgeries. Well, I found out we've got one here.
So today Travis Backinstead from Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care and

(13:19):
CEO Lisa Fagan from Smith Medical Direct Specialty Care are
going to be on to talk about how you can
have access to incredible medical care without breaking the bank.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
So lots of good stuff happening there. That's coming up
at two thirty.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
So as you can see we've got a very busy show,
and I have all this other stuff on the blog
that we're probably not going to get to, but I
want to get in one school board story really quickly.
There's a great article, and what are we talking about
school board races?

Speaker 6 (13:49):
For you guys. Three things.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Number one, you got kids in schools and you don't
want them to suck. Number Two, you don't have kids
in schools, but you own property in the district and
you want to make sure you're getting a return on
all of those property taxes that you're paying. And number three,
if you want a vibrant economy, you must have a
vibrant public school system. Companies look at that when they're

(14:11):
moving people to new places. It is a big part.
If you have a large workforce. You're expecting a large workforce,
especially of young people. You want to make sure that
our schools are good. And I'll add in number four.
These people are going to be in charge of your
nursing homes when you're old, so let's make sure they're
getting a decent education. Okay, that's why we're paying attention
to school board races. I've got something in Douglas County

(14:34):
I thought was super interesting. There's a lot of questions,
and there's a CBS four story on the two different
slates of candidates that are running, and one of the
things that I jumped out of me actually was a
comment from one of the union.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Back to candidates.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
There are four candidates running that the Douglas County Federation
has endorsed and that the AMERICA or a American Teaching
what is it ATF American Teachers Associate Federation. I can't
remember what ATF stands for. They are four candidates. One

(15:12):
of them is I believe his name is Brian Callahan.
He's quoted in this story for CBS saying no one
on our slate has committed to a collective bargaining agreement.
What I think we are really eager to do is
to sit down and listen to teachers and all educators
and listen to what they need to be successful in
the classroom and working with our kids.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
Okay, that sounds good.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
The reason that's important, and especially in Douglas County is
Douglas County did away with their collective bargaining agreement many
years ago, and since then they have ascended to the
top of the heap both in the metro area, they
are the highest performing school district, and they have also
done that for every school district of their size in
the state. So I was surprised to hear that when

(15:56):
I have a letter from the Douglas County Federation that says,
in endorsing the four candidates, they endorse it. We believe
electing these four candidates who are running as a slate
will give us the best chance of restoring collective bargaining
and getting a contract.

Speaker 9 (16:13):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
But that's not all, then, the ATF whatever, the Teachers
Federation American Teachers Federation, they sent out in their newsletter
information about the various candidates.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
And they break it down.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Candidate number one has made it very clear she would
fight for educators to secure a strong and binding contract.
Candidate two, and this is a quote, by the way,
from the newsletter they sent out. While supportive, he was
more cautious about how publicly vocal he would be during
the election cycle, not shouting it from the rooftops. He

(16:51):
understands that his public position on collective bargaining while trying
to get elected is different from his public stance one elected.
Now Candidate number three, this is what they said. Admitted
she has green in certain areas, but demonstrated openness and
a genuine desire to grow into the role. Non committal

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candidate for mister Callahan, who said none of the candidates
had committed to a collective bargaining agreement, appeared open to
the idea but hesitant to commit publicly at this time.
Emphasized he would not make decisions without input from staff
and wanted to hear directly from district educators before fully deciding.
Also an open mind, but it's hard to say that

(17:35):
the other two have not at least signaled to the
union their intention to bring back a collective bargaining agreement
while telling the public something different. So I just think
take that into account because all of these races matter.
You guys, If you want to know how our schools

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have gone insane, it's because we stopped paying attention to
school boarding. You want to know why kids think that
they can change gender when they're three, because we stop
paying attention to school board races. I mean, that's people
talk about getting the culture back. We have to get
the schools into some semblance of a political life.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
That's all I want from schools.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
I don't want schools to never have any teachers who
lean left. I don't want any of that. I don't
want to know the politics of a single person who
works at a school. That's what I want for my kids,
and we don't have that now, and we don't have
leadership in these districts that wants the same thing. So, okay,
here's what's gonna happen. We're gonna take a very quick
time out. I'm gonna fix my mistake on the blog,

(18:40):
and then we're going to come back with one of
the contestants cast members. I guess they should say from
the now wrapped up season of Love is Blind Denver.
So we're going to do that next. Keep it right
here on KWA. We've got to get into this.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
First of all, Madison Maidenberg, welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
You were one of the contestants on Love Is Blind,
and I have to ask this question, what makes someone
You're an attractive woman, what makes someone go, you know
what I'm gonna I'm just gonna sign up to get
married on television. What was that thought process like for you?

Speaker 6 (19:14):
It's a great question. You know, I've always watched Love
is Blind.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
I absolutely loved the concept and the experiment, and you know,
with my eye condition, I have something called retinitis pigmentosa
and it is considered a blinding eye disease.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
So I really wanted to.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
Go on the show because it simulates what my life
could be like if I were to lose my vision,
and it was just incredible to be able to kind
of get a taste of that and feel that.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Out in this experiment.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
So now that you're on the other side of it,
the show has aired, we cannot have any spoilers, by
the way, because Anthony and his friends, you are die
hard fans, they're not watching until tonight, So we'll just pretend.
We'll just talk around what you know, things that happened
or didn't happen. We'll just leave it all out there.
But i'd love to know from your perspective, now that
you've seen how they edit you, they see what happens.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
What do you think you would you do it again?

Speaker 7 (20:04):
You know, honestly, I would do this experiment a thousand
times over. I mean, just the amount of personal growth
that I got from this, it's insurmountable and I.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Could have never expected it.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
You know, obviously my story didn't end with a fairy
tale ending the way I.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Would have hoped.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
But I always say I really did find love in
the Pods, and that was through the incredible women that
were there that've become my personal Pod squad, and also
just the love that.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
I found in myself.

Speaker 8 (20:30):
Madison, we have been talking so much on the show
over the really the course of years, from textures that
say that the love scene, the dating scene in Denver
is notoriously just one of the worst, if not the worst,
in the country. What do you say to those out
there that say that this season of Love is Blind
did not really help that narrative?

Speaker 7 (20:51):
Uh, you know, unfortunately, I feel like our season did
not do my native state the service.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
That it should have been done.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
But you know, the Denver dating scene has been called
Menver for a reason, and you know, there are definitely
a few Peter Pans out there, But I think overall,
really Denver gets such a bad rap, and I want
to set the record straight that it's not as bad
as our season.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
You know, and the season wrapped up last night. Did
you guys already film the reunion show? Because I got
to tell you when I was a high consumer of
reality television. I lived for the reunion shows because that's
when the crap really hit the fan, right, That's when
the real stuff came out.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Did you guys already film the reunion?

Speaker 7 (21:32):
We did, and it's coming out next week October twenty ninth.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Wow. So, now did you learn anything about yourself in
this process that maybe you weren't expecting in terms of
what you saw on the screen and you were like, wow,
didn't know that came across that way?

Speaker 6 (21:48):
I mean, how how?

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Because I can't even imagine putting myself out there like that.
That's that's a level of brave I just don't have.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Oh, I appreciate that, Mandy. You know, honestly, I learned
a lot about myself watching it back. It's definitely it's
a little bit of a humbling experience. You know, there's
certain moments they are like, gosh, I didn't realize that
my face did that, or you know, wow, I didn't
realize that maybe my total voice came across as this,
or you know whatever. But I'd say the biggest thing
that I learned from this is to really trust my intuition.

(22:15):
You know, there was so much there that I could
have leaned into and read a little bit better than
I did in the moment. So I really learned to
trust my intuition, lean into my gut, you know, and
really truly not let myself be influenced as much by
other people's words.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
Well, Madison, a good follow up to that is, I'm
sure you've heard over the years having watched Love Is
Buying the horror stories that people have in terms of
issues with their portrayal on the show. Do you feel
like the producers the show gave you a good representation
or do you feel like maybe you fell more into
that camp of you don't feel like you were portrayed
the way that you had hoped based on having the
fact that they pick and choose what they want to show.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
You know, I will.

Speaker 7 (22:55):
Say, in general, I'm really proud of the way that
Love is Blind handles editing. They're really good about kind
of capturing the essence of who people are and the
essence of what conversations are. So, you know, in general,
do I think maybe my edit shows me being a
little bit more clinging, a little bit more needy than
I really am. Yes, But I think it's also important
to note that I was operating from a space of insecurity,

(23:18):
you know, because of some of the things that Joe had.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
Said on camera.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
So you know, as far as the edit goes in general,
I think that you do get a sense for us
as people, but you don't see all of the other
moments that kind of create the whole story.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Right.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Did you follow along with any of the online stuff,
because I know reality shows those like chat areas, message boards, whatever,
they can be brutal. Did you pay attention to any
of that?

Speaker 7 (23:46):
Honestly, Manny, I cannot stay out of the comments section.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
I know everyone tells me not to, but damn, it's
so fun. Sometimes people are so creative. But I love that.
I love your attitude about that because it's tough. And
one of the things that I always say about my
job being in talk radio over the years, like I
have the thickest skin in the world. Nothing affects me
if you attack me personally, nothing, I promise you it

(24:13):
does not affect me. So at a young age, you
now have had that experience and let it toughen you up.
It's much easier to go through the world when you
have a little bit of a thick skin. What advice
would you give for someone else before going on.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
A show like Love is Blind.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
You know.

Speaker 7 (24:32):
My advice would be really good, get a very good
sense of who you are and really know who your
character is at your core, because there are going to
be so many voices and so many different opinions, and
if you can really just stay grounded in what you
know to be true about yourself, then it makes it
so much easier to deal with the trolls, you.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Know, Madison last one for me and I've been nice
and cordial throughout this, but we got to talk about
Tom some tea at the end of this thing, because
this season was absolutely bonkers storylines glor or whether be
Edmund making out with the floor, whether it be Joe's
scene with you in the hotel room making it seem
like he was just off the rails watching this thing back.
It could be whether it be you and Joe or

(25:12):
any other couple up to the finale. What were some
of your favorite and most funny highlights that you remember
from this season.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Oh, my favorite and most funny highlights. I mean, honestly,
one of the funny moments for me was like when
we were in the pods and We're trying to have
this deep conversation and we have this box of like
games and toys, and there was this one toy that
kept making the most obnoxious sounds and We're like in
the middle of a very deep conversation and it just
keeps me like bop it, twist it, you know whatever,

(25:40):
and I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 8 (25:41):
So it got to the point that.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
I ended up throwing it out of the pod and
when I came back out, it's gone.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
You know.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
It's just kind of funny.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
Seeing the behind the scenes a little bit of just
how the machine kind of works.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
That was definitely a funny moment.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
You know.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
Another one that was funny when we were in Mexico
kind of filming that whole scene with all the group.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
We actually had one on ones with each.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
Other guy and with you know, the guys with each
other girl.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
And I was trying to go down the stairs and
production told me that there was like five stairs and
there were.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Six, and I fully wiped out, you know.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
And it's just kind of like these silly, little.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
Very human moments that you just don't see as much
that make it kind of an interesting behind the scenes.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
And I lied, I have I'd be remiss if I
didn't ask. At the end of the day, how much
better do you feel knowing the response has been so positive?
You mentioned Team Madison at the end of the day.
How really grateful for yourself and your growth at as
a person in all reality? Are you glad that you
did not go to the altar with Joe because he's
bad news? Uh?

Speaker 7 (26:44):
You know, I always say Joe really did me a favor,
And you know, I'm thankful that things ended when they
did because I am absolutely a true lover girl and
when I'm in something, I'm in something and I want
to see it all the way through. So at the
end of the day, you know, thank you, Joe gave
me the favor I couldn't do myself.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
Yes, thank you, Walmart Brand, knockoff Bone, NICKX. We appreciate that.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
That did not happen, Madison Maidenburg.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Thanks for your time today and best of luck and
all you do in the future.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Madison. And you know I couldn't do it. I just
I could not do it.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
But you know what, A Rod and his friends are
sure glad you did that because the show you guys
so much, right.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
I appreciate you so much, Madison.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
All right, you gotta do that a rod, because I
am going to take a quick time out and when
I get back, I have so much stuff on the
blog today, but I want to talk about something that's
just cool. Right.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
It's not controversial, it's just cool.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
And this is one of those things that we don't
have enough of happening right now. A couple of guys
whose home was almost well, I don't want to say
it came uncomfortably close to the tarbag and fire, or
rather the tarmaic and fire came uncomfortably close to his

(27:58):
family's home as at Silverthorne. So he said, you know what,
We're going to create a way to protect homes in
a wildfire. I'm going to tell you about it when
we get back. It's super super cool. Listen to this story.
I love this so much. I think this is so cool.
For whatever reason. I love the idea of kind of

(28:19):
an inventor, right, like you know, an inventor sitting just
tinkering in his garage. Two graduates from Colorado's Summit High
School who grew up watching wildfires threaten the mountain hometowns.
They're leading the way to help homeowners protect their properties.
Their company Defense Delivered builds fully autonomous wildfire sprinkler systems

(28:43):
that can detect heat from approaching flames and sparks and
automatically hose down a home in targeted areas to ideally
prevent it from burning dustin dolamor As the CEO, he
said he got the idea after his home was uncomfortably
close to the Ptarmigan fire. He said, when we experience

(29:03):
that fire, the feeling of helplessness that really nothing could
be done, it drove us to make a working solution.
We've essentially returned to the community we were raised in
to try and give it back.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
The camera use or the system.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Uses thermal cameras to sense heat and activate sprinklers, but
only when needed. They spray about thirty five gallons of
water permanent per zone. That efficiency doesn't put too much
strain on municipal water systems who are trying to fight
fires other places. We saw what happened in California. They

(29:37):
just everybody hit it at the same time and they
just didn't have any water. So they're trying to make
sure they're not creating an undew burden. I love that
The division chief Matthew Benedict with Red, White, and Blue
Fire Protection District said, we have to be smart with
every drop of water. A system like this that uses
about thirty five gallons a minute, that's a low drag

(29:59):
on the municipal system and it can make a real difference.
Unlike traditional sprinkler systems that are on top of houses
for wildfire defense, defense delivered setup is designed to withstand
Colorado's high altitude climate. It automatically drains itself to prevent
freeze damage and can operate year round.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
This is so cool, so so cool. And here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
You know, I realized that homes are full of all
kinds of family things and heirlooms that can't be replaced.
But I'm not sure I would want my home to
survive if everything else around it burned down. I know
that sounds crazy, but I also don't live there full time.
If I had a mountain house, it would not be
my primary home, so it wouldn't have all of my
you know, super special valuables in it. So I don't know.

(30:45):
I just love stuff like this, and I'm interested to
see how homeowner's insurance is affected by this because there
is a lot of trouble in the sort of urban
rural interface areas in the actual wildlife areas and wilder
areas of Colorado for homeowners being able to get reasonably
priced homeowners insurance, and a lot of the homeowners that

(31:09):
I have known who lived in the mountains or in
the foothills spend an awful lot of their time just
doing wildfire mitigation, chopping down trees, making sure brush was managed,
you know, things of that nature. I think this just
sounds like a game changer. That's just that's really really good,
and it looks like it can be completely retrofitted. One
of the problems with sprinkler systems overall internally in your house.

(31:34):
We have friends who suffered a horrific tragedy their home
burned down and they lost their daughter into granddaughters in
the fire. And they're big advocates for sprinkler systems inside homes,
which is great, that's the gold standard for fire suppression
in a home, but it's not reasonable if you've already

(31:54):
built your home, it's hard to go back and retrofit.
This looks like they can just slap it on the
outside and call a day. I love that they saw
a problem the experience to need and now they're solving it.
I bet they make a billion dollars and I support
them one hundred percent in their endeavors. Well done, young men,
Well done. All right, when we get back, we have

(32:16):
several things on the blog. I want to follow up
a little bit.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
On the No Kings.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
I wasn't the only one to notice who actually went
to the No Kings rallies around the country.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
I was right in my assessment, by the way.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
But I also want to talk about a story I
had yesterday. But I think it's so cool that I
want to talk about it in the middle of the show.
When you guys are supposed to be paying attention, do
you realize that there is a strong bit of evidence
that guys, especially we can watch you walk and know
if you can fight.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
I'll explain after this.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
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Speaker 10 (32:58):
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Speaker 6 (33:16):
Keeping a sad thing well FOOTBALLCA.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Welcome to the second hour of the show. And because
the theme until the election is pay attention to school board.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Races, we continue with that.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Only we're jumping over to Jefferson County, where one formerly
endorsed by the teachers' union candidate has lost that endorsement
in part because of the very delicate work of an
organization called jeff Co Kids First and joining me now
from that organization, Lindsay, Dadco, Hi, Lindsay, Hey Manby, I

(33:49):
corrected the information that you sent me. My blog is
a disaster today, just misspelling all over the place. It's
been a nightmare just getting it up and running. And
I have no one to blame about myself.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
But thank you. Welcome back to Yeah, welcome back to
the show. First of all, thank you so much. Well,
let's talk about the.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Jeffco school board race, but only in the context of
your organization, which has been really critical of the current
superintendent for a lot of very very good reasons. I
might add, you have you came into possession of some
information about one of the candidates running for Jefferson County

(34:29):
school Board who had been endorsed by the union, and
I'd like you to I don't want to, I just
want to have you lay out what happened and what
has happened since then.

Speaker 11 (34:40):
Yeah, Well, we heard directly from contacts of more than
one victim of this school board candidate named Michael Yoakam,
and we became very concerned knowing how direct these these
contacts were. We actually listened to our recording at.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
A board forum.

Speaker 11 (35:01):
Where he admitted to a sexual offense as a juvenile
and a deferred adjudication, which means that someone is found
guilty or pleased guilty as long.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
As they and as long as they meet certain.

Speaker 11 (35:14):
Rehabilitative steps, their actual sentences deferred for a few years,
and it can be dismissed and those records can be filed.
And so that is what occurred here. There's actually Colorado
state law that provides avenues for records to be unsealed
when someone seeks public office, and we began a very

(35:36):
direct and careful process to alert the community of what
the candidate himself admitted to. The circumstances are tragic. The
facts behind it are extremely serious. This is not a
Romeo and Juliet case, a term that I've been people
have been asking about indicating was this an eighteen year
old and a seventeen year type thing. No, this was

(35:58):
far more serious. It would potentially present a major conflict
for him to hold public office, especially in a decision
making role over over children. And let me just mention too,
I was notified that a constituent, aware of the circumstances,
quietly asked him to step.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Down on September thirtieth, and eight.

Speaker 11 (36:19):
Days after that, we noticed this candidate still intended to
continue running. We launched a deliberate and careful process, as
we said, to alert the public, alerted the campaign manager.
The same constituent did, and we noticed then that JCEA,

(36:39):
which is the teachers union, withdrew their enforcement of him.
So they must have also seen the gravity of this situation.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Well, and what's interesting is they did not endorse him
until they took a shot at your organization for having
the temerity to actually point out that this person And
am I. I don't want to get into the details
of the case. And I'm assuming you know the details
of the case. What are these are sexual crimes that
involved children? Is that what we're talking about?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
That is what we're talking about.

Speaker 12 (37:09):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
I want to be as clear as I can without
being too clearly, you know.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
So you're the problem for pointing out that a school
board candidate has this in his history.

Speaker 11 (37:21):
Oh yeah, The first paragraph of their statement said that
they failed. Basically, it was a procedural error.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
So they were withdrawing. They called it their recommendation, which
was clearly watering down what this is.

Speaker 11 (37:34):
This was an endorsement and a full funding. We're talking
potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on their candidates,
so to call it a recommendation, it was definitely watering
that down. But the second paragraphs then called those who
who brought this forward extremists, and so they blamed their

(37:54):
vetting process rather than the unacceptable risk children. And we
keep saying, if this makes us a political extremist, just
sign us up. Mandy Well, I want to.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Play something for you, Lindsay, and I want to play
it for the audience as well. This is why school
boards matter. I just want you guys to listen to
this sound bite. This is why I'm talking about school
boards and this kind of nonsense that you're about to
hear from the Jefferson County Board of Education by Aaron Kensworthy.
You are going to this is the kind of stuff
that's happening in school districts all over the area.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
So this is just indicative.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
This was the first board meeting back after the Evergreen
school shooting, when parents were obviously extremely concerned and looking
for answers about what the district was going to do
to ensure the safety of students.

Speaker 12 (38:43):
For one of the gentlemen, I wanted to say, safety
is actually a privilege. It is not a right, and
it cannot be guaranteed, which is incredibly hard for any
parent to say to their child, but it is true
in the culture and the time that we live in.
It's not just in schools. It is in movie theaters.
It's happening at grocery stores and in public parks and

(39:07):
also in schools.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
And so.

Speaker 12 (39:12):
I wish that I felt that I could walk through
this world entitled to safety, but I am not. And
there are people in this world who have never experienced
a feeling of safety and may not in their lifetime,
and so to expect that we can guarantee safety for
ourselves and for our children is an unfortunate untruths. We

(39:34):
just cannot guarantee it. We can do everything we can
to support it. That I wanted to say that because
safety absolutely is a privilege. Feeling safe is a privilege.
And ultimately I'm going to end with I'm very grateful
for those folks who showed up at public.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
So safety is a privilege.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
And in saying it like that, Lindsay, she essentially takes
the onus off with the Jefferson County school Board if
really working to really do their best to achieve a
modicum of safety at a high level so kids can
feel comfortable going to school. Why would kids go to
school if there's no effort, because well, you know what,
we can't, we can't and nobody can guarantee safety. She's
absolutely right about that, And at first I was like, well,

(40:19):
maybe she's going to say, you know, we can't expect
one hundred percent to guarantee safe, but then she went
in there are other people who never expect safety.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
This school board is a clown show.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
And I'm not asking you to to agree or disagree,
but man, does this school board need to be changed?

Speaker 6 (40:34):
It really really needs to be changed.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
And at least the good news is mister Yoakam has
lost the endorsement of the Jefferson County Education Association, But
that doesn't mean that they're not going to continue to
keep more people like this woman on the school board.
What was the were you at that meeting? Lindsey.

Speaker 11 (40:53):
You know I was listening. But Mandy, just minutes before
Evergreen parents who had children running their lives, in addition
to John Castillo, who's the father of Kendrick Castio, the
hero who died rushing the shooter at the sent school shooting,
spoke to the board and poured their hearts out. And
this was her message as someone on a governing board

(41:16):
of education.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
And let's just say the quiet part out loud. What
she's doing here is equating.

Speaker 8 (41:22):
Safety and DI.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
She's saying that safety is an equitable an equitable issue,
and that is a catastrophic view. These two terms collide
so catastrophically. But we know that this is the case
in jeffco because Evergreen High School was deprioritized and didn't

(41:45):
have an FRO assigned to them. And so she's basically
just reiterating what we've seen in jeff COO with the
placement of SROs, and we can't have children safety as
an equitable issue.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Well, I need to say the We played the audio,
but you guys didn't hear it because it was only
in one channel and it didn't go out on the radio.
Let me just tell you the audio in this audio
the school board member said that safety is a privilege,
not a right, that the school district cannot ensure the
safety of every student, which is true, but then she

(42:18):
went on to kind of excuse it as there are
people in this world do never feel safe, and applying
somehow that it's ridiculous for white people to expect to
be safe when there are people who are not in
their same situation who are safe. Ever, it's just the dumbest,
stupidest line of claptrap I've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Absolutely, and three TV news stations picked this up.

Speaker 11 (42:40):
It just went wild amongst community members. Her most important duty,
it's a very unique duty of care, is to assume
the responsibility in schools, you assume the responsibility of the
parent for a child safety. It's called in loco parentis
She mentioned grocery stores and movie theaters. Is not the

(43:00):
same as institutions that watch over our children safety for thirty.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Hours a week, say jeff Coe School's.

Speaker 11 (43:07):
Board member, it's unacceptable.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Amen to that, Lindsay, I appreciate everything that you guys
have done at jeff Co Kids first, and I've already
told my listeners that in my if I were in
Jefferson County. I would vote for Deneen at Shaveria, I
would vote for Samuel Myrat, and I would vote for
Gloria Terry Gascone for the school board and hopefully inject

(43:31):
some common sense. I think that the superintendent needs to
be replaced immediately because Jeff Coe's schools used to be
a powerhouse and they're still good. They're still good, but
if you look at what Cherry Creek is allowed to happen,
you don't want that to happen to Jeff co Right,
So those are my opinions, Lindsay, And I'm not going
to ask you to say anything because I know your

(43:51):
organization does not get involved in politics. You merely inform
people of things that happen, Lindsay, yat Co, I appreciate
your time today, Thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (43:59):
Any all right, have a good one.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
So important school board races so so so important. Okay, guys,
got a couple of things. We're done talking about school
board races for today. Got a couple of things. One
is that there is a small newspaper in Johnstown. I mean,
I'm assuming it's small because Johnstown's kind of small. I'm

(44:22):
not hating on you. I'm just saying I'm not telling
you anything you don't already know. So the Johnstown Breeze
is run by a uh will a person. You really
decided to do something stupid.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
And that stupid thing was this.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
When you work for news media organization, as Leslie Banger,
the publisher of the Johnstown Breeze, does you get all
kinds of press releases from.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
All kinds of organizations.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
I get all kinds of press releases from left wing
organizations about things they're doing, and I just ignore them.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
I don't care. And she got one.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
About the Weld County Republican hodown that's coming up and
it's gonna be fun and there's gonna be music.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
It's gonna be a great time.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
And so she was on the mass email and she
just decided to respond with what time is the flag
burning and the Mexican whipping. She's the publisher of the
Johnstown Brees. Now, I'm not gonna call it a boycott,
but what I am gonna call it is this. If
you have a business that does business with the john Stownbrees,

(45:29):
this is who you're giving your money to. And if
you own a business and you're doing business with the Johnstownbrees,
and you are listening to this show because ideologically you
and I align. That's who You're giving your money to,
someone who thinks. By the way, the chair of the
Weld County GOP Hunter Rivera, didn't appreciate the Mexican whipping comment.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
It's just absurd, just absolutely absurd.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
And I'm tired of acting like you know what, I'm
not going to be I'm not going to urge people
to not do business. No, I'm urging you not to do.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
Business with them. I'm urging you to call it.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
I can't imagine they have tons and tons of subscribers,
but if you're a subscriber, cancel your subscription and.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Tell them why.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
There can't be that many lefties to support this kind
of rag in Johnstown. I mean, I'm sure there are,
but I'm tired of just giving people money that not
only disagree with me. I don't mind giving money to
people who disagree with me. I shop at Costco. Costco
is owned by.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
A bunch of progressives in Washington State.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
I don't care. You know why, because they're not messing
with me. They're not being rude, they're not sending mess
to emails they're not doing any of that.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
They're just giving me great prices on products that.

Speaker 12 (46:45):
I really like.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
But when you have somebody like this, when you have
the vile CEO of Penzi's Spices, and if you are
a cook like I am and you love Penzy's, please
never give them another dollar of your money. The CEO
is the most hateful man I have ever encountered against Republicans.
He hates every Republican and he's open about it all
the time. He openly hates you. So stop giving them

(47:10):
your money. I mean, there's some ways you can't get
around it, right, there's some monopoly type situations. Really well, okay,
I've got to do that anyway. Don't do business with
Johnstown Breeze, just just don't. The only way you can
prevent them from spreading that kind of nonsense and idiocy

(47:32):
is to not give them any money to do it
and just stop it. Oh, I have bad news. I
want to get this story in before the break because
I don't want to talk about it very long. It
wasn't that long ago that the long time abortionist in
Boulder died at the age of eighty seven after taking

(47:53):
the lives of some I don't know, forty thousand babies.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
And the clinics shut down.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
And it was one of the clinics that allowed women,
up until the moment they were, you know, ready to deliver,
to come in and ask for an abortion and get
it for no reason.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
In interviews, the.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Doctor was forced to admit that, yes, they did do
a lot of late term abortions for women that found
out that their baby had some kind of fatal situation
that was only going to lead to suffering if they
were born, and they decided that that was more humane
than allowing a baby to be born that was going
to die for sure. I get it, hard, horrible choice.
I don't think i'd make it. But that's on them,
and that's their path they have to walk. But he

(48:32):
was forced to admit the like half of his patients
were just women who went through that long of a
pregnancy and then decided they didn't want to be pregnant.
I find this incredibly I can't even imagine what it
must be like to do that job and still go
home and look at yourself in the mirror and not
feel like a monster.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
I mean, I could kind of understand it.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
If you're helping women there finding out their babies have
some kind of horrible fetal anomaly that's going to make
them suffer when they're like, I get, I kind of
could maybe understand that the guy's a baby is thirty
four weeks. Thirty four weeks. That is a fully formed baby.
They may have lungs that aren't fully formed, that need

(49:16):
a little help, maybe they need to be in the
nikey for a little while, but.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
That is a fully formed human being.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
All those fingers, all the toes, everything is there, and
they're injecting it with poison and cutting it into pieces
and removing those pieces. Those little hands, those little feet,
those little chunky legs. I don't understand. There are things.
There are jobs that suck in this world, right There

(49:43):
are jobs that I just think to myself, I wonder
what kind of person actually enjoys that job. I'm sure
there's a lot of people who do that job, but
I think there's people like who enjoys being an IRS
auditor who signs up for that. Hey, I want to
be the guy who works for the taxman to go
after people, to try I find where they cheated. Maybe
your sense of righteousness can gird you through that process.

(50:05):
But this is a job. I don't understand how you
can do it. I really don't. I just I don't understand.
And now it's back up and running the new Colorado
abortion business. I guess it's an improvement. I should correct myself.
They're only gonna kill babies up to thirty four weeks
for any reason. Yeah, you just have to suffer through

(50:26):
the last six weeks. If you can't decide before that
that you don't want the little human being that you have,
it's just gross. It's just gross, really really really gross.
From the Common Spirit Health text line, you can text
us at five six six nine zero. Mandy, can you
say the names again you recommended for the jeff Co

(50:49):
school Board?

Speaker 6 (50:50):
I absolutely can.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
That would be Gascon, Terry Gascon, Samuel Myron, and Denen
at Shaveria. Nina Cheveria is also endorsed by the Democrats.
But she's the best thing going in that race, So yeah, yeah, Mandy.
I also drop Penzi's, which I love. Savory Spice is
an excellent alternative. I am now I dedicated Savory spice shopper.

(51:17):
They really do have the most amazing cinnamon. If you're
going into your holiday baking let me give you two suggestions,
and these are splurges. Okay, go get some of the
Indonesian cinnamon that they have at Savory Spice. It is Oh,
it is like a chef's kiss.

Speaker 9 (51:35):
It is so good.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
And then go ahead.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
It's Indonesia. Oh no, is it Vietnamese? I think it
might be. I think they have both.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Go get some fancy.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Cinnamon, and then if you email me, I'll send you the.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
Cocoa that I order. You have to special order it.
It is gobsmackingly expensive, so expensive, I'm not gonna lie's
like thirty nine dollars for two pounds, but for holiday
it will change your life. Mandy the Lineman Leader is
every bit is bad. We've had a local paper for
close to one hundred years, and now the current owners

(52:11):
taking it upon themselves to be political. Needless to say,
they're going out of business first of the year, Mandy
whipping Mexicans. What if I'm white and that's my thing?
What time then? Lol? Mandy. We canceled our subscription a
while back because of the obvious bias. Yep, yep, Mandy.

(52:31):
All of these so called legitimate reasons for abortion, why
it must always be allowed?

Speaker 6 (52:36):
Almost never apply.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
It is done for convenience, you guys. I personally know
someone who, at like the four month mark, found out
that her child had a significant defect that would lead
to a tremendous amount of suffering, and she chose to
terminate the pregnancy. And she was absolutely gut wrenchingly heartbroken

(53:01):
about the entire thing destroyed. I don't know if I
if I, if I would, I don't know. I cannot
put myself in that person's shoes because I've never had
to make that decision. I probably A'm just gonna say
it would ride the whole thing out and let God
decide when it was over. Mandy, what CEO did you
say hated Republicans just because they were Republicans. That would

(53:23):
be Bill Penzie of Penzi's Spices. You can google Bill
Penzy Republicans and you will see it all. He is
the nastiest bit of work, the nastiest bit of work.
And I will never darken the doorsteps of any of
his stores ever again, because if he doesn't like me,
then he certainly won't like my money. Mandy, trying to

(53:45):
find the info on the Emerald River Cruise, Please advise
one more time where to find it. Thank you always,
mandyconnelltrip dot com. Did you hear we're going to Europe?
Did you hear next October?

Speaker 8 (53:56):
Where are you going to Europe?

Speaker 5 (53:58):
We're gonna fly into Switzerland before we hop on the
Emerald Dawn to sail on the Rhine River through Germany,
stopping in some parts of France as we end up
in Amsterdam. It's the Mandy Connell Adventure. It's already over
half sold. If you want to go, you better go today.
Mandyconnell Trip dot com. Mandy, what a ridiculous publisher as
there is a decent Hispanic population in Johnstown, Talking of course,

(54:22):
about the hateful editor of the Johnstown Breeze. It responded
to a announcement about a gop ho down with when
are the Mexican whippings?

Speaker 6 (54:32):
And something else? Mandy, Fyi, I vote for most.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Mill levies for schools, but why isn't taxing people without
kids to pay for school? Socialism? It one hundred percent?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Is it is.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
There's no two ways about it.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
But many many, many many moons ago, we decided as
a society that an educated population is a necessity to
make our economic fortunes rise.

Speaker 6 (54:59):
That is that is what we decided, So yes we are.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Mandy Penzi's is based in Wisconsin. That sucks because I
love Wisconsin. Bill Penzy puts anti Republican rhetoric on the
packaging of his products.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
That's how horrible he is. Yes, indeed, and if.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
Anybody knows the owners of Savory Spice, let them know.
I've been dying to do commercials for them for so
so many years, so so many years. Here's a text
responding to the conversation we had about the late term
abortion clinic that's reopening in Boulder. It says, my wife

(55:41):
and I made the same decision as your friend and
aborting our baby as being unviable.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
And a threat to her health. Worst day of our life.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Best decision for my wife's physical health, although it took
a toll on her mental health. I try not to
let her know. I think about this with tears in
my eyes several times a week. Even fourteen years later,
I have tears right now. I hope our child and
God can forgive our decision. I told my dad I
feel like a murderer. And you know, textor I appreciate
you sending that in because it's very easy to demonize

(56:14):
women who have abortions and demonize people who decide to
make that choice. But it's there are people that make
that choice, and like this gentleman, have to live with it.
And that's the penance, right, that's the penance for doing
what you thought was the right thing to save your wife.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
And my heart goes out to you.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
Like I said, I can't even imagine being in that situation.
I count my blessings and I've talked about this before.
I'm a big believer in gratitude. I think that no
matter what your situation in life is. I've always said
this about myself. When someone asked me, like, what's a
good quality You're not a job interview, what do you
think you have a good quality about yourself? I always
say I am situationally happy. And what I mean by

(56:57):
that is, whatever the situation is, for the most part,
I'm gonna find some reason to be happy. I'm gonna
find some reason to find satisfaction in whatever is going on.

Speaker 8 (57:08):
Now.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Sometimes it's kind of hard. Sometimes stuff just sucks right,
and you really can't do that. But now I realize
that's just gratitude in action. And one of the things
I'm grateful to grateful about is that I never had
to make these hard choices and never had that situation.
My daughter had a dramatic birth, but that was it.

(57:29):
No text or I did not say I moved the
blog to Mandy connalltrip dot com. But you can try
and find the blog at Mandy connalltrip dot com and
you may end up going to Europe with us. You
don't know, you don't know, you have no idea. Could
have happened, could absolutely happen. I want to play oopscrap,
got the wrong blog open. I was looking for something
for someone. I want to play a quick Oh, I

(57:51):
don't know if I can. Let's play that guy's video
A Rod. So I said this ad and I said,
A Rod, I need you to beep out a couple
words for me. And I saw this yesterday and now, Ayrod,
you've watched the video.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
Do you think this guy is real or do you
think he's somebody putting on a video? I mean, do
you think that I kind of think he's real. I
don't know that I think he's real because it's so outrageous.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
So this guy is on TikTok talking about his food
stamps being cut and initially you're like, Wow, that's Tara.
Listen to this clip of this guy, and just I'm
gonna see if it strikes you the same way it
struck me.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Go ahead, Hey, Roud Trump has cut my food stamps
from twenty eight hundred dollars down to three hundred and
fifty dollars.

Speaker 10 (58:35):
Now what am I supposed to do? Huh?

Speaker 4 (58:38):
So I literally just got this piece of mail today
saying that due to new policy changes from the Trump administration,
all this all this whatever that, all these cuts and
whatever he's doing over there. Now now they're telling me
I have to go work.

Speaker 10 (58:57):
Now I have to go do all this.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Well, I literally got five kids, Okay, I'm trying to
sit here and spend time with them.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
I'm not trying to go work, you know, fifty sixty
hours a.

Speaker 10 (59:10):
Week so I can pay bills. I'm I just really
don't understand.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
I've voted for him this last election because I thought, well,
he had good was going on. But now all of
a sudden, all this policy stuff's coming out, and now
he's making all these cuts and now now he doesn't
want to help the less fortunate people no more. I'm
done with that guy. I'm doing with that guy.

Speaker 10 (59:35):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
If literally, if he gets voted in again, I'm leaving
this country because I'm not dealing with this no more.

Speaker 10 (59:48):
This is all. This is all.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Now.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
I gotta tell you, guys.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
I mean, I can't imagine that this guy thought and
the part of me that's saying this can't be real
is also going But Mandy can.

Speaker 6 (01:00:05):
It absolutely can.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
When he said, I got five kids, it's not like
I want to go to be going to work to
pay bills? Oh ay, Rod, how much do you love
getting up every day to go work and pay bills?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Do?

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
How much you love it? Do you love getting up
every single day to go to work to pay bills?

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Heay?

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Work?

Speaker 8 (01:00:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
This guy doesn't want to be bothered.

Speaker 9 (01:00:30):
So it's.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Are you looking for sympathy there?

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
I don't know if he's telling the truth, but I
do know that Senator Amy Klobashar, he of the Nasty reputation,
decided to make a point about the Democratics shut down
on the government over subsidies for people who get their
Obamacare premiums paid for them. That's why they've shut down

(01:00:56):
the government and so they can give health care to
illegal immigrants. This is the example that Senator Amy clovishar
shares on x dot com. Now see if you are
swayed or it all moved by this? She writes about
a news story. Early retirees like Bill and Shelley will

(01:01:17):
see their health insurance premiums increase nearly three hundred percent
from four hundred and forty two to seventeen hundred dollars
per month if Congressional Republicans refuse to extend the enhanced
tax credits. That's an extra fifteen k a year of
families can't afford. How about this, Bill and Shelley, take

(01:01:39):
your happy asses back to work. Why don't we start
with that. She's really showing me early retirees, and I
am supposed to be out here in the workforce paying
taxes to the federal government. So they can turn around
and Bill and Shelley can go to the beach again

(01:02:00):
in their early retired years because I'm freaking paying for
their healthcare. They think this is a moving example. This
is gonna move the needle all of a sudden, people
do well, God, we can't let Bill and Shelley down.

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
Holy cow, let me.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Get a second job so they don't have to go
back to work.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
James, Louise, Bill and Shelley, They're gonna be it hard.
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
I begrudge you no one in early retirement. I wish
we could all retire early. But I also don't want
to pay for someone else's early retirement. If you can't
afford the full freight of your health care costs, you
can't afford to retire. How about that, Bill and Shelley.
How about that dude who doesn't want to go get
a job and work fifty to sixty hours a week.
How about that? Let's start with that anyway, Mandy, this

(01:02:51):
man sounds like he needs to get with the program.
I wish I could stay on with my two kids.
I work sixty to seventy hours a week to keep
food on the table. What a geek that boy? As
he needs to snippet or practice abstinence. Agreed to the
textures that are you trying to raise my blood pressure?
I am not, and I'm sorry. Also, this is the
other kicker text her you caught it too. Also, if

(01:03:14):
he can't pay bills, how does he leave the USA?

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
Exactly?

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Mandy slightly off topic speaking about Johnstown reminded me of
what a family friend told me. Doctor Jeff of the
TV show has a clinic and conifer. In the employee
only areas, he wears a shirt that reads F Trump.
He harasses his employees in a political manner. She resigned
because of his behavior. You know, here's the thing, Like

(01:03:42):
I said, I if you keep it to yourself and
I don't work for you, I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
But as soon as you make it publicly known.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Because here's the.

Speaker 6 (01:03:52):
Thing, he thinks that's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
To walk around like this. This Jefferson County Public School
board member thinks it's okay to tell the parents of
children who were running away from a shooting at Evergreen
High School that they just have privilege for expecting their
kids to be safe at school. This is how they
think all the time. If that's what they say in public,
what are they saying in private? We've really seen over

(01:04:17):
the last month or so, especially since Charlie Kirk's murder.

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
Exactly how uh well, exactly what many on the left
think of people on the right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
That they would be fine with us dying, they'd be
fine with somebody assassinating President Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:04:33):
They'd be fine with you know, people on the right
being murdered. I guess. I mean, it's like a thing now,
but they're very casual about it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
It's not nobody's whispering, you know, nobody's like I have
these feelings that I know that they're.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
Wrong and shameful. No, they're all in, let's do it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
So I'm at the point now where somebody shows me
who they are in a way that makes me feel unwelcome,
I will take them at their word. I will absolute
take them at their word and never visit their business again.
And here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
It's not even a boycott.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
It's not like I'm specifically like, oh, I'm just not
giving my money to people who hate me. It's one
of the reasons that I have no desire to travel
in the Middle East outside of Israel. I cannot wait
to go back to Israel again. Cannot wait. But do
I want to go to Egypt or Saudi Arabia where
women are second class citizens. No, I'm not giving you
my money. No, Mandy, I told my kids since Sora

(01:05:31):
Too came out, you can literally not trust videos online exactly.
I agree. I absolutely agree that we are in a
very perilous situation where it is rapidly becoming darn near
impossible impossible to tell the difference. So be careful with

(01:05:51):
what you're consuming, be careful with what you are sharing.
Do not end up making yourself look silly something that
turns out to be AI. The easiest way to begin
the process of verifying if something is AI or not
is simply go to Google and put in the you know,

(01:06:12):
Google box, whatever is the video circulating of Donald Trump
flying an aircraft pooping on people in a protest reel
or AI.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Start with that. That should be your starting position.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
And if you don't get a clear, clear, clear answer
one way or the other, just don't share it. Don't
get sucked in, don't make yourself look stupid. I have
a great column on the blog today and I want
to get into it on the other side of the break,
but it's kind of long, and it's by Seth Dylan.
He's the editor of The Babylon B, which the Babylon B.
If you don't know what the Babylon B is, you

(01:06:47):
are missing out. The Babylon B is a satire site
and it is so wildly funny. It is what the
Onion used to be before the Onion lost its sense
of humor and just started trying to score cheap political points.
And Seth Dylan has a column in the Free Press

(01:07:08):
and it is paywalden. I'm sorry about that. There was
no way for me to get around the paywall, but
I am going to share part of it with you
because it is specifically about the notion that there should
be no enemies on the right. As a matter of fact,
the title of the column is the foolishness of no
Enemies to the Right, and it's about whether or not
Republicans need to be the ones standing up against the

(01:07:31):
fringe elements of the right who are now trying to
become mainstream in the party. And I got to tell you, guys,
I have never seen a more correct sentiment in my
entire life. It makes a great straight line between the
Democrats refusing to stand up to the fringiest parts of
their party to where they are now, where they have

(01:07:53):
been completely taken over by the fringiest parts of the party. So, yeah,
it's a fantastic column. We'll get into it next in
the next hour. We have uh oh, we have at
two thirty. You're gonna want to stick around for this.
If you need if you're shopping the market for health insurance,
if you're a small business trying to figure out how

(01:08:14):
to provide your employees some kind of healthcare without breaking
the bank, you're going to want to hear my interview
at two thirty because not only are we talking direct
primary care, we're also talking direct medical specialty care. What
is that, Oh, you need a knee replacement. You want
to pay cash. Here's how much it's gonna cost right
on the website.

Speaker 6 (01:08:34):
It's so cool. We'll be right back with all that.

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Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
The third hour of the show.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
I'm your host for the next one hour, Mandy Connell,
joined by Anthony Rodrigue. Today we will be taking you
right up until three pm when ka Wa Sports will
take over. Now, coming up a little bit later, we're
going to have a conversation about what injecting free market
principles into the delivery of healthcare really looks like and
if you're in the market for healthcare health insurance. This

(01:09:29):
is not health insurance. It is healthcare. We'll explain it
to thirty in the meantime, though, I want to share
some of this column by Seth Dylan at the Babylon
B because it is it is. Hang on one second,
I forgot to log in on this thing. This is paywald,
and I apologize for that, but I couldn't get around it,

(01:09:50):
and it is what it is. So I grabbed a
snippet of it that you should already subscribe to the
Free Press anyway, just throwing that out there. It's really good.
There we go, this is inconvenient. Oh fantast Oh there
we go. Okay, it just popped up. But Seth Dylan
is the editor of the Babylon B and the Babylon

(01:10:14):
B does satire better than anybody else's doing satire right now,
and he wrote a column that I got to tell you,
I completely agree with, completely agree with. As much as
I want to see unity in the Republican Party on
the right whatever, there are things happening in the Republican
Party that need to be called out. And a perfect

(01:10:36):
example is the recent story about the Young Republicans in
New York State who had a chat thread full of
gallows and Nazi humor that was a little too over
the top for my taste, and immediately all of these
Republicans disabout it like, oh, that's absolutely terrible, we cannot
have that. They pulled the charter of the Young Republicans

(01:10:57):
Club in New York because of it. So I want
to share some of what Seth Dylan has to share.
Bad ideas are like cancer. If you don't deal with
them quickly and decisively, they spread. One way to deal
with bad ideas is to refute them, as C. S.
Lewis said, good philosophy must exist if for no other reason,
because bad philosophy needs to be answered.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Another is to satirize them.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
Ridiculing bad ideas stops them from being taken seriously. This
is the mission of the Babylon b the conservative fake
news publication I've been gradually running into the ground since
twenty eighteen. We mock anyone and anything that deserves it,
not just because it's funny, because it's imperative. Bad ideas
taken seriously can have catastrophic consequences. I'm a conservative, and

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it's fair to say that a lot of bad ideas
we make fun of at the Babylon b are progressive ones. Recently, however,
I've come under fire from fellow conservatives for pointing out
what should be obvious. They're bad ideas on the right too.
Never scrutinize your friend, as I'm told, focus on the enemy.
They're the ones promoting abortion on demand, gender transition for miners,

(01:12:06):
open borders, censorship, DEI, and a whole host of other
absurdities that no one from a couple of decades ago
would have believed could have ever become mainstream. I'm steadfastly
opposed to those ideas. I've spent years and millions of
dollars fighting them in both the courts and the culture.
But what if those aren't the only bad ideas? If

(01:12:26):
bad ideas spread like cancer, shouldn't we check for them everywhere.
I recently visited an imaging center for a diagnostic CT scan.
I'm glad the technician wasn't only interested in scanning the
left side of my body.

Speaker 6 (01:12:40):
By insisting on no enemies to.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
The right, the right is repeating the left's biggest mistake.
The phrase comes from the French Revolution, when the meeting
was pad denim a ghosh, no enemies to the left.
It was meant to establish strength through unity, but it
quickly turned into an excuse to avoid self scrutiny out
of confronting one's own radicals by insisting the only real

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danger was on the other side. This is how the
American left has operated in recent years. Looking at all
the ground the Left is lost lately, it's clear it
was a huge mistake. Instead of taking on their own
radicals and self correcting, the left ignored uncomfortable questions and
let its most extreme factions set the agenda. The result

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was a self defeating overreach, with policies pushed into the
mainstream that ordinary Americans couldn't stomach. And so despite all
the cultural power they acquired, the Left is now managing
a movement in decline. Ridiculous ideas like pregnant men and
drag shows for kids were almost impossible to satirize. I

(01:13:46):
often said the hardest part of our job at the
Babylon b was coming up with jokes that were more
absurd than whatever democrats were doing in real life.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
This should serve as a warning to the right.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
Ordinary people have their limits pushed too hard, and you
start losing people. My argument now is simply this, if
the right doesn't learn from the left's mistakes, we risk
suffering the same fate.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
It may already be too late.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
Bad ideas in those pushing them see them to be
multiple seem to be multiplying by the day. Nick Fuentes,
a man who glorifies Hitler, has grown his reach and
influenced dramatically in recent months, finding his way onto mainstream platforms.
According to Alex Jones, Fuentes is set to appear on
Tucker Carlston's podcast. Last week, Politico reported on leaked group

(01:14:33):
checks that showed young Republican members reveling in open racism,
anti Semitism, and violent fantasies.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
The right, including JD Vance, have.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Dismissed the story, arguing that it pales in comparison to
what leftists have said and done.

Speaker 6 (01:14:49):
In other words, our friends get a pass.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
The Daily Wires, Mount Walsh has reportedly promised he will
unite with anyone on the right. Presumably this radically inclusive.
An inclusive offer extends even to the openly racist and
anti Semitic gropers who call for the death of his
own boss, Ben Shapiro. Whenever I criticize the bad ideas
on our side, anti Semitism, historically illiterate revisionism, baseless conspiracy theories,

(01:15:17):
authoritarian impulses. A mob forms to accuse me of treachery
and betrayal. I'm attacked for punching right, dividing the movement,
and hurting the cause. What the radical right is demanding
of conservatives like myself is that we unify with our
extremists to win. But in what sense are we winning?
If we're giving up our principles and tolerating evil in

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our own ranks, How does.

Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
That advance our cause?

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
How can it be?

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
Do you anything but hurt our cause?

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
If unity means refusing to confront evil within our ranks,
then I don't want it. I don't want to lock
arms with anyone who thinks bigotry, collectivism, or post constitutional
tyranny belongs under the banner of conservatism. The slogan knows
enemies to the right isn't a strategy for defeating the left,
it's suicide. And then it goes on from there. But

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he's absolutely right. I want to close with this last part.
Every victory we've earned came through courage and conviction, not
cruelty or coercion. We're winning because we're right, and because
our constitutional republic makes it possible to course correct when
free people stand up and speak out. Conservatism has never

(01:16:28):
been about power or tribal victory. It's about conserving what's
good and true, regardless of what's trending or how much
it might cost us. The principles that make conservatism worth defending,
individual liberty, constitutional government, objective truth aren't impediments to victory.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
They're its only foundation.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Abandoning our principles in pursuit of power is not a
winning strategy. It's confession that we never really believed in
them at all.

Speaker 6 (01:16:57):
Can't tell you how much this spoke to me today.
A good column you just.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
Read, but when you start thinking about politics instead of editorials.
We need the votes for radicals on the right to win,
just as Dems need to court the votes of leftist
radicals to win. And you have to win to hope
for any of your lofty ideals to be realized. There's
a difference between accepting someone's vote and elevating them within
the party. We're now seeing this in the Democratic Party,

(01:17:22):
and I love the fact that South Dylan kind of
uses them as the example. We now have a situation
in the Democratic Party where you have a guy running
for lieutenant or excuse me, attorney General in Virginia who texts,
not even just text messages, has conversations wishing for the
death of his colleague's children, and the Democratic Party cannot

(01:17:43):
bring itself to condemn such language. That's what happens when
you let them become elevated in the party.

Speaker 6 (01:17:51):
There's a big difference there.

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
And I don't think there's anything wrong with saying, you
know what, I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
Really care if Nick fwent Tase is a part of
the party system.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
If he wants to vote Republican, great, If he wants
to vote for a white supremacist, great, do whatever he
wants to do. If you need the tiny fraction of
Americans who are true white supremacists to win an election,
we're in bad shape. And I would argue that you
drive more people who may be persuadable, those people who
feel lost right now, who have no political party, who

(01:18:23):
are truly centrist, who probably have some beliefs that lean
to the left, and probably have some that lean to
the right. Those people are persuadable when you let a
white supremacist have a seat at the table, and that
table is the main table. You now alienate a group
of persuadable people that could have been a part of
your coalition. So we have to make choices, and I

(01:18:44):
think Seth Dyllan is absolutely right a text or texted
in I could agree with you, but then we'd both
be wrong, which is the best way to say this.
But then they follow it up with Mandy, I'm all
for unity, except when I could agree with you, but
then we'd both be wrong. By the way, that's meme
I collected. I'd love to take credit to finish the thought.
A unity between Washington and Adams was a pipe dream,

(01:19:07):
but they were united in believing in the New Union.
But you can disagree with someone on policy issues, as
Washington and Adams did. But we're talking about people on
the right who are white supremacist, and we're talking about
people on the hard left that are anarchists. Do you
see the difference here. You're not talking about two people

(01:19:27):
who may generally speaking a line on the bigger issues
while disagreeing on the finer points. We're talking about people
who believe vile things. And I don't have any need
to be associated with them. One of the reasons that
I'm still a registered independent. I have not changed my
party affiliation back to Republican. I left the Republican Party
because I didn't want to be associated with the leadership

(01:19:49):
of the Colorado Republican Party.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
And I'm just waiting. I'm just waiting to see what
happens next.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
You know, Mandy, I've noticed a lot of pro Nazi
stuff seeping.

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
Into the algorithm.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
I always say not interested, but it's strange how it's
being pushed on the right. Has anybody else had that experience.
I don't get any kind of pro Nazi crap.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
I just don't.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
I don't know how I keep my algorithm so clean.
I don't have any the evil, awful, horrible thing. Well,
if I do, it's because I see it on libs
of TikTok or someone else. That's the only way I
see it. I don't have the neo Nazi stuff coming
at me. So, Mandy, is there any room for us
to emulate the jazz musician Darryl Davis didn't He set

(01:20:34):
a good example of how we sway people from the
radical edge to come back towards the center. I don't
know you.

Speaker 6 (01:20:41):
I don't feel.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
I don't feel any responsibility to try and change someone
else's mind that I think is terribly terribly wrong unless
they're in my immediate sphere, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:20:56):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
And then again, I don't think I have any friends
that I would, even for a moment, would consider.

Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
Themselves white supremacists.

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
I just don't.

Speaker 8 (01:21:05):
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
I do not know, Mandy. There is no problem Nazi
stuff on the right, Yes there is. Yet, yeah, there
really is, you guys, there really is. And the fact
that you're like there's nothing over there, you're either willfully
ignorant or you're not willing to call it out when
you see it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:24):
That's kind of the point self Dylan is making. It's
not like we have to have the most.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
Pure party in the world. I welcome all viewpoints, I
really really do, I truly do. I want to hear
everybody's viewpoints from the right. I want to hear what
they're thinking, But I'm not going to treat all of
those ideas with the same level of seriousness or respect.

(01:21:48):
And I think that should be easy to understand. And
yet there does seem to be this slight elevation of
the cuckoo.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
Somebody asks of Candace.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
Owens is on the hard right and she didn't used
to be, but boy, she is just she is moving
into that grifter territory that, in my mind undermines everything.

Speaker 6 (01:22:09):
So you can put her, I would put her on
the far far right and part of the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
And if Tucker Carlson is gonna have Nick Fuentas on
his podcast to really have a tough interview, as Tucker
is very capable of doing, then that's one thing. But
if he's gonna have him on to do the kind
of softball interviews that he's done for other people lately,
that's just gross. It's gross and unnecessary and uncalled for, Mandy.

(01:22:35):
All white supremacists vote Republican, but that does not mean
that all Republicans are white supremacists. Again, just like all
anarchists probably vote Democrat, but not Democrats are all anarchists, Mandy.
It's not pro Nazi in the sense of hardcore push
but more of jokes than when you go down the
rabbit hole of not PC jokes and means that stuff

(01:22:56):
starts to pop up.

Speaker 6 (01:22:57):
I don't know, maybe it's my own fault. Lol. Well, yeah,
I think it is.

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
I am going to talk about alternatives to health insurance
that are actually about making healthcare.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
Both affordable and accessible.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
And joining me now is a like I mean, Travis
is like a multiple time guest, He's practically a co host.
Travis Bocenstaid is the Chief Experience Officer for Pinnacle Advanced
Primary Care. They do direct primary care. And if you
don't know what this is, hang in. We're going to
help you understand the whole process. And joining her today
is a new Travis Bocenstaid guest. Travis books all the

(01:23:35):
guests now when it comes to healthcare. Lisa Fagan is
the CEO of Smith Medical Direct Specialty Care, and this
piece of the puzzle answers the question what if I
need a knee replacement?

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
But we're going to start with Travis first.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
Travis, for my listeners who've never heard you on the
show before, let's do the elevator speech.

Speaker 6 (01:23:54):
What is direct primary care?

Speaker 13 (01:23:58):
So Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care and the DPC movement think
about it like the Netflix of healthcare. You are going
to pay a fixed monthly membership fee for unlimited access
to primary care and family medicine with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
No copays, deductibles, or offices at fees.

Speaker 13 (01:24:12):
So I want you to think about direct primary care
like family medicine used to be forty fifty years ago
before insurance ruined all of it, and DPC can take
care of ninety percent of a member's everyday health and
wellness needs.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
But for your listeners and Mandy, what we talk about
a lot.

Speaker 13 (01:24:29):
Of times is well what happens outside of the direct
primary care space. And it's really exciting in the marketplace
right now that we're not only seeing the growth of
direct primary care, there's a new strong movement called the
direct specialty care movement. And Pinnacle's been very excited to
partner up with our friends at Smith Medical because they're

(01:24:53):
solving that problem in the market and actually making big
procedures affordable for people.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
If you guys have listened to the show at all,
I have been talking since I got a show in
two thousand and five about the Oklahoma City Surgical Center.
The Oklahoma City Surgical Center is a surgical center staff
by fine surgeons and doctors. And if you need any replacement,
you can go right now to their website Oklahoma City
Surgical Center and you can find out how much ane
replacement is going to cost because they publish all of

(01:25:22):
their prices online and I have held it up as
the gold standard since two thousand and five. And now
we have one in our neighborhood and it is called
Smith Medical Direct Specialty Care. And on their website, I
am right now clicking over to the page that says
surgery pricing. So let's bring in CEO Lisa Fagan to

(01:25:44):
talk about that aspect of it now.

Speaker 6 (01:25:46):
Lisa, I asked you why.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
You called it Smith Medical Direct Specialty Care. It's actually
named in honor of the doctor from the Oklahoma City
Surgical Center. So it was a long introduction, but I
wanted to get all that in to kind of give
the background. So you guys are just doing the same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:26:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (01:26:05):
Yes, we named our company after Keith Smith because he's
the pioneer and we were honored that he allowed us
to name our company after him. So we are a
cash pay option for your surgical needs. We're affordable, transparent,
bundled pricing. We're multi specialty, so we can cover anything
from a total joint to a spine to a hernia

(01:26:28):
and everything. All of our pricing is right online, like McDonald's.
You take a look on our website and you can
scroll through and you see a rotator cuff repair, you
see a total joint and there are no hidden fees.
You know the exact price upfront prior to surgery. You'll
never get a bill on the back end. And our

(01:26:48):
patients are loving it well.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
And you know, it's funny because you look at some
of these prices, and some of them are are high prices.
I mean, you're talking about twenty two thousand dollars for
a total knee replacement. But when you get into the
cost of health insurance for someone over the age of fifty,
they're paying that much in annual premiums for coverage that
doesn't give them a whole bunch more, you know what

(01:27:11):
I mean. It's like you have to break it down
into how you actually use healthcare. Now, I want to
ask Travis a question, because the number one question I
get is, so I sign up for direct primary care,
or maybe even I sign up my business to take
care of my employees with direct primary care. What happens
if I have some kind of catastrophic event. Would you

(01:27:31):
guys recommend these meta share programs or you work with
some of those, but now you also have you know,
Smith Medical where you can say, look, you can go
over here at Lisa. I'm assuming you have some kind
of financing options.

Speaker 9 (01:27:43):
We do have a financing option. But for employers, they
actually love to pay direct too, because they save a
significant amount of money on like their premiums for insurance,
so they save about forty to sixty percent if they
go directly to companies like US. So a total knee,
like you said, yeah, it's a big price, but it's

(01:28:04):
a lot more affordable than if they go to a
hospital or another surgery center and they know exactly what
they're going to pay. A total knee is the same
price every single time they do it. I'm like, when
you go to a hospital, it could be a bunch
of different prices. It can range anywhere from three hundred
percent for the same exact CPT code.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
So there's everything including plastic surgery.

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
By the way, I was like, wait what, I love
that And I think that eventually and I'm hoping this
kind of model catches on that this is going to
create some downward pressure on these prices in our metro area.
Because years ago, when I interviewed doctor Keith smith On
about this. He said, look, we've really seen some price

(01:28:47):
reductions even in the hospitals because they have to compete
with us. Now, you guys haven't been around that long,
But how did you decide on this pricing? Like, tell
me how you and I don't need like a you know,
bullet pointed every single aspect. But when you're setting pricing,
what do you look at.

Speaker 9 (01:29:04):
Well, we're really going off of Medicare pricing, So we're
doing about one hundred and fifty percent of what Medicare
charges and that's for across the board, so physician anesesia facility.
And then we don't upprice the implant, which most of
the most places do. They charge like a ten percent

(01:29:25):
increase from the implant. We give it to them at cost.
So really we're just wanting to be affordable for these patients.

Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
And that's another thing Travis about direct primary care is
that you go in, you get your office visits, they
don't cost you anything extra. But say you need a
blood test, say you need a strip test, say you
need something along those lines, you guys will do the test,
but you only charge wholesale pricing, and those price differences
are shocking, Like what you will pay less paying for

(01:29:56):
the test than a lot of us paying a copay
to go to a doctor's office.

Speaker 13 (01:30:00):
Right right, What you're finding here is we all follow
the same principle. We believe that you can get high
quality care at a very affordable price. And if we
start to lift the veil on the madness that is
happening behind the scenes, we can create stronger healthcare consumers.
If you're someone that owns a business right now, and
what's super exciting in the market is that Pinnacle now

(01:30:22):
has our own health plan overlaid on top of our practice,
and we are partnering specifically with Smith to refer surgeries
over to them because we know those who take our
health plan, we will be saving them hundreds and thousands
of dollars by doing a direct pay relationship with Smith Medical.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
So it's like two p's in a pod.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
We're keeping them happy and healthy.

Speaker 13 (01:30:48):
But when we want our members to get really affordable
surgical care with no surprise medical bills, we are perfectly
aligned with Smith and we have the opportunity to save
local employers and their employees.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
It's of thousands of dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:31:00):
I got a couple of.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
Text messages earlier Travis from one of them from a
guy who said, look, i run a business out of
Dia and I've got forty employees and I need to
do something just to keep employees. And I was like, well,
you're gonna want to listen to this interview and give
them a call now. At least people don't have to
have a membership with you though, because you've only made
I may only need Smith Medical Direct one time. Maybe

(01:31:23):
if I go to get my I'm not getting my
nose done. I have a good nose, but you know
what I mean. I mean, so I don't have to
have a membership with you. Guys, No, no membership.

Speaker 9 (01:31:32):
And the average person has a surgery every fourteen years, right,
so I mean hopefully you don't see us all that often,
but when you do need us, we're here, and it's
affordable and transparent pricing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
So there are so many questions, so many questions. What's
the warranty on a knee replacement or any surgery do
you offer? Do do you get like five thousand miles
on that knee replacement? How does that does that even work?

Speaker 9 (01:31:57):
So we don't have warranties on nee replacement vints. However,
we stand by our work, so if you get an
infection here from our surgery center, we will take care.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
Of it for free.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
We won't make you pay.

Speaker 9 (01:32:10):
If you need to come in for a washout, or
if you get a hematoma or something like that, a
small complication, we'll take care of you for free. But
if your knee you're rejecting your knee implant, then unfortunately, yes,
you would have to have another surgery. But yeah, so
no warranty. However, we do stand by our infection rates

(01:32:33):
and quality care, and our quality care is just as
great as everyone everyone else around here. Everyone thinks, oh well,
if it's cash pay, they're not following the same rules.
That's actually not true. We went through the same licensing
and accreditation that everyone else has gone through, and our
quality care is high.

Speaker 6 (01:32:51):
So yeah, go ahead, Travis.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
I was gonna say, I've been in their operating room.

Speaker 6 (01:32:56):
Oh wow, we love smooth operator, Travis, but I don't
want you operating on me.

Speaker 13 (01:33:03):
You don't because I had to have a chair ready
just in case I passed out, But I for sure
was in that room witness the most top notch surgeons
and support team do that procedure, and I can say
confidently that we would refer our patients to them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Lisa runs a tight ship and they do amazing care there.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
A lot of people are asking how to get a
hold of Pinnacle or the Smith Medical Center. I put
them both on the blog, but Pinnacle is PINNACLEAPC dot com.
And I have probably fifteen super specific questions that you
guys need to call and talk to Travis about because
they're so highly specific that I don't want to kind

(01:33:44):
of get into the weeds on the radio.

Speaker 6 (01:33:46):
But just go to Pinnacle a PC.

Speaker 5 (01:33:49):
That's Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care, PINNACLEAPC dot com. And then
Lisa can be found at Smithdirectcare dot com. And if
you're anything like me, you're gonna go to the website
and look how much every surgery costs. That's what I
did yesterday, Lisa, So now I know how much every
single surgery at Smith's Direct Care is going to cost.

Speaker 6 (01:34:10):
Should I need to use your services?

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
Guys? I love what you're doing so much, Lisa. I'm
so glad you guys brought this to Colorado.

Speaker 9 (01:34:19):
Oh absolutely, and it's really fun to be a part
of it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:23):
Does somebody just ask what about physical therapy services after surgery.

Speaker 9 (01:34:31):
So we do have physical therapists that we work with
that can be a cash paid price or many times
they'll use their insurance because it doesn't mean a lot
of times when people are going direct or employers are
going direct, it doesn't mean that they don't carry an insurance.
It just means that they're putting them in a tighter
box and so they can use their insurance afterwards after

(01:34:54):
the surgery.

Speaker 5 (01:34:55):
I do have probably ten questions of this nature. Would
I benefit if I have Medicare Travis? How do you
deal with Medicare patients?

Speaker 13 (01:35:04):
Though with Medicare patients, they do have to sign an
opt out waiver.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
From a DPC standpoint, right, you cannot bill.

Speaker 13 (01:35:11):
Our services back to those government programs, right, But we
know there are gaps in that care. We know there
are gaps in payment, so we can actually help bridge that.
And then too, as people age, they need more than
a seven and a half visit, so we actually find
those folks are actually contracting with a DPC and us

(01:35:32):
it in direct paid resources even if they're using some
of those programs.

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
So what about the somebody asks, please ask your guests
what the monthly cost would compare to Blue Cross, Blue Shield.
We're a family of four and pay out the nose, Travis,
your prices, you can just give those for a family.

Speaker 6 (01:35:47):
What do they look like?

Speaker 13 (01:35:49):
So I would highly recommend that if you are a
family that's relatively healthy, low utilizer of healthcare, I would
recommend a combination of Direct Primary Care and Zion Health Share.
We can cut a We can get a family premium
to around six hundred dollars for the entire household with
roughly three thousand out of pocket, and plus you'll add
you know, one hundred or so on top of that

(01:36:10):
for your DPC membership. But we know families paying upwards
of seventeen hundred a month, Yeah, with fifteen thousand dollars deductibles.

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
PINNACLEAPC dot com, Smith Directcare dot Com, Lisa Fagan, Travis Barkinstead,
thank you so much for making time today and just
what a great thing to be happening in Colorado.

Speaker 10 (01:36:29):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Thanks Mandy, Thanks Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
Thanks Lisa. And now look with cat dragon. Oh you
got the tiny chair.

Speaker 10 (01:36:39):
Yeah you did this on purpose though, right, No, I.

Speaker 5 (01:36:41):
Didn't want Well, you can have the broken armchair.

Speaker 10 (01:36:43):
That's the broken armchairs chair.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
When I come in for Ross's show, I'm forced to
sit in the tiny.

Speaker 10 (01:36:49):
Chair, which of course gives you a big advantage.

Speaker 6 (01:36:52):
Well, a lollipopkick.

Speaker 14 (01:36:54):
You know how they do that on the big TV
talk shows, right, yeah, the guest. If you notice, like
ter men sitting way higher, the guest is down here.
That keeps him in a commanding position, you know, the strategy.
That's why I'm that's.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Why in your head being tall. I've never had to
think about that once in my life. I've always just
been intimidating.

Speaker 10 (01:37:17):
You know, if I didn't love you'a wouldn't be here.

Speaker 8 (01:37:19):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:37:21):
I'm here so you can humiliate me on your game.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
I Am not going to humiliate it. Stop it right now,
stop it, just stop it. Oh man, I didn't get
to the story about how men walk. And you can
tell how men fight by the way they walk. A
new study has shown this.

Speaker 10 (01:37:37):
I'm interested.

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
Well it's it's it's not just about men.

Speaker 5 (01:37:40):
Walking though, because it really does show as human beings,
we make judgments when we see someone moving towards us.
Is that person dangerous? Is that person not? And they
did a breakdown on how men walk and how they
present themselves, and how some men just look like if
you mess with them, they will knock you out.

Speaker 14 (01:37:55):
And every man will tell you when you walk into
a room, you evaluate, You do a quick evaluation of all.

Speaker 10 (01:38:02):
The other mens.

Speaker 6 (01:38:02):
You size them up, You size them up.

Speaker 10 (01:38:04):
Yeah, just a case, you got to throw it down.
That's how it is.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
I don't think about it because again I'm just intimidating.
But no, I was going to extrapolate it out to
women as well. When you're walking in a city, they're
women that nobody is going to mess with. I aspire
to be those women when I am in a city,
and then there are women who look like they are
going to be victims. And it's all in how you
carry yourself. It's all in your presence, in your physical being.

(01:38:27):
And for someone who says, well, that's not how I
am as a person, guess what.

Speaker 6 (01:38:31):
Feelings follow action.

Speaker 5 (01:38:33):
Take the action, open up, open up your chest, walk
like a stone cold baller, and you'll start to feel
like a stone, even if you're in the tiny chair.

Speaker 10 (01:38:42):
People people say. People say, walk tall. That's how it
walk tall.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
When you walk into a room, you do you when
you're walking on the street in a city like you
know a busy street, do you make eye contact with
people as you walk by?

Speaker 12 (01:39:01):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:39:01):
Oh, dude, I do.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
No, no, I I literally everybody knows I see you
as they walk by me. I gotta tell you, when
you're a woman, you got to think about this time.
You've got to throw out a vibe that says, if
you mess with me, I'm going to be the one
who takes your eyeballs out.

Speaker 10 (01:39:16):
We're just pointed Chuck.

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
Well, but he's not with me. When he's with me,
I don't worry about anything. He sizes up everything.

Speaker 14 (01:39:25):
Every time he sees exactly I stand that chair. But
this chair has got me quite the disadvantage.

Speaker 6 (01:39:32):
It really does.

Speaker 5 (01:39:33):
But now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio of It's gone in the world. Well done,
Rick lewis, well done.

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
All right, here we go. What is our dad joke
out the day? Please, Anthony, I.

Speaker 8 (01:39:49):
Am so close to becoming a billionaire. I have all
the zeros now I just need a one.

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
Yep, that is a one one point five because on
the show.

Speaker 8 (01:40:03):
Where what's the word of the day?

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
Please?

Speaker 14 (01:40:07):
It is a.

Speaker 8 (01:40:10):
Interjection?

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
Hey, what interjection?

Speaker 5 (01:40:14):
What is interjection?

Speaker 10 (01:40:15):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:40:16):
Quota quota quotes quota q.

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
U O t h as correct quota quoting someone or
something like quota.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
I don't think.

Speaker 14 (01:40:33):
I would say the same. You're you're trying to interject
something about what they said.

Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
Yeah, you would both be right if the word would
suggest what it would sound like.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
But no, it means indeed, quota.

Speaker 6 (01:40:47):
Of course, a quota. Yes, that's what it meant.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
Where in the world can you find the Bloody Bay
Coral Wall, a popular diving site featuring a vertical wall
of coral that glues with bioluminescent organism And why Hawaii?

Speaker 10 (01:41:02):
Yeah, I'm gonna go where in Hawaii?

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
I'm gonna go Indian, I'm going in Dni. No, I'm
going Australia. No, Maui Bloody And yeah you going Mali.

Speaker 6 (01:41:14):
Oh this is so sad.

Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
I've actually been to this before and I forgot until
right now. It's in the Little Cayman Islands, soth Little
Cayman and the Cayman Islands. One legend claims that Bloody
Bay's name is a nod to the many pirate battles
that were once fought there.

Speaker 8 (01:41:26):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Another credit is the name to It's used by nineteen
century whalers who butchered their catch there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
I have been there, cool time. Yes, Cayman Island, Hawaii.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
Uh well it's Caribbeans, so it's just a different vot.
Nothing is quite like Hawaii, you know what I mean? Yes,
but I love the Cayman Islands.

Speaker 10 (01:41:43):
I've never been there. Who love Hawaii? Though?

Speaker 6 (01:41:46):
If you want to go Caribbean, go to the Caymans.

Speaker 10 (01:41:48):
Okay, yeah, all right, for sure?

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:41:50):
Rick Lewis Nandy Connell. What is our category?

Speaker 8 (01:41:53):
The category is and I would never ever ever choose
a category that is catered towards a guest. I take
a fence in that. The category is pomp and rock music.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, how convenience Yeah okay for Mandy of course,
for the pomp sign it's the pop, it's the poppy.

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
I lose. Chuck is gonna make fun of me, so
I gotta win.

Speaker 8 (01:42:11):
You guys ever had a show together, it'd be called
pop Rocks. Here we go this hotel, California band first game,
Andy got it first, and you gave a tour the
correct Okay, I forgot how the great quish Oddly female
rapper Megan Pete calls herself Megan v Mandy?

Speaker 6 (01:42:29):
What is the stallion?

Speaker 10 (01:42:31):
That is correct?

Speaker 8 (01:42:32):
In twenty nineteen, this five letter wrap, an R and
B artist, had the juice to be nominated for Best
New Artist at the VMA's What year twenty nineteen?

Speaker 6 (01:42:42):
One word that's not helped?

Speaker 8 (01:42:45):
Letter wrap an R and B artist? Mm dated Maybe
a Minnesota Viking?

Speaker 10 (01:42:52):
What Rick? Ricky? That is?

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Who?

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
Who? Who? Lizzo?

Speaker 10 (01:42:58):
Half poiso? Sure, half pint?

Speaker 6 (01:43:00):
I'm giving them twite five five?

Speaker 10 (01:43:03):
Oh wait a minute, you know who it was?

Speaker 6 (01:43:05):
I didn't in twenty nineteen as well myself a point?

Speaker 8 (01:43:08):
I gave you a negative one?

Speaker 10 (01:43:10):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:43:11):
In twenty nineteen, Madonna performed at, but did not compete
in this international song competition that I've never heard of.

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
No, it's the European song it's Mandy. What is Eurovision?

Speaker 8 (01:43:21):
That is correct?

Speaker 10 (01:43:22):
Good one.

Speaker 8 (01:43:24):
This Jackson Brown album about Life on the Road was
recorded on stage, backstage, in hotel rooms, and on a
tour bus.

Speaker 6 (01:43:32):
Say this is what Chuck's gonna yell at me about?

Speaker 5 (01:43:33):
I should know this?

Speaker 10 (01:43:35):
Rick running on empty?

Speaker 8 (01:43:36):
That is correct?

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
What is the score?

Speaker 6 (01:43:38):
One point five to three?

Speaker 8 (01:43:39):
Oh it was a respectable loss, probably respectable.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
Yeah, Oh, it's over. Yeah, it's over to only five question?

Speaker 8 (01:43:46):
Of course, I mean we can go another any more minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:43:49):
Okay, you don't get going for the first three?

Speaker 10 (01:43:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:43:52):
Fourth quarter, guy, Okay, you were down nineteen to nothing
going into the like third question. You made it respectable,
but you missed the field goal.

Speaker 6 (01:44:00):
Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 10 (01:44:01):
We're so close.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
That is so close.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
I'm assuming that Rick Lewis is going to be on
KOI Sports today, otherwise you'd be napping right now.

Speaker 10 (01:44:08):
I came in here just for you, bandy. Then I'm
going to drive all the way back home.

Speaker 8 (01:44:11):
No, you did not.

Speaker 10 (01:44:12):
Now I'm here for the sports show.

Speaker 6 (01:44:13):
Yeah, do you know what's what you guys are talking
about to I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:44:15):
Sure we'll talk a little bit about the unbelievable game
Sunday because I haven't had a chance to talk with
the guys about that yet, and the game coming up,
big game against the Cowboys coming.

Speaker 10 (01:44:27):
Up this week.

Speaker 5 (01:44:27):
I know the Cowboys are ascendant. They're not great, but
they're better than I thought they were going to be
this year, and they've been playing hard.

Speaker 14 (01:44:33):
They're ascending. You're right, and they have a really good offense.
Their defense kind of stink.

Speaker 6 (01:44:37):
Yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:44:38):
Luckily they should be able to shut us out for
the first three quarters anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:44:42):
Koi Sports coming up next.