10-23-25 FULL SHOW - You Can Scare Your Car, And Evil Landlord Denver Wants Rent

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:27):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Thursday edition of the show.
I'm your host for the next three hours. Mandy Connell, joined,
of course by that guy right over there, he is
Anthony Rodriguez. Together we will take you right up until
three p m. When we will hand this station over
to KOA sports big story of the day did not
make it on the blog because I heard it on

(00:48):
my way to the office. I had to come in today.
I got to record some new commercials from my one
of my favorite clients, Regen Revolution. I love all my clients,
but Regen has been with me for over a decade
since they were Downtown's Healthcare, and brought in a bunch
of people today to record some commercials. It'll be hearing
some fascinating stories. But I just heard about Chauncey Pillips,
so we don't have that on the blog. But we're

(01:08):
trying to get someone from ABC News on at about
two point thirty and hopefully we will have more information.
I mean no, I don't know if any more information
is going to be released today, So that is I
don't know. Can we just talk about that for a second,
a rod, because we don't have it on the blog
and I want to. I've been locked in all morning.
I did some investigation on it, and it appears that

(01:32):
not only there's two people. Terry Roser was also arrested.
Rosier already arrested, also arrested. Now, answer me, this was
Chauncey Billips just accused of being the face man for
illegal card games? Or is he also accused of using
inside information a place bets?

Speaker 5 (01:51):
So he is on the two investigations. He is locked
into the one with the poker games. Yeah, not bo
with the poker games.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
So he's not involved directly in the sports betting. He
was just the face that was being used to lure
people into what has been alleged to be fixed card games.
Now one has to think there are two reasons that
Chauncey Billups would do this. Number one, they flat out
just offered him money to come in and be the face.

(02:19):
Or number two, he got in with the mob because
this is a mafia related case. And got into deep
and they said, you know what, We'll work with you
if you just do this thing. Is there another reason
that I'm missing Anthony? I mean, I've watched enough Mafia
shows to know how this goes, right, my honest, And
this is a total assumption, admitted assumption.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
My first inkling always with these stories is how bad
have you been with your money? How much do you owe?
How do you not know how to say no to
everyone that asks you for money? And they put themselves
in these spots where they have to get that much
more money, more than their playing days, more than their
coaching days, more than any analyst days.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
They're just in bad situations. I don't know what chance
Phillips's background is. I mean, did he come from poverty.
I've had conversations with athletes who had come from poverty.
As a matter of fact, Nick Ferguson and I have
talked about this because Nick did not come from an
affluent background, and he has many brothers and sisters who
have made really bad choices. Right, so Nick is like
the kind of the most successful I believe, of all

(03:19):
of his siblings, and talking about the mindset of you
have to help everybody because you know, a poverty mindset
is all you have are people? Right, Wait, let me
change that. I don't want to say that kept relying
on other people is only in poverty. Wow, this is
like a bigger conversation that I just accidentally sort of
wandered into. We'll talk about that later. Just talking about

(03:41):
how people when they struggle coming up, they feel a
real responsibility to try and lift everyone up with them,
and unfortunately a lot of times they get taken advantage of.
And this is not a black thing, happens to white
people who are successful as well. So it's a very
difficult balancing act. And I don't want to cast dispersions
on Chauncey Billups until we know more about what is
actually happening here. But what I'm not surprised by this,

(04:05):
and I just said this with Ross. I think with
the rise of sports betting, this was bound to happen
because there's so much money to be made and it
probably feels like a quote victimless crime in the sense
that separating people from their money, if they can't afford
to lose it, they shouldn't play, right, that's the rationale there. Well,

(04:26):
on this one, there are two totally different things going on.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
So with the Terry Rozier one, basically the only way
that individuals can control this. So the majority of all
this stuff Terry's involved in is prop bets specific to
individual players, so a lot of under bets because it's
hard to control over bets because you have to make
sure you score enough under bets. He would potentially fake
injuries or go out early. And I read a story
like the night of one time doing that him and

(04:51):
everyone involved were counting the bills at home that night,
counting the money from hiking money on an under bet
that night. The Chauncey Bill saying, Mandy, I've told you
my favorite movie of all time is Ocean's thirteen. Yes,
Chauncey billups full on Danny Ocean style. I mean, we're
talking in these poker games, X ray tables, rigged shuffling machines,

(05:13):
and I got I listened the press of this morning.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
It's crazy. Special contact lenses and.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Eyeglasses, oh my god, poker chip, tray analyzers, anything and
everything you could think of.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
You would see straight out of Oceans thirteen, Oceans eleven,
Oceans twelve. What everyone you want to like?

Speaker 5 (05:28):
All that stuff insane. Yeah, involved in all of it,
and he is in some deep doo dooo.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Well, I would imagine so, But do you do you
see another reason how the mob could have gotten him
to do this other than one they just offered him
a gob smackingly large sum of money. I doubt that,
because usually the mob doesn't work like that. The mob
gets you on something and then you work for the mob.
I've seen enough cough shows. Maybe and again total assumption. Yeah,

(05:53):
thrown out the thought.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Maybe during his playing days he made some poor decisions
on connections he made with people, maybe.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Add some debts. See I hope not. I don't know
they came afterward, you know what I mean. I prefer
to think that that his issues came because he was
making really good money while he was playing. You know
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
These I make some bad decisions and not know how
to say no to family members and friends, not know
how to save their money, not know how to not
pile up lots of debt. And people could say, well,
you make X amount of dollars, but that could pale
in comparison to the amount that they have wrapped up
in debt over the decades. Of being the face of
basketball like Johncey was in Denver, in Detroit with the Buffs.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I mean, it's yeah, I don't know. Like I said,
we don't know. We're trying to get someone from ABC
on it. Two thirty. I doubt that any more new
information is going to be released by the by the
authorities on this until the next stage of this prosecution
moves forward. But this is just really incredibly what a
terrible fall from grace for Chauncey. Billups.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Well, we do know really sad thing on the basketball
side because the NBAH is kicked off their season, what
we do, tipped off their season. What we do know
is the NBA is going to distance themselves quickly from this.
They've already put I believe Chauncey and Terry on leave.
Chauncey the head coach the Blazers now. Terry Rozier now
with a heat but he did this when he was
with the Hornets. Role player, has been good, went to Louisville.

(07:17):
He's a good player. The NBA is going to distance themselves.
They're gonna probably ban both of them in some capacity.
Definitely Terry Rozier for sure, because it's directly individual related games.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Uh, the NBA doesn't mess around.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
They've set President John Tay Porter, Michael Porter, Junior's brother.
They already banned him for a life right, you know,
in the past, So they aren't gonna mess around. They
need to separate themselves because the NBA needs to say,
continue betting on games.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
They're not rigged. We're not gonna let these players and
coaches impact this.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
These guys, the hammer will come down hard and probably
well before there's any legal decisions made.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
The NBA is not gonna waste time mess around. They're
going to have to wonder how many other professional athletes
are puckered up.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
To the ones not getting Yeah, the ones getting caught
are freaking out. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
I mean, how can you remotely feel any confidence if
you are a professional athlete in any sport I mean
it is involved in gambling at any point.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Well, let's be honest too. This is making me. I
don't gamble on sports. The most I ever do is
maybe I can fantasy with friends. There are added reasons
why I'm like, I don't know, because it's like peds
in a way that these are the guys getting caught.
Who's not getting caught, that isn't dumb enough to get caught.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
So I think for the majority like it doesn't happen,
but there's some bad eggs and the leagues have to
maneuver around letting people know it is still okay to
gamble on sports. The integrity of the game is alive.
And that's a scary thought. Lots of money being thrown
around now, a lot.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Of money being thrown around. It's been interesting to me
to go on x and see people not justifying what's
going on, but kind of posting these posts like yeah,
there was three hundred million in gambling and Colorabady alone
last year, Like, okay, I get it, but there are
there are guardrails when you have a job, there are
guard wheels that are on that position for a reason.

(09:11):
Now our coaches, I guess coaches are prohibited from gambling
on games as well, but always like, I don't know.
I'm not a gambler, so I don't get it. I
have interviewed compulsive gamblers on my show in the past,
and I can understand an addiction to drugs or alcohol
more easily than I can understand an addiction to gambling,

(09:34):
although they are rooted in the same kind of dopamine release.
It's you know, there's in your brain things happen. But
for me, it's like, God, I work hard for my money.
I don't want to just give that away. And that's
kind of what it is, because I can't control that.
To your point, a Rod, You're right. They do have
to establish or re establish their credibility, and the only
way to do that is to not only come down

(09:57):
like a hammer on Chauncey billups Rosier, but also to
basically send a memo out today to every every single
team that says, you better share this with every player.
If you guys get caught, you're out of the league permanently,
in forever. And that's it.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Yeah, that that thought they need to ring through the
heads of every athlete across every sport. So every league
lets players know you even consider it, you come close
to this, you're never stepping foot on this court exactly.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
Then they have to do it.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yeah, they have to do it, which they have so far.
Like I said, John Tay Porter, Michael Port Junior's brother
has been banned for life. I'm going to venture to
guess Harry Rozier is about to get banned for life.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, they won't know. They'll let it play out. They'll
they'll let it. They'll suspend him indefinitely. They'll do their
own internal investigation. They'll probably talk to the FBI.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Well about the Rosiers thing. I was telling this Chad
Bower and the New York Posts had this an article
as well. The NBA on Terry Rozier had already conducted
an internal investigation.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I had heard Terry Rosier's name before.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Regarding something like this, and I'm not sure if he
was full unclear, but it definitely it definitely went away.
And now it's come back up because the FBI stepped
into their own thing, right, So I don't know if
they're saying the NBA didn't do a good enough job
or they found maybe other evidence or something, but perhaps.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
They brought in the FBI. There's another we don't, we don't.
There's so much about this story we don't know.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
We don't.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
And again, but it's talk to me, not all at once,
a Chauncey thing. It's it's it's they're separate, but also
but they're being done separate but serious.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Yeah, and there is not a no big deal accusation.
This isn't like he kidd a check, you know, which
would be bad, but not this bad. This is really
really bad, and we're gonna be following it. And if
there's any new information, you're gonna hear it here. But
now let's do the blog, shall we? Because I work
so hard on it this morning. Now, aeron, I didn't
include every video because if Nancy's gonna judge me on

(11:46):
how long it takes me to get through this thing,
I gotta, I gotta. You know, Nancy's judging, but we
want more. I'm just saying. Anyway, find the blog by
going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's Mandy's blog dot com.
Look for the headline that says ded twenty three twenty
five blog you can scare your car and the evil
Landlord Denver wants rent. Click on that and here are
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Speaker 5 (12:08):
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and clipmas a sea that's going to press.

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(12:33):
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(13:15):
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Too seriously, Nancy, Ah, draumatic pause, love it, traumatic pause. Indeed, Now,

(13:40):
I bet you did not know that we have a
haunted a car wash right here in the Denver Metro
as a matter of fact, two of them. We've got
the owner of Gleam car Wash, EMILYE. Baraa, coming on
at one o'clock to talk about it. Now, I'm interested
to know if there are people inside the car wash,
like as the rushes hit your car, they're gonna jump out,

(14:02):
scare you that way. I'm interested. I'm not gonna go
I am because here I hate it. You're going tomorrow. Okay,
so you have a full report on Monday. Excited. We'll
talk to Emily about that at one. Do they go
in the car because there are some where they open
the doors in the car. Nope, not gonna, not gonna
be a thing. Yeah, no, I'm good, not even a
little bit. By the way, just confirmed, we've had ABC

(14:24):
News as crime and Terrorism analyst Brad Garrett coming up
at two thirty to talk about the Chauncey Billups situation.
I just got confirmation on that, so we'll do that
again at two thirty. Now, the biggest story of the
day in my opinion, and you can tell me I'm wrong,
but I'm talking about here in the Denver Metro. The
biggest story of the day is that once again government

(14:45):
proves that they suck at anything that should be done
in the private market. Case endpoint. Yesterday I brought you
the story of the Denver Post building. You may remember
that just a few years ago the city decided to
buy the building with the name the Denver Post on it,
and the city was going to lease back the offices

(15:07):
that the Denver Post had been using. Except the Denver
Post had left those offices long long ago. How do
I know a Denver Gazette story from the Denver Gazette story.
Let me see if I can get to this very
very quickly, because I forgot to put it on the
blog and now I need to find out. Okay, So

(15:31):
two years ago Denver paid eighty eight point five million
dollars for the Denver Post building, and there was a
lease by the Denver Post DP Network Media that at
least three hundred and six or at least several hundred
thousand square feet for the Denver Post. Except the Denver
Post had already left the building. Yes, they had a lease,

(15:55):
but they were gone out of the building, and apparently
it never occurred to anyone at the City of Denver
to ask what if they want out of their lease,
who's going to pay the rent? Then city officials, this
from the Denver Gazette, hoped that existing lease payments, as
well as future occupancy from city entities such as court

(16:18):
and legal services, would make the three hundred and six
thousand square foot building profitable. By the way, it would
have never been profitable at that because if you're leasing
office space to government in a business the government owns,
there's no profit there. There's no I mean, how can
you not there's no profit there. As of August, DP

(16:40):
Media Network, the owner of the Denver Post, stop making
its monthly lease payments of almost six hundred and fifty
thousand dollars, and now the city has sent a default
notice and they're asking for their two million dollars back. That's,
by the way, what is owed on the lease and
with late fees and things of that nature. But you, guys,

(17:00):
how can you not look at this and say, this
is why, this is why governments shouldn't be buying real estate.
This is why government sucks at all of this Because
of a private investor. It looked at this building, first
of all, knowing what buildings are selling for downtown right now.
Zero percent chance they would have ever paid eighty eight
million for this building. It would not have happened. You
can buy a skyscraper right now for like two point one. Okay,

(17:24):
nobody would have paid eighty eight million for this building.
But then a person who works in real estate investment
for profit would have looked at this and said, Wow,
that largest tenant isn't even in the building anymore. Why
would we have any expectation that they would keep paying
the bills. Let's be real, you guys. When you've got
a hedge fund backing you, like Alden Capitol, you don't

(17:45):
care about your credit score.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
What are they gonna do?

Speaker 4 (17:49):
The city has no leverage here at all, Like literally
no leverage. There's nothing in the building that they can
seize because they've moved out long time ago. This is
my favorite, favorite, favorite statement from the mayor's spokesperson. Denver
pays its debts on time, and DP Media Network should

(18:12):
do the same. We're working with the tenant to restart
payments and intend to recover every penny we are owed
now They say that the company is offered to buy
out its lease with Denver, and that the company hopes
to reach a mutually beneficial agreement. The Denver Post putted
marshall Anstadig, the general counsel for the post parent company

(18:35):
Media Newsgroup, of saying we stopped occupying this space while
the space while the building was under private ownership, long
before the city purchased it, so there was never any
impression we we be using the space when the city
made the decision to purchase the building. You guys, I

(18:55):
find myself in a very weird place. I find myself
in total agreement with Councilmember Flora Alvadrez. I don't know
if I've ever been in agreement with Floor Alvadrez on
anything before in my life, but yet I feel her
very very much when she says this is devastating for
the people of Denver. She posted on her Facebook page Tuesday,

(19:16):
this deal was never a good deal. The city knew
this risk existed, and now accountability has to be front
and center. I'm digging into how this deal was made,
what safeguards were or weren't in place, and how we
protect taxpayers going forward. I won't let this get swept
under the rug. One of the reasons I voted know
on this is because the council never got all the information. Now,

(19:39):
if you want to know what I think happened here,
I think that the City of Denver, through the Mayor's office,
decided that they were going to do a solid for
the Denver Post. And what did they get in return?

Speaker 5 (19:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
But isn't it weird that there was recently an expose
on a social media account that attacks the mayor. Maybe
there's no Maybe there's there's no connection there. I'm just
saying they just happen to happen at the same time.
Emily Barada, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Why, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
I have to tell you, Emily, and the interest of
full disclosure, my producer, Anthony Rodriguez, absolutely loves haunted houses.
I am on the other end of this. I'm on
the other end of the spectrum. I hate being startled,
I hate like being scared. So you have everybody represented
right here on the show. But you own a car
wash and now this weekend and next weekend it is

(20:32):
a haunted car wash. What does that even look like?

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 8 (20:36):
So, first of all, there are two haunted car washes,
and we are doing it this coming Friday, this coming Saturday,
and the thirtieth, which is the Thursday before Halloween. And
it's seven to nine pm at both locations.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
One is in Denver. One is an aura and what
does it look like? Ghoules and scary clowns.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
And we have all sorts of smoke machines and blood
and oh noises.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
You just you're gonna have to come see it for yourself.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Now, I'm gonna send Anthony. He's coming on Friday to
do our full report because I really hate beings started up.
Now here's my question, in a practical manner, are you
still getting a great car wash?

Speaker 7 (21:15):
Of course you're gonna get a wonderful car wash at Gleam.
Gleam is we like to think for the best car
wash in town. Where one of the few independent car
washes left.

Speaker 8 (21:24):
We're one of the very few car washes owned and
run by a woman in the entire country, and we
take a lot of pride in the product that we
put out. Now we are mostly focused on scaring the
Bejesus out of you at our Haunted Tunnel. So We
are also giving everybody a half off coupon to our
top wash.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
Good only for November, so they can come back and
get the full.

Speaker 8 (21:46):
Car wash a versus the ghouls and goblins and scary
machete wielding clowns.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Now, I've seen these different car wash all over the country, Emily,
people do it different ways in these haunted car washes.
I have a question a follow up response that the
answer is no. The question is do your individuals that
scare people? Are they allowed to open doors and go
through and terrorize people? And if the answer is no,

(22:15):
can I give you my consent and authorization to do
it to us?

Speaker 7 (22:20):
Yes, the answer is no.

Speaker 8 (22:22):
And if you have given us your full consent and authorization,
we can have a scary scary clown.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
Even go through the car wash with you.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yes, please, but you.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Get special dispensation.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
All of our scary clowns, all of our creepy crawleys.
They are going to scare you from outside the car. Now,
you might wind up with one or two bloody handprints
that will come off in the wash, but that's it.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
My question is are they inside the car wash part?
Like you're gonna have the spinning things going around and
then all of a sudden, somebody's gonna jump out. That's
what I hate. Ay Rod loves it. I hate it.
That is it gonna be in the car wash too.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
So at both of the car washes, we have a
lot of space for queueing, for lining up right, and
so most of the action is going to happen.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
That kind of scary costumed action is gonna happen while
you wait.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
When you're in the tunnel, We've got all sorts of
cool lighting effects and sound effects, and it's going to
look like it's blood coming down on your vehicle. But
we know that some people are actually scared of normal
car washes, and we take safety very seriously. So hands
off the wheel, hands off the gas pedal, but off
the feet off the gas pedal, feet off the break,

(23:36):
off the break, sit back, relax, enjoy that show.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
And then as you exit the tunnel you'll have some
more surprises.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
How did you get this idea, Emily, I mean, how
did this come about? Well? I had so.

Speaker 8 (23:50):
My first car wash is nine years old and the
second one in Aurora opened two years ago, and this
idea has been floating around. There are a couple of
car washes throughout the country, not a lot, but a
few that do this regularly.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
And we always thought, Wow, wouldn't that be super fun
to do? But that's a lot of work. And so
this year, you know, we looked around the state of
the world, the state of everything, and we thought, everybody
needs a little scare, a little fun, a little levity.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
This is our year.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
We're going to do it.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
How spooky is the price on how car washing at
the Haunted Car Wash?

Speaker 7 (24:24):
How spooky is going to be? So spooky?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Was that your question? How spooky is the price? I saw?
I think I's online. It's atually pretty chap. Come through,
get a car wash and get scared.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
It is twenty dollars. I mean that's not twenty dollars
a car. That's all your friends into one car.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Come on through, Emily Burana, tell people where they can
find your car washes, your Gleam car washes for the
Spooky Haunted House this weekend and next Thursday. Where can
people find those locations?

Speaker 7 (24:52):
Oh my gosh, we're so easy to find.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
So Gleam Denver is at four eight nine to five
West thirty eighth Avenue. So it's essentially the interesting of
West thirty eighth and Sheridan, so we're in the Denver
Highlands and my other location is in Aurar. It's fifteen
nine to eleven East Colfax, so it's Annie Colfax. It's
past I two twenty five. It's between Chambers and Airport.
We've got a really big site. It's going to be

(25:15):
a really great show. And then you can find more
details at our website which is gleamcarwash dot com.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Emily, I don't know if you know this, but my
producer Anthony is quite the scary clown. And I'm not
saying that you should bring him into consult for your
scary clowns. But I'm just saying, like, if you need
some coaching, or if they're not scary enough, if people
say you're clown, you call a rod and give her
a little laugh. For me, a rod to give her
what she doesn't know as out there, Emily.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
You have my full consent to do anything you want
to me and my group this coming Friday.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
See. I mean, so if you need any help, I'm
freaking people out. We've got someone that can that can
do that.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
I don't know if we can help that. That is
pretty good Hey, you know what, you want to come
down and help scare people us.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
I mean I'm gonna say no. I always will say
yes to that. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Well, you'll see him on the since you'll see him
on Friday, and you guys can go this weekend or
next Thursday. Emily Barda from Glean car Wash, thanks for
your time, Thanks for your time to I hope it
goes really really well and this becomes an annual tradition
for freak shows like a rod who love this stuff? Awesome?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
All right?

Speaker 4 (26:22):
That's Emily Barada with Gleam car Wash. What else could
you make into us in a haunted house? Like right now?
You could do a grocery store haunted house where you
have to go in and buy beef, you know, Like
have you seen the videos of people doing adult haunted houses?
Like around one go it's like your rent's going up.
Oh you're refrigerated broke exactly. All right, we're gonna do

(26:49):
a quick time out. Several of you made comments about
the Denver Post story, and someone has a suggestion on
how to measure a person's competence for political office, and
I have to say they're being cheeky and I don't
entirely disagree. We'll do that next. I was talking about

(27:09):
the fact that there's a spice shop out there that
hates Republicans, and there's another spice shop that I shop at,
Savory Spice, that not only doesn't I don't know what
their politics are and I don't care, but they don't
put hateful things about me on their website and around
and their spices are amazing. And somebody just said a
text and said, Mandy, what spice were you talking about
yet yesterday? And I was talking about in the holiday season,

(27:31):
if you're doing any baking, you would be floored by
what a difference incredibly good spices make. And at Savory
Spice Shop, you can go and you can buy you know,
you can buy it by different volumes, so depending on
how much you need, you can buy it. But they're
supreme sigon, cinnamon, holy macaroni. It's like a game changer.

(27:53):
And I know that sounds so stupid, but it's there
are certain spices that I think you can get away with.
You know, you're basically like your garlic, things like that,
you buy them the grocery store if you want to
save money. But when you're talking about those pronounced spices.
If you buy good quality spices, it just elevates whatever
you're doing. And then someone else asks about the cocoa

(28:13):
that I use, which is gobsmackingly expensive. Right now, the
price of cocoa is through the roof. I'm just letting
you know. You have to buy like a two pound bag.
It's very cocal erry cocoa, extra bruit. It's dark chocolate cocoa.
But before you order it, and you have to order
it online. You can't buy it in a store here,
b ar ry coco. Just look for that. You're gonna

(28:36):
find it before you order it. Know this, you cannot
go back to grocery store cocoa after you try this
cocoa in any of your big goods. You can't. It
is like it just tastes like disappointment. It really does
so great. Spices Like I go to Savory Spice and
I buy all of my individual spices to make like

(28:56):
a pumpkin pie spice. Now you can buy their pumpkin
pie spice, but I have a different recipe that I
like a little bit more. So ill by all the
individual components to make all of my own pumpkin spice
stuff for the holidays and their sigone Cinnamon Chef's kiss
next level anyway, answering that on the text line, first, Mandy,
do you and Chuck and Q scare each other on Halloween?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
All, my family knows I have limitations. Okay. One of
those limitations is don't startle me. I startle myself all
the time. No, they don't do that because I really
don't like it. I don't like scary movies. I don't
like being scared. I don't like it. I don't enjoy it. Mandy,
let me get to the candidate test that I talked

(29:40):
about before. This Texter, says Mandy. A new test has
been developed to measure a person's competence for a political office.
A bathtub is filled with water and the candidate is
given a spoon, a teacup, and a small pail. This
test was actually given, says the Texture to Michael Bennett, Jared,
Mike Johnston, and JD. Vance. They were asked what they'd

(30:04):
use to empty the water from the tub. Then it
set a spoon, Paula said the teacup. Johnston said he'd
float a bond issue to study the issue, and Jadvance
paused and then said i'd pull the plug. I mean,
it's funny, you guys. Mad He'd been doing a lot
of cinnamon research and I found that Whole Foods brand
cinnamon is the cleanest out there in the least amount

(30:26):
of lead. There's been a big cinnamon lead scandal. If
you're buying your spices at the Dollar Tree and don't
get please do not take this as a judgment, because
there have been times when I could not afford expensive
coco and I couldn't afford expensive cinnamon. I don't think
the cinnamon at Savory Spice is crazily expensive, but you know,
there's been a lot of issues with cinnamon from China.

(30:48):
I don't know about Savory. Maybe we'll see if we
can get somebody from on the show to come on
and talk about it about the cinnamon situation. Is the
sigone cinnamon in their pumpkin spice, I don't know, but
their pumpkin spice has a little too much ginger in
it for me. That's a little too pronounced for me.
So I kind of pulled back on that just a

(31:09):
little bit.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Man.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I wonder if that Republican hating spice shop has a
Republican voting tax accountant. Maybe maybe probably not, though, because
this guy probably vets everyone to make sure that no
dirty Republicans are in his immediate sphere. Mandy, I made
my own roasted garlic powder in the air fryer.

Speaker 9 (31:27):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
I am intrigued, Texter. If you would email me at
Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com, that would be fantastic.
Before the weather turned, I harvested all of my herbs
and I dried my herbs in the oven, and I
made my own dried herbs to put what, Anthony, you
look like you have something to say. Maybe I do.

(31:49):
What do you have to say? I don't know. Maybe
you go to the Haunted Car wash tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Maybe yours really just locked in this scaring people at
that Haunt car tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Who's gonna bebby scaring people with the Aurora location?

Speaker 6 (31:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (31:59):
Me.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, it's definitely bad. I'm doing it, Mandy. Savory spices
are the same or less than grocery store spices and
ten times better, at least ten times better at least
back to the blog because I got a lot of
stuff today. When we get back, because we're almost out
of time. I just realized what time it was. There's
a couple of stories that I want to get into

(32:21):
in the next segment. One, may Or Mike Johnston unilaterally
extended the Flock camera contract. What does that even mean.
It means that the license plate reading cameras that are
around the Denver Metro that, from what I understand, have
been pretty instrumental in helping solve quite a few crimes.
Those cameras will continue operating under an extension of the

(32:44):
contract with the City of Denver. Now, why is this
even controversial? You'd think, Okay, we've got license plate readers.
The notion that there is any expectation of privacy in
public is long over. You guys. If you think that
anything you'd do outside of your home, even in your
front yard, if you think there's any expectation of privacy there,

(33:06):
you're crazy. We live in a world full of cell
phone cameras, and now we live in a world for
all of license plate readers. And I'm okay with it
that when you hear why hundreds of people came out
to protest against it, you'll probably I roll just like
I did.

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Speaker 4 (33:43):
Andy Connell keeping you sad thing, Welcome, Welcome well Thanty
two in the second hour of the show. Now, after
we were talking about cooking and cinnamon and spices, I
got a flurry of questions on the text line about
cinnamon that I didn't have an answer to. So we
called the Savory Spy Shop in Southlands and we're gonna
bring on now kiymy, who's going to help us wade

(34:06):
our way through this? First of all, Kamie, that's the
store that I shop at, So I probably have seen
you before.

Speaker 10 (34:12):
You possibly have. It depends on what day of the
week you come in.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
But yeah, it's whenever I'm in that area. I kind
of pop in and kind of replenish when i'm over there.
And I'm over there more than you might think, because
I love a breakfast place over there. She blonde, tall
with glasses. That's me, not Kamie. I don't know. Yeah, anyway,
I'll say hello one. Yeah, I'll seek you out if
the next time I'm in there and find out if
you're there, but thank you for making time today because

(34:36):
we have cinnamon questions. Now. Yesterday I was talking on
the show about how I love your Sigon cinnamon, which
I didn't know the difference between the saigon cinnamon and
the seal. Is it ceylon cinnamon, ceylon salon celon? Okay?
So what what are the different cinnamons? What do you
guys have?

Speaker 10 (34:54):
So we have three different kinds of cinnamon. Ceylon is
going to be your healthy cinnamon. It has less cinnamon
oil because it comes from the inside bark of the
true cinnamon tree, and so it's a little lighter, little
more brittle, it has more of a citrusy flavor, and
it's got more of the health benefits. So this would

(35:14):
be the cinnamon that you would put on your oatmeal,
put in your breakfast shakes, put in your coffee in
the morning, tea, that kind of thing. So it's gonna
be something you're going to add to a better part
of your breakfast menu. And it is good for reducing
your A one C. You have free diabetes, you're watching
your A one C that kind of thing. It helps

(35:36):
to kind of lower the A one C. It's a
great way to trick your taste buds into tasting sweet
without there actually being any extra added sugar to it.
So it's a really good option. It's you can use
it for baking, but I find that it doesn't keep
its flavor quite as strong. So there are other cinnamons

(35:57):
that are used for baking, and those are your caste
of cinnamons. They are used. They actually use the outside
bark of the cinnamon tree, and so they are a
little more sturdy, and they're better if you're going to
be using them for say, like you're drinks and that
kind of thing, if you're soaking them, if you're putting

(36:17):
them into your popery or whatever, mulling spices, that kind
of thing. So these are the ones you're going to
use more for that because they're they're better, there's less brittle,
and they'll hold their shape. You wanted to put little
flakes and pieces everywhere in your drinks. So you're Kasia cinnamons.
We have two kind of Kassia cinnamons. One of you
is your Indonesian that's closest to what you get in

(36:38):
the grocery stores, a little more mild than you're supreme
and it's a great one for baking. If you don't
like the intensity of our supreme sigon, then your Indonesian
is going to be a better choice.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Sigon is the stuff that I use for baking that
is just next level and it elevates any they could
wait beyond what grocery store cinnamon can do. I mean, honestly,
it is. It is next level. So what is the perception?
Is it less healthy? Is it unhealthy? What is the
perception there that's different about that sygon cinnamon?

Speaker 10 (37:13):
Syglon cinnamon is not as less healthy. It just doesn't
have the same effects on your body as the salon.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Okay, it's still good for you.

Speaker 10 (37:21):
It's just you know, you're going to be using less
of it, especially the supreme Sigon. You're gonna be using
a lot less of it because it's more intense. Think
of like your cinnamun. It's almost that intense red hot flavor.
And it's great for you know, your cinnamon, anything that
you really want that cinnamon to shine in. You can
certainly use it according to what the recipe calls for.

(37:42):
But if you're a little more sensitive to that, you
might step down to the Indonesian or you might use
a little less of that supreme sigon in your baking.
So I think of it like your cinnamun.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Cinnamon, right, and it's outstanding for baking. And I use
regular I guess I use the regular cinnamon I put
in my coffee for the health benefits that you were
talking about earlier, but I use the I call it
the fancy cinnamon because because it feels fancier for baking.
I do have a question about your pumpkin pie spice
because I use your seasonings to make my own pumpkin

(38:13):
pie spice, because your pumpkin pie spice is a little
too ginger forward for me. But someone asked what kind
of cinnamon you have in the pumpkin pie spice.

Speaker 10 (38:23):
That's a really good question. Give me a second here
and let me go look. I don't have that off
the top of my head. Let me look here real quick,
you would. It looks like we have the cyclone cinnamon,
the Indonesian cinnamon, or the two that are in that
pumpkin piece.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
So it's got both. Yes, Oh, perfect? Okay. So now
you guys are located in Southlands? Where where are their
other savory shops? If people want to go find some
of these spices to elevate their holiday baking this year.

Speaker 10 (38:53):
Sure, So there are seven stores in Colorado and one
up in Fort Collins, one down in There's one in downtown,
one in Little Ten, one out Lowry, we're in Southlands,
and there's one in Colorado Springs. So there should be
seven total. Perfect, And if they go on the website,
you can look up Savory locations and it will give

(39:16):
you the information for that store and it'll give you,
you know, basically where to find it. They'll give you
a phone number and then a cool thing here, you
want to.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Check this out.

Speaker 10 (39:25):
Every store has one or two blends that are specific
to that location. Shut up that the different stores. Yeah,
so Savory Southlands has an Italian Mountain and a Southlands
one that we make here in the back of the store.
Everything else is assembled typically downtown.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
In our.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Warehouse.

Speaker 10 (39:46):
Okay, but every store has one or two blends that
they make in the back that are specific to that location.
So if you travel, it's a lot of fun to
go figure out what the different blends are in the
different locations.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Well, so you can order online, but I'm going to
tell you every every time I go to savory spies.
I kind of spend a little time poking around looking
at things that I may not be using about Sue
Mac last time. I've never really cooked with Sue Mac before.
So it's an opportunity when you go in the store
talk to the people who work there because, like Kamy,
like you, guys know a lot about this and you

(40:21):
can say I'm looking to do something different, or I'm
looking to do some more Mediterranean style cooking, or you know,
any of those things, and they can direct you in
the right place. Gami, thank you for the clarification. Oh,
I wanted to ask you one more thing. Have you
guys been affected at all by the new kind of
information out about lead in cinnamon. There's a lot of
discussions about that. That was actually what I was going

(40:43):
to talk to you about. First place.

Speaker 10 (40:45):
Good thing is Savery does a lot of research before
they source their products, and so they have, as my
understanding is, they have a third party testing facility or
a third party testing company that does do the testing
for the cinnamon, and we have not been affected by
that because our sourcing has been very pure and very

(41:05):
you know, kind of figured out ahead of time, so
we have not had any issue with that through Savory
and I know other companies have, so you're a good
quality product as well as good quality prices and that
sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Excellent caami from Savory Spy Shops in south Land. Thank
you so much for making time. I bet this time
at your best time of year with all the holidays stuff.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
You're the gaming.

Speaker 10 (41:28):
Yeah, we are getting ready for the holidays, so definitely
come into you know shop and Savory. We've got lots
of new holiday stuff coming out in the next couple
of weeks. We do a special promotional and every time
that Thanksgiving time and where you spend one hundred dollars,
you're gonna get cupons for the next year, so you
can use those toward future purchases. It's a it's a

(41:51):
great place and Savory is a lot of fun to
just come hang out and poke around, get some ideas
and if you're looking for a new recipe options check
out the webs fight Savory spy shop dot com and
there's over I think over four thousand different recipes. You
can get a little overwhelmed, but if you kind of
you can search chicken and it will bring up lots
of recipes that have to do with chicken or you

(42:12):
know those get you some ideas, get you out of
the food ruds and try something new.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
I love it, Kamie. You've inspired me to come by
and stop buy and buy some more stuff. So I
appreciate you making time for us today.

Speaker 10 (42:24):
Absolutely all right, Katie, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
No, no problem. From the Savory Spy shop in Southlands.
That is there we go. We've got all of our
cinnamon questions answered. There you go, Savory spice. It makes
wonderful gifts. Yes it does, It absolutely does. Apparently everyone
who listens to the show loves Savory spice. Mandy, the
Internet is up in a house. Walmart is getting rid

(42:49):
of their price tags and switching to shelf pricing for clothing.
I gotta tell you this is like one of those
I feel like much ado about nothings?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Have you?

Speaker 4 (42:59):
This kerfuffle first started with grocery stores, and now King
Supers has all of my King Supers already has the
electronic price tag things on the shelves. I don't care.
I don't care. It doesn't make any difference to me.
But what I will tell you is that I have
gotten to the point now where if i'm buying something
on sale, I take a picture of the price tag

(43:19):
with a little on sale notice on it, because a
lot of stuff is not ringing up on sale, and
I've now become the person Anthony who stands in the
line and says, Nope, that was supposed to cost this much. Nope,
that was supposed to cost this much. That's so weird
you say that. I feel like we've been doing that
a lot recently, Like we're looking like that, that's not right.
I now take a picture of it. I just snap
a picture on my phone of any especially if it's

(43:40):
on like super sale. If I'm buying something that's normally
fifteen dollars and it's nine to ninety nine, you better
believe that I'm going to take a picture of that.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Because honestly intentional or not, don't you think like eighty
percent of people just don't notice go right through exactly,
and that's kind of what they're counting on, right I think.
So it's been happening quite a bit a lot of
different places.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Yep, So you gotta pay attention. Oh, by the way,
just fun fact, I just looked at Consumer Reports list
of cinnamons that have too much lead to be safe.
Guess who's on it a few times. Pensy Spice, the
spice company who doesn't care about your health and hates Republicans.
Remember that don't darken their doorsteps. Mandy, where do you
get the berry coco you mentioned? I see it on

(44:21):
Amazon and other websites. I used to get it on Amazon,
they do not carry. It's been out of stock the
last three times that I've tried to order it, So
now I just order it from this like restaurant superstore
or whatever. I found the cheapest price because it's like
forty nine dollars for two pounds. I'm not kidding. It's
so expensive, so expensive, worth every penny. Mandy. Pro tip

(44:42):
for all you cooks out there, save your old spice
jars and buy your spices that savory in the bags.
You'll save a bunch. That is exactly what I do.
So they say they're cheap grocery store, but they're not.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
They are not.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
May Or Mike extended these flock camera contract and there
was a big kerfuffle about it, huge kerfuffle about it.
The flock cameras are the cameras that read license plates
and they have been used by the Denver Police and
other law enforcement agencies to track down bad guys. I mean,
you guys, you've seen this on the cop shows. You watch,

(45:17):
it's like, let's see if we can find the license plate.
And then they you know, they look at all the
cameras and they find the license plate, they use it
to solve crimes. Now, I'd love to tell you that,
you know, there's incredible privacy concerns here. All that ship
sailed so long ago, and now you just have to
go through your life knowing that if you are in public,

(45:38):
everything that you are doing could be videotaped and used
against you. Honestly, that's how you have to go through life.
You really have to go through life. So I have
no beef with the flock cameras. They they've proven to
be very, very instrumental in solving car thefts that then
led to other crimes because of a ton of the

(45:59):
car thefts that happen here Colorado are to steal a
car to use for another crime, right, so they're solving crimes.
That's why we have this in the first place. But
the activist class is very very unhappy because they believe
that ICE can get access to this data so they
can use it to track down illegal immigrants. Now, I

(46:20):
got to tell you, guys, I don't care. I really don't.
I don't care. But those activists showed out in force
last night for a big, old fat meeting about this.
They thought they were going to shut it down, only
to find out that Mayor Mike Johnston, without the permission
of the city Council, extended the contract. He said, it's
not going to cost end for anything more, and he

(46:41):
negotiated the no cost five month contract as an opportunity
to evaluate unprecedented and strict new measures that ensure beyond
a shadow of doubt that license plate readers are used
transparently and within local and state law. What could he
be talking about. He's talking about Colorado's laws that prevent
law enforcement from being able to cooperate with ice, and

(47:03):
I want to talk about that as a part of
this story. We have a story on the blog today
where Governor Jared Polis is actually trying to figure out
a way to violate the spirit of that law in
order to in order to fulfill a subpoena that has

(47:23):
been issued against his office. The issue there is is
that I says, look we're trying to track down some
unaccompanied minors that are here illegally. They came across the
border illegally, they were unaccompanied, they were assigned with sponsors,
and we need to check and see where they are.
And Colorado's like, sorry about your luck. We're not giving
you that information because we think you're gonna use it

(47:45):
to deport the people that sponsored them. Now, the problem
with that is this, we now know that the Biden
administration simply did not investigate thousands and thousands of reports
of child sex trafficking that occurred within that community of
children that were brought over and then given to sponsors.

(48:07):
And we also know that the Trump administration has been
aggressively tracking these kids down, and Tom Homan has been
very open about the fact that they have literally rescued
children from sex trafficking operations. So here's what I'd like
to ask the Democrats and the Democratic lawmakers who have
passed these laws. So political points for you are more

(48:29):
important than making sure that children are not being sex
trafficked in Colorado, because that's what you're doing, That's what's
happening right now. My big question is why can't the
state of Colorado go look, Why can't we send child
protective services over there to check things out. If you
don't want to give the information to the federal government,

(48:49):
why not just use it yourself? Why not tell I say,
you know what, you give us those addresses, you give
us those names, We're going to find the addresses. We're
going to go find out where these people are, and
we're going to check on these kids, and we'll report back.
Why aren't they doing that? The way that the politics
have been injected into the system, the Democrats find themselves
in a very unfortunate position, and that is they are

(49:10):
proving themselves over and over and over again to be
on the side of the criminals. And I don't just
mean the people who've come to this country illegally, because
not everyone who came here illegally has come over here
to commit a ton of crimes. They've come over here
because life sucks in their home country and there's no
opportunity and there was no way for them to get
out of grinding poverty, and they came here and broke

(49:33):
into the country and have probably stolen someone's identity. But
ultimately they're not victimizing other people on a regular basis
but there are a lot of people who are We've
seen what happens when apartment complexes are taken over. We've
seen how things go right. We know that there are
bad people here. And this is what I don't understand,
And this is what the messaging I hope that Republicans

(49:57):
can get behind, and that is why are you protecting
the worst of the worst? And that's what they're doing.
Imagine if the state of Colorado said, you know what,
we don't mind if ICE gets the worst of the
worst out of Colorado, and in order to facilitate that,
we're gonna change the laws to say, you know what,
I you guys have warrants, you guys have deportation orders,

(50:18):
you guys have all of your t's crossed, your eyes
dotted to get these criminals out of here. We're gonna
help you with that. We're going to participate with you.
We're gonna tell our law enforcement to work with ICE
to get the people that we know are bad people
out of Colorado. Imagine, but that's not even being considered

(50:39):
because Orange Man bad and everything Orangeman wants to do
has to be stopped.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Right.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
That's what we're doing here, That's what passes for good policy.
So right now in Colorado there could be children who
are being victimized sexually by perverted adults, because we already
know that under Joe Biden, the Department of Own Lands
Andecurity just gave kids to whoever showed up and asked
for them. There was no vetting. We know that thousands

(51:07):
of kids have disappeared, and that now the Department of
Onland Security is trying to find out where they are.
I guess for political points, it's okay if those children
get victimized. I mean, is that the price we pay
now to score political points against Trump? For the person
who said identity theft is not victimless on the text line,
You're right. I don't want to downplay that, but I

(51:28):
do think there is a difference between people who come
here and generally keep their nose clean and those who
come here to victimize everyone. I do think there's a difference.
One should be treated differently than the other. Both should
be held accountable.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
We now know that we have more slaves in this
country now than ever thanks to Biden. Yeah, sex slaves.
That's awesome, Mandy. Why is Denver worried about the cameras.
After all, it's not a sanctuary city, correct, Texter. Just
ask them as they pass law after law after law
to make us a sanctuary city against state this dexter, Mandy.

(52:06):
The electronic price tags have been around for years. Coals
adopted them at least a decade ago, Lows Home Depot
and Minards have been using them on appliances for years
as well. Total non issue that the grocery stores are
catching up to other retailers. Technology, physical devices, and software
are now cost effective for grocery stores to implement exactly, Mandy.

(52:26):
Did you hear that Family Dollar is under investigation by
several states for bait and switch pricing. I gotta tell you, guys,
this is why I am og Dollar General until I
die DG for life.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
People are keep a.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Look down their noses at the Dollar General. And Dollar
General and Family Dollar are not dollar stores. They're like
little mini walmarts. You know what I mean, Mandy. Safeway
is the worst for sales not ringing up. I could
see a class action lawsuit. Safeway is the reason that
I started taking pictures of sale tags, because when I
got to the law and nothing that I bought on

(53:01):
sale rang up I was like no, no, no, no,
no no, and I made the kids stand there while
I went back and checked all the prices. I'm that
person now. I don't care, do not care anyway. Check
out Stephen Smith this morning saying the NBA betting scandal
is proof that Trump is coming after professional sports. What

(53:26):
you guys, what what do you even?

Speaker 5 (53:30):
That's just what?

Speaker 4 (53:31):
No, no, anyway. When we get back though, Rob Dawson
has been digging into the Chauncey Billups story. And someone
who knows Chauncey very very well is brother Jeff, local
activist who's been around for forever, good friend of of
you know, Chauncey Billips. We're gonna talk to him next

(53:53):
and here's some of the sound bites, not that surprising
in the grand scheme of things. News Director Rob Dawson.
By the way, Anthony says that you and I are
forced to go to the d n C and the
r n C next time time because we had so
much fun.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
Yes, such a big head, mister new news director, but
you still got to go with us in three years,
have a great time.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
It was a lot of work. May not as much
work for me next time. Maybe we could hear about that. Yeah,
exactly what are people around anyway? Now that we figured
out like how how you know how it all works,
We're good to go. We're in to talk about the
Chauncey Billups story because this story is huge and obviously
has local connections because Chauncey played here for so long

(54:37):
and is really a beloved part of the community. I mean,
his Chauncey Billups basketball camps are huge. I know many
kids that have gone through that program. And now he's
been arrested and charged with some significant crimes, and you've
been kind of reaching out to people who know him.
What have you found out?

Speaker 11 (54:54):
Well, yes, I'm always fascinated by Uh we see these
stories in sports from time to time about you know,
the player that does so much good off off recorded
what Chauncey Billips did, and you know, you hear the
pain in the community and it's not like they're not
aware of what's going on, but they also for people
who know him well, want to just wait for this

(55:15):
investigation to play out. One of them, as you just
heard from Kathy at the one thirty cast, is Jeff
fard Brother. Jeff, I think you've interviewed have you interviewed
him before.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
A long, long time ago. He has been on the show,
and I mean I think maybe years year years I
took it, I had contacted him.

Speaker 11 (55:29):
I was vaguely aware of their companionship, but they actually
are are very close.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Uh here was a brother, Jeff.

Speaker 11 (55:36):
I just talked with him about just his initial thoughts
as the news has been popping up about Chauncy Well.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
Chauncey Billis is a friend of mine. He's a friend
of our community. As a matter of fact, we are
both from park Hill. But Chauncey Billips is a Colorado
icon and hero. And so my statement as regards to
this investigation would be in line with whatever statement that

(56:04):
Chauncey Billups makes regarding this matter. And if he hasn't
made a statement, then my statement would certainly wait until
he makes a statement, and when he does make a statement,
my thoughts would being in ligne with whatever statement he makes.
I'm pretty sure that there are individuals that are charged
or investigated in many matters around a lot of issues,

(56:27):
and until they are proven guilty, they have a right
to be presented as innocent. And so that's the line
of thinking I have with Chauncey Billups. I'm wishing him
the best always, and I'm standing in Chauncey's corner along
with him.

Speaker 11 (56:46):
And you know, one of the other things that I
was listening to him as, because we had talked of
offline before I started recording him, is the close type
nit of park Hill, which for some long time and
people they may say, well, it maybe not be as
tight nit because the neighborhood has changed as it was
decades ago. But I was thinking while he was talking

(57:07):
about all of those community leaders who showed up at
Park Hlkov course right to debut that park and just
how if someone from that neighborhood becomes of Chauncey Billups's level.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
They are just so beloved.

Speaker 11 (57:20):
And you could hear the conflict where Jeff Fard is like,
I want everyone to know what a good person he is,
but I also know that we have an investigation.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
But it's perfect guilty. That was a full throated yea
statement of I am behind him and whatever he says,
I am going to go with. This is a horrible
position to be put in for anyone who is close
to Chauncey Billups. No, of course, for Chauncey Billups. It's
a horrible position. We're gonna have to wait until this
plays out and see what is actually happening. But I

(57:50):
know that it's it's a reflex when it's someone you
know and you you know to be a good person,
and unfortunately people make dumb decisions on occasion. And I
said this earlier, and this is wild speculation, so please
do not take this anywhere except from the wild speculation folder.
Seems to me, the only way that Chauncey Billups gets

(58:11):
involved in anything like this is either the mob offered
him so much money to do it that it was
something you couldn't turn down, or more likely, at some
point Chauncey Billips has gotten in deep to the wrong
person and in order to get out of it, he
finds himself in this position where he's the front man
for a rigged poker game.

Speaker 11 (58:32):
Because we have so many transplants here, I wanted to
I asked Jeff farrd about what is park Hill like?

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Well like talking about the tight nature?

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Please, how tight knit is park Kell? How tight nit is?

Speaker 10 (58:45):
It?

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Was people that you know that go back so many
years with Chauncey being in that.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Curve, You're going to see how tight knit park Hill
is because you're going to see park Hill unite. You're
going to see park Hill stand together. And if it stands,
if it comes down to park Hill standing against everyone,
we're going to stand together. And that's how tight park
Hill is. And so for those who don't understand the

(59:10):
closeness relationships that we have, the legacies and the excellence
that come from our community, you're about to see it.
It'll be on full display as we speak.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
I mean, that's as rock solid support as you can
possibly get. Although I mean, honestly, that's kind of grandiose
talk because this is not this isn't a political movement,
this isn't a criminal investigation. So park Hill can be there.
But unless they're all on the jury and are willing
to overlook any evidence, I mean, this is this is
a really tough situation, right.

Speaker 11 (59:42):
And then just the last, excuse me, the last response
I had with Jeff Farve.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
We talked about has he reached out to him? Will
will you reach out to him? Or will you wait
for him to come to you.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
There's no need for me to reach out for him,
because Chauncey already know that his whole community is standing
with him, and so as he hears this interview, or
if anyone else speaks to me about it, he'll know
that his community, park Hill, and and those who know
and care a lot about him are standing with him.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
I mean, like I said, thank you so much. I
really appreciate that. Turn your mic on there, Rob No,
I mean, I I think that's great. It's it's wonderful
that Chauncey Phillips has that kind of support. But we're
gonna have to wait and see all of this plays out.
You know, I hate to say it. It's always sad
when when a hero gets stinged, right when someone who

(01:00:39):
is who really is just woven into the fabric of
Denvery with the high school here's from Denver, played basketball here,
got to the Hall of Fame here, you know. I mean,
it's just it's it's always worse somehow when it's somebody
like that that has been accused of something.

Speaker 11 (01:00:53):
Yeah, so what thinks the tough is uh you know,
federal uh anything with federal oriented or the FBI.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
They usually have their ducks in a row. Yeah, right
when they go and do this. Generally speaking, they don't
just go off half cocked because they don't want to
not get a conviction. Yeah, this is not a politically
motivated prosecution. This is a criminal investigation that has swept
up and caught Chauncey Bill up. We're going to talk
to ABC News's crime and Terrorism analyst Brad Garrett at

(01:01:24):
two thirty find out if there's anything more of the
case that has become out that has come out. But
it just is sad, and at least he has the
support of his friends here in Denver, and of course
brother Jeff is absolutely right. Until he has proven guilty,
he has assumed innocent or we're going to go with that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
It's just it's kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Sad when you see a hero have a problem. And
I know he's been a hero to a lot of
kids here over the years. Yeah, for sure it was.

Speaker 11 (01:01:50):
And it's been all day long, different angles in the
newsroom trying to tackle and who knows him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Yeah, yeah, gosh, it's just really unfortunate.

Speaker 9 (01:01:58):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Rob Dawson, get back to work when we get back.
We've got a lot of stories that I want to
touch on. You're doing of the Day right, Yes, Rob Dawson,
back in for of the Day. I got a lot
of stories that I'm going to depend to one. If
you're an EXL customer, prepare to pay more. If you
are signed up for their peak pricing. They have now

(01:02:20):
shifted peak pricing from three to seven pm to five
to nine pm. What does that? What does that mean?
It means that if you use energy during that timeframe,
and I'm sure nobody is at home using energy between
five and nine, right, I mean right, I'm kidding. Of course,

(01:02:44):
that's when we use all of it. Listen to this
from nine News. This is this is really good. Blake Colonel,
customer support lead at Emporia, a Littleton based company that
helps electric customers track usage in real time, said, using
smaller appliances like an air fryer, you shouldn't have to
change your schedule. However, things you should avoid during peak

(01:03:07):
usage hours. You're probably not going to do any of
these air conditioning hating AV chargers, wash your dryers. Yeah,
try not to do that between five and nine. This
is going to be great. I'll tell you much. It's
going to cost you more if you do. Talking about
Excel changing the peak times for your energy usage. So

(01:03:29):
now between five and nine PM, when none of us
are home and doing things you're going to pay more?
How much more would you like to know? Well, the
rates from October first to May thirty first, on peak
meaning five to nine, about eighteen cents per kill a
wade hour. It's not a lot, but off peak it's

(01:03:50):
just six cents roughly per kill a wat hour. So
it's about three times as much. Between June first and
September third, it looks like this, about seven cents off peak,
about twenty one sense on peak. Your flat rate for
October first is eight cents per kill awat hour. I
don't understand if you're home in the evening why you

(01:04:11):
would not go the flat rate, because I'm sure it's
going to save you money over time. So yeah, if
you have you should probably look into this for all
of your energy companies because they're all doing it. Everybody's
doing it. I have a quick column by my friend
Joshua Sharf about why to vote no on all the

(01:04:31):
Denver ballot initiatives. They're not that many. It's not like
you have a fourteen page ballot initiative, but they're all
crappy ideas. And I'm talking about the Denver initiatives. Were
Referendum three ten that would make flavored tobacco products illegal
in Denver. What's interesting about this is that it's only
in Denver, so there's absolutely nothing to stop the kids

(01:04:52):
who are buying these vape cartridges online, through Snapchat, through
friends at school. There's nothing to prevent them from actually
getting them. You just won't be able to buy them
in Denver. And this is another example of trying to
make something illegal for kids, but just making it illegal
for adults instead. It's already illegal for kids and they're

(01:05:13):
already doing it, so that should make you question the
effectiveness of making this stuff illegal. I'm just saying. So
this is also going to kill convenience stores. And here's
the thing. Can we all agree that vaping is far
less annoying than actual cigarettes. I would much rather walk

(01:05:33):
through Kevin's watermelon flavored cloud of lies than I would
a cloud of cigarette smoke that gets in your nostrils
for like the next three hours. Ballot Issues two A
and two E are the vibrant Denver bonds that would
extend the correct property tax miilavy override otherwise due to sunset.

(01:05:55):
I gotta tell you, if you have watched the Denver
government under Mayor Mike Johnston, and you think these people
deserve more money, you are insane or you have no
sense of basic economics. We talked earlier in the show
about the disastrous purchase of the Denver Post building that
has already collapsed, and it has turned out to be

(01:06:16):
a horrible, horrible business deal. They spend way too much
money on questionable projects, and they now they say they
need more. No, take the money you already have, figure
out how to spend it better, and do not give
them any more money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Just don't you know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
I don't understand Denver's pensiant for continually raising their taxes
when the city has run so badly and frankly it is,
there's no other way that you can look at that.
By the way, I have my favorite story to come
out of the No King's rally. A woman in fair Hope,

(01:06:55):
where's this fair Hope, Alaska was charged with disorder we
conduct and resisting arrest. Yeah, what did she do?

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
You know, I don't know if you guys have noticed this,
but the protesters are now showing up in funny costumes
to soften their image as jerks who don't have any
good ideas, And apparently she had a costume that looks
like male Genitalia. Yep, Jeanie renee Gamble sixty one. Shocker
that someone that old would be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
At the No Kings.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
No, sorry, it's not a shocker at all. That's exactly
who was there. The costume was deemed ob seen in
a public setting, and the cops walked up and said, hey,
we'd love for you to take off this costume, and
she was like a nope, and they were like, you're
going to jail. Bought a big body boom. Yeah, Oh

(01:07:47):
it's fair. Hope Alabama not Alaska. That's even better. Somehow,
I love this. Protest organizers Individual Baldwin County sent this
statement on the women's arrest. The statement says Alabama's have
the right to protest peaceful and to expect their government,
including law enforcement, to respect those rights. The No King's

(01:08:09):
demonstrations in our state and across the country this past
weekend we're peaceful, exactly as they have been for buds. Now,
people should not be subject to violent over each by
police just because they exercise their free speech in ways
that are controversial or impolite speech, but only in the
ways the opponents of a message approof is not free
speech at all. Her violent arrest for expressing herself in

(01:08:30):
ways the police found rude is indefensible morally and legally.
Public officials must seriously take their duty to uphold the
First Amendment. Their complete failure to do so in this
situation runs against the free expression values that created the
city of Faarope, and against the liberty guarantees and shrined
in the Alabama law and the United States Constitution. Never
remember that these are the people that said if you

(01:08:52):
didn't get a vaccine, they wanted you to die.

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Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
In about half an hour, we are going to talk
to ABC News as Brad Garrett about the Chauncey Billups story.
And a couple of people have taken to the text
line to basically be like God, you goes silok, you
already think he's guilty. Absolutely not, And if you've listened
to the show, for any length of time. You'll know
that I probably won't talk about this story much until

(01:09:42):
it is adjudicated in some way, shape or form, because
unless you are, you know, in the know, there's no
way to know what the truth is. That being said,
I do have a story that's kind of interesting that
goes along with it. Two years ago, in twenty twenty three,
on a podcast, a professional gambler named Matthew Burkee talked

(01:10:06):
about the Chauncey Billups poker game. They've now his comments
have now resurfaced, but it was on the May twenty
twenty three episode of the Only Friends podcast. He described
the game, which he said may have started in twenty
nineteen in la that this particular game was all built
around Chauncey Billups. So this is two years ago, you guys,

(01:10:28):
well before any charges have been fought, Burkey said. The
person who told him about the game claimed it was
one hundred percent on the up and up, but Burkey
knew some of the people who were involved in the game,
he was a little skeptical. He decided not to take place.
He spoke to some friends who played in the game
multiple times. After hearing their stories, Burkey said the game

(01:10:49):
was for sure confirmed to be cheated. As Burkee explained,
people who did not understand how to play Texas hold
Him would go in with suboptimal hands and then get
the exact cards they needed. He said. Only the pros
were losing and the game they got absolutely fillayed. Burkey said,

(01:11:13):
despite losing, some pros wanted to return to the game
because the opposing players were so bad at poker. He
called out why that was a foolish idea. He said, yeah,
they know what's effing coming.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
You don't have to be good if you know the
decks start to finish, of course they look bad. They're
putting it on with no equity knowing they're gonna win
the effing hand. Pretty tough, you know, So this is
super interesting. Burkey and co host Conrad Simpson also discussed
why it's so hard for poker players to call it
out when they believe they're being cheated. Burkey said it's

(01:11:45):
always tough to call out someone high profile like Billips
because those people carry a lot of weight and hold
a lot of power. Simpson added that those engaging and
cheating are often prepared to deal with those accusations when
they come later. In the conversation, he said, poker players
really need to consider whether they want to quote go
down this rabbit hole if they feel like they're being
cheated during a game. It's a big accusation to make,

(01:12:07):
and poker players need to be fully prepared to deal
with the consequences of it. So again, this is two
years ago, so that's not good either. So just again,
we're going to talk to ABC's Brad Garrett and see
if there's anything new that has come out about that.

Speaker 10 (01:12:25):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
I've got a couple of stories that I want to
get into. One of them is one that you know,
it's kind of it's not even a blip in the
news for most people, but when I see this, I
get extremely concerned about the future of the United States
of America. The national debt has climbed one trillion dollars

(01:12:47):
since guests, Ay, Rod, take a guess, Just take a
wild guess. How long did it take the debt to
grow a trillion dollars? Buy a trillion dollars? Yeah, how
long did it take?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
How long?

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Thirty years? It's been since August of this year. I
one trillion dollars, one trillion dollars. We've added to the debt. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I wonder what the previous trillion took. Well I have
that answer. We spent four trillion. Well, now I'm going

(01:13:21):
to talk about the debt here. Okay, the US debt
had thirty four trillion dollars in debt of January of
twenty twenty four, thirty five trillion in July of twenty
twenty four, and thirty six trillion in November of twenty
twenty four before going up to where it is now,
which is thirty eight trillion dollars. Just to give you

(01:13:44):
an idea of why this matters, and it does matter,
big time, big, big, big time. We spent four trillion
dollars on interest over the last decade. We are going
to spend fourteen trillion dollars just on interest in the
next ten years. Where does all that money come from? Well,

(01:14:04):
I have another column from RedState dot com and I
just want to share some of this. My high school
senior class class of nineteen eighty nine history teacher asked
us what we thought was the single largest problem facing
the United States. We were to write down our answers
and anonymously submit them. Our teacher ran the numbers and
then ran down the list from most to least mentioned.

(01:14:27):
I said the government debt. I was the only one
who did so. The teacher rolled his eyes when he
read mine aloud, as if it were the dumbest of
all possible submissions. I said the debt not just because
I think the debt of any kind is bad. I
said it because everyone in DC was pretending that the
deficit spending adding to the debt wasn't a problem, and
because no one in the US was holding DC accountable

(01:14:48):
for this titanic idiocy. Forty years later, nothing has changed.
Nineteen eighty nine's budget deficit was one hundred and fifty
three billion dollars, the total debt two point eighty six
trillion dollars. Twenty twenty four's budget deficit was one point
eight trillion dollars, the total debt thirty five trillion OH

(01:15:10):
in interest payments on the US are now three percent
of GDP OH in the US faces two hundred and
ten trillion dollars in future unfunded liabilities. The US is broke,
and no one in the US seems to care. Meanwhile,
everything is getting more expensive, and they're eroding the dollar

(01:15:31):
to pay it. The idiots in DC haven't even passed
a budget since nineteen ninety six, which means they've spent
the last three decades spending via continuing resolution, which means
every year they're spending everything they're already spending plus five
percent here, eight percent here, nineteen percent over there. And
it means every temporary bump in spending becomes permanent. All

(01:15:56):
that COVID spending is still in the budget. Two thousand
and nine's one time eight hundred and thirty one billion
stimulus has never has been CRD into de facto permanence
because DC has never subsequently unbudgeted by passing an actual budget.
The same is true of the four point six trillion

(01:16:17):
dollars DC spent on COVID response, never unbudgeted. They're likely
tens of thousands of other one time expenditures since DC
lasts passed a budget. And now the US is broke
and no one in the US seems to care. But boy,
we better, we better because we can't sell our treasury bonds.
What happens if we have a treasury sale to finance

(01:16:40):
our debt and spending and no one buys them, Well,
i'll tell you what. The federal Reserve starts to buy
our debt. Do you know how the Federal Reserve pays
for it? They print more money. And if you think
that the inflation that we saw after the COVID stimmy
checks was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet. And this,
my friends, is how you bring down an empire. I

(01:17:02):
don't mean to be a negative Nelly, but I'm so
tired of watching this happen in slow motion and knowing
that it's going to negatively affect me and my family
as I near retirement and not quite sure what to
do about it. It's one of the reasons that I
am buying real estate and trying instead of trying to
invest in the market, because you know, aside from two
thousand and eight, real estate maintains its costs for the

(01:17:24):
most part. It's very, very stressful. The US dollar is
down in value eighty seven percent since we abandon the
gold standard in nineteen seventy one. And don't the other
part about this reserve currency. We'll talk about that next.
I have been talking about the US being broke, and guys,

(01:17:47):
I don't talk about this a lot, even though it
consumes me. I'm not exaggerating. I have kids, I have
grand kids. I have no idea what's going to be
left for them when the poop hits the fan on
our debt crisis. And it's not are we going to
have a debt crisis? It is when are we going
to have a debt crisis? Because none of these clowns

(01:18:07):
in DC other than Ran Paul and Thomas Massey give
a crap about the debt because they're all too economically
stupid to understand that when the United States hits the
debt crisis wall, they're taking the whole world down with them.
Let me tell you the rest of the story. Currently,
the US dollars Since nineteen forty four, the US dollar
has been the primary reserve currency used by other countries.

(01:18:30):
It facilitates international trade, it stabilizes economies. They buy our
debt because they know it's reliable and they're going to
get a return on their investment.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
But now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
The US dollar is a shell of its former self,
eighty seven percent down since we left the gold standard.
It only has value because we say it as value.
And now we're going to talk about the Bricks Group Bricks,
the Bricks Nations, which include Brazil, Russia, India, China, and
South Africa. They are working together to replace the dollar

(01:19:02):
as the world's reserve currency. And now last year Ethiopia, Egypt, Iran,
and the United States Emirates joined bricks and Saudi Arabia
has been invited to join. They're consolidating global power because
they want to dedollarize the economy. And what are we
doing to strengthen the dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Nothing, Although I will say, knowing this, knowing what I know,
I am not sad at all seeing people on social
media crying about not getting their benefits. Now, don't get
me wrong. I don't want people to starve. I never
want people to starve. That's why I support food banks, right,
why I donate food to food banks because I don't
want people to starve. But I've seen so many videos now,

(01:19:50):
and I've seen videos of people complaining about not getting
their benefits as they're sitting there with multiple piercings in
their faces, with nails. You know, my daughter sixteen, she's like, Mom,
I want to get my nails out. I was like,
absolutely not. It costs too much. The hair on these
women cost a fortune. And it's like, wait a minute,

(01:20:10):
why are you barking about not being able to feed
your kids when obviously you have many, many luxuries in life.
And now there's a movement on social media to declare
that if they don't get their their benefits, they're just
gonna en mass rob from Walmart and other big grocers.
They're just going to go in and take stuff. If
Congress was actually, you know, functional, they should pass the

(01:20:34):
law that if you get if you got caught stealing food,
then you lose all your benefits forever. What's interesting is
none of these people are talking about getting a job.
None of these people are talking about supporting themselves and
their family. The sense of entitlement on display makes me
want to cut the government even more. Not because I'm
trying to be malicious, but you realize that there's an

(01:20:56):
entire segment of society that is just the lead community.
They don't offer anything significant that I can see to society.
And I say that not because they're on Wick or Snap.
That's not why I'm saying that at all. I'm saying
it because they think taking to social media to demand

(01:21:18):
free stuff from someone else when they themselves are not
willing to go out and work for it tells me
everything I need to know about that group of people,
and I'm not in a mood to pay more taxes,
so these people cannot work or retire early like Bill
and Shelley yesterday. Bill and Shelley are upset because they

(01:21:39):
may have to pay the full freed on their health insurance,
so they might not be able to travel as much
in their early retirement. I don't care about Bill and Shelley.
I really don't. What I do care about is that.
And somebody said this to the text line. They said, Mandy,
let's see. Let's see, Mandy, these numbers are terrifying. My

(01:22:01):
wife and I are thinking of moving to Portugal. That
from Marty, and I said, oh, Marty, bad news. When
we go down, everybody's going down with us. It'll be
a worldwide depression. We are so much of the world's
economy that when we can't pay our bills anymore, Oh,
they're gonna fall like Domino's. Incredibly incredibly, you know, Manby,

(01:22:23):
wasn't Fort Knox designed to have enough gold to back
the dollar? Yeah, until Richard Nixon decided there wasn't enough
gold there for him. I mean, guys, all of this stuff,
if they looked at history, we would have seen it. Happen,
and now here we are because nobody wants to look
for history and everybody wants their stimmy check. Terrorism analyst
and the man on the Chauncey Billups case right now,

(01:22:46):
Brad Garrett. First of all, Brad, thanks for making time
for us this afternoon. You're welcome, obviously here in Denver.
This story is resonating and really hitting hard because Chauncey
Billups is such a beloved part of the day community.
For a I mean since high school. He has been
a standout basketball player here. Obviously, what is the latest

(01:23:08):
on this case against him. Let's let's start with Chauncy
Phillips and then we'll talk about Rosier as well. But
let's start with Johnson Phillips.

Speaker 6 (01:23:15):
And what you know?

Speaker 9 (01:23:16):
Okay, so you know, we don't know a whole lot,
just because the indictment just came out today. People were arrested. Obviously,
these are white collar type crimes, so I'm going to
I'm going to presume that everybody would get processed and
released on some version of the bond, so we'll start
with that. So I believe your coach is primarily involved.

(01:23:42):
These are my words out there, sort of ragged poker games,
so so in effect the ability to use his name
along with other well known current former players, current former coaches.

Speaker 6 (01:23:55):
So we were I.

Speaker 9 (01:23:57):
Assume big rollers to games and you in Miami, Las Vegas, Manhattan.
They've earned several places around the country to play poker
with these well known NBA folks. And the problem is
that the game was completely rigged. They used apparently and
these are common. You can buy these that automatically shut

(01:24:19):
shuffles the cards, but apparently you can manipulate them. Are
the ones they that you can manipulate, so you basically
know who had good hands and bad hands, and you know,
they maybe let the guy win here and there, but
by and large one of the people that's part of
the scam would consistently win. And we're talking about a

(01:24:40):
lot of games and several million dollars that was taken.
In the other component of this, and again I don't
have any details, is the indictment claims that organized crime
is involved in in I guess operating this to a
certain extent. So it's kind of, you know, beyond breaking
the law, and now you're even hooked up with our
nice crime. So it's really got not a pretty face well, I.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
Had a story that a listener actually sent me that
a couple of years ago. On a podcast. There was
a professional gambler that came out in twenty twenty three
and said, yeah, I got invited to play in the
Chauncey Phillips game, but it was rigged. And then he
talked to people afterward that played in it, and they
said it was clearly rigged, and that within the gambling community,

(01:25:26):
professional gamblers, professional poker players knew to be wary of
those games. So let's talk for a moment about Rosier.
He's in a different category. What's going on with that?

Speaker 9 (01:25:40):
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking A category?

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
Well, I mean it seems to be directly related to sports, gambling,
sports betting. I guess I.

Speaker 9 (01:25:47):
Should say, yeah, yeah, and the other components of these indictments.
And they don't lay out each individual. There's about thirty
plus people.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Chr.

Speaker 9 (01:25:58):
This is one scenario I just gave you. The second
segment involves basically providing inside information, like a player is hurt,
is not going to play tonight, but nobody knows that,
and so people bet accordingly on the game, or a
player fakes an injury to leave the game, to change

(01:26:18):
potentially the outcome, and then people change their best accordingly.
And apparently that's been going on for years. Again, the
number of at least in the basketball world, well known
people involved.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
So you have that.

Speaker 9 (01:26:35):
That's that's sort of the second half. I don't know
built this charge in Both of those are not.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
No, he's only charged in the poker game part of it.
That from what we understand, Yeah, leta. Has the NBA
made any kind of statement about this official statement as
there been a press conference? How are they handling this?

Speaker 9 (01:26:54):
I haven't heard Leoy the other I think I read
five minutes before I came on with you that Portland
had uh, you know, place develops on administrator believe of
some sorts. So in other words, he's out. I mean,
this is you couldn't let him keep coaching based on
which the legend of this indictment right right?

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
You know, Brad, this is one of those things I
wish I could say that I was surprised, but with
the explosive rise in sports betting and betting on everything,
I mean, you can bet on on the prop markets,
you can bet on pretty much anything. Do you think
we're going to see guardrails maybe come in a little
bit harder around some of this, or is this going

(01:27:38):
to be a league thing that the leagues are individually
going to have to deal with the policies that are
going to have to lay out the law for their players.

Speaker 9 (01:27:45):
Well, I think both, yeah, but I think it's pretty
I mean, obviously there's gazillions of dollars of online betting
that's just legitimate. Yeah, you know, it's not the best
thing for people to do, but that's a side issue,
but that it's legal. And then trying to monitor that,
you can imagine what that's like, trying to even remotely

(01:28:06):
monitor the number of sites you can go and bet
on this or that. So we'll see, but clearly, you know,
the legal have to do something about this. But you know,
beyond that, it's like, what are these people thinking. I mean,
you keep doing things like this, You're going to get caught. Yeah,
at some point, you know, and it's really short term

(01:28:27):
thinking and maybe a little bit of arrogance that you know,
nobody's going to really find it out. But you know,
based on the story you're talking about knowing gamblers that
we knew these games were a scam.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Yeah, and that was two years ago that he said that,
so certainly not connected to today's indictments.

Speaker 9 (01:28:46):
Well, who knows, Yeah, who knows if it's connected or not.
I mean they make a reference to Philips back to
playing these ra poker games back in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Yeah, and the thing that gets me and maybe not
gets me, that's the wrong way to say it. It
would seem to me that if you were running an
a legal poker game, you were relatively certain that you
weren't going to be ratted out by one of the players, right.
I mean, that's like talk about a safe way to
rip people off, because people are not going to run
to the cops to complain about a crooked poker game.
It's just not going to happen. So, I don't know,

(01:29:16):
it's a sad day for many many here in Denver.
Chauncey Billips has just been such an important part of
the fabric of this community for a long long time.
We have people from his neighborhood that have already come
out and said forcefully, we're with Chauncey. So we're gonna
have to wait and see how all this unwinds. What
is the timeline on this Brad, do you know what
happens next?

Speaker 9 (01:29:37):
Well, you know, there's a thing called the Speedy Trial Act. Yeah,
unless somebody waves it, you know, within ninety days, basically,
give or take, something's going to have to happen with
this case. Either he's going to look out a plead
agreement and plead the X and get why, or he's
going to go to trial. Right and you know, going
to trial mean that that obviously won't won't occur in

(01:29:58):
the next ninety days, but but the clock will be
running for the case to move along at a regular pace.

Speaker 6 (01:30:04):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:30:04):
The other problem is because the government shut down, basically
the federal course are out of money. So I don't
know how that will impact.

Speaker 10 (01:30:12):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:30:13):
The arrangements are one thing is they only take a
few minutes, but actual trials, a trial like this could
take a while.

Speaker 6 (01:30:19):
Yeah, so we'll see.

Speaker 9 (01:30:21):
But that's another frustration that we'ren't alone with.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
Brad Garrett with ABC. Thanks for your time today. I
appreciate the intel.

Speaker 9 (01:30:29):
Are you welcome to take care?

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
All right, have a great day, you know, obviously, and
as I said earlier in the show, I probably won't
talk about this again until some you know, further information
that significant comes out. I generally speaking, want to wait
until things work themselves through the legal process before I
weigh in, because again, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

(01:30:53):
I got bad news for the guys, and well, maybe
not all the guys. I know some of you guys
are not well. Some of you guys are handfuls enough
kind of guys. But I've got bad news if you're
one of the many, many, many, many many men who
likes an ample bosom because boobs are getting smaller and

(01:31:14):
boob jobs are shrinking. I wish I could have taken
a picture of a Rod's face as he realized what
I was talking about in this story boob jobs. I mean,
everything is fashion right, everything is fashionable. This is why
you don't ever do things like pluck all your eyebrows
out because they don't always grow back. This is why

(01:31:38):
you don't get those dry disc things in your ears,
because they don't grow back. And now we know that
plastic surgeons are seeing two things. Number one, women removing
big breast implants. Either for that's a full you can
do a full explant, which is removal and then you know,
being left with what's behind, or you can do a

(01:31:58):
smaller implant, but the fashions are that women are going
smaller and leaner. And I just want to ask our
listening audience right now, and you can text us at
five sixty six nine, ow are you sad to see
the giant fake boobs of the nineteen nineties and on
go the way of the Dodo bird. I'm just curious

(01:32:20):
because I know a lot of men who are like,
you know, it's a little, it's a little too much.
But then I know a lot of men who are
like I can't get enough, So they're going out of fashion.
We're going back to a leaner body. The pilates body
is what women think is wanted these days. And don't
get me wrong, a pilate's body can be a rocking,
rocking But in my experience in the ripe old age

(01:32:43):
at fifty six, like men like curves. They may they
may look at the super skinny women and talk about
how heart they are, but reality is they like curves,
this texture. No say it ain't so it's true, it is,
that's true. Do you know how many women that I
personally know they have decided to have breast implants and

(01:33:06):
they got talked into getting bigger breast implants because of
their partner at the time. Dude, you like you know what,
if you're gonna go to a bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Beat, just go to a sea.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
You're gonna do a seat, just go to a day.
Mandy Twiggy returns, Oh God, no, I hope not a
lot of you are saying. Look. I like natural, no
hate the huge ones. Firm and small is better. Sidney
Sweeney might change the perception, but Sidney Sweeneys are real.

(01:33:36):
From what I know, I believe they're They're God given. Mandy.
I'll take small, natural breastover implants all day, every day.
I just think it's interesting. You guys are fairly women
of the twenty and thirties all day, every day, forty
five year old male. There was no boobs in the
twenties and thirties, Mandy. Large fake ones are on natural

(01:33:59):
and disgust. Give me the natural all day long. Natural
is better, even if they're small, Mandy. A breast reduction
is the biggest oxymoron phase I've ever heard. No, you
know sometimes I also know a lot of women who've
had them reduced. Although for some reason we all use
the phrase knocked down I'm gonna have knocked down a peg.

(01:34:20):
I'll be honest. I've looked into it, cause mine god
given as. They are kind of a pain in the
butt after I had my daughter. Wow, that's too much information.
I'm not gonna give you that information. Never mind. Anyway,
a lot of you are saying good riddance to giant melons.
That's an actual text message, any more than a handful
of waste. Yep, there you go, Mandy. I like big boobs.

(01:34:44):
I cannot lie for me, Mandy. I just prefer small,
real breas. Let them be real. That's the way they
were meant to be. Mandy. I'm definitely a blank man.
Give me a bubble butt over big boobs any day.
We need more cushion for the push in. But no fatties,
perky is great. Men are such simple creatures. I love
all of you for that very reason. One thing, there's

(01:35:06):
a couple of things that I want to make a
statement on because I don't want to talk about them.
Number one, guys, I don't give a ratsass. If Bad
Bunny is the halftime show, I don't care. It was
a business decision made by the NFL because Bad Bunny
is one of the biggest selling artists in the world
at a time when they're trying to gain more traction

(01:35:28):
in Latin and South America. And if I may, can
we shut up about bad Bunny at halftime after this?

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
If I may, for someone that's been exposed to a
lot of Bad Bunny, give me my wife's family. He's
extremely entertaining. It will be a fun halftime show. Just
trust me on that. Just it's some good music too,
It really is.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
I have seen so many idiots on social media complaining
about the fact that bad Bunny is an American. He's
freaking from Puerto Rico. You've dumbass is let's stop that conversation.
It's stupid conversation number two, which is stupid. I don't
give a rats ass that Trump is building a ballroom
with private money on the White House. I don't care.

(01:36:13):
You know why because right now, when we have massive
state dinners, they have to erect tents outside on the
lawn in order to have a massive state dinner. So
now we're gonna have a ballroom that can actually host
massive state dinners in a more secure way that doesn't
look like, hey, welcome to our plastic house. How about that.
I don't care. I'm not paying for it. A Rod's

(01:36:36):
not paying for it. None of you are paying for it.
And newsflash, Trump doesn't get to take it with him
when he leaves. It's attached to the White House. So
for decades upon decades, people will be able to use
this ballroom for state events, which is how it should be.
I saw a study, excuse me, a story on CNN

(01:36:57):
where they were slobbering all over the chain just to
the White House made by Obama that were paid for
by taxpayers. So can we just stop? It's a stupid
story that we don't need to talk about. It's already underway.
You can't stop it. And don't even tell me that
any of you can remember what they tore down even
look like before they tore it down. You have no

(01:37:19):
idea what that part of the building, what was inside?
We don't know, No one knows, who knows, We don't know.
Good Gravy, many Mandy. I've never heard of Bad Money
until the NFL announced it, I'd heard of him. But
for me, this is exactly the same as last year
when they were like, Kendrick Lamar is going to be
the halftime show. I was like, I don't know anything
about Kendrick Lamar, but I'm not the demo. They're going

(01:37:41):
after another incredible halftime show.

Speaker 5 (01:37:44):
And I was saying yesterday also an awesome press conference
put on by Apple last year that was so cool
to be at.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
Yeah, well so cool. I'm just throwing These are two
stories I don't care about. I don't want you to
text me about because I'm not going to talk about
him because there's stupid and I don't care. So can
we all just decide? No more conversation about the stupid
freaking ballroom, No more conversation about the stupid bad Bunny
halftime show. I don't care any Do you think it's

(01:38:14):
clear I don't care about these stories? I think you
kind of care. I don't care. I think you kind
of I don't care a little. Rob Dawson, do I care?
You don't care? Rob Dowson was the newsman. He's straight
with the fact. Robbie guys right through her. She's spitting
facts right now. She does not care. I not care.
You care little two percent? That's what we're talking about
right now. Ah, you care enough to shut it down?

(01:38:34):
That's yeah, we'll talk about him. Twenty more times before
of February's fine mm hm Mandy with regard to boobs,
I'll take Cranberry's and Blind Melons over Smashing Tompkins any day. Yes,
that was from singled out on MTV in the late
nineteen nineties. And with that, I love it, I love
it anyway. One hundred bucks says he comes out in drag.

(01:38:56):
Why has he ever performed in drag before? It's not
like we hired Eddie Izzard to do the halftime show.
That was a very subtle joke. I just threw in there.
You gotta have a little knowledge about Eddie Iszer to
get how good that job. Just that joke was so good,
just letting you know. But now it's time for the
most exciting segment on the radio. It's gine in the

(01:39:18):
words of the day, Anthony. It is a little, but
it's it's I think it's appropriate for the Halloween months
that we're in. Yeah, it's a little spooky play along.
I'm not sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Yeah, get.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
A right, all right? What are we doing?

Speaker 9 (01:39:37):
Do you want?

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
People are still texting me about the ballroom. I don't
care about Yeah, it's an ongoing gag. Now they will
let me try again I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
Go ahead, text her so you can just continue until February.
Tweet her text about Bunny and no problem. Let's do
it every single day. Let's do it TheRoom, all right,
there we go. One way to find out if you're
old is to fall down in front of a group
of people. If they laugh, you're young. If they oh wow,
that's not a joke, that's factual.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Uh this Uh, what is our word of to day?

Speaker 5 (01:40:10):
Please?

Speaker 11 (01:40:10):
Verb?

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
Verb prepeitate, prepatate, crepitate? Oh, crepeitate That means to uh,
that means to make something bad, like to wear it down.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
No, rob to push something, No, to make a crackling sound,
to crown, to crepetate.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
Okay there, I don't know the answer to this. You
invented coca cola if we lived in Atlanta. We know this,
Doctor John Stith Pemberton, the only say it in the
proper ways from Atlanta. Doctor John Stith Pempton. He's a
pharmacist from Atlanta, Georgia. He invented the syrup in coca
colaon in eighteen eighty six. It was mixed with carbonated

(01:40:49):
water and sold in a local pharmacy for five cents
of glass ante cocaine. Well, I mean the good stuff
has the cocaine in it. No, not this weak sauce
they have now. Anyway, when they said it was addictive,
they weren't kidding anyway. Rob Dawson in for his chance
to win at Jeopardy, what's our category? I was going

(01:41:10):
to say that is MLB team names defined define. Let's
find a nod.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
To Catholic missionaries. Once brought Robs Padgers at his correct
in eighteen ninety they stole a player from Philadelphia's team
and got this nickname.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
Which is really interesting. I believed, I don't know. And
then they answer, are the pirates? Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
For a viper with a rattle at the end of
its tail? Prob Rob, Well, it's time of acts. Correct,
Rob's killing it because I don't know any of these.

Speaker 5 (01:41:51):
Are named after a law enforcement agency that dates back
to the eighteen twenties.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
Rob, Rob, what arrangers? That is?

Speaker 9 (01:41:59):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Very good Rob?

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
For those that excuse me, for those who had to
get out of the way at New York City Trolley's
back in the day, Rob Rob, correct.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
With this.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14):
I'm glad I didn't make that comment. Now, glad I
kept them I didn't get any swept. I didn't know
any of them. Man Like, not only did I not
get them, I didn't even guess them because I.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
Didn't know them at all. In a game of five scores,
Rob Gentleman swept four zero.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
He didn't want to make me look so bad on
my own show, you know, he totally wants to make
everybody else look bad on my own show. Coming up tomorrow,
we have a couple of good guests coming up, and
I'd like you to stick around for that. I will
be talking to Eric Kaufman. He do we have Aeron
Kafman for tomorrow? Is he confirmed?

Speaker 6 (01:42:52):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
I know that went back and forth. This was like
the hardest booking ever. Okay, we may have him, so
I'll skip that for right now. But we do have
da Michael Allen. You know, earlier in the week we
talked of a common sense about crime rates skyrocketing and
closure rates on crimes and things like that, and Michael
sent me a Texas and Mandy, we're not even talking
about the qualified immunity part of it. When cops were

(01:43:14):
stripped of qualified immunity and are now liable for like
tons and tons of money, it has had a really
really negative impact on our crime fighting. We're going to
talk to him tomorrow and so much more of a
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