10-29-24 FULL SHOW - Medicare Info Sessions, and What's Next After Next Tuesday

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, Mandy, god keeping, ignorance, Sadday, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to
a Tuesday editional b Someone keeps texting me and says, Mandy,
please tell me the lyrics to your song. If you
email me Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com, I will
email you the lyrics. They're too long to put in
a text message. So yeah, yeah, Mandy. My doctor twenty

(00:47):
years stopped taking Medicare this year also said due to
a new law, they cannot take cash or self pay
from Medicare patients. Yeah. Yes, indeed, let me tell you
a little bit about that, because one of the things
we're going to talk about today is Medicare. We've got
a lovely woman coming on to talk about a bunch
of different seminars that are going on tell people who

(01:09):
are in the process of either signing up for a
meds up or signing up for a Medicare advantage plan
get the information they need. Medicare no longer allowing their
doctors to accept cash or self pay from Medicare patients
is designed to prevent doctors from leaving Medicare. And you

(01:32):
would think to yourself, with all the people that are
on Medicare, why would they do that. Because Medicare's reimbursements
are so low that there are certain procedures, or certain
injections or vaccinations where doctor's offices will actually lose money
on treating a patient, and so doctors get sick of it.

(01:54):
And if they have a strong enough practice of patients
that are not of Medicare age, it makes more sense
to treat fewer patients that you were going to be
properly compensated for. And that's the choice that doctors are making,
and Medicare didn't like that, so they passed a rule
that said doctors who don't accept Medicare cannot accept self

(02:16):
pay or cash pay from Medicare patients. It's really that
it's it's designed to protect their monopoly and if they
were a real business that had to compete, they would
be charged with something for that. I just don't know. No,
the song does not say keep the libtards at may.
That is not not what it says. Thank you, No,

(02:39):
didn't mean to get off on that tangent. Wow, but
you guys are killing me already. On the Common Spirit
Health text line at five sixty six nine to oho,
Mandy just got back from vacation to find my house
tagged with gang graffiti. I guess they were wrong about
illegal gangs operating an Aurora. By the way, I live
in an expensive residence, mental neighborhood. You should touch on

(03:02):
this now. Well, if you just got back from vacation,
you may not know that we have been talking about
it pretty relentlessly, Pretty relentlessly, Mandy, Why doesn't Ross have
a theme song? Maybe Ross's listeners are not as talented
as mine, just saying, just throwing that out there. I mean,

(03:23):
does he have a theme song? Does he a rod?
Does he does his listener? Did his listener? Stop it?
Let's do the blog today. No, you can't do this,
stop it right now, okay, because you did it all
night last night anyway, you guys, Uh I am I. Okay,

(03:47):
let's just we'll go back to the beginning a rod
of the show and we'll just start over like we're
a professional radio team. Okay, Hey, well again, Okay, we're
back now. There was a long three minutes right there
for that anyway, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the show on

(04:07):
a Tuesday. I'm Mandy Connell. That's a Rod right over there,
and we've got a great show planned for you. So
let's do the blog, shall we. You can find it
by okay, you guys, I need to address up about
the blog. I'm off on another tangent.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's gonna be that kind of show. Buckle up, buttercup.
So I keep getting emails from all of you who
are super frustrated by the changes that they made to
the website where you cannot find the blog posts because
now a Rod does a fantastic job of chopping up
the show into individual interviews with all in addition to

(04:42):
the full show. So the blog posts often if they
go later in the day, the blog posts get eaten
up by the podcasts because they're no longer separated scroll.
I know, I know, I know, but people are annoyed
because it's not as functional as it used to be.
And I just want you guys to know I too,
am annoyed. But my problem is this. I Heart Media

(05:06):
has a gajillion radio stations and we all use the
same template for our website, which makes a lot of
sense when you think about just replication and keeping everything
streamlined and making it easy to take care of. But
that being said, my blog. I don't know if anybody
else in the company does a blog like I do.

(05:26):
I really don't think they do. So it's yes, yes,
hang on, let me try. I forgot to ermain I know, okay,
Bobby that is it's a Magan welcome the man gone,

(06:00):
American alarships and clipment of say that's corna press plant.
Today on the blog, my voter guide is out, but
I have some new information, have questions about medicare I
a wait what? And a chat about liberty in our future?
After the election, Jeff Coo wants to keep the money
they took that as yours. If you're mailing your ballot,

(06:22):
why aren't Republicans voting yet? Sharon Combs is a monster
Now Liberals are worried X is throttling them. Will they
even have time to get him a nameplate for his office?
Will people die alone over politics? Have we hit Pete
Pickle yet? Proof the networks are in the bag for Harris?
This is Jeff Bezos says the thing we all know

(06:43):
about the media. Ay Rod did some moonlighting last night.
Can ultrasound waves cure addiction? VP Harris put restrictions on
a Joe Rogan interview. Red Rocks twenty twenty five is
shaping up nicely. There's a top ten escape room in Littleton,
Iron deficiency and colon cancer in young people. An elite
school is elite. No more scrolling. Do you smell smoke? Oh,

(07:06):
it's just ballads burning. Dwayde is not impressed. Those are
the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. You
might have to go to the latest post section depending
on when you go to find the blog and just
scroll over. There's the I've got to replace the headshot
that is on the podcast page. It's it's old. It's
like ten years old. It's a good one, but it's

(07:28):
ten years old. I always feel like that's false advertising. Okay,
let's be real, a Rod. You've seen it happen. You've
seen somebody's headshots and then you see them and they
go cheese Louise. They have an updated that headshot in
fifteen years. There's no bueno, No bueno. I don't want
somebody shocked at how old I look when they meet
me in person. I want them to already have a
clear picture of how old I am. Anyway, Uh, I

(07:53):
don't even know what I was going to say, justin
forget about it. No, A Rod did some moonlighting at
the thirteenth floor Hunted House last night, and I have
to say, I mean, honestly, hats off to the makeup
team who did. Yeah, you look terrible. They danks, I
mean really finely, scary and awful.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
They had me as a shout out to our guy
Nick the GM at the thirteenth floor. He had me
in one as the main talent lot folks last night.
So there's only like three or four in the front
lot that are like going around the line and are
like usually the most decked out with costumes. He had
me as one of those last night. Nice most of

(08:34):
the Actually, I think all the other clowns in the
other section and any other clowns, they all have.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
To you just worked with him one night. You don't know.
If they're decent people. You don't have to call them clowns.
They run. No, that's funny, that's funny, that's funny. Yeah,
I was the only one like full on makeup that
took like how long do you think that took? Oh gosh,
I would say a couple hours. No no, no, no,
no no no.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
I's that's another compliment to the makeup bars. That took
about I want to guess twenty five thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Shut up. Yeah, wow, that's impressive. I just got very
bad news. You guys, if you're of a certain age.
Terry Garr, the star of Young Frankenstein and Tutsie, has
passed away at the age of seventy nine. That one's
a bummer, man. She was she was something in eighties movies.

(09:21):
She had been accompany what she had been diagnosed with
multiple sclerosis about twenty years ago, and I'm assuming that
that has what has taken her life. But boy, she
was amazing. I mean she was just she was in
everything for so long. She was in close Encounters. Oh

(09:45):
my gosh, she was yes, ah yeah, mister mom, I
mean so many good, good movies. Just an incredibly actress.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
She's the one from uhf oh yes.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yep, yep, yep. Oh yeah, that's sad. That's not what
I wanted to do. So story, Okay, let's just cover
what we've done so far. It is her. Yeah, I
have my voter guide out today. It's at the top
of the blog. I'm gonna have it up there every
day until okay, good, next Tuesday, when we finally end

(10:23):
the madness that is this election cycle that has just
been so miserable. Nobody is happy right now with this
election cycle. I mean, are you anyone? Is anyone happy
with the way things have gone? It's just been awful. Yes, no,
I was saying I was excited. Okay, good, No, you're
not excited. You're a liar. I saw a video. I
didn't put it on the blog today I saw yesterday.
Did you see the one some guy, I want to say,

(10:47):
in oh gosh, up North somewhere destroying this lady's political
like display outside her house. Now, whether or not I
would walk by and roll my eye at some of
the stuff she had in her yard, but that's all
I would do. I would just roll my eyes and
I would keep walking. But this guy acted the full

(11:08):
and is kicking stuff and throwing stuff and just busting
up her entire display, which again is completely over the top.
But it's just I'm watching, and I think we've just
lost our damn minds. We have all gone insane. I mean,
I am so ready for this to be over. It's
not even funny. I spend now, I spend a good

(11:32):
three hours every morning looking for anything to talk about
except politics. I mean anything. And when there's normally normal news,
now it's normal news with politics in it. It's like,
oh my god. Anyway, so I just have some an
update on my voter guide. Now. I have not changed
my recommendation on right choice voting. I still believe and

(11:55):
I did vote for it, and I still believe that
it is the right thing to do. However, I talked
to a state senator from Alaska for a good half
hour yesterday off the air. Great guy. He's coming on
the show tomorrow. So they have already lived under this system.
And my big sort of nagging fear in the back
of my mind when I was really trying to figure

(12:16):
out how this could be manipulated, how it can be
utilized properly, the upsides, the downsides, I'm trying to figure
all this stuff out. Then I figured out, I just
call somebody to Alaska and see what happened, and I'll
let him go through all the details with you. But
my big worry, my biggest worry is honestly that voters
aren't as smart as I want to believe they are.

(12:38):
And after talking to him, I can assure you that
is the problem. It's not the system, it's the fact
that voters simply don't pay enough attention to understand an
incredibly simple process. So that is a you know, like
I said, back of my mind, worry, now of my

(13:00):
mind worry. But I do think it can be mitigated
with an unprecedented level of voter education. And I just
think it's going to be a really heavy lift. And
I think that if you vote for rank choice voting
and they come out later and say, look, this is
going to cost us another twenty million just to educate
the voters, you have to be like, okay, because that's

(13:22):
what it's going to take to make it work. And
I want to make it work. I think it's a
great idea, but there's definitely there are definitely things to
be learned from the experience that Alaska has had. So again,
I'm still a yes on ranked choice voting, but I
want to be I'm doing full disclosure. I'm really tired
of having things pass only to find out later that

(13:43):
in the background somewhere there was all this other information
that the voters never got. So that's why I'm going
to bring him on the show tomorrow. And he's very,
very interesting guy. He's not a hard partisan. He is
a Republican, but you know he's been a registered libertarian,
a registered independent prior to this. And he just said, look,
this isn't for me about the two party system. It's

(14:04):
about how unwieldy it is. So we'll talk to him
tomorrow and you'll have a chance. And all of you
who are already hitting the common spirit, heal text line
with I told you many well you were right. But
again I'm stilly yes, because I think ultimately it can work.
But it's a heavy lift. Lots lot about about that anyway,

(14:25):
Mandy election season is frustrating, but I love seeing the
MAGA movement. Everyone who is anyone is on board. You know,
I will tell you this. I saw this this morning,
and I heard Ross talking about a little bit earlier
on his show about polling. And you know, whether or
not people are seeing polls that say Kamala Harris is
up well in national polls, she is, but in the
swing states she is not. And honestly, the swing states

(14:48):
are all that matters. We don't have a national popular vote.
We have the electoral College to protect the rights of
smaller states so they don't get steamrolled by highly populated states,
you know, with populations that our group think for one
party or the other. It was designed to prevent that

(15:08):
very situation from occurring. So we don't have the national
popular vote. So honestly, the national polling doesn't matter. But
if you want to get into a conversation about that
right now, Kamala Harris, I just saw in one was
up one and a half points. Then I saw a
story that said, at the same time in October in
nineteen eighty, Jimmy Carter was up nationally and Ronald Reagan

(15:31):
came back and she'll lacked him. I mean, she'll lacked him.
Ronald Reagan nineteen eighty electoral map. I'm just pulling this
up right now. Jimmy Carter won four states, four states,

(15:53):
got absolutely crushed. He won forty nine electoral votes. Polling
is just designed to give political pundits something to talk
about and to let candidates know where they need to
do the most work. And we have made it into
this leviathought that has a life of its own. The

(16:16):
only poll that matters is the one that happens next Tuesday.
And honestly, the polling being the way it is and
then having things go differently than the polling said it
was going to unfold has just created a level of
distrust and mistrust that isn't necessarily deserved for that particular reason.
You know, people assume I don't think they do anymore.

(16:39):
Does anybody in the listening audience assume that polls are right?
I just took all of them with a great deal
of skepticism. And the other part about this is, you guys,
all of the candidates are constantly running polls throughout the
election process that never get released to anyone never. But
when you see a candidate star to pivot to one

(17:01):
direction or one group of people or one topic really hard,
their internal polling is telling them that's what's going to
move the voters. We just don't ever get to see
the internal polling. You may hear like a leak of it,
but they will never release the internal data because along
with the good stuff, there's also always bad stuff. So

(17:22):
it's really interesting the questions that candidate's poll versus the
questions that pollsters poll. I mean, if you ever get
a poll that is like asking you about likability, asking
you about do you support specific issues that that candidate
is very involved in. Those are all candidate polls trying

(17:43):
to find out exactly what's going to make you vote
for that person. So it's the polling business is fascinating.
And it used to be when we all had, you know,
phones on the wall that would ring, and we didn't
have caller IDs. So guess what, kids, I know, this
is crazy, but it went like this. The phone rang,
and you just picked it up off the wall blind
and you went hello with a little hopeful in your

(18:05):
voice because maybe the phone was going to be for you.
Maybe it was going to be your mom, we don't know.
And then if it was something like this, if it
was like your brother or your sister, you would just
hold the phone about four inches away from your face
and then scream their name as loud as you could
and then phone. But if it was like my aunt

(18:27):
calling my mom, she was calling from Fort Lauderdale, which
was long distance, so then you put the phone down
and you yelled mom long distance. That's how it was
back in olden times. It's glorious, absolutely glorious. Now, a
little bit later in the show, we are going to
talk to a lovely woman named Eileen Doherty. She is

(18:48):
the director of the Colorado Gearontological Society. They have some
wonderful and I mean wonderful, wonderful workshops coming on about Medicare,
Medicare season enrollment and if you're going to buy a
Medicare supplement or enroll in a Medicare advantage plan, or
you're new to Medicare and you have no idea what

(19:09):
you're doing. These events are fantastic and they are all
over the state. So we're going to have a conversation. Actually,
Isleen's coming up next, So I'm going to take a
time out and we will be back momentarily with Eileen
Doherty to talk a little bit about these Medicare things.
By the way, even if you are not a Medicare age,
if you have parents that are Medicare eligible or are

(19:33):
in Medicare, it is so useful for you to learn
about what is covered and what is not because at
some point you may have to deal with that and
it may be in a stressful time. So these aren't
just necessarily for Medicare recipients. There for anyone who may
be in that situation. We're going to talk to her next.
It's that time of year when if you are on Medicare,

(19:55):
they are going to send you letters and you're going
to get all kinds of mailings and advertisements of people
I'm trying to sell you a different kind of Medicare
advantage plan or Medicare supplement, and it can all be
very confusing. And that's why I'm pleased to have my
next guest, Eileen Doherty with us. II Leen is with
an organization? II Leen, what is I know? I know

(20:15):
the name of your organization, and it just went completely
out of my mind. Please help me out.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Colorado Gerontological Society.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay, then I didn't forget the name of the organization,
but I thought that was wrong. So I'm glad. I'm
glad I get I didn't guess there. So Eileen, you
guys have put together a series of seminars across the state.
Tell me what this is.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
So for many years, the Colorado Gerontological Society has been
offering presentations on Medicare and the changes for twenty twenty
five and what people should kind of know about and
what they should take into con iteration as they are

(21:02):
making decisions, and this is true for people who are
new to Medicare as well as people who have had
Medicare for many years and are looking to maybe make
some changes.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I think this is really important because it can be
very overwhelming. And I said, just as before this segment, Eileen,
that this isn't necessarily just for Medicare recipients themselves. This
would be a great opportunity for families who have parents
who are on Medicare and have Medicare plans to find
out more, don't you think.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
Yes, we have lots of family members who engage with
our programs as well, and a lot of times, either
as people are kind of new tomatic care and just
struggling with it, families find themselves helping to make those decisions.
But I think more frequently what we're finding is as

(22:01):
older adults are less able to make their own decisions
and family members are having to get more involved in
the decision making than they are confused and not sure
whether again, as you said at the opening, whether they
should seriously listen to all of the advertising promotion and

(22:22):
whether it affects them or whether it is something that
they need to pay attention to. So we're finding more
and more family members inquiring about what do I need
to do for my mom or dad who might be
at very advanced stage well.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
And additionally, let me just from personal experience, Eileen, there
comes a time when you are going to be making
medical decisions more than likely for your parents, and knowing
what Medicare does and doesn't cover is extremely beneficial because
a lot of people have ideas about what they think
Medicare covers in terms of long term care or other

(23:00):
things like that. It is you need to understand what
Medicare does cover and when it doesn't at least have
a big overview of what you're looking at and what
you can do to protect yourself and your family, because
if your mother or father becomes ill, that's not the
time to be asking them a bunch of questions about
their Medicare plan. That's just the personal personal experience there
on that one. So I just say educate yourself when

(23:21):
you can. Now you really do have these all over
the state. Unfortunately, the folks in Alamosa, if you're listening,
you've already missed the one there. That one already happened.
But and Fort Collins let me see the next one
November fourth. It looks like the next one's in Denver,
in Glenwood Springs in Lyttleton, and then we've got one

(23:43):
in Aurora the following week, Grand Junction, then Centennial Littleton, Denver,
So you've really got them all over. What if people
can't make it to any of the in person events.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
There's also going to be a zoom one in November.
On December the second, I guess, okay, from one thirty
to three Actually, the online ones take about an hour.
It's from one thirty to three thirty on December the second,

(24:15):
which is right under the wire because people need to
make whatever changes they want to do by December the seventh,
so it still gives them a couple of days to
make decisions, but at least they'll have some time to
do that they ultimately, I was going to say, additionally,

(24:37):
the session that was done on October the fourteenth has
actually been posted to our YouTube channels, so people could
actually go out and view that at this point in
time if they would like.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
How, what is your YouTube handle? Is that Colorado Tearontelogical Society.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
It's but it will see Oh and then Gerontology.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Okay, okay, I lean this stuff is really good. I
put a link on my blog to the sign up.
Is there any cost for these seminars?

Speaker 6 (25:12):
No, they are all free and at some of them.
There are also insurance agents available that can help with
comparison shopping if people are interested in talking to agents.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Perfect Eileen Doherty. Thank you so much for putting this together.
I think this is incredible value. And as one who
has both sold Medicare supplements in the past and dealt
with Medicare from a child of a parent perspective, the
more you know, the better off you will be. So Eileen,
thanks so much for making this happen.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Thank you very much for helping to share with your listeners.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
No problem, Thank you, Eileen Doherty from the Colorado Gearontological Society. Again,
I put a link on the blog if you want
to sign up. They have so many of these and
they also have them obviously on their YouTube channel. It's
so important to know about what Medicare does and does
not do, because once you understand what Medicare does and

(26:09):
does not do, then you can choose the right Medicare
supplement for your needs. And I would say this, and
granted I used to sell Medicare supplements. I've just seen
what happens when you go cheap on your Medicare supplement.
You need to ask questions when you meet with a
Medicare supplement salesperson, like, tell me what happens what I
pay for? If I find out tomorrow that I have

(26:31):
lung cancer and I have to go through chemon radiation.
What do I have to pay for? Am I looking
at twenty percent? What's the caps? You ask them specific questions.
They should be able to find those answers for you,
because too late, people are in great health, they buy
that super cheap plan, or they get a plan that
doesn't cover that much, and then they have something major

(26:51):
pop up, and then you end up with a ton
of copays. So I always say, by the best Medicare
supplement you can afford. Some of the Medicare advantage plans
that are out there here are outstanding. My mom had
a Medicare advantage plan with Kaiser that she loved, and
it was great for her because she's in really good
health and she had a great experience with Kaiser's Medicare

(27:12):
advantage plan. So you know, you've just got to understand
what isn't isn't covered though, because it is critical to
understand what you're going to be responsible for going forward. Mandy,
speaking from experience two years ago, no one should navigate
original Medicare sign ups without the advice of a qualified,
licensed broker. You can make decisions that seem fairly innocent

(27:34):
that can have potentially permanent or long term negative impacts
on your healthcare coverage later in life. That is exactly
what I'm talking about right there, right there. You cannot
make these decisions on what you're going to buy based
on your health right at this moment. If your health
is good, you have to plan for your health not
to be good. Trust me on this, trust this text.

(27:57):
Who I don't know, but that's great advice. So I'm
just gonna that's perfect advice, really great advice. So there
you go, Mandy. Remember in the seventies, eighties, and nineties,
undecided voters went for the person leading in the polls.
They are still trying to employ this strategy by releasing
fake numbers. Maybe we're talking about polling earlier in the show.

(28:19):
Uh oh oh, well, my parents made us answer the
phone with manners. I had to say, Kelly, residents Mora speaking.
I was raised by wolves, Mara. We didn't even have
to answer the phone using on thumbs jk um, Mandy,

(28:42):
Except Colorado has the national popular Vote compact when the
block of other states come aboard, wouldn't it be hilarious
if Donald Trump won the popular vote and then we
could go and go to our beloved governor and say, who,
thank god you signed up for that national popular vote thing?

Speaker 7 (29:02):
Right? Am I?

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Jared am I? The National popular vote is the stupidest
thing I've ever seen, so stupid. We have a federalist system,
you guys, for a reason. Each state is autonomous. We
may work collaboratively with our neighbors and our other states,
but we are autonomous. It's why Wyoming can have freedom

(29:24):
and low taxes and Colorado has not freedom because we're autonomous.
I should not be able to dictate what Wyoming has
to do, and Wyoming should be able to dictate what
Colorado does. But that doesn't work that way. Just kidding.

(29:44):
Let me see, Mandy, I took my twenty year old
niece to the polls in Linkewood today to vote in
person on a paper ballot, and we had your voter
guide with us, ps. Your intro music sounds like Mandy
Connell here to ruin the Day. Yes, I've heard that
from several people. Mandy, did you know that her daughter,
Lisa is one of the guest hosts on Coast to Coast.

(30:05):
I think she lives in Colorado. Wait a minute, I
know Lisa. That's Terry Gar's daughter. What what that is? Crazy?
Mandy saw ay Rod's picture on x He looks like
a deranged Bob's big Boy. You don't know what Bob's
big boy is. I'm more on that in a moment.

(30:25):
After this break, we're back and got a lot of
you already texting in on the Common Spirit health text line. Mandy,
If it's not ruins the Day, what is it?

Speaker 8 (30:35):
Rules?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Rules the day? People?

Speaker 8 (30:38):
Rules?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Come on, Mandy, don't believe the people to tell you
the US is the only country that does not use
a national popular vote to elect their leader, president, prime minister,
et cetera. No, that's not true. No, Lisa Garr is
Terry Garr's niece. Okay, thank you, thank you very much, Mandy.

(31:02):
Colorado will never tell Wyoming what to do. We have
more guns. It's a requirement to own at least two guns. Huh,
maybe I should move to Wyoming. Wyoming doesn't have prosperity.
Wyoming has jobs, not careers. As a Wyoming native, if
you move to Wyoming, you're not in a good place
in your life. You know what's funny is when I
lived in the Commonwealth of Kentucky, that's how everybody felt

(31:24):
about Kentucky. But if everybody simply turned that energy into
I want my state to be amazing instead of bitching
about it, it's very frustrating. Everybody was like, I'd love
to live somewhere else, Well, why don't you fix where
you are? Or do you want to go to someplace
else where people are getting stuff done and be a
drag on their economy. I've never understood that, but that's

(31:45):
part of my personality. I am a problem solver extraordinaiy Aron.
Have you ever been told by a boss that you
solve problems too aggressively?

Speaker 7 (31:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh yeah, I actually had a conversation with a boss once.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Here.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Let me tell you what happened. I used to work
at this little mom and pop's station for like two minutes,
and it was like three months, but it felt like
it felt like five years. But it was three months,
and it was one of those stations where everybody did everything.
And I'd already been in radio for a really long
time at this point, so not only was I doing
an airshift, I was doing all the traffic, which is

(32:22):
the scheduling of the commercials on the system that he
had sort of put together. I was recording most of
the spots because once people heard my commercials, they wanted
me to record their commercials. And I was also answering
the phones, so I was really I did everything, you know.
It was really quite spectacular for the pittance I was
being paid at the time, but I did it because
it was fun. And one day a client calls infuriated

(32:45):
that the wrong, outdated spot had played once again. So
I said, no problem, we'll take care of it. So
I went. I went into the system. I deleted the
spot that was in there, put in a whole new spot,
reran the log the right spot would play, updated the
spot to make sure it was a checked it. Called
the salesperson that was working with this client, explain to

(33:06):
them what would happen, and then I scheduled the commercial
to make good the commercials that had played that were
the wrong commercials. I handled all this in like ten minutes. Okay,
and ay, Rod, I mean you would have done the
same thing. You have done absolutely the same thing, taking
care of the problem. So later that afternoon, I get
called into the boss's office where he tells me that
they're just not used to people solving problems as aggressively

(33:28):
as I solved it. And I said aggressively because I
was the only person at the station when all this occurred,
so I'm thinking aggressively. What does that even mean? He said, Well,
you should have called the salesperson and then let the
salesperson talk to the client, and then the salesperson, I said,
and then the salesperson would have called me and asked
me to do exactly what I just did. So I

(33:50):
just cut out the middleman and took care of the problem.
And it was still, to this day the most baffling
conversation I've ever had. I not realize any.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Other boys I've had that said to me, just not
the words of aggressive, but basically the same description of
how I handled something.

Speaker 9 (34:07):
It's like, wait a minute, solved the problem, over stepped
You took away my one job to be the problem solver,
you coss, Yeah, sorry, I did your job.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, I just uh well, maybe they felt threatened. It
was shortly after that I started calling my friend Andrew
every day from work, and I was just whispering to
the phone like this, Andrew, you gotta you gotta get
me out of here, because he was the pad of
a news talk station in Gainesville. Was like, dude, you

(34:38):
gotta you gotta do something. I gotta get out of here.
I can't be here anymore. These they're not my people.
Mandy off subject.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
It's Tuesday, week before an election, and I'm sick of
talking about the election. So I'll let you guys decide
what we talk about. Mandy off subject. My husband and
I were thinking of putting a camel out laugh track
and her saying, let me be clear, have this playing
over and O as a trick of treaters come to
our door. We figure this will scare all the kids.
You know what it is scary? It is scary, Okay.

(35:09):
Lisa Gar is Terry Gar's daughter from a loyal Coast
to Coast listener.

Speaker 9 (35:14):
Oh Contrea, I moved to Colorado.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Moved from Colorado to Wyooming three years ago for the
reasons you just noted and I'm in the best place
in my life. I gotta tell you, people that live
in Wyoming that have moved there love it. So my
favorite people are from Wyoming. But they just have not
done as much to generate a massive economy like Colorado has.

(35:39):
But it might be because the people there don't want
to become like Colorado. That's just something to think about.
I'm at a job where I told my boss I
could do my required daily task by about twelve noon
and he said, work slower. I yu yi, what are
we europizza? Now, We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Connall Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock Accident and
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Speaker 3 (36:04):
No, it's Mandy Connall FM. God says y.

Speaker 10 (36:21):
Connall.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Sad thing is, you know we got the test to
stopping in the top of the many pole like it
eats the dome.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Absolutely favorite this, okay. So after listener Tie made the
first Mandy Connall song, my friend Rod's not rock commitsgated
for ross these we're here is he made a bunch
of other ones like the one that's playing right now.
So yeah, Mandy, I think the thing that bothers me
the most about Wyoming is it's just a place where

(36:54):
it seems like no one gives it their best shot.
It's a place of mediocrity or a place of contentment.
Those two things are often they look similar. I was
telling my daughter the other day that one of my
biggest uh, what's the word, frustration is not quite the

(37:15):
right word, but if I see someone that I think
has incredible potential that they are just not doing anything
to reach that for me is extremely frustrating. When you
see someone who is incredibly intelligent or incredibly talented and
they're just not willing to do the things to take

(37:38):
their lives to the maximum, I I can't be around
those people. But then there are a lot of people
who are also intelligent, people who have found something they
enjoy life that maybe doesn't sound sizzling exciting to someone else,
and they make a great living and they have a
great life and they're very happy and they don't feel
the need to give it their best all the time.

(37:59):
I mean, come on, I tell my daughter all the time.
Sometimes some days are a B effort, some days are
a C effort, some days are an A. You just
got to make sure there's a decent enough mix of
the a's that everybody overlooks the c's in any case,
Mandy good topic, I had a boss, the VP of
operations changed his description of me from aggressive to abrasive

(38:21):
once I started quoting him to himself a flip flop constantly,
and continued to do so long term until he refused
a mandatory random drug screen and got himself admitted to
the intervention program. Seems he had a cocaine problem. Yes,
sometimes there is a uh, there's a reason behind that

(38:41):
kind of behavior. Have you ever had a boss? Ayond
you don't currently have a boss?

Speaker 8 (38:45):
Well, I know you.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Well, let me just say this. Have you ever had
a boss that every conversation you had you then walked
over to your desk and sent an email and then
wrote per our conversation and recapped everything in the conversation.
Have you had to do that yet? There's nobody here
that you would have to do that now. Now, I've
had multiple bosses where that was my default position, because

(39:07):
what they would do is they would see you in
the hallway and say, hey, can you take care of
X y Z today. I'd really appreciate it. I got
to get this done. And then you would go take
care of X y Z and then in a meeting
the next day, homeboys taking credit for XYZ that I
had done the day before. So now after that, I
was like, uh uh, we're not doing that at all.

(39:28):
So I started basically when you would ask me, I
would always say, per conversation, just want to be clear.
You need me to take care of this, this and this.
And as soon as I started doing that, he stopped
taking credit for my work. Don't play with me. People
don't play with me, especially like don't mess with my work,
don't mess with my money, don't mess with my work.

(39:49):
Those are my rules. Anyway. Okay, so let me do
a couple of stories that are not necessarily at the
top of the blog. We do have another guest coming
up at one thirty interesting conversation with two of the
most interesting thinkers that I have met personally. YearIn Brooks
and Tom Cranawitter are doing this conversation about liberty after

(40:11):
the election, and we're going to talk to Tom Cranawater. Kron Hello,
his name always feels like I'm rushing through it, krona Witter.
So anyway, if you say it faster, no I'm not.
I'm not going to say it faster. Chrona Witter. That's
what I feel like. I'm tripping over my own words.
So we're gonna talk to him at one thirty. Now,

(40:32):
I want to talk about this. If you have not
mailed your ballot yet, did you drop off your ballot yet?

Speaker 8 (40:35):
Ay?

Speaker 7 (40:36):
Rod?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
No, you guys, Republicans are are behind here in dropping
off ballots. What are we doing? Why aren't Republicans voting?
Only thirty percent of Republicans have voted yet. I wait
until Friday. That's fine. I did it so that there's
no text messages, there's no calling or not that stuff.
Next Friday. No, oh, stop it. Sorry, I may depending

(40:57):
on how you voted, I may.

Speaker 11 (40:58):
I may accept that about Wednesday now, sure, no problem, Yeah,
no big deal, No big deal.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I'm concerned. And I'd like to ask my listening audience.
Although this is this is a self selected audience of
highly informed people, if people listen to talk radio are
more civically engaged, it's just a fact, it truly is.
You're here because you want to know what's going on
in this listening audience. And I'd like you to send
us a text message at five six six nine oh,
if you are not voting in this election. I'd like

(41:26):
to know why if you know someone close to you,
I mean close enough that they would confide it to
you that they're not voting, and why and you believe them.
I'd like to know, because Republicans who are unhappy about things,
not voting is the worst thing you could possibly imagine.

(41:46):
This is the worst thing you could do. And I'm
just curious if you are out there not voting for
any good reason. I don't think there are good reasons.
I really don't. I don't know if anybody in this
listening audience would say they're not voting. Five six six
n I Oh, Wyoming is on a lot of people's

(42:07):
lists for a short list for retirement, apparently, Mandy. I
don't know if it's because Nebraska sucks in Idaho blows,
but it always seems to be windy and Wyoming.

Speaker 12 (42:15):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah. Some employers do not like overachievers. They don't like
saying good job, because no one is as great as them.
Fat fact check true, Mandy. I lived in Wyoming, and
I agree it's very content. I was born and raised
in Wyoming and lived in Texas. Now, you guys, Wyoming

(42:39):
is like on the tech sign right now, Wyoming has
there are no like, there's no middle ground on Wyoming.
People either love Wyoming or they send things like this.
Wyoming is the poster state for Stockholm syndrome. I what
is what they hate with Wyoming? Wyoming has a lot

(42:59):
of flat parts that all kind of look the same.
But why don't we have some beautiful country in it? Man,
really beautiful country, Mandy. I know a lot of undercover
Trump supporters. They hide it from family and friends. My
friends think their vote doesn't matter. Haven't voted because I
don't want my ballot lit on fire. You can go

(43:20):
inside and drop it off inside the clerk's office. That's
what I would recommend. It's funny a lot of undercover
Trump supporters they hide it from family and friends. There
is a video making the rounds on X right now,
and let me see if I can if I can
find it very very quickly. It is so patently insulting
to women. Let me describe this to you. It is

(43:43):
a video starts out, oh you know what, No, A,
I don't play it because it's it's too visual. Starts
out people going to the polls on election day. Guy
with the requisite you know, like red, white, and blue hat.
He looks at his wife and goes, go get him, honey.
And then you have two women and there's the little
cardboard box ballots and they've got their pen over the

(44:06):
Donald Trump bubble. But then they look at each other
and they catch their eyes across and then they vote
for Kamala Harris and then her husband goes, I hope
you made the right choice. I mean, I mean you guys.
So what they're saying is that women have been told

(44:27):
to vote by their husbands for Donald J. Trump because
women are not smart enough to assess the two candidates,
their positions and their distastefulness for themselves. We just need
somebody to tell us what to do. Oh, it's exhausting
being this dumb. I don't know how we got through it.

(44:48):
Emily's an AAUTI who I follow on X put it perfectly.
She said, I'm gonna be honest, I really need a
commercial that works the other way, like guys pulling up
to the voting booth and priuses to hoodwink their waf Exactly.
All we can think of is that, no, I'm not
going to say that that's actually really mean, and I'm

(45:10):
not going to say that I'm just gonna move on.
If you have not and you want to mail your ballot,
you better mail it by today. You've heard me right
today if you want to make sure that you are
going to get it there in time. Not voting because
elections are rigged. Trump said, so, Lindell says, so, Rhino
Watch says, So. I know you're not serious, because if

(45:32):
you were actually very closely aligned with Rhino Watch, you
would not be listening to this show because you would
have sent more hate text messages by now. Mandy, my
daughter has a ballot ready, but lives in liberal Fort
Collins and is afraid a liberal will trash her ballot.
She's going to put it in the ballot box and
it eventually. Yeah. Yeah, here's the thing, you guys. You

(45:56):
drop your ballot box, You drop your ballot off in
the box. If somebody sets it on fire, you wait
a day or so. You go to ballot tracks and
see if they got your ballot. If not, you go
in and say, I think my ballot got burned up
in the box. Cast a provisional ballot and they'll take
care of it. By the way, I do have video
of the ballot boxes burning. And you notice how they're

(46:16):
all burning in liberal areas. This smacks of like a
race hustle. You know how we have on college campuses
these students that allegedly find a noose saying that you
know this is proof that this and we turn out
the student themselves put the news there. These are in

(46:38):
very liberal areas, so I mean Portland, Oregon, Vancouver, Washington.
These are hot beds of hardcore lefties. I could see
them trying to set a ballot box on fire and
then try to somehow blame the right, the right that
is non existent in these neighborhood where this actually happened.

(47:02):
So yeah, yeah, Mandy, do you think this voting will
be the voting this year will be low turnout nationwide?

Speaker 8 (47:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I do not. I don't think. No, I do not, Mandy.
My wife wears the pants she told me to vote
for Trump. Good for you, sir, for knowing where your
bread is buttered. Dropped off my ballot this morning and
waved an American flag at the security camera. The same
could be said of women bullying their husbands to vote

(47:31):
for Kamala. You know the kind of women who would
try and bully their husbands into voting for Kamala are
the kind of women who are married to men who
would go vote for Trump just to screw them without
actually getting in a fight. You know what I mean,
Those hen pecked dudes. You know those guys, the guys
standing outside stores carrying purses, waiting for their wife to
get done shopping while they stand there and stare ahead,

(47:54):
not really seeing anything, because all the joy has been
sucked out of their lives by these henpecking nags, and
they're one way there. One means of revenge is to
go in and vote for Donald J. Trump. Of course
they never admit it because they never hear the end
of it. Yeah yeah, Mandy Love ballot tracks used it
for years. That's why I feel elections are safe. By

(48:15):
the way, I dropped my ballot off at a ballot box.
The next day, I got to notice that my ballot
had been received yesterday. A few days later, I got
a message that my ballot had been counted. Bada bing
bada boom. I'm done voting. Love it, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Do.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
One of the drive up drop offs, the one in
Harvey Park, has a box just for the drive ups,
and there's a police officer standing there making sure it
goes in.

Speaker 8 (48:41):
There.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
You go, Mandy, you should have the wine yogi on
Tuesday so we know what to drink based on what happens.
You guys, I don't think we're going to know who
wins the presidency on Tuesday night. I just I don't
see it happening unless it is a landslide election. I
read an article today. I even put it on the
blog because again, the polls, you can't get too caught

(49:02):
up in the polls. They weren't talking necessarily about the polls,
though they were talking about the general mood. Tonight, Kamala
Harris is giving what is supposed to be her final
argument for the presidency, and she's giving it at the
Ellipse in Washington, d C. The same space that Donald
Trump gave his January sixth speech as well. She's doing

(49:24):
it specifically to evoke that day because Democrats, for some reason,
even though all of the polling data says else, says
something else, they still believe that January sixth is going
to motivate all of these independent voters to come out
and vote for Kamala Harris. It's nowhere in the polls.
It's just not shown. So they're going to make this

(49:47):
last big kick, and they got a park permit for
seventy five hundred people. When you look in rallies are
not votes. I know this. Rallies are not votes. I
don't want to say it is, but just the level
of enthusiasm that voters are having for Donald Trump versus
the lack of enthusiasm for Kamala Harris. I also have

(50:11):
a story on the blog today about the media coverage
of the election, and you know, it's been bad for
a long time when we have elections. We've known that
the big three ABC, CBS, and NBC. They're not the
big three anymore, but they're three. Media Research Center went

(50:36):
ahead and analyzed six hundred and wait a minute, let
me find out how many stories before I tell you this.
They reviewed six hundred and sixty stories about the presidential
campaign that aired on CBS, ABC or NBC evening newscasts
from July twenty first, that's the day President Biden ended
his candidacy through October twenty fifth, including weekends, coverage added

(51:00):
up to twenty four hours fifteen minutes, almost evenly divided
among the three networks. Now, what did it show? It
showed that those three networks treated Democratic Vice President Kamala
Harris to seventy eight percent positive coverage. Guess what the
percentage was of negative coverage for Donald Trump. She was

(51:25):
seventy eight percent positive. Donald Trump was eighty five percent negative.
The difference between the two candidates is far greater than
twenty sixteen, when both Trump and challenger Hillary Clinton received
mostly negative coverage that was ninety one percent negative for
Trump and seventy nine percent negative for Clinton. It's even

(51:47):
greater than in twenty twenty, when Biden got sixty six
percent positive and ninety two percent negative for Trump. Now,
the other part about this that they point out, I'm
going to the bottom here. The coverage has been borderline absurd.

(52:10):
Most of the evaluative statements Network News heard about the
vice president were not about any specific policy or controversy.
Nearly all of these general evaluations ninety percent were positive.
One college student proclaimed on Nightly New NBC Nightly News.
Having someone who looks like you as the same values
as you on the ticket is exciting. I haven't felt

(52:33):
this kind of excitement since Obama, says another voter on CBS.
We're so excited about the Harris Whil's ticket and the
hope and the joy that from ABC News. It's not
just that, it is the stories that they decided not
to pursue. When it comes to Vice President Harris, they
haven't asked her, for the most part, about the stories

(52:55):
of her husbands slapping a former girlfriend or the stories
of her plagiariye multiple parts of our book. They're just
ignoring it. So it's we all know this. We already
knew that, we've known this for a long time, long, long,
long time. But to see it broken out like this
and to see how bad things have gotten, I don't

(53:18):
know what we do next. One thing I do know
is that I'm hoping. I'm hoping we'll see, We'll see
if they can get a new slur to attack the
Republican candidate with. But I think we finally reached past
the point of everybody being a Nazi because it means nothing.
They have completely devalued the term nazi by applying it

(53:41):
to anyone they disagree with. So now when everybody's like,
Sin says a Nazi, I'm like, oh God, shut up,
just stop talking. Do you even hear yourself? Just listen
to the words that are coming out of your mouth.
They're all terrible. It really has no effect whatsoever. So
we shall see Mandy I live in Fort Collins and

(54:04):
drop my ballot in a ballot box in Fort Collins,
tracked it and it's counting. Person that is so paranoid
on voting in Fort Collins is exactly what's wrong with
my Republican Party. I will tell you this. The Republican
Party has done a great job in reinforcing the notion
that voting is useless and all it's done is elect Democrats.

(54:24):
So maybe you think they would wake up and do
the right thing and stop saying that if the game
is not perfect, it doesn't mean we take our marbles
and go home. It means we play the game that
we have to play. And right now, this is it,
and it's all about voting. Turn in your ballots. Turn
them in. There are so many ballot initiatives that are

(54:47):
so important. If you don't understand the ballot initiatives, use
my voter guide, use Roskamenski's voter guide. It's right at
the job of the blog today mine is so you
know anyway, all right, that's not even all this stuff.
Jeff Bezos at the Washington Post actually wrote a column
defending his decision to not endorse in the presidential election,

(55:09):
meaning the Washington Post, not Jeff Bezos, but the Washington Post.
And he is so right. Let me just read this
one tiny part. Presidential endorsements do nothing to tip the
scales of an election. No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are
going to say, I'm going with a newspaper a's endorsement. None.
What a presidential endorsements actually do is create a perception

(55:30):
of bias, a perception of non independence. Ending them is
a principal decision, and it's the right one. Eugene Meyer,
publisher of the Washington Post from nineteen thirty three to
nineteen forty six, thought the same, and he was right
by itself. Declining to endorse presidential candidates is not enough
to move us very far up the trust scale, but

(55:50):
it's a meaningful step in the right direction. I wish
we had made the change earlier than we did, in
a moment further from the election and the emotions around it.
That was inadequate play and not some intentional strategy. So
there you go. This Texter just said what Republicans are saying,
don't vote. Are you kidding?

Speaker 7 (56:09):
Me.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Have you not been paying attention. It's still out there
all over the place. If you want to give yourself
some mental stimulation after being inundated with slick mailers full
of lies and all kinds of nonsense on the airwaves
and television channels, I have a suggestion there is an
event that will be taking place right after the election

(56:30):
where you can sit around and listen to two smarty
pants talk about the future of liberty based on what
just happened. One of those smarty pantss is Thomas Cronowit
or who joins me right now? Hey? Tom, how you doing?

Speaker 7 (56:41):
Hey Mandy?

Speaker 4 (56:42):
I am in West Hollywood, California right now, looking out
of the Hollywood Hills, and I was just interviewing some
really smart, bright progressive California voters and they asked me
to pass on a message that if Americans care about
their democracy, they're supposed to vote for commaw Maharisha.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I'm sorry, and that's an awful way to start and
interview Thomas.

Speaker 7 (57:08):
I just it really is.

Speaker 8 (57:11):
Well, Look, we're getting to et right, We're going to
have a couple of smarty pants and I get to
join them, and two nights after the election, this is
gonna be on November seventh, and.

Speaker 12 (57:23):
You know, we don't regardless of what happened, regardless of
who wins, there's huge amounts of work to be done
to carve out a future of freedom in the United States.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
And that's including even if Donald Trump wins.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
There there is so much work, more.

Speaker 8 (57:40):
Than a president can do alone. And by November.

Speaker 10 (57:44):
Seventh, we might not even know who.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Is Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
I got the bowl.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah, I don't think we're going to know.

Speaker 10 (57:52):
I hope this doesn't.

Speaker 13 (57:53):
Happen, but we could have cities on fire.

Speaker 8 (57:56):
I mean remember in the summer of.

Speaker 10 (57:59):
Twenty twenty, many Americans.

Speaker 8 (58:01):
Remind us they're willing to torch their own cities when they're.

Speaker 7 (58:04):
Disgruntled and unhappy with things.

Speaker 8 (58:06):
So that might be a good time to, you know,
come together and try to have some reason, calm, thoughtful
conversations about where we are right now and what we're
going to do. And that's why we're doing this event
Beyond the Ballots.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
It is called Beyond the Ballot. It's a live stream,
so you can sit in your pajamas and listen to
Yawn and Brooks and Tom Kranawitter be moderated by Mike
Williams and talk all things liberty and capitalism. You know, Tom,
you mentioned that it's it's not as if Donald Trump
gets elected and it's all sunshine and roses when it
comes to liberty. But now this is a giant butt.

(58:42):
There is no comparison between the two parties right now
when it comes to the willingness to protect the rights
of the people.

Speaker 13 (58:50):
In my view, well I would go even farther.

Speaker 8 (58:52):
I think one party has completely lost its mind, has
completely has completely lost touch with reality. They don't even
know the difference between a man and a woman, and
and so.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
You know, these things are really important.

Speaker 8 (59:06):
Here's another thing I want to emphasize. Freedom is really messy,
It's really difficult. I always reminded. I was reading some
biographies of the founders, and you know, if you went
and asked, say, Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, do you
guys agree that all human beings have you know, individual
natural rights? They would say, sure, we agree on that
fundamental principle. And then you ask a policy question like

(59:29):
should there be a bank of the United States? Oh,
my goodness, these guys, I go to war against each other.
Right they the Founders disagree strongly on all kinds of
policy questions and matters of details, and I think some
of that's going to come through. I'm really good friends
with Yarn and disagree. We disagree on some important policy

(59:52):
questions and questions of prudence and strategy and tactics, though
we agree very much on fundamental principle of individual liberty.
And look, we have a gigantic, progressive administrative state that
is snuffing out liberty.

Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
It has taken one hundred and fifty years to build.

Speaker 8 (01:00:11):
This thing, and it's going to require not just a president.
It's going to require that Congress gets involved. It's going
to require that the.

Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
Courts get involved.

Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
And above all, it's going to require two one hundred
or two hundred and fifty million Americans demanding that their
government crawled back inside the box of the constitution that
we the people authorized, and so.

Speaker 7 (01:00:34):
Shaping that culture.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
Persuading people, inspiring people that constitutional government is good for
their lives, good for their liberty, good good for the
future of their children requires a lot of work. And
that's what we're going to talk about in this conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
We're going to have.

Speaker 8 (01:00:51):
It's going to be live streaming beyond the ballot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
You know, Tom, I don't disagree with any of what
you just said, but I just think to myself as
a citizenry. Okay, so many Americans have completely abdicated their responsibilities,
their basic civic duties, and we've seen such an erosion
in our in our not in our The politicians, I

(01:01:17):
think are just a I don't know if politicians are
a leading edge or a trailing edge of the moral
decay of society. I don't know, you know, not quite
sure which are those things. But I am more worried
that we have created an electorate who is very invested
in getting their STiMi checks, but also very invested in
not paying any taxes and putting the burden on other people.

(01:01:40):
We have put more and more people on various forms
of the government NOLL, whether they're getting Obamacare subsidies, or
they've been added to Medicaid, or they are getting some
kind of foods assistance or whatever. That we've now created
a society that is not capable of doing the things
you're talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:01:59):
Well, you're right, and number one, that's why it's important
that all of us who care about freedom, and we're
teachers in one form or another.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
We keep doing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:09):
I need to keep doing.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
What I'm doing.

Speaker 10 (01:02:11):
You Ross, you guys need to keep doing.

Speaker 7 (01:02:13):
What you're doing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
We need to teach and preach and reach and inspire
everywhere we can.

Speaker 13 (01:02:18):
And one of the things.

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
I'm going to talk about at are beyond the ballot.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
Conversation is what.

Speaker 10 (01:02:24):
A president can do.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
There are certain things legally.

Speaker 10 (01:02:28):
Constitutionally a president can do and other things, many things.

Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
That a president cannot do. But many modern presidents forget
how much they can shape opinion if they start talking to.

Speaker 7 (01:02:39):
The American people.

Speaker 8 (01:02:40):
Franklin Roosevelt, who I think was one of our worst,
most most horrific presidents we ever had, he figured this out.
He figured out how to use the White House, the
position of the president to inspire and teach and persuade
huge numbers of Americans. We need that on behalf of liberty.
And I think a president can if a president started

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talking to the American people directly frequently and highlighting all
the waste and the corruption and the fraud in the
federal government, in the bureaucratic state, if he started interviewing
directors of agencies and having honest, frank conversations about how
many business owners there those agencies harass and how much

(01:03:23):
they make everything more expensive, and write in all these
things and let the American people see with their own
eyes what they're actually funding.

Speaker 7 (01:03:32):
What they're actually.

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
Authorizing when they vote for these progressive politicians.

Speaker 10 (01:03:36):
There's a lot that a president can do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Well, you know, there is a lot of president can do,
and there's a lot of responsibility there, and like, well,
I'm going to take it down to a closer to
us level. I think now we all know I don't
agree politically with anything really with Jared Poulis, our governor.
My big frustration is that I've never seen him lead
and be out front of policy. I've never seen him

(01:04:01):
get out and aggressively. He keeps saying wants to dick
the income tax to zero, but unless somebody else puts
it on the ballot, he doesn't do anything. And that's
been a big frustration. I think he has a lot
of political capital, but I also think he is carefully
managing his image so he can be all things to
every person when he runs for president.

Speaker 8 (01:04:19):
Are your thoughts on that, Well, let me pivot and
talks about a similar kind of situation. So Donald Trump
just put out.

Speaker 13 (01:04:28):
A really interesting idea.

Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
He did a big interview with Joe Rogan recently and
he mentioned the idea of He's been talking about Paris.
I don't like the.

Speaker 13 (01:04:37):
Idea of tariffy in general.

Speaker 8 (01:04:38):
However, However, now Trump is throwing an interesting wrinkle. He's like,
what if we got rid of income taxes?

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
Period?

Speaker 8 (01:04:44):
Got rid of all income taxes?

Speaker 13 (01:04:46):
Now, that's fascinating.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
That's actually how the United States federal government used to
work prior.

Speaker 13 (01:04:51):
To the sixteenth Amendment.

Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
And when there are.

Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
No income taxes, if you get rid of all all.

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
The other forms of taxes first, and then you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
Have a tariff system.

Speaker 8 (01:05:01):
The beauty of tariffs is there's a built in natural
limit on the amount of money that the federal government
can bring in, because when the political class gets too
greedy and they keep ratcheting tariffs higher and higher and higher,
eventually ordinary Americans say, screw it, I'm not buying that
stuff anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:05:18):
It's too expensive, and.

Speaker 8 (01:05:20):
All of a sudden, the political class cannot get any
more money, which means they have to prioritize.

Speaker 10 (01:05:25):
They got to sit and say, okay, we you know,
we really want.

Speaker 8 (01:05:28):
To, I don't know, go go plant trees and certain
racial minority neighborhoods. But we also need a navy, and
the navy seems more important than planting trees in certain
you know, neighborhoods. So we got to use our money
to fund a navy. Those are the kinds of great,
big ideas.

Speaker 13 (01:05:45):
That a president can sell.

Speaker 8 (01:05:47):
And market and explain to the American people. Part of
the bigger package. I want a president who will actually
teach Americans all the benefits that come from constitutional government.
A government is a limited and confined to the constitution.
That doesn't you know, require stealing huge amounts of money.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
From other productive people, and.

Speaker 8 (01:06:08):
Help Americans understand why this is good for their lives,
their future, their kids.

Speaker 13 (01:06:13):
There.

Speaker 7 (01:06:13):
Remember, one of the.

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
Crowning purpose of our Constitution in the preamble is not
just to protect our own liberty. It's for the liberty
of our posterity, our kids, our grandkids. That's why we
ordained and ratified the Constitution. And we've become so selfish.
We're looking for the quickest handout, subsidy, you know, whatever
it is we have forgotten. We're making our nation worse

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for our kids and our grandkids. Let's have a president
who uses the bully pulpit of the presidency to remind
Americans what it means to be free, self governing, responsible
adult citizens.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Tom Craniwittter is my guest. You can go to the
Beyond the Ballot and Evening with Yaron brook and Tom
Kronawitter put on by the Defenders of Capitalism project cost
of wak up in fifteen bucks, and it's more conversation
like this, Tom. I am going to be on an airplane,
but I'm going to try and do this event anyway
because it is online. It doesn't matter. I should be
able to do that. I know it's going to be
a big, smashing success. But let's get you on soon

(01:07:13):
to continue this conversation on the air as well.

Speaker 7 (01:07:15):
Thanks a lot many, I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
Please everyone go to Defenders Offcapitalism dot com.

Speaker 7 (01:07:20):
That's where you can register.

Speaker 8 (01:07:21):
And I look forward to seeing and here being people
on November seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
All right, thanks Tom, and we got to take a break.
It's all on my blog as well. I got a
lot of positives about Tom crona winner. He and Yaren Brooks,
the guy who's going to be doing this with him
is equally as interesting to listen to, So this isn't
like a private thing I went to on Monday night
last night. Wait, what is today? Tuesday? Yes, last night,

(01:07:47):
Sorry about that. Last night I went to the first
meeting of a group called Douglas County Citizen Room and
it was started by my friend Debora Flora and her
husband Jonathan Flora, because they in a place for people
to gather and have conversations about the issues facing our
county without it being hyper political. The purpose of the

(01:08:09):
group is not to be political. The purpose of the
group is to seek solutions and have discussions and do
those things back in olden times where people who have
different views got together and talked about things in a
respectful fashion. It was delightful. Last night's was about public
safety in Douglas County. It was so interesting, so so interesting,

(01:08:31):
and I am so happy to be living in Douglas
County where all of the law enforcement agencies cooperate. And
here's the kicker. At one point one of the we
had an assistant chief, the police chief of Castle Rock,
the police chief of Lone Tree, Douglas County Sheriff, and

(01:08:52):
I oh in John Kellner DA DA John Kellner, So
we really were well represented. And one of the things
that was said, essentially it's not verbatim here, he said, look,
you know what, Douglas County residents are great witnesses. We
don't have problems getting people to work with police, so
when a crime is committed, we have multiple people that
can help us. And they literally told us how to

(01:09:12):
be a better witness. They also told us though they
had very a good working relationship with other agencies, say
the Aurora PD. There was a comment made about Doug
Co officers going into Aurora with the help of the
Aurora Police Department on a stolen car call, and where

(01:09:33):
they went to scope out the stolen car, there was
like twenty stolen cars in the immediate vicinity. And he
just said they didn't do anything. And Douglas County is
not understaffed. Their departments are staffed because people want to
work there because guess what, the community appreciates them. Douglas

(01:09:54):
County residents appreciate them. Nobody ran around and talked about
defund the police and then one why crime went up.
You know all these geniuses that got on the news
talking about how we spend too much money on policing,
and more police don't doesn't make us more safe. Where
are all those reporters tracking down those people now? Because
we just did that experiment and they were wrong, absolutely

(01:10:17):
one hundred percent wrong. When we get back, we're going
to do a little bit of two minute drill and
then we are going to talk about some stuff that
has nothing to do with the election, specifically, what do
you do when everybody loves something and you hate it?
I have an example of that today on the blog.

(01:10:40):
I'm just curious because I discovered a new hatred for
something that is so popular right now that I'm like,
is it me?

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
It's always you people.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
The two minute drill at two Hey, we're I go
to two minute warnings, repidfire stories of the day that
we don't have more time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
For him type.

Speaker 7 (01:11:25):
Let's call this it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Will take longer than two minutes. Turn out, here's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
All right, you guys, that you know that Donald J.
Trump sat down with Joe Rogan last Friday and that podcast,
as of right now, has been viewed over thirty six
million views just on YouTube, and Joe Rogan released it
on x because he believed YouTube was throttling the reach
of the podcast. Now, in what can only be described

(01:11:53):
as a perfect example of the disastrous nature of Kamala
Harris's campaign, she had leaked out last week that she
is thinking about doing a podcast with Joe Rogan, but
now Trump's already done it. To Joe Rogan's credit, he
did release a statement about why Harris had not done
the podcast. He said, for the record, the Harris campaign

(01:12:14):
is not passed on doing the podcast. They offered a
date for Tuesday, but I would have had to travel
to her and they only wanted to do an hour.
I strongly feel the best way to do it is
in the studio in Austin. My sincere wish is to
just have a nice conversation and get to know her
as a human being. I really hope we can make
it happen. It's been very interesting to see people on

(01:12:35):
social media react to that. Odd that Donald Trump, also
running for president, had the time but she can't be bothered.
There's also rumors that she asked it to be limited
to an hour and they just said no. I wonder
what that would be.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Drill it too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Don't get too excited about learning the new name of
the new Hesboala chief. That's right, Naim Cassam. He's old,
ready seventy one years old, but he is the cleric
who drew the short straw and is now the head
of Hesbela. I fully expect that the Israeli Defense Forces
will dispatch him to his seventy two versions as soon

(01:13:13):
as possible. They won't even have time to get the
name plate for his door. But I just thought we'd
take a minute and honor his reign as the head
of Hesbela before it is over. It too, okay, my friends.
What's fascinating is that when something happens to Republicans, the
left always loves to say things like, hey, you think

(01:13:34):
you're being throttled on social media, go start your own.
But when they think they're being throttled on social media,
all hell breaks loose. Apparently, politicians on both sides of
the aisle have struggled to win the attention they once
enjoyed on the platform formally known as Twitter. This according
to the Washington Post review of months of data for

(01:13:55):
the top one hundred top tweeting congressional accounts. But some
of their tweets are going mega viral, but only from Republicans.
Imagine that the fix is in and now they think
X is throttling democrats. X has seen a dramatic exodus
of users since must took over in twenty twenty two.
And here's what I have to say to all of them.
If you don't like having your post throttled, go start

(01:14:18):
your own social media outlet.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Okay, it too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Uh, we have to talk about this pickle madness. We've
reached peak pickle. I believe it's here a rod with
Jimmy John's new pickle witch. Have you seen this thing?

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Yeah, oh yep. The veto pickle Witch, according to the
press release, is salami cupa cola and prolong cheese, fresh slice, lettuce, tomato,
onion oil and vinegar and oregano basil inside of a pickle.
You know, no bread, just a pickle.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
I'm actually intrigued because the Jimmy John's pickle is delicious
and Jimmy John's usually is delicious.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
I'm down. You can always get a turkey pickle witch
that just has turkey inside the pickle. Like I love pickles.
I have like ten different kinds of pickled items in
my fridge right now. But what is happening with pickles?
Why is everything pickle flavored?

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
We are out of control people in America. When someone says, hey,
this is really good in America, we go more that
it would be better, and here we are. The pickle
witch is actually a thing that is happening.

Speaker 7 (01:15:27):
Too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
A very interesting story on Denver seven about it is
getting harder and harder to date in Colorado because there
is a growing gender gap in politics. What's funny about
this article is that I just had a conversation with
a friend of mine. She has a son in his
early thirties. Nice looking kid, good job, he's funny, he's personable,

(01:15:54):
he loves the outdoors, he gets along with his parents.
He's gonna be a great dad someday. And this kid
cannot find someone to date because he doesn't want to
talk about politics and he's not a screaming left winger.
He's had girls say I've never had so much fun
on a date, but I can't date you unless you
are liberal. These women are going to die alone, and

(01:16:15):
these men are going to find somebody who appreciates them.
I just don't get it. A twenty twenty three survey
from the American Enterprise Institute showed forty six percent of
white gen Z women are liberal. Well, only twenty eight
percent of men identify as liberal. That leaves a massive gap.
And I'm telling you right now, do not put politics
ahead of relationships, because the Democratic Party isn't going to

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be there when you have your first baby, or when
your parents die, or when you need a support after
a really bad day at work. Find a person and
have a real relationship, devoid of politics, and you will
be so much happier. And finally.

Speaker 7 (01:16:51):
It too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
The twenty twenty five concert list at Red Rocks is
beginning to fill out just a little bit, and boy howdy,
there are some great shows on this including two shows
for Sting Weird Owl's coming on June twenty fourth. I
won't be going to that hold on it's all a classics,
it's a hit store. And then I am already getting
my tickets for Teddy Swims on October twenty sixth. If

(01:17:14):
you don't know what Teddy swims, you're missing out love him.
I've already seen forget Sting. I saw the police at
Red Rocks where I'm going to see that Sting show,
So that's gonna happen. Yeah, well, I've seen Sting multiple
times as of recently. I saw him with Paul Simon,
who looked like his podiatrist on stage, like, oh who's that.
Oh no, that's Paul Simon, not his podiatrists. I just

(01:17:36):
love that. I can say I've seen the police in
const og. There you go, all these nerds pickle nerds
rather from the text line, had the pickle witch yesterday.
It was amazing. Don't hate well, you two can have
the pickle witch until November fourteenth. At James Jonathan's, I
saw on can we just have.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
A broader moment for the hatred for limited time items
on menus? Because if you love them then they're gone,
If you hate them while they're gone anyway, But it's
I hate limited time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
This is just a test run, a test run, but still, okay,
let me just say this, let me just throw this
out to you. If you go to Jimmy John's in
three months, say, dude, can I get this sandwich on
a pickle? You know what they're gonna say, Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
They're gonna put it on a pickle. I mean, aren't
they much larger pickles than they probably have? Probably, I
don't know they have big pickles. Big I mean the
bigger sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Any kind of like a cucumber, a zucchini. The larger
it gets, the worst it tastes. Yeah, just saying correct.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
But I'm looking at these sandwiches and I think, I mean,
their pickles are big. So maybe I'm wrong, but I
feel like these are bigger pickles than they normally have.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
So well, I'm gonna need you to experiment because this
would be so friendly.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
Yes, it was the Unwitch by far in terms of
them setting setting the standard. Yeah, like their Unwitch is
incredible and very good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
The Unwitch. Yeah, it's just a sandwich wrapped in lettuce. Nope,
the Unwitch. I just go whatever sald like at subway
or whatever. I just say, make it a salad. Go
to Jimmy Johnson. Try the Unwitch. Okay, incredibly good, but
I need you to try this. We we have to
get tomorrow on your way in. I want you to
go get a pickle, which we can evaluate it. You
get it. I don't want one. How about I give

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you the money you buy it?

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
Noney, I don't have the Money's not the problem. It's
my laziness for this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Oh okay, well then maybe I'll be about to do
I drive by one to get to there.

Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
You go. I do not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I'll have to find out. I'll pay for it and
you get it. No, you don't have to pay for it.
We just need to bring back the Taco Bell. Inturedo
says this text, the INCUREDO. That's old school right there. Well,
you know, Taco Bell only has like five ingredients. They
just repackage them and name it something else. That's why
their breakfast is basically let me see talking. Yeah, hang

(01:19:53):
on Bell and you'll care of Taco Bell.

Speaker 8 (01:19:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
The incuredo is yummy. It was trying to find the
what was actually in it, though, I'm going to copycat recipes.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Compose with a flower tortilla filled with seasoned ground beef,
taco meat, bean, diased onion, cheddar cheese, and red.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Sauce yes on top of it, and then melty cheese
on top. Yeah, name chatty, thank you, text for taking
it back to that We'll be right back after this.
I have ust say now. The text line is full
of people talking about incurridos and how good they were.

Speaker 6 (01:20:34):
Uh this one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I met my husband at Taco Bell. He made me
a mean churiedo with extra cheese. We've been married for
forty seven years. Nothing says I love you more than
extra cheese. You know, Mandy, you can get the in
and Out Burger protein style burger with the lettuce instead
of you guys, I don't love the in and out Burger.
I just had that delightful. I know I've done it before,

(01:20:55):
but I just don't think that's not my favorite burger
of choice.

Speaker 5 (01:20:59):
In your talking about like having it in the two
states worth the best, which is Vegas and California.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
That's the only places I've had and I have not
had any Colorado, and I don't have it here because
it's even worse hair. Yeah, it's not bad, correct, I
just don't understand like the cult following for it. Correct.

Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
It is the again, the most misunderstood word in the
English language, which is overrated. That doesn't mean that it's
just not just not to the foyone else. Yeah, Windy's better,
good times better and again not a slight just.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Just it's not horrible. Yeah, I say that to Chuck
all the time. I'm like, you know what, it was,
perfectly fine, perfectly fine, perfectly perfectly fine, is just exactly
what it is. Did it Did it satisfy my hunger?
Did I enjoy it?

Speaker 7 (01:21:45):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
But the protein style with the lettuce is really really
a lot of places you can do that and just
ask them to give you a lettuce bun and they'll
take care so you can do all of that stuff.
I I'd rather just if I'm going to have a burger, though,
just give me the bun and I will mitigate all
of those Like I'll have the burger the way I
want to have the burger. Having it with lettuce is
not as satisfying to me, of course it's not. Yeah,

(01:22:08):
So I'm just rather I'm gonna have the burger, but
I'm not gonna have one every day, you know what
I'm saying. If I really want a burger, I'm gonna
have the burger I want, but I'm not gonna do
that even once a week.

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
Those really really to find the right ones, but they're
really really at home low car buns. Yeah, to find
the right one, because most of them are terrible. Yeah,
it tastes like cardboard, but there's some right ones out there.

Speaker 7 (01:22:28):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I mail ordered some low car bread from a company
called Royo Royo, and it is not cheap, and I
keep it in my freezer, so I literally take it
out as I use it, and it is outstanding their bread.

Speaker 7 (01:22:43):
I have that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
I have one piece of their toast every day and
it has two net carbs in it. But it's actually
delicious and it tastes like bread. So a Rod's right.
If you want to do low car bread, you've got
to shop around. Oh, and we stock up. We if
we find it, we're stocking up.

Speaker 7 (01:22:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Usually out of stock and said in and out is
kind of a rip off. I've weighed every beef patty
and they're only like one point six ounces. And I
look up at the menu, look at that price, and
tell me ye tell me that again, yepix ounces.

Speaker 12 (01:23:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
We always get to how what but how much? I mean,
but how much? How the way there's no way, no way,
no are they saying just the patty.

Speaker 11 (01:23:22):
Or the whole b the patty, the meat paddy double
double no, just one meat patty, one single meant single meat.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
And they say they weigh their food out. That's how
they know they're not just a weird if you're taking
a part of burger. I just want to say, hats
off to you, because I weigh my food when I
make my food at home. Yeah, like, I am a
I have a I have two scales. Now, I weigh everything,
So I get that. But I've never weighed something that
I bought somewhere else and brought it back to my house.
You are like next level.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
Then watch a commercial from like any fast food restaurant,
and then take the picture of the commercial and then
what you actually get, and then you know you don't
even have to weigh. Well that's not the same obvious
Yeah yeah, but yeah, Also you always gotta do a
double double in and out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
What are we talking about here? What does the double
double get you? Two patties? Does it get you double cheese?
Is that why it's a a you double cheese? I
don't know. It's definitely two patties. But why is there
a double double? Why don't you just call it a
single double? It's probably a double double. It's pack up both, Okay,
I'm just checking.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:24:20):
Point is, you never just get a single in and out,
all right, okay, because it's so tiny. Yeah, it's puny.
I mean, you get too tiny burgers. I'm going Crystal Burger.
I got I get two double doubles. We don't have
Crystal Burger here. Oh gosh, it's so sad.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Sorry, sorry, sorry, Mandy, del Frisco's nest Burger. I'm trying that.
I love Del Frisco's. Okay, we're gonna come back, and
I got actual stuff to talk about in just a minute.
We're gonna do that next. First of all, Mandy, how
about White Castle? No, okay, no that I'm a crystal
girl one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
That might be the only place. Now mind you, this
was in Vegas with a couple of drinks. Uh, that
might be the only place that's ever made me like
crinkle cut fries.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Well, I prefer the Southern version of white Castle called
Crystal Burger. That's what I grew up with, and they
are magical. And when I go back to the South,
it's one of the first places that we stop. Not
gonna lie. Oh, it's just it's very similar to White Castle,
but they have corn pups like little tiny corn dogs.
Are there sliders not mushy? They're perfectly mushy and delicious

(01:25:26):
as those Well, no, I'm saying the mushiness was not appetizing.
I love the muschinists. It's part of the because the
buns are steamed. See that's why I like that.

Speaker 7 (01:25:34):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
The rest of it is love that crinkle cut so good,
so good. I want to talk about something. Speaking of
things that some people like and other people's don't, we
now have Hey, Rob, how are you on escape rooms?

Speaker 5 (01:25:47):
What is your feeling about escape rooms? I love escape
rooms as bad as I am at trivia. I think
I feel like I'm decent at escape rooms. Why I
can't figure it out right away?

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I'm not a team player. I'm not a team player,
right I could do it by myself and just try
and figure it out by myself. I think I would
like it better because I don't like other people like
running around looking at crap that doesn't matter, trying to
make issues out of stuff that doesn't matter. It just
is all unnecessarily confusing.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
Then you need to change your name to Mindy because
there's no I in team. But there needs to be
an eye in Mandy because I see that. Yes, yes,
you need to work on that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
No, but I mean I get why people like them.
And apparently, according to USA Today, we have one of
the top ten escape rooms in the country right here
in Littleton. It's experience probably total experience. Mystic Escape Room
at five seven seven six South rap Street and uh
Littleton was named eighth best escape room in the US.

(01:26:55):
USA Today said Mystic Escape Room sets itself apart from
other locations because if it's truly unique adventures, while fun
is a key ingredient. Attention to detail, set's Mystic Escape
Room apart one such detail automation. Many escape rooms rely
on simple puzzles and padlocks, but Mystic Escape Room conjures
something extraordinary. I bet it would be a good social

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experiment to ask people what difficulty they choose, if you
were able to choose easy, medium, and hard. Easy like, hey, we.

Speaker 5 (01:27:27):
Got it, we experienced it was fun, it was easy,
we did it. Medium like just enough, like intermediate or
do you want to be challenged and get frustrated, but
then the satisfaction if you do a hard one well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Ambulet of Time is one of theirs. It's an Indiana
Jones themed adventure. It has a six out of ten
difficulty ratings. Okay, groups have sixty minutes to complete it.
The Pink Panther Adventures is described as the ultimate heist.
Groups must steal a prestigious diamond in sixty minutes. It
is a seven out of ten difficulty rating. Finally, the
Book of Soul's Adventure is about a lost monastery curse.

(01:27:58):
Groups enter a secret chamber inside an abandoned monastery to
solve riddles in sixty minutes. This is the hardest adventure
with eight out of ten difficulty ratings.

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
So you can kind of get a little bit of everything.
Give me a solid intermediate. I don't want it to
be too easy, but I also want to have like
an experience where you have no clue what the hell's
going on, and you're raising time to you're like, well,
we're not going to get this, We're ft.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Well, Pam just said, what I do. I only do
escape rooms with my smartest friends and family. I do that,
and then I, honestly I just kind of stand there
and just wait for somebody to solve something so we
can go to the next room or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
Because you're not doing it yourself. You sabotage the team.
I don't sabotage anybody. You just said you stand and
let other people do it. You don't help, just antaging.
You are telling me, if you are in an escape room,
you stand back and let them do it because you
rather do it so much more just yourself, that you're
not going to help the team.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
No, because ultimately I know I'm not gonna die if
I don't escape, right, So there's no pressure.

Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
It's not about pressure. It's about fun. Obviously, you go
into a horror movie, you know it's not really not
gonna watch it, not.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
One of those things that I think is fun, much
like playing slot machines. I don't understand why people do
that either. But going in, you're in there already, you're
with friends, you're with family. Yep. Because now when somebody says, hey,
do you want to do an escape room, I'm like,
have Nope.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
But in the past, you're telling me you just go
in and don't contribute to the team. You just stand there,
let people figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
I'll look around and see if there's anything that somebody
else needs to check out.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
So you don't give them your all. They didn't deserve it,
and the curs escape rooms that they didn't deserve.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Your own, and nobody gets my all on un escape.
Terrible team player. I just said I'm not a very
good team well, and I'm calling you on it again
because that's particulate. Part of being a sentient aware person
is knowing the things you are not good at. This
is one of them. Do better be a better team player.
My son is a US Navy nuclear engineer. We've done

(01:29:51):
several with him, and he's always finished in ten minutes,
and you got to pay like forty bucks or something
ten minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:29:58):
For me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
It's Beatles. Everybody he loves the Beatles except me. I
just don't get their music. You know, a lot of
people don't like the Beatles. It is actually quite common.

Speaker 7 (01:30:06):
Did you know this?

Speaker 5 (01:30:08):
I would like to wish I didn't know that, because
there are people that like the Beatles and there are
people that are nuts get.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
It easily, not close. I don't know if I agree
with that. Okay, well who you got instead? Because you're stones?
Get the hell out of an incredible music. Led Zeppelin
the most Oh no no, no, no, no, no, no,
Back to the Stones. One of that right there?

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
Another one Stones Floyd two of the most overrated bands
of all time. And I don't mean overrated in a
way where you know they're good, just not because everyone
says no, they're not.

Speaker 7 (01:30:40):
Stop.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Yes they are the Beatles like a million times. But
I like certain Beatles albums beyond more than others million
levels of stratosphere. But if you listen to the Abbey
Road and the White Album on repeat, I love those
I love those albums, But there are other albums of
theirs that I'm like, Eh, I don't love him. Okay, well,

(01:31:01):
I'm gonna take a trip to Optopus his garden. I'll
buy my loans and that I like that song. That's
a great song. I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just saying,
you know, I understand why some people don't like a
band of the Beatles. I'm not a Stones fan either,
so they got nothing going for him. Mandy, we're living
in a giant escape room with no answer, big no
on them. That's a texture that gets me right there.

(01:31:22):
How about this one? Did you see the rap artist
Ludacris paid an escape room employee to repeatedly be surprised
at how well he did the escape room. What what's
kind of funny? Actually, could you Imaginela?

Speaker 7 (01:31:37):
I did it?

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Oh you did it again? Oh he found the next clue, Luda.
Oh my gosh, that's so funny. The Beatles are the
best man ever, says this text That's like saying Jimmy
Hendrix is the best guitar player of all time. The
dumbest thing I've heard in my life. Now, I'm not
going to say it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Me wrong, You're you're also wrong to good heavens. The

(01:32:00):
Beetles suck God. There's a lot of beetles. Take here
on this, on this text line right now.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
It's okay. There's a lot of people that like the Beatles.
There's a lot of people that are wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
It's fine. Here, we've got this person has said their
top four number four, the Stones, number three. Yes I
disagree with that, ranking number two, Zeppelin, you can make
that argument. Number one, rush, Oh my god, So that
you know, you know, the Beatles are the most influential
rock band of all time, not even close.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
That is accurate, best influential, whatever word you want to put.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Number one across the board. Think Floyd is ten times
better than all of them, says this text.

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
Sir Floyd is let me look the real quick in
the dictionary, and I'll look at that synonymous.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
With noise weird. Oh you are right here, garbage. Spend
the night in jail. That's an escape room that doesn't
cost you up front, just cost you in the long term. Mandy.
I grew up with In and Out and the Beatles.
I love them both. I love them both, Mandy. I
have a need to go against the green when it
comes to group things. That's what initially brought me to Trump.

(01:33:00):
Can I completely identify with that. I have a former
friend who would not stop talking about Hamilton, and now
I don't ever want to see it because I can't
stand her so much that because she loves it, she
I don't even want to see it. I'm like, ah, what,
don't want to see them? The Beatles were famous when
there were like five bands to choose from, says this texter.

(01:33:24):
Seventy two years old, became a Beatles fan at seventy.
Now I love them. I would love to know how
you came to the Beatles at seventy, because I have
to think if you're seventy, you live through the Beatles' music,
So maybe you didn't really listen to it, but you

(01:33:44):
absorbed it, and now it's brought back these happy memories
of a happy time. I don't know, Mandy, how do
you read music. It's art, it's subjective correct, which is
why I never bust someone's chops when they say things
like Britney Spears is the greatest artists of all times,
because you know what Britney spears to hit you at
the right moment. There's certain albums that I feel that
way about a lot of more sets. Jagged Little Pill,

(01:34:09):
No Doubts Record, What is the Record with Hallaback on it?
Those are two albums that have such great music that
hit me at exactly the right moment in my life,
so they have specific meaning to me. And there's multiple
albums like that. Snead O'Connor's Line in the Cobra is
one of those. I love that entire album so much so.

(01:34:30):
To me, Shinnead O'Connor is one of the greatest artists
ever and she just died in such a tragic fashion.
It was very sad, very sad and oppressing. But it's
because at that moment in my life that music hit
and it hit for a reason, and I think that's
you know, we've talked about the fact that your musical
tastes are set between the ages of fourteen and twenty four.
Anything that happens outside that range is just gravy.

Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
And a lot of these people were set right and
the other people help. They need somebody help, not just
anybody help.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
They need some want what you're doing, psychiatrist, that's what
they need. Yeah, yeah, come on, I need somebody help,
not just anybody help, real help. Yep, yep. And they
needed eight days a week. I want to know what
you guys hate that other people love. It's long gone now,

(01:35:21):
but somebody said a text earlier and said, I hate sushi.
Everybody loves sushi. I hate sushi.

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
I'm not a big sushi guy, very mildly on the edge,
come around a little. It's actually not as guy as
I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Sushi's one of those things that you can gradually work
your way into where you can start with cooked rolls.
You know that all all the fish is cooked or whatever,
so you can kind of start with that, and then
you graduate towards doing roles that are raw and things
of that nature. You just have to find what you
like with sushi and then expand on that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
I didn't nose dive. I think like a month ago
full in like, I think the full on roll. Yeah,
you ready to pretty tasty, and I like, like, I'm
not fish guy. I don't like seafood ie, sushi, shrimp,
anything with shrimp. I'm coming around to trying because I
like shrimp.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
I love shrimp. So you gotta just baby steps yourself
into it. You gotta. I've been like, I'd rather have
a burger. I had a terrible ex boyfriend far too long.
I had this terrible ex boyfriend when I was younger,
and the one one of the things that I do
appreciate about said terrible ex boyfriend is that he introduced
me to sushi. And when we first went to get sushi,
He's like, trust me on this. At some point, you're

(01:36:27):
gonna you're gonna go Wow, I'd really love some sushi.
And I was like, I'm not gonna crave sushi. And
now I'm like, dude, we gotta go get It is expensive,
especially if you annihilate sushi like we do. I mean,
we will wreck some sushi. Like if you ever see
the people at the sushi restaurant walking through with a
giant aircraft carrier. It's literally shaped like an aircraft carrier

(01:36:49):
that's coming to our table, and it's just me and Chuck.
We're not proud, but I can annihilate all for this.
We're gonna have to pay. Let's seal our mortgage. Okay, yeah,
well we don't have sushi every night. Mandy, h I
hate the Princess Bride?

Speaker 8 (01:37:04):
What what I do?

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
What do you think they mean?

Speaker 7 (01:37:11):
What?

Speaker 8 (01:37:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:37:12):
I know?

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Okay, pretty sure, Okay, now right now, right now, nope,
right now, Princess Bride goes to number one, and then
Real Steal and then Bush Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
This is your three films that you were gonna watch. Yeah,
it's such your starter pack for classic movies. Hate seafood,
Indian food, thy food, and Dave Matthews band. That's a

(01:37:35):
pretty comprehensive list. Texter Rough Yeah yeah, let me go
down here and get them from the back. Okay, Mandy,
I cannot stand Pink Floyd, nor do I like you too.
I ate the term what not? Well why do you
hate the term what not? Sometimes you just got to say,
we've got this that and whatnot? You what not represents

(01:37:57):
the whole category of stuff that you don't really want
to cate, just what not. Jagged Little Pillow Musical is great,
but slightly woke. I agree it was it kind of
a disappointment. It's like, just let the music speak for itself.
Mandy hate feta? No bueno? How do you hate fetta?
An arcuous cheese. Everything in Mediterranean casemell is it moldy? No,

(01:38:20):
it's not moldy. It's it's white and crumbly and it's
got a pungent flavor to it, but it's still very delicious.
I hate guaca moldy. Oh my gosh, people, what is that?

Speaker 6 (01:38:30):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
You know, only ten percent of guaca is good. Most
people don't do it right, So I would say generally
I hate most squak. Okay, here's my right, and my
dad did to go. This is how I make Mike walk.
You take avocado, you chop it up, You put it
in a bowl. You chop up some red onions.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
You put that in there. You got a chopped tomato,
you put that in there. You got a little bit
of onion, you put that in there. Jalapeno's chop put
it in there, A little bit of onion powder, a
little bit of salt, and squeeze the lime. That's it.
It's perfect, true to the art form. Oh well, I
don't use cilantro. Well, cilantro is very divisive. I don't
mind cilantro. If I was just iatiot for myself, I

(01:39:06):
would put it in there. But I have a lot
of friends and family that really hate cilantro, like hate it,
hate it. Mandy Sushi Today, Baked tomorrow correct CCR is
better than the Beatles. I could argue that position as well,
just letting you, letting you hate hard Seltzer. My brother

(01:39:27):
says that herd Seltzer tastes like somebody walked by a
grape with a with an open can and then said
it was grape Seltzer. Not a lot of stuff there.
American Graffiti is the all time best movie. It is good,
but not necessarily. I hate sweatpants or joggers, that's all.
I don't like having the bottom of my pants bound.

(01:39:52):
I don't like that. I don't like them with the
with the tight ankles.

Speaker 7 (01:40:00):
I do that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Does that person just hate comfort? Yes, I don't know.
Hate sweatpants and joggers Oh, big difference. I'm my big sweatpants,
but like I'm okay with like I have leggings. What
do you think I wear to Target? I mean I
have to dress like you have to go in uniform
right when you go to Target. I just don't like
the ones that have the elastic band around the bottom.
I don't love getting pants or joggers one size smaller,

(01:40:22):
nice and snug, feel good. I did say salt, by
the way, Textrew said, I left out the most important wad.
I did say salt, little dash of salt to d
a lie well, yeah, to taste, Yeah, gotta make it happy.
Three This person hates Thomas Oh, I hate the Guardian
of the Galaxy movies and anime just not my thing.
I'm with you on anime, but I love the Guardian
of the Galaxy movies. They're so good.

Speaker 12 (01:40:43):
I had.

Speaker 5 (01:40:44):
I had a buddy in college who, for so weird reason,
also hated the Guardians movies.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
I never understood it. Didn't like the humor didn't mesh
well after him. I don't know which Guardian he ate
all of them, hated the idea of them. How was that?

Speaker 8 (01:40:57):
How is that a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
I just dropped the glove dropped him. Who are you
waving at? I was just trying to direct to the
delivery guy? All right, strongly, Wait a minute, strongly strongly?
Where did it go? Mandy went to a wedding this
weekend where bride Zilla picked Brussels sprouts as a side
for everyone. Hate brussels, See that's you can't do that
at a wedding. No, but I do love them. But
I do too, But Brussels sprouts again divisive. I agree,

(01:41:20):
if you're making it for yourself, go crazy. But if
you're feeding everybody else, you have to pay attention. And
when they're in those big batches, it seems like they're
never cooked, right, you know, correct? Correct? Hang on one second.
I wanted to find this and now I can't find
it again while you're looking. I can't believe a rod
has never seen Princess Bride. I don't know how you
make it through life with them. But that's so good, Mandy.
I hate myself for loving You can't break free from

(01:41:43):
the things that you do. Shout out to Jone Jet
this person, last one. I hate liver, sushi and all
metal bands and rap music. I'm a singer rap. There
is no singing, it's talking over a beat. Metal is
ninety percent screaming, not singing. Those are very specific and
well delineated hated things. I'm going to leave the show
right all that right here, Grant Smith has come in

(01:42:04):
because now it's time for the most try that again.
Now it's time for the most exciting segment all the
radio of its guy, the world of the day. All right,
what is our dad joke of the day? Please a
ride Halloween three for? Oh god? Where will you find
a ghost at an amusement park?

Speaker 7 (01:42:26):
Do not know?

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
On a roller ghost?

Speaker 8 (01:42:28):
Oh god?

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
What game do young.

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
Ghosts like to play? The hide bikabookaboo? And what kind
of skin treatment do ghosts use? I don't know, vanishing cream?

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Oh god?

Speaker 10 (01:42:49):
Okay, that was kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
It's got a funny little hit. A little funny there,
all right? What is our word of the dame? I
believe this would be a noun to say nick phobia, nickphobia,
nyct of Nick Ferguson without his beard.

Speaker 7 (01:43:09):
True.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
I say you're scared of New York City. You're scared
of New York City, nick to phobia, staphobia. When you
are scared abnormally of darkness. Oh, okay. What determines the
color of the fireworks? The guy who owns the firework place? No, no, no,
the minerals president of the fireworks. For example, barium produces

(01:43:33):
a green color, whereas copper produces a blue color. The
more you know, yeah, there he goes. Why we do this?
All right? What is our jeopardy category? Please? It is beer.
Let's go with colleges and universities. Rutgers football rivalry with
this school goes back to their first collegiate game in

(01:43:53):
eighteen sixty nine. I feel like Ryan Edwards, I'm not
going to get this sports question. That's kind of obscure.
I mean, unless you went to Rutgers, do you know
who their main rival is? The answer is no. The
answer is Princetonhton. Okay, zero points, go ahead, no beans
about it. This school, now in Chestnut Hill, was founded
by a Jesuit priest in eighteen sixty three. Manny, Manny,

(01:44:21):
what is Boston College? That is correct? There for a second, on.

Speaker 5 (01:44:27):
The campus of this Texas University, Joy and Lady live
in a special habitat accredited as a zoo.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Manny, who what is Texas Tech?

Speaker 7 (01:44:36):
Wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Dang it wrong? Wrong, I guess yes, you should or
the thing's boring? No, no, don't do it. Grant, Grant?
What is Baylor? Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:44:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Grant's on the board. This Illinois school was founded in
eighteen fifty one to serve Ohio, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan,
and part of Minnesota. I think I know, but I'm
not sure. Mandy. What is Northwestern.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
One?

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
We're burning it up today, this historically black college in
Atlanta consistently? What is Spelman?

Speaker 8 (01:45:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
So quick? I knew that one? One? A hard category
wreckers Princeton?

Speaker 7 (01:45:21):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Nonsense? Okay, we're going to be back tomorrow, and we
are so close to being done with the election, so
we'll continue to come up with stuff that is not
election related mixed in with our election related coverage.

Speaker 5 (01:45:34):
Do you know we're also almost done with what any
hot weather? Because tomorrow it's going to be a high borrow.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
I'm going to bust out my doc Martin's for the day.
Looking forward to it. Well, the Sweater Club, I've been
there for like two months.

Speaker 13 (01:45:51):
Aik.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
By the way, don't try drive like an idiot just
because it's snowing tomorrow. Could we all just like normal snow.
I think so. Well yeah yeah, I don't know. We'll
find out tomorrow, won't. Well, right now, KOA Sports has
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