10-25-24 FULL SHOW - Some Spooky Talk for a Friday with Paranormal Investigators

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome buncle, Welcome to a Friday edition all together now woo,
that's right. I am your host for the next three hours.
Mandy Connell joined today by Michael Coover. We just call
him Coover. You can call him whatever you want, just
don't call him late for dinner. You ever heard that coop?
Anybody ever said.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
That to you?

Speaker 6 (00:47):
I have not heard that before.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Oh that's one of my dad's classics. Call me butch,
but don't call me late for dinner a dad anyway,
but he never well anyway, my dad's real name was Frank,
but his older friends called him butch. Depend I can
always tell how long somebody had known him by what
they called him when they saw him. So anyway, I

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didn't mean to go on a sidewinder already, And the
show's just begun, So let's talk about the blog for
a moment, shall we. You can find it at mandy'sblog
dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline
in the latest post section, this says ten to twenty
five twenty four blog some spooky talk for Friday with
paranormal investigators. Click on that and here are the headlines

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you will find within. I think with someone's in.

Speaker 7 (01:31):
Office half of American all the ships and clipments and say,
let's going to press plats.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Today on the blog, it's an ask me anything kind
of day. My voter guide is out. It's spooky season.
Another Republican in a tough race, JD did a town
hall with Chris CROOMO trendy Aragua made Denver it's new home.
The owner of the apartments in questions skipped a court date.
Four stolen ballots made it through signature verification. Who needs

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the government when rednext are available? Mike Pence's chief of
staff takes out Kelly and his lies us incompetence Steiny's
Israel replace Zionists with blacks, and then let's discuss no elephants. Well,
arn't aren't people? Nothing good happens after midnight? Dgif everybody.
This made me laugh entirely too hard. Justin Trudeau is

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a total racist. Uh oh. A new and troubling family
trend what it's like to travel around in space five
minutes on Focus you can go where the wild things are.
Ophelia's is opening back up this weekend. We won't have
infinite monkey theorem to sip around anymore. One more thing
on Mark Kelly's lies, the latest social smarts with Agnes

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trying to choose a cruise for your family, and now
dumb dog things. Those are the headlines on the blog
at mandy'sblog dot com. And you can always tell when
a rod is off because I struggle with finding dumb
videos because my algorithm literally shows me no dumb videos
my entire When you go to YouTube, do you ever

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go to YouTube? Coop ever spend any time on YouTube?
Are you a you YouTuber? Okay, so, uh when I
logged onto YouTube, I have a mix of news program stuff,
uh self help and self improvement stuff. And then I
have a whole bunch right now of these music videos

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that are like four hours long that are using the
five hundred and twenty eight Hurtz tone that is supposed
to help with meditation. So that's like people are gonna think, Wow,
she's really smart. Look at her. She really wants to
be a better person. You know, So what's on your algorithm?
What do you see when when you pop up YouTube?

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Uh, it'll say show like movies.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, none of the no sports, na, none of it,
none of it. It's like we have two different applications.
There couver two totally different, completely highly personal applications. Because
they gather data on us wherever we are, they know
what we're doing, and they're using it to sell us stuff.
You know, if you did near your interview with Agnes

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who has a new web series for kids and tweens
called I just forgot it even though it's on today's blog,
let me go find Agnes really quickly. It is called
Social Smarts with Agnes, And I was watching one of
the ones she did about how much data they're gathering
up on you? And think about this, like, think of

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all in all the James Bond movies that you've watched,
what do they do with that top secret information? Like
someone's getting blackmailed? So when does that start or has
it already? Because what I mean what is to prevent?
And I know nothing about how tech companies are layered
or secured or siloed. So please, if I'm completely wrong

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on this, you can let me know, but what is
to prevent some rogue operator who has access to your
traffic through the ISP or whatever. There's multitudes of ways
depending on what browser you use. There you're being tracked.
And what if some rogue you know, employee of one
of these platforms just starts, Oh yeah, I know what
kind of porn you watch. But you're also on your

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They also see your Facebook page where you're presenting yourself
as this upstanding, wonderful you know, part of the community,
and you're watching horrible porn or something. When does that
kind of blackmail start? I'm being genuine They gather up
everything you do. Everything you do on the internet, unless
you have a VPN is is consumed by someone else
to market and try to sell something to you. So

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we've we've this is such an interesting dynamic and as
a guide in the world capitalist I should be fully
embracing this, right, I mean, this is but it's not
fair capitalism. I don't get to see the avatar that
they have of me. I don't get to see what
it is they have on me. I can't I mean
maybe I can.

Speaker 8 (05:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Oh that they have way more information about me than
I have about them. And they use neurologically, scientifically proven
methods to suck us in and keep us there. These
these little these all these dumb games. This is what
I've been telling my daughter from the beginning of time.
I'm not a big do you play games on your phones?

Speaker 9 (06:21):
Ever?

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Coove?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
But not so much anymore.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
The only time I play games is when I'm flying
on an airplane and I'll play Candy Crush because then
I don't get any of the commercials because I'm on
airplane mode, right, so I'm basically playing offline. But I
would always show the cue. I would always show her, like, look,
when you reach a level and they have this big
celebration for you on the phone. It's to set off
the dopamine in your brain to make you like it

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and make you want to stay and do it more.
And even as a small child, after I explain what
dopamine was, which was a little challenging because she was
like seven, she totally gets it now and now when
I and she'll come to me sometimes ago, I don't
know what I clicked on, but my algorithm is really weird.
Like she knows that they manipulate what you see. That
to me feels extremely dangerous going forward in a world

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that is becoming more interconnected in a way informationally that
too many people have too much access to too much information.
It needs to be more siloed. Now, when I am
on the radio and I do a commercial and I
talk about running Crete Dental, I'm being very honest about
the fact that what I'm doing is sitting here and

(07:32):
asking you to go to my dentist that I love. Right,
that is an open capitalist exchange. You can decide not
to go. You can decide to go or not, but
at least you know what I'm doing. I'm trying to
get you to utilize the services of my dentists. But
too many people don't understand that the stuff they're seeing
directly on their timeline is designed to sell them something

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at some point, and it's very specific in getting more specific.
So I've been thinking about a lot of this for
the last couple of days because of Agnes's web series.
I've got one of her videos, the Truth Detectives how
to Spot a Lie Online. I'm telling you, I'm a
gen xer. I'm gonna watch every single one of these.
They're made for tweens, but oh my god, I don't

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stop learning. People don't stop learning. Never stop learning. I
mean stop learning about done stuff like Snapchat. I don't
want to learn how to how to use that. I
don't really care. You should have your ballot by now.
If you don't have your ballot by now, you need
to call your clerk's office and find out why you don't.
And I say this because we have confirmation that there

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are twelve ballots in Mason County that were stolen from
houses that were in a similar geographic location and returned.
Nine of them, actually no, eight of them were caught
in the signature verification process. They were flagged. The voters
were called and said, no, those weren't our ballots. I

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never got my ballot. One of them got through, And
later a voter called and said I never got my ballot,
and ballot tracks just said I turned it in, but
that vote was going to be counted because there's no
way to retrieve that ballot. And three made it through
the process and were counted and cannot be rescinded because

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it's a secret ballot. We don't have no way of
knowing which three ballots in the big piles of ballots
those ballots were but we have a case of voter
fraud in Mesa County. It's very suspected in all the
same area. And you know, when I talked about this,
like somebody should go gather up all the ballots and
apartment complexes and return them, I was clear in saying
it would be a crime, and that's why I wasn't

(09:40):
doing it. But I don't know if this is somebody
trying to prove a point or somebody truly trying to
be shady. But nonetheless, something's going on in Mesa County. Mandy.
When you start seeing a new person, I described that
feeling as gouphoria. That's a combination of goofy and euphoria,

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and none of your decisions can be trusted for the
next two or three weeks. Correct. Oh, by the way,
you guys, we are very close to the window of
no new dating. Did you ever, Michael, when you were
in the dating scene before you got happily married? Were
you ever the guy who went out see I had
a firm rule between Halloween and New Year's no new dates.

(10:25):
No new dates, because there's all kinds of pressure. You
go it with someone a couple of times and here
comes Christmas, and you're like, what do I do?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Do I?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I don't know, So you're coming up to the no
new dates window. But guforia is a very good word, Mandy.
I want to know what kind of corn you watch?
What corn?

Speaker 10 (10:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Porn?

Speaker 10 (10:45):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (10:46):
It is?

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Asked me anything Friday. But that is not a question
that I'm going to delve into. Mandy. What scientific method
do you use to keep us sucked into your show?

Speaker 11 (10:56):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
My gosh, I wish I was not organized. I think
if I actually use some of these powers for evil,
my audience would be way bigger. In all seriousness, I
do want to answer that because when I first started
doing talk radio in two thousand and five, when I
got my own show, it was very common in this

(11:17):
industry to say, Okay, in this hour, we're going to
talk about this. Maybe we have a guest on it,
maybe we don't. We we're going to talk about this
for an hour. But as attention spans have gotten much shorter,
we have really tried to not match those attention spans
because we're not broadcasting for Goldfish, but we tried to
adapt to shorter attention spans. So that's why I cover

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a topic for one segment, or cover two topics in
one segment, or you know. But if it's something that
I really feel passionate about and have a lot to
say about it, I'll go a little longer and hopefully
I'm interesting enough for you to keep listening to. But dang,
now I'm thinking there probably are algorithms I could employ here,
things I could do to suck you people in for
a lot longer. Mandy, you should look into the four

(12:03):
hundred and thirty two hurts versus four forty hertz theory
and talk about it on your show. Okay, this is
one of those things you guys that I don't talk
about on my show because you guys are gonna think
I've gone all woo woo on you, and I haven't
gone woo woo at all.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Now.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I am very level headed and rational, but I do
have wo woo tendencies. Okay, So I live in this
space where I'm very guided by my rational side of
my brain. I've been told by some I'm a bit
vulcan in that way, but at the same time, I'm
so interested in things that cannot be proven.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I think it's obvious that I have not an obsession,
but a healthy interest in the afterlife and near death
experiences and all of that stuff. But I also find
things about the physical world that we don't understand, and
one of them is these tones at a certain hurt

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level and the effect that they have on you physically
and mentally. And I've just started dipping my toe into
this stuff because at first and everything I go into,
I go into it skeptical, right, I'm like, okay, because
we're going to go to YouTube and you'll find these videos. Say,
I went in for five hundred and twenty eight hertz
for meditation because I read about it in a books

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that I'm reading it about meditation, and then I stumbled
upon this whole window of stuff that it's like, Okay,
you want to feel calm, play this, you want to
feel energized, play this, you want to feel this, play this,
I mean, And I was like, okay, okay, boomer right.
I was just but then I was feeling a little
stressed and I was aware of it. So I was like,
I'm gonna try one of these to turn this tone

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on for stress, and by gosh, my golly, it seemed
to work. So I don't know, I'm dipping my toe in.
But it is a little woo woo because I don't
necessarily understand the physics of it, and I do think
there's physics behind it. Mandy, did your dad ever use
this one? When you ask? It's a question that seemed obvious,
like how do you want a beer when you go

(14:03):
to a bar? My dad's response was does a cat
have climbing gear? That's not bad. We always stuck with
a classic does a bear poop in the woods kind
of thing? You know what I mean? And now that
I live in the woods and a bear pooped in
my yard, I can tell you they do indeed poop
in the woods. Oh, thank you, Texter, Mandy. John Kelly's

(14:23):
lives not Mark Kelly. Thank you. I'll fix that. I
will fix that. Mandy. You can use a VPN. Your
browser still tracks you. That's heartening, Mandy. It's dangerous for
old people like gen Z and above, but us younger
folk have understood this for a long time. I don't
know what that is about. That was a long time ago, Mandy.

(14:46):
I got to notice saying that my mailbox has been
illegally accessed, and I have not received two ballots at
this point, I would absolutely reach out to your clerk
of course, or even better, go vote now. If you
go vote in person at one of the early voting sites,
they will check your right well, maybe not check your ID.

Speaker 10 (15:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I guess yes, they'll check your ID. But then if
another vote comes in, it will be made a provisional vote,
and they will reach out to you and let you
know that someone else is trying to vote.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Who were the ballots supporting? They did not say. They
did not say. Text her, Mandy, I'm very curious on
who they voted for in the fraudulent voting. They did
not say who they voted for. Mandy. You must have
been hanging out with my pillow guy. We aren't allowed
to question the election.

Speaker 12 (15:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I did sit next to him, and I'm never going
to forget it, because the man needs some dental work
done and his breath it honts me. It honts me
to this day. Oh, this is turning into a really
good Ask me anything, Mandy, which judges should we retain
or kick out? I voted to kick out all of

(15:52):
the Supreme Court justices and all of the district judges,
but I did keep my Oh no, wait, it is
the Supreme Court. And then there's another group of Is
that the district you, guys, I can't remember. There's three
levels of judges. I kept the one closest in my

(16:13):
absolute area, right. I voted to throw everybody else. If
you don't, If you vote to keep the risk of
the judges, you must vote no. On retaining the US
or the Colorado Supreme Court justices that are up for retention,
you must vote no. They have made some of the
most embarrassing and stunningly bad decisions here in Colorado that

(16:34):
have been overturned at the US Supreme Court. And just
we have such a leftward bent to the Colorados Supreme Court.
They it would not even affirm tabor. They're allowing the
legislature to use taxes and fees to take away our
money that should never have happened.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Never.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
They're awful. Mandy. How did Ross's beasting cake come out?
Can you share the recipe? Okay, you guys? So Ross
brought me some honey because Ross has bees, and I said, oh,
I just saw this recipe for this beasting cake. That
looks great. I'll make you a besting cake, you guys.
I did not read the recipe before I committed to this.
This cake is like a project. It's like an all

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day adventure. I have to make pastry cream. I've never
made pastry cream, so I have no idea how this
is going to come out. I told Ross, I said,
if it really I'm gonna do it on Sunday. If
it really bombs, I'll just send you a picture and goes,
oh no, no, no, you got to bring it in.
So I will definitely. I will definitely let you know
on Monday how that's going, because we should see we

(17:39):
shall see Mandy. Besides KOA, what station just updated? What
stations around the country would you like to have on
your show? Or have you aspired to have your show on?

Speaker 10 (17:51):
You know? I I.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Here's the thing. I used to really want to be
sending cake when I was younger, But when you're syndicated,
you have to talk about national issues, and I really
like getting into local issues. So I mean, if I
was gonna, I don't want to go anywhere else. I
mean I don't want to live anywhere else, and I
don't want to syndicate my show because I like talking

(18:18):
about Colorado. I like talking about local issues, So you know,
I don't want to say I'm good. There are things
I'd like to do differently, like if I owned my
own show, if I move my show to the web.
There are things that I would add that probably I
wouldn't do here, just because this is a different demographic.
Favorite kind of steak and doneeness that would be a

(18:39):
reb medium rare, give me the fat. That's good for you.
By the way, Mandy, how did you cure your fibromyalgia?
That is a really good question, and I'm going to
come back to it because I want to answer this question,
and I only have like forty five seconds left, so
I'll do it on the other side of the break.
By the way, I got some guests coming on today.
I apologize if you are a candidate for state office

(19:00):
who reached out to me and said I'd love to
come on and do an interview, and I said, I'm sorry,
I'm not doing any state level you know, any local races.
I apologize. I've made a terrible error. I realized this.
If we don't get some more Republicans in the House,
in the Senate, we're doomed in Colorado. So today we're
going to talk to a man named Michael Demana. He's

(19:21):
running in a really, really really blue district. Well, we're
gonna see if we can pull him over the finish line.
We also have our paranormal gals from Double X Paranormal Communications, Mackenzie, Julia,
and Christine back to talk a little spooky season ghost stuff.
But when we get back, dexterally answer that question in
just a minute about fibermalgia. I realized yesterday, and I

(19:43):
would like to say, I'm sorry been very cranky. That's
late because I hate this election so much and I'm
taking it out on some of you, and I apologize that.
Being said, we only have like another few days we
can all get through it together. But today I thought
we'd do something completely different, So we're gonna talk spooky

(20:04):
stuff later. We've got a candidate for state House. It's
just going to be a fund more funner day. This
texture asked Mandy, how did you cure your fibromialogia? Let
me talk about this for just a couple of minutes.
Number one, about five years ago, was before COVID. I
started having horrible, horrible, horrible crippling pain in my back,

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in my hip. It was I missed work from it.
A couple of days I had to call in sick
because I couldn't get out of bed. It was horrific,
absolutely horrific. And thus began my visit to I feel
like every specialist in the history of specialists. I went
from doctor structural doctor. First, I saw hip doctor, orthopedis
everything's fine, back doctor. He actually said, we don't see

(20:48):
spines that healthy. And in the meantime, I am in
crippling pain. And I'm not really a baby about pain.
I mean, I'm pretty good about pain, but it was
crippling pain, the worst pain I'd ever had in my
entire life. And so finally one doctor says, you may
have rheumatoried arthritis that runs in my family. I go, great,
Finally I was excited that that could be it. I

(21:09):
was like, yeah, I mean, I'm not wanting rheumatoid arthritis
because I know what it's about. But so I go
to a rheumatologist and he does all these tests, more tests.
At this point, I've had like gallons of blood taken
out and have X rays of every part of my body,
and nobody can tell me why I'm in crippling pain.
And I go and he says, well, the good news
is your inflammation markers are very low. You don't have
rheumatoid arthritis. And at this point I am crying in

(21:33):
the doctor's office because there's no answer to what is
going on. And he says, but I think you have fibromyalgia,
to which I responded, that's not a real disease because
I just thought it was whiners. I'm just I look
back now and I'm probably was like judge some people harshly,
because I really was just like, suck it up, Buttercup,

(21:55):
you know, this is come to find out. And that doctor,
who was very very nice, gave me diagnosis, but didn't
really give me any help. Didn't really he gave me
some information, it was just really outdated and old and
didn't seem to be helpful at all. So I did
what I did I do, and I went on the
internet and I started looking at medical studies around the world,
and I found a guy in Mexico City who had

(22:16):
been studying fibromiologia specifically for thirty five years. And after
thirty five years of all these different hypotheses of what
causes this and all these different issues, he had come
to the conclusion that fibromiologia is a stress related illness,
and as a stress related illness, there's nothing to treat
except the underlying stress.

Speaker 13 (22:35):
And this was me.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I was like, well, I'm not stressed. And then I
had to come to terms with the fact that, for
a lot of reasons that have to do with my
personality type, my childhood, I was one of those people
that was never going to let you see me sweat.
I think if you asked people in my past, have
you ever seen Mandy freak out about anything. There's been

(22:56):
one time where I freaked out, and that was when
my dad had a stroke. I freaked out. Luckily I
was at home, so I could freak out at home.
I don't freak out. I don't panic. It's like when
things start to get crazy, I drop into a lower
gear and then I'm just like, nope, we can work
this out. It's the vulcan side of me, or at
least I thought. Then I started going, well, wait a minute,
what if I'm actually just not allowing myself to admit

(23:20):
that I am having stress, I am not recognizing that stress.
What if all of these things, What if I'm not
handling stress at all, and by not handling at all.
I've made myself physically ill. Now that was something to
wrap my head around, because there's a big part of
me that's like that is not a real disease. But guys,
I am not exaggerating when I tell you that. The

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next day when I woke up and said, Okay, if
this is a stress related illness, I'm willing to try
anything else. If they had told me I needed to
go on fifty medications, I would have absolutely done it
if it made the pain go away. So I said,
I'm just gonna figure out how to do this. I
doubt this is again how I rolled. I downloaded podcasts

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on how to manage your stress. I listened to other people,
I read books. I read books on stress related illnesses,
which I did not realize were as common as they are,
very very common stress related illnesses. And I started when
I started to feel stressed. Instead of blowing it off,
and Chuck probably got sick of this, I would walk

(24:22):
into my husband and I would say here's what I'm
stressed about, and I would list off whatever I was
stressed about. But for me, just saying whatever it was
was a big part of stress management. Just recognizing that
I had stress and within a week all the pain
went away. And then I started thinking, well, maybe this
is the placebo effect, right, maybe I've just convinced myself.
But then I thought, if I can convince myself not

(24:43):
to have pain, perhaps my body convinced itself to have pain.
And just so you guys know, and part of my
medical study reading on fibromyalgia, they have done multiple studies
where they actually are doing a functional MRI on people's
brains while are actually having a fibromyalgia attack, and their

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brains are lighting up in the same exact way that
someone experiencing horrible physical pain from an injury does. So
it's not your brain is really creating that response in
your brain and it manifests itself in a variety of ways.
And stress related illnesses are one hundred percent of thing.

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And now I tend to go to it first when
people say I've got this. Whenever anybody says the doctors
can't figure out what's wrong, then I'm like, have you
considered that it might be a stress related illness? Because
I am now beyond a true believer in this. I
absolutely feel it when I am in the middle of

(25:46):
something or if I'm having a challenge that I'm working
through in any way, shape or form. If I don't
catch it, I start the pain. The pain starts to
come back between my shoulder blades and then it moves
down into my spine and hip. Telling you guys, it
is like being in a car accident. That's the only
way I can describe it, and not knowing why was

(26:07):
making me absolutely insane. I mean, good gravy, absolutely nuts.
So that's the story. I mean, it's for me. It's
been a stress related illness. I've now shared this with
other people who suffer with fibromyalgia, and some of them
have had great success in figuring out how to manage

(26:27):
their stress. And everybody manages their stress differently. You just
have to find a healthy way to manage your stress
and not rely on ignoring it or self medicating or
any of those other things that we normally do for
managing stress. So here's how I manage stress really quickly,
and then I will never talk about this again. I

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have to exercise every day. I must get some form
of exercise every day. Yesterday I didn't get to work
out in the morning. I went home yesterday afternoon and
Rake leaves because I'm telling you Rake and leaves that
that counts. That counts. And then I have to make
sure I get as good asleep as I can get.
And when something causes me stress, I say, this is
really causing me stress, which for me is enough. So

(27:10):
there you go. That is how I cured my fiberumyalgia.
And I realized there's a lot of people out there
that spent a long time not being believed for this.
And I hope just by having this conversation, if this
happens to someone you know, at least you will go
maybe this isn't a figment of their imagination because I
live through it and I'm here to tell you it

(27:32):
is no joke. I mean no joke. All right, We're
going to take a very quick time out. I have
a bunch, bunch bunch of questions on the text line
that I can whip through, and I have a couple
of you who have really good suggestions for the show.
So we'll do all of that when we get back
right after this Talk Sports Afternoon. Mandy, I'm so confused

(27:57):
on prop one twenty seven. Can you give me your
take on this? Is that is the Mountain Lion ban
hunting ban in Colorado. I'm a know on this. Mountain
lion hunting is very tightly regulated by Colorado Parks and Wildlife,
and they use it to manage the mountain lion population.
And if we let the mountain lion population go unchecked,

(28:21):
a few things would happen. The cats would eventually run
out of room to rome they need territory that they have,
and then that would create conflict with other cats and
other animals, and it would also create conflict with humans.
I love the fact that we coexist in Colorado with
so much wildlife. I really do that. Being said, I

(28:46):
think we do a pretty dang good job of it
already at Colorado Parks and Wildlife, with the biologists that
work there to manage wildlife. And I just think this
is an unnecessary move by animal rights activists who hate
any kind of hunting. And so the hunters that you
go out there that are given tags to have the
opportunity to get a mountain lion, they are doing the

(29:08):
work of Colorado Parks and Wildlife to help manage the
lion population. So I hope that helps vote no on
one twenty seven. If you're asking my opinion, Mandy, what
is the website for Regen Revolution That is R E
G E N R e V dot com. Nothing to ask,
but it was funny you introduced for your producer as

(29:28):
Michael Kay. You said, call him Michael and then proceeded
to call him coover every time. See I do that though.
I tell you to call a Rod Anthony, but then
I call him Arod. I'd just like to keep you
on your back feet. People like to keep it on
your back feet.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Does insurance cover treatments at Regen Rev? I swear to god,
these are two different people some of them. Yes, you
have to work with them to find out what your
insurance covers. Mandy. I once worked with a pastry chef
who told me pastry cream is nothing more than vanilla
pudding using half the liquid. That is good to know.
I endeavor to make this beasting cake that I committed
to that. I'm a little bit a little bit nervous

(30:06):
about for Ross because I'm not sure it can pull
it off. Mandy. Do you think Hillary Clinton would kill
Trump if she could get away with it? That from Kenny? Hmm,
I'm gonna have to come back to you, Kenny. I
need to think about that, like, are you talking about
like she knows there's a zero percent chance she's ever

(30:28):
gonna get caught. You know, maybe I don't know. There
have been people in my life that, for periods of
time I would have had if I'd had a free
shot in the middle of the night, no one was
gonna know. I would have run over him in my car. Thankfully,
I've let that kind of anger go. Uh, Mandy, let

(30:51):
me just see here, hang on one second. How do
you feel about North Korea and troops in Russia. We
haven't really talked about that, but you got it's the
fact that they are now shipping in soldiers from North
Korea that should indicate how poorly things are going for Russia.
Don't you think you're not shipping in soldiers if everything
is coming up roses in your little war that you started.

(31:14):
I think that is a very, very bad And if
I'm in Ukraine, I am stoked about this because I mean,
come on, Mandy. Years ago, I heard a guy about Royal,
a guy named Royal Rife. He had a frequency generator
that supposedly cured several diseases. The AMA went after him,

(31:37):
so he moved to Mexico, think there are people who
are still proponents, but because of the government, they can't
say it cures anything. I have had family members that
got cancer and sought out alternate, alternate treatments, these like
woo woo treatments, and are dead. So I am very
reluctant when someone says, oh, this thing will cure all

(32:01):
this stuff. I am very reluctant because if you're wrong,
you're dead. Mandy. What supplements do you take? Oh, look,
a decent handful. I take a step to prove they're
all a lot of them are combinations. But I take
a multiviem and I take vitamin DK five thousand units

(32:22):
of that a day, all kinds of I'll have to
look it up, text or send me an email, and
I'll send you all of them. I think they make
me feel better.

Speaker 10 (32:29):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
I think you just diagnosed my wife. She's your doppelganger.
I hope so. And he's talking about the stress related illnesses.
I hope so. I hope that story can help somebody
else get relief, because that is that is a miserable,
miserable way to go, Mandy, don't rake leaves. Use a lawnmower,
preferably a gas lawnmower. Okay, but I already used all

(32:51):
the gas in my mower, so it's already empty. It's
already been winter rized, and raking leaves is a pretty
decent workout. And the weather yesterday, Come on, you guys,
the weather right now? Come on? And who doesn't want
to be outside? Mandy? If I can make it through
today without somebody asking me who is they'll it'll be

(33:12):
a good day. Who is they? People?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
What?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Mandy? I'm tired of the election coverage too, but it's necessary.
But maybe after it's over, book TV and movie reviews
would be fun. Plus all the food and wine talk. Yes, yes,
yes yes. If she killed Trump, no reasonable prosecutor would
take the case. That is very, very very funny, and
I'm gonna let that be the last word of this hour.

(33:41):
Have asked me anything? When we get back, Michael Demana
is running for the House in a very blue district
district too, or we're gonna talk to him and maybe
you can help get him over the finish light. We'll
do that next.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
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Speaker 2 (33:57):
No, it's Mandy Connelly.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Connem Gotty and the Noisy Three, Bendy Connell, Keith sad
Bab Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
The second hour of the show. I'm your host, Mandy Connell,
Michael couver in for Anthony Rodriguez, and now we're going
to talk to a guy much like my friend Valdemar
who is running in the first congressional district, who picked
up the mantle to run in a district that isn't
very favorable for Republicans, but Michael Demana did it anyway.
He's running for the second district House seat. And welcome

(34:42):
to the show. Michael.

Speaker 10 (34:43):
Good afternoon, Mandy, thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well, I'm glad you're here. I'm glad that there are
Republicans trying to, you know, make some gains in these
really blue districts. So I want to ask you, Michael.
I bet a lot of my listeners have never heard
of you. Tell people a little bit about I'd be
happy to.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
And I'm also sure that's true. They probably haven't heard
of my opponent either, because not too many people in
this district even know who that is. But in any event,
tell you a little bit about me and my background.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Little bit.

Speaker 10 (35:14):
I am a fourth generation Denver, so I've lived here
in my entire life. I was born in Saint Joseph's Hospital,
educated in Catholic schools, high school, grade school, went to
University of Colorado with Boulder from my undergraduate work, and
graduated from the University of Denver Law School, where i've been.
I have practice law in this city for a little
over fifty two years. My partner and I were the

(35:37):
form the first minority owned law firm in Denver, so
we're very proud of that. And we owned a nineteenth
century building on Seventeenth and the High Street where we
did our practice for over forty years together. So that's
a little bit about me and a little bit about
my background.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
So you're obviously accomplished. Why do you want to put
your faith in the wood chipper of politics? What made
you jump into the second House district race?

Speaker 10 (36:04):
Well, a couple of things. One, I'm not a politician.
I'm just like everybody else that lives in the House
district too, and lives in Denver, And candidly, I just
got sick and tired of what was happening to my
beautiful city and my wonderful state and I just said
I've had enough, and a lot of people that I
know have had enough, and so what are we going.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
To do about it?

Speaker 10 (36:26):
Well, somebody needs to stand up and say something about it,
and I decided that that was going to be me.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
So let's talk about your vision for the second House district.
What do you think are the number one concerns and
how do you want the legislature to address them?

Speaker 10 (36:42):
Well, the number one concern in my view is crime.
What's happened to our city and our state with regard
to crime has just been unacceptable anymore. We've given the
Democrats and liberals their opportunity with you know, no cast bail,
with lowering penalties on sentinel and doing a whole number

(37:05):
of other things, including welcoming immigrants into this city and state,
and we've seen what's happened. In January, our governor said
that he wanted to make Colorado the tenth safe oft
state in the nation because at this point we are
the number third most unsafe state in the nation for

(37:28):
felony crime. So why the governor is going to need
five years to do it, I guess it's because he's
only going to be around for four and then We'll
deal with the rest of it after he leaves. But
in event, let me tell you very briefly what the
legislator did for the first of those five years. Nothing. Yeah,
absolutely nothing.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Well, Michael, I actually I would argue the opposite. I
think that the legislature did a lot. They decriminalized ventanyl,
they made car theft a misdemeanor. They did a lot
to contribute to our current crime situation here in Colorado.
So I'm not going to let you off that let
them off that easily. You were being kind. I don't
have to be kind because I'm not running for anything.

Speaker 10 (38:09):
Thank you, Thank you, Maddy. I meant that they did
nothing for the citizens, right, they did everything for the criminals. Yes,
I've been in the courtroom over thirty years practicing criminal
defense law. Every time that I met someone accuse of
a crime, they had two questions, One what's the fee?
But number two, how much time am I going to do?

(38:29):
How I'm going to attack this issue is not let
the Democrats get continued to get away from lowering penalties.
In fact, my view is and one of the first
pills I will offer is that if you are convicted
of a crime, involving a firearm, you will not only
do the underlying sentence for the crime, you'll do an
additional five for the firearm. Now, that's an additional five years,

(38:54):
not without without parole, without good time, without earned time,
without all the other crap that they they put onto
these things to let these guys out earlier. It will
be five years, and I believe that that will significantly.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Decrease crime play.

Speaker 10 (39:10):
The other thing is we've got to start backing our
police officers. We just simply have to start doing that,
and we are not doing that, as you can see.
In fact, in Denver we have something on the ballot
this year that we're going to allow non citizens to
become members of the Denver Police Department and Fire Department.
Why because we can't get police officers to do it.

(39:31):
Why can't we get people to want to be police
officers because we don't back them. We just simply do
not back them. In fact, they can be personally liable
for twenty five thousand dollars of damages if they are sued. Now,
you tell me who wants to do a job like that,
And what's in our legislator's response. They've left it to
the people, because we have Proposition one twenty eight, which

(39:53):
I hope people will vote for, which requires violent criminals
to do wait for it, eighty five percent of their sentence,
and if they're convicted of free violent crimes, they have
to do one hundred percent of their sentence. Now you
mean to tell me that the Colorado Legislature cannot agree
on this kind of an issue and needs to send

(40:13):
it to the people to make the decision. That's what
I'm talking about about favoring criminals and not protecting the
citizens of this state and the city.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
I agree wholehearted. Ley, let's talk about affordability that those
two things. I think there's three things happening right now.
People are concerned about crime because no matter how many
talking heads on Twitter tell us that crime has dropped dramatically,
the reality is I was talking to a friend of
mine and she said, yeah, my son's friends truck was
stolen from the airport. I said, no, no, no, there

(40:44):
they fixed that, you know they've got that, And she
said no, this was like three weeks ago. So it's
they can tell us that crime has fallen off a map,
but the reality is people are still having their cars stolen.
We are really really high up in the number of
sexual assaults that we're reporting. It is not good. How
do you in the legislature go to address that we
just talked about. But now let's talk about affordability, which

(41:05):
is the second issue that people I think are really
concerned about in Colorado.

Speaker 10 (41:10):
Well, we have your listeners probably know this. This last
fiscal year, our budget was forty billion dollars forty billion
next year, next fiscal year, it's projected to go up
to forty three billion, maybe if not higher. We can't
print money and we can't borrow it, so that money

(41:30):
has to come from the people of this state, and
that comes through We can't do taxes because they have
to ask our permission, which is why we have a
ballot amendment on our ballot this year wanting to increase
the sales tax on firearms and ammunition. But they do
it through fees, fees, because our Supreme Court has decided
that a fee is not a taxed Yeah, well, so

(41:53):
I'm concerned. It comes right out of my pocket, whether
you call it a fee or a tax, and that
needs to stop. We need to take a look at
all of these seas that we impose upon our citizens,
which are not legal because they have not been voted on,
and we need to start eliminating.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Some of them.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
How about the bag fee? They know where that money goes? No, No,
of course not.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Do you know what's funny? Do you know what's funny
about the bag fee and the and the entire premise
behind getting rid of plastic bags in Colorado because you
then go and and the bags end up and a
whale swims through the bag, and then that all comes
from Colorado. That's the thinking there. But do you know
where you can still buy plastic bags? The coastal state
of California, where they could actually end up in the ocean.

(42:40):
You can still buy plastic bags there, but not in Colorado.
It makes zero sense exactly.

Speaker 10 (42:46):
And that, of course, is what we're coming. We're becoming.
We're becoming a California and that and I just don't
want that to happen, and I want to try to
stop it. And the way to stop it is for
me to get elected. Because if we keep electing the
same people expecting that they're going to do something different,
what we're going to get is the same people and

(43:06):
exactly the same results.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Michael Demana is running in House just for Q for
the Colorado State House. Michael, make your pitch. Why should
people vote for you?

Speaker 10 (43:15):
People should vote for me for one reason and one
reason only. If you like the way things are right now,
if you don't have any problem with's happening to your
city and your state right now, if there's a guy
in office that you can vote for. But if you
want something to change, you want somebody to go into
that legislature and try to change things for your betterment,

(43:37):
then you go to Demana for HD two dot com.
You look at my website. Help me with a few
dollars if you can, and I would really appreciate your prayers.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Michael, I just got this text message before you go, Mandy.
I'm a lawyer who had Mike Demana mediate several cases
over the years. My experience was he is extremely smart, measured,
reasonable and rational. Didn't know he was running, so thank you.
Thank you for having him on. He's got my vote.
That's one Mic, you get.

Speaker 10 (44:04):
One my weekend many All right.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Michael Demanda, thanks for your time and good luck in
this race.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
That is.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
One local. Well, I call those local races even though
they're for the state House. And if you are running
and send me an email earlier at some point earlier
the saying hey, love to be on the show, and
I was like, well, we're not going to do those interviews.
Send me another email and we'll go from there. If
you need help with your ballot, don't forget to go
to mandy'sblog dot com because my voter guide is out.

(44:33):
I realize that I am at odds with many of
you on two issues, ranked choice voting and the veterinary thing.
The veterinary thing would allow a new class a veterinary
technician above a vet tech with a higher level of education.
The veterinary organizations across the border against this, I'm not,

(44:54):
I'm not. I have to trust that the right kind
of bones would be put on the frame, our meat
would be put on the bones. In the licensing of
those people and things, a lot of issues can be
resolved with licensing requirements, you know. So we'll see what happens.
We will see what happens now. We got a lot
of stuff on the blog today. Last night jd Vance

(45:18):
did a town hall with Chris Bomo from News Nation,
and after the Kamala Harris town hall, I was like,
you know what, I'm going to go ahead and I
am going to watch some of the JD vans and
just do a slight compare and contrast. And I had

(45:38):
all these big aspirations to play like a Kamala answer
and then play a Dvance answer, But none of that
came to fruition because it just would not have been
a fair fight. It just wouldn't just would not have
been a fair fight on any level. Because jd Vance
is in the process of this. No matter what happens

(46:01):
if he and Trump lose, jd Vance is setting the
standard from this point forward of how to be a
politician and not like the old school politicians where you know,
where they're kind of glad handing and I don't know,
I think he's really really done a very very good job,

(46:25):
very good job in establishing how to talk about the
positions that you hold, why you feel the way they.

Speaker 10 (46:32):
Do, and.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Specifically he's really good at it.

Speaker 10 (46:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
George W. Bush, who I honestly I still love George W. Bush,
I really, really truly do. I loved him when he
was in office, Like I just think he's a really
nice man. And I realized that he did some things
that a lot of people don't like I could have
lived without the war in I rock myself. But that
being said, I still love the guy. And George B.
Bush was going to be accused of being a strong

(47:03):
orator right, not at all. And he's better than people
think he is. And I can tell you that because
I had a chance to see him speak after he
left office, and when someone asked him, why do you
always come across kind of like an idiot? He was like, well,
let me tell you. When your president, everything matters, right,
Everything you say means something to someone, and it makes

(47:24):
you really really cautious about what you say and how
you say it, which is a great point. But all
of that being said, Jadie Vance is just done a
really really good job on the trail. He's given a
lot of Republicans a lot of hope that they didn't
necessarily have before. So it's going to be very interesting
to see how all of this plays out. Because if

(47:47):
anyone tells you they know who's gonna win, they're lying.
They're lying because there's no way that people can know
what is going to happen in this race. Right now,
it's too close, it's entirely too close. Now Coover let
me get my audio on my computer for a second.

(48:08):
Just through my computer for a second. I want to
play this from last night's town Man.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
You're gonna want to sit down for this one. Not
unlike Beetlejuice. If you invoke the former president's names too
many times in a row, he's gonna want to weigh
in on what is being said about. Now we have
a call right now from former President Donald John Trump.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
He wants to weigh in. Was a little bit of
a delay. Can you hear us?

Speaker 7 (48:35):
And what is your question for the senator?

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Well, I can hear you, Chris, and I do have
a question, and I think it'll be quite an interesting one.

Speaker 14 (48:44):
The answer should be easy.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
How grilliant is Donald J. Trump?

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Now, you guys, I know that there are people who
hate Trump, will be like, of course that's what he said,
of course, And I of course was like, of course
that's what he said. But that's freaking hilarious. I mean,
it's just funny just to call in, well while your
vice presidential candidate is on TV, to ask how brilliant
you are? But listen to what Listen how jd Vance

(49:12):
handled that incredibly egotistical question. It was completely on brand
for Donald Trump. Listen, listen how we responded, take your time.

Speaker 11 (49:28):
Well, first of all, sir, this is supposed to be
undecided voters. I would hope that I have your vote
of all people. But I here here's first of all, sir.
Of course, you're very.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Brilliant, and we both agree.

Speaker 11 (49:40):
We both agree that it's important to have very smart
people running our government. But here's here's the thing about
President Trumpet. Aside of you, sir, if you'll forgive me
for telling this story that I think often people don't see.
And of course I go out my beautiful wife here in.

Speaker 10 (49:56):
The front row.

Speaker 11 (49:57):
And one of my favorite moments with President Trump is
we were hosting an event for him at near our
home in Cincinnati a few months ago. And of course,
you know, my wife was a little bit nervous to really,
you know, talk to the president of the United States,
and he asked her, what do you think about.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Your husband being in public service?

Speaker 11 (50:15):
And she gives, if you know, my wife, a very
diplomatic answer. You know, sir, he really cares about the
people of Ohio. He's thrilled to be able to serve them,
and I'm happy to support him. However I can and
President Trump chuckles and goes, yeah, my wife fates it too.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
So here you've got Donald Trump being Donald Trump with
the hilarious, how brilliant I am, and then Jade Vance
takes a moment there to humanize him. It was just
a really great exchange.

Speaker 8 (50:39):
I have to tell you.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
I used to tell my friends years ago then my
always my liberal friends that were like, I'd really like
to do a radio show at some point. Well, now
they can all do a podcast, but none of them do.
And I'd always say, if you want to learn how
to do a radio show, Rush Limbaugh gives free lessons
three hours a day, even if you disagree with what
he says. Listen to how he does the sh show right.

(51:01):
Listen to how he unfolds the topic. Listen to when
he injects humor. Listen to how he injects humor. Listen to,
you know, the way he interacts with Snurtly but while
not interacting with Snurly. Like, that's three hours of free
lessons right there. And I feel like what we're seeing
in the closing weeks of this campaign are free lessons
on how to be a good vice presidential candidate and

(51:22):
how to find someone who compliments you in exactly the
ways that you need to be complimented personality wise. There
is no one better for Donald Trump than JD. Vance,
and I mean that as a compliment. So it's just
been really really interesting to watch the whole thing, to
watch the way this the big momentum has shifted. Remember

(51:43):
after the convention, Well, god, let's got the momentum. We'll
just keep this momentum going right up until the election.
But the momentum hit reality when they let her start
talking and things have not gone very well. Now when
we get back, I have a couple of things on
a couple more leftover questions from Ask Me Anything, and

(52:05):
I will jump into those. And then at the bottom
of the hour, We've got a bunch of news stories
that are on the blog, but honestly, I don't really
want to talk about them. I have a few follow
ups that we got to talk about because the allegations
that Trump said he loved Hitler, those are all just
falling apart so fast. We also have to talk about

(52:28):
professors claiming that they are losing their academic freedom because
they're getting fired for posting hateful stuff on social media.
And it occurred to me today that if you just
replaced black people in their tweets and their text messages
with replace Zionists with black people, nobody would question why

(52:51):
they were being fired. We're going to talk about all
that and more now before we go to break. There's
a as a matter of fact, it had already happened,
so we're just waiting for some kind of ruling.

Speaker 10 (53:01):
Now.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
There's an organization that sued, well, I don't know who
they sued. I think they sued the Cheyenne Mountains Zoo
on behalf of five elephants that live at the Chyenne
Mountain Zoo. They maintain that the elephants are unlawfully confined

(53:22):
at the zoo and they want them recognized as having
the same rights as people. This is from an organization
called the Non Human Rights Project, and this is what
they've done around the country. They did it in Brooklyn,
or excuse me, the Bronx Zoo. And what they're doing
is they're just tweaking their approach and they're going to

(53:43):
keep filing those lawsuits and keep filing these lawsuits, and
keep filing these lawsuits until they find a court stupid
enough to assert that elephants have the same rights as
human beings. And if you want to know why I
voted not to retain the Colorado Supreme Court justices that
are on this ballot, is because I genuinely don't know

(54:05):
if the Colorado Supreme Court is the court that's stupid
enough to give human rights to elephants. It could happen,
wouldn't surprise me. And I certainly don't think this is
going to be a unanimous decision asserting that elephants are
not people. But I guess we're just gonna have to
wait and see how they rule. We will be back

(54:27):
right after this. I was talking to my brother the
other day and he's got a son who's a little
bit older than my daughter, and they're starting to look
at colleges and universities, and I said, hey, uh, not
for nothing. Make sure you check the freedom of speech
rankings before you send your kids somewhere, because academia is
in an absolute disaster right now. Academia and the media

(54:50):
are basically running hand in hand off the same cliff
because when it comes to the media, trust in media
is an all time low, and yet they keep doubling
down on the same garbage. Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic,
makes up and fabricates stuff given to him by General Kelly,
former chief of Staff, and doesn't ask any intellectually curious

(55:12):
questions about it at all, And then all of the
other news media outlet's pick it up. Trump says he
admires Hitler, and in the details, according to so and so,
they just keep doubling down and doing the same thing.
Academia is the same. They're doing the exact same thing.
Parents don't want to send their kid to an expensive
college to have them come home after a year and

(55:34):
tell their parents that everything they believe think can do
is wrong. They want them to go and learn how
to think critically, learn how to gather information, because really,
college is just about learning how to ask the right
people to find out the right information. But universities have
cracked down. Listen to this. This is from the New
York Times. I'm sorry, I just got distracted before I

(55:58):
started to read by the name of the reporter who
did this. And I'm gonna try this name, but I
swear to you this, I'm not making this up. Anemona,
Anemona hard to call us, Anemena hard to call us?
Doesn't that sound like something you'd find in a title pool.
You know what I mean? Doesn't that sound like a
kind of fish or something?

Speaker 10 (56:19):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Oh, that's a enemena hot caolis. But I digress. Here's
the article from the New York Times. Mara Finkelstein, an
anthropology professor at Muhlenberg College in Pennsylvania, was an avid
poster on social media. She called a fundraiser for the
Israeli war effort students raising money for genocide, and she

(56:40):
frequently ended her posts with the words free Palestine. After complaints,
federal civil rights investigators in the college began looking into
her online postings and classroom discussions about the war in Gaza.
But it was her sharing of an Instagram post by
a Palestinian American poet Remy had that got her fired.

(57:01):
Doctor Finkelstein says, do not cower to Zionists. The post said,
don't normalize Zionist taking up space. A student complained that
the post made her feel unsafe as a Zionist and
a Jew. She said she wouldn't feel comfortable in my classes,
doctor Finkelstein said in an interview. As protests unfolded at
scores of college campuses, faculty members also face consequences for

(57:25):
supporting the students in their protest, or for expressing views
that were construed as anti Semitic or less commonly for
pro Israel activism. Now, I want to go back to
the point. She posted something that said, do not cower
to Zionist, don't normalize Zionist taking up space. Now what

(57:47):
if this professor had had posted do not cower to
black people, don't normalize black people taking up space? Would
there be any concern about her getting fired? Of course not,
because that kind of open bigotry is no longer tolerated
in polite society, especially in academia. That would never stand.

(58:10):
So why in the world would anti semitism be any different.
Why in the world would there be a problem there. Now,
there are other professors that have been fired, and honestly,
I think that there should be a line between political

(58:31):
activism and academic freedom in this respect, if you're teaching
a class on world events or you know, world governments
or world conflict or anything that could reasonably take you
to the direction of talking about that war, and then
in that conversation you gave your opinion that for me

(58:53):
is one thing. But if your class is something completely different.
If you're teaching a math class and you decide to
go off on the Zionist in math class, all you're
doing is proselytizing your political views, and I don't think
that falls under religious freedom. I really don't. So yeah,

(59:13):
there's a whole story about a professor at Columbia who,
when asked by a least Stephonic, she singled out Mohammad Abdu,
a visiting professor. She quoted from one of his face
posts on Facebook under a different spelling of his name,
supporting Hamas, Hesblah and Islamic jihad. Four days after the

(59:33):
October seventh Hamas attack on Israel, a least Stephonic asked
the chair or the head of Columbia what will be
the consequences in this case, and doctor Schaefik said he
will never work at Columbia again. His contract was not renewed.
He was simply a visiting professor. Now he's suing doctor
Shafik in the university for defamation and loss of academic freedom.

(59:56):
He said he'd been quoted in completely, noting that his
full post that he supported Hamas and its allies up
to a point. Given ultimate differences over our ethical political commitments.
That's like saying, you know what, I support Hitler, but
only to a point. I mean, isn't that what people
are accusing Donald Trump of saying? This is just absolutely absurd.

(01:00:24):
By the way, doctor Shafik resigned over the summer after
losing the support of many members of the faculty who
criticized her in a no confidence vote for ignoring quote
our statutes and our norms of academic freedom and shared governance.
So now doctor Abdu is suing Columbia, and this is

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unfortunately what's going to have to happen. Students now have
the ability, though to record their professors in class, and
I hope that students continue to report professors in class
that are saying these absolutely absurd things. Mandy, did you
see the ten twenty three conversation at DU with Kyle
Clark and DU journalism faculty called media and democracy. What

(01:01:08):
happens when we can't agree on the facts? They never
covered when facts are omitted that according to a texture.
I did not see that. Did not see that at all, Mandy.
I just heard in the news Stephan Tubbs is a
spokesman for the DEA. Very good on him. I always
liked that guy on the radio. I am also a
huge Stephan Tubbs fan. And yes he is a spokesperson

(01:01:31):
for he's the basically the public information officer for the
DEA in the whole region around here. So yes, he
is doing well and still the exact same stuff and
he's always been, which is the Sorry about that, Sorry
about that little fire, little auto start there. I'd love
to know what you guys think, because I know that

(01:01:53):
a lot of you have kids in college. I know
that a lot of you send your kids to college,
and like I said, they come back after year one
and they know everything and you're an idiot and they
know nothing when we get back, I want to talk
about what can happen in these cases. You know, we've
often talked about how it seems like there are many

(01:02:13):
on the left who are very invested in inserting themselves
or government between parents and children. And this is now
becoming a thing that is becoming a problem as young
people are cutting their parents out of their lives. We're
going to talk about that next Kowa on FF at

(01:02:33):
ninety four to one. The negative downsides of what happens
when people get in the middle of a family problem
actually that's not a fair way to describe what I'm
talking about. We've talked about this before, and it's always
so depressing to me when we talk about it, because
I get emails from people who say, my kids have

(01:02:54):
cut me off completely, and I'm not entirely sure why,
and that's what I find heartbreaking. So, in a new
study called going No Contact, the form of estrangement where
adult children cut ties with their parents is becoming more common,
but it's not necessarily becoming more common for the reasons

(01:03:17):
that I have known people who have cut their parents
out of their life. I know people who have cut
their parents out of a life because of mental illness
on their parents' part, of addiction on their parents' part,
perhaps their parents displayed significant narcissistic behaviors that led to

(01:03:37):
them to do things to their children monetarily that we're wrong.
I mean, there are valid reasons to cut your family
out of your life. But what we're seeing now is
people who get into a challenging moment with family members
and use that moment as an excuse to not deal
with their parents again. I don't think that's fair. You know,

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family is the most complicated, difficult challenging relationship for a
lot of people in this world, a lot of people.
When I married Chuck and I started going around his family,
that was the first time I realized how different my
family was than a lot of other families that I've known.
His family is big and loud and warm, and you

(01:04:25):
walk in and they welcome you, and you just feel
like a part of the family right away. My family
is nothing like that. Now, I don't want to sit
here and say, oh, my family is awful, because it's
not awful. It's just so foreign to that. But maintaining
a positive relationship with the people that you are born
into a family, you know a part of you don't

(01:04:45):
get to choose your family. Isn't that the old thing?
You don't get to choose your family. Get to choose
your friends, but not your family. But I think there's
a lot to be said for maintaining those relationships that
have seen a bump in the road. One of the
concerns I have about younger people now is their lack
of resilience and their lack of understanding that sometimes you

(01:05:06):
may have a horrific, horrible, knockdown, drag out, blowout argument
with someone, but that doesn't have to mean the end.
Sometimes you just needed to have a knockdown, drag out,
blowout argument with them, and then once everybody settles down,
you get back together, you say, Okay, that was a
little over the top, but let's talk about the underlying issues,
and you work it out without a knockdown, drag out argument.

(01:05:27):
But now people are cutting off their parents because of politics,
and I think a big part of that is that
one of the hardest transitions that I have experienced as
a parent, with both of my sons, who are now
in their their early thirties, you have to go through
a period where you move your kids from the child

(01:05:48):
category into the adult child category, and your relationship should
change dramatically at that point in a lot of ways.
It's better in a lot of ways once you get
over that bridge of my child as a child to
my child as an adult and you work on accepting
each other as adults. A lot of good can come

(01:06:11):
out of that. You know, one of the reasons I
can look back on my childhood with great fondness and
not great animosity, because there were times in my life
where both of my parents failed me, and my brother
and sister spectacularly, never abusive or anything like that, nothing
like that. But they failed us in significant ways. And

(01:06:33):
I'm not angry at them because I look at them
as human beings. I look at them from the perspective
of how they were raised, the examples, the information they
gathered in their childhoods, and I'm able to look at
them as human beings and people, and I'm able to
accept the things about them that are not great, just
as I hope someday all of my children get to

(01:06:56):
a point where they can look at me words and
all and say, you know what, she wasn't perfect, but
we know she tried. We know she tried hard. But
that process, that bridging of the gap, you know, required
a lot of conversations. There were conversations I had, especially
with my younger son, where I just said, I am

(01:07:16):
not viewing you as a child, but you are acting
as if I am, you know. And I told my
younger son, I said, the advice that I give you
is the same advice that I would give a young intern.
That people who want to be there to get, you know,
take my knowledge because they think I have value in
that knowledge. But you have to say that to your
adult kids. Like, I don't view you as a child anymore,

(01:07:39):
So I'm not gonna treat you with kid gloves. If
you're being an idiot, I'm gonna say you're being an idiot.
But then at the same time, if if he doesn't
think he's being an idiot and he's gonna make choices
as an adult that I disagree with, I have to
be okay with that too. And damn, that's hard, you guys.
That is really really really hard. So yeah, uh, Mandy,

(01:08:02):
you can pick your nose and you can pick your friends,
but you can't pick your friend's nose correct texture. Fact
yet true, Mandy, biologically related is different than family. That
from Jason, and I get that. I have people that
I'm not related to, that I'm not blood related to
that are my family. So I get that, but I
always want people to understand, especially when it comes to

(01:08:23):
political disagreements. The Democratic Party isn't going to show up
at your funeral, Neither is the Republican Party. They're not
going to be there when you have a baby. They're
not going to be there when you get married. They're
not going to be there when you need somebody but
your family. If you have the ability to create a
family that is happy and healthy. And I think you do.
But it requires work. Then that's important. That's absolutely important, Mandy.

(01:08:51):
When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was
so ignorant. I could hardly stand to have the old
man around. But when I got to be twenty one,
I was astonished how much the old man had learned
in seven years. That from Mark Twain, absolutely perfect. I'll
leave it on that.

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Keeping you really sad thing? The two minute drill at
two Hey, we're I go too many warnings, rapid fire
stories of the day that we don't have more time for.
Let's call. This will take longer than two minutes. Are
you are you? Here's Mandy Connall.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
All right, my friends. Israel has had to delay the
retaliation they will be seeking against Iran after the massive
flurry of ballistic missiles that Aron fired at Israel. Why
the delay, Well, that be because of the leak of
extremely sensitive military information from none other than the US government.
The link reveal. The leak revealed Israel's well advanced plans

(01:10:10):
to respond to those ballistic missiles, and now they've had
to well push it back. The documents apparently made reference
to Golden Horizon in rocks to Israeli air launched ballistic missiles,
and Israel's concern the leak could help Iron predict the
certain pattern of attacks. Now, if I am Israel, here's
what I do. I leak fake plans to the United

(01:10:32):
States of America, or I give them fake plans knowing
that someone in the Bidenherris administration is going to leak
them anyway, and then I use those fake plans to
create a distraction, much like they did before they stormed
the beaches of Normandy in World War Two. And they
use our porous administration to their advantage. But right now

(01:10:52):
they're just trying to make sure that they can attack
at some point. No thanks to us. My mama always
said when I was a teenager, nothing good happens after midnight.
And I'm guessing Denver Bronco's wide receiver Josh Reynolds might
be feeling that way. It was announced yesterday actually right
after my show Ryan and big Al were talking about

(01:11:15):
it right out of the shoot yesterday, but he was
shot outside of shotgun. Willies. Now, there's a lot to
be said for the location of this, the time of it,
which was like three o'clock in the morning on Friday morning,
after they got done getting back from the Saints game.
But again, young men, young women, nothing good happens after midnight.

(01:11:39):
Drill it too well, couver it's happening. A Polish radio
station o FF Radio Crackow, has sparked controversy by replacing
its journalist with artificial intelligence generated presenters. The station, based
in Krackow, as you can imagine from the name, recently
relaunched with three AI we avatars in hopes of attracting

(01:12:02):
younger listeners to talk about culture, art, and social topics
like LGBTQ issues. Dubbed the first AI experiment in Poland,
the move has sparked a public backlash, with many sides
arguing the pros and cons of AI's role in the workforce.
The journalist and film critic, who used to host a
show on off Radio Krakau, has protested the experiment in

(01:12:23):
an open letter published Tuesday, warning replacing journalists with AI
presenters would create a world in which experienced employees associated
with the media sector for years and people employed in
creative industries will be replaced by machines. So far, no
word on the ratings, but you know what they're coming
for Uscouver. The robots are coming for us. It too

(01:12:49):
little side note that I want you to know about.
If you love live music, one of my favorite smaller
venues in Denver, two ca Show is Ophelia's Electric Box.
It's been closed for some times. It has changed hands.
It's no longer part of the Edible Beats group, but
it is going to be back open with a brand
new sound system. That was always an issue for me.

(01:13:10):
You have to be in the right place in ophelia
Is in order to have good sound. But apparently they
fix that problem. So if you love live music, I
put a link to their upcoming events. That's just because
I like the space.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Drill it too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
You can go Where the Wild Things Are because the
Denver Art Museum has an entire display of Maurice Sendak's
best work. He is the famous artist behind the classic
Where the Wild Things Are. By the way, you know,
this is one of those books that everybody's like, oh,
why are the wild things? Are never liked it. Didn't
like it as a kid. Somebody gave it to us

(01:13:42):
when Q was little. She didn't like it either. There's
a genetic component. I don't know. There is a really
stunning exhibit for those of you who really enjoy his work.
He did die in twenty twelve. It'll be going through
February seventeenth, so you have a little bit of time
to work work with too. And finally, this isn't really

(01:14:05):
a story, but I've been watching it all day on Twitter.
Washington Post fake conservative columnist Jennifer Ruben has been working
overtime to cast dispersions at everyone who works at the
Los Angeles Times who did not immediately quit their job
when the LA Times decided they were not going to

(01:14:27):
endorse a candidate, meaning they weren't going to endorse Kamala Harris.
She's been asking people at the LA Times, why is
there anyone left at the LA Times? Why hasn't everyone
gone from the LA Times? What are all you people
working at the LA Times doing there? What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
All?

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Fun? Fun?

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
The Washington Post has now announced it is not going
to issue an endorsement for president. Can't wait to see
how fast Jennifer Rubin quits her job over editorial differences.
I love it when the chickens come home to roost,
and boy, howdie did they come home to roost on
Jennifer Ruben. Jennifer Ruben frustrates me not because she has
an opinion that I think is wrong most of the time.

(01:15:09):
It frustrates me because she needs to just drop any
pretense of being an actual conservative person, because on every
issue from where I sit, she is a liberal, not
a screaming, hardcore lefty progressive, but a solid liberal on everything.
And yet she still wants us to believe that she
is some kind of conservative. And more importantly, the Washington

(01:15:32):
Post seems to be laboring under the illusion that she
is some kind of conservative. But if they think she's conservative,
that explains a lot, I mean a whole lot. So
we've got that going on. In the next segment, the
wine Yogi, who I am friends with in real life
and friends with on Facebook, left a comment on her

(01:15:53):
Facebook page that caught my eye, and it just says
people are rude. Don't talk on your damn phone on
speaker when you're in a spa environment ffs a hole.
At least she didn't say a hole. And it got
me to thinking, it's time for us to work collectively
as a group, you and me, all of us. Let's

(01:16:16):
come up with some new cell phone rules, specifically what
you do in that situation. Because I have ideas, but
I don't want to get shot right like I I'd
like to have a way to nicely say to someone
or at least indicate to them that it's not okay
to have a conversation on your speaker phone in public.
I'm going to say, in public, I don't do it

(01:16:37):
at all. Do you talk on the phone when you're
in the grocery store? Coover, Is that a thing you do?

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I do not.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
I don't talk on the phone in the bathroom. I
don't talk on the phone in the grocery store. I
don't talk on the phone on the train. When I
took the light rail the other day, Truck's like, give
me a complain, and then I want to talk to
you on the phone. And I don't want to talk
on the phone in public. I just don't want to
do it. So what I'm saying is none of your business.
But now we have people that will sit there and
have a conversation, and I'm always tempted to say something like,

(01:17:04):
could you turn up the volume? I can't quite make
out both sides of the conversation, but that seems a
wee bit sarcastic. So I'd like to know what you
guys do in that situation. We'll talk about that next. Okay,
Ba's to the most critically important question of the day.
How do you handle when somebody sits next to you
in a quiet setting and has a conversation on their

(01:17:25):
speaker phone. Because that's not cool. People, just not cool.
I have several of you with some well some suggestions.
I don't know if I can get on board with these. Mandy,
you should be able to slap the cell phone out
of someone's hand. If you're paying so little attention to

(01:17:46):
your surroundings that someone can slap the phone out of
your hand, you deserve it. So that's the game. Slap
that freaking phone. But then the possibility of getting shot exists.
I don't know anything about the people who's phone I'm
supposed to be slapping out of their hands. Prefer not
to have that just saying, Mandy, I drive for Uber

(01:18:11):
and Lyft people have no filters anymore. I'm shocked every
day as to what I hear people both male and female,
talk about on their phones when I'm in the same car.
Those people are the people that are how can I
what's the right way to put this? They are blind
to the help and I'm not calling you the help
Uber Lyft driver, but that's how they see you. Right,

(01:18:33):
You're not an entity. You're just the guy driving Uber,
which is unfortunate. I chat with my Uber drivers. Do
you chat with your Uber drivers?

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Couber?

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Do you chit chat with them?

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
I don't take Uber ever, not ever, but it's been
a while.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
I don't take it when I'm home, but when I travel,
I take it all the time. Or cabs, even I
view cabs and Uber is kind of interchangeable in terms
of I'm talking to the cab driver, you know, I
think it's interesting to talk to the cab drivers know
everything about everything. Mandy. Why are millionaires and billionaires endorsing
and voting for Kamala when her economic policies could just
hurt their bottom line? What do they gain? I Okay,

(01:19:13):
I'm gonna say something that's gonna sound a little a
little crazy, but I'm saying anyway, I think that the
millionaires and the billionaires have been assured that Kamala isn't
really running things and that there's a zero percent chance
that her idiotic and stupid tax plans will ever be adopted,
and they have a better foothold and better opportunities within

(01:19:36):
the Democratic Party from where they're sitting. Some of them
probably just don't like Trump. And the thing you have
to remember, especially about billionaires, not so much millionaires, because
you could have you could have a million, two million,
five million in assets and still live a very middle
class life, you know what I'm saying, Like that's it
sounds like a lot of money when you're making thirty
grand a year, but the closer you get to that,

(01:19:58):
and if you're at that, you're like, okay, those millionaires
are a lot different than billionaires. Billionaires always have ways
to get around taxes, and if things get really bad,
they can just leave. They can all move to Switzerland.
Switzerland would be happy to take them and their money
into their banking system. Everyone speaks English there. That's where

(01:20:19):
all the Norwegian millionaires and millionaires are moving now now
that they pass the unrealized capital to our capital gains tax,
they're just leaving. Billionaires are a different level, and people think, oh,
they don't want to leave. It doesn't matter. They have
private jets. If they want to see their family, they
just fly and see them. I mean, it's just they have.
Their life is so different than our lives that it's

(01:20:42):
almost hard to wrap your head around. And that's why
it's easy to demonize them because you don't realize these things.
Oh they could just pick up and leave, Yes, they could,
and they can take their companies with them. So yeah,
the phone slap game is an agreed upon game. It's
societal rules. If someone ran up to me right now
tried to slap my phone, they wouldn't be able because
I'm paying attention. But how do you get the word

(01:21:05):
out about that? Hi, Mandy? I suggest the spa take
the reins and place a few signs here and there
as reminders. The signs could be very polite and say,
kindly turn all cell phones off during spa treatments, thank you.
I have had I have been. I have been in
a SPA setting where someone sat next to me next

(01:21:26):
to the sign that said no cell phones allowed, and
use their cell phone. So I love what you're saying,
and I think most spas do make an effort, although
I will say this, I don't like a spa where
cell phones are allowed, like where you're in the back,
where you're maybe at the you know, if you're in
a really nice spa where you have different options like

(01:21:47):
a spa or a sauna or a dry sauna and
a hot tub and like various things in a really
nice spa, I don't think cell phones should be allowed
in those back areas. I just don't. I never have.
It totally kills the vibe, and I generally don't go
back to spas that allow cell phones in the back.

(01:22:07):
And you know where they allow cell phones in places
like casinos, in places on cruise ships occasionally not the
nicer ones, but places where they've got people who don't
normally go to spas. Just throwing that out there, Hi, Mandy,
I was surprised the last time I flew part of

(01:22:27):
the instructions or that even headphones are were required if
listening on your electronic device. Why do they even have
to say that? Because you've not been in front of
a child on an airplane who is playing their video
games on an iPad at full volume, because that has
happened to me so many times. I can't even begin,
and I very nicely turn around and say, you're going

(01:22:47):
to have to turn that off. I don't say can
you turn that off? Will you turn that off? I
just turn around and very nicely smile on my face,
You're going to have to turn that off. Okay, thank you,
and then I turn back around, and in all of
my experiences, every single person turned the volume off. It's
easy to intimidate five year olds spooky season, so as

(01:23:13):
we're prone to do, we like to talk about spooky things.
And the women joining me, now, this is the world
they live in, it is the world they inhabit. They
are part of a group called XX Paranormal Communications. And
the XX, just in case you didn't get it, is
for XX chromosomes. Because they're all chicks in this organization.

(01:23:35):
You may remember them from last year. And now I've
got Mackenzie and I don't know if you're Julia or
Christine because I'm terrible at remembering names. So I've got
Mackenzie and who with me today?

Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
Christine?

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
No problem, no problems. Problem, we have hang on couver.
That's my fault. They got a loop. Heir, there we go.
That should fix the problem.

Speaker 10 (01:23:56):
That was me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
It was totally maybe an idiot because it's my first
day on the radio.

Speaker 10 (01:24:00):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
We had you ladies in last year to talk about
what it's like to be a and I don't want
to say ghost hunter because that's not exactly what you
guys do. So who wants to answer the question what
exactly does XX paranormal Communications do? What's your mission statement? McKenzie?

Speaker 14 (01:24:20):
Ultimately, we are paranormal investigators.

Speaker 12 (01:24:23):
Our focus is on making or having communication with spirits
or those who have passed on.

Speaker 14 (01:24:31):
But we say spirits are ghosts.

Speaker 12 (01:24:33):
We don't know exactly who are what we're communicating with.
We can't really see that. But our goal is to
have communication and also to educate the public on if
you're experiencing something paranormal, how to handle that, what to do.
We've talked with middle schools, we've talked with kids, We've

(01:24:53):
talked you know, at libraries and a lot of different
public places to educate the public as well.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
Since you just kids, let me ask you a very
particular question. Are children more capable of picking up on
these vibes than adults?

Speaker 9 (01:25:09):
Julia, you want to answer that Christine, I was crying,
I would say definitely from my own personal experience with
my own kids and doing some of these events.

Speaker 8 (01:25:21):
Like Mackenzie said, with kids, they're younger, they're more open
to it. I've talked to kids.

Speaker 9 (01:25:27):
You know, I live up in Claar Creek County, and
you know a lot of people up here have had experiences,
and sometimes I think the kids' experiences are more intense.
They can describe things so much clearer than we.

Speaker 8 (01:25:44):
As adults can, and I think they are a lot
more open to it. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Do you think maybe that's because as an adult we're
trying to explain it as we're trying to describe it.

Speaker 8 (01:25:56):
Yeah, I think that could totally be one of the reasons.

Speaker 9 (01:25:59):
I think also I think kids, you know, when you're little,
you play imagination. You're open to all these creative things
that might not be right in front of you. So
if you see or experience something that maybe an adult
would try to rationalize or logically pull apart and dissect,

(01:26:21):
a kid just says, hey, this thing happened without all
of those questions and doubt tied to it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
So I want to ask you, guys, last time you
told us some stories of some of the things you've
been doing. What has happened in the last year since
we've caught up. Have you had some interesting adventures and
tell me about.

Speaker 14 (01:26:37):
That, Christie, And you've had the most recent ones you
take this one.

Speaker 9 (01:26:44):
Yeah, I mean we have, you know, I think, like
Mackenzie said, we've gotten kind of a little more local.
We've done some events at some libraries up here in
Clear Creek County and it's been awesome. And again those
kids' events. I did a great event this summer with
a bunch of middle schoolers and the squeals and screams
and the fun we had was just a blast, and

(01:27:07):
we had some great communication going on and I think
everyone left having had a good time. We've also kind of,
you know, done some more podcasts and just talking about
this a lot more frequently, in addition to other investigations
that we've done. Yeah, I think we're just talking about

(01:27:28):
it more and kind of broadening who we're talking to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Tell me about some of those investigations you know we've done.

Speaker 9 (01:27:39):
We did another one at four Mile Park in Denver,
and we'll be doing another one of those in a
couple of weeks. For their spooky season the John to
May Library and Georgetown. That's been a blast. They've been great.
We did another radio show another radio station, another local

(01:28:00):
radio up in Claire Creek, and as a part of
that I was able to walk around and kind of
see if anything was going around in the building that
they broadcast from. Just last night, I helped with a
cemetery tour and there. It was really fun to have
be walking around a cemetery at night and have all
of this history of the people who are laid to

(01:28:22):
rest there, and then trying to make some communication and
we had a lot of fun.

Speaker 8 (01:28:27):
We had some great contact and we.

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
Actually had contact. How do you know your contact when
you walk through a cemetery? How do you know you're
having contact? Tell me about that.

Speaker 10 (01:28:40):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:28:40):
I set up some equipment, so real basic equipment. I
used my flashlight. We had a spirit box going and
within a minute or two of me setting a flashlight
near a headstone and walking away, it started turning on
and flickering. We also had some K two, which is
a device that measures electromagnetic energy.

Speaker 8 (01:29:01):
Got some flickering on that, and so as we moved
to different locations in the cemetery, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:29:08):
I would just set up each time, and as the
tour guide was going through her information about the specific
plots we were talking about, we'd get some reaction with
the light turning on and off.

Speaker 8 (01:29:17):
And at one point I just asked, you know, are.

Speaker 9 (01:29:20):
You someone new and there was nothing, and I said
are you following on the tour with us? And the
light the flashlight just went nuts and everyone just laughed.
And it was almost like there was a spirit.

Speaker 8 (01:29:33):
There that like said, Hey, I'm learning about some of
the other folks who are buried here. Let's go on
this tour, and it just followed us around. It was
really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
So, Mackenzie, somebody asked, what are your favorite gadgets? And
I think that we all have this idea that you
guys have all of these like things with dials and reels,
kind of like little bit Ghostbusters and whatever. But what
other kind of tools do you guys actually use?

Speaker 12 (01:29:57):
Yeah, so I would say, our team first and foremo
tries to go into an investigation with our intuition, walking
into your room, seeing what we feel and what we
pick up on first and foremost, and then we try
and validate with equipment. So my favorite piece of equipment
is called the spirit box, and what that does is
it goes through AM and FM radio stations. You can

(01:30:21):
choose forwards backwards AM FM and the speed. So if
you're in the mountains, for instance, where there's not a
lot of radio activity that it could be picking up,
or maybe you choose AM or you're going backwards through
a station and you're getting direct responses to your questions.

Speaker 14 (01:30:41):
That's really neat. I love hearing the.

Speaker 12 (01:30:43):
Different voices that come through and getting the direct responses
that way. But I would also say something as simple
as the dousing rods which used to be used to
find water, you can use those, and those are a
simple Amazon purchase, honestly, and pretty cheap about.

Speaker 14 (01:31:00):
Like twenty dollars.

Speaker 12 (01:31:02):
Is there you can ask yes and no questions. If
you're here with me, can you cross the rods? Or
if you're here with me, can you straighten the rods?
And I love that piece of equipment because you can
actually feel the energy and it's a great introduction for
people that are skeptical or that haven't really experienced what
that feels like because.

Speaker 14 (01:31:19):
They know it's not them that are moving those.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
So how do you feel like people are more open
to this. I mean, and I asked this because since
we saw you last year, the federal government was like,
oh yeah, by the way, UFOs are totally real, and
America was like whatever. So I feel like we as
a society are kind of like whatever you're gonna throw
at me, I get it. Do you feel like people
are less skeptical or do you still have the same

(01:31:44):
amount in each camp.

Speaker 12 (01:31:48):
I think we're I think people are becoming more and
more open to it as time goes on. I think
people are talking about it more, and I think it's
you know, a lot of people, I think, over the years,
have been age to talk about it because they don't
want people to think they're crazy. We being a paranormal team,
people usually feel pretty comfortable talking.

Speaker 14 (01:32:07):
To us about their experiences.

Speaker 12 (01:32:09):
But you know, we also did an event before the
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice movie at the Alamo Draft and that was
super fun because we had people coming up to us
after the meeting after the movie asking us questions about
all kinds of different experiences that they've had.

Speaker 14 (01:32:26):
So I think people are becoming more open to it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
What are some of the common experiences that people have?
Are there are there any similarities between these stories that
people are telling you.

Speaker 12 (01:32:39):
Yeah, I think typically what we hear about is objects moving,
you know, picture frames falling off the wall repetitively, no
matter how many times they hang that picture frame on.

Speaker 14 (01:32:49):
The while it falls off, or cold spots.

Speaker 12 (01:32:52):
They'll walk into a certain room and it'll feel really
cold for some reason, or just feeling like you're being.

Speaker 14 (01:32:58):
Watched or that something you know in the room.

Speaker 12 (01:33:02):
I think anyone can feel a lightness or heaviness. I've
told people, you know, when you're house hunting, pay attention
to that energy. If you're looking for a new home
or a new apartment. If you walk in and you
don't feel good or it's not a good energy or feeling.

Speaker 14 (01:33:18):
Trust that. I think everyone can experience that on some
level if they pay attention.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
So, what advice would you have for someone who is like, look,
I feel like maybe my house has a little something
something is there? Is there any way for just like
a lay person to figure out if maybe there is
a spirit in their house that they can communicate with
if they don't have any of the tools or anything.

Speaker 14 (01:33:44):
Yeah, Christine, you want to take this one.

Speaker 9 (01:33:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we always recommend, you know,
these days, with ring cameras with you know, you can
if you're going to bed and you wake up and
all your kitchen cabinets are open, set up a camera
and see what you can see what you can see.
Please don't send us videos of bugs and or because

(01:34:08):
that's not paranormal. But aside from that, you know, something
as simple as a digital recorder, you can set that
out at night and you know, you might find out
that you snow louder than you know you think, but
even you might hear things going on at night, you know.
But with the availability of cameras, and I think that's

(01:34:30):
a really easy way for people to see what's going
on and then see if it can be replicated. If
it's a one time thing. You know, we've been in
places where oh the door's open. Well, if it's an
older house and you walk over and you step on
those old boards and the door pops open, that's a
way you can also debunk it. So just because there's

(01:34:50):
creaking and noises in your house doesn't necessarily mean it's haunted.
But I think trying to document some of what you have,
keep a journal and write down what you're experien if
you're seeing shadows, note the location, note the time, Note
if you were alone, and start to track those things,
because if you start having that stuff and you contacted
a team like us, that would be really helpful for

(01:35:12):
us to see.

Speaker 8 (01:35:12):
Oh wow, you've been tracking this for a while.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Yeah, Christine and Mackenzie with Double X Paranormal Communications. I
put the link to your Instagram page and your Facebook
page if people want to follow and see what you
guys are up to. And I'm sure we will talk
to you again next year around the spooky season, because
why not. And don't get killed by a ghost or anything.
I don't know if that happens, but you know, watch
your back in their ladies. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (01:35:39):
Think that one might have wanted to follow me last night,
but we had a talk on the drive home, so
hopefully not.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
If only it was that easy in every situation. All right, ladies,
thank you so much for your time today. Thank you.
All right, that is the ladies from Double X Paranormal Communications.
Very interesting. Hey, guys, I don't wanna get you all excited,
but we are perilously close to being done with this

(01:36:07):
presidential election cycle and now I don't even know if
we're gonna have I don't think we're gonna have the
winner on election night, not of the presidential race, because
we already have to my knowledge, and if I'm wrong
about this, please feel free to correct me at Mandy
Connell at iHeartMedia dot com. But I'd like to think

(01:36:30):
we're gonna be done with the nonsense part because they
are only blue counties that have indicated they won't be
able to finish counting their ballots in a timely fashion,
and I'd love for people to start talking about the
fact that for so far, although wait a minute, I
don't know if Maricopa County is blue. Is Maricopa County blue?

(01:36:52):
Let's see it does not say let me see here.
So in Maricopa cat they've already had a ballot box
or a mailbox. Someone tried to set it on fire,
So that's awesome. Maricopa County is primed for the Democratic Party.

(01:37:16):
Oh that's in twenty twenty. Phoenix is I can't tell.
Maricopa County said they're not going to be able to
count all the ballots. Pennsylvania has already said, hey, we're
not going to be able to get this done in
one night. I don't understand. And here's the thing. If
I had a chance to interview these people and ask
them one question, I would say, why can't you do

(01:37:36):
what a vast majority of other cities your size can
do in one night? What is the problem? And if
they give you some blobbty blog that she said, why
don't you call Florida? Why don't you call some other
county that's similar in size and say, how are you
guys getting this done in one day? Because if other
people can do it and you're not doing it, if
a vast majority of people are doing it and you're
not doing it, it means you're incompetent. That's the only

(01:38:00):
thing that could mean. Otherwise, you get it done when
everybody else does. Mandy, someday, before you retire from radio,
would you ever see whether iHeart would let you guest
host Coast to Coast AM. That'd be great, y'all. Secret
dream of mine is to guest host one night Coast
to Coast AM. You've listened to Coast to Coast, haven't you?

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
Okay, So my radio career started in the overnights. We
came on right after Coast to Coast. Then I got
a morning show. Excuse me right before No, we came
over right before Coast to Coast, and then I got
a morning show and came on right after Coast to Coast.
So I have listened so many many times to Coast
to Coast and I love it. I loved it when

(01:38:44):
Art Bell did it. I love it when George Nori
does it. I love it because they're so genuinely curious
about the craziness that they're interviewing people about, and so
much of it is just ray pray, but they're so
serious about it. It was like if I was to

(01:39:05):
ask Brian Edwards, Hey, Ryan, remember when you were telling
me about that ghost you saw in the studio the
other day the apparition. Tell me about that and how
you then got abducted by aliens. I've got to hear
the story. This is the seriousness with which they go
about it. You're dead serious. I was listening one night,

(01:39:27):
and this is one of my favorite Coast and ghost stories.
I'm listening one night. It's so good and I'm listening
in this guy is being interviewed by George Norri and
he's I kind of dip in right here in the interview,
just in time to hear George Norri say, so was
that the first or second time you were abducted by aliens?
And I was like, oh, that was the second time.

(01:39:50):
Don't be a dumb ass tourge and I already went
over the first time. But but they're so serious about.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
It, and they treat their guests with such respect that
you appreciate that, right, even if we're also they are
gonna come on. But there is a certain I don't
know because I I wrap up on Sunday nights, you know,
pretty late after the long day of Broncos and all that,
and I listened to George Nori on the way home,
and oh my gosh, it's it's it's amazing.

Speaker 10 (01:40:13):
It really is.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
It's really special. Now on my list of things to
do before I die is I want a guest host
Coast to cost A one day for real, one time.
I could totally do.

Speaker 6 (01:40:22):
It, totally do it and legitimately it's it's radio, so
whatever it. But how do you like? Again, I only respectful,
But then you're like, wait a.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
Minute, but use the George Costanza logic. It's not a
lie if you believe it, right, and all of those
people believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
They believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
They all believe in their soul. And now it's for
the most exciting segment all the radio of its guy
the world, no constraints on a Friday of the day.
All right, here we go. What is our dad joke
of the day? Please? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Our dad joke of the day is what's forest gum password? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
I don't know one forrest one? Oh wow, boo booes boo.
I had a tomato, I throw it at you. Go ahead.
What is our word of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
You'll get this one easily.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Ephori euphoria feeling of extreme happiness. Yes, Joy, who wrote
the songs featured in the twenty twenty one Disney film
and Canto. I believe that was man love Miranda Miranda.
They always want to say nor Diego, which is clearly
wrong and not at all that person in any way,

(01:41:37):
shape or form. Yes, lynt Manuel Miranda catchy song when
saw Hamilton?

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Did you really so good?

Speaker 12 (01:41:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
You know why I haven't seen Hamilton. And this is
how petty and small I am. Someone that I used
to be friends with that I am no longer friends
with did not shut up about Hamilton for like three years,
and I was just like I'm never going to see
that musical now, I'm never going to see.

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
It legitimately like George Stanza style, legitimate reason and I
see it, but I will say you should see it
because it's really.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
I can't get past that. The distaste for that person
is so strong. But to deny yourself. So I didn't
say it was rational, Ryan, I just said that's what
it was, all right. What's our jeopardy category, please, sir?

Speaker 13 (01:42:18):
Our jeopardy category today is classic television?

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
So I feel good about this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
Right, all right? Question one?

Speaker 6 (01:42:25):
Will Smith lived to this?

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
I think Ryan got it?

Speaker 6 (01:42:29):
What is the fresh Prince of bel Air?

Speaker 8 (01:42:32):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
The answer is bell Air? But I guess I said
bel Air.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
I said Air, you said the first prince. You gave
the whole title, and now you're trying to get around it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:38):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
Oh, I already gave you the point. I'm giving you
a minus one manby what is bel Air?

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
That's terrible?

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
Is I will take that point? Go ahead because you're
already given the answer, So ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Question two.

Speaker 13 (01:42:53):
Nineteen sixty four saw the premieres of both The Adams
Family and this show also named What Is the Monsters.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Yes, yeah, I think we've had this category before.

Speaker 6 (01:43:03):
I have nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we have. But it's okay because
obviously it's not helping me. Yeah, you're back to zero
and I've got nothing, so obviously it's not really creating
any one. No, I didn't give myself one because he
had already given the answer, right, go ahead, all right?

Speaker 6 (01:43:15):
This show about the Korean War? What is mash yeshboard?

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Question four?

Speaker 13 (01:43:23):
Beginning in nineteen seventy eight Bill Dixby?

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Maybe, No, what is the incredible hault God?

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:43:31):
And finally a footnote to history. Magician Fred Claps followed
the Beatles on this on his What.

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
Is ed The Ed Sullivan Show? Yes, there's the only
place that that would have occurred. There's no other show
that that would have ever happened.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Good one.

Speaker 4 (01:43:45):
I don't know if I feel like we had that
category before. Obviously it wasn't super helpful. What do you
guys have coming up on KA Sports?

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Well, it's a football Friday. We got to get ready
for the Carolina Panthers. Broc ten and a half point favorites.
Let me just let me just seems optimistic.

Speaker 4 (01:43:59):
I'm not gonna lie, But you know, it was fine
watching them kind of let the offense work a little bit.
But they're now. I think the Panthers have a better
situation than the Saints do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Not much, not much.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
I mean, they're really banged up. There was the top
two wide receivers, just like the Saints were. They're the
worst run defense in the league, hundred sixty two yards,
giving up every game on the ground. Never mind then, yeah,
so in a lot of ways they're actually worse than
the Saints.

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
We once again it's like, yeah, that doesn't mean you
were gifted a win.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
We'll get to that.

Speaker 6 (01:44:26):
We have Nick Benito, we have Pats or Tan joining
the show.

Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
So Day, Big Day. That's all coming up. We'll be
back on Monday. Keep it right here on Kowa