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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And the women joining me. Now, this is the world
they live in, it is the world they habit. They
are part of a group called XX Paranormal Communications. And
the XX, just in case you didn't get it, is
for XX chromosomes. Because they're all chicks in this organization.
You may remember them from last year. And now I've
(00:21):
got Mackenzie and I don't know if if you're Julia
or Christine because I'm terrible at remembering names. So I've
got Mackenzie and who with me today?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Christine?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
No problem, no problem, No we hang on couver. That's
my fault. They got a loop, heir, There we go.
That should fix the problem.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That was me.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That was totally maybe an idiot because it's my first
day on the radio. Now, we had you ladies in
last year to talk about what it's like to be
a and I don't want to say ghost hunter because
that's not exactly what you guys do. So who wants
to answer the question what exactly does XX Paranormal Communications do?
What's your mission statement? McKenzie?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Ultimately, we are paranormal investigators. Our focus is on making
or having communication with spirits or those who have passed on.
But we say spirits are ghosts.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Exactly who or what we're communicating with. We can't really
see that, but our goal is to have communication and
also to educate the public on if you're experiencing something paranormal,
how to handle that, what to do. We we've talked
with middle schools, We've talked with kids, We've talked you know,
(01:37):
at libraries and a lot of different public places to
educate the public as well.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Since you just brought up kids, let me ask you
a very particular question. Are children more capable of picking
up on these vibes than adults? Julia, you want to answer.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That, I would say definitely from my own personal experience
with my own kids and doing some of these events.
Like Mackenzie said, with kids, they're younger, they're more open
to it. I've talked to kids, you know, I live
up in Clear Creek County, and you know a lot
(02:14):
of people up here have had experiences, and sometimes I
think the kids' experiences are more intense. They can describe
things so much clearer than we as adults can, and
I think they are a lot more open to it. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Do you think maybe that's because as an adult we're
trying to explain it as we're trying to describe it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I think that could totally be one of the reasons.
I think also, I think kids, you know, when you're little,
you play imagination. You're open to all these creative things
that might not be right in front of you. So
if you see or experience something that maybe an adult
would try to rationalize or logically pull apart and dissect,
(03:04):
a kid just says, hey, this thing happened without all
of those questions and doubt tied to it.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So I want to ask you guys, last time you
told us some stories of some of the things you've
been doing. What has happened in the last year since
we've caught up. Have you had some interesting adventures? And
tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Christine, you've had the most recent ones you take this one.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean we have, you know, I think, like
Mackenzie said, we've gotten kind of a little more local.
We've done some events at some libraries up here in
Clear Creek County and it's been awesome. And again those
kids' events. I did a great event this summer with
a bunch of middle schoolers and the Squeals and screams,
and the fun we had was just a blast, and
(03:50):
we had some great communication going on and I think
everyone left having had a good time. We've also kind of,
you know, done some more podcasts and just talking about
this a lot more frequently, in addition to other investigations
that we've done. Yeah, I think we're just talking about
(04:11):
it more and kind of broadening who we're talking to.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Tell me about some of those investigations you.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Know we've done. We did another one at four Mile
Park in Denver, and we'll be doing another one of
those in a couple of weeks for their spooky season
the John to May Library in Georgetown. That's been a blast.
They've been great. We did another radio show another radio station,
(04:42):
another local radio up in Claire Creek, and as a
part of that, I was able to walk around and
kind of see if anything was going around in the
building that they broadcast from. Just last night, I helped
with a cemetery tour and it was really fun to
have be walking aroun around a same terry at night
and have all of this history of the people who
(05:04):
are laid to rest there and then trying to make
some communication and we had a lot of fun. We
had some great contact and we think we actually contact.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
How do you know you're having contact when you when
you walk through a cemetery? How do you know you're
having contact? Tell me about that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well. I set up some equipment, so real basic equipment.
I used my flashlight. We had a spirit box going
and within a minute or two of me setting a
flashlight near a headstone and walking away, it started turning
on and flickering. We also had some K two, which
is a device that measures electromagnetic energy. Got some flickering
(05:45):
on that, and so as we moved to different locations
in the cemetery, you know, I would just set up
each time, and as the tour guide was going through
her information about the specific plots we were talking about,
we'd get some reaction with the light turning on and off.
And at one point I just asked, you know, are
you someone new And there was nothing, and I said,
(06:09):
are you following on the tour with us? And the light?
The flashlight just what nuts? And everyone just laughed and
it was almost like there was a spirit.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
There that like said, Hey, I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
About some of the other folks who are buried here.
Let's go on this tour and it just followed us around.
It was really fun.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So, Mackenzie, somebody asked, what are your favorite gadgets? And
I think that we all have this idea that you
guys have all of these things with dials and reels,
kind of like little Bit Ghostbusters and whatever. But what
other kind of tools do you guys actually use?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, So I would say our team, first and foremost
tries to go into an investigation with our intuition, walking
into a room, seeing what we feel and what we
pick up on first and foremost, and then we try
and validate with equipment. So my favorite piece of equipment
is called a spirit box and what that dies as
it goes through AM and FM radio stations. You can
(07:04):
choose forwards, backwards, AM, FM, and the speed. So if
you're in the mountains, for instance, where there's not a
lot of radio activity that it could be picking up,
or maybe you choose AM, or you're going backwards through
a station and you're getting direct responses to your questions,
that's really neat. I love hearing the different voices that
(07:27):
come through and getting the direct responses that way. But
I would also say something as simple as the dousing
rods which used to be used to find water. You
can use those and those are as simple Amazon purchase, honestly,
and they're pretty cheap, about like twenty dollars, and you
can ask yes and no questions. If you're here with me,
(07:48):
can you cross the rods? Or if you're here with me,
can you straighten the rods? And I love that piece
of equipment because you can actually feel the energy and
it's a great introduction for people that are skeptical or
that haven't really experienced what that feels like because they
know it's not them that are moving those.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So how do you feel like people are more open
to this? I mean, and I asked this because since
we saw you last year, the federal government was like,
oh yeah, by the way, UFOs are totally real, and
America was like whatever. So I feel like we as
a society are kind of like whatever you're gonna throw
at me, I get it. Do you feel like people
are less skeptical or do you still have the same
(08:27):
amount in each camp?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think we're I think people are becoming more and
more open to it as time goes on. I think
people are talking about it more. And I think it's
you know a lot of people, I think over the years,
have been afraid to talk about it because they don't
want people to think they're crazy. We being a paranormal team,
people usually feel pretty comfortable talking to us about their experiences.
(08:52):
But you know, we also did an event before the
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice movie at the Alamo Draft and that was
super fun because we had people coming up to us
after the meeting after the movie asking us questions about
all kinds of different experiences that they've had. So I
think people are becoming more open to it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What are some of the common experiences that people have?
Are there are there any similarities between these stories that
people are telling you.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, I think typically what we hear about is objects moving,
you know, picture frames falling off the wall repetitively, no
matter how many times they hang that picture frame on
the waile it falls off, or cold spots. They'll walk
into a certain room and it'll feel really cold for
some reason, or just feeling like you're being watched or
that something's you know, in the room. I think anyone
(09:46):
can feel a lightness or heaviness. I've told people, you know,
when you're house hunting, pay attention to that energy. If
you're looking for a new home or new apartment, if
you walk in and you don't feel good or it's
not a good energy or feeling, trust that. I think
everyone can experience that on some level if they pay attention.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So what advice would you have for someone who is like, look,
I feel like maybe my house has a little something
something Is there? Is there any way for just like
a lay person to figure out if maybe there is
a spirit in their house that they can communicate with
if they don't have any of the tools or anything.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, because Sine, you want to take this one.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we always recommend, you know
these days, with ring cameras with you know, you can
if you're going to bed and you wake up and
all your kitchen cabinets are open, set up a camera
and see what you can see what you can see.
Please don't send us videos of bugs and or because
(10:51):
that's not paranormal. But aside from that, you know, something
as simple as a digital recorder, you can set that
out at night and you know you might find out
that you snore louder than you know you think, but
even you might hear things going on at night, you know,
but with the availability of cameras, I think that's a
(11:13):
really easy way for people to see what's going on
and then see if it can be replicated. If it's
a one time thing. You know, we've been in places
where oh the door's open. Well, if it's an older
house and you walk over and you step on those
old boards and the door pops open, that's a way
you can also debunk it. So just because there's creaking
(11:34):
and noises in your house doesn't necessarily mean it's haunted.
But I think trying to document some of what you have.
Keep a journal and write down what you're experiencing. If
you're seeing shadows, note the location, note the time, note
if you were alone, and start to track those things,
because if you start having that stuff and you contacted
a team like us, that would be really helpful for
(11:55):
us to see, oh wow, you've been tracking this for
a while.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah. Uh, Christine and McKay with Double X Paranormal Communications,
I put the link to your Instagram page and your
Facebook page if people want to follow and see what
you guys are up to. And I'm sure we will
talk to you again next year around the spooky season.
Because why not. And uh, don't get killed by a
ghost or anything. I don't know if that happens, but
you know, watch your back in there, ladies.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, one of my kids.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, I think that one might have wanted to follow
me last night, but we had a talk on the
drive home, so hopefully not.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
If only it was that easy in every situation. All right, ladies,
thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you
And the women joining me. Now, this is the world
they live in, it is the world they habit. They
are part of a group called XX Paranormal Communications. And
the XX, just in case you didn't get it, is
for XX chromosomes. Because they're all chicks in this organization.
You may remember them from last year. And now I've
(00:21):
got Mackenzie and I don't know if if you're Julia
or Christine because I'm terrible at remembering names. So I've
got Mackenzie and who with me today?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Christine?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
No problem, no problem, No we hang on couver. That's
my fault. They got a loop, heir, There we go.
That should fix the problem.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That was me.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That was totally maybe an idiot because it's my first
day on the radio. Now, we had you ladies in
last year to talk about what it's like to be
a and I don't want to say ghost hunter because
that's not exactly what you guys do. So who wants
to answer the question what exactly does XX Paranormal Communications do?
What's your mission statement? McKenzie?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Ultimately, we are paranormal investigators. Our focus is on making
or having communication with spirits or those who have passed on.
But we say spirits are ghosts.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Exactly who or what we're communicating with. We can't really
see that, but our goal is to have communication and
also to educate the public on if you're experiencing something paranormal,
how to handle that, what to do. We we've talked
with middle schools, We've talked with kids, We've talked you know,
(01:37):
at libraries and a lot of different public places to
educate the public as well.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Since you just brought up kids, let me ask you
a very particular question. Are children more capable of picking
up on these vibes than adults? Julia, you want to answer.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That, I would say definitely from my own personal experience
with my own kids and doing some of these events.
Like Mackenzie said, with kids, they're younger, they're more open
to it. I've talked to kids, you know, I live
up in Clear Creek County, and you know a lot
(02:14):
of people up here have had experiences, and sometimes I
think the kids' experiences are more intense. They can describe
things so much clearer than we as adults can, and
I think they are a lot more open to it. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Do you think maybe that's because as an adult we're
trying to explain it as we're trying to describe it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I think that could totally be one of the reasons.
I think also, I think kids, you know, when you're little,
you play imagination. You're open to all these creative things
that might not be right in front of you. So
if you see or experience something that maybe an adult
would try to rationalize or logically pull apart and dissect,
(03:04):
a kid just says, hey, this thing happened without all
of those questions and doubt tied to it.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So I want to ask you guys, last time you
told us some stories of some of the things you've
been doing. What has happened in the last year since
we've caught up. Have you had some interesting adventures? And
tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Christine, you've had the most recent ones you take this one.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean we have, you know, I think, like
Mackenzie said, we've gotten kind of a little more local.
We've done some events at some libraries up here in
Clear Creek County and it's been awesome. And again those
kids' events. I did a great event this summer with
a bunch of middle schoolers and the Squeals and screams,
and the fun we had was just a blast, and
(03:50):
we had some great communication going on and I think
everyone left having had a good time. We've also kind of,
you know, done some more podcasts and just talking about
this a lot more frequently, in addition to other investigations
that we've done. Yeah, I think we're just talking about
(04:11):
it more and kind of broadening who we're talking to.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Tell me about some of those investigations you.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Know we've done. We did another one at four Mile
Park in Denver, and we'll be doing another one of
those in a couple of weeks for their spooky season
the John to May Library in Georgetown. That's been a blast.
They've been great. We did another radio show another radio station,
(04:42):
another local radio up in Claire Creek, and as a
part of that, I was able to walk around and
kind of see if anything was going around in the
building that they broadcast from. Just last night, I helped
with a cemetery tour and it was really fun to
have be walking aroun around a same terry at night
and have all of this history of the people who
(05:04):
are laid to rest there and then trying to make
some communication and we had a lot of fun. We
had some great contact and we think we actually contact.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
How do you know you're having contact when you when
you walk through a cemetery? How do you know you're
having contact? Tell me about that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well. I set up some equipment, so real basic equipment.
I used my flashlight. We had a spirit box going
and within a minute or two of me setting a
flashlight near a headstone and walking away, it started turning
on and flickering. We also had some K two, which
is a device that measures electromagnetic energy. Got some flickering
(05:45):
on that, and so as we moved to different locations
in the cemetery, you know, I would just set up
each time, and as the tour guide was going through
her information about the specific plots we were talking about,
we'd get some reaction with the light turning on and off.
And at one point I just asked, you know, are
you someone new And there was nothing, and I said,
(06:09):
are you following on the tour with us? And the light?
The flashlight just what nuts? And everyone just laughed and
it was almost like there was a spirit.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
There that like said, Hey, I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
About some of the other folks who are buried here.
Let's go on this tour and it just followed us around.
It was really fun.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So, Mackenzie, somebody asked, what are your favorite gadgets? And
I think that we all have this idea that you
guys have all of these things with dials and reels,
kind of like little Bit Ghostbusters and whatever. But what
other kind of tools do you guys actually use?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, So I would say our team, first and foremost
tries to go into an investigation with our intuition, walking
into a room, seeing what we feel and what we
pick up on first and foremost, and then we try
and validate with equipment. So my favorite piece of equipment
is called a spirit box and what that dies as
it goes through AM and FM radio stations. You can
(07:04):
choose forwards, backwards, AM, FM, and the speed. So if
you're in the mountains, for instance, where there's not a
lot of radio activity that it could be picking up,
or maybe you choose AM, or you're going backwards through
a station and you're getting direct responses to your questions,
that's really neat. I love hearing the different voices that
(07:27):
come through and getting the direct responses that way. But
I would also say something as simple as the dousing
rods which used to be used to find water. You
can use those and those are as simple Amazon purchase, honestly,
and they're pretty cheap, about like twenty dollars, and you
can ask yes and no questions. If you're here with me,
(07:48):
can you cross the rods? Or if you're here with me,
can you straighten the rods? And I love that piece
of equipment because you can actually feel the energy and
it's a great introduction for people that are skeptical or
that haven't really experienced what that feels like because they
know it's not them that are moving those.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So how do you feel like people are more open
to this? I mean, and I asked this because since
we saw you last year, the federal government was like,
oh yeah, by the way, UFOs are totally real, and
America was like whatever. So I feel like we as
a society are kind of like whatever you're gonna throw
at me, I get it. Do you feel like people
are less skeptical or do you still have the same
(08:27):
amount in each camp?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think we're I think people are becoming more and
more open to it as time goes on. I think
people are talking about it more. And I think it's
you know a lot of people, I think over the years,
have been afraid to talk about it because they don't
want people to think they're crazy. We being a paranormal team,
people usually feel pretty comfortable talking to us about their experiences.
(08:52):
But you know, we also did an event before the
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice movie at the Alamo Draft and that was
super fun because we had people coming up to us
after the meeting after the movie asking us questions about
all kinds of different experiences that they've had. So I
think people are becoming more open to it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What are some of the common experiences that people have?
Are there are there any similarities between these stories that
people are telling you.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, I think typically what we hear about is objects moving,
you know, picture frames falling off the wall repetitively, no
matter how many times they hang that picture frame on
the waile it falls off, or cold spots. They'll walk
into a certain room and it'll feel really cold for
some reason, or just feeling like you're being watched or
that something's you know, in the room. I think anyone
(09:46):
can feel a lightness or heaviness. I've told people, you know,
when you're house hunting, pay attention to that energy. If
you're looking for a new home or new apartment, if
you walk in and you don't feel good or it's
not a good energy or feeling, trust that. I think
everyone can experience that on some level if they pay attention.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So what advice would you have for someone who is like, look,
I feel like maybe my house has a little something
something Is there? Is there any way for just like
a lay person to figure out if maybe there is
a spirit in their house that they can communicate with
if they don't have any of the tools or anything.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, because Sine, you want to take this one.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we always recommend, you know
these days, with ring cameras with you know, you can
if you're going to bed and you wake up and
all your kitchen cabinets are open, set up a camera
and see what you can see what you can see.
Please don't send us videos of bugs and or because
(10:51):
that's not paranormal. But aside from that, you know, something
as simple as a digital recorder, you can set that
out at night and you know you might find out
that you snore louder than you know you think, but
even you might hear things going on at night, you know,
but with the availability of cameras, I think that's a
(11:13):
really easy way for people to see what's going on
and then see if it can be replicated. If it's
a one time thing. You know, we've been in places
where oh the door's open. Well, if it's an older
house and you walk over and you step on those
old boards and the door pops open, that's a way
you can also debunk it. So just because there's creaking
(11:34):
and noises in your house doesn't necessarily mean it's haunted.
But I think trying to document some of what you have.
Keep a journal and write down what you're experiencing. If
you're seeing shadows, note the location, note the time, note
if you were alone, and start to track those things,
because if you start having that stuff and you contacted
a team like us, that would be really helpful for
(11:55):
us to see, oh wow, you've been tracking this for
a while.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah. Uh, Christine and McKay with Double X Paranormal Communications,
I put the link to your Instagram page and your
Facebook page if people want to follow and see what
you guys are up to. And I'm sure we will
talk to you again next year around the spooky season.
Because why not. And uh, don't get killed by a
ghost or anything. I don't know if that happens, but
you know, watch your back in there, ladies.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, one of my kids.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, I think that one might have wanted to follow
me last night, but we had a talk on the
drive home, so hopefully not.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
If only it was that easy in every situation. All right, ladies,
thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you
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