December 3, 2025 • 17 mins
JON JUSTICE TALKS MINNESOTA At Twin Cities News Talk every morning so I thought I'd bring him on to talk about the fallout from the massive fraud taking place there. He's on at 2:30 today. I watched this interview with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and was actually grateful that Jared Polis leads our state for a minute. I skipped the softball TRUMP BAD opening question so you can get to the meat of it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Governors don't get to just talk theoretically. We have to
solve problems. And I will note it's not just Somali's.
Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota's a prosperous days, a
well run state or triple A bond rated. But that
attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're doing
everything we can, but to demonize an entire community on
the actions of a few, it's lazy. And as you
(00:21):
heard Senator Kelly say, this president has cut a lot
of inspector generals. He's cut programs that could help us
tackle us on.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So we are we'll take it on.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We'll put folks in jail. I don't care what your
nationality is, I don't care who your religion is, your color,
if you're committing crimes. These are programs that were meant
to serve students with autism, to housing, and to making
sure people had enough to eat. There's a reason Minnesota
ranks as the top lowest childhood poverty, best place for
children to live. People are taking advantage that they're going
(00:52):
to prison. That is totally disconnected with demonizing an entire
group of people who came here fleeing civil war and
created a vibrant community that makes Minnesota in this country better.
But that's Donald Trump deflect demonies, come up with no solutions.
He's not going to help fix anything. On fraud, my god,
there's a big difference between fraud and corruption, and corruption
(01:12):
is something he knows about.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Those are the dulcet tones of Governor Tim Walls from Minnesota.
And my next guest, who I'm looking at right now
on our zoom call, is openly shaking his head and
just you're making a face, John Justice, of what is
it twin City's news Talk. I want to make sure
I get that out. Katoka is the station, an iHeart station.
You can listen online if you want. John, First of all,
(01:34):
welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
That clip you played has gotten quite the workout on
my show this week.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So I laughed out loud when he said that the
reason this was happening is because Trump fired inspector generals.
As if Tim Walls is going to let Trump administration
inspector generals into the state of Minnesota, it is comically stupid.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, well that's our governor actually summed him up perfectly.
He is comically stoopid the country. The country saw.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That firsthand last year.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh yeah, and we were all giddy when he was
tapped to be Kamala Harris's VP, because the rest of
the country got to see what a buffoon this guy is. Unfortunately,
what we're dealing with now with the exposure of fraud
that we've known about for a long time.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That just didn't make it out.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
We all thought it was going to We all thought
this was going to become sort of a centerpiece of
a talking point of walls and he just completely escaped
scrutiny last year up until these past couple of weeks
when the dam has just broken loose in Minnesota is
now the epicenter of the news cycle.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So I asked John off the air, how long people
in Minnesota in media have known about the depth of
this corruption with the welfare system. And we're talking billion
with a B dollars stolen fraudulently, a lot of which
went back to fund Somali warlords.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
How long have you guys known about this?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Well, if you go back to if you start with
feeding our future, you've got to go back at least
four years now. Along with feeding our future, we've had
fraud within the daycare center system and then more recently
the autism centers, health and Human services.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But we've known about.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
This fraud being perpetuated for the for the better part
of four years. It really has just been the dollar
amount that's been growing and changing. And then of course
the reporting by City Journal about a week and a
half ago that went, you know, in depth with those
multiple credible sources saying that Minnesota taxpayers are basically one
of the biggest funders of al Shabab in Somalia.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But we've we've known for years.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So what's fascinating to me about this story. There's a
couple of things. Number One, a lot of this money
is actual federal taxpayer dollars. Let's be real, this is
not isolated. The Minnesota taxpayer is not the only one
footing the bill for this, because a lot of these
were ARPA dollars that were being thrown out out you know,
like like candy at or parade. And one of the
other things that I find fascinating is the employees of
(04:07):
Minnesota's HHS took to Twitter to throw everybody under the bus.
They were like, we're not taking a hit on this
we tried to tell the Walls administration, and not only
did he not help us root out the fraud, he
retaliated against the whistleblowers.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Tell me about that part of this.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Well, what's really interesting about that there's a one account
that's associated with they say about four hundred and eighty
different DHS employees. It's a fraction of the number of
employees within DHS here in Minnesota. They've been blowing the
whistle on this for a long time, but again, just
like what we're talking about now, it just simply has
not gained national attention and barely uplip when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Local news coverage.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
What's interesting about that, though, is I've been receiving phone
calls for the past year and a half from DHS
employees anonymously telling me what those DHS employees are now
getting the attention for when I talk about the fraud
within the autism centers and the other services that mostly
pass under the DFL when they had complete control between.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Twenty three and twenty four here in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
DFL is your Democratic Party, to be clear, because we
don't have DFL here.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
What does DFL actually stand for?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I couldn't remember, so Democrat Farmer Labor.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Okay, So DFL is the Democratic Party in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Continue right, So, and they're not associated with the farmers
at all anymore. Why did they just carry that moniker
as a badge of honor.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So I've had.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Employees, as we talked about the fraud on the show,
tried to further expose it. I've had those employees telling
me John, I work in DHS, we see the red flags,
We saw the massive increase in the requests of funding
that just simply is unnatural. We take it to our
bosses and we get ignored. We say it's being looked at,
we'll take care of it, or they just say, you
(05:51):
know what, it's too big for us to deal with,
don't worry about it. Thanks for giving us the heads up.
Continue doing a great job. And that's why this whole
thing has been allowed to perpetuate, because they're simply a
lack of concern coming from the Walls administration and those
employees being told ignore what it is you're seeing until
the problem grew so big that it simply couldn't be
ignored anymore. And by the way, you got an add
(06:13):
ons to that billion, it's billions we're talking confirmed two billion,
but we're looking at upwards of six billion dollars.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
How much is your total budget?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Oh it's Oh, we're weird. We've blown. We've blown, We've
blown plat all of that.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So let me and let me share something with you
that I just found out today, just a little quick nugget.
I was just doing prep for tomorrow's show, so I
haven't had a chance to talk about this on my show.
We had a twelve billion dollar surplus. Going back to
the past couple of years now, Walls had said that
he was going to give that money back to the taxpayer.
By the tune of thousands. We all got like two
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hundred and fifty.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Bucks, and you should be grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That money is gone.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's been completely wiped out. Like we're looking at deficits
now for years to come. And now what we're hearing
is that these deficits that we're dealing with are actually
potentially directly tied to the fraud that you and I
are talking about, because we are just at the tip
of the iceberg of what has been exposed with the
fraud that has been taking place in here in Minnesota.
(07:17):
So it turns out that this fraud may have actually
wiped out that surplus single handedly, which is why that
money's not there anymore, and we're looking at economic disaster
in the next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
No, we're runn by Democrats too, and we're in the
same position. So it's not just the fraud, it's also
the incompetence. John Justice, my guess from Twin City News
Talk in Minneapolis. So the other part of this story
that I find just absolutely incredible is that apparently the
Harris campaign was warned before they chose Tim Walls and
(07:49):
went with him anyway. What a stunning lack of judgment.
But you know, we've all seen what Kamlo is all about,
so it's not that surprising. How did that happen in
your estimation, here's my.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Hot take on that.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That is indicative of the number of individuals that did
not want to join Kamala Harris's team.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I think Walls was the last resort.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I don't think they had a choice.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
She was the only one in the room because he
stopped to get a snack, and they're like, you're it.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
When you go down the list of the potential picks
that she could have had, Yeah, you know Shapiro and
knew some None of those guys, they all knew.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They all knew it was going to be a disaster.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Now, Walls, I mean, he was the equivalent of the
kid on Christmas Morning bouncing down the stairs to the
Christmas tree where he was asked wearing a bunny costume.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
He was wearing a bunny costume at the same time.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And I think that he was I think he was
excited because he was eager at the possibility for as
slim as it might be, that he that they would
actually win and he wouldn't have to be governor of
the state of Minnesota anymore because he knew that this
was coming down the road, the very thing that we're
talking about today, Well, you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Know, to my point about how did this happen? And
I think if you go back and watch the entire
interview with Kristin Welker from Meet the Press, which is
where that soundbed I played at the beginning of this interview,
her first question was not about billions of dollars of fraud.
Her first question was Trump called you a mean name.
How does that make you feel? How does it make
you feel? And if that doesn't clearly demonstrate what the
(09:23):
media is all about. They will never admit that they
got behind a whack a doodle presidential ticket that was
thrust upon the world by some cabal of democratic leadership.
We still don't know, but I just got a text
message on our text line from this said Mandy asked
him about the controversy about the Somali that raped the
twelve year old girl in Minnesota. And I think this
(09:44):
is a two part question because I just shared the
story of a guy who raped two women, pleaded out,
and then raped and kidnapped another woman who appears to
be of Somali ethnicity perhaps or definitely not from here.
But what you're the DA situation, the judge situation.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I mean, you guys have a Soros DA as well.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Oh yeah, no, Hannapen County Attorney Mary Moriarty, she's a
true social justice religious zealot. I mean, this is her
religion for her, and she has perpetuated this revolving door
of criminality.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Through these social justice policies.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Now she's not running for reelection now and she's doubling
She's now doubling down on these policies which keeps putting
these criminals back on the street. You know you mentioned
this individual is getting off. We just had a judge
who had let me back up for just one second.
If you could, just if you could just bear with me,
want to back up for onead. So in the clip
(10:40):
you played, Walls makes the comment of well, you know what,
I'll take credit for putting people behind bars. He has
not put anybody regarding the fraud behind bars. This was
all done by the former US Attorney Joe Thompson. As
a matter of fact, the one individual that was convicted
under Attorney General Keith Ellison here in Minnesota was just
released by an activist judge after a jury convicted them.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And so now people are wanting.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
An investigation, an investigation of this.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Judge because the jury and the jurors.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Have been interviewed and they're going, I have no idea
why this judge would have gone and let these fraudsters off.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We convicted them.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I saw an interview with some of the people on
that jury and they said, this wasn't even close. It
wasn't even like it was like a three hour deliberation,
and everybody was like, guilty, guilty, guilty, And they're stunned
about this. And I do think that those questions need
to be asked, because it certainly looks hinky, as they
say on Scooby Doo. Now, how much of this is
(11:38):
based on the successful deployment of the race card by
Somali immigrants who are being charged for these crimes.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Well, this has been it's a really difficult topic to navigate,
right when you look at the amount of seventy six
percent of the fraud that we have caught and prosecuted
has been perpetuated by the Somali community, But it also
is just a fraction of the Somali community. That being said,
when it comes to stay like autism centers, you have
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families being.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Bought off in order to have their names, the.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Names of their children enrolled in these programs so they
can commit to fraud. So you have this happening within
the community as well. So the fear has always been
that and I think the Walls administration and Democrats here
in Minnesota may have been afraid to actually go after
these fraudsters when this started to erupt, when the funding,
you know, increased, requests you know increased, because they were
(12:37):
worried that they were going to be called racist and
fraud and racist.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So they figured, in.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
My estimation, the gamble was when and if this gets exposed,
it'll be other people that will process it then and
we won't have to take the heat for being called racists.
Those other people will be And this is where we're
at right now. Thankfully with the comments, you know, the
really open and honest comments of Trump even yesterday talking
(13:02):
about Ilhan Omar and the Somali community here in Minnesota.
Whether you like what he said or not, it has
opened up the conversation to continue to be able to
be frank and allow the conversation being honest about this
is being perpetuated by a majority of individuals from the
Somali community, and people have been very, very afraid to
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talk openly about that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And you know, as a host, and I'm a host's.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
These are difficult waters to go and navigate because you
want to talk factually about these issues.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know, in Colorado, we've imported forty thousand Venezuelans they
just walked over the southern border during the Biden administration.
And though many of them are here because their country
sucks and they want to support their family and they
want to work and do the right thing, we also
imported a good chunk of nice criminals who have taken
over apartment buildings and murdered people and broken you know,
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
But it does. I'm so tired of saying, Okay, it's
not everyone, but when you.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Import people from a third world failed society, right, And
that's why Trump says it's a garbage country, it is
a garbage country. There's nothing that works in Somalia. Gay
people are still murdered, there's no functioning government, women don't
have rights they I mean, there's all of these things
that make Somalia a garbage society. But ultimately you're also
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importing some of those cultural issues. How much of that
are you seeing in Minnesota, that clash of.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Cultures, oh, one hundred percent. And that class of cultures
actually is embedded within the Somali community itself. There are
different factions within the Somali community and it may be
one of the reasons why the Somali candidate Omar Fat
lost the mayoral election because after now that the election's
over and Mayor Jacob Fry won re election, the word
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is now that there were there were factions within the
Somali community that were that were against each other this.
Oh really, they could they could not agree. So you're
absolutely right. And let me add something to this, And
you make a great point with the situation that you're
dealing with in Colorado with regard to the Venezuelans, we have,
you know, a large you know, immigrant no population here
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of different you.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Know, ethnicities, different, Yeah, of ethnicities.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
And we're not dealing with this with other groups of
ins We're not dealing with this. You're not seeing this
to be a systemic problem among all immigrants. We're seeing
this being a systemic problem within one particular group, which
speaks to exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, it's fascinating and I don't know if you saw it,
and I don't know if it's true, but holy cow,
from a talk show host perspective, please let it be
true that Mike Lindell jumped into the governor's race in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Is it true?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Is it true?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
We have like fifteen candidates now that have announced their Well,
let me just say.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
This, so and I'm leaning in so I could tell
John this and so no one else can hear it.
Even though I've already talked about it on the air, John,
I had Mike Lindell on my show because my producer Anthony,
who just dropped off the zoom call I might, forced
me to do the interview. Dude's breath. It was like
he ate dead bodies before he sat down with me.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
He has some serious dental issues, so if you're interviewing,
maybe off him a mint right when he comes on, Like, hey,
would you like a mint?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Here's a ticktack? Would you like a tiktak?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I don't think Mike's coming on the show any times.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So that had the opportunity to talk to him in
the past, and you know, listen, he's had a very
you know his background, Oh.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, his life story is fascinating, fascinating.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
He's an incredibly eager guy.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
That being said, he has no business running for office,
and it's unfortunate because people actually go and get.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Behind him, and they really really shouldn't. They really shouldn't.
You know, the guy's had his time and he should
stick with his pillows.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I'm wearing his slippers right now, actually, so he should
stick to making his slippers and his pillows and get
out of politics.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But unfortunately, yes, he did say that he was running through.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
One of my Twitter followers did quote, and I did say,
and I quote.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Don't on Mike Lindell.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Anyway, John, justin Twin Cities News Talk. I appreciate your time, man,
I've just this story's fascinating and I think that this
is probably being replicated in different parts of the country
by immigrants who are not here to do the right
thing and build a better life and take advantage of
the American dream. And we got to get him out.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
John.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I appreciate your time today.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And I still I was thinking about your former co
hosts yesterday.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I still miss that guy.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Still miss him, all right, man, John, I'll talk to
you soon.
Governors don't get to just talk theoretically. We have to
solve problems. And I will note it's not just Somali's.
Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota's a prosperous days, a
well run state or triple A bond rated. But that
attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're doing
everything we can, but to demonize an entire community on
the actions of a few, it's lazy. And as you
(00:21):
heard Senator Kelly say, this president has cut a lot
of inspector generals. He's cut programs that could help us
tackle us on.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So we are we'll take it on.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We'll put folks in jail. I don't care what your
nationality is, I don't care who your religion is, your color,
if you're committing crimes. These are programs that were meant
to serve students with autism, to housing, and to making
sure people had enough to eat. There's a reason Minnesota
ranks as the top lowest childhood poverty, best place for
children to live. People are taking advantage that they're going
(00:52):
to prison. That is totally disconnected with demonizing an entire
group of people who came here fleeing civil war and
created a vibrant community that makes Minnesota in this country better.
But that's Donald Trump deflect demonies, come up with no solutions.
He's not going to help fix anything. On fraud, my god,
there's a big difference between fraud and corruption, and corruption
(01:12):
is something he knows about.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Those are the dulcet tones of Governor Tim Walls from Minnesota.
And my next guest, who I'm looking at right now
on our zoom call, is openly shaking his head and
just you're making a face, John Justice, of what is
it twin City's news Talk. I want to make sure
I get that out. Katoka is the station, an iHeart station.
You can listen online if you want. John, First of all,
(01:34):
welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
That clip you played has gotten quite the workout on
my show this week.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So I laughed out loud when he said that the
reason this was happening is because Trump fired inspector generals.
As if Tim Walls is going to let Trump administration
inspector generals into the state of Minnesota, it is comically stupid.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, well that's our governor actually summed him up perfectly.
He is comically stoopid the country. The country saw.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That firsthand last year.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh yeah, and we were all giddy when he was
tapped to be Kamala Harris's VP, because the rest of
the country got to see what a buffoon this guy is. Unfortunately,
what we're dealing with now with the exposure of fraud
that we've known about for a long time.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That just didn't make it out.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
We all thought it was going to We all thought
this was going to become sort of a centerpiece of
a talking point of walls and he just completely escaped
scrutiny last year up until these past couple of weeks
when the dam has just broken loose in Minnesota is
now the epicenter of the news cycle.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So I asked John off the air, how long people
in Minnesota in media have known about the depth of
this corruption with the welfare system. And we're talking billion
with a B dollars stolen fraudulently, a lot of which
went back to fund Somali warlords.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
How long have you guys known about this?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Well, if you go back to if you start with
feeding our future, you've got to go back at least
four years now. Along with feeding our future, we've had
fraud within the daycare center system and then more recently
the autism centers, health and Human services.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But we've known about.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
This fraud being perpetuated for the for the better part
of four years. It really has just been the dollar
amount that's been growing and changing. And then of course
the reporting by City Journal about a week and a
half ago that went, you know, in depth with those
multiple credible sources saying that Minnesota taxpayers are basically one
of the biggest funders of al Shabab in Somalia.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But we've we've known for years.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So what's fascinating to me about this story. There's a
couple of things. Number One, a lot of this money
is actual federal taxpayer dollars. Let's be real, this is
not isolated. The Minnesota taxpayer is not the only one
footing the bill for this, because a lot of these
were ARPA dollars that were being thrown out out you know,
like like candy at or parade. And one of the
other things that I find fascinating is the employees of
(04:07):
Minnesota's HHS took to Twitter to throw everybody under the bus.
They were like, we're not taking a hit on this
we tried to tell the Walls administration, and not only
did he not help us root out the fraud, he
retaliated against the whistleblowers.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Tell me about that part of this.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Well, what's really interesting about that there's a one account
that's associated with they say about four hundred and eighty
different DHS employees. It's a fraction of the number of
employees within DHS here in Minnesota. They've been blowing the
whistle on this for a long time, but again, just
like what we're talking about now, it just simply has
not gained national attention and barely uplip when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Local news coverage.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
What's interesting about that, though, is I've been receiving phone
calls for the past year and a half from DHS
employees anonymously telling me what those DHS employees are now
getting the attention for when I talk about the fraud
within the autism centers and the other services that mostly
pass under the DFL when they had complete control between.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Twenty three and twenty four here in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
DFL is your Democratic Party, to be clear, because we
don't have DFL here.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
What does DFL actually stand for?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I couldn't remember, so Democrat Farmer Labor.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Okay, So DFL is the Democratic Party in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Continue right, So, and they're not associated with the farmers
at all anymore. Why did they just carry that moniker
as a badge of honor.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So I've had.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Employees, as we talked about the fraud on the show,
tried to further expose it. I've had those employees telling
me John, I work in DHS, we see the red flags,
We saw the massive increase in the requests of funding
that just simply is unnatural. We take it to our
bosses and we get ignored. We say it's being looked at,
we'll take care of it, or they just say, you
(05:51):
know what, it's too big for us to deal with,
don't worry about it. Thanks for giving us the heads up.
Continue doing a great job. And that's why this whole
thing has been allowed to perpetuate, because they're simply a
lack of concern coming from the Walls administration and those
employees being told ignore what it is you're seeing until
the problem grew so big that it simply couldn't be
ignored anymore. And by the way, you got an add
(06:13):
ons to that billion, it's billions we're talking confirmed two billion,
but we're looking at upwards of six billion dollars.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
How much is your total budget?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Oh it's Oh, we're weird. We've blown. We've blown, We've
blown plat all of that.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So let me and let me share something with you
that I just found out today, just a little quick nugget.
I was just doing prep for tomorrow's show, so I
haven't had a chance to talk about this on my show.
We had a twelve billion dollar surplus. Going back to
the past couple of years now, Walls had said that
he was going to give that money back to the taxpayer.
By the tune of thousands. We all got like two
(06:49):
hundred and fifty.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Bucks, and you should be grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That money is gone.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's been completely wiped out. Like we're looking at deficits
now for years to come. And now what we're hearing
is that these deficits that we're dealing with are actually
potentially directly tied to the fraud that you and I
are talking about, because we are just at the tip
of the iceberg of what has been exposed with the
fraud that has been taking place in here in Minnesota.
(07:17):
So it turns out that this fraud may have actually
wiped out that surplus single handedly, which is why that
money's not there anymore, and we're looking at economic disaster
in the next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
No, we're runn by Democrats too, and we're in the
same position. So it's not just the fraud, it's also
the incompetence. John Justice, my guess from Twin City News
Talk in Minneapolis. So the other part of this story
that I find just absolutely incredible is that apparently the
Harris campaign was warned before they chose Tim Walls and
(07:49):
went with him anyway. What a stunning lack of judgment.
But you know, we've all seen what Kamlo is all about,
so it's not that surprising. How did that happen in
your estimation, here's my.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Hot take on that.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That is indicative of the number of individuals that did
not want to join Kamala Harris's team.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I think Walls was the last resort.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I don't think they had a choice.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
She was the only one in the room because he
stopped to get a snack, and they're like, you're it.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
When you go down the list of the potential picks
that she could have had, Yeah, you know Shapiro and
knew some None of those guys, they all knew.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They all knew it was going to be a disaster.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Now, Walls, I mean, he was the equivalent of the
kid on Christmas Morning bouncing down the stairs to the
Christmas tree where he was asked wearing a bunny costume.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
He was wearing a bunny costume at the same time.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And I think that he was I think he was
excited because he was eager at the possibility for as
slim as it might be, that he that they would
actually win and he wouldn't have to be governor of
the state of Minnesota anymore because he knew that this
was coming down the road, the very thing that we're
talking about today, Well, you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Know, to my point about how did this happen? And
I think if you go back and watch the entire
interview with Kristin Welker from Meet the Press, which is
where that soundbed I played at the beginning of this interview,
her first question was not about billions of dollars of fraud.
Her first question was Trump called you a mean name.
How does that make you feel? How does it make
you feel? And if that doesn't clearly demonstrate what the
(09:23):
media is all about. They will never admit that they
got behind a whack a doodle presidential ticket that was
thrust upon the world by some cabal of democratic leadership.
We still don't know, but I just got a text
message on our text line from this said Mandy asked
him about the controversy about the Somali that raped the
twelve year old girl in Minnesota. And I think this
(09:44):
is a two part question because I just shared the
story of a guy who raped two women, pleaded out,
and then raped and kidnapped another woman who appears to
be of Somali ethnicity perhaps or definitely not from here.
But what you're the DA situation, the judge situation.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I mean, you guys have a Soros DA as well.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Oh yeah, no, Hannapen County Attorney Mary Moriarty, she's a
true social justice religious zealot. I mean, this is her
religion for her, and she has perpetuated this revolving door
of criminality.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Through these social justice policies.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Now she's not running for reelection now and she's doubling
She's now doubling down on these policies which keeps putting
these criminals back on the street. You know you mentioned
this individual is getting off. We just had a judge
who had let me back up for just one second.
If you could, just if you could just bear with me,
want to back up for onead. So in the clip
(10:40):
you played, Walls makes the comment of well, you know what,
I'll take credit for putting people behind bars. He has
not put anybody regarding the fraud behind bars. This was
all done by the former US Attorney Joe Thompson. As
a matter of fact, the one individual that was convicted
under Attorney General Keith Ellison here in Minnesota was just
released by an activist judge after a jury convicted them.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And so now people are wanting.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
An investigation, an investigation of this.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Judge because the jury and the jurors.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Have been interviewed and they're going, I have no idea
why this judge would have gone and let these fraudsters off.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We convicted them.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I saw an interview with some of the people on
that jury and they said, this wasn't even close. It
wasn't even like it was like a three hour deliberation,
and everybody was like, guilty, guilty, guilty, And they're stunned
about this. And I do think that those questions need
to be asked, because it certainly looks hinky, as they
say on Scooby Doo. Now, how much of this is
(11:38):
based on the successful deployment of the race card by
Somali immigrants who are being charged for these crimes.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Well, this has been it's a really difficult topic to navigate,
right when you look at the amount of seventy six
percent of the fraud that we have caught and prosecuted
has been perpetuated by the Somali community, But it also
is just a fraction of the Somali community. That being said,
when it comes to stay like autism centers, you have
(12:10):
families being.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Bought off in order to have their names, the.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Names of their children enrolled in these programs so they
can commit to fraud. So you have this happening within
the community as well. So the fear has always been
that and I think the Walls administration and Democrats here
in Minnesota may have been afraid to actually go after
these fraudsters when this started to erupt, when the funding,
you know, increased, requests you know increased, because they were
(12:37):
worried that they were going to be called racist and
fraud and racist.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So they figured, in.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
My estimation, the gamble was when and if this gets exposed,
it'll be other people that will process it then and
we won't have to take the heat for being called racists.
Those other people will be And this is where we're
at right now. Thankfully with the comments, you know, the
really open and honest comments of Trump even yesterday talking
(13:02):
about Ilhan Omar and the Somali community here in Minnesota.
Whether you like what he said or not, it has
opened up the conversation to continue to be able to
be frank and allow the conversation being honest about this
is being perpetuated by a majority of individuals from the
Somali community, and people have been very, very afraid to
(13:24):
talk openly about that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And you know, as a host, and I'm a host's.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
These are difficult waters to go and navigate because you
want to talk factually about these issues.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know, in Colorado, we've imported forty thousand Venezuelans they
just walked over the southern border during the Biden administration.
And though many of them are here because their country
sucks and they want to support their family and they
want to work and do the right thing, we also
imported a good chunk of nice criminals who have taken
over apartment buildings and murdered people and broken you know,
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
But it does. I'm so tired of saying, Okay, it's
not everyone, but when you.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Import people from a third world failed society, right, And
that's why Trump says it's a garbage country, it is
a garbage country. There's nothing that works in Somalia. Gay
people are still murdered, there's no functioning government, women don't
have rights they I mean, there's all of these things
that make Somalia a garbage society. But ultimately you're also
(14:16):
importing some of those cultural issues. How much of that
are you seeing in Minnesota, that clash of.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Cultures, oh, one hundred percent. And that class of cultures
actually is embedded within the Somali community itself. There are
different factions within the Somali community and it may be
one of the reasons why the Somali candidate Omar Fat
lost the mayoral election because after now that the election's
over and Mayor Jacob Fry won re election, the word
(14:45):
is now that there were there were factions within the
Somali community that were that were against each other this.
Oh really, they could they could not agree. So you're
absolutely right. And let me add something to this, And
you make a great point with the situation that you're
dealing with in Colorado with regard to the Venezuelans, we have,
you know, a large you know, immigrant no population here
(15:06):
of different you.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Know, ethnicities, different, Yeah, of ethnicities.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
And we're not dealing with this with other groups of
ins We're not dealing with this. You're not seeing this
to be a systemic problem among all immigrants. We're seeing
this being a systemic problem within one particular group, which
speaks to exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, it's fascinating and I don't know if you saw it,
and I don't know if it's true, but holy cow,
from a talk show host perspective, please let it be
true that Mike Lindell jumped into the governor's race in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Is it true?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Is it true?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
We have like fifteen candidates now that have announced their Well,
let me just say.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
This, so and I'm leaning in so I could tell
John this and so no one else can hear it.
Even though I've already talked about it on the air, John,
I had Mike Lindell on my show because my producer Anthony,
who just dropped off the zoom call I might, forced
me to do the interview. Dude's breath. It was like
he ate dead bodies before he sat down with me.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
He has some serious dental issues, so if you're interviewing,
maybe off him a mint right when he comes on, Like, hey,
would you like a mint?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Here's a ticktack? Would you like a tiktak?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I don't think Mike's coming on the show any times.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So that had the opportunity to talk to him in
the past, and you know, listen, he's had a very
you know his background, Oh.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, his life story is fascinating, fascinating.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
He's an incredibly eager guy.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
That being said, he has no business running for office,
and it's unfortunate because people actually go and get.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Behind him, and they really really shouldn't. They really shouldn't.
You know, the guy's had his time and he should
stick with his pillows.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I'm wearing his slippers right now, actually, so he should
stick to making his slippers and his pillows and get
out of politics.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But unfortunately, yes, he did say that he was running through.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
One of my Twitter followers did quote, and I did say,
and I quote.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Don't on Mike Lindell.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Anyway, John, justin Twin Cities News Talk. I appreciate your time, man,
I've just this story's fascinating and I think that this
is probably being replicated in different parts of the country
by immigrants who are not here to do the right
thing and build a better life and take advantage of
the American dream. And we got to get him out.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
John.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I appreciate your time today.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And I still I was thinking about your former co
hosts yesterday.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I still miss that guy.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Still miss him, all right, man, John, I'll talk to
you soon.
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