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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a fry day edition of the
show altogether. Now right, is not feeling it today because
of the snow. Not a fan love sweater weather. No,

(00:50):
he loves sweater weather, but snowing weather not so much. So,
if you don't have to go anywhere, I'm just going
to start the show with this. If you don't have
to go anywhere today, don't you just heard a traffic report.
It's a mess out there. Just leave the roadways for
those who actually do have to go places like me.
Mike Anthony yay. Yeah. So we'll get through this day.

(01:13):
We'll give you something to be cozy and warm about.
Because it's an't ask me anything sort of day. Let's
do the blog. Find it at mandy'sblog dot com. That's
mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the big headline that says
eleven eight twenty four blog it's an ask me anything
sort of day. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within.

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clipments and say that's going to press plach.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Today on the blog. You guys pick the subjects today.
This is some snowstorm. Don't ban smokeless tobacco products, Denver.
Jared Polis wants to jack up your power bill even more.
Some Democrats say it's time to adopt Republican issues. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling,
Oh geez, Denver Public Schools proposes closures. Shannon Griswold has

(02:02):
lost Westward. We don't have the eighth congressional race decided yet.
Hamas wants to walk wrap things up now that Trump
is president. We hit our average snowfall four November. I
have no compassion for this idiot scrolling. Michael Cohen gets
trolled and I can't stop laughing. One Democrat gets it scrolling.

(02:22):
Another Republican stronghold votes independent. Want to go tubing today?
Things to do on this snowy weekend? Get your Christmas
tree permits if you want to visit Rocky Mountain National Park.
No housing first doesn't work. Shall we talk about soup
and bread dunking? Another wolf bites the dust you've got,
mail is dead. Regun has ended her dream. Now we

(02:45):
have eye contact AI Star Wars fans, listen up, tgif everybody.
Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
And it is Friday, and oh my god. The past
four months have just been brutal. They've been rough, I
mean really rough. And I just thought to myself today,

(03:08):
let's have some fun. Let's have a good time and
make it and ask me anything. So Mandy, ask a
Rod if he hates the snow, why live in Colorado?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I haven't been around you more.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Wait, wait, but let me just in Anthony's defense, we
don't get snow all the time. It's not like we
live in Buffalo, where we get eight feet of Lake
effect snow that November it stays until March.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
I've lived in Connecticut, texture, so you can, yeah, leave
that right there.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I mean, I think it's perfectly reasonable to live on
the front range and hate snow knowing you're not gonna
have to deal with it that many times. But when
you do, it sucks.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
If I may make the texture feel bad.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
I love my job, I love my family, I love
my wife's family. Not going anywhere Otherwise I would, but
I can't. So here.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I am uh this for you, a rod. I'm a
text line Mandy. It's November, November.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
No thanks, November, no thanks. And I love I used
to love snow. I used to snowboard. I used to
think it was pretty. I used to not have to
drive as much. I used to not have to worry
about parking a car.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Now clear your driveway.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Yeah, you know, being an adult in Colorado kind of
makes you hate the snow.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
You know what this is exactly like being a Floridian
is all these people come to Florida in the winter.
That's first of all. They come down in February and
it's glorious and the weather is just spectacular, and they're like,
you know what, I am going to move here. And
then they move and then August shows up, And being
in Florida when you're on vacation is entirely different than
when you're in Florida and you have to work. Like

(04:45):
people that are coming out right now, they're ready to
go skiing. They're coming from other places, they've never seen snow.
They think this is the most magical thing ever. But
when you have to deal with it. It's not fun.
I mean, does anybody in our listening audience, and you
can text us on the Common Spirit health text line
at five sixty six nine one does anybody like moving
snow as an adult? As a grown up? Did anybody

(05:06):
love shoveling their drive walk or their driveway this morning? Anyone?

Speaker 5 (05:10):
You just reminded me of one thing.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
I actually kind of do like about it because I
have an amazing, big, fantastic, expensive snowblower.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Is I actually kind of like to do it. It's
kind of nice.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, the snowblower doesn't make it easy, but it's still hard.
I mean, it's not like a snowblower. You still have
to man, especially as deep as the snow is going
to be today. So there you go. Try being a mailman,
says this text or oof, not going to do it, lol.
The weather is not even that bad so dramatic anymore?
Kind of pathetic, says that texter. Where's Ross? Convince you today?

(05:42):
I do not know. I am not my Ross's keeper.
So we are allowed to take days off without consulting
with one another. So he's taking the day off. How
is Jinks handling the snow? My concker spaniel loves playing
it in it from Colorado Springs Trail Runner. I hinks
Jinks is in conflict in this situation. Let me explain,

(06:06):
Jinks are Saint Bernard loves the snow. As a matter
of fact, we will pile it up on one side
of our deck so as it melts, she will have
snow going forward. She has snow way after the rest
of the snow melts. But she has terrible fomo. My
dog has the worst fear of missing out of any
animal you've ever met in your life. So unless I'm

(06:26):
outside in the snow with her, she's really torn. She's like,
wait a minute, I want to be outside, but Mom's
not outside. I have to be inside. Terrible, terrible. So
she loves the snow and this is her weather and
she loves to go for walks in it. But but
if I'm not outside, it's limited into what she is
actually doing. So there you go. Today is an ask

(06:48):
me anything kind of day. That means you pick the subject.
You can ask me anything via the text line at
five six six nine, oh, and you can uh set
the topics for today, because frankly, I'm a little bit
worn out from all of it. Kylie Burst from Fox
thirty one is going to join us at twelve thirty
today to talk about the storm and what we can
expect and what we can expect in terms of when

(07:11):
it's going to stop and how much we are probably
going to get based on what we are seeing right now.
I learned something watching the weather forecast, Anthony. I learned
about the Albuquerque low. And that's not some kind of
card game, the albuqt let's play Albuquerque low. No, it's
this whole weather pattern where where low pressure sits up
over Albuquerque and then it sucks up all this moisture

(07:32):
from Texas and brings it to Colorado where it collides
with cold air and then boom, we have this. So
there you go, There you go. Attended DPSK through twelve,
graduated in nineteen seventy. Never, not one time, did they
shut down the schools because of the weather. Not saying

(07:52):
that that's smart, just saying, well, you know what, my
entire school career, they never shut down the schools because
of snow. Growing up in Florida, that wasn't really something
we had to worry about. We did get shut down
once for a hurricane, which is a little bit different, Mandy,
I'm right there with a rod. I used to love
the change of seasons in the snow. Now I really
despise driving in snow and shoveling the snow and being

(08:15):
cold and wet and et cetera. Think it happened after
years of being in the snow when I have to
be because not because I want to. And that is
the difference. That is the difference. Do you want to
be in the snow or do you have to be
in the snow. That is a perfect way to put it.
Well done, Yeah, because if I want to be in

(08:36):
the snow, if I'm up in a mountain town and
I'm going to being or something like, I love it.
It's fantastic. It's just when you have to work with it,
Mandy snow. Oh mg, must be climate change Mandy here, Okay,
this person is a psychopath. We have psychopaths listening to
the show, Anthony, Mandy. I don't mind shoveling. It looks
great when it's done. I don't mind driving in it.

(08:58):
It's beautiful. I love love snow. The more the better.
I used to feel that way when I first moved here.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
I really did again. I like using the snowblower. It's pretty,
it's pretty. I want to say fun, but it's kind
of it's kind of cool, you know, it's a little fun.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
But the other.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Day though, two days ago, our our snowblower broke and
we can't get the part until Saturday morning. Yeah. By
the way, the song, my theme song, Texter does not
say keeping the libs at bay which is actually really funny.
That's not what it says. It says keeping iggnor rense
ignorance at bay keeping. So now you can sing along

(09:39):
with the correct words.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
I'm gonna here it the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
What was that?

Speaker 5 (09:42):
I'm gonna hear it the wrong way? Now? Yeah? Good? Thanks.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know when I heard the wrong way yesterday, for
the first time of the holiday season, I heard a
little Brinda Lee rocking around the Christmas tree.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Yeah, we don't need to.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Maybe she's gonna have some bad It's true. The weirdest
text you ever got asked this, Texter. I you know,
I don't know some of the now do you mean weird?
Mean the one asking There was a guy who repeatedly
asked about the size of my nipples for a really
long time. I think I actually blocked him for something else.
But those are pretty weird. I don't understand. First of all,

(10:15):
does somebody think I'm going to give that information out?
That's the thing. It's like, you ask these questions, you
really think you're going to get an answer. No, No,
you're not. Mandy, be sure to tell Kylie that she
makes the weather report very watchable. Why don't they just
tell her she does a good job. How about that,
and that you're a fan you like her weather reports.

(10:37):
Let's not make it weird here, people, Mandy, plowing the
snow is the same as cutting the grass. You just
need to wear more clothes. But then you get all sweaty.
That's the thing. You're out there, you're moving snow, especially
if it's wet, heavy snow, so pretty soon you're like
sweating like a hooker in church and you and you're
it's freezing, so anything that's exposed is like freezing up. Eh. Eh.

(11:00):
Local news acts like it is never snowed. Here's a
fun fact about TV weather, you guys. And I don't
know if this is still true. A friend of mine
who worked in TV news for years and years told
me this a long time ago, and I always stuck
with it, and that is for every inch of snow,
television ratings used to go up point one percent or
point one. So ratings are like, you know, a five

(11:22):
point one or a three point one or something like that.
So for every inch of snow, their television ratings would
go up point one. So that's why they go wall
to wall with it because people want to know, Mandy,
what SI shoe do you wear? That I will answer,
I wear it nine. Thank you for a person who's
five to ten, I have relatively small feet. Thank you.
What does nipples size say about people? The fact that

(11:45):
people want to know about it, I guess says something.
I don't think anyone's individual nipple size really says anything
about you. I mean, depending a rod, what are your
thoughts on nipple size as a as an indication of
character of any sort? Are you on board with that?
Is this something we should invest to.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Gate with a what in terms of what coming in? I?

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Nipple size, Anthony nipple nipple size?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Is that? Should we judge people not by the content
of their character but by their nipple size? That's what
we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
You know, probably not. That's a little strange.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
People are weird yep, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Unless it's a dog and you're like, what's going on
there and why?

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Mandy. I grew up in the Tropics and absolutely love
shoveling the snow. My boys grew up here hate shoveling
so much. That's kind of like me when I lived
in Florida, where yardwork never ends. You never not have
to mow your grass, you never not have to do
yard work. I hated yard work in Florida. Here, I
love it because it's gonna have a finite lifespan. Right,

(12:47):
You're only gonna have to do yardwork for a certain
period of time, and it's enjoyable for a certain period
of time. Mandy. I got laid off from my job
on the North Slope of Alaska after a three day
wide out blizzard. Had to dig the company truck out
of a ten foot drift to get from Cooperac to
Prude Bay to fly home. Now I live in the
Banana belt in Peblo, and the snow seldom comes this far.

(13:09):
Even today, it's mostly slushy. There you go, There you
have it. When did delivery fees start being a thing?
I remember when you used to order a pizza you
paid for the pizza and the tip that was it.
The delivery fees are now. They used to be delivery
fees would go in and they would go to the driver.
But now a lot of companies are taking some of

(13:31):
that delivery fee. I don't know what for, but it's
just it's another way to make money and make it
seem like you're paying for a service, not just hey,
we're going to raise our prices. But I don't know
when that started. I really don't know that. I'm saying
that National Guard is on standby and my sixth grade
little league football team as a playoff game tonight that

(13:51):
has not been canceled. You know what, I bet they
would love to play football in the snow. I bet
all the parents would be super miserable about it, really
super miserable, But that would be kind of cool. When
you did you play little little league.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Football arod flag and they're played tackle flag.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
It would you have wanted to play in this kind
of weather when you were a kid? Be real?

Speaker 6 (14:15):
I mean really, you're talking to someone who played ice
hockey up in Netherland during a blizzard. So absolutely that
was one my coolest experience in anything sports ever.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Exactly yes, exactly, so I think the kids would want
to play Pepperoni or baloney on what are talking? Well,
Pepperoni on pizza. I don't want a Pepperoni sandwich. I
like a baloney sandwich.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
I still enjoy a good It's not even said like
the way it's spelt.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
It tells you all you need to know without even
trying it.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well, my bolooney has the first name. It's O s
c a R. Stop my baloney. It has a second name,
it's m A y e R. I love to eat
it every day. And if you ask me why, I'll
say because Oscar Meyer has a way with bo elog.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Does Pepperoni need a song to encourage you to eat it?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh no, god no. Okay, see, look, bolooney gets a
bad rap. Okay, it gets a bad rap because it's gross. No,
it's it's just a giant it's basically a giant sausage
that's un or like a giant kind of hot dog
done in slices. I mean it's again, I do like spam.

(15:31):
You obviously did not grow up poor and we didn't.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Grow up Okay, you know you leave me alone.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Oh yes, how about this one. What has been the
most life changing and valued for you? Regen treatment or Soda?
If you could have done only one, which would you
have chosen, knowing all the benefits of each. I'm gonna
be honest, I would still I would say Regen Revolution
because the knee pain that I experienced for five years
was horrible and it prevented me from doing anything else.

(16:00):
So even if I lost the weight with that level
of knee pain, because my knees were so degenerated, the
space in between my knees was so bad that it
was miserable. So you know that, but I'm grateful. What
was that exact Yeah, the opportunity to do both of them,

(16:23):
so but definitely the Regent and stuff was just I mean,
when you go when you're living in pain every day,
that that's just miserable and it's stabilitating mentally and physically,
and it's just it makes you feel like you're a
hundred years old. It's awful. So I would say Regent.
But they've both been incredibly, incredibly valuable for me. Uh Mandy.
I love shoveling snow at home, for my neighbors, for

(16:45):
friends or old people. In fact, I love it so much.
I'm ada pushing it around in a giant plow. There.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
It's different, like you're in a plow, Like that's not
physical labor.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
That's different.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
What have you ever driven a snowplow? But it's not assumptions.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
I mean compared to Again, this is the whole like
NASCAR driver athletes thing. So I'm kind of talking to
both sides of my mouth because I do think that
they are athletes, but in comparison to shoveling or snow
plowing snow blower, then it's not the same.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
You know, it sounds fun, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I've got a correction here on the text line for
what I said, Mandy, I believe the correct terminology is
sweating like a whore in church or like a hooker
on dollar day. I will just put those two together
and sweat like a hooker in church.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
It was dollar day.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Dollar she's only charging a dollar that day, Anthony. Yeah,
but like, don't go da nope, just well, because I mean,
think about it like the Friday Night Special. Yes, that's
what it is, Mandy. As a gen xer, you are
required to hate auto tune. I have to mute that

(17:54):
intro song. Sorry, not sorry, Bart, that is not auto
tune artificial. Well okay, no, T Pain. T Pain did
himself a disservice with all that auto tune crap, because
now we know he can sing. Yes, and I mean
the man can sing. He talk about it.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
If I could just ask a favor real quick while
we're mentioning T Pain, Hey, T Pain, next time you come,
can you not do it on Halloween night or the
night prior?

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Please?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
So we can go.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Oh yeah, any other day, almost any other day, come on,
T Pain.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yeah anyway.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, and Bart, I know you don't like the song,
but I love it. I sing it along. I sing
along every day, just to let you know, Mandy, I
used to play flag football and someone called me a
flagget oh boy.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Oh okay, canceled.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Plowing snow. Plowing snow with my ATV is kind of fun.
Now that sounds really cool.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
That does sound fun with an ATV?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
How about an ask a rod anything day? I'll start
where in Connecticut are your He's not from, he just lived.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
There, you're from.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
I lived in Bristol for about a year and a
half plus when I worked at ESPN headquarters, like the
ESPN so there was a time around twenty like anywhere
between like twenty seventeen twenty eighteen ish. If you saw
any Colorado Rockies highlights on Sports Center, there is a
very good chance that I produced them in that time.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Oh a Rod, We're so dumb. You're so dumb. This
texture points out they're asking pepperoni or baloney sized nipples.
Can we get off the nipple cold on?

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Man?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
That's just gross. You guys, I'm thinking about sandwiches and
pizza over here. Are in the right place, Yeah, they're
not fried Baloney sandwich with pimento cheese will change your life,
A Rod.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
I don't even think I've had what the hell is
pimento cheese.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Pimento cheese is magical. It is you you shred up
sharp cheddar and then you mix it with mayo and
some spices and some red pimento peppers that you buy
jar and you mix it all together and then you
smooth it over white bread and it is God's perfect food.
That sounds delightful, God's perfect food. Yeah, the show's going

(20:08):
to be like this, But Kylie Burst is joining us
next to give details about this storm and stick around.
We'll be right back on KOA Kylie, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
Thank you for having me leuchly on such a busy day.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
It is a busy day and it's probably not going
to get any less busy for you guys. What can
we expect let's do the next twenty four hours from now?
What are we looking at in terms of this storm?

Speaker 7 (20:31):
Well, we're pretty fought in with the snow right now. Now,
between now and tomorrow morning, we're just going to be
continuous snowfalls a m I taper off the times right
now and my house are kind of in a little
bit of a lighter lull, but there will be times
when those heavier bands set up and then we're talking
snowfall rates of an inch per hour or even more.
So definitely just kind of walk home un from mid
morning tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
So what is causing this particular storm? I learned something
watching a forecast about the Albuquerque Low and it sounds
like like an old West villain or what. But what
is the Albuquerque Low and why is it? Why is
it a part of this?

Speaker 7 (21:07):
You know, whenever we talk about the different lope, it
basically to me as a the placement of the low
pressure system. So we've been watching this storm since earlier
this week, and we see it. We've watched it come
down from the Pacific northwest, and I don't know if
you were falling along earlier this week, but we were
actually those like Colorado means where it was like zero
to twelve inches, because if that low went too far
to the east, then we were got to get completely stunt.

(21:28):
But the way that this low pressure system set up,
it turns in a way that we get kind of
the backside of it. And with that we get those
winds that go from the east, they hit our foothills
and it rises, and we call that upslope, and so
with that it creates these kind of snowmaker events. And
this low pressure system is just slowly kind of moving
on out and so that's why it's going to continue

(21:49):
to turn. When we're talking about the next probably eighteen hours.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
So at what time tomorrow are we looking for it
to move out?

Speaker 7 (21:57):
You know, I would say by nine ten o'clock we
should be wrapping things up.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Oh oh, that's good. That's really good. So people could
have the rest day to move the snow and get
it out of the way and then go about their
business and hopefully enjoy the rest of the weekend exactly well.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
And what's nice too is that we're to start melting
pretty quickly as we get into Saturday afternoon and then
again on Sunday, hurt and back up in the fifties.
But I do want to just urge everyone if you
can just shuble twice because this is incredibly wet.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Heavy snow.

Speaker 7 (22:25):
It's kind of like that cement that you're trying to,
you know, pick up, and it's that backbreaking snow. So
I would just recommend if you can break it up
into like this afternoon and then again in the morning,
that might help out a little bit.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Also, I have a public service announcement, please clean the
car off the top of your car, the snow off
the top of your car, and don't have it fly
off in giant trunks into the people behind us windshield
on I twenty five, because that is I had to
park my car outside, and so my car is outside
right now and I'm not looking forward to that that
part of it, especially driving home and having stuff fly off, Kylie,

(22:58):
what can we expect next week's really nice though, So
once we get through this, it should be very pleasant, right, yeah, exactly, So, once.

Speaker 8 (23:05):
We get through this.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
We're back in the fifties, and we've got a much
quieter weekend. I think like four out of five of
these days we're pinpoint weather alert days, and next week
we're just looking at sunshine and see the tents in
the fifties.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
All right, Kylie Berris from Fox thirty one, thanks for
giving us a little update and telling us what we
can look forward.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
To anytime they see.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
All right, thanks, Kylie. So there you have it. We've
got eighteen hours. Then it's going to be lovely. We
just have to get through this next little bit. Now
back to ask me anything, and I want to go,
oh dag navi it hang on one second. I got
to add more messages to this because it rolled off
because you guys are texting so fast. Let me see

(23:47):
I did. I just turned it off. But I also
have to go back and get more of these because
they usually don't have that many displayed one moment. Please.
It was just a really interesting analogy about the election.
People on the left are ard to have more serious
conversations that are not just blaming people reflexively for the
loss of Kamala Harris and I want to read this
one text message before we break here in a second, Mandy,

(24:12):
just a thought, but during World War II in the Pacific,
we actually have real movie footage of Native people in
Okinawa throwing themselves and their babies off of cliffs onto
the rocks and tied below because they were told and
so convinced by the Japanese that when the Americans arrived,
they were going to brutally kill all the men and

(24:32):
old people, all the women would be raped, and their
children would be chopped up and eaten by the beasts
like savage Americans. That actually happened. We even ended up
spending considerable time and resources to convince them otherwise. In
my humble opinion, this is exactly what the mainstream media
have done to the liberals in this country. This is
why I believe they are so absolutely and completely crippled

(24:55):
with fear and doom. I mean, if you think about it,
these people have been told consistently for the the past
few years that this is the second coming of Hitler.
The comparison kind of makes sense, doesn't it. What are
your thoughts. I think it is a great comparison, and
I think what's been done and here's the issue that
I'm having overall, with what some of these people on

(25:16):
the left genuinely think is going to happen, is that
it indicates to me that those people are so siloed
in their bubble that they had no clue the reasons
that normal people would have voted for Donald Trump. It's
just beyond their comprehension, because no one they know would
ever vote for Donald Trump. Because they're all consuming the

(25:37):
same media. They're consuming the same newspapers, they're consuming the
same podcasts, they're consuming all the same content, and that
content has been saying for four years, actually eight years,
donald Trump is a fascist and he is hitler. So
they ignore the presidency that he already had. Which that's
the part I don't get, Like, you know what I mean,

(25:58):
when you hear about financial services commercial or something about
the stock market and you hear that disclaimer past performance
is not an indication of future performance, well, it kind
of is when you're talking about a human being, and
we've already been through four years of Donald Trump. When
we were told by the women who knitted caps that
look like vaginas, and when protested at DC that we
were going to be put back in chains, and when

(26:22):
roe Versus Wade was overturned what happened, The states took
it back as they should, and now most states are
codifying abortion into their constitutions. And if you're a consistent conservative,
you should believe that states have the right to decide.
And we talked about this yesterday. I mean, Colorado is

(26:43):
not approach host. They're not a pro choice state. We
are not. We are so far away from being a
pro choice state that the pro life movement in this
state should cease any kind of legislative activity or efforts
to put anything on the ballot and really get to
works changing hearts and minds on the ground by creating
and supporting programs that help women choose otherwise. So that

(27:05):
is what has to happen. But it's a great analogy text,
really really good analogy. So I thought that was very
very interesting. Somebody of our snowpile driver at the airport
is still listening. One of my Texters wants to know
how you got that job. Yeah, I wonder know how
you got that job. Mandy needs to eat bolooney in Italy,

(27:25):
especially Bologna. Now would you eat bologna in Bologna?

Speaker 5 (27:30):
I mean, if I'm there, probably I would dabble the
kind of have to Did you.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Never eat bolooney as a kid? Your mom never made
you bolooney sandwiches?

Speaker 5 (27:37):
No, it is always salami, always ah, always.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
So your family was fancy, a.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Little fancy, not real fancy.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
You're bougie.

Speaker 8 (27:47):
Bie.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
No no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
No, yeah yeah yeah no. The first line in the jingle,
Mandy Connel is not Mandy Connell ruined the day, it's
Mandy Connell.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Rules rules on the day.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah. Yeah, well yeah, that's actually pretty accurate. When we
get back, I have some actual questions that don't involve
nipples of any kind. I'm gonna get to those and
ask me anything kind of day. I do have a
bunch of stuff on the blog that we're gonna get
to as well, so we'll dip into that in the
next hour, especially the one about how Jared Polis, who
is alle hundred percent running for president in my opinion,

(28:23):
he's now trying to jack our energy costs up even more,
even though he knows it is gonna jack up our
energy costs. But when you hear his reasoning for why
he's doing it anyway, if you're like me, you're gonna
burst out laughing. We're gonna do all of that in
the next hour, but first let's take a quick time
out here and be back to answer the question. Are
there any countries I don't want to travel to? Oh? Boy,

(28:45):
I got a list. We'll do that next. So somebody said,
are there any countries you would not want to travel to?
There are a lot of countries. I don't want to
travel to any any country where I could be arrested
simply for anything doing anything female. I'm not going there.
I'm not giving him my money, not doing it. But
other than that, I don't want to go to oppressive
dictatorial regimes. Although when we go on our Mandy Connell

(29:07):
adventure to South Korea and Japan, we're actually going early
so we can go to the DMZ, and I want
to experience that. Oh, by the way, I should ask
this on the air. We're having a devil of a
time getting to the right people in the military to
make that happen. So if you know the best way
for me to do that, military people who listened to
the show, if you could point me in the right direction,

(29:29):
I'd be eternally grateful because I would love to go
see the DMZ. I've been very lucky in that, Like,
you know, we've been I've had the chance to go
to Israel. So when we talk about things that are
happy in Israel, I've actually been to these places. You know.
I've stood one of the one of the Gazen missiles
that actually killed a palace. Oh it was nobody. It

(29:49):
was an Iranian missile that fell on a Palestinian man
in Gaza and killed him. We were right over near
where he was. So it's it's good to be able
to put sort of a three D you know, map
in your head of that stuff. But other than that,
I tried to go to countries that deserve my money.
That's one of the reasons I would never travel to Cuba.

(30:10):
I have a lot of friends who were like, oh,
I'm so excited to go to Cuba. No, the Cuban
regime can't keep the lights on, and while you're having
a nice meal in a fancy restaurant, the Cuban people
don't have enough food to eat. So I'm not doing that.
I'm not supporting that. Mandy is q learning to drive
that map. Yes, well, this is something I don't understand

(30:35):
about today's kids. She has no desire to get her
driver's license. None. No interesting for me and Chuck when
the day I turned fifteen, because in Florida you could
get your learner's permit at fifteen, I was there on
my birthday and the day I turned sixteen, I was
there to get my license on my birthday. And these
kids today are like, we're finally like, look, we're making
her take her permitting exam here coming up soon. And

(30:56):
I just said, when you turn sixteen, when you say
can I get a ride, the answer is going to
be no.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
It's just I don't understand that about today's kids, Like
that is baffling to me, that you don't want your
driver's license. That's it's it's so insane to me.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Well, that's that generation. Don't put that young ens because
I wanted to get it asap and I did.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Well, a Rod, we've long established you are not a normal,
you know, member of your generation in the sense that no,
let me take that back, because you might be normal,
but you're not stereotypical correct of your generation. Correct, Because
I think there's a lot of people, a lot of
millennials who are just working and keeping their head down
and getting it done and they're they're sort of tarred

(31:35):
with this stereotype that is not flattering, that does not apply.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Most people my age also have a I want to say,
obsession with living close to everything so that I can
drive as little as possible. So it's not necessarily anti driving.
It's I want to be where the happenings are happening.
I want to live downtown. I want to spend what
it would cost to own a house to do it
on a on a one bedroom, if not a studio,

(31:59):
a hundred foot square foot apartment. But be in the now,
be in the happenings, be right across the state from
a certain something, you know, be with where it's going on.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, no, I get it because I did that too
when I was young. I uh, but I lived with
like fifty roommates to do it.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
It doesn't we spire those on our age is staying
in that realm and not wanting to adapt.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, well, I will be honest. We actually rented a
house one time in Orlando that was near a bar
named Wally's that opened up at seven thirty in the morning,
and uh, just so we could make sure we could
walk to and from Wally's. It was a nice house
in a nice neighborhood. But that was a bonus, Like, hey,
we can walk to and from Wally's. It's fantastic. H Mandy,
here on in the Parmor divide, we're not going anywhere

(32:42):
or snow is about two feet right now in the
Palmer divide. Yeah, thank you, Yeah, yeah, I got this.
Oh somebody I missed the analogy? Can you repeat it?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I cannot because it's already gone and I cannot go
back in time and pull it back up. But I
do want to share this one mayby. I work in
a school district where people are scared and extremely sad,
literally crying and consoling each other because of the election.
I one hundred percent agree that they've been brainwashed into
believing that Trump is the next coming of Hitler. I
feel sorry for them. One thing I would tell your

(33:16):
friends that are feeling this way, tell them to turn
on MSNBC, CNN, all their left leaning media, because you
know what they're not saying today that Trump is a
fascist and Trump is Hitler that somehow has stopped with
his election. We will be right back in just a
few minutes. I want to talk about Jared Poulis want
to jack up your power bill. But it's all for

(33:37):
a good reason. Of course, we'll do that next.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
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Speaker 3 (33:51):
On ninety one FM. Got the nicety, it's great, Bendyconnel,
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the show. And I am pleased to have joining us

(34:14):
doctor Brian. I just told him, I'm like, I'm going
to slaughter your last name on the air. And here
we go, doctor Brian Erkola for Erkla. Did I get
it right? Doctor Erglo? Okay. He is the director of
regulatory science at Swedish Match North American and we're here
to talk about kind of a weird topic to discuss
with a physician because the city of Denver is considering

(34:36):
banning smokeless tobacco products and uh that you would think
you'd be like, oh great, the medical community has got
to be behind that, But the reality is smokeless tobacco
products can have an important role in helping people quit
and doctor Erkle is coming on to talk about that.
First of all, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (34:56):
Thank you, Mandie, Thank you so much for having me.
And just real quick clarification. I'm the doctor PhD Brian Arkle,
but I've been studying Parker titles Tobacco and Nicotine for
about twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
That makes more sense in one way, but I still
stand by the fact that I think there's a lot
of physicians who would agree that anything that helps people
with smoking is a good thing. So tell me a
little bit about these smokeless tobacco bands and why you
don't think they're a good idea after studying this for
so many years.

Speaker 9 (35:28):
Yeah, I mean, if we think about, you know, what's
being proposed by the City Council of Denver. What they
want to do is ban all flavored tobacco products. Okay,
So the issue with that is that it treats all
products exactly the same. So it's pretty much well known
in scientific circles and by the Food and Drug Administration
that tobacco products exist on a continuum of risk.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
Right.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
So you have combusted cigarettes. Those are by far the
most harmful, right, But then if you go down that continuum,
you have things like smokeless tobacco, they cigarettes, heated tobacco, nicotine,
pouches all of that, right, and.

Speaker 8 (36:05):
So those products are significantly less harmful.

Speaker 9 (36:08):
So what this would do if they ban all the
flavored tobacco products is it would ban a majority of
those smoke free products that are less risky, leaving consumers
only the most harmful product cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
I know, I'm an ex smoker myself. I was able
to you know, cold turkey at like thirteen times before
I actually quit over a period of time. But I
know a lot of people who have used these products
to quit smoking. Because for me, and I'm just gonna
say it as a former smoker, the thing that is
the hardest to break is like the physical habit of smoking.

(36:43):
You know, the whole business of unwrapping a pack of
cigarettes and packing them and doing all of that business
with your hands. So if you can sort of break
that habit first, it gets a lot easier to not
think about smoking because you figured out something else to
do with your hands. I know that sounds ridiculous. I
know one just someone who's never smoked, but I promise you,
like the entire the entire ceremony of lighting a cigarette

(37:07):
is kind of the actions can be very powerful. What
are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 9 (37:14):
No, it's it's absolutely true, and it's coming from another
former smoker back in my younger days. Right, that ritual
is really important that you know, maybe a conspiratorial moment
with your friends or in the car or something like that. Right,
So what I think these smoke free products, you know,
like you're thinking your heated tobacco products or your electronic cigarettes,

(37:34):
what they allow you to do is kind of keep
up that ritual, but you lose a majority of the
harm that comes from combusted tobacco. When you light a cigarette, right,
it produces about seven thousand chemicals.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
A lot of those are carcinogens.

Speaker 9 (37:48):
They cause cancer, they cause heart disease, they cause respiratory disease,
and all the level of those compounds, and these smoke
free products we're talking about so much lower, ninety percent
low for a lot of them, right, So you're keeping
up the ritual, but you're getting rid of a lot
of the bad stuff. So that's why they've been successful
in helping people move away from cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Do you have data on how many people transition from
regular cigarettes to either vaping or some other smokeless tobacco
product on the way to quitting, I mean, do we
have any data about that.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
We do, I mean, it really varies.

Speaker 9 (38:26):
So we know that in the United States, there's been
millions of people who've been able to do this right.
And so generally there's been scientific studies that have kind
of compared giving people who smoke an electronic cigarette versus say,
your traditional nicotine replacement therapy like a nicorette or something
like that, and the east cigarette in those studies has

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been shown to be more successful, about twice as successful
as the nicotine replacement therapy.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
It would seem that we would want to embrace any
sort of thing that can help people stop smoking. But
is the fear that it's going to go in the
other direction? Is it the fear is they're going to
start vaping because it's not as gross as smoking a cigarette,
and then all of a sudden they're going to be
addicted and then they're going to be smoking cigarettes. Is
that where this is coming from? Do you know what's
underpinning these desires for a ban?

Speaker 8 (39:19):
Well, I think there's a.

Speaker 9 (39:19):
Couple of places it comes from. First, right, I think
one of the most sort of pernicious is that you
know a lot of the people who who sort of
start these or propose these bands haven't really lived that life,
you know, they've never been a smoker, they don't know
people who smoke. So is there's I think sometimes there's
a lot of compassion there. The gateway, which is what
you're referring to people using a smoke free product and

(39:41):
then going onto a combusted product.

Speaker 8 (39:43):
We have a lot of data from the CDC and
the FDA that shows that that's not really happening, right.

Speaker 9 (39:49):
I think one of the major concerns that comes up
when we think about flavor to backward in particular, and
I think something that you know, many of the city
council are bringing up is that it entices youth to
start using these products.

Speaker 8 (40:02):
And of course, you.

Speaker 9 (40:03):
Know, I adamantly believe that no one under age should
be using these products. But if that's the conversation that
we want to have, I think we should have it
based in facts, right, And so if we think about
Denver specifically, you know, the use of any tobacco product
in Denver by youth has dropped by about seventy percent
since twenty nineteen, Right.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
That's an enormous drop.

Speaker 9 (40:26):
You know, if we think about combusted cigarettes, you know,
youth smoking youth smoking used to be up. You're forty percent,
you know, back in nineteen ninety. Now what's at one
point six percent?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Right?

Speaker 9 (40:37):
So I think you know a lot of these fears
about youth taking up these products. Of course it is happening,
but at a much lower rate than I think people
are kind of saying that it is in some of
these hearings.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Do you have any information on how this negatively impacts
businesses when these when these laws pass? Is that in
your area of expertise?

Speaker 9 (40:59):
Yeah, I mean I I do know a lot of
ways that this has gone down in the past.

Speaker 8 (41:03):
Right.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
So the first and the one that you know, I
think is most important is that it takes away choice
from those people who smoke.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
Right.

Speaker 9 (41:10):
You got seventy thousand people in Denver who smoke, and
they should have the option.

Speaker 8 (41:14):
To choose what the product that they want.

Speaker 9 (41:17):
To use, and they should definitely be allowed to choose
the smoke free product to lower the risk.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
It's a better option for them. Right.

Speaker 9 (41:26):
But I mean, we've seen this sort of band go
into place in other places.

Speaker 8 (41:30):
Right, So when this happened.

Speaker 9 (41:33):
In Massachusetts, you saw a huge increase in cross border sales.
So not only did Massachusetts and its tax revenue. It's
there were still a lot of products coming into the market.
It didn't really, you know, stop all the flavored products coming.
In San Francisco is a really interesting example, they banned
flavored electronic cigarettes and when they did that, youth smoking

(41:54):
actually went up, right, And you only have to look
right next door to Denver to Golden Colorado where you
can they had a flavored tobacco ban right And a
lot of these businesses who sold these products are in
a lot of trouble. They're going out of business, and
it's gotten to the point where the city is actually
even giving them grants to try and save the businesses
that they basically put out of business by banning a

(42:16):
majority of their products.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
One last question for you that I want to get in,
and that is what kind of studies are we doing now?
Because I know we all know what cigarettes do to you,
combustible cigarettes, We all know just the stuff that you
just listed, all the stuff that's in there and all
the wh and the garbage. But if we had any
kind of studies on vaping, are we too soon down
this path for us to have any clear understanding of

(42:41):
the difference on the impact on people's health because inevitably,
these bands are put forth by people who, you know,
in the spirit of good intentions, are trying to inflict
their will on other adults who should be able to
make their own decisions. But are are we studying that
stuff yet? And if so, what is the data say
about the health effects of aping versus smoking?

Speaker 9 (43:04):
Yeah, I mean this is a huge area of research,
which you know, I followed out the FDA and I
continue to follow to this day. So again, you know,
when you start smoking, smoking related disease takes a long
time to happen, right.

Speaker 8 (43:17):
It doesn't happen overnight. It's a decade's thing.

Speaker 9 (43:19):
So we've only been studying these products for about fifteen years,
But that doesn't mean we can't figure out what's.

Speaker 8 (43:24):
Going on, right.

Speaker 9 (43:26):
So the way that we do that is we kind
of measure the load of toxins that people have in
their bodies when they are using an e cigarette, for instance,
instead of a combusted cigarette, and we see that that's
much much lower. And when those levels are lower, you know,
you have much less risk of developing sort of the
tobacco related disease that we think of like COPD or

(43:48):
lung cancer. So everything is pointing in the right direction
to these products being significantly less risky.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Uh, doctor Erkla, I appreciate your time. He's the director
of regulatory science at Swedish Man talking about this, and
I don't know when the city council is supposed to
take this up, but it's going to be interesting to
see because it's going to be business owners, right. It
is going to be business owners that have to stand
up because most people don't even know this is going on.
They won't know what's going on until they go to

(44:15):
their store to buy their smokeless tobacco products or their
vapepen the flavored and find out they can't do it anymore.
That's what happened in Golden So I'm hoping that the
business owners will at least help people mobilize and go
in and say, look, you know what, appreciate you trying
to help us, but we're good. We're adults. We can
handle our own decision making. The thing that gets me
I understand why people would say, look, we don't want

(44:38):
you to smoke inside regular combustible cigarettes because it stinks,
it leaves nicotine all over the wall. Like I get that.
What I don't understand is that when people are exhaling water, vapor,
you know, and none of the other I don't understand
why they can't just let people make their own choices
when really, aside from the occasional disgusting cloud of cotton

(44:58):
candy smelling stuff you have to walk through, this is
not hurting anyone else. That's the thing I get with
cigarette smoke. I get it. I don't get why people
want to hate on this when it doesn't impact them
directly in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing that gets me
the most is that by banning the flavored products, you're
taking away the less harmful products and leaving the most harmful,
the cigarette.

Speaker 9 (45:26):
And I think something the Council could do is take
a moment really look at the facts objectively and kind
of really take a look at the science from the
FDA that says that, you know, smoke free products post
less risk and combusted cigarettes.

Speaker 8 (45:40):
And I would hope they would talk to some of
these retailers. I would hope that they.

Speaker 9 (45:43):
Would talk to some people who used to be smokers
and switched over to smoke free products to really really
understand sort of the repercussions of the decisions that they're making.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Doctor Urkle, I appreciate your time today, and thanks for
sharing the information with us, and hopefully the Denver City
Council will not do anything.

Speaker 8 (46:03):
Thank you very much, all.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Right, thank you. That's one of those things that and
I genuinely I mean it when I said I don't
understand why they care. I don't understand why they are
the least bit concerned about this. I don't get it.
I really don't. Mandy. How is vaping more regulated than alcohol?
Makes no sense to me. I don't know that vaping

(46:26):
is more regulated than alcohol because they're you know, I
don't know about that alcohol is highly regulated behind the scenes, Mandy,
the guest sounds like a lobbyist for the vape industry.
I smoke one single cigarette a day. Hands off my tobacco.
You know the fact that you can smoke one cigarette
a day, I'm I'm not gonna I'm kind of jealous

(46:48):
about that, kind of jealous because if I were to smoke,
this is one of the reasons that I can't smoke
cigars Like, you know, cigars kind of had this really
bright moment the sun right before I got pregnant with
Q and Chuck was very into cigars at the time,
and we would go and if I smoked a cigar

(47:09):
the next day, I woke up and I wanted a
pack of cigarettes. I am a I am either smoking
or I am not smoking person. There is no one
cigarette a day. I am a pack a day, or
I am zero. And once I learned that, I was
able to quit for good, and I think there are
people that like you, Texter, that can do that. I mean,
I had a roommate that would go out on the

(47:29):
weekend and smoke a pack of cigarettes on Friday Saturday
night and then not smoke for six months, and then
occasionally she would do it again, and I just thought,
how do you how do you even do that? How
do you do it?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
For me?

Speaker 3 (47:41):
It is all or nothing, and that is the way
it needs to be, so it doesn't ask us anything situation.
But I do want to get this story in today
because as Jared Polis is ramping up his twenty twenty
eight presidential campaign, he is also pushing new regulations on
Colorado's that are going to make oil and gas and

(48:02):
therefore our energy. And no, I shouldn't say that they're
going to make our energy more expensive. Not because they're
going to make a oil and gas more expensive, but
because Jared Police wants to replace it all with intermittent
sources like wind, solar and batteries and renewable geothermal. In
a letter obtained by Complete Colorado, I'm reading this on
page two Complete Colorado, gevernor Polus admits he's concerned those

(48:25):
same large rate increases are coming to Colorado if electrification
is not quote carefully managed. Police strongly urges the Colorado
Public Utilities Commission, Colorado Energy Office, Office of Economic Development,
International Trade, and the Department of Natural Resources and the
Department of Local Affairs to work together for a proactive

(48:48):
whole of state approach where sites in Colorado are identified
and preliminary, early stage development occurs. Now, what does he
want to do. He wants to electrify the state. He
wants all of your homes to be heated with heat pumps,
which are not super efficient at our altitude, and he

(49:08):
wants us to drive electric vehicles. Now, the problem here
is that electric vehicle sales have fallen off a cliff
so much so I had a story yesterday. Most of
the luxury brands are now walking back their plans for
luxury electric vehicles. Now, think about that for a second,
because the early adopters of electric vehicles, you were in

(49:29):
one of two camps. You were driving a Chevy Vault, right,
You're in your tiny little roller skate car, or you
were driving a Tesla that cost seventy thousand dollars. So
you were in the luxury car market. So all of
these luxury car makers were like, yeah, Mercedes is committed
to an all electric fleet. Only the problem is we

(49:50):
don't want that. I mean, I've said before I'd be
open to an electric car, but my goodness, I've seen
too many videos of people's garages catching on fire because
they've got an electric vehicle and the battery melted down
or something. I mean, this is not a no big
deal thing. Now. I'm sure there are combustion engines that
blow up in garages. I'm sure it happens, right, But

(50:12):
the problem is they can put out a combustion engine fire,
they cannot put out an electric vehicle fire. And now
more and more police departments, and not police departments, fire
departments are getting these giant blankets that they essentially put
over these electric vehicles to smother the fires. But even
after they take it away, they put it on the

(50:34):
tow truck, wrapped in this blanket. They can take it
to the junkyard where it will continue to catch on
fire and then be put out catch on fire, and
then for the foreseeable future, these cars have significant issues,
the least of which is we don't have enough charging stations.
So the charging station situation is part of it. But

(50:54):
the other part of it is we don't want these things. Now,
hybrids are selling like hotcat. Hybrids are doing great. That
is why Toyota many years ago, when everybody was like,
let it going all electric, and Toyota was like, yeah, no, no,
we don't think people want those. We just don't, So
why would you build something that you don't think people want.

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And now our governor and I want to just really
draw your attention to what he said here because what
he said, and this is fascinating, is that the reason
that going all electric is making things so much more
expensive for utility rate payers is because the wrong people

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were in charge. If you look at Germany, Germany was
the first to go all in on renewable power about
fifteen years ago, I think maybe fifteen years ago. I'm
telling you, COVID has made it really hard for me
to figure out how many years ago something happened. And
I wasn't that good at it before. So they went
all in about fifteen years ago, started replacing nuclear power plants,

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which they are a ton of, with wind farms and
solar farms and everything else. Germany's electricity rates per kilowatt
hour are so much higher than anywhere else in Europe.
I mean, it's ridiculous how much power costs in Germany.
They have managed to de industrialize their society because companies

(52:20):
couldn't afford to run their factories, so they just left.
And that is exactly what Jared Police wants to have
happen here. And he says, the letter lays out a
goal to offer developers and owners a comprehensive and attractive
package that meets their needs to electrify all of Colorado.

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The letter was dated October eighth, that was sent to
the heads of the previously named departments and outlines exactly
what Police demands the departments do to see his idea
come to fruition. For example, he says, working with utilities,
local government, and private sector developers, the state he can
develop pre construction hubs that provide early engagement in planning

(53:04):
for access to fiber optic backbone, develop a land water,
clean heating options, affordable and reliable power in a timely
and fixed costs manner to meet the needs. He uses
other areas in the country that have not quote carefully
managed the transition as examples of how forced electrification is

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causing large increase in rates. So, yeah, he doesn't care
how much more it's going to cost you. He doesn't care.
I mean, don't get me wrong. I would never knock
Jared Polis for being an extremely successful multimillionaire because I
admire that. I admire his entrepreneurial spirit that has helped

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him make several hundred million dollars. But I got to
tell you, I do think he is detached from everyday
people that are just trying to keep their lights on
and food on the table when he essentially says we're
going to do this anyway, even though everywhere else it
is driven up rates. I don't know any place that
has gone to renewable energy that has lower energy costs

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than they did before. It's like Obamacare. Remember when Obamacare
was going to bring down costs, even though nothing in
Obamacare was designed to actually bring down costs, nothing in
this is actually designed to bring down costs, and yet
we're going to be sold it because it's going to hey,
you know what, in the future, everything is going to
be so much cheaper. And when you say, well, what
about Germany, that's what they told their people and now

(54:31):
their energy is way more expensive than anywhere else in
Europe and they go, oh, no, no, no, they did
it wrong, but we're going to do it right this time.
We know what we're doing. Rate payers beware. But he
has to do this because if he wants to run
on president or run for president as the true green
president who not only did it but showed everybody else

(54:51):
how to do it, he has to force this on
us first. And you know what, if you can't pay
your bills, now, screw you. He doesn't care. We'll be
right back on KOA. Mandy, my brother in law, joyously
moved to Palm Springs in June this year. Lives in
a manufactured home eighteen hundred and fifty square feet, and
his first utility bill in the heavily electric California was

(55:14):
thirteen hundred dollars. Second month was eleven hundred, bought an
Elon Musk electric control and dropped it to eight hundred
or six hundred dollars, but still electric is not the
way he thought it would be cheaper. Nope, we're talking
about Jared Poulos's moves to take us off a very

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effective and reliable natural gas and throw us onto unreliable energy.
This is made prices go way way up wherever it's
been tried. But the governor needs to prove to Democrats
nationwide that he is the guy who can get it done.
He can save the earth and bring prosperity at the
same time. You know, there's an old adage called and

(55:58):
it goes like this, Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
And what that means is you can exploit something for gain,
but only to a certain point. Because if you cross
the point where your exploitation becomes too obvious, whatever it
is that you are exploiting is no longer going to

(56:19):
be worth exploiting, or it's going to die. Right, And
I feel like Democrats in Colorado have decided that they
are going to continue to do things that they think
are right, whether we want them or not. They're going
to shove them down our throats, and this is definitely
a pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. You see, Colorado

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government has exploded over the last few years, and people
are starting to feel the effects. We just had. For
the first time since I've been here, Denver voters said
no to a new tax for affordable housing. Up until
this point, whenever you said we need a tax down
someone else who needs it, Denver voters were like, yes,

(57:03):
take more of my money. And this is the first
time they were like, no, you can't have any more
of my money, as I'm having trouble making my rent.
But what continues to happen is they keep raising prices.
They keep making everything prohibitively expensive. One of two things
will happen. Number one, they will they will have to
put more and more people on the government doal and

(57:26):
that's what they've done. In California. Last time I looked,
wait and hang on one second. Let me see if
I can do this very very quickly. What percentage of
Californians are on governor meant assistance? Hang on me just

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click on that and give you an idea. One quarter
of families in Colorado, in California are on some kind
of government assistance. So and that could be Oh no,
I'm sorry, it's one third. One third of California families
receive some sort of public assistance. And now you've got

(58:07):
these people, they're captured, right, They're absolutely going to vote
for whoever's going to keep their benefits coming because they
can't afford to live there without them. And so it's
definitely I'm trying to find let me see here, trying
to find what our numbers are in Colorado, and if

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we count the Affordable Care Act, that number jumps way up.
So the only way to keep doing this and be
able to continue down this path is to put more
people on the government dole, which makes them more reliable
voters to whoever says you're going to be able to
stay on the government dole, and it creates that beginning
of that cycle of dependency and traps people in that

(58:49):
if they make above a certain amount of money, they
lose those benefits and you've hit the welfare cliff. I mean,
it's just a disaster what's happening here. But our multi
hundred million dollar which just doesn't see the problem with it.
So California is now a state of elites and people
on government assistance, and now the elites are starting to move.

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My brother's real estate brokerage in Nevada is helping a
lot of very very very very rich Californians buy a
place in Nevada where there is no state income tax.
And guess how long it takes to get from Nevada
to Newport Beach. About two hours driving. That's manageable. So
that's what's happening. But the governor is so concerned about
shoring up his environmental bonafides at the expense of us

(59:36):
so he can run for president that we're going to
have all this shoved down our throats and the PUC
is going to rubber stamp every every single increase that
EXCEL asks for to take us one step closer to
the green utopia that is technologically not possible. Right now,
that's the kicker. We couldn't do this if we wanted to.
We don't have the technology. We can't make it happen.

(01:00:00):
Why doesn't the government subsidize the elon electricity tool that
not well often have to take advantage of this up.
That doesn't make any sense. Our society loves to be
government dependent. They need government to tell them what's good
for them, what's safe, and they need their allowance, not everybody.
More and more people are starting to be like, you know,
I don't know about this. I'm not sure this is

(01:00:23):
something we want to have happen, which is good. Hi, Mandy,
off topic, I just wanted to say thank you for
bringing up Colorado elections and now we should move a
move from the way we do elections here. It's very
suspicious that the entire nation shifted right and we shifted blue,
especially under Jannet Griswold, who cannot be trusted. I have

(01:00:45):
a story on the blog today from Westward that breaks
out really really really well. I mean, Jimmy Sangenberger did
this last week, but Westward is a notably left leaning magazine,
and so for Westward to call out Janet Griswold is
pretty significant, and I'm hoping it means that her future
political career that she has been counting on is out

(01:01:08):
the window. I mean, I genuinely hope that her meat,
at least in the media term. Politicians who really want
to be politicians, they have a way of sticking around
so people have enough time to forget about whatever it
was they did uh, Mandy, If and when the Broncos
build a new stadium, will it being closed? If you know,

(01:01:30):
text me a reply as I might miss your reply
on the radio, thinks Gary, What do you think, Roy?
Do you think we dome it up? I think so
because the hope to be able to land a Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the Really the only way
I see them doing a new one is if it
is indeed a dome. There's no way they would infest
that much. Most stadiums really aren't. Unless it's going to
be a dome. It has to be some kind of
more out or hybrid even you know, something similar to
kind of what's retractable room retractable. Maybe you have to

(01:02:02):
if you want a super Bowl, and that would be
the only main reason you know you want to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
I agree, I absolutely agree with that. Absolutely struck a nerve, Mandy.
Hybrids are the solution. But the left is all or nothing.
They don't understand by partisan bipartisanism because they're revolutionists who
don't want the discipline or patients for gradual and transitional change.
They want radical change, and they want it now. Trying

(01:02:29):
to compromise that is more like negotiating. It's like negotiating
with a terrorist. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Uh,
when we get back, I want to go. I've got
a bunch of good stories on the blog today and
some really good videos on the blog today. I'm just saying,
when we get back, I want to share with you
a Democratic strategist who says exactly what the Democratic Party

(01:02:54):
needs to hear. We'll do that next. By the way,
Nevada is finally not Nevada. Yes, Nevada has finally been
called for Donald Trump. So he swept all of the
swing states. And it wasn't because black men are misogynist
and Hispanic manner racist, none of that. But I did

(01:03:14):
find one person on CNN. Democratic strategist Julie Riginsky issued
a harsh assessment of the DNC on CNN, and this
is what she had to say.

Speaker 10 (01:03:27):
Now, I'm going to speak some hard truths to my
friends and the Democratic Party. This is not Joe Biden's fault.
It's not Kama Harris's fault, it's not Barack Obama's fault.
It is the fault of the Democratic Party and not
knowing how to communicate effectively to voters. We are not
the Party of Common Sense, which is what the message
that voter is sent to us. For a number of reasons,

(01:03:50):
for a number of reasons, we don't know how to
speak to voters when we addressed Latina and language Leulson,
language has meaning. When we address Latino voters as Latin X,
for instance, because that's the poitically correct thing to do,
it makes them thing that we don't even live in
the same planet as they do. When we are too
afraid to say that, hey, college kids, if you're trashing
a campus at Columbia University because you're unhappy about some

(01:04:13):
sort of policy and you're taking over a university and
you're trashing it and preventing other students from learning, that
that is unacceptable. But we're so worried about alienating one
or another cohort in our coalition that we don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
What to say.

Speaker 10 (01:04:27):
When normal people look at that and say, wait a second,
I send my kids to college so they can learn,
not so that they can burn buildings and trash lawns, right,
and so on and so forth. When we put pronouns
after names and say she her, as opposed to saying,
you know what, if I call you by the wrong
pronoun call me out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:04:44):
I won't do it again, but stop with the virtue
signaling and just speak to people like their normal. There's
nothing I'm going to say to Sir Michael that I'm
not going to say to you that I'm not going
to say to somebody else. I speak the same language
to everybody, but that's not what Democrats do. We constantly
try to parsed out different ways of speaking, different cohorts
because our focus groups are polling shows that so and

(01:05:06):
so appeals to such and such. That's not how normal
people think. It's not common sense, and we need to
start being the party of common sense again. Joe Biden
is not responsible for that. Neither its Kamala Harris. It
is a problem that Democrats have had for years. I've
been banging the drum on this for I don't know how,
probably ten years, if not longer, on this. We need
to get back to being the party of common sense,

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that people look at us and say, we understand you,
we appreciate what you say because you speak our language.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
And until we do.

Speaker 10 (01:05:36):
That, we should stop blaming other people for our own mistakes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Y'all. If the Democratic Party listens to her they can
turn this thing around. I'm just gonna say, I think
that this kind of whooping may be the best thing
that happened ever to the Democratic Party, really, and I
mean that because it is forcing them to evaluate where
they have gone over the last I'm going to say,

(01:06:03):
since the before the first Trump administration, things started getting
really weird with the Democratic Party. And all you have
to do is look at the way that drag shows
became a political fire point. You know what I mean.
Drag shows should never be discussed in the political sphere,

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but neither should little children be going to drag shows.
And yet that became some kind of political line in
the sand. They got so far down the rabbit hole
of social issues that a vast majority of people didn't
care about that they lost their way. And at the
same time, as they went down this rabbit hole, if

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you dared to say I don't care about that rabbit hole,
instead of saying, well you should. Because of this, they
just called people names. The LATINX thing is a perfect example.
Latinos and Latinas hate LATINX because it ignores the gendered
language that is part of the Spanish language. Spanish is
a gendered language and instead of asking them, hey, do

(01:07:08):
you want us to chang they were just like, no,
we're going to change us to be more inclusive, even
though everybody that else hates it. No, we're going to
make sure that men who decide they are women are
are going to have the opportunity to be in women's
locker rooms. But oh wait, there's women objecting. Believe all
women ow not those women. They really really lost their way.

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We'll see if they can pull it back from the
brink when we get back. Let's do a two minute
drill today a rod because they got a bunch of easy,
fun stories that I want to drop into that and
a little bit later in the hour, a column on
one of my favorite left leaning websites, The Liberal Patriot,
has suggestions for what the Democrat Party needs to do
that looks shockingly like what the Republican Party is doing

(01:07:53):
right now. We'll talk about all that in the next hour.
Keep it right here on KOWA.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
No, it's Mandy Connell Many on KLAM ninety more one FM.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
God can the noisy through three Many Connal keeping who
is sad thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
The two minute drill. At two I go to minute warnings,
rerapidfire stories of the day that we don't have more
time for pickle. Let's call this will take longer than
two minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Are up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Here's Mandy Condall.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
All right, you guys. Normally I don't include a video
on the blog, but this is perfect for the two
minute drill because Michael Cohen, the former Trump fixer, who
was yet another person left in the dust as he
tried to reinvent himself as a never Trumper, he was
having some kind of online meeting and people kept putting
things on him, like a big turkey head, and it

(01:09:03):
is so funny and I didn't know you could do that.
Do you not put turkey heads on people as they're
doing a live stream? Because I need to know this
information a rod. I need to know how it happened. Well,
this I saw on Twitter, but I don't know what
what platform he was live on actually when this happened.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
Yeah, you can do it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
I have no idea, Like you're watching like a TikTok
live specifically, like you can give gifts that then put
items on their face or like on their head.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
It's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Yeah, well, let's just say Michael Cohen was not happy
by being made into a giant turkey head. You can
see that on today's blog, and I just wanted to
make sure you did. That is our first story.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Drill it too, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
You gotta pay attention to what's happening in Douglas County
because after being a Republican stronghold for many, many, many, many, many,
many many years, we have Lauren Bobert only winning the
fourth Congressional district by ten points and losing Douglas County
to a Democratic challenger. Now you have an unaffiliated mayor
in Parker. Parker, Colorado just elected unaffiliated Joshua Rivero and

(01:10:08):
he beat the incumbent, sitting Republican. I'm telling you, Douglas
County is changing as people are moving there to take
advantage of the great schools, in great lifestyle and then
voting to change all of it. So just something to
keep an eye on going forward. But I would not
say it's as safe a Republican district as it has
been in previous years. Next day they too, Hey, Ron,

(01:10:34):
have you ever slept through the woods to cut down
your own Christmas tree? You ever had that experience.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
No, that'd be cool one time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Well, now you have to have a permit. So if
you want a permit to cut down a Christmas tree
in the Arapaho and Roosevelt National Forests, they are now
available for purchase. They'll be available for purchase until January seventh,
which I'm not sure why you'd need a Christmas tree
on January seventh. Permits are twenty bucks. They must be
purchased in advance, and you can go to uh let's

(01:11:05):
see here. Permits can be purchased online and if you
want to get your permit, you've got to print it
out and bring it with you to harvest that tree.
There are some places in person where you can do this,
but I want to remind you some of our really
great trains, the Durango Silverton's Narrow Gage Railroad. They have
trips where you can go out on the train and

(01:11:26):
cut down your tree and then come back. So check
into that as well. Next story to drill it too.
I just got an email just a moment ago that
the Colorado Veteran Project's Denver Veterans Day Run parade and
festival has been canceled because of the weather. So if
you're planning on heading down tomorrow, it has been canceled.

(01:11:49):
It will not be happening. Just an FYI, so you
can plan your day accordingly and next door to drill
it too. Want to go to rock mount National Park
next year, Well you better have a reservation now. I
thought I was gonna hate this more when it first started,
but it seems to be providing a much better park

(01:12:09):
experience for people who were tired of being overrun by
other crowds when they were visiting Rocky Mountain National Park.
It's one of the most popular national parks in the
park system, and beginning May twenty fifth of next year,
you can go to their reservation system and get a
day pass to go ahead and go to the park. Now,
it sucks for people who wake up on a Thursday

(01:12:31):
and say, you know what, let's go to Rocky Mounta
National Park. There are some admissions that will be there,
but if you want to plan ahead, if you're going
for the weekend, or you want to go camping, remember
to get your reservation starting March twenty fifth of next year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Now, didn't you gonna drill it too?

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
We've got another dead reimported wolf. This one at the
hands of another wolf. On September tenth, twenty twenty four,
the US Vision Wildlife S became aware of a dead
gray wolf in Grand County. Apparently it got into a
fight with another wolf. It was a male that was
part of a group of five wolves from Oregon. Two
of those five became a mating pair and produced four

(01:13:12):
puffs this spring, but this one will not be producing anything.
He appears that the wolf died from injuries consistent with
a fight, likely involving another wolf. And I'm wondering, you know,
the state is giving out livestock protection dogs, maybe they
should give out livestock protection wolves. Not being serious, I'm

(01:13:33):
being sarcastic, But another wolf fights the dust next door
a drill it too? All right, kids, we have now
hit in November our average snowfall eight days in and
based on what's about to happen for the next eighteen hours,
I would say we are going to be well over

(01:13:53):
our snowfall for November. But if you've lived in Colorado
for any length of time, you know the only proper
response here is to simply say, we need the moisture,
because we always need the moisture. So there you go that,
my friends, is your two minute drill, and all of
this stuff is on the blog along with this, A Rod,

(01:14:14):
you're my Star Wars expert, right, and you're not even
You're more of a Marvel guy, I realized. But you're
also my Star Wars expert because I don't have anybody
to ask. There's a whole story on the blog today
about the fact that Kathleen Kennedy, who is head of
Lucasfilms right now, who I genuinely think should be replaced,
she is working with a director on the next three

(01:14:36):
Star Wars movies. Do you, as as a fan, A Rod,
have any confidence after some of the disastrous Star Wars
related programming that they've put out, do you have any
confidence they're going to be.

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
Able to pull this franchise out of the ditch as
long as Kathleen Kennedy is at the helm. Let me
just say this, I'll be nice first. There are a
couple great projects that have come with her leadership.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
I really liked.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
Rogue One, I really liked Solo, I really really liked
It's my favorite Star Wars movie, episode seven, The Force Awakens.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
But most of the projects have been pretty big whiffs.
Pretty big misses.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
And the last two movies eight and nine, we're just
we're just, you know, downright dreadful.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
When it comes down to it, They're low in my rankings.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
So as long as Kathleen Kennedy is heading Lucasfilm and
heading these projects, she's been doing it for the last
decade plus, I really don't have a lot of confidence
Simon Kinberg, Who's who's this this director which he's more
like I think he's more writing and producings.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
I'm looking at a lot of his work.

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
He doesn't really direct a whole lot, but there, you know,
there's some good credits on his on his on his filmography,
there's some good stuff in there, but overall it's not
not great. And I also don't like the direction in
terms of continuing on, in terms of what episodes they're
gonna do ten, eleven, and twelve, they're gonna follow a
little bit more of Ray and more of the.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
Stuff after what you know, I was the stuff we
didn't like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
So I thought they were basically like new people, where
they would refer back to the cannon like they would
refer back to the history. But it was a whole
I was given I was under the impression I've for
watching the video that it's all and the videos on
the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Yeah, I thought it
was going to be all new characters with maybe just
like a mention back or something.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
It's gonna be new.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
There's gonna be some ray stuff potentially mixed in there,
but it is going to be new. But if they're
going to do new, I get you want to go
in the future. But there's a lot of Star Wars fans,
like for me, that want to see some stuff like
pre prequel, some like Old Republic, some older Star Wars products.
But eventually the problem with doing that, I get that
it's kind of capped because you can only do so
much in the past before you meet the presence of

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what has already been done.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
So I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
But again, Kathleen Kennedy, most Star Wars, if not a
good chunk of majority of Star Wars fans, would prefer
if lucasfilm and Star Wars moved on without her at
the Helm.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
So I will tell you that Mark Hamill is one
of those actors whose politics makes me want to not
watch him in things ever. Again. Yeah, and there's only
three of those three actors that their political stances have
turned me off so much to them as people. Now
we got Mark Hamill, Danny Glover, and Sean Penn. But

(01:17:20):
Sean Penn has been very quiet as of late. He
used to be out there raving around like talking about
how you know Hugo Chavez was a genius in Venezuela,
and I haven't heard anything from on that note.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
Have you seen the comparisons between these last three elections
and what the movie titles are?

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
Four, five and six.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
Twenty sixteen Donald Trump, A New Hope, twenty twenty election,
Empire Strikes Back, and twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Turn of the Jedi.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
That is hilarious. Also, I love that. That is fantastic.
Let's take a quick time out. We'll be right back.
I appreciate all of you telling me not to forget
Robert de Niro in my list of actors, that their
politics have so turned me off. But for some reason,
I first of all, I've managed to carefully avoid Robert
de Niro's brand of hate, so I can still watch

(01:18:12):
his movies. But let's be real, Robert de Niro is
at the stage in his career where he is just
taking roles for money, and a lot of the films
he's been in as of late are honestly, I just
have no desire to see them. So that's there. Yeah, yeah,

(01:18:32):
because yeah, anyway, got a lot of things on the
blog today that are I'd love for you to see.
First of all, great video about the great debate about
whether or not you can dunk your bread into your
soup in the UK and the answer is no. But

(01:18:57):
there is a stitch coming in on this. And here's
the thing, you guys, if you don't know what I
mean what I'm saying, there's a stitch coming in. I'm
fascinated by this, Arod. I have a question for you.
I have a really dumb question, super dumb question. So
if I wanted to stitch something together to someone else's video,
how do you do that? Because people that I see

(01:19:17):
doing it all the time, they're not smarter than me.
They just know something I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
Is this on TikTok?

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Like I'm going to be on TikTok?

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
That's well, well, well, well, Mandy, when it comes to stitching,
that's typically a TikTok thing. So you're not the only
place I can do it, uh, I mean no, you
can edit it like manually elsewhere, but stitching, to my knowledge,
is a TikTok thing.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
So you will not be stick.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Hey, I don't want be doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
Yeah, you won't be doing that. Why what's the what
did someone ask you to? If someone want you to?
Did someone No, I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
I thought about this because I see these things all
the time. You guys, have you ever really thought about
what's on the internet.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
I mean, so my mother, you might be able to
do on insta anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Okay, so my mother was about to be eighty one.
She has cut the cord. So all she does is
watch YouTube channels now and last, you know, the last
time I saw her, she made me watch like forty
five minutes of this woman who is very, very country.
She's very country, and she does these like I'm going
to feed a family of five for a week on

(01:20:24):
thirty dollars, And then she makes these recipes out of
out of stuff. And some of them don't look horrible.
Some of them truly do look horrible, like like I
would be like, I am not eating that kind of horrible.
But I think to myself, there's all of these people
on the internet that would have I would have never
known that woman existed, and yet she has thousands and

(01:20:45):
thousands and thousands of followers. I find that fascinating. The
democratization of entertainment is one of the greatest things that
the Internet has provided us. When we get back, I
have one big column. I'm not going to share the
whole column, but it is a column by a guy
whose name I'm uh ay Rod. How do I say

(01:21:08):
the I believe Hispanic name?

Speaker 6 (01:21:11):
Are you? Why?

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
How do I say that?

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Are you?

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
Why?

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
His name is maybe whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Rye Rue?

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
I haven't heard that one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
He writes with the Liberal Patriot, and he wrote a
really long column about the fact that the Democratic Party
is no longer fit for its mission, which is to
provide an alternative to the Republican Party. And when we
get back, I'm going to share you the list that
he thinks is.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
How is it now? I'm saying roy too, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Well, I don't know, but in any case, it's a
great column. But when you hear his list of what
the Democratic Party should do in order to convince voters,
it's going to seem very very familiar. We're gonna do
that next am blogsite called The Liberal Patriot that I
really like. It is a very very thoughtful analysis written
from a left leaning perspective, and the team there does

(01:22:08):
an incredibly good job. And now, you guys on the
text line said that are you y is pronounced either
rue or roy. I don't know, but Roy to Schera
is the guy who wrote this column in The Liberal Patriot,
And in it he talks about how the Democratic Party

(01:22:28):
is no longer capable of being a counterbalance to the
Republican Party. And he goes to all these reasons, all
of which I think are really brilliant and smart, and
the Democratic Party would do well to listen to him.
But then then he gets to the list of what
he thinks the Democratic Party should do in order to
be a palatable party to voters. Again, and you guys,

(01:22:52):
I read this list with my mouth. Agog I'm just
going to share it with you. Number one, equality of
opportunity is a fundamental American principle. Equality of outcome is
not that sounds super familiar. I just can't remember where

(01:23:13):
I heard that before. He continues, America is not perfect,
but it is good to be patriotic and proud of
the country. Now it's all starting to sound really familiar.
He continues, discrimination and racism are bad, but they're not
the cause of all disparities in American society.

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Racial achievement gaps are bad and we should seek to
close them. However, they are not due just to racism,
and standards of high achievements should be maintained for people
of all races. And next, no one is completely without bias,
but calling all white people racists to benefit from white

(01:23:53):
privilege and American society a white supremaist society is not
right or fair. One more, America benefits from the presence
of immigrants, and no immigrants even if illegal, should be mistreated.
But border security is hugely important, as is an enforceable
system that fairly decides who can enter the country. He's

(01:24:18):
got more police must conduct, and brutality against people of
any race is wrong, and we need to reform police
conduct and recruitment. However, more and better policing is needed
to get criminals off the streets and secure public safety
that cannot be provided by defunding the police. He wants
democrats to say there are underlying differences between men and

(01:24:40):
women that should not all be attributed to sexism. However,
discrimination on the basis of gender is wrong and should
always be opposed. He continues. People who want to live
as a different gender from their biological sex should have
that right. However, biological sex is real and space is
limited to biolo logical women in areas like sports and

(01:25:02):
prisons should be preserved. Medical treatments like drugs and surgery
are serious interventions that should not be available on demand,
especially for children. Now I'm reminding you this is what
he proposes the Democratic Party adopt to bring back voters.
There's more. Language policing has gone too far by and large.

(01:25:22):
People should be able to express their views without fear
of sanction by employer, school, institution, or government. The free
speech is a fundamental American value that should be safeguarded everywhere.
He's not done. Climate change is a serious problem, but
it won't be solved overnight. As we move toward a
clean energy economy with an all of the above strategy,

(01:25:46):
energy must continue to be cheap, reliable, and abundant. That
means fossil fuels, especially natural gas, will continue to be
an important part of that mix. I know, are your
mouths open? Yet are your mouths open. But I'm not
even done yet. He says. We must make America more equal,
but we also must make it richer. There's no contradiction

(01:26:09):
between the two. A richer country will make it easier
to promote equality, it continues. The growth is the worst
idea on the left since communism. Ordinary voters want abundance,
more stuff, more opportunity, cheaper prices, nicer, more comfortable lives.
The only way to provide that is with more growth,

(01:26:29):
not less than. He continues, We need to make it
much easier to build things from housing to transmission lines
to nuclear reactors that cannot happen without serious regulatory and
permitting reform. Two more, just hang in with me, hang
in there. America needs a robust industrial policy that goes

(01:26:51):
far beyond climate policy. We're in direct competition with nations
like China, a competition we cannot win without building on
cutting edge scientific research in all fields. Last one, national
economic development should prioritize the left behind areas of the country.
The New Deal under Franklin Roosevelt did this, and we

(01:27:13):
can do it today. Trickle down economics from rich metropolitan
areas is not working, and this is what he wants
the Democratic Party to adopt on On the face of it,
it appears he just wants to make them into Republicans.

(01:27:35):
Because if you've listened to this show for any length
of time, any length of time, you have heard me
advocate I think maybe all of these positions, if not all,
then very very close to all of these positions over
the years. And don't get me wrong, I would love
it if the Democratic Party adopted this platform. I would
love it if they decided to drop all of the idiocy,

(01:27:58):
the hate speech, the accusations, the canceling, the trying to
shut down anyone who disagrees with him instead of arguing
their point and winning the argument. That would be incredible
for the United States of America, Absolutely incredible. When I
read the first one, equality of opportunity is a fundamental
American principle. Equality of outcome is not what are repudiation

(01:28:22):
of everything Kamala Harris and Joe Biden were about. Especially
Kamala Harris, though he leaned into that We're gonna make
sure everybody comes out the same. You can't do that
because you never bring other people up. You only bring
people down when you do that. Mandy Rue will be

(01:28:43):
canceled soon. No, he's kind of in the liberal patriot
space because he's kind of been canceled for a while
on the furthest corners of the left. They're not a fan.
It's why he started the liberal patriot. And by the way,
the liberal in that is in the classical sense of
the world liberal that doesn't exist anymore, in the sense

(01:29:04):
that he believes that people have an inherent right to
make their own choice and self guide their own lives.
This person on the text line, he just needs to
become a Republican. It does appear that way, this person says.
And you can text us on the common Spirit health
text line at five six six nine zero. I sent
the list in the article to a close, close friend
in California who is fully infected with Trump derangement syndrome.

(01:29:27):
He said he agreed with most of the list and
did read the article. Maybe there's hope for him. Did
you see this? San Francisco and Oakland both recalled their mayors,
and not only that in San Francisco where they have choice,
voting a very moderate democrat one in San Francisco. Now
I know what you're thinking. You're like, Oh, a Democrat

(01:29:50):
of course, a moderate Democrat one, and he ran on
a platform of cleaning up the city and increasing law
enforcement in San Francisco. That is what he ran on.
Now he was in the lead in rank choice voting
right from the beginning. By the way, Alaska still has
not decided ranked choice voting. They're still counting ballots, and

(01:30:12):
the rural areas, which were the areas that liked it
the most, are still bringing their ballots in. So it's
going to be very interesting to find out if rank
choice voting is repealed in Alaska. So Mandy, I must
know who you're talking about. Missed his name, Happy Friday.
His name, I think the first name is pronounced rue

(01:30:34):
ruey roy and his last name is to share up.
But it doesn't look like that at all. You can
go to the blog at Mandy's blog dot com. You'll
see a bunch of bullet pointed points on the blog today.
Those are the bullet points from his column. It's a
great column. I mean it is a great column, but
I don't think it will ever happen. This Texter said Mandy.

(01:30:54):
Most of my liberal friends vote left but live their
own lives as conservatives, and those are the people that
I put in the camp of you, you're socially liberal
in the sense that you don't want to tell anybody
else what to do, but you're fiscally conservative. And there's
a lot of people, and I know that this is
going to sound crazy to some pro life people. There
are a lot of people of very strong faith who

(01:31:17):
do not believe it is the government's role to tell
someone whether or not to have an abortion. There's a
good chunk as evidenced by the voting on abortion in
states that have a fairly religious population. Nebraska and Florida
are the only two states that have voted down the
codification of abortion into their constitutions. And I think if

(01:31:40):
Planned Parenthood wanted to run a different version of those
bills that didn't require taxpayers to pay for abortions, it
might pass. It might. I don't know, Mandy, that read
direction list is mostly core conservative positions. Like you say,
glad they didn't run on those, Even if they're lying,
they would have won. Isn't that sad that we think

(01:32:01):
about that? Like, I hope that you know, even if
they're lying, I would have voted for them. That's so sad.
It's so incredibly sad. The problem with these this list
and your right Texter, these are core conservative values, a
lot of them. They would upend many different factions of
the Democratic Party if you want to go after the

(01:32:22):
one that says racial achievement gaps are bad and we
should seek to close them. However, they are not just
due to racism, and standards of achievement should be maintained.
That is a direct slap in the face to the
teachers Union, because the teachers Union is very invested in
telling you that the reason that black and brown students

(01:32:43):
are falling so far behind is because of racism, instead
of saying, okay, black and brown students are not learning
on grade level, what do we need to do to
help them get up to speed. That's my biggest frustration
with the education industrial complex, and we do have an
education industrial complex. In their zeal to make sure that

(01:33:04):
every kid is treated exactly the same, they're ignoring the
fact that some kids aren't learning that way, which is
where charter schools started in the first place. Charter charter
schools started because some kids need a different way to learn,
and that is what charter schools have done. Charter schools
with very high populations of black and Hispanic students are

(01:33:27):
performing at a very high level many many times, not
all of them. Not every charter school is a great school,
and that would just because it's a charter school doesn't
mean it's a great school, right, But there are a
lot of really great charter schools that are seeing huge
gains with black and brown students, and yet public schools
are they calling to ask, how are you guys fixing it? No,
because the teachers unions are just going to tell you

(01:33:49):
it's all about racism. The tests are racist, that's the problem.
And at the same time, you've got black and brown
students and their parents who are saying, oh, I can't learn,
I can't do better, it's the whole system is racist.
Therefore they have been relieved of their responsibility to make
an effort. I mean, there's some fundamental truths about kids

(01:34:10):
coming to school ill prepared. And if you are a
richer family, and by the way, this cuts across racial lines.
If you have upper middle class Black parents and upper
middle class Hispanic parents, their children are far more likely
to achieve at the same level as their white peers.

(01:34:31):
But as soon as you get into lower socio economic classes,
the schism gets pretty big, pretty big. But even white
kids from very poor backgrounds do not perform well, and
they don't learn. And we've got to figure out how
to help them when they come to school unprepared. And
it might mean bringing back summer school for these kids,

(01:34:53):
but that makes teachers work the summer. YadA, YadA, YadA.
It's a big deal. Yes to the person who said, Mandy,
you could have written that column yourself, Yes, I could have,
but they wouldn't have listened to me because I am
not ostensibly on their side. So anyway, Kamala always said
she was frequently the last person in the room. Don't
let the door hit you on the way out, says

(01:35:13):
this texter. No, I would imagine she's not going to
be the last person in the room this time. You
know what I'm interested to see. Do you guys remember
when George W. Bush finally won the White House? They
went to do the transition into the new George W.
Bush administration, and all of the Clinton employees had pulled

(01:35:35):
all of the W keys off of the keyboards in
every computer in the White House. Did you hear about that,
a rod you were young? No, Yeah, they pulled all
of the W's off every keyboard in the White House
because George W. Bush was taking over. I hope none
of that crap happens. I hope we can just move on.

(01:35:57):
By the way, I saw a video of Joe Biden
that was supposedly from today. He looks quite chipper. Dare
I say there was a little bounce in his step,
a rod, a little revenge bounce. I did see this article,
and I'm trying to find out if anybody else is
reporting it. According to The New York Post, Senate Democrats

(01:36:17):
are furiously debating whether to push out US Supreme Court
Justice Soda Soda Mayor. She's a seventy year old woman
with diabetes, and they're afraid that Donald Trump is going
to get to a point another judge if anything happens
to her in her health. So they're thinking of asking
her to step down before Joe Biden leaves office. That

(01:36:39):
is because they control the Senate right now too, so
they could shove through a nomination, just like Mitch McConnell
refused to shove through a nomination once as well. So
interesting sort of backbiting going on. I just find that fascinating,
really really fascinating. Mandy, have you seen the docum mentary

(01:37:00):
Factory City. It's about one of a few huge factories
in China. That's pretty much a city. People marry and
have families whose kids work at the factories once a teen.
They produce products from the very start bare metal down
to the plastic wire connectors. They make very little money,
but housing and food or subsidized. How can the US

(01:37:21):
compete with this? Those are called factory townes, just like
we used to have here. But they're inherently unfair and
eventually the Chinese people will rise up against it. Anyway,
DEM's blaming voters for Harris's loss because they didn't get
the message is like a teacher blaming their students for
a poor test performance. Perhaps you did a crappy job

(01:37:41):
teaching them. And I will let that texter have the
last word, because now it's time for the most exciting
segment on the radio of its guide in the wild
of the day from Ryan Edwards. Everybody, all right, it
is time for the dad joke of the day. Please, Anthony, I.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
Like this one.

Speaker 6 (01:38:00):
This is a fresh one, and it takes a lot
for me to like one that I haven't heard in
a while, or actually, no, I haven't heard this at all.
I adopted a dog from a blacksmith. Okay, as soon
as I brought him home, he made a bolt for
the door.

Speaker 5 (01:38:14):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Yeah, that's pretty funny. All right. Yeah, today's word is
today please.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Adjective numinous, numinous, huminous us. I got to call you
that huminous adjective.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
It sounds like luminous, but it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:38:37):
It is not multiple or many.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Yea.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
I was thinking some numbers, but.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
I'm going to say something to do with stamps, with stamps. Yeah, stamps,
it's numinous. It's a very rare stamp. It's something a rare.

Speaker 6 (01:38:53):
St It's a word that describes things that have a
mysterious or spiritual quality.

Speaker 5 (01:39:00):
Something new newmanus humans.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
All right, Today's trivia question. President George W. Bush was
the owner of what sports team Rangers?

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
Yeah, yes, correct.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
I didn't even have a lot of big answer for
that one, So there you go. Yeah, yeah, he loves baseball.
That's way throughout such a good question.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
Say didn't he do it a couple of times?

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Yeah? I don't know. The one everybody remembers is the
one from right after nine to eleven. So yeah, anyway,
what is our jeopardy category?

Speaker 6 (01:39:34):
It's a new machine. Okay, it's a new machine. Basically,
I'm gonna tell you about machines. You gotta tell me
which ones they are. Holiday Inn founder Kemmen's Wilson was
sick of being charged for this, and he put machines dispensing.

Speaker 5 (01:39:49):
It free in his hotels.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
Many water.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
Wrong. Oh, man, yeah, I'm I feel like I know it,
but I won't be negative. So what is ice ice?
Ice machines?

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
I would have been wrong. You're right there.

Speaker 6 (01:40:10):
The first public ATM dealing in this currency opened in
Vancouver in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Manny, what is the Canadian dollar?

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
Oh my god? Minus too?

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
Just take it? Ryansy, what is the earl?

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
No, no, no, no? What is bit cooin?

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Oh? Bitcoin? Twenty thirteen? Rye, you're giving her a chance.
It's okay.

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
Even full sized cars became compact and easily removed as
the Ai John Company started making these alliterative machines in
the sixties.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Wait, read that whole thing again.

Speaker 6 (01:40:49):
Full sized cars became compacts and easily removed. Okay, and
it's a two word alliterative machine made in the sixties.
How do you make compact full sized cars easily removable?

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
You do what to them that are called car crushers?

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
Oh, I was gonna guess that, but I'm already down too,
you know, I gotta I gotta save myself here.

Speaker 6 (01:41:15):
Before his partner Eli Whitney even got a patent. Phineas
Miller was deceiting with this machine in Mulberry Grove, Georgia.

Speaker 5 (01:41:25):
So it's a deceding Yeah, what's.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
The cotton gin minus one? Now we're tied, Ryan, Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
In nineteen sixty nine, Leonard Kleinrock and his team sent
the first message over the Internet with the first this
which now connects devices like modems, Ryan, Ryan, what is
the Internet?

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
No, da no. And he's gonna hold I'm sitting.

Speaker 8 (01:41:53):
Is a router rouder motive.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
That's what threw me off.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Was like.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Performance ever rides like we're just gonna pretend this never happened. Okay,
little secret between me and you. Nothing happened on Friday.
We skipped of the day. It's fine, we skipped it.
What's coming up on KOA Sports?

Speaker 6 (01:42:12):
Obviously we got a big game for the Broncos and
for the bus, so we'll get into both of those things.

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
Passer Tan Joints is at three thirty. Looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
All Right, that's all coming up next. You guys, have
a great weekend. Stay off the roads unless you have
to be shovel that snow carefully, don't give yourself a
heart attack. We will see you back here on Monday
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