10-30-25 FULL SHOW - The Denver Public School Board Hit A New Low

The Denver School Board meeting was next level whining, Aurora PD Todd Chamberlain stops by, and Michael Brown comes over from next door. 

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last night. Here are better choices for school board Aurora
PD Chief Todd Chamberlain joins me at one forty five
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I'm dead serious. That's what's happening.

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Jill Biden about being addressed as a doctor. You guys,
let's just jump right into this. Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.

(06:45):
So I gotta thank Rob Dawson first of all for
just alerting me to the dumpster fire that was last
night's school board meeting. Okay, I'm just okay. So here's
what we're gonna do. So the long and short of
the story is this. I talked about it the other day.
Board member John young Quist was accused by Superintendent Alex

(07:08):
Morrero of secretly wanting Morero's job, of not having the
district's best interest at heart, and.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Of being a racist.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
That was what being excused of bias, the old they
ever popular bias. So they paid the school district paid
eighty thousand dollars to a law firm to investigate these claims,
and they came in. They spoke to people that worked
at the district that were both minority and not. They
talked to as many people as they could, and they
came back and they did a report. In the report
it said, we can't find any any examples of explicit

(07:43):
bias here. We did not act in a blatantly racist way.
But the problem was is that some of the people,
and I guess most of the staff of doctor are
of Alex Morrero's office are minority, which is fine, I mean,
I have no issue with that, but there were those
who felt that he had been condescending to them or

(08:07):
spoke to them in a manner that they did not enjoy. Now,
John young Quist has been very clear that yes, he
is asking hard questions about the graduation rate, he is
talking about the racial achievement gap, and asking hard questions
about why we're making zero progress and are actually sliding
back when it comes to the achievement gap. He's asking

(08:27):
hard questions and the report basically said, yeah, we couldn't
really find anything that was overt so last night the
drama queens of the Denver Public School Board.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Got together to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I just want you to listen to Soshi Gui Tan,
who is no longer the president of the school board,
thank god, but I want you to hear what passes
for legitimate conversation at the Denver Public School Board. Okay,
A Rod, may I have my audio please, sir? This
is Sociguitan, the Latina Mexican member of the school board

(09:12):
that comes into play because she can't talk about herself
without mentioning that as she does here.

Speaker 9 (09:16):
Still working through the findings of the report and thinking
about how thinking about how I want to deconstruct the
white privilege that I read within it and how it's
playing out. And my lens in which I see the
world is that of a Latina Mexicana, having lived the undocumented, experience,

(09:40):
the sensitivities that I have due to the race dynamics
that I experienced my whole life. What it feels like
to live with internalized oppression due to the racism, having
to live up to standards of whiteness, and so that
is the lens in which I see and am reviewing

(10:01):
this report and the findings. I believe that white people
never learn, never learn, never had to, never will have
to unless they choose to bear witness to the pain.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
That people of color deal with due.

Speaker 9 (10:18):
To racism, biases, microaggressions that impact us so.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Much, so much.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
In that first of all, what exactly are the standards
of whiteness?

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Can you define that?

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Please?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Can you tell me what these standards of whiteness that
you find so objectionable are. I'm genuinely curious. I don't
want to try and guess, because any guessing I might
do would be wildly racist. But don't let that stop
Soshi Gatan, who is perfectly comfortable. Can you imagine if
I looked at the achievement gap in Denver Public School

(11:01):
and I said, anywhere out loud, I don't think brown
people ever learn.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
I don't think they don't have to learn.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Can you imagine if those words came out of my mouth,
how absolutely horrifying that should be. But when she casually
says white people don't ever learn, casually, I mean that
was the whole point of her conversation, this entire thing,
this entire and I'm gonna call it a witch hunt.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
But what is a different word when you're.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Going after someone who is questioning.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
The crappy job you've done. What is that word?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Because right now we're seeing in real time racism has
been weaponized in Denver Public Schools at the school board,
and I'm wondering if it's been weaponized across the district.
Because if you have a school board that's gonna talk
to the white man who dares to ask how the
first latina or latino excuse me, gendered language and all

(11:57):
superintendent can't do his job better, they're using these these accusations. Well,
I'll let John Youngquist answer why he thinks they're using
these accusations.

Speaker 10 (12:12):
My preparation for this investigation began with the Morrero letter,
in statements that the board and the superintendent made to
the press, a hired counsel who made me aware that
there are three separate lawsuits out there in which my
letters are concerned, and the damning report involving the superintendent,
certain members of leadership team, and then board's nonfeasons, and
that I will be a seminal witness in at least

(12:32):
one of those cases. These lawsuits, these three relate to
the firing of the principle at Mcalliff, and the shooting
of the deans that He's High school in twenty twenty three.
In evaluating the totality the circumstances, it has become clear
that certain members of the board and district leadership have
attempted to preemptively impeach my credibility in an attempt to
limit their liability in the federal court cases noted.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Hmmm, that seems like it could be a thing. The
cases that he's talking talking about specifically are the two
deans or the two men who were shot at East
High School after they were forced to pat down a
dangerous young man. And then the other lawsuit has to
do with the principal of McAuliffe, who was fired after

(13:15):
he came forward and said, the district's safety plans are
no safety plan at all, and they force us to
take people who have been accused of things like attempted
murder in our schools. He came out and basically blew
the whistle and they fired him. These are the three
lawsuits that we're talking about here, and John Youngquist is
going to be named in them. He was the principal
at East Tie. He's absolutely right. But this isn't even

(13:39):
the best part, you guys, this is not even the
best part.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
In this SoundBite, Michelle Quadlebaum.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Shares what it's like to be Michelle Quadlebaum, and I
got to tell you, it doesn't sound like any fun
at all, not even a little bit. Just get your
hanky's ready and listen. That sounds her crying.

Speaker 8 (14:04):
By the ways, as I listen to your statement, my
heart broke.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
I choose to believe in the dignity of humanity. Therefore
I choose to believe in the dignity.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
Of you.

Speaker 7 (14:28):
M Let me just give you an insight.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
On how disrespect happens that slips through the cracks.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
She's gonna go on here and talk about some claptrap,
but I feel like I have to intervene something. Let's
talk about disrespect. You can only be disrespected if you
allow yourself to feel that way. You have given someone
the power over you to determ whether or not you
feel respected. You have given your power away. The notion
that everybody needs to police their own speech lest they

(15:08):
accidentally give you the perception that you have been disrespected.
That's on you, not on anybody else. But I'll let
Michelle continue. You address our president as doctor Oson, but
during your statement.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
You addressed the deputy.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
Superintendent as Tony Smith, the hor Tony Smith.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
That is doctor Smith.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
That is just one example of how we live in
this society, with constant disrespect, with constant marginalization.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
That means something.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Really, I understand if your intentions.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
If.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Getting answers to hard questions, that's his intentions.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
Well, but that wasn't the impact.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
No person is responsible for the impact of anything that
they say on anybody else.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Stop it, just stop it, guys.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
If there was ever an argument that women should not
be allowed to run for office.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
This is like exhibit A.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
This is embarrassing, absolutely embarrassing. How could I mean, my goodness, gracious,
if you are in Denver right now and you need
to know who to vote for, I have put them
on the blog.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I have your.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Choices in the Denver public school system. Are any of
them rock rib conservatives?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
No they are not. But they are.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Better than this nonsense that we are being subject to
right now. I mean, Mike, I just I don't know.
I mean, maybe maybe I have more self esteem, but
would you ever put I mean, oh, she.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Was crying because he did not use an academic honorific
for doctor Tony Smith.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I have found because I get to interview all sorts
of people, right, and some of them have a doctor,
a PhD.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
And I have a great deal.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Of respect for people who've gone through the process and
that level of education. But it's very telling immediately if
I ask them, how do you want me to address you?

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Because I always do.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
The really cool ones are like, oh, call me Dave.
The pains in the you know what's are.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Like call me talk to Sue, and.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
So just saying not always, but it seems like that
a lot of the time. I on the other side
of this break, I believe we have do we have
a guest at wait?

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Wait? Let me just check and see no. Yes. When
we get back.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Wyoming mom was pushing back against a school board and
they fought back legally in a weird way. We'll talk
about it next. Parker Jackson. He's in Wyoming, where, you know.
I always think of Wyoming sort of being our free
state to the north, right, like it's wild and crazy
and just amazing in Wyoming with all the freedom.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
You can just smell it in the air. But one Wyoming.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Mom found herself at odds with some members of the
school board and this story.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Parker, first of all, welcome the show.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
This story, to me is just sadder than most because
of the circumstances around this woman's son.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Tell the audience what the long and short of the
story is.

Speaker 11 (18:59):
Yeah, Well, the bottom line is, no one should be
hauled into court simply for criticizing government officials. That's especially
true for parents advocating on behalf of their kids to
their school district. And yet that's exactly what happened to
Cary cochrane. And as you mentioned, she's a dedicated and
a heartbroken mom. Unfortunately, she has two kids, a son

(19:21):
and a daughter. The son, unfortunately, took his own life
shortly after he graduated from high school in Rock Springs, Wyoming,
and he had been the victim of some bullying and
some sexual harassment, and there were some academic issues as
a result of that. And so Cary, as any reasonable
mom would do, started asking tough questions in the school

(19:43):
district about their sexual harassment and title NIND policies and
about grading and some other issues. And after her son passed,
she also tried to get copies of his academic records
so she could have some closure and you know, kind
of keep a little piece of him. She ran into
a brick wall there with the district, and while that

(20:05):
records issue was being sorted out, she got served with
not just one, but two lawsuits filed by school officials,
one by the assistant superintendent and one by the superintendent's
wife on behalf of herself, who she is also a
school district contract employee, as well as on behalf of
the superintendent, and those lawsuits accused her of stalking them

(20:29):
because she had made some comments that they didn't like
online and at school board meetings.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
To be clear, the only things they accused her of
are social media posts and public comment during the public
comment period, And it's not like she was haranguing them
before and after the school board meeting, chasing them to
their cars or something along those lines. So what you're
telling me is that during a public comment she said
things they didn't like, and she put what sorts of

(20:56):
things did she post on Facebook?

Speaker 12 (21:00):
Was obviously critical of the district.

Speaker 11 (21:01):
She called out the assistant superintendent and the superintendent. Some
of the family members of those officials responded, and she
engaged with them in the comments about that, and those
were all filed with the court, and then the officials
also filed public news articles about this situation as part
of their petitions and comments that other people had said

(21:25):
about them responding to Cary, not even Sari's own comments.
And so they felt harassed and they felt that there
was a threat to their job, and they tried to
shoehorn that into the stocking statutes, which is just not
a good fit. And there were two judges ultimately that
looked at these issues. Both of them came to the

(21:46):
same conclusion and said, no, there's no stocking here. And
the one judge went out of his way to say
that what Carai had done was engaged in protective political speech,
subjecting public employees to public scrutiny, which is exactly what
they should expec when they take a job with the government.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
So let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
First of all, I wish I were shocked, but it
feels like there's always somebody who politically is out to
get somebody else. That could be from the right or
the left. The longest time it was the left. Now
we're seeing it more often on the right. I got
a story about a guy in Tennessee who's in jail
right now because he posted a meme of a Donald

(22:24):
Trump quote and the sheriff accused him of threatening the school.
This is a very, very dangerous precedent to set that
free speech should be somehow curtailed because you don't like
the content of it. If it's not threatening, if there's
not a blatant threat of injury or violence or willing
other people to do violence.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
This just seems like there's zero.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Legs to stand on, and I kind of want to
ask what happens now, what happens in that school district
to ensure that nobody else has to go through this
level of crap.

Speaker 11 (22:56):
Well, unfortunately, Wyoming is one of twelve states that lacks
some statutory protections against situations like this. Lawyers call those
types of laws anti slap laws SLAP stands for strategic
litigation against public participation clunky acronym. I know, I'm sure
a lawyer came up with it, But what these laws

(23:19):
are designed to do is to provide immunity to people
from lawsuits that would seek to curtail their constitutional rights,
including their right to speak, and then if they are
subject to those lawsuits, to provide recourse on the back end,
allowing them to recover their legal costs and attorney fees
and any other sorts of damages they might have experienced

(23:40):
because of being drug through the court system unnecessarily. And
Wyoming has, as I mentioned, doesn't have one of these,
and they've received an F grade from the Institute for
Free Speech for not having an LAP law. Fortunately for
you guys there at Colorado, Colorado does have an n
slap law, and it's pretty good, and so there are

(24:02):
at least a little bit of deterrence there against this
type of behavior. But Wyoming and about, like I said,
a dozen states have failed to protect parents and other
taxpayers in this way.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Well, I think that up until now, Wyoming was inhabited
by people who weren't idiots, so maybe they didn't feel
like they needed this, because when you don't have a
state full of idiots, you don't have a bunch of
idiotic lawsuits. But here we are in Wyoming. Now you
guys are catching up to us. Okay, along with your fireworks,
you've now got idiots, So you probably need to.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Look into this.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Parker Jackson with the Goldwater Institute, I very much appreciate
your time today and thanks for taking this on. I
can't even imagine being a mom who's already lost a
child and then trying to get answers, trying to get information,
get stonewalled, and then get sued. I just like I
just insult to injury on all that. Parker appreciates the

(24:53):
time today.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Thanks Mandy.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
All right, that is Parker Jackson with the Goldwater Institute,
and I the story that I was talking about with
him just now I have it on the blog today.
So a guy known for posting progressive memes on social media.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
We all know these people.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
We all have them, you know, in our towns, the
guys who have to comment on everything, and even if
it's like, well look at a picture of this butterfly,
they're like, you know what, global Woman's gonna kill all
the butterflies. They take everything political right away. Well, I
think this guy is one of those guys. And he
posted a repost of a meme in that it was

(25:34):
a quote from Donald Trump. There had been a school
shooting at a school, a high school named Perry in Perry, Idaho.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
They had Perry High School in.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
This guy's hometown, and Trump posted a comment about it,
and the sheriff decided that he was going to take
it as a threat. And I looked at the post.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
You guys, it's it says this seems.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Relevant today and Donald Trump saying we have to get
over it. Donald Trump on the Perry High Schools mass
shooting one day after and he just posted this seems
relevant today. I don't think that's a threat. Guy's been,
as you know.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
For two months.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
A judge gave him a two million dollar bond. When
you look at what's happening in the United Kingdom right now,
people are going to jail for Facebook posts, for tweets
that they just retweeted.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
What when we get back.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
I gotta share a SoundBite with you a former president
Barack Obama advocating for state media. I mean, that's not
exactly what he says, but that's exactly what he says.
A text messenger sent this text to the Common Spirit
health text line. I believe it's Mandylorian eight oh one
to six Anthony. In America, this has been because of Trump.

(26:51):
Never before did people feel like you may get arrested
and locked up for what you say. We need a leader,
despite how hard it may be, that unites this country.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
I'm sad and mad.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
My kids have to grow up in a country of
two sides hating and fighting, and nothing is helping that now,
especially Trump.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
It's sad.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I support much of what he has done, but he's
destroying the presidency and he's stomping on the rights of
anyone who disagrees with him a little concerning absolutely, which
is why I'm talking about it. But I don't remember
anyone on the left talking about Joe Biden censoring all
a bunch of stuff which brings us.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
To Barack Obama.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Because I wanted to show it's consistent on the left
what they really think about free speech. Listen to what
former President Barack Obama thinks needs to happen. When it
comes to journalism.

Speaker 13 (27:42):
Part of what we're going to have to do is
to start experimenting with new forms of journalism and how
do we use.

Speaker 14 (27:51):
Social media in ways that.

Speaker 13 (27:54):
Reaffirm facts, separate facts from opinion. We want diversity of opinion,
we don't want diversity of facts. That I think is
one of the big tasks of social media. By the way,
it will require some government I believe some government regulatory

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constraints around some of these business models in a way
that's consistent with the First Amendment, but that also says, Look,
there is a difference between these platforms letting all voices

(28:41):
be heard versus a business model that elevates the most
hateful voices, or the most polarizing voices, or the most
dangerous in the sense of inciting violence.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Voices.

Speaker 13 (29:02):
And and that I think is going to be a
big challenge for all of us that we're gonna have
to undertake.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
Now, what do.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
You think he was talking about there? Do you think
he was talking about throttling the voices of the Democrats
who are continuing to call Donald Trump and Republicans, I
don't know Nazis that they're destroying democracy. Do you think
he's talking about throttling that speech? And there's the rub
President Barack Obama, because who gets to decide? Because during COVID,

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we saw what that looked like when government got to
decide what was heard by the people, and you saw
accounts with really good information about COVID being completely throttled
and shut down. You got doctors that were threatened with
their licenses being revoked for daring to go against the
COVID dogma.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
That's what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
When government gets involved with government regulatory constraints.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
But this is what Democrats do.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
This is exact factly the same as Attorney General Phil
Wiser wanting Democrats to put something on the ballot to
undo our fair districting so they can jerrymander. Again, this
is what they really think. They may talk a good game,
but the reality is he doesn't believe in free speech.
He of course he gives it lip service. Well, we

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have to make it work for free speech. But government
should be regulating what government should be regulating that industry.
And he is absolutely referring to X the platform. And
let me just say this about X. The community notes
feature on X is an absolute game changer. Do you

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realize how hard it is for a bad actor to
go on X right now and just spout crap and
not have somebody throw a community noted him.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
That will shut the whole thing down.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Right underneath whatever claptrap he or she just said.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
They hate free speech. They want to.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Control speech, because when you control speech, you control the narrative,
and when you control the narrative, you control the world.
That's the way it works, Mandy, he's talking about everyone.
COVID issues didn't happen under Obama, I get it one
hundred percent, But he's still talking about having someone somewhere

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be the decider of what is true and what is not.
That's one of the problems we have the climate science,
you guys. That's why climate science is going to burn
itself out, because the climate science industry has successfully shut
down anyone who has a different theory about climate change,
and now that all of their predictions keep not coming true,

(31:38):
they're going to, you know, cry wolf themselves into oblivion.
And I'm here for it. There's an old adage, and
I believe it was Maya Angelo who gets most of
the credit for it because she really brought it into
the modern era. But when people show you who they are,
pay attention. This is who Barack Obama is. This is

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what the demokrats believe that we should all have access to,
carefully vetted information that has been decided by someone on
the left, whether or not it's true or not. Because
he's certainly not talking about letting people on the right
to side. I mean, maybe if he was doing that,
I could get down with it, But as a free
speech absolutisteve and I realized that's a fool's errand when
we get back.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
We have so much stuff on the.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Blog today, you little Mandalorians, Mandylorians. It's hard to say
a ride Mandylorians. This texter says it best. The answer
to free speech is and censorship. It's more speech that
of course, Mandylorians. Seven two two eight back after this.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
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Speaker 2 (32:42):
Well, no, it's Mandy Connell, Mandy ton on KA.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
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Speaker 2 (33:00):
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Speaker 3 (33:05):
Welcome, We welcome to the second hour of the show.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Mandylorians. That is what the listeners are called.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
We already have someone weighing in a complaint on the
text line and it says no, like brown stupid goobers,
giving your listeners a name does not work, except it does.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Mandy Lorians. This is koa. This is blank blank. Yeah,
it's it's a good one for those that know it.
For those things it rhymes as well.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Is there some kind of like is there like a
Mandylorian code that they have to follow, Like are there rules? Yeah,
in Mandylorian society.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah, you can't take take can't take off your clothes
when you're listening to the show.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Well that's I mean, that's weird.

Speaker 14 (33:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
So that's wait, we need six key actions Anthony six
mm hmm. You have to be able to speak the
language of Mandy.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
You have to be able to defend yourself and your family.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
You have to raise your children to grow up to
be Mandylorians.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
You have to at least claim that you were born
on the planet Mandy Lore.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
And and if you hear the call of the Mandylorian,
which is the theme song, you must respond.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
I mean, it's also just the airhorns.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
There you go, there you go, brace, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Mandylorian, you go to the No, it's the Connallist Federal
Federation Federation. Yeah, you're a Mandylorian from the Connaist Federation.
That's like the nerdiest thing ever.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Love that.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Yeah, by buy into Connolists. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
All right, if you're planning on going to this weekend
for Bonita, you may be disappointed.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
I don't know, because all of.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
The actors at Casabanita going on strike. The Screen Actors Guild,
led by one Miss brook Shields, has told them they're
not making enough money and they must go on strikes.
So they're doing it this weekend. Now, if I'm not mistaken,
there was recently a complaint filed by the union about

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cutting hours for the actors this upcoming weekend, like they
were bringing in skecters or something, you know what I mean.
So it's going to be different at cast Out Boonita
than it is normally at Casa Bonita. So this weekend,
do you not expect to see any of the actors
acting because they will not. They are going to be

(35:39):
striking for all kinds of stuff. I mean, it's just
do you ever wonder Trey Parker and Matt Stone? I mean,
they have dropped forty million bucks into just getting that
place up and running and looking good, and I still
haven't been there.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Have you been there, a Rod? Did you go yet?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I haven't been either. I mean, it's not top of
mind for me. But apparently they're, you know, doing really
well again. But do you wonder do you think they
just look at doing business here in Colorado as Oh.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
God, these people?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
If I had to guess about Trey Parker and Matt Stone,
I mean the way they have always done the show
with kind of a no sacred Cow's attitude meaning anything
goes right.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
They'll insult anybody.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
I would guess they're probably like small l Libertarians. They
don't seem to be the sort that would put up
with crap from either side. Really, I'm just curious as
how that that will really go.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I want to move to Kentucky just so I can
vote for Rand Paul and Thomas Matthew. Not really. Colorado
is my home, but my votes count for nothing here.
Hopefully that will change at some point in the near future.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
That via X.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
By the way, Mandy, I would ask for more money
since you have to see Michael Brown Monday to Friday.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
I would call it hazard pay. Thanks Alexa.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Mandy Ross, are you just it's appointed to be moving
to an early morning show again?

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Do you think that there it's a good career move.

Speaker 13 (37:06):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Ross is happy about it. Ross is very happy about it,
very very happy about it. Mandy, I do my best
to keep immigrants at bay. Like your theme song says
no no, my theme song says keeping ignorance, ignorance at Bay.
Another rules should be every time Mandy says something matter
of fact or strongly you strongly agree with, you must

(37:29):
loudly say darn tutin no matter who else is in
the room or with an earshot of you.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I like the Darntutan rule. That's a good one. All right, guys.
We've got a lot of stuff on the blog, including
the neat graphic that a rod made of the Mandy Lorian.
I want to share a story out of the European Union.
But when you hear it, you'll understand why I'm sharing it.
The European Central Bank left its key interest rate unchanged
on Thursday. Inflation is under control, but the economy is

(38:02):
limping along, and I mean limping along.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Did I read this wrong?

Speaker 10 (38:10):
So?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Oh no, no, no, I read the wrong part.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
So the European economy grew at a rate in the
third quarter of zero point two percent, a fraction of
one percent. Now, our economy has been kind of going
up and down, but we've seen some great growth numbers
in the twos and the threes.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
So what is happening in Europe?

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Well, the biggest economy in the European Union is Germany.
The other major economy is Italy now and both of
them are on the brink of recession. Germany has has
completely ground their economy to a halt. Growth of the
twenty countries that used the Euro was held back by

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higher US tariffs and the anemic performances by Germany and Italy,
both of which barely avoided.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
A technical recession.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Germany's economy stagnated with zero growth in the third quarter,
following a contraction of ero point two percent in the
second quarter. Figures from EU Statistics Agency Eurostats showed two
straight quarters of contraction. Of falling output is a definition
of recession. How did Germany ruin its economy? Germany decided

(39:27):
years ago to go all in on net zero, and
since then they have shut down nuclear power plants, they
have added so much wind and solar. I don't know
if you've ever been to Germany in the winter. There's
no solar no, I mean none. There's no sunshine in
that part of Germany in the dead of winter, and

(39:48):
the windmills are not blowing like they need to. So
now Germany, the largest economy in the EU, has the
highest energy prices in the EU. And I'm doing this
story because this is what Jared Polus and Democrats in
this state are pursuing. They are pursuing a net zero strategy.

(40:10):
Net zero is a disaster. Renewable technology and battery storage
are not remotely near where they need to be in
order to make this feasible. Can you I thought about
this the other day, and I don't know if any
of you are in this industry and kind of give
me some insight into this. But ay, Ron, have you
seen the videos of like an electric car on fire

(40:30):
and then you can't put it out ever? Right? It
just keeps, it keeps arcing back on and it keeps
setting a fire again. So they're talking about battery storage
centers for renewable energy. That would be like, in order
to have a reasonable amount of battery storage, it's in
a facility that's as large as a Walmart in footprint. Okay,

(40:53):
so think about that building, floor to ceiling, row after
row after row of story batteries, lithium batteries, because that's
really all we have.

Speaker 8 (41:02):
Now.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
They're working on saltwater batteries, but they're not there yet.
What if one of those things catches fire? What kind
of chemical poop storm are you going to unleash on
the environment if one of those buildings goes up in flames.
I'm asking a genuine question because I'll tell you what
I never thought about when I thought about renewable energy
back in the day, when I was idealistic and thought

(41:24):
this actually could work, before I actually applied logic.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
To the situation.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Would it ever occurred to you that one of these
wind turbines could burst into flames and trap people at
the top and kill them? And yet we've seen that
happen more than one time.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
You know, it doesn't happen all the.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Time, absolutely not, But the fact that that could happen,
and you're like, wait, what, how is that even possible?
I mean, knowing the mechanics of it now, of course
it's possible. But you don't think about that, so we're
not thinking about things like battery storage, Mandy says Mandy

(42:06):
Laurian four three O two. Mandy, wait, what what are
you doing? I'm not doing anything different?

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Are you doing what?

Speaker 13 (42:12):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Are you talking about? What are we doing? What you
gotta be when you ask.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Me what I'm doing?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I need a little clarification because you've already got six things.
The thing oh that I was just doing a minute,
I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah, we're on planet Mandy lore Now I.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Have show amnesia after it comes out of my mouth.
I have no idea what I just said to this
text through said, I don't care how you spin it.
Rosscott is show canceled, you guys. That is the exact
like if there could be a thing in opposite world
of Ross getting a show canceled, being moved.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
A morning drive is.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Literally the opposite of Ross getting a show canceled.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
More cars, more people, more lesseners, more impact.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, bing bong boom.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Yeah, promotion. Mandy.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Did you see the explosion of the German nuclear plan
on Monday?

Speaker 5 (43:00):
It was cool.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
It was not an explosion, it was an implosion. They
are taken down the cooling towers and yes, and ded
it was cool. I gotta tell you, guys, I love
an implosion. What are there any big buildings downtown that
we're gonna implode? Because I might go watch one in person.
I've done that one time. Okay, remember the opening scene
of Lethal Weapon two where Rigs and MYRTA are inside

(43:21):
the building and they're negotiating, and then after they kill
whatever and then they run out and this building collapses
behind them. You remember, have you ever seen the Lethal
Weapon movies?

Speaker 4 (43:31):
I've seen them. I don't remember this part.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Okay, it's just the beginning of lethal weapon two. Okay,
that was the old Orlandos City Hall building and they
imploded it. It was like three o'clock in the morning
and we had just gotten off work and we were like,
we're gonna go watch this building go down, and we
did and it was super cool.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
I mean, they do it every six months. It feels
like in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I know, I know, I've always wanted to go to
a Vegas implosion. Apparently I've been told by people. I've
been told by people they do not let you get
a good view, Like you can't get close to them
to get a good view in Vegas.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Have they done Canna? Yeah, I think they did tropic
Canna already? Yeah they no so no, no Canna already. Yeah, imploded, imploded,
Oh the Tropicana Hotel.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I thought you were talking about Tropicana Field for.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
The new field.

Speaker 13 (44:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
I watched that. Yeah, I watched that when it happened. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
But I love a good implosure, Like if I that's
one of those careers. I was like, if somebody had said,
you know, you could have a job figuring out where
to put the explosives in order to bring down a
building in a safe fashion.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
I would have been like, sign me up. That would
have been cool.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Yeah, like the villains that like in movies have to
do it, you know, like the Joker. It's like there's
some real math exactly Sure, the whole thing goes down,
and it goes.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Down safely and straight down the same time.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
The Joker doesn't care about safely.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
But yes, yes, uh oh this Texter, let me see this. No, Michael,
this is Michael, like emailed me. He didn't text me.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
So Mandy LORII and Michael just it be a story, Michael, No, Okay.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
California battery facility fire raises concerns over energy storage plant
regulation following a lithium ion battery fire. It's a moss
landing plant in Moderay, California. Communities nationwide are expressing concern
about hosting similar plants, and it's a whole interview on NPR.
So anyway, it's a thing that I think we need

(45:26):
to worry about, and somebody needs to answer that question
before we get into you know, stacking these things all
over the world.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Back to Europe.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
So this story of course blames tariffs, but this has
been happening in Europe for a very long time. Because
energy is so expensive. A lot of the industry that
used to be in Germany has simply left.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
It's no longer feasible. It's no longer possible to.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Run large scale factories in Germany because the power is
too expensive. The last time we were there, I was
talking to two of our tour guides and they were young,
they were probably in their late twenties, and they told
me that every winter they fly to Thailand and stay
in Thailand for three months because it's cheaper than paying
a power bill in Germany over the winter. And this

(46:14):
is what they want to do to Colorado. You guys know,
if you listen to this show, I am all about
mitigating the impact of climate change because I think it
is a fool's errand. And as a matter of fact, yesterday,
when I was talking about the fact that Bill Gates,
who has long been a scaremonger when it comes to
the client, Bill Gates came out in one of his
gate flatters and was like, No, it's gonna be fine.

(46:37):
It's gonna be fine. We don't need to really, it's fine.
Because one of the things that's never talked about when
we're talking about reducing our carbon emissions.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
That's the end all. We got to reduce our carbon emissions.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Do you guys know how long it takes carbon to
get out of the atmosphere once it's in there?

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Do you guys know?

Speaker 3 (47:01):
If you know, you can text me at five sixty
six nine, Oh, because I'd love to know how many
of you know versus how many of you don't? Hang on,
let me get this, I mean, how long does it
take carbon to get out of the atmosphere? I have
a ballpark, but I want to see if there's anything
more specific that I don't know. I mean, the spoiler

(47:22):
alert is it's not like a year or five years,
or even ten years. It could be hundreds of thousands
of years.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
So we're all busting.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Our chops, destroying the economy of Europe, putting ourselves in
a situation where people are going to be faced with
the prospect of brownouts when it's too hot or too cold,
all to lower our carbon emissions, even though we've already
told we sailed past what we believe we can safely
have in what we were told by climate scientists anyway
before we were all going to die. We're not dead

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here we are, so all of that stuff's going to
be there thousands and thousands of years. It's it's super
frustrating to me that we have focused on stuff that
government can tax, like energy, carbon usage, all that stuff,

(48:24):
instead of looking at what we really need to do
to be able to live on this planet as the
climate changes in different locations. We know the climate change
has been happening since the beginning of time. It's destroyed civilizations.
That's one of the reasons that many scientists believe that
the Mayans just moved because the climate became inhospitable to
their way of life, so they just left. Mandy, Oh,

(48:47):
excuse me, Mandy Lorian number four four nine four said Mandy.
We've all seen the city lights at night from the
space station. This is the real waste of energy. I mean, wait,
the space station or city lights. If you don't like
city lights, you can always move to North Korea.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
They don't have.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Any Mandy Lorian nine to five. Oh one, Hi, Mandy,
I'm a goober, not a brownie goober. If it is
all negotiable, how about just the Lourians for short? Mandy
Lorians is too long. If you are a Lourian, you
will know it, just saying I'm excited for three great
shows from six A to three P. Love the show,

(49:24):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
They are the whole thing, Laurian, you know what I'm saying,
the whole lineup everything.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
I know, five ams, eleven bms.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
So Michael Brown got demoted, Michael Brown did not get demoted,
Michael Brown, I mean.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
You, guys.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Way is the legendary station the Blowdoors fifty Blowdors Mountain. Mandy,
did you watch the movie Climate? And if you did,
what do you think? I am not even familiar with
that movie. Is it a documentary?

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Is it fiction? What is it?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Twenty twelve?

Speaker 8 (49:59):
We know?

Speaker 5 (49:59):
No, I didn't watch that.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I hate disaster. I don't like disaster movies. So good
Climate the movie I see here. I did not watch
Climate the movie. It's a controversial documentary written and directed
by Martin Dirkin. The film, which promotes climate change denial,

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argues against the scientific consensus on ethromogenic global warming, and
promotes three discredited theories. Sounds like a winner Winter Winter
Chicken Dinner. I'll be watching that and I'll have a
full report. That's a movie I would watch. Hey, Mandy,
if you watched any of the two bit Da Vinci
videos on YouTube, Sodium Ion Battle and Thorium Nuclear Reactor

(50:42):
are so cool. I did not, Mandy, I thought too
much Taco Bell from Mandylorian four nine three four. I
thought too much Taco Bell led to brown ounce no
smarty pants m Mandy Laurian four one seven eight said
who pays for the Colorado Trump loss?

Speaker 5 (51:00):
I was just getting to that because, if you're.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Counting at home, our attorney general running for governor, Phil Wiser,
has now filed his forty first lawsuit against the Trump administration,
and this one, I'm trying to give phil Weiser the
benefit of the doubt by assuming that he believes that

(51:25):
the lawsuits thus filed have been based on sound legal reasoning.
But the newest lawsuit is a lawsuit against the Trump
administration because they decided to move Space Command, and Attorney
General Phil Wiser is arguing that because the president made
it in what he says is a political way, therefore

(51:47):
it should somehow be discounted.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
This one is beyond absurd.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
The president has the right to make these decisions, and
the president doesn't have to give any justification to any
one ever, because the president has the right to make
these decisions. This is a dumb lawsuit, and we're all
paying for it, aren't we. November tenth, and I got
a lot of questions on the text line in this
last segment, so I'm just gonna tell you one more time.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
It looks like this.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
From five to six am, Gina Gondeck, who likes to
get up last night to go to work, is going
to do Colorado's Morning News with Gina Gondeck five to
six am. Six am, my friend and colleague Roskinski shows
up and he works until nine am, when then he
will hand the baton of the radio station off to
one mister Michael Brown, who is coming up today at

(52:37):
two thirty, and we need some suggestions on how to
drive him crazy when he comes in for the visit.
I mean, don't tell him I said that I am
not going anywhere. I am staying right here. In noon
to three, KOA Sports stays the same, Broncos Country tonight.
We're gonna keep the rest of it just straight up,
but I think it's gonna give a little more continuity

(52:59):
to the fact that we are a talk station, and
I know Ross is going to do an amazing job.
And I know some of you who are sort of
conditioned to a morning we call it a news wheel
in the business. It's going to be a little bit different.
But I'm just going to tell you right now. Give
it a minute. Okay, give it a minute.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Also, if someone's schedule doesn't work out with whoever host
is going wherever.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Yeah, I'd love for you to.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Listen on the pod. Oh yeah, that's just listening on
the podcast.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
If you need to live, there you go. Pod.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
So those are the new that's the new lineup.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
It's starting November tenth, and we're looking forward to it.
A couple follow up questions. I don't know what's going
to happen with k Hole's mornings. I know that you
guys are going to hear some familiar voices and then
they're going to make some kind of decision about kay
Hole's morning show.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
So if you are a kay Hele morning listener, you're
going to hear familiar voices for a while. So don't
worry about that. That is all I have to say
about that.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
In just a few minutes, in about ten minutes, we're
going to talk with Aurora Police Chief Todd Chamberlain and
I am now, Ayron, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Were they like, look, we can give you ten minutes
like that. It was the only time it worked in
the schedule. Okay, yeah, okay, because you know we even trying,
or I wanted the chief on for some time now,
because if you followed along in the Aurora Police Department,
you know that it's just been kind of one disaster

(54:24):
after another. And when Chief Chamberlain came in and he
started immediately sort of changing the tone. The prior police chief,
not the prior the prior prior police chief, the one
that Daniel Drensky called trash, I think really so as
a police chief, I don't know anything about her personally
except she was married or involved with a lunatic woman.

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She was terrible. Chief Vanessa Wilson was terrible. You could
always count on her when anything happened to immediately side
against the force, right the force she was supposed to lead.
And Chief Chamberlain has done a much better job representing
his department I think in the public eye, and they
seem to be having some success because we have not

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had a lot of those sorts of issues that we
had previously, like the horrible situation with Elijah McLean. We're
not hearing a lot of that kind of chatter about
the or police department.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Now.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Every time someone is shot by any officer, you're going
to have outrage and protest. Now that's the standard because
they know that used to be outrage and protests would
get them a big, fat settlement even if the shooting
was justified. So we're gonna have Chief Chamberlain about ten minutes.
But I have a story on the blog that sort
of goes through some of the data in the Common

(55:40):
Sense Institute's latest study, and violent crime is dropping. And
I am rooting for both Denver and Aurora. I'm rooting
for the leadership in Aurora that you have right now.
I saw a story and input it on the blog
because I generally speaking, unless it's you know, kind of crazy,
I don't talk about fundraising necessarily, But the conservative state

(56:01):
of candidates in Aurora has far outraised the progressive wing
of Aurora politics. And I'm hoping that that is because
the people of Aurora are realizing that the leadership now
is very invested in making sure that the people of
Aurora have a safe place to live that they are
working to create an environment where people want to live

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in Aurora and be a part of the community. And
I think that Mayor Mike Coffin has done a really
good job in Aurora, and I'm hoping that that's why
their fundraising has been good. And I hope that they
win reelection or get elected the first time, because Aurora
is I think they're headed in the right direction.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
I'm just going to say it.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
We're going to take a quick time out because when
we get back, the chief is going to join us,
and I want to make sure we get all the
time with him that we can keep it right here
on KOA. Joining me, I'm thrilled to have with us.

Speaker 13 (56:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
He's been at the Aurora Police Department as chief for
about a year ish now, coming from the Los Angeles
Police Department after decades there. Police Chief Todd Chamberlain, Welcome
to the Mandy Connell Show.

Speaker 12 (57:00):
Thank you, Mandy, very much, glad to be here.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Well, let me ask you a little bit.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
You came from Los Angeles, which seems like that's kind
of a I mean, we've all watched the cop shows, right,
I feel like I'm practically a member of the LAPD.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
After all the cop shows that I've watched.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
How does that department and coming to Aurora, how are
they different?

Speaker 12 (57:19):
You know what may be inside a little bit, but
I think the passion for the profession is very consistent
in both organizations. You have individuals that are really committed
to unity service. And again, I think you have a
community that really appreciates the needs law enforcement and trying
to have that collaboration and that input. I think that

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is without question one of the similar So you.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Walked into a situation, and I'm sure you looked into
Aurora's police department before you even put in the application.
Aurora PED has had a bumpy few years, and outsider
looking in, I would say there's been a there was
for some time a critical failure of lead ship in
that department. And I have several Aurora Police Department officers

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who communicate with me on a regular basis, some now
former Aurora PD people who left before you got there.
When you came in, what did you do to establish
with the ranks that you were going to lead them
out of that to a better position both in the
community within the department. Sort of work on those whole
relations while working on the relations within the building.

Speaker 12 (58:28):
Yeah, and that was something I'm very happy because I've
actually had experiences going through organizations where they did have
troubling times, where there was a rough path, where everything
wasn't perfect. And so again that skill set and that
knowledge really helped me here to be able to step
into this organization. And I think something else to remember too,

(58:50):
wasn't just specifically maybe the City of Aurora, but law
enforcement in general. I think over the past five years
has had a really hard time. I think it's been
unnecessarily bil and I think that it really impacted how
law enforcement practitioners perform their function and their duty. And
so for me, it was an opportunity to step into

(59:11):
an environment that I was aware of, an environment that
I've experienced in the path, and let them know that
I'm here to support them as well as support the community.
And so that first thing was letting them know again
that they do have that support. If what they do
is proper, if it's just, if it's within quality and procedure,
and if it's epical, I'm going to be there to

(59:32):
support them and make sure that we're going in the
right direction and we're giving the service to the community
of Aurora that it deserves.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Do you feel like morale in the building has improved,
because I'll tell you, you know, comments that I get
a few years ago were not good and a lot
of the officers there were like, I'm just looking to
do something different. Do you feel like morale has improved
and are you seeing better retention in that respect?

Speaker 12 (59:56):
Yeah, actually, we keep track of all that, and so
without question, morale has definitely seemed to be going in
the right directory. We're going in the right way. I
get a lot of positive feedback, and it's not just
what I hear just there's a lot of people that
could just tickle your ear, but it's what I hear
from the community. It's what I hear other people saying
that officers are telling them and how how they're being served,

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and how they feel confident in performing their job and
their task. Because it's a really challenging job. This is
not a job for the week. And I don't mean
weak physically, I mean just just the week in heart,
because it's really complex. It takes a lot out of you.
It's a huge commitment, but the payoff is immeasurable if
it's done correctly and done properly, and so when you

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talk about attrition again, we are really in a good place.
We are actually approaching for the first time in a
very long time. As of January, the department should be
at full staffing levels of what we are authorized. So
that's a huge win, not only for the city of Aroar.
That's unique in law enforcement across the nation to have
actually full staff, so I know that what our men

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and women are doing is resonating with them. And then
also our attrition ring has really dropped off from where
we were losing a lot of people in the organization
in twelve percent attrition rate where a lot of people
were leaving. Twenty four we had a nine percent and
right now here to date we're at about a five
percent attrition rate. So people are coming into the organization

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and the people that are here are staying. So those
two things are incredibly positive.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Is that part of the reason that Aurora has seen
a pretty good drop in violent crime? A few years
ago they were the number one city in the state
and violent crime rates and now they have dropped below Denver?
Is it because of that continuity of officer?

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Is it because you're at full staff?

Speaker 12 (01:01:48):
I think it's more than just the staffing. I think
it's a myriad of different things. Of those things, one
involved the technology that we have introduced, which have been
incredibly helpful to allow the officers to perform their task
more efficiently and effectively. I think also if you look
at some of the policy modifications that we have done
in regards to both internal and external things, and what

(01:02:09):
I mean by that is administrative issue or how personnel
complaints are handled, how force reviews they're done, giving ownership
back to our leadership, letting them know that they are
leaders within the organizations, which was not part of the
equation before. And then it's also been modifications to how
we fight crime and that's been a big part of it.

(01:02:31):
One of those aspects again involved the pursuit policy. So
when I first got here, if an officer down behind
the stolen car activated their emergency lights because they verified, hey,
this car was stolen, the only thing a person had
to do accelerate away, and our officers would turn off
the lights, make a left turn and go away. I
couldn't abide by that. You're talking to fellon the offense

(01:02:55):
committed by somebody, And when you think of the loss
of the car. That can be incredibly detrimental to someone
pinching their whole life. And so we modified our pursuit
policy which allowed our officers to go into pursuit of
those vehicles effectively do it making sure we're doing it
properly and ethically. And with that we have seen again

(01:03:15):
we're I think we went from five pursuits last year
to right now as far as pursuits were stolen vehicles
were somewhere in the area of about one and eighty eight.
So that has drastically changed. But what's more important than
just to pursue or the stopping of that stolen vehicle
is what we are finding of stealing vehicles. We're having

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people that are on parole, people that are on probation.
We're getting a lot of hand guns out of these vehicles,
We're getting a lot of repeat offenders. And so again,
people weren't stealing cars just to drive them back and
forth to work or something like that. They were stealing
cars to go out and victimize other people. And so
it really changed that dynamic. And again I think that's

(01:03:57):
something that has really improved or what we've been able
to do. But as far as the overall crime fighting
and where those reductions and numbers come. It's one hour
in community engagement, with partnership, with community finding out we're
going to the right place, doing the right thing at
the right time. But I think a big part of
that is allowing police officers to gave police officers to

(01:04:17):
get letting them know that I want to see proactive policing.
I want to see individuals that are victimizing other people
taken off the street, not just with radio calls, but
with just foundationally solid, proactive policing. So that has really
been the term. Is that one thing. It's a mirriad
of different loans.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
How is the relationship between activist organizations and Aurora who
have had and I would say in the past rightfully,
so they've had concerns about policing and police leadership. How
is your relationship with some of those organizations, you.

Speaker 12 (01:04:54):
Know, I hope it's solid. I hope it's a good relationship.
But I also I'm ver open about this. I'm not
going to have an entire city be evaluated by fall
particular groups. And what I mean by that is sometimes
you can get what I always call the loudest duck
in the room, whereas the people that scream, that that protest,

(01:05:16):
that yell, that say everything is wrong, and organizations and
maybe even the City of Aurora, the or police department
basically capitual ages for those small groups. And what really
is kind of frustrating is that the larger silent group
that really doesn't say anything, that doesn't you know, have

(01:05:37):
that that vocal nature, they get forgotten. And within that
forgotten group is a lot of viganization. And so again
I without question here I understand the voices of the
activist groups. I am here to support them in every
way I possibly can. This department is here to support them,
but I also know that there's a much larger population

(01:06:00):
that we have to focus on as well, and so
that balance, to me, is really important making sure that
one we listen to those individuals that have problems, concerns,
and issues, but also they don't set the narrative for
the entire population of the entire community, and unfortunately, I
think in a lot of ways, especially over the past
five years, that unfortunately has been normalized.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Amen to that, Aurora Police Chief Todd Chamberlain, I really
appreciate you stop and buy for a visit. I'd love
to have you for a longer visit next time.

Speaker 12 (01:06:27):
Keep up the good work, Thank you so much, and
have a great day.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
That is Aurora Police Chief Todd Chamberlain.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
We will be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
No, it's Mandy Connell and KA ninety one, m.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
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Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
Who is that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the very busy broadcast hour, the
last hour of the show, which will be ruined completely
at two point thirty by the entrance of one mister
Michael Brown. I'll go through the light up a little
bit more about you, guys. I burst out laughing during
Chad Bower's News when I heard the sound bites from
last night's Denver Public Schools meeting.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
I played him at the beginning of the show. But
they are so good you must hear them too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
This dysfunctional pile of crap that is the Denver Public
School Board was looking into John young Quist, a white
man on the Denver Public School Board.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
The horror that he's white and he's on the schoolboard.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
The extremely sensitive in over his head, Superintendent Alex Morrero,
the Latin Alex Morrero said that John young Quist was
after his job and he wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
It investigated for accusations of racial bias.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Well, the sport came in and they were like, eh, well,
you know, we couldn't really find any of latant racism.
I mean, there were people that said he kind of
talked down to him by.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
You know, we couldn't really substantiate this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
So they were talking about it last night school board meeting,
and I just want you to hear what passes for
high brow discussion among the people that sit on the
school board and make decisions about what children learn in
public schools.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
This is the Latina Mexicana.

Speaker 9 (01:08:26):
So she got to head and I'm still working through
the findings of the report and thinking about how thinking
about how I want to deconstruct the white privilege to
construction and how it's playing out, and my lens.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Let's stop there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
So before she goes on about her nonsensical lens, let's
stop there for a second.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
What exactly is she saying that it's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
White supremacy that or yeah, white privilege or whatever she
said that found that it was unsubstantiated that because a
white man was actually found not to be guilty of
something that a person of color accused him of. I'll
let her continue, but your IQ is going to drop.
I'm just warning you now.

Speaker 9 (01:09:11):
In which I see the world is that of a Latin,
a Mexicana, having lived the undocumented, experience, the sensitivities that
I have due to the race dynamics that I experienced
my whole life.

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
What it feels like to live.

Speaker 9 (01:09:26):
With internalized oppression due to the racism, having to live
up to standards of whiteness.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Standards of whiteness. What exactly does that mean, miss Guyton.
I'm genuinely asking the question. I don't want to assume anything.
I mean, we've seen this kind of clap trap spin
around in the intersectional circles where they say things like
being on time is whiteness and an emphasis on performing at.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
A high level. That is the system of whiteness. Oh God,
stop it, it's horrible.

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
And so that is the lens in which I see
and am reviewing this report and the findings. I believe
that white people never learned no, never learn never learned,
never had to, never had to.

Speaker 7 (01:10:14):
Never will have none.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
They chose to.

Speaker 9 (01:10:18):
Bear witness to the pain that people of color deal
with due to racism.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I just I'm not even listening to the rest of that.
This this woman is on the school board, she is
up for reelection. You can vote against her. I've got
your candidates on the blog today. You can just go
look at it there. But that wasn't even the worse one.
If there's ever been a better argument for preventing women
from running for office, this next sound bite is it?

(01:10:44):
This is director and Michelle Quaddlebaum blubbering on.

Speaker 8 (01:10:56):
To your statement, heart bro, I choose to believe of
the dignity of humanity, dignity.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
Therefore, I choose to believe the dignity. I love you.

Speaker 8 (01:11:15):
You. Let me just give you an insight and insight
on how disrespect happens.

Speaker 7 (01:11:26):
Disrespect slips through the crack.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
Aren't you. Oh god, we'll just compose me.

Speaker 7 (01:11:33):
You address our president as doctor Olson.

Speaker 8 (01:11:40):
During your statement, you addressed the deputy superintendent as Tony Smith.
That is not Tony Smith, that is doctor Smith.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Don't be silly acting bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Exactly, guys. I just this is insufferable. This is so
beyond parody. It's like a Babylon.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
Beastkit come to life.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
And this is what passes for high level discourse at
the Denver public school system now. To be clear, just
so you know, John Youngquist, in his statement, pointed out
that as the former principal of East High School, he
is going to be deposed in both the two lawsuits
by the people who were shot there by a student,
and he's also going to be deposed in the lawsuit

(01:12:37):
against the district by former mcauff Middle School teacher who
was fired after sounding the alarm about security in schools.
So he says, John Youngquist said, they are trying to
preemptively discredit me with this investigation. He's not wrong or
they're all a bunch of why do you know what?

(01:12:58):
And I just I cannot buy by grown adults acting
like they're hurt. Feelings should matter to me, respectfully, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Care if your feelings are hurt, deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
It yourself, grow up, grow a pair, and start doing
what's right for the students of Denver. By the way,
the real issue here was the letter sent by Alex
Morrero in which he called out John Youngquist as a
board member for things that included not clapping when Morrero
was named Superintendent of the year. That's the depth of

(01:13:33):
the thinking that went into this. I just I if
you're in Denver and you vote for these people, I
don't even think well that you're not listening to this
show because you're not smart.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Enough to follow along. Seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Back in a moment from Mandylorian seven nine four six, Mandy,
in the Great Halls of talk radio, two titans prepared
a duel, the head goober master of greggy commentary and
the fearless Mandylorian, defender of reason and wit. Microphones are primed,
the colors are restless. Only one shall claim the airways,

(01:14:05):
but both shall leave us laughing. Except technically we're on
at two different times, so you know, of course, Michael
Brown joining us over here on KOA, November tenth. They
joining me here just in a few minutes at two thirty. Mandy,
the stage is set, says Mandy Laurian seven nine four six. Again, Mandy,

(01:14:27):
the stage is set. Goobers versus Mandy Laurians, snark versus sass,
cranky nurses versus charm. The battle of wits begins at
the half hour. Tune in and place your bets. Uh,
you sir, are hired to be my hikeman.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
You're you're in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
I mean, there's no pay attached, but this is radio, right,
so you know, if you're gonna be a part of
the radio team, don't expect pay. I would like to
say a deep and sorry. I'm big sorry you guys.
To those of you who are now texting me saying
that your IQ dropped listening to those sound bites from
the Denver Public School board meeting, I apologized.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Mandy Laurian two nine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Eighty seven says, when we were in Maine, we had
Honor System cheese. There was a sign on the road
for cheese. We followed the signs, went to the farm,
opened the fridge, put the money in the can, got
our cheese out of the fridge, and the cheese was delicious.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
I am not sure where.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
That came from, but I love the notion of Honor
System cheese. I growing up in all honesty in my
hometown in Florida. I grew up in a very rural
part of Florida, and there was Honor station. There was
Honor System produce stands that would just be on the
side of the road and you would just stop and
you put your money in the box, and then you'd
take your corner whatever you needed, and you'd go about

(01:15:40):
your business. I don't know if those exist anymore. Maybe
they do out in the hinterlands of Colorado where the
good farm people live. Mandy, I like Mandylorian, says Mandy
Laurian ninety three eleven. But maybe your listeners could be
considered Mandy loyal n Mandy loyal in I'm telling you'll

(01:16:00):
make it any harder for me to say, y'all, I'm
alreaty struggling.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
Mandy Laurie in five seven one eight says where.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Was their outrage when Tay Anderson was on the board
saying intentional horrible racist comments about white people?

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
Is it okay for black people to be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Racist and make horrible comments about the white race and
not okay for a perception or something that one or
two people are a handful of people consider racist. Give
me a break, and no, I'm not racist. I'm a
white dad with two awesome, beautiful black kids that we've adopted.
Despicable with this school board is doing to our schools.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
No wonder our kids have thin skin. Amen to that.
Amen to that. I told somebody the other day.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
I was talking to a younger person earlier in their career,
and we were talking about just being tough, and I
think that this is something that especially gen Z, they
don't have toughness in the workplace at all.

Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
And of course I'm making sweepy generalizations here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Are there are gen Z kids who get it and
are going to be phenomenal and we don't need to
worry about them.

Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
But I'm not talking about them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
I'm talking about kids who have zero toughness for any
kind of criticism. And if you are going to grow
and develop in whatever career you want to move in,
you better be able to take criticism and not collapse
into a pile of tears or call your mom and
dad to come talk to your boss.

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
You gotta have toughness.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
One of the things this job has given me is toughness,
because I've had so much horrible, nasty stuff said about me.
It's like if I listened to it at this point,
I would crawl into my bed and never come out.
Although I will say Denver has been a delight. I've
said it before. Mandalorian eight zero one five says Mandy.
My parents still live part time in smalltown, Ohio, about
sixty miles north of Dayton, and she often talks about

(01:17:41):
an Honor System store with produce, milk, eggs, and various
other items. You write down what you bought, make your
own change, or send them a venmo.

Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
I love that. I love that that still exists.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Mandy Lorian four five one nine says, So, Michael, that
finally an angry old white male to represent us. Lol,
He's got you covered. Boo, He's got you covered. Mandy
Laurian nine one seven six. I'm in a parallel universe.
When I got out of the car yesterday, you were

(01:18:14):
talking about Tay Anderson. When I got in, it picked
right back up, y'all. I could talk about Tay Anderson
till the cows come home. He is, just, as they say,
a target rich environment. Not literally he is not literally
a target, but man, he provides.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
So I kind of miss him.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
I don't miss that he's in charge of anything, but
I miss his drama.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
I miss this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Dramatic post from the hospital after he gets a hangnail.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
You know I miss that, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
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Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
Hey, Rod, did you realize.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
That when I was a flight attendant back in the nineties,
you could still smoke on airplanes. Can you imagine the
joy of being on an airplane and you're that poor
fool who got that seat right in front of the
smoking section, which essentially meant all the smokers were just
blowing the smoke right over your head to settle down
on you like a giant cloth of stink.

Speaker 12 (01:19:13):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:13):
Good times, good times. Uh, Mandy Laurian won six four seven.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Most CSAs and Fort Collins are on our system and
they take credit cards. What do you scan your own
card there? That's fantastic. I wonder if there's anything down
south by me. Anybody in Dougcoe or Elbert County got
something like that? Let me know, Mandy Laurian double O seven.
Heck yeah, that's me. I'm Mandy Laurian double O seven.

(01:19:43):
I'm the James Bond of the airways. Oh my goodness,
look what the cat dragged?

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
Uber six six Goober sixty six six.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Michael Brown can't even wait till the commercial coming on
in here. We're gonna chat with him when we get back.
Keep it on Kawa, Michael Brown. If you haven't heard,
Big Change is coming too Kaway Radio. But first I
want to respond to a couple text messages, this from
Mandy Lori in eight six seven, five, three oh nine.
I have nothing to say. I just wanted in on
the fun. And then this one. Let's see here, what

(01:20:15):
are the Ross listeners called? And I am from this
moment forward naming Ross Comanci's listeners the dirty leggers.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
Okay, so it's the dirty leggers because he doesn't watch
his legs.

Speaker 14 (01:20:28):
I've heard that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Well, now you know when you come in and you're
you're going to sit in this position that I'm in
now because it's my show and Ross is going to
be in this position before you. I'm not saying you're
going to want to bring a you know, like a
Clorox wipe and just kind of give the leg area.

Speaker 15 (01:20:42):
Four o'clock in the morning. Yeah, it used to be
I usually just do it my underwear, but now I
have to wear a paint.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
Well, that is a visual I could have lived without.
Thank you, Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
As you sit here, Michael is coming on over to Koway.
Our new lineup looks like this. We have Colorado's Morning
News with Gina Gondek from five am to six am.
Because she's insane and likes to get up early. And
then at six am we have ros Kaminski on the News,
or as I'm calling it, Ross on the News, which
is shortened but to Rotten on the News with Gina Gandiak,
and then the Michael Brown Show, the situation with.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
The situation from Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
From nine to noon, and then I am saying exactly
where I am. Yeah, so I don't need to do anything.

Speaker 6 (01:21:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:21:19):
The other thing that bothers me is now I can
no longer refer to you as the blonde chick across
the hall.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Now you're just gonna have to say that blonde chick
who rules the airwaves is what you're gonna just right
over here. Just jump in, Michael, jump in now for
people who aren't like the one person who's listening right now,
who has no idea who you are? Right, how do
you describe the situation room with Michael Brown?

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
Why is it called that? Let's start with that.

Speaker 15 (01:21:44):
So, probably six seven years ago I readid all of
my branding and everything, and I had a team. You know,
yea hire a team to come up with something.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
And you didn't hire the sixteenth Street team, did you?
You didn't pay one hundred K for the situation room.

Speaker 14 (01:21:57):
No, because I can get the taxpayers.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Ok, there you go.

Speaker 14 (01:22:00):
I had to pay for it myself, and.

Speaker 15 (01:22:02):
They figured out that what it is that I prefer
to do is I like to analyze and fix situations.

Speaker 14 (01:22:08):
Sure, so it's a situation with Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
I like to make situations worse as often as possible.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
I like to consider myself a rabble rouser.

Speaker 14 (01:22:16):
Do you remember the first time you and I met?

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
I do not. I do not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
I think we had breakfast. I remember we had lunch
when I first got here.

Speaker 15 (01:22:26):
We first got here because the unnamed PD at that time,
uh huh, wanted me to come and talk to you
about how to do your show.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
That didn't work out.

Speaker 15 (01:22:36):
I remember telling you distinctly, Hey, I'm here for this
stupid reason. He's no longer around to say this, for
the stupid reason that I'm tell you how to do
your job.

Speaker 5 (01:22:48):
I'm good with that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
A lot of you are asking on the text line, now,
where is Marty Lens going. Marty was part of the
last reduction in force here at iHeartMedia. He was laid
off a little while ago, so i've he's not going
to be a part of this. Ross's listeners are not
going to be Rastafarians because that's too cool.

Speaker 5 (01:23:07):
It's the dirty, as I'm telling you right now, the dirt.

Speaker 8 (01:23:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
So are you looking forward to not waking up at
o dark thirty?

Speaker 6 (01:23:14):
Now?

Speaker 15 (01:23:14):
I'm looking forward to not getting up at four o'clock.
I'm dreading getting the dogs to shift their schedule to
the I don't understand right, So I've got to do that.
And then just like last night, Tarama fixed is really
good Italian meal. She had, she had wine. Well, I'm
in bed at eight o'clock because I'm at four o'clock,
so I'm like, no, I'm going to pass on the wine.

Speaker 14 (01:23:34):
So now I can go back to being a drunk again.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
I'm glad we could facilitate your alcohol, is it Michael Brown?
And I'm glad this Texter brown Tail Brownie is doing
a heck.

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
Of a job. So there you go.

Speaker 14 (01:23:45):
Yeh.

Speaker 15 (01:23:45):
By the way, that's that's trademark. That's fifty dollars. Yes me,
I's going to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Ask you, are you sick of that yet? Honestly, no,
I honestly give a rats ass about it. I didn't
think you would. I don't I mean there, it's onny
of the things that people think will get under your skin.
And when they trot out an old canard and they
zing it across there like they're gonna like oh, and.

Speaker 5 (01:24:07):
You're like, yeah, give you your best shot.

Speaker 14 (01:24:10):
When I say something, we'll come back and go.

Speaker 15 (01:24:12):
You're doing with job, Brownie, And I so badly want
to say, is that the best you've got?

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Yeah, that's it, That's all you've got. Yeah, you know,
I don't like to fight on the internet as well.
Mandy says Mandy LORII in sixty nine hundred. I love you,
but I also love Brownie. My loyalty is to you
because you started me down this path. But Brownie is
so insightful.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
I'm so.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Happy he's coming to join you. I think I encapsulated
all the the o's there.

Speaker 14 (01:24:38):
My sister was such a wonderful person right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
On time, you know, when you you've been.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
To see you, Michael. I don't even know if you
know this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
The first time I appeared on the Denver airwaves was
filling in for you and David Serota.

Speaker 14 (01:24:58):
Oh my god, that yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
I I filled in from Louisville when you guys were voting.
I filled in for Louisville.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
That was the first time I was ever on the
airwaves here and I was talking and I wish I
could remember who's your producer at that time.

Speaker 14 (01:25:13):
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Whoever the producer was.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
I'm talking to him before the show started and I go,
I goes, so tell me a little bit about this
show that I'm filling in for because I just want
to know what's going He goes, Trust me, whatever you
have it is not going to remotely come close to
what happens here on a regular basis. And I was like,
what he goes, it's a left guy and a right
guy fighting like an old married couple.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
And I was like, Okay, there you go.

Speaker 15 (01:25:38):
I tried to explain to management at the time. I said,
this is not going to work. And the reason it's
not going to work is even the liberals don't like him, right,
so it's and of course they are.

Speaker 14 (01:25:48):
Oh, you you can make it work, you can make
it work. So I made it work.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Yeah, I just let him implode and he did quite spectacular.
And we're talking about David Sirota, who's still very active
on social media.

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
If you want to see exactly what Michael is talking about.
All you need to do is just scroll that timeline
for just a moment. Mandy Laurian eight five ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
I love you, but don't like mister Brown because he
loves himself enough for all of us.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
Now, I just want to be clear.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
A lot of people think Michael that you have like
the Michael Brown on the radio and the Michael Brown
off the air.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
The man is the same.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
He loves himself just as much off the air as
he does on the air.

Speaker 15 (01:26:26):
But the problem, the problem I have is is because
it's deserved. So I have to get you know, I can't.
I can't help it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Have you ever apologized for something on the air to
your listeners? Have you ever gotten something wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
And come back later?

Speaker 6 (01:26:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
Absolutely, I try to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
I still feel bad that I told people to get
the COVID vaccine.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
I feel bad.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
About that, you know, and actually, in our industry, I
don't think that that happens enough.

Speaker 14 (01:26:48):
It doesn't.

Speaker 15 (01:26:48):
And it's not that I like being wrong, but I
really do like it when the listener sends me a text.
By the way, I have my own text line, so
it'll be different than Mandy's. I like it when they
text me and say you really need to double check
that I think you're wrong, or they send me a
link or whatever, and I realized, holy crap, I really
was wrong about that, because it gives me something else
to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Yes, and then you can pat yourself on the back
for being the bigger man and apologizing and correcting yourself.
On the line, Mandy asked him about his earballs?

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
What what? What?

Speaker 14 (01:27:18):
That's the p one right.

Speaker 13 (01:27:22):
I have?

Speaker 15 (01:27:22):
You know, I, I, as a former high school and
college debader, speak fairly rapidly, and I get going on
something and the brain gets way in front of the mouth.
And the other day I said something about you can
do something with your earballs eyeballs, but I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:27:42):
And of course Dragon who's following the.

Speaker 15 (01:27:45):
Never misses the opportunity to make fun of me. Yes,
nor do my listener. Sure, And what's gregg about my
listeners is not only does it carry on day after
day after day until I make another mistake, but now
they've brought it over here to you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Jared in Boulder, says Mandy. Give Brownie a heads up.
Since Paul this won't come on your show, Michael will
be taking governor peepheads interviews So does the governor come
on your show?

Speaker 15 (01:28:11):
No, the governor, I have a We've been friends for well,
I knew. I knew Jared when he was a congressman,
when I was in DCYP, and we got along famously,
but we knew we had differences. And then a few
things happened since he became.

Speaker 14 (01:28:27):
Governor that he and I have really parted ways.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Well I will never okay, so we The only time
I've ever been able to stenag him is we basically
like we basically corralled him at the DNC, Like there
was no way for him to just.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
Walk by a situation.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
So a ron videotaped that interview and it went up
on social media, and my.

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
Daughter calls me. My teenage daughter calls me and goes,
that man did not want to talk to you. You
can see it all over his face.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
And we finally got tired of like trying to play
the game or whatever. And you know, I had a
program director for a long long time ago that said,
never forget politicians need you way more than you need right,
And so it's like, it's fine, It's absolutely fine.

Speaker 15 (01:29:08):
So Hick and Loop had a security detail jump on
me one time. What hick and Looper when he was governor,
so he's out when the DNC was here. So I'm
at the DNC, and of course the Secret Service to
people all still know me, so they let me in.
We're doing it, but hicken Looper is We keep asking
him to come over to the booth and he keeps
avoiding us. So I said, just need the damn mike,

(01:29:28):
and I just walked because I know how this works, right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
You've been the guy running away from the press.

Speaker 15 (01:29:35):
And I've been in that bubble too, so I just
take a I take a whileless mic, and I just
walked right up to him and he finished just talking,
and I just stick the mic in his mouth and say, Governor,
you keep refusing to talk to I have a few questions.
And he turns around and we're close enough that he
hits me with his shoulder, knocks his glasses out, and
he screams at the troopers, stop that guy. And I'm

(01:29:56):
just like, I'm like, oh record everything, make.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
A Looper story, and raise you a Mitch mcconnald' tail.
So when I got to Whas in Louisville, obviously it's
Mitch mcconald's town.

Speaker 14 (01:30:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
So the race for senate to replace the guy who
was retiring was was on.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
The primary race was on. It was an open primary.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Ran Paul's announced, and this other guy, Trey Grayson, was
Mitch McConnell's guy. Right, So I come to town, Mitch
McConnell starts working on me to support Trey Grayson, Like, Michael,
I'm just going to say it. I felt like I
was being groomed by a pedophile, like when is it
gonna give me a Teddy Bear kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
It was just a really a full court press.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
And one day he came in to do the show,
and after the show we get done, he's talking to
me off the air and I said, Senator, I really
appreciate your input, but I'm going to make up my
own mind about who's supporting in the setup primary. He
froze me out from that moment for like years, he
froze me out. And then I found out my husband
worked at the station as well, and he was walking
in and he sees Mitch McConnell's security detail walking in

(01:30:55):
the building and he says to them as he walks by,
you guys looking to see if Mandy's here, and that
is exactly what they were doing. They were clearing the
path to make sure that I was not in the
wo so he could go on The Guy after the show.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
And I was like, I kind of like that. I
like that feeling of power.

Speaker 14 (01:31:13):
Remember when we had the Koa party.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:31:17):
So I'm waiting for the elevator and the elevator opens
and post this detail gets in holds it. Now I'm
already in the elevator and Jared gets on and it's
the detail his assistant Jared, and I'm standing next to Jared,
and I just put my eyes down. I'm not going
to say a word. I'm going to act as if

(01:31:37):
I don't know they have a clue who he is.
And I can see have my perfal vision. He keeps
looking at me like, isn't he isn't he?

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
Is he going to say?

Speaker 14 (01:31:47):
They're gonna say hi, Governor?

Speaker 15 (01:31:48):
And I just totally ignore him and the stafford Nobody's
looking at me like, don't you know who got you?

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
This is?

Speaker 14 (01:31:56):
I want to say to them, don't you know who
I am?

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
If somebody just ask Mandy Lauri at A two sixty
six said, Mandy, are you gonna shoehorn yourself into Michael's
last five minutes as you did with Ross that from
Illinois farm Ball. The answer is yes. So Michael does
not know this yet. I will just do what I
did to Ross. I'll just come in and stand uncomfortably
close until you tell me to sit down.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
And get on the microphone. Because Ross and I have
fun on our handoff.

Speaker 14 (01:32:19):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
We have fun.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Yeah, I mean, you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Know, unless he's running late and cutting into my show.

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
And then there's trying.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Right, Yeah, you're good at keeping the clock though, right,
I'm very good.

Speaker 14 (01:32:26):
It's all I.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
Need to know. Yes, good to hit that break on time.

Speaker 15 (01:32:29):
Okay, Frankly, I kind of look, I don't think a
handoff between me and Ross will work because it's a
different kind of show.

Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
I think.

Speaker 15 (01:32:39):
I think you and me, I think what it would
be a good handoff because again snark and sass exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
So my good friend the why Andy Laurie and yogi, Yes,
I do multiple. I have a good friend who's not
only a yoga instructor, but she's also a small a
and so she comes in off and she said, I'm
looking forward to the next wine yoga segment where I
can pour wine for goober Goobert Numero Uno and the
chief Mandy Laurian during the crosstalk, did drinking for the win.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
So there you go. You got that that. We have
lots of fun over here. I'm not not having a morning.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Situation as much better because you can drink. I mean,
if you drink wine at six am, you're an alcoholic.
Apparently at who Knew, Who Knew? Lots of people asking
if you're continuing the weekend show too.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
Of course you would, yes, of course, fifty stations across.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
The You know, I have history on that show, right, No,
with Pegs, there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
Little I don't know Joe Pegs. I do not know
the man. I've never met the man.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
But initially that show was envisioned by Premiere Media as
being a show that would rotate hosts so you could
get a little flavor from different parts of the country.
And I was one of those hosts until Joe Peggs
became one of the other Hoaks and went to corporate
and said I want the show walk me out.

Speaker 14 (01:33:59):
So they meet.

Speaker 15 (01:34:00):
They came to me and said, we want you to
fill in till we figure out what to do, and
you are into consideration. So I failed it and filled
it went out for like six weeks, right. I finally
sent Julie Talbot, the president of Premier, and Bill made
the program director. I finally sent them an MP three
at the end of the Beatles doing let it Be
or whatever they get back on the rooftop where it
just said thanks for the audition. I got an email

(01:34:25):
back from Julia said, yes, he made the decision.

Speaker 14 (01:34:27):
We'll send Joe Contrac.

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
I mean that's radio for you. You know a lot of people.
I realize that for our listeners any change is challenging. Yes,
And I always tell people, especially in talk radio, and
I found this to be true throughout the years because
I have now replaced in Louisville, Kentucky. I replaced a
woman who had died she had a heart attack and
a stroke, beloved in her time slot. Did I come

(01:34:49):
here after Pete gets fired and I replaced Beloved in
his time slot? So I feel like I know what
you're in for to a certain extent. You're already in
no quantity. But I always tell people it's like dancing
with someone the first time, right, the first time is
a little bit awkward. And you got to kind of
figure out the rhythm of your dance part. Same thing
with talk radio. You just got to let it breathe

(01:35:11):
and just kind of go with it, give it a
couple of weeks, and then make a decision, because everybody
has different styles, right.

Speaker 15 (01:35:17):
And I know that you've listened to my program because
I've gotten text messages from you about you know, and
then oh go ahead, So I know that when I
start on the tenth there will be some people that
will instantaneously filing complaint with iHeart like, I'll tell this
guy doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
Well, I can't wait for your listeners to now.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Yeah, now, your listeners don't even have to change the
dial to then text me whatever the nasty thing you
said about the blonde lady across the hall.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
They rap you out so.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Hard you get a bunch of Cindy Brady's in your
listening audience. They're running over you to tattle on you. Michael,
welcome aboard, Michael, Oh, Mandy, who gets custody of name
that tune? That will stay on the morning show. I'll
dial in from home to do that. If you got
to play name that cannon. Ross has created a game
he didn't create it, okay, but he has it on
his show. He can't win it, Michael. He's terrible at

(01:36:10):
his own game. I keep telling him, if you're going
to create a game, do it like of the Day,
where you've got some reasonable thought that you're gonna win
your own game on a regular basis.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
By the way, I don't rig things.

Speaker 15 (01:36:23):
You don't take the iHeart ethics thing about Paola and.

Speaker 5 (01:36:27):
I do not cheat.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
And there's a rumor on KAA Sports that I do cheat,
and it offends me deeply to my core every time
I hear.

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
Those yams say protest to anyway. No, I don't cheat.
We'll go play golf.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
I'll have my USGA book and my PGA rule book
in my golf bag.

Speaker 5 (01:36:43):
That's who I am, Michael. I'm a rule follower.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
But now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Of his guys teach.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
World of the Day.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
All right, now, Michael, it works like this. First we
get dad joke of the day. What is that, Anthony?

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
What do you get when you cross a fish with
an elephant?

Speaker 5 (01:37:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:37:08):
Swimming trunks, oh boy, As I.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
Said, those don't really require anything. What is our dad joke.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
It is an adjective. This sounds like brownie truculent. Trust,
He's not truculent at all. It means kind of stout,
truculent and thick or angry, who.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
Is easily annoyed and eager to argue.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Truculary.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
I thought it was a physical characteristic and or not. Well, yeah,
that's that you are true for me, Thank you. No,
we get it from the same source every day, of course.
Today's trivia question, what is floam?

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
P H l O E. M flows knock off to foam?

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Say, it's like when you spit, but it's just foam.

Speaker 15 (01:37:58):
When you sneeze and the snot sort of comes.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Out just like a little dress.

Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
Yeah, we're all wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
It's a plant's inner tissue, which serves as the pipeline
through which a plant's nutrients are pasted.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
In trees, floam lives for.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
A short time, then dies and becomes a protective layer
of bark.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
So that's so much.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
That's why we do it, Michael, bring.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
It out, learn grow all of that, Okay, Michael Brown,
Mandy Connall. What is our jeopardy category now? Michael, if
you want to answer the question. You shout Michael, and
then we'll call on you, and then you answer in
the form.

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
Of a question.

Speaker 15 (01:38:33):
Since there are only two of us in rug life
this week, I'm too well, I shouldn't say.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Well, whatever you want, but you have to yell something
a word, and you do not have to wait until.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
The end of the question.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
You do because it's the first time.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Okay, it is all wait till the end of the
question this time. But it's usually a blood sport.

Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
There is once again a p s A. I randomize
this category. I take offense to anyone says that I
cater these to our guests.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
The category is that you George W.

Speaker 6 (01:39:00):
Bush Presidential Library, the George W.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
Bush Presidential Library.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
For Baseball Hall of famers visited the White House in
two thousand and one and signed a bat for the presidents,
including Nolan Ryan, who pitched for this team. You did
not wait, shoot pitch for this team Texas Rangers.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Yes, and now you say who are That is corrects Crabbit.

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
The library has the bullhorn President Bush used at this site.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
MIAs zero, that is correct. That's not fair.

Speaker 6 (01:39:34):
This nine millimeter glock pistol was held by this former
world leader when he was found hiding in a hole
in the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Mike, correct.

Speaker 6 (01:39:43):
The situation room replica has the actual furniture from Washington
from this table. On March nineteenth, two thousand and three,
President Bush gave the order to start the Iraq War
to General Frank's head of Centcom short for this.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
Mandy, what is Central Command?

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
That is correct?

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
Finally, Michael, a reminder, A wrong answer is a minus one.

Speaker 5 (01:40:05):
Yeah, you've got three right now, I've got one. So
you really don't want to say a word, right.

Speaker 6 (01:40:08):
Library, unless you're so confident Brownie, even then, I I
mean take it. The Bush Library has a full sized
oval office where you can sit behind a replica of
this fast do you lose?

Speaker 14 (01:40:26):
Is there anybody in the world that doesn't know that's
just the Resolute?

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
You'd be surprised, I mean you'd be surprised.

Speaker 14 (01:40:32):
Well, I was waiting. I thought there was something behind
the resolute.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
True regardless.

Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
The first time?

Speaker 14 (01:40:39):
Did you just say you're regardless?

Speaker 12 (01:40:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Okay, regardless? Okay, no, you forget on my program. I
spoke with Charles Harrington Elster the World the word guy.
That's a little bit of a by the way, dictionary
dot Com word of the Year sixty seven, Yes tomorrow.
I know I don't get it either, because we're old.
Michael Michael Brown starting at nine am starting November tenth,

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