10-28-25 FULL SHOW - Is Trans ID Dropping Among Young People?

Professor Eric Kaufmann joins me to talk about the drop in trans identification among young people, Gavin Newsom cosplays poor, and who I like in three school board races. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Tuesday edition of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connall. That guy over there and
his giant jack lantern sweatshirt, that's Anthony Rodriguez. We call
him a rod And together we will take you right
through three p m. Where the fun and festive fellows
of KOA Sports. We'll take you right up through six o'clock.

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And boy, we got a lot on our plate today.
We have a massive blog. Although you know what, Anthony,
I realize Nancy is now making blog decisions for me.
I mean, yeah, I'm trying to be more selective, you know,
trying to take along the blog.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Well, I mean do they It makes your next day
and the next day easier it could you got more
stuff to put on the next day?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, But I'm a cover go from day to day.
I hardly ever go from day to day. I never
pay anything. There's your cutoff, I know. Anyway, respect your
own time. We do have a lot of scrolling in
today's blog, So let's get to it. Find the blog
by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com.
Look for the headline in the latest post section that

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says ten twenty eight twenty five blog is trans i
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are the headlines you will find within any office.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
Half American, all with ships and clipmas.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
That's going to press plant today on the blog trans
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Board Race R E. Dougco Schools Race, R E Denver
school Board Race. Gavin Newsom is a clown scrolling, scrolling, scrolling,
scrolling pray for Jamaica teachers' unions don't represent most teachers.

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Was former Colorado Libertarian chair Hannah Goodman. Ever a libertarian
leaving doors open drops complaints. No health insurance premiums aren't doubling. No,
we don't need to scrap our voted our vote on redissruting.
A big part of my childhood has died. The mayor
just gives away more land than necessary. Mortgage rates are

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averaging six point one to nine percent. Vote no on
Prop LL and MM democrats forget the internet is forever?
Why we yawn? The helpful truth about massage guns. I
had to help Representative Jason Crow out B three consumption
could keep skin cancer away. When a journalist doesn't listen

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to the answers, the more wind and solar, the less
reliable they are. The Fed must drop rates. US jobs
are a problem. How to remember names? An A Rod
Halloween retrospective. You can dress up at Red Rocks in
calling Quinn Miners. I'm calling Quinn Miners the paver from
now on. Sean Payton fest Denisa. I love tiny airports.

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They live up to their names. Finally, a good use
of the margarita and ten years of therapy in sixty seconds.
Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
Tick tech two see I tried, tried. I'm trying to
make it okay for Nancy, but apparently I failed once again.

(03:32):
It's okay, It's fine now, ay, Ron, I have a
You still got the link to the Google's drive. That's
where you're going to find our interview, my interview with
doctor Eric Kaufman. Now we're going to play at one
o'clock today. This guy is a college professor. He created
a firestorm on x when he published a column on
Unheard dot com which I linked to on the blog

(03:54):
that said, hey, according to three rather large surveys of
college students peers, that transidentification is dropping, especially among younger students.
And boy howdy, that was an unpopular opinion and he
got attacked from all quarters for saying it.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
Well.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
He also wrote a substack kind of answering the criticisms,
and the criticisms were all sort of nerdy statistical criticisms
that he very carefully goes back through and sort of
demons it's very nerdy. As a matter of fact. In
the interview, I was like, yeah, we're not breaking that
down too complicated. We're gonna play that at one very

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interesting interview about that. You guys, if you are the
sort to offer a prayers, say a prayer for the
country of Jamaica right now. It is getting absolutely throttled,
throttled by Hurricane Melissa. And they haven't even got the
back end of the storm, which is worse than the
front end of the storm. So keep Jamaica and your prayers.

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If you've ever been to Jamaica, Jamaic has some gorgeous
scenery and some grinding poverty, not like Haiti level poverty.
They do have an economy, and you know, people are
not living in shacks, but they're not living many of
them in great housing. And I have a feeling that
this is going to do a tremendous amount of damage,

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and probably we're going to see some deaths out of
the storm as well. It's too big, Mandy breathe massive blog.
I know you guys, but I can't stop myself. I
have to share the things I learn with you so
I'm not the only one who knows them. Mandy, disappointed
in your attack and a strong conservative focused on exposing

(05:40):
government abuse, et cetera. I listen, and I feel I
have to tell everyone Mandy c sent me, even saying
it in my sleep, but you accused Bannon of pushing product.

Speaker 8 (05:49):
No no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
You're talking about Steve Bannon, and I realized that was
going to be a controversial opinion. I said yesterday, I
don't care for Steve Bannon. The direction that Breitbart has
taken since Andrew Breitbart died is a direction I don't
care for. And I do believe that Steve Bannon is
has an extremely healthy ego, and he kind of comes

(06:15):
across as a lovered spurn to me. So I'm not
telling you he is not, you know, a reliable source.
I'm just saying I don't like him. I'm allowed to
not like people, even if we may share similar viewpoints
on some things. I'm okay with that. Mandy is there's
a report that Bad Bunny is consulting with Trump on
the design of the ballroom. You know what, Anne hurt Is,

(06:36):
I would just like to say thank you, because now
on all of my posts at Mandy Caddle on the
Facebook page, someone mentions Bad Bunny and the ballroom story.
To your thank you, I humbly say, you're all very well.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Why but how does your feeling about this impact Bad
Bunny's upcoming concert in the East Wing.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
For those of you that don't understand what's happening right now,
Anthony is trying to flood my feeds with information about
the ballroom renovation at the White House and Bad Bunny
at the super Bowl, both the things I have expressed
that I care nothing about.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
They've actually now merged Bad Bunny's super Bowl half performance.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
We'll be in the East Wing.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
One could argue Mandy that the renovation is for the
stage that Bad Bunny will be performing on.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
That is not accurate. In the East wing. That is
not a thing that's happening. So what's on. You just
said it. You're the only source. I'm a source. You're
the source. You just said, I apologize. Source said, yeah, okay, okay,
let's move on. Many people have reached out about the
school board races. You guys. I spent a decent amount

(07:46):
of time this past weekend trying to look into some
of the smaller school board races. A lot of school
board races are uncontested, which means you don't have a choice.
And if that is your situation, you all find somebody
to run. And now, if it only had one choice,
I did no further looking because there was no point.
There's no point if you don't have any opposition. There's
no point in even studying the candidate that is going

(08:07):
to go on your school board. Now I did on
the blog today, I have my suggestions. None of these
are endorsements for the Jeff Code school board race, the
Doug Coet school board race, and the Denver school board race.
And you know what, I just realized I could add
Cherry Creek. I'll add Cherry Creek as well, because there
are two good candidates running for Cherry Creek schools, so

(08:29):
I'll add those today. It's tough to go back if
I don't know any of the players to choose school
board candidates in smaller districts. And I apologize for that.
I had no idea how difficult it would be. So
bad Buddy loves Zipper Merging. I had no idea. Now

(08:51):
I'm a huge back. A source says, though I said source,
A source says, bad Bundy. He loves Zuper Merging. Right
there on the text line, the Common Spirit Health text line.
By the way, you can text us at five sixty
six nine. Oh, as long as you don't text me
about bad money.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
He will Zipper emerge his way into the east wing
for his halftime performance.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Okay, moving on now. This story came out over the weekend,
and I wasn't gonna talk about it. But this the
reaction of the Internet. There's two things that if you're
on X you can search either of these things and
be entertained for days. Number One, chef Tom Colicio, who
I actually like, posted a photograph of himself and his

(09:36):
wife that said this is my wait, hang on, let
me just pull it up. Hang on, Yeah, the collechi Oh,
I'll have to look that up because I don't know
how to spell his last name. But he posted a
picture of himself and his wife and he says he's

(09:58):
standing in front of a fireplace, and he's said the
East Wing. I can't believe it's gone. Only the photo
wasn't from the East Wing, it was from a different
part of the White House. And the Internet has responded,
and they've responded just absolutely brilliantly. I mean brilliantly. They

(10:22):
have been making so much fun of him. And I
had no idea this guy was such a lefty and
I would have never paid attention to his Twitter feed
had I not seen this entire exchange. But now the
Internet is posting pictures of themselves in random places, like
in front of the Vatican. My wife and I'm in

(10:43):
the East Wing. I can't believe it's gone. At the beach,
my wife and I in the East Wing. I can't
believe it's gone. So that's one story that just took
off and has been entertained me. I mean, I can't
even tell you how entertained I've been by all of this.
Thevity in the mockery is really what impresses me. It's
not just like yo, mama, No, No, it's it's thoughtful.

(11:08):
It's high level mockery, really incredible stuff. But then this
story pops up, and I wasn't gonna talk about it
because it's so stupid. It's so stupid. But Gavin Newsom
has unveiled his black persona. Yeah, I know, I know that, Gavin. No, yeah,

(11:34):
you're right, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom with the
slick back hair and the dinners at the French laundry,
with the dad who at one point ran for the
US Senate before he went to work for the Getty
Family of you might have heard of them, the Getty
Oil Family, Getty Museum, and ringing a bell. He went
on an NBA podcast and he sat down with two

(11:59):
and I don't even know who these guys are. If
somebody said NBA podcast, I should have checked that, but
I didn't. But I'm hoping you can hear this because
you got to hear Gavin talk about being down with
the struggle, but.

Speaker 9 (12:11):
Also you know, it was also about paying the bills.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Man and it was just like hustling.

Speaker 9 (12:16):
And so I was out there kind of raising myself,
turning on the TV started, you know, just getting obsessed,
you know, sitting there with the you know, the wonderbread
and five stacks.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Of you know, now I'm want to stop it there.
Does anybody believe that Gavin Newsom grew up eating quote
mac and cheese and wonderbread. Just to help you understand
who Gavin Newsom actually is, he was featured in the

(12:51):
San Francisco Chronicle many many years ago in a story
that was titled Children of the Rich. Of the first
ten businesses that Gavin Newsom started, Getty the Getty family
funded nine of them. Now these are not like, you know,

(13:12):
a struggle kind of business. This was like a winery,
a liquor store. He was richy rich, and now he's
down with the struggle. Now, guys, here's what I genuinely wonder.
Do you think these guys on this podcast you went
right in, they leaned in, Oh you're just like us,
I mean it was. Do you think they are mad
today because of the just incredible blatant pandering that Gavin Newsom,

(13:38):
who grew up not with a silver spoon in his mouth,
but essentially a silver spoon in his mouth. It's insulting
and it's like, they don't think we have the internet.
I have a couple things where, honestly, I have a
story on the blog today. We're Nicole Wallace, who Nicole

(13:58):
Wallace is one of those people that I think if
I had a conversation with her about any significant issue
the entire time, in the back of my own mind,
my brain would be going, she can't really believe this,
can't she? I mean, she don't really think this, does she?
Because it's so detached for reality. And I have a
whole as a matter of fact, let me just go

(14:20):
to that right now, because it kind of goes along
with the they forget we have the internet too. Listen
to her talking to JB. Pritzker. It starts out with
Nicole Wallace and JB. Pritzker, then it goes to Nicole
Wallace with a whole bunch of other Democrats. But just listen,
I haven't suggested that Donald Trump is hitler.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 10 (14:40):
I don't think any Democrat has I actually and I
and I think it's a it's a smear that they
project back on to critics what is the natural extension
justin if he pursues this to Harvard and beyond.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
It was an authoritarian lead to several.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
Decades back, gold o Olf Hitler. Hitler came to power
and the scientists left.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
The military survive.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
In that climate the same way that it happened in
Russia with Stalin the same way it happened with Hitler. Eventually,
you get generals and admirals that are in there that
only tell the leader what he or she wants to hear.

Speaker 10 (15:15):
To the extent that the rule of law and an
assault on the rule of law was an obscure, intangible thing,
we're now seeing it in action.

Speaker 11 (15:22):
If you look back in history, you can see very
similar parallels taking place that took place in other countries
that really went down that authoritarian road, including in pre
World War II Nazi Germany, when Hitler and Nazi officials
basically took over Frankfort University, which was the bastion of
independent thoughts and progressive thinking and independent thinking, which is

(15:44):
what Hitler didn't want. And so again this is what
authoritarians do. They try to control all of the aspects
of social life.

Speaker 12 (15:52):
When Trump talks about peace and putin talks about peace.
It's autocrats getting their way, that's it. And MUSLINI and
Hitler said they were being the purveyors of peace.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
I resisted for a long time analogies to Hitler's Germany.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I've got in my sub stack today though, that it's really.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I'm canny the same episode where Hitler.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Now that sound bite goes on. I could continue to
let it play, but I'm not, because it's just it's tired.
It's tiresome, but just in case, because it started out
with with Nicole Wallace and JB. Pritsker, the governor of
Illinois who is going to be running for president against
Gavin Newsom, the other clown. It started out by JB.
Prisker saying, oh, I suggested that Trump is Hitler. I'll

(16:38):
let you hear that sound bite from him, And then
Lives of TikTok managed to find a few times where
maybe he did just that. I haven't suggested that Donald
Trump is Hitler.

Speaker 13 (16:48):
The dangers that we saw uh in you know, Nazi
Germany are the dangers that we need to react to.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Now.

Speaker 13 (16:56):
Well, I think everybody understands that at this point point
we've got an authoritarian in office, It doesn't take very
long to tear apart a constitutional republic.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Indeed, the Nazis did it in fifty three days.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's not the country we live.

Speaker 13 (17:11):
In, you know. You shouldn't have to walk around papers
the way that they did in the early days of
Nazi Germany. I do not invoke the specter of Nazis lightly.
I'm watching with a foreboding dread what is happening in
our country right now. A president who watches a plane
go down in the Potomac and suggests, without facts or
findings that a diversity higher is responsible for the crash.

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The authoritarian playbook is laid bare here.

Speaker 9 (17:39):
How can you possibly compare what happened in Germany and
World War Two to what's going on here in the
United States.

Speaker 13 (17:45):
Well, we're talking about the death of a constitutional republic.
That's what happened in Germany in nineteen thirty three, nineteen
thirty four.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
None of them have ever compared Trump to Hitler in
any way, shape or form. The reason I play that
is because it's just like, just like Gavin Newsom goes
on this NBA podcast, and whoever these guys are. This
demonstrates why you have to do a little rudimentary checking
on the guests that you're about to have on the show.
If you're gonna have a guy who's gonna run for president,
it's clear that Gavin Newsom is running for president, you

(18:17):
better have some kind of understanding of their background. Why
didn't these guys, Hey, your dad work for Getty Oil.
They work for the Getty family. They funded the first
nine of your ten businesses. Yeah, you were really down
with the struggle. I don't understand why this is not annoying,
and maybe it is. Is this annoying to these guys

(18:38):
now that they've been played? This is very reminiscent of
Hilary of Hillary in the Baptist Church. You guys, do
you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 13 (18:49):
That was a.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Magical, magical SoundBite. I think I'm gonna have to go
back and find that. But Democrats never get called out
for pretending. Democrats never get called out from, you know,
kind of doing what they think people like that do.
I saw an interesting study years ago. I should find it,
because someone's gonna ask me to find it after I
talk about it. It showed that conservative people, when they

(19:12):
spoke to people of a different race, didn't change the
way they spoke, but liberal people would dumb down their
language when speaking to a person of another race. Now
is that openly racist, No, but it does it demonstrate
their feelings of superiority, and in making a double effort
to not make someone feel stupid, they pretty much expose

(19:35):
themselves as thinking that other person is stupid. It all
goes in one first says this Texter, which party is
more authoritarian? And do any of these people really know
what fascism is? That is a great question, one that
I will answer in the next segment. Because an interesting
thing happened in the Libertarian Party of Colorado. I did

(19:55):
not hear the whole interview that Ross just did with
a new president, but the outgoing president, a woman named
Hannah Goodman, who I've seen many times at political events,
has now gone from the Libertarian Party, which is supposed
to be liberty minded, liberty focused, to become a Democrat.
I'm cynical about this move, and I'll explain to you,

(20:18):
in my view what might have been some of the thinking.
But really I want to ask the bigger question, if
you are a libertarian, could you possibly become a registered Democrat?
Because I'm going to tell you the truth. I've been
a registered Libertarian, I've been a registered Republican, I've been
a registered unaffiliated voter, and I have never been a

(20:39):
Democrat because those things in my mind can't go together.
So before the break, I mentioned that the former head
of the Colorado Libertarian Party a woman named Hannah Goodman,
and I want to be clear, I have no beef
with Hannah as a human being. All of my interactions
with her have been extremely pleasant. Again, I've never had

(21:00):
an issue with her and don't intend on having an
issue going forward. But I was really shocked to see
her announce on X the following She said, it seems
I always take the road less traveled or the hardest
way to do something, But here goes I've joined the
Colorado Dems. And then she goes on to talk about
her family's roots running deep, the same story that I

(21:22):
heard her tell as a Libertarian candidate for things, and
then she says the Democrats have really lost the plot
over the years, from going to having amazing fiscal policy
that balance budgets all come back to that in a moment,
to being against the nanny state overreach in the nineties,
as Republicans sought to cripple our freedom, freedom to have

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what I mean. Tipper Gore was leading the charge to
since her rap music. We'll come back to that later,
she said, to placing critical theory on all kinds, all
over their rights they fought to preserve, entering the radical
left wing agenda we all suffer on today, she says,
Join me in pushing Dems toward common sense, not mandates sounds,

(22:09):
fiscal policy not unlimited spending, Uniting people against corporatism, not
divisive critical theory. Rural votes matter, and so far as
I can see, I'm the only one who would know
how to reach these voters. Let's build a party that
honors our past and secured blah blah blah blah blah.
Then she finishes it with this. If you can't beat them,

(22:30):
join them and change him. Okay, Now, as I said,
I have no ill will towards Hannah at all.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
None.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Never had an unpleasant exchange with the woman, always been
very pleasant. But I gotta tell you the first thing
I thought of today, and I would have thought this
had I ever met Hannah or not. This is to
me what it looks like. It looks like Hannah went
to the Libertarian Party maybe that was a principled stance.

(23:02):
Maybe it was I don't know, but the Libertarian party
is a hot mess, and if you are willing to
step up into a leadership position in a libertarian party,
most of the time you're gonna get it because nobody
else really wants to be bothered with doing the actual work.
No offense libertarians, but as a former registered libertarian myself
who's actually gone to the meetings, I can assure you
that's true. Then finding out after she was the Libertarian

(23:26):
candidate for I think at least two offices that I'm
aware of, Hannah Goodman ran. Let's see, she's run for
several things here. She ran for Congress twice, and as
the Libertarian candidate in the fourth congressional district, that's how

(23:47):
I met her. Lost badly. She did get five percent
of the vote. Now in that district. This is from
twenty twenty four. Go back and look at that. That's
a special election. So Annah ran as a libertarian, found
out she cannot win anything as a libertarian and now
is looking for a place where she can possibly win

(24:12):
by being the candidate because no one else wants to
run and saying she's going to change the Democratic Party.
I'm sorry, I just don't think that that's going to happen.
Why not change the Libertarian Party into a party that
wants to win? How about that? How about change the
Libertarian Party into a party that mobilizes young people so

(24:34):
they stay Libertarians. How about that? I just because and
part of the reasons I'm so skeptical of this particular move.
If she'd said I'm becoming an unaffiliated voter or I'm
becoming a Republican you know, that would have been one thing,
because the Republican Party does not align with everything the
Libertarian Party stands for. They're obviously much more liberal when

(24:55):
it comes to social policies than the Republican Party is.
But how in the world, in this state, and Hannah
Goodman knows how this state operates under democratic rule, how
in the world can you, as a person who has
been talking about liberty for so many years, align yourself
with a party that has done nothing but erode the

(25:16):
freedoms of the people in Colorado for the last six years.
Whether we're talking about gun control, now we're talking about
force zoning changes. I can't even get a dang plastic
bag in this state. Oh a business owner wants to
pay what they think an employee is worth. Nope, sorry,
we're gonna jack up your minimum wage. Oh you're a landlord,

(25:38):
let's slap all manner of regulations on you to make
rents go up. Hey, you're an insurance company. You've got
to pay for boob jobs for guys who decide they're women.
There's nothing libertarian in any part of the Democratic Party,
our governor included. So this to me just smacks of convenience,
and I find it very interesting that she starts out

(26:00):
to say, Oh, this is the hardest way to do something. No,
it's really not. It really isn't. So yeah, Mandy KOA
radio hosts Rick Barber self identified as a libertarian and
regularly brought the leader of the Colorado Libertarian Party on
his show. One of the topics Barber and the Libertarian
Party discussed and supported was Obamacare and single payer health insurance.

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I once tried on calling myself a libertarian, but once
I heard Barber and the party support single payer, along
with other libertarians calling for open borders and privatizing national
lands and legalizing illegal drugs, I realized there was no
way I would consider myself a libertarian that single payer
healthcare is not a libertarian position. It is not, not

(26:47):
even remotely. There's a million other ways to solve that problem, Mandy.
The Libertarian Party definitely leans more left now, Yeah, Mandy,
is there a bill to shut down the federal government permanently?
Hear me out. The Republicans want smaller government, and Democrats
hate the current one. Let us shut down and do

(27:08):
things more locally. I'm all for it. But you know
what's happening, you guys, so much more spending is automatic
that it's still going on. We're still blowing through mountains
of cash right now. I do think it's super interesting
what's happening in the state of Colorado right now. I
want you to be clear. I looked it up this morning.
The number of people who are going to be hit

(27:31):
with the loss of the extended Obamacare subsidies in the
state of Colorado is thirty two thousand, thirty two thousand people. Now,
when you see an article and I have it on
the blog today to the Denverges that add a story
health insurance premiums to double, No, that's not what's happening.

(27:53):
What's happening is you being able to force the taxpayer
meaning a rod meaning everybody else who pays taxes and
isn't getting a subsidy. You're forcing us to pay and
subsidize for your health insurance instead of you footing the bill.
That's what that means. Premiums are not rising, but the
taxpayers will not be paying yours for thirty two thousand people. Now,

(28:13):
we heard earlier on this show we have about fifty
five thousand federal workers in Colorado who are without a paycheck.
We have what did we find out eight hundred thousand
or some crazy number like that of people who get
some kind of snap benefit. Maybe it was two hundred thousand.
Let's make it two hundred thousand for the sake of argument.
So Democrats are keeping the government shut down because thirty

(28:35):
two thousand people in Colorado are not getting taxpayers to
fut the bill for their health insurance. And that is
why John Hickenlooper and Michael Bennett are not voting to
reopen the government, because they'll tell you that's what it is. Right,
It's like, oh, we gotta stop there rise of these
We'll ask them exactly how many people that affects. Now,
ask them how many federal workers. Do we have how

(28:55):
many people who get Snap benefits in Colorado? Do the math?
Do the math? And today the Republicans voted again to
open up the government and our two senators voted to
keep it shut down. You know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna find the numbers of Michael Bennett and John Hicketlooper.
I'll share those with you. We'll be on the blog soon.

(29:17):
We'll be right back hot a story on the blog yesterday.
By the way, I'm just looking for the DC number
for John Hickett Looper. I'll have him on the blog
in just a minute. I'll have that taken care of
the top of the hour break And several of you
have tweeted or tweeted, texted at us what you can
do at five six sixth I know, Mandy, I'm seeing

(29:37):
chatter on social media about unrest, looting, et cetera. Starting
on Saturday the first by EBT and Snap recipients. Also
saw a rumor that's been dispelled about Walmart being closed
in online only November one. Does Mandy think all hell
is going to break loose with the hood rat folks, Well,

(29:58):
I think that it is unfortunate that people have taken
to social media to announce their plans to loot a Walmart.
And if I'm a large grosser, I'm going to hire
extra security just to be sure. I think a vast
majority of people who get Snap benefits are not going
to be looting or do anything like that. I don't know,

(30:20):
I don't know. I don't understand that mentality. Do you
realize what's going on? What's so fascinating to watch with
some of the people that are angry. They never lash
out at the politicians. They're lashing out at Walmart. We're
gonna go steal Walmart. We're gonna go rob Walmart. What
the heck does Walmart have to do with it? It

(30:40):
never occurs to them to ask. It never occurs to
them to say, well, maybe I should be responsible for myself.
They're incredibly happy to have a master in the federal government.
And I don't mean that as a racist thing, because
there are white people who are on Snap benefits generationally
as well. If you are on any kind of entitlement program,

(31:01):
you are by definition at the mercy of whoever is
paying your bills, and that's a form of slavery. If
you're relying on someone without some kind of reciprocal agreement,
you know, to take care of your life, you are
a slave to whoever is in charge of that. There's

(31:21):
a school of thought, and it's kind of a Dave
Ramsey thing, although he doesn't quite say it, like like
slavery is a form of or a debt is a
form of slavery, because when you owe somebody something, they
can take something away from you to get it back, right, Well,
entitlement and entitlement mentality is the same thing. If you
are dependent on someone for your basic life necessities, then

(31:44):
you have just accepted a new master. And I'm not
saying you deserve whatever you get, but do a little introspection.
I mean, if you get to a point where you're
crying because you don't know how you're gonna be able
to feed your kids because of a government shutdown, does
that make you at all revalue wait the job you're
doing as a parent, because there's a zero percent chance

(32:04):
I would allow myself to remain in that situation going forward.
But I'm just you know, we all have our different thing.
Did a rod scare anybody at the car wash thing?
I haven't heard anything from it. I don't know what
it was. Then, how did you just set that text?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Text her?

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Absolutely I did. I'm the goat of scaring, I realize
and I say this. You know I was gonna say
this humbly, but no, I've put in some work. I
my buddy Dan, so he had never done anything like
that before, never dine on a house, never been a scacter,
which I really like, by the way, scare acter scacter.
I realized in my teaching of him how much I
really have studied and have practiced in being a scacter

(32:44):
because I taught him all the.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Ways of the force.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Right, So like you have to read the room, you
have to make a read in like two seconds, right,
whether that person wants to be scared the way you
want to scare them. If they're kids and they're crying,
you're not going to scare them as much as a
high school jock.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's nugety geeks scared. There's levels of scary.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
There's there's what you do, there's how you make people
also laugh, Like I did the six seven.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Meme with like every single car and the kids. The
kids loved it.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Like I had two lines of cars coming on you right,
two different directions. I will go to the left. Are
you gonna come look to the right? Are you gonna
come left?

Speaker 8 (33:18):
Right?

Speaker 3 (33:18):
And then it'll go I don't know.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
It's one all the kids in the car I'm doing
he's doing a six seven dang, Oh my god, now
wait a a rod.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I do that to my daughter the six seventhecause she's like, mom,
that's not a thing. No one does that.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
I'm like, okay, later today, tell your tell her you're
in group Seven's that's the next one.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I'm in group seven. Yeah, apparently that's the What does
that mean? I have no idea. No one even knows.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Yeah, group seven. I will say. For those that are
maybe my age, we had it in school.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Where did you have it?

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Was well like where you lost the game? Oh you
lost the game. You thought of the game.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
There was no meaning behind it, but someone would just say,
did you lose the game?

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Meant meant things you said? Tell tell the Q you're
in group seven. You will get me the biggest iron.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Sometimes she rolls her eyes at me so hard I
think they're never coming back. When we get back, they
just say, well, then are you in group six? And
then we're six? I got a I did an interview
on Sunday from my deathbed with Professor Eric Kaufman because
he's in the United Kingdom and it's fascinating. It's about
his assertion that fewer young people are identifying as trance.

(34:29):
We'll play that right after this on KOA.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
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Speaker 2 (34:37):
No, it's Mandy Connell on KOA.

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Speaker 3 (34:47):
Goya say they Connell, Keith sad Thing, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome
to the at that hour of the show. And a
couple of weeks ago on X there was a kerfuffle
that broke out after a professor named Eric Kaufman posted

(35:10):
a tweet about an article he did for Unheard dot
com and in the article he asserts that trans identification
among young people especially is dropping. Now, this was a
statistical analysis and it created quite the food for all,
and it took me two weeks to kind of pin
down our schedules because he is in the UK in London,

(35:32):
and I of course am in Denver, Colorado. But this
weekend we were able to connect and this is our
chat with Professor Eric Kaufman. Hey, everybody, so last week,
I read an article at unheard dot com by a
guy named Eric Kaufman. He's a professor, and he wrote
a I mean, a tweet that he probably thought was
like every other tweet he sent out, and it had

(35:54):
to do with the rate of trans or non binary
identification falling in this country. I'm guessing that he was
not expecting it to catch fire like it did and
created so much debate on X and I have to say,
not just your a duty head debate, like real legitimate
debate back and forth about the veracity of this information

(36:16):
and how you interpreted it and all of this stuff.
But I decided to reach out and Professor Eric Kaffman
joins me now to talk about First of all, let's
start with the data and then I don't want to
get too far into the weeds about the statistical stuff
because it's kind of boring for the radio. I'm not
gonna not gonna lie, and I'm gonna share your substack
that you did on the data analysis so people can

(36:38):
do a deeper dive if they want on my blog
so they can link to it there. But first of all,
Professor Coffman, wait, welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (36:44):
Great to be here, Mandy, and I'm joining you from England.

Speaker 14 (36:48):
I'm Canadian originally, but I've lived in London a long time.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Well, welcome to Denver. It's lovely here right now, as
I'm sure it might not be in London today, but
we'll find out. First of all, give my audience it's
a little bit of your background, so we have an
idea where you're coming from on this.

Speaker 8 (37:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (37:05):
I'm a professor of politics or political science at the
University of Buckingham here in England, and I'm a social scientist.
I'm very interested in exploring questions that are in some
ways difficult to explore amongst mainstream academics, and so I
have a center at Buckingham which has some sort of

(37:26):
free speech tradition for heterodox social science.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
I've been interested also.

Speaker 14 (37:34):
I'm a quantitative data analyst, and I'm always interested in
the latest wave from the Foundation for Individual Rights and
Expressions annual undergraduate surveys, which are absolutely massive they reach.
The last wave was almost seventy thousand undergraduates, mainly aged
eighteen to twenty two, across two hundred and fifty of
the mainly higher ranking universities in the US and I

(37:57):
also look at some other surveys that are smaller but
where most of the target audience or a large chunk
of it is is captured by the surveys, which isn't
usual for surveys.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
And I was just comparing these three sources.

Speaker 14 (38:12):
And I have had an interest in cultural trends among
young people for a long time, like Gene Twenge, who
of course sort of came in after my tweets and
found something very similar. The long and the short of
it is, I sort of noticed that while there was
this very pronounced rise and fall, particularly this decline pattern

(38:33):
in the share of young people who say they are
neither male nor female, that is identifying as non binary,
and that has dropped in half more or less in
this massive sample of over fifty thousand a year from
the fire data, but also in the smaller but higher

(38:54):
targeted where you're getting a higher share of your target pool.
So the Endover Phillips Elite Prep High School near Boston,
and then the University Brown University student surveys, they're.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
All saying the same thing, telling the same.

Speaker 14 (39:07):
Story, which was of a dramatic decline in non binary identification.
Now we can come into this question of the relationship
doing trans and non binary, which is I would argue
very close.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
But that's a whole other question.

Speaker 14 (39:22):
I think it's arguing more or less that trans has
declined a lot amongst young people.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Well, it's interesting because the Andover is obviously a very
elite prep school, and then you have Brown that's not
exactly a slouchy university. And in my experience, and maybe
you have not observed this, or perhaps you have children
of high achieving parents seem to have these trans identities
at a much higher rate. Look at Hollywood. You have

(39:49):
Hollywood actresses who say all four of their children are trans,
which is statistically ridiculous. But that's where we are, right,
I mean, so it seemed to me that the surveys
and andover and may hold more weight just from my
own observations. In my mind, because you're dealing with the
children mostly of elites, this does not seem to be
a problem for people in poverty who are worried about

(40:12):
how they're going to eat the next day.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
Yeah, I think, well, I don't know, it's not as
clear a cut as that, because I mean, you're right
that the political trendiness of these things tends to break
on the elite campuses and prep schools first, however, it
is quite astounding to see that in fact trans and

(40:35):
also queer sexuality or bisexuality of nonconformists, so in other words,
not gay or straight, but these other sexualities.

Speaker 14 (40:45):
I mean, they've gone through the same rise and fall
pattern in the data. Doesn't seem as though the elite
are experiencing this more than people from a lower social
class background. So it looks as though this is coming
cutting across all class and in fact, a lot of
the data even shows it's somewhat more likely from a

(41:06):
lower class background that you will identify relay. Yeah, which
surprised me, but it is really striking, and it's there
also for bisexual and queer, and so it's I don't
think this is just an upper class phenomenon.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
No, well, I would use I have a sixteen year
old daughter and at her high school, we're in an
upper you know, we're in a more affluent school district,
and a lot of her friends are from more affluent families.
Not all, you know, for sure, but every one of
my daughter's friends identify somewhere on the queer spectrum right now.

(41:41):
None of them are actually engaging in same sex relationships,
but they identify on the queer spectrum because it's celebrated
in schools. And if you want to be part of
the in crowd, then you've got to have some kind
of rainbow stripe. Right, You can't just be a normal kid.
So I would be thrilled because I just think it's
it's lenging to be a teenager anyway.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
It was challenging when you were a teenager, challenging when
I was, And now we have thrown this gender sexuality
stew at these kids and forcing them to sort of
stake a claim in order to belong instead of it
being authentic, right, And I think it's damaging, honestly to
the gay movement.

Speaker 8 (42:21):
Oh, I totally agree with you on that.

Speaker 14 (42:23):
And there are more and more gay people who are
really upset about trends and also particularly the surgery aspect
and kind of fixing, so called fixing kids who are.

Speaker 8 (42:34):
Gay, making them making them a different sex.

Speaker 14 (42:37):
But I think that where I think what I think
is going on is certainly those who identify as politically
liberal or ideologically liberal are more considerably more likely to
identify as trends and queer. So I think what I
would say is where you have a school environment that
is very kind of liberal, there you're going to get
higher identification. So I think that's the big difference, not

(43:01):
so much the class background. So you could have somebody
who's from a you know, whose family is relatively poor,
the father is a librarian, and the mother maybe works
in the post I don't know, But as long as
they're liberal, there's going to be a higher chance that,
you know, the kid identifies as trans or queer or
one of these other identities. So yeah, that does seem

(43:24):
to be a pattern. But what is really interesting I thought,
and one thing I think that's occurred. You know, when
these things came off social media and off campus in
the twenty tens mid twenty tens, you had everybody talking
about trans and queer at the same time as they
were talking.

Speaker 8 (43:40):
About you know, white privilege. Yeah, some of the woke terminology.

Speaker 14 (43:44):
What seems to happen have happened to over is these
things have now decoupled to a certain extent. So for example,
whether we look at red state campuses or blue state campuses,
they show the same trend.

Speaker 8 (43:56):
I mean, blue state campuses.

Speaker 14 (43:58):
And in fact, liberal as a whole were more likely
to identify as trends or queer, so they were always
higher than the conservatives, but there was a certain level
of it even amongst conservative students and even on red
state campuses, And in both cases we've seen a big
drop off. So on the bluest of blue campuses, the Oberlins,
you know, there's been a massive decline in you know,

(44:21):
like twenty point decline in the share of non binary
at Oberlin in the last two years. So even in
these very very liberal environments, it's become a lot less fashionable.

Speaker 8 (44:32):
So I don't think it's connected necessarily.

Speaker 14 (44:36):
To political shifts, even though you're right that somebody who
comes from a more liberal background is going to be
more likely to identify this way.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
I've been speculating about why this drop might have occurred.
I've been spitballing myself since I read your tweet, and
I think there's maybe a few things in motion here.
One is that fads rise and fides FAD's fade, right,
so that's I think that's a choke of it. But
I also think that the amount of information that is
getting out now by d transitioners who are talking about

(45:04):
the permanent long lifelong effects that they are now dealing
with because of their transitions, their medical transitions. I do
think people are more knowledgeable about what the negative ramifications
could be and it doesn't seem like, yeah, I can
get a piercing and it'll close up. You know, it's
far different now and I do think that that may
be sort of factoring into it. Have you done any

(45:26):
sort of introspection about why you think this is?

Speaker 8 (45:29):
Yeah, I mean it's really difficult.

Speaker 14 (45:31):
One thing we know is that over the last two
three years, public opinion has turned against the transactivist position
that people born males should have access to women's sports
and women's spaces and you know, gender surgery for reminders
and all of that stuff has become less popular and
substantially less popular, and that's true in Britain's well, and

(45:53):
so there's been a turn against in public opinion, including
amongst young people. Now, what is not so clear, it's
hard to know, is that part of the same trend
that is, because it's become you know, politically less popular
to advocate for the transactivist position and gender ideology, has
that had a knock on effect on how people identify,

(46:16):
how young people identify. I mean, that could be what's
going on. Gene Twinkie's analysis was quite interesting because she
did this, I mean, I also looked at generations and
found the same pattern that the youngest generation were less
trands than the older let's just say, the older gen
Zers who are aged twenty two, the seniors were a
bit more likely to identify as trands than the freshmen.

(46:37):
She found the same thing even more dramatically. So it
seems like the newest, the youngest people, newest generation, if
you want to call it, that are falling away from
this more so. But I think it looks to me
like a fashion that's kind of gone out of It's
gone out of fashion. Exactly why that is is very
difficult for me, because it doesn't look like these people

(47:00):
are moving to the right, are becoming more religious necessarily,
but they've they've stepped away from the non conforming gender
and sexual identities to a large extent.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
And that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I got to tell you, I I you know, we
talk a lot about this, and I am one of
those people who is loud and verbal about not saying
that children should not have access to these surgeries. And
to me, it's incredibly sad because, as I've been saying
for years, part of this is a fad. Part of
this is social contagient. I absolutely believe that part of

(47:32):
this is social contagion, but it is going to have
lifelong negative impacts on people who are just struggling with
their mental health. And that's not to say trans people
don't exist, That's not what I'm saying at all. But
I'm saying that we swept up all of these other
people who just needed therapy and a lot of it
and maybe some help and assistance to to sort of

(47:54):
bring their their you know, disconcerted nature together, and we've
medicalized people, and I find that very depressing. I do
want to ask you something that's not directly about this story,
but what must it be like to find out that
you're a right wing professor after a tweet gets six
million views and people are coming to attack you because

(48:16):
they don't like the outcome of your data.

Speaker 14 (48:20):
Well, Mandy, I have to say, because I aren't kind
of already out as more or less a conservative professor,
I've been used to this kind of thing in in
my previous university. I got it pretty heavily during the
Greater Wokening so that on its own doesn't really bother
me too much. It was interesting to see the hit

(48:40):
pieces in the attack lines and then to see that
once the sort of attack lines seemed to not be
working where the pivot was. So one of the pivots was, okay,
they tried to go after me for you know, not
using the statistical tool of waiting my data. Now, once
that looked the guy, the person who sort of attacked
me for that, once their sort of graphs were looked

(49:03):
at more closely, it was obvious that that attack line
wasn't going to work. One of the other pivots, however,
is to say, oh, well, but the reason this is
happening is because of DeSantis and Trump and you know
the discrimination. Yeah, it's creating a hostile environment for people
to be trans. So they're back in the closet again

(49:23):
and that's what's going on, and it's not about the fashion.
And that kind of prompted me to sort of do
another tweet thread where I kind of said, you know,
it is kind of interesting because if you look at
this fire data, people who identify as non binary are
actually more open about they feel freer to talk about
transgender issues than everybody else, and especially conservatives, they self

(49:48):
censor less than the average student.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
There's absolutely no evidence.

Speaker 14 (49:53):
That there was a major shift in twenty between twenty
twenty four and twenty and twenty five.

Speaker 8 (49:57):
It was just a continuation of what was going on before.

Speaker 14 (50:00):
So effectively, there's zero evidence that there's a chillier climate
to be trends on campus, you know, on these very liberal. Overall,
the average campus is about five you know, fifty percent
liberal twenty percent conservative.

Speaker 8 (50:14):
So I think that argument really doesn't hold water at all.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Professor Eric Kaufman teaches at the University at Birmingham. I
saw the greatest bar fight of my life in Birmingham
one time, playing at a snooker hall. It was quite
spectacular and just like you'd see in the movie. So
I hope you get to see your your bar fight
soon in Birmingham, maybe not at the university. Professor Kaufman,
thank you so much for the time. I'm sharing both

(50:38):
the sub stack that you did sort of to address
these statistical accusations, because as I said, it's it's very dense.
No way we could translate that on the radio, but
it's easy to read if you want to understand kind
of a deeper dive of what Professor Kaufman was talking about.
And I'll also share your X handle so people can
follow you on x as well, because there's a lot
of good information there. But I very much appreciate your

(51:00):
time today, Mandy.

Speaker 8 (51:02):
It's been a pleasure. Thanks very much.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
That was from Sunday and you guys, I'm so embarrassed.
He teaches at the University of Buckingham. Yeah, not Birmingham.
And he was so gracious to not correct me while
we were recording, and I was like, no, I'll correct
myself on the air because it's just on brand from me.
Even in my defense, I was still very sick, very
very sick this text or asked a pretty good question.

(51:26):
I didn't think about it. Mandy. I know that this
is a recording, but can he get into trouble for
speaking like this in England? I would be concerned. But
the thing about what he says is he's not offering
any kind of opinion on the data. And if you
read both the article and Unheard and then read a substack,
it is very much a data driven conversation. The real

(51:48):
issue came about, as we touched on very briefly about
whether or not he was waiting in a traditional statistical
sense things a certain way, But if you read the substack,
you see that once they wait, it's all like statistical gobblygooks.
They're not attacking him necessarily on what he's saying. What
they're attacking him on is that he's assuming that transgender

(52:09):
people would identify as non binary, even though within the
community that is under the umbrella of non binary that's
where trans people go. So it's a lot of like
crunchy stuff like that. But I think his data analysis
is correct, and I do think that there's a few
reasons for it, but not the least of which is

(52:31):
the sort of blowback has gotten to the point where
I think parents are having more conversations with their kids too, like,
let's talk about this. Just because you're uncomfortable in your
own body for a while, and that's so normal for
every teenager. It doesn't mean you were born in the
wrong body, just means that you've got to get through
the teen years. Can you guys remember now, I have

(52:53):
a sixteen year old daughter, so I am I am
up close and personal for the teen years, but watching
her go through the same sort of nonsense that I did,
only now with technology. It's like it's the same. Human
behavior has not evolved very much at all. People still
find ways to be horrible. They're just more creative in

(53:17):
using the means of today to do it. It's the
same kind of human behavior exists this texturess. Is there
any differentiation between gender identification and the actual gender of
the young person? I'd say yes. It could be a
kid who is a female could say well, I feel
I feel like I'm a male. It doesn't make them

(53:37):
a male. It just means that, for whatever reason, they've
decided that whatever they're feeling isn't like a female. I've
only had the opportunity to ask one young person who
had decided they were transgender what exactly it feels like
to be a woman, and they had absolutely no way

(53:58):
to explain it. And I was like, huh, well, maybe
it's because there's no right way to be a woman
and no right way to be a man, and maybe
we should all just be ourselves and go about life.
I mean, it's worked pretty well up to this point.
When we get back, I have now added Hickeenlooper and

(54:20):
Bennett's phone numbers to the blog. I'm going to tell
you why and how I want you to call them
when we get back. I got a couple numbers on
the blog now. So there's a couple of things happening
right now with the government shutdown, and one of them,
I'm gonna be perfectly frank, I'm gonna admit I don't
know how this thing ends now because the Democrats have

(54:41):
painted themselves into a corner. They have their base so
riled up with these artificially ginned up No Kings Rallies.
You guys, are the No King's Rallies are anything but grassroots.
They are so well funded by left wing billionaires, which
is hilarious when you think that these people people are
coming out against the oligarchy in a march that is

(55:03):
paid for by the oligarchy. It's really it's too funny
to even check. It really really is very very entertaining. Well,
we've got a situation in Colorado where we have fifty
five thousand federal workers who are not getting paid. We
have six hundred thousand people getting some kind of snap
benefits to help feed their families that are not getting

(55:24):
their checks, and Democrats are fighting to maintain taxpayer subsidies
for about thirty two thousand people, some of make some
of whom make four hundred that four hundred percent of
the poverty line, right, So they're shutting down the government
to look out for the small percentage of people in

(55:47):
Colorado who get taxpayer subsidies while being over what was
initially established by Obamacare as the income limits. That's an
important thing to remember. When Obamacare first passed, they lower
the limits for the subsidies before they could get the
thing over the finish line. But as soon as COVID hit,
one of the first things Biden did was expand the

(56:08):
requirements for people to access Obamacare benefits. And that expansion
was created by Democrats. I wonder it take you to
a tweet that was sent out by Representative Jason Crow.
Jason Crow sent out this tweet, and he sent it
out on a tweet that was sent out about Speaker

(56:31):
of the House Mike Johnston. Representative Jason Crowe set this out.
Let's get the facts straight. Republicans created a healthcare crisis.
Trump cut Medicaid premiums are skyrocketing. Instead of holding a
daily press conference, how about Speaker Johnson opens Congress and
gets back to work. Let me let me fix that

(56:55):
for you, congressman. Let me just let me just get that.
I'll just make some changes here when we do a
little editing on the fly. So I posted, let's get
the fat straight. Democrats pass this Obamacare expansion with no
Republican votes, with a sunset provision in the bill. They

(57:16):
knew the benefits would run out in twenty twenty five,
and that's where we are now. The benefits, by the way,
have only been around since twenty twenty two. That's part
number one. I already fixed that, he said, Trump cuts medicaid.
I posted, able bodied people without dependents should be working
to get benefits. That's I was going to lead with

(57:38):
polis cut Medicaid more, but I figured I'd keep it
on the federal level. And then premiums are skyrocketing. So
I fixed that with premiums our skyrocketing because Obamacare, which
only Democrats voted for, has made everything more expensive, and
it doesn't work without demanding other taxpayers put the bill
with subsidies a little more accurate, just a little more.

(58:03):
So the Democrats have created this government shutdown fighting to
maintain the expansion of those expanded Obamacare benefits. Why is
that important to them, Well, it's important to them because
Obamacare is working exactly as it was designed to work,
which is it was designed to work so that things
would get so ridiculously expensive and unwieldy that people would

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beg for single payer. That's what Obamacare was designed to do.
And I can say that with complete certainty. I read
the whole dang bill. I used to be a licensed
insurance agent, and back in two thousand and eight when
this monstrosity passed, I told my audience in Florida, there
is not a single lever in this bill to control
the cost of health care. That's it. The only thing

(58:46):
it did was put limits on how much health insurance
companies could spend on administration and how much they're legally
allowed to keep in profit. That's all it did. It
did nothing to address the underlying issues in healthcare, which
if you heard my interview with Steve Moore yesterday, you
know their answers. There are solutions out there that could
immediately change the game and start driving costs down immediately,

(59:10):
and many of them are illegal because of the stuff
in the Obamacare bill. So there's ways to bring it down.
But the Democrats did none of them. Just to revisit
one more time, Obamacare was passed without a single Republican vote.
The Obamacare expansion during COVID was passed by Democrats only
knowing it had a sunset provision that was coming due

(59:33):
in twenty twenty five. And now the Democrats have decided
that getting those people keeping those expanded subsidies is worth
not paying people who get food stamps, not paying federal employees. Guys,
we're coming up to some of the biggest travel days
of the year in the Thanksgiving holiday. If this thing
isn't sorted by, then you think air travels normally just

(59:55):
a pain in the you know what, it's going to
be out of control pain in the you know what.
So you know, I don't love government spending. I think
what we're doing by to be clear, the force, someone
says me a Texas is mandy. At least the government's
shut down spending get can you Oh, spending is continuing
because so much of our spending is automatic that it

(01:00:16):
really doesn't matter. It just doesn't. We're still like spending
like drunken monkeys. It's not that the Republicans are trying
to cut a significant portion of the budget. They're trying
to cut some, but we're still spending one point six
trillion dollars a year, a year more than we're taking in.

(01:00:39):
Until Congress gets serious, we're in a horrible financial situation.
But right now, I'm worried about people that aren't going
to be able to eat. I'm worried about people not
showing up for their air traffic control jobs when Americans
are trying to travel to see their family. And I
just don't see a way out of this for Democrats. Now,
what's being talked about right now is we're Republicans should

(01:01:00):
just nuke the filibuster, just do away with the filibuster rule,
and they could just pass it on a simple majority,
which they could do. They have fifty three seats. They
could do it. But then at some point in the
future when the Republicans are in the minority again, and
they will be because that's the way this goes, they
will then lose the ability to filibuster bad business by

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the Democrats. This is exactly, you guys, what Harry Reid
did back in the day when he blew up the
filibuster when it came to judge approvals, right Harry Reid
decided he would rather get his judges approved that have
the ability to filibuster a judge in the future, and
that's why we have three conservative Supreme Court justices that
we have right now that Trump is appointed, so it

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has long lasting ramifications. And I don't think the Democrats
really want to do away with a filibuster either, because
it completely eliminates them having any power going forward for
the rest of the Trump administration. So there's no easy
answer here. And now Democrats are scared to death of
their base from the Astro Turf No King's rallies that

(01:02:03):
have been popping up and all of these rich white
liberals telling because they don't know any government workers or
people on food stamps, so they don't care how long
it lasts. They don't care. Do you guys have any ideas?
Does anybody have any like, how can you save face
and get yourself out of this? If you're the Democrats

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and if you're the Republicans, do you really have any
desire to let them out of this? Because right now
the media is blaming the Democrats one hundred percent. Mandy,
I believe the Dems are pushing the Republicans to the
nuclear option, so that they can push through whatever they
want when they hold power, exactly so, in order to

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prevent that, I made it easy for you, guys. I
put the phone numbers of both John Hickenlooper and Michael
Bennett's DC and Colorado offices on my blog today. And
if you'll notice, in bold right above the numbers, it says,
be polite, Be polite, Be polite. Phone calls to your
US senator on an issue like this matter. If you

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get enough people calling numbers, get attention. So if you
can call both offices DC and here in Colorado, politely
tell the people on the other end of the line
that you think it's ridiculous that our senators will not
reopen the government to protect a small fraction of Coloradin's
when they are harming a much larger fraction of Coloradin's.

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And then call five people you know and ask any
of them to make a similar phone call. If they
get five hundred phone calls in the next two days,
that has a huge impact, huge impact, especially if you
are polite. If you're rude to the nice little people
who answer the phone, your phone call goes in the garbage.

(01:03:49):
And but guys, nobody that answers. The phone has any
power remotely over anything that these senators do. Just remember that.
Remember that. Okay, let's take a quick time out. Let
me know what you think. How does the shutdown end?
Most creative answer wins a non existent prize? How did
Democrats get out of the shutdown? Mandy King? Trump is

(01:04:13):
going to command the Royal God to arrest and shackle
every Democrat who's voted to keep the government shut down.
Then they will be put into the White House dungeon,
which is already completed underneath the Trump Ballroom. That from
no co Dan, you know what, it seems reasonable? Hi, Mandy,
haven't been able to listen much today? Unfortunately, did you

(01:04:35):
happen to catch Tucker's interview with Nick Fuentes. Nick doesn't
seem much like the Hitler lover that the media makes
him out to be. I have not watched the interview, Guys.
I'm gonna be honest. I haven't watched a Tucker Carlston show.
I don't It's been months months. I may see a
snippet here or there, but I just have no interest.
And that makes me sad because I used to really

(01:04:56):
enjoy him. I just don't pay attention to it much
some of these benefiting this textter said from COVID expansions
might be due for a little tough love. Sorry not sorry.
I agree. Mandy email taking Loop for a couple of
weeks ago, very politely asking him to please sign the
CR received a response saying getting subsidies needed to be

(01:05:17):
reinstated before he would vote for the CR. That from Carly. Now,
I'm urging everyone to call the senator's offices and let
them know that you don't think it's right that they
have put the needs of a small fraction of people
in Colorado over federal workers and people who are receiving
snap benefits. They are sacrificing poor people for upper middle

(01:05:42):
class people or middle class people. That's essentially what they're doing. Mandy.
Whenever I see a senator post about the healthcare crisis,
I asked them if they sponsored a standalone bill to
fix healthcare. All I get in response is crickets. Both
parties want this as a top point. Mandy, I politely

(01:06:03):
asked Gabe to release the Epstein files. He said someone
would be in touch. That was in August. Still waiting.
That's the same response I'll get from hick. Here's the thing,
you guys, it doesn't matter what response you get. It's
a numbers game. If they get five hundred phone calls
in two days, you guys, it moves the needle. I've
talked to way too many politicians, both on and off
the air, about whether or not emails and phone calls matter.

(01:06:26):
They do, but the numbers have to be there. And
if you do call again, be polite. If you're rude,
your call doesn't matter. Mandy. When Trump starts lobbing missiles
and the Dems seem to be occupied elsewhere with their complaining,
I don't know, Mandy. The government needs to know about

(01:06:46):
all the other bs in this spending bill that goes
to other countries. The government does or we do, Mandy.
Has Obama himself commented on the shutdown? Will I put
my assistant Chat gpt on it, And so far he
has not commented about this shutdown. At least that's what

(01:07:07):
Chat said. And as that's the only assistant I'm gonna pay,
I'm gonna have to go with that. Uh, Mandy, I
believe the Dems are push you. Oh nep Nope, already
did that one, all right? So four hundred percent of
the poverty line is roughly what fifty six thousand before
taxes for one person at sixty four thousand dollars a year.

(01:07:27):
Here's the thing, you guys. There are a couple things
that we can do right now that we'd make health
insurance affordable for everybody. Number one, stop telling insurance companies
what they have to cover and allow people who want
to buy insurance. Like I'm fifty six years old, I
am never gonna need maternity coverage ever. Again, It's not
gonna be a thing that I have to pay for.

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I'm never gonna need drug and alcohol treatment. I'm never
gonna need elective surgery because I've decided I'm another gender.
Can I take those things off my policy?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Please?

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
But instead Colorado keeps meating more stuff that insurance has
to cover, whether you want it or not. They could
also make it so everyone could buy a catastrophic health
insurance plan. I talked about it with Steve Moore yesterday.
If you did not hear that interview, please go to
our website and Mandy's blog, look at the latest post
section and find the podcast with Steve Moore from yesterday.

(01:08:19):
There are ways to make insurance affordable again, really smart ways,
and nobody's even talking about fixing the disaster that Obamacare is.
And by the way, again I said earlier, Obamacare is
working exactly the way it was designed to. It was
never about making anything more affordable. Find the numbers for

(01:08:39):
Senator Hickenlooper and Bennett's offices on the blog today when
we get back, I got some school board candidates if
you need them. Talk about that. Next.

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show
on Mandy Connell. That guy over there's Anthony Rodriguez and yeah,
and we will take you right up until three pm
when the Boys of KOA Sports take over. In the meantime,
they've got lots of stuff to talk about. Lots of
you are sending me emails asking about school board elections

(01:09:37):
and I kind of went over this earlier. There are
far too many districts in our area that do not
have any competition for their school boards. And that is
terrible Bolder Valley. Y'all didn't even field anybody for these offices.
And it's awful because I would say the school boards
in our area are not doing a great job. There's

(01:09:58):
a few outliers there. The Woodland Park school Board crushing it,
d eleven in the Springs crushing it, Douglas County crushing it.
None of these school boards are perfect, but they are
focused like a laser on student achievement and making sure
kids are ready to go out into the world after
graduation and do something. So there are bright spots. But

(01:10:20):
in case you were wondering on the blog today, I
now have Jefferson County school board race candidates that I
would suggest you vote for. None of these are endorsements,
because you know what happens when I endorse anyone, they lose,
So none of these are endorsements. But if I lived
in their districts, these are the people I would vote for.
I've got it for Jeff Co, I've got it for
Doug Co, I've got it for Denver, and I've got

(01:10:42):
it for Cherry Creek. If you're in the Cherry Creek
School district, you better start paying attention because things are
happening in your district that are not good. Those days
of Cherry Creek being the gold standard they are not now,
not even close. And there are some stuff that has

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been going on there that is just shady and divisive
and working to pit parents against teachers in a way
that is just unhealthy for everyone. So please pay attention.
I've written down the names on the blog today at
mandy'sblog dot com. You can share them. You can share

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them with all your friends. That would be great. Pay
attention to school board races. We all like to sit
around and talk about how college kids have gone so
far love how did it happen? We don't know. It's
because of some of the stuff that's happening in schools
right now. I also have a really interesting editorial on
the blog today that I did not know, and I'm

(01:11:45):
glad that the Denver Gazette decided to do an editorial
about it. In Colorado, overwhelmingly outside of Denver, we just
don't have a lot of teachers signed up for the
Teachers' Union. From the Denver Gazette, out of Colorado's one

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hundred and seventy nine school districts, fewer than forty are
formally unionized through collective bargaining or master agreements, in which
unions negotiate pay, benefits and other matters on behalf of
all teachers. Some districts agree to memorandums of understanding similar
to collective bargaining. That's what they have in Douglas County.
The majority of districts aren't unionized at all. Sure, many

(01:12:30):
districts have union affiliates, but they function more like clubs,
and many teachers joined because they're led to believe they
need the liability policies unions provide. It's worth noting that
comparable policies offered by the Professional Association of Colorado Educators,
the Association of American Educators, and the Teacher Freedom Alliance
are twenty dollars a month or free. It's a lot

(01:12:53):
less than the seventy bucks per month for membership dues
in unionized Denver, where dues are automatically deducted from teacher pay.
What it's really noteworthy is that even in some of
Colorado's largest school districts, union membership appears to be in decline.
In some cases, it's surprisingly low, As the Gazettes Jimmy
Seenberger pointed out, in his column last week, barely thirty

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percent of teachers in jeff Co Schools, Colorado's second largest district,
are members. That's even as the union claims to speak
for all. In a May thirtieth letter, Associate jeff Co
Schools HR chief Scott Barnes underscored the point to Jeffco's
school board as it negotiated its latest collective bargaining agreement,
which was finalized in August. The district bargains with a

(01:13:39):
minority voice of the employee population. The majority sixty five
to seventy percent of our employees have consciously opted out. Then,
he said, the quiet part loud. Why do we act
as if they represent a majority voice when clearly they
do not. Great question hard membership. Hard union membership data

(01:14:00):
has really made public. The fact that it has surfaced
about the state's number two district is telling, especially since
jeff Co has unionized up and down the front range.
Union ranks are thinning in Colorado Springs's District eleven, which
recently terminated collective bargaining, Only an estimated thirty three percent
of teachers or union members in neighboring Adams or Academy

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District twenty it's believed a mere seven percent are members.
Denver Public Schools, the state's largest school district, maintains nearly
seventy percent membership, but Douglas County's rapidly growing suburban district,
since at about twenty percent since ending collective bargaining in
twenty twelve. Public support is so weak that Dougcoe's union

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backs and heavily funds board candidates who aren't openly campaigning
for unionization. Before a refore minded majority took over the
Woodland Park School District, Oh wait a minute, Woodland Parks
School Board in twenty twenty one, the small or County
district used a meet and confer practice under an informal

(01:15:03):
conditions of employment document, collective bargaining and all but name,
despite only thirty percent union membership and no formal contract.
After the change of guard on the school board, the
Woodland Park District ended automatic deuce deductions, offered teachers alternative
liability coverage, and ended de facto union negotiations. In response,

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Colorado's Education Association the umbrella over which most local teacher
union chapters declared a crisis, but most Woodland Park teachers
evidently weren't alarmed. The district's union membership has dropped to
at most fifteen percent. When unions lose their grip on
a district, when their influence and control slip, teachers wise up,

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revealing just how much unions rely on gimmicks and misinformation
to convince teachers, parents and voters that their voice matters
most as voters waste school board races. Dwindling membership makes
one thing clear. Unions don't speak for all or even
most teachers. In light of the latest peak at union membership,

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it seems unions speak for fewer Colorado teachers than ever.
My question is this, and it's a genuine question, if
you can get liability insurance cheaper elsewhere as a teacher,
what is the incentive at all in any way to
be a part of the union. Do you get professional development?

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Do you get assistance in learning how to be a
better teacher? Do you get classroom management skills? Do you
get anything at all from the union if you can
get that liability coverage somewhere else. Because I've talked to
a lot of teachers you said the only reason they
are part of the union is because of that liability coverage.

(01:16:51):
But apparently in Denver they charge more for the liability
coverage than they do through a different organization. I'd like
to know, and I don't want to ask, Like if
I meet a teacher who's part of the union machinery,
why are you part of the union machine machinery in
a clear minority of your peers. I think it's a
valid question, and one that I'm asking not because I'm

(01:17:13):
trying to do a gotcha in any way, shape or form.
I'm really not. I'm asking because I think it would
be a very interesting conversation to have. What motivates you?

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Then?

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I've never ever ever wanted to be part of a
union ever. I've never had a job where I had
to be part of a union. I just can't imagine
striving to be treated exactly the same as someone who
does my same job but does it badly. It doesn't
appeal to me at all. What are some of the
other Halloween songs we need? Anthony? Lots of you are

(01:17:50):
talking about unions in general. Got a text message like
this on the Common Spirit health text line. Maybe I
have an airline pilot. It's mandatory that I have to
pay union dues. Whether I want to be a member
of the union or not. It sucks, especially since many
of their positions are contrary to my beliefs. But I'm
trapped now if I'm not mistaken. There have been several

(01:18:11):
Supreme Court cases over the years that will allow you
to pay dues for part of it, but not all
of it. But I'm not sure I would use the
Google and find out. Unions only assure that the membership
that is the worst that is protected, exactly right, that's
the purpose of a union. We've got a lot of

(01:18:33):
stuff on the blog today that we're not going to
get to because it's so good. But this is such
a weird thing for me to be super sad about.
But when I was a kid, let kids, pull up
your hopefully purstool to Antm's story Time Kids. Back when
I was young, we didn't have what was called cable
or screaming. We just had a giant antenna on the

(01:18:56):
side of our house. That antenna we got three channels.
We got ABC, we got CBS, we got PBS. Those
were the three channels in child only channels we had,
and we liked it. It was good enough for us,
darn it. So if you want to know why I
have such a weird sense of humor. It's because I

(01:19:17):
grew up watching British shows on PBS, and not the
least of which was Faulty Towers. Faulty Towers is one
of the most perfect shows ever made. It didn't run
for very long. I think they made like twelve thirteen episodes,
some crazy small amount like that. But the woman who
played the perfect dry foil to John Cleese's out of

(01:19:39):
control Basil Faulty was a woman named Prunella Scales. Her
name on the show was Sybil Faulty. And every outrageous
wackadoodle comedian needs the straight man, right, you need that counterbalance,
and Prunella Scales was sheer brilliance as his long suffering

(01:20:00):
wife Sybil. She died yesterday or this week at the
age of ninety three, which is a great run. But
I had to go back and thank you, thank you,
thank you YouTube. I found the best of Sybil from
Faulty Towers. I loved this show when I was a kid.

(01:20:21):
I thought it was the funniest thing I had ever seen.
Maybe I was advanced, I don't know. I watched an
episode of it fairly recently, like within the last six months,
and I realized as a kid, there's no way I
could have gotten all of this humor. There just isn't.
I just didn't know enough, right. But Faulty Towers was magical.

(01:20:41):
If you've never seen it, it's just it's hilarious and
it stands up if you don't watch anything else, just
watch the episode where Basil has a concussion and the
Germans check into their hotel. The entire premise of Faulty
Towers that they've got this small seaside little hotel and
it's Basil and Sybil running it and their motley crew.

(01:21:03):
You've got Manuel, who's the kind of you know, Dorman Bellman,
everyman Manny Oh he doesn't speak any English. Oh god.

Speaker 11 (01:21:11):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Absolutely hysterical. And the best of Sybil is on the
blog today, along with many, many, many good, good videos.
We got a lot. Hey Rod brought it. I want
to share that. Okay, I don't have time. I'm going
to do this right after the break. Whenever I listen
to someone do an interview, not only am I listening
to the interview, in my mind, I'm also critiquing their interview.

(01:21:34):
And I'm not saying I'm a perfect interviewer. Sometimes I
write down a bunch of questions and I only get
to like one of them because I'm I'm listening to
what the guest is saying, and I'm responding to what
the guest is saying. And when I hear an interviewer
blatantly not listen to the interviewee, it tries me crazy.
And I have not seen an example of an interviewer complete,

(01:22:00):
depletely ignoring what the interviewee is saying worse than Kristin
Welker's interview yesterday on Meet the Press or Sunday on
Meet the Press with Secretary of the Treasury Scott Besson. Now,
he unloaded some news that was incredibly significant about the

(01:22:21):
conversations with China overtrade, and apparently Kristin Welker just didn't
listen to the answer. I'll play it for you next.
It's a beautiful example of what happens when you have
a list of questions that, by God you're gonna ask
and you just don't pay attention to the words that
are coming out of the mouth of your guest. We'll

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do it right after this. I've got audio that I
want to play for you with the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson,
who I'm I'm just gonna say, not only is Scott
Besson going to go down as the first openly gay
member of the president's cabinet, he may go down as
one of the best Secretaries of the Treasury we've ever had.
The stuff that he is working on now, the way
he has been able to get some stuff done is incredibly,

(01:23:06):
incredibly interesting. Kristin Welker on Meet the Press on NBC
was interviewing him yesterday. Now let me have my audio there, Anthony.
I want you to listen to how this interview unfurls. Okay,
we're not even going to listen to the whole interview.
She had a list of questions and by gosh, she
was going to ask them. And if you go to

(01:23:26):
my blog today at mandy'sblog dot com, you can actually
watch Secretary of the Treasury's face go uh what. But
listen to how this went down. Good to be with him, Well,
it is wonderful to have you.

Speaker 15 (01:23:41):
You are there meeting with your Chinese counterparts ahead of
President Trump's planned meeting with President She of China. Mister secretary,
do you believe that China is ready to make a
trade deal, christ.

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
And I can tell you they are because we just
found two days of negotiations and we've created a framework
for the two leaders to discuss on Thursday in Korea.

Speaker 15 (01:24:11):
So that's optimism. President Trump had threatened to impose an
additional one hundred percent tariffs on China on November first,
if Beijing goes forward with a plan to put restrictions
on rare earth minerals, as you know, if China refuses
to pull back those restrictions, Mister secretary, can you confirm
that President Trump will in fact impose those one hundred

(01:24:35):
percent tariffs against China?

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
Well, Christy, Well, Scott Nesson's face here is literally like,
what did you did? You not just gear what I
just said. But he's nicer than I am, and I
think that's old news.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
President Trump gave me a great deal of negotiating leverage
with the threat of the one hundred percent tariffs on
November first, and I believe we've reached a very substantial
framework that will avoid that and allow us to discuss
many other things with the Chinese. I think we will
be able to discuss them, helping us get this terrible

(01:25:14):
fentanyl crisis under control.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
I think we are going to be.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
Able to discuss substantial soybean and ag purchases for.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Our American farmers.

Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
I think we are going to be able to discuss
more balanced trade. And I'm not going to get ahead
of the two leaders, but I think that they will
also be discussing President's Trump's a global peace plan that
he's been so success successful at both here in Asia,
the Middle East, and now he's looking to Ukraine Russia.

Speaker 15 (01:25:48):
Mister Secretary, you said a couple of significant things. It
sounds like you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Now I'm guessing her producer in her ear just said
to her, did you not hear what he just said?
But then she's going to reask the question.

Speaker 15 (01:26:00):
You are not anticipating a one hundred percent tariff against
China on November first, and seems like you're saying that
China is poised to purchase soybeans to open up those
markets again.

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
I believe that we have the framework for the two
leaders to have a very productive meeting for both sides,
and I think it will be fantastic for US citizens,
for US farmers, and for a country in general.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
Okay, So now she pivots to Canada, and when I'm
watching this interview, I was like, did she not hear
anything that the man just said?

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
This is huge news.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
By the way, I think most Americans don't realize that
rare earth mineral negotiations are at the core of everything
happening between China and the United States right now. Do
you know why this is my favorite part of this
entire story, and my favorite, I mean most ironic. Rare
earth minerals are critically important to make everything in the

(01:27:01):
modern era, to make computer chips, to make electric cars,
to make batteries, to make everything that we use everything.
Do you know why China corners the market on rare
earth minerals because the environmental rules in other developed nations
are too tight to allow us to mine for our
own rare earth minerals, which, by the way, we have.

(01:27:24):
We have a ton of rare earth minerals in the
United States of America, an absolute crap ton of rare
earth minerals. But getting those minerals out you have to
get so much more out of the ground to then
refine it down to get these minerals, which are called
rare earth minerals for our reason, if they weren't rare

(01:27:46):
then they wouldn't be called rare earth minerals. China because
it's a communist country and the dictatorship can do whatever
they want. They don't care about the environmentalists. Do they
even have environmentalists in China know, because well, the Chinese
government and what would put them in prison? So in China,
we are now using all of these shady environmental tactics

(01:28:07):
to rare earth mind so we can build green energy,
so our environmentalists can feel good about themselves. I mean,
come on, you guys, that's kind of fantastic, right, talk
about letting someone else do the dirty work. And by
dirty work, I mean actual work in actual dirt that
is dirty. So the fact that any sort of progress

(01:28:29):
has been made about rare earth minerals is significant. I
believe at some point, if we go to war with China,
we're gonna have no choice but to mind our own
rare earth minerals. But I'd love if more people started
talking about the fact that our entire green economy is
based on communists digging out rare earth minerals in such
a way as we could not do in the United
States of America because it's so environmentally unsound. Hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
I also have a story today on the blog, really
very interesting, but I'm not going to go through it
because it's kind of wonky, and wonky numbers don't always
translate on the radio. But the long and short of
it is this, the demand that is going to be
seen when it comes to artificial intelligence, when it comes
to our electricity needs, is going to be game changing.

(01:29:21):
I mentioned it the other day. This is why I
invest in small nuclear technology companies because I think AI
is eventually going to go nuclear. Is the only thing
that's going to work for us in any significant way,
small modular reactors, specifically, power demand for AI data centers
has skyrocketed in twenty twenty three. Listen to his stat
This is fascinating. In twenty twenty three, data centers only

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accounted for approximately four point four percent of US electricity consumption,
but the US Department of Energy estimates that data centers
could consume up to twelve percent of total US electricity
by twenty twenty eight. And here's the kicker, you guys.
Data centers and AI engines need to run twenty four

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to seven, and they need to run whether the wind
is blowing or the sun is shining, and they draw
so much energy at such a rate that we simply
do not have the battery technology available now, it doesn't
exist to use batteries as backups to get them through
these times when renewable therefore unreliable energy won't work. So

(01:30:28):
we've kind of limited ourselves. Now. This article goes in
to talk about how wind and solar is the only
type of energy that the more you add it does
not necessarily add more energy because of the way it
is intermittent. Right, if the sun is not shining, there's

(01:30:50):
no power being created. If the wind is not blowing,
there's no power being created. And when you add more
wind and solar, they are still subject to the same problems,
which is well nature regardless of how many you've got
a million more windmills, but if the wind isn't blowing,
you've done nothing. So this article from Real Clear Energy

(01:31:11):
is very very interesting, but essentially it just lays out
the many ways that wind and solar are not remotely
capable of meeting our energy needs, not just in the
far future, but in the near term as well. So
that is on the plow of the blog as well.
One of my favorite things on today's blog is the
A Rod Halloween costume retrospective that A Rod put together?

(01:31:34):
A Rod? How old are you in the when you're
the littlest a Rod? And what are you with all
the stuff on your head? The aluminum foil on your head?
Foil the one right next to Dwight from the office. Oh,
I'm Godzilla. Oh I can't see the top of your head. Okay,
I thought it was like tinfoil. No, it's a Godzilla helmet.

Speaker 9 (01:31:55):
What are you on the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Bottom left corner? How old were you there?

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
God, I mean you look like you're about four a
few years?

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:32:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
Three? Four?

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah? What's your favorite of those nine? I gotta tell you.
Ron Burgundy nailed it and anchoring a newsgas so good
in college. That was fantastic. You Everyone really loves the bane.
The ban is for me. You got the face mask,
but other than that, you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
Just look like a The jacket, the jacket, mouse jacket, the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Bane and I got that a thrist store.

Speaker 13 (01:32:25):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Hell yeah. We also have a story about how you
can blessed dress up at Red Rocks this week. You
just can't wear a mask or helmet. Yeah, and you
can't have any fake weapons.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
It's like at the Denver Zoo, no masks, no helmet,
see that Captain America bottom right, Yeah, they weren't cool
with that the Zoo that you can see my identity.
Apparently you can't wear that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Oh geez.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
So it's like nothing that covers your face at all
because of the face I d stuff. Oh yeah, you
can see who I am in that one a couple
of years ago that they made me take it off,
like really really know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
And someone made a clip of Quinn minors playing and
and sort of paving the way for a touchdown run.
I'm sorry, I'm gonna call him the Paver from now on,
three different flattening. If I were a football coach, I
would use this clip as an instructional video. I'm sure
they do, you know, like here, this is how you

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do it, this is how you block for the run.
But can we call him Quinn the Paver miners? Now sure?
I think that's a cool nickname, better than the Belly
he does not like. No, the Belly's horrible. The Paver. Yeah,
he paves the way for touchdowns, Anthony, that's all he does.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
He's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
I'll see if I can get the k Oys. By
the way, we have that video on the blog today
if you want to see Quinn Miners paving the way
for a fantastic touchdown. I also have a couple of
more things on the blog that we're not gonna get
to today. I feel like I just feel like the
blog is it is too big. Maybe maybe Nancy is right,
maybe it is. I have a story that I think

(01:33:53):
should get more play than it's going to get, and
it's about Mayor Mike Johnston and the deal that the
mayor did and the city Council approved to swap the
park Hill golf Course land to make it a green
space with some land out by DIA. And the swap
was supposed to be according to the Denver City Council.
They signed off on a one hundred and forty five

(01:34:15):
acre deal, and after the city council signed up on it,
the Mayor's office added another twenty acres of the IA
land that added about fourteen percent. Now, in the Mayor's defense,
the mayor says, look, once we platted the land that
we were giving them, we found out that there was
a pretty pretty significant utility line that runs right through

(01:34:37):
that property, so it would change the way it can
be developed. So in order to make up for that
land that was lost because of the utility lines and
I don't mean power lines. I think it's I think
it's fiber optic cable. It doesn't matter, it's a utility
And he said, in order to make up for that.
But he never went back to the city council and
just said, hey, guys, here's what we're doing, here's why

(01:34:57):
it's happening. And honestly, it's a legit reason. I think
it's a legit reason. If I'm the landowner, I'm gonna
be like, I don't want to land, I can't develop.
That's ridiculous. So he had a justification, but once again
the mayor just barreled along and did what he want.
I will tell you I never felt this way, but
I think there might be a chance that Mayor Mike

(01:35:18):
Johnston could be primaried by a Democrat, because you know,
a Republican's never gonna win in Denver. I mean, maybe
an independent could strike, but a Republican's just not going
to win in Denver. Reflexive, stupid voters would see the
r and be like, I don't care if you are
the second coming of Christ. I'm not voting for you,

(01:35:39):
but this is just another example of the mayor sort
of burning another bridge with a city council. I wouldn't
be surprised if he was a one term mayor. I
really wouldn't. Depends on who decided to primary him and
if the Democratic Party would even allow it to happen.
Got a couple stories on the blog today, one of
them the most interesting story, Anthony, do you know why
we yawned? They don't know, but I do know. It's contagious. Well,

(01:36:02):
this is so interesting. There have been a lot of
study exactly. There have been a lot of studies, but
there's been no sort of scientific consensus that people could
kind of go, yeah, that makes the most sense. How
is there not a well point? There kind of is?
Now No, there isn't. Yes, there is, I believe you somewhat.

(01:36:25):
A graduate student who was pursuing an honors thesis decided
to study yawning, and the thesis that he came up
with to test was that yawning is a motor action.
That is, I mean, let's describe a yawn. You have
an extended gaping of the jaw that's accompanied by this

(01:36:46):
deep inhalation of air followed by a rapid closure of
the jaw and a quicker exhalation, and he posited that
yawning is essentially your skull stretching. Hear me out, when
you stretch, when you physically stretch your body, like when
you wake up in the morning and you have a
big stretch, what you're doing is activating those muscles, so

(01:37:08):
blood starts to flow and it starts to start a
wake your body up. So what he found out was
that when your skull stretches, the big yawn, you got,
the big open mouth, you're taking in air, what it
does is stimulate blood fro around the brain. So it's
actually either waking up your brain or turning off your brain,
depending on whether or not you're waking up or you're tired.

(01:37:30):
And they think they're completely guessing about this next part.
Why are yawns contagious? They are guessing, and it is
a guess that there's some social aspect to this.

Speaker 5 (01:37:41):
Ah men.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Yeah, So when you are a part of a social animal,
we are social animals. Human beings are social animals. This
is kind of like a social kind of a social
signal that we're with you, we want to be activated too.
You yawn, you're activating your brain con your skull is stretching.
And then I yawn because I want to activate my

(01:38:02):
brain too, to be ready for whatever. You know that
I don't know. I call baloney. How cool is that?
That's so cool?

Speaker 5 (01:38:08):
I see grants now yawning. I call baloney. I I
had heard that has something to do more. Like you know,
you try to get more, get more breath well, stretching
oxygen part.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
No, but you what it's. What it's physically doing is
speeding up your brain's access to the oxygen in your blood,
So it kind of is getting more oxygen to your brain.
I just hear about the contagious yawning. If one baboon
in a troop triggers others to yawn, they may all
become more alert. This may also work the other way around,
helping to downregulate arousal before sleep. In other words, yawning

(01:38:43):
is good for you. It's probably helping your brain function better.
And if you've been conspicuously yawning to get a five
year old go to sleep, don't stop. There's a chance
it's actually working.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
You stop that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
Just talking about yawning also make a yawn three times
every time she says the word anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
Why, it's all part of the social contagion. You just
want to make sure you're ready for whatever's coming next
the show. Grant Smith joining us in the studio. Hello,
how are you? Grant? I am great?

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
I am fantastic. It's winter. I'm excited about that old
I know, going skiing tomorrow. Oh you're going to Keystone
or a basin? A basin, yeah, bay all day. You
know Keystone beat him this year by a little bit shady,
A Bay all day, A Bay all day.

Speaker 8 (01:39:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Probably, I'm gonna look. If it's not, I'm gonna make that.
I mean, I'll give you a cut, but not much
of it. And now it's time for the most exciting
segment on the radio of its guy, the world of
the day. All right, what is our dad joke of
the day?

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
Like this one? The other day I visited the thrift
store and picked up an old record album called Sound
of Wasps. When I got home and played it, I
realized it didn't sound.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
Anything like Wasps. Turns out I've been playing the B side.
That's a complex joke, and it takes a moment but
that's a good one bite and you know what you well, no,
my daughter would know what the B side is now,
So anyway, it's you're popular. What is I know what
is our our word of day?

Speaker 5 (01:40:18):
It is a noun.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
I'm not trying this one.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Kanya shinty. What Kanya shinty?

Speaker 13 (01:40:23):
Spell that?

Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
Let's co og n os ce n te Kanya shinty ee.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
I don't gonna have it now, yes, Kane shy, I'm
going to say it is. It's a Japanese it's your consciousness,
your your waking consciousness.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
Your wakefulness refers to a person with expert knowledge and
a subject cognition.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Kanya shinty, Kanye shinty, Cogya shinty. Yeah, Okay, here we go.
Trivia question. Shirley Temple, iconic child actor of the nineteen thirties,
was known for her head of curly hair. Exactly how
many curls did her classic care Doo have? I'm saying
to guess seventy five. I'm gonna guess fifty four. You

(01:41:07):
are so close in prices, right rules, you totally win
fifty six. Her mother, Gertrude Temple, styled her hair and
ensured that there were always fifty six girls. That seems
a little obsessive to me. But whatever you do, you
you do you Gertrude? Okay, what is that?

Speaker 8 (01:41:24):
Was your mom?

Speaker 11 (01:41:26):
I know?

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Anyway? Category is the whole tooth, the whole tooth and
nothing but the tooth. Oralb has a nighttime guard that
helps you with this man the what is grinding your teeth?

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
For it?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
It's close.

Speaker 5 (01:41:45):
Alice in Wonderland encountered this creature that had a great
and many.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
Teeth, Pandy, what is the chestre cat? Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:41:51):
The nutria or swamp beaver has orange teeth because this
hard layer of their teeth is high and iron.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
What's he enamel?

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
That is great?

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
I literally just watched a video on beaver teeth. I'm
not even kidding hilarious.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Stained or crooked teeth can be treated by bonding a porcelain.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
One of the what's that is correct?

Speaker 5 (01:42:17):
Types of teeth in the adult human mouth include Moler's
pre moral grant is nine?

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
That is correct? A gentleman? Sweet?

Speaker 8 (01:42:30):
But the desperation answer where it was gonna go?

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
But that was my guest.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
That is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
What's coming up on k way now? Here's my thinking.
I've decided I have a video today that somebody made
of Quinn Miners rolling through and knocking people down, clearing
the way for a touchdoupion. We go, Quinn Miners the
Paver from now on. It's kind of got a little
a little bit of a mob feel to it, you know,
kind of like he could be a wise guy, or
he could be a football player. Yeah, the Paver. I

(01:42:58):
don't know if that's gonna trump the Belly. No, but
he doesn't like the belly. Would you like to be
called the belly? Wouldn't you rather be called the paver?
I'm sure he probably. I'm just saying Quinn I put
that out there. I'll put that out there.

Speaker 5 (01:43:09):
By the way, Garrett Bowles right off the top of
the show, and then Jake Plumber at four point thirty
one at five, What a show today.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
You're welcome. Karrit Bolls is just he is just so
good at his job and what a great human being. Now,
you deal with a lot of athletes and you never
know how they're going to be off air. I didn't
know you were going to say athletes say something else.

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
But Garrett Balls is like the nicest human around and
he's playing great.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
He's coming up right now on Kae Sports, Keep it
right here on Kiowa