12-16-25 FULL SHOW - An Amazing Story of Recovery and Success

An amazing story of recovery and success, great Christmas ideas for you, and Australia takes the wrong approach.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

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And Dona.

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Kama got play say and then through Ray Many Connelly
sad thing, welcome local, Well, thank.

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You, and the what is today Tuesday edition of the show.
I'm your host for the next three hours. Mandy Connall, joined,
of course by Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
He is my right hand man. You can call a
rod Hey, hop out.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Those Broncos still celebrate in the big win Sunday. I'll
take that all day long. It was funny watching Ryan
Edwards jump visibly jump yesterday. What was Oh was that Ryan?
Or was that Grant who played yesterday?

Speaker 6 (00:57):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (00:57):
That was great? It was Grant.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
You're right startled in with the horse boy. Do we
have a lot to talk about it? Just before the
shoe drama already in the GOP Governor's race. We're gonna
talk to Ryan Schuling about a Gangbuster interview he did
this morning. But uh wait, hang on one second, hang on,

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one second, show. No, no, Joe, the wrong date wrong,
the wrong date is on. I just fixed it. Let's
do this. For some reason, the blog is not showing
and Joe, who is a faithful email er, not always
sends me really good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
At the same time, it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Mandy, it's not a it is up Joe, if your
faithful host had done a better job at putting the
date on it, look for the crumpled up bicycle photograph
when you go that that's today's blog. I apologize it
has been fixed. But for some reason, even though everything
else in the Internet is whiz bang and can happen instantaneously,
any updates to the blog could or could not post immediately.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
It really depends on how my computer's feeling, how your
computer's feeling. On winter will actually get done. Have you
noticed this a rod? Yeah? Sure, hanging me out to dry.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Just no, I'm dead serious at least.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Nope, it's not. I imagine you're serious. Just for you,
I'm real serious.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Now, let's go to the blog, which now says I
don't call me surely Now it says.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Twelve sixteen twenty.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, first you have to go to mandy'sblog dot com,
and then you look for the latest posts, and then
you look today, look for the picture of the mangled bicycle,
and then it should say twelve sixteen twenty five blog
an amazing story of recovery and success. Click on that
and then here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Nancy expects better half of American.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Today on the blog Wait until you hear Nathan's story.
What to get those hard to buy four people? And
buy people? I mean me pop the popcorn GOP governor's
race is already hot. Australia restricts the wrong fi want
to go to a Broncos playoff game? Why can't people
drive in Windsor? The pro progressive income tax is a scam.

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Denver City Council virtue signals better than any other city council.
Aurora activist will destroy that city. A proud immigrant takes
on ilhan Omar. Millennials really got screwed by DEI timed
buy a generator? Luke Spencer died Oreo lovers, I got
some for you. Did you see it? How living in

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the moment can help your relationship? Not so good news
about medical marijuana. Cubans are facing a medical perfect storm.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
This is my algorithm. Now Ford kills.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
A bunch of evs. A Rod has a new show
for you to watch. MTG is right. This seems like
some sort of sign. James Wood talks Rob Reiner. I
want my money's worth. Chuck won't let me take it down.
Click on those headlines. Wait, those are the headlines in
the blog, and those thank you. Those are the headlines

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in the blog and Mandy's blog dot com.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Whatever. It's fine. Yeah, I'm okay with that, man, I'm
okay with that. It's fine. I had a lot of
stuff going on this morning. You know, Nancy's judge. It's fine.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
So at the very bottom of the blog is the
photograph of our Christmas tree.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Did you see this? Marvelous?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I got to tell you, Chuck won't take it down.
We didn't unpack all of our Christmas decorations. We just
did minor decorating this year. The outside of my house
looks spectacular, thank you for lightscapes, the inside a little beer.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
So we put up our Christmas tree this last weekend.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
We couldn't find Father Christmas, who normally sits atop the tree,
and so instead of Father Christmas, we have this photograph
of me on a stick. Don't ask, and Chuck put
it on the top of the tree. And now we
won't take it down.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
No, we're asking because the listeners want that fat head. No,
we're not doing the fat heads either.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
The last thing I need is my wrinkles amplified, right Like,
No nobody over the age of like thirty five really
wants to see their face up made into a fatheads. No, no, no,
not all by along by a by a big margin.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Not all margin wanted it.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
There was like ten people that wanted a fat head
of that. No, but I thought it'd be funny. So
I'm showing you what my Christmas tree looks like right now. Yep,
it's uh, it's it's a it's a bit of.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
A problem in our household. So today we've.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Got a couple of guests coming in. One I'm very
excited to meet him. How does Nathan say his last
month Barcosi? That's what I thought, but I wanted to check.
Nathan Barcosi was a sixteen year old extremely competitive cyclist
top ten in the nation for competitive road cycling when
he was hit by a car and the story of

(05:49):
what happened next and his recovery since then has just
been absolutely amazing. And I love a good comeback story.
So he's coming in, he's coming in, or he's a
zoom zo. Okay, So we're gonna talk to Nathan at
one o'clock give you a little inspiration. And then at
one thirty I just confirmed it with my colleague Ryan
Schuling down the hall at KHOW. He will soon be

(06:11):
taking over full well he's doing it now, but he'll
full soon be full time taking over morning drive at
k HOW. And when you hear about his interview with
Victor Marx, you'll understand why apparently.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
And we're gonna talk to Ryan about.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
This at about one thirty, and I put a link
to the interview if you want to listen to the
thing in its entirety. In the interview, he said that
Representative Scott Bottoms, who is also running for governor, had
asked him to be his lieutenant governor, a thing that
Representative Scott Bottoms has said flatly did not happen, just

(06:47):
did not happen. So we're gonna talk to Ryan about
the interview and a little bit later in the show today,
I am struggling.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Struggling is the word to.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Understand why so many people that I love and respect
in the conservative movement have immediately glommed on to be
Victor Mark supporters.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Right now, sitting from the outside looking in, I don't
think there's a lot of There there a lot of
big hat, no cattle situation, and when it comes to
policy and what we're going to do to work with
what's likely to remain a democratic legislature, there's not a
lot of And don't don't get me wrong. I don't

(07:32):
expect candidates to walk into any situation and say, oh,
here's my bill for this, here's my bill for this,
here's my that's not realistic, and.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
I don't want that. But I'm not kidding enough on.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
The guiding principles along with and how do we get
this done with a democratic legislature? And I'm just going
to be frank, one of my biggest questions to ask
in this state is when I hear a Republican talking
about how they're gonna go and they're going to change everything,
my question is, how do you do it when Democrats
have practically a super majority?

Speaker 6 (08:05):
And so.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
That is an important question because you can say.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Whatever you want to say, but if there's a zero
percent chance you can actually enact that.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Then it's just words, right, It's just it's just words.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
So later in the show, I'd like to hear from you,
Victor Marx supporters, and again we will. We'll bring this
back full circle later. I would love to know what
brought you to Victor Marx and why you feel the
way you do. So I know that, as I said,
there's a lot of people that I have a great

(08:42):
deal of respect for that love Victor, and I just
am not seeing it. I've been at this watching politics
game for a very long time, and I have now
seen the candidates roll through.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
My studio, roll through the waves, roll.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Through these you know, elections, and I've seen candidates very
similar to Victor Mark, some of whom I have.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Supported in the past.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
And now I'm very much fool me once, you know,
shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. So
my level of skepticism is very high, very high, and
I trust my gut and right now I don't have
a reason not to trust it on Victor Marx, and

(09:32):
my gut is looking at this again from the outside
looking in. I've seen the videos on social media. I'm
aware of his story, I'm aware of all of it,
but none of that for me, is enough to sort
of counterbalance the way he is navigating this campaign, and

(09:54):
you know, the first which is probably going to be
a good size, sizable debate. I'm sure that we're going
to tape it so we can put it on the
internet after the fact. I'm sure all that's gonna happen.
He just declined, flat out declined. Initially said, I have
a conflict.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
We get that.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Where can we move it to accommodate you? And he
basically was like, yeah, I'm not coming. And I don't
understand that, and I don't trust that he's either too
insulated in Colorado's springs and thinks that maybe his inner
circle is telling him that he doesn't need the campaign
at the rest of the state.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
But there's a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Of Republicans who live up in Welld County, and I'm
guessing that if you don't win Weld County, it's really
hard to win a Republican nomination to anything.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
It's just so we'll get into that a little bit later.
That is coming up now, Anthony. I've been promising it
for wits and this morning I finally delivered, and I
peared things down quite dramatically. What I was gonna do
is I was like, you know what, if you have
people that you have no idea what to buy for,
I'm gonna tell you things that I would like, things.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
That other people that I know would like.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
I don't want to share some of these with you,
And then if you have any suggestions, you can add
to the list and I will find a link. Because
everything that I listed here I have a link to
buy it, I am not and I do not have
an affiliate link. I am making zero dollars if you
purchase any of this stuff.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
And although I have a relationship with.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
A relationship, meaning I have used these products in the past,
not for all of them. Okay, So if you like
one of these ideas, but you see a company that
you like better that doesn't, then I have no vested
interest in whether or not you do or don't buy
any of these products. I just want that very very clear.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
The only reason I did this is, you know what,
and my daughter just posted something about this on our
social She was like, you know, you google gifts for dad,
and if your dad doesn't play golf, barbecue, or is
an alcoholic, there's very little in the way of suggestions.
So some of these suggestions are for you guys, if
you're looking for something for your wife or your girlfriend,

(12:05):
and then some of these suggestions are for you ladies.
If you've run out of stuff to buy your husband,
maybe one of these things would tickle his fancy. And
I'm going to tell you the most surprising one. A roan,
I want to ask your opinion about one.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Of these gifts.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
One of these gift ideas a battery storage case. It's
a little organizer for all your batteries. You got space
for your C batteries, you got space for your d's,
your single as, your triple a's whatever. We don't have
single as, we have double as and triple as. My
mom got this for Chuck like four years ago, and
you would have thought that she gave him the winning

(12:38):
lottery ticket. He loves this battery organizer. I mean, honestly,
it was just like, ah, this is the greatest thing ever,
greatest thing ever. Eh Well, you're not old enough to
have that on a battery selection, I guess you would
think that, but still, eh m, it was great. So

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here's what I got on the list so far. Okay,
these are in no particular order. Some of them are
very expensive, some of them are not expensive. I kind
of ran the Gamut number one metaglasses. Have you seen
these things?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
The Beta Q is three forty nine. You can get
Beta one for two forty nine.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Zy. Oh yeah, Well they'll come down very very quickly.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
But I want them because you can say live translate
and the speakers are right next to your ears, so
nobody else can hear it, and it will live translate
anything that's being said to you in your ears.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
How you respond, I have earbuds that do that.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
We The earbuds that we found are not great, especially
if you're in a loud, crowded area.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
They're not great.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
They don't separate out the one voice from the others,
and allegedly the metaglasses do a better better chobe.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Are they compatible with iPhone?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I do not know the answer to that question. I'm
sure they are. I don't know why they wouldn't be.
Only Apple is is of like jerks who don't make
their stuff compatible with other people. They're elitist. Battery Daddy
Hell's yeah, says this texture.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
They are in d in compatible.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Mandy, That battery thing is dumb, lame. I'm telling you,
my husband loved it, loved it.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
This extra wouldn't mind my fancy being tickled. I'm in
for you. They have Oakley Meta Glass. Oh yeah, hey
Ron four seconds ago. They're too expensive.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Wait they have the ray Man ones. Oh yeah, no,
I'm in. I'm in ull take hilarious, I'll take them.
Yeah yeah, yeah, well they're on the list. And then
there's heated gloves. I think in our climate, heated gloves.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
They actually have gloves that you plug in, so when
you're out there doing snow, move in your snow, you
can plug in your goes bam, bam, you heat them
up your hands stay warm.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Those aren't even that expensive. Have you gotten this whole
list for me yet? Because I'll take it home. We'll see.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
It's a good list, like this is a solid list.
Vacuum travel bags. You can take these plastic blags. They
come with The one that I have comes with an
electronic pump. It pumps all the air out of your stuff,
so you can pack more and not have to necessarily
even check a bag. You can pack more and a
carry on size bag because you can take the air out.

(15:18):
They're fantastic.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Actually no, yeah, probably probably wouldn't want to or can't
bring the pump on the way back or can you Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
You can, you can do. It's a little battery operated thing.
It's no harm, no foul this one. Cooking classes, now, people,
before you make fun. If you don't like to cook,
cooking classes are super fun cause you're learning something new,
you're working with your hands.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
You know it's gonna come out good.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
And guys, I'm just gonna say this, if you're looking
for a gift, that not only is a great gift,
but also when you give it to her she opens it,
she's like, oh wow, cooking class. And you look at
her and said, I thought we could do it together.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Here is my contribution. You can put it on the list.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Okay, if someone already is a good cook or that
doesn't interest them. Really fun a bartending class, oh either way?

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yes, do we have one locally here?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
No.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I went to like a marketing event ironically where I
met today's guest Nathan and there's so much fun.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Well, I'll find one of those and add it to
the list. There we go right to the next one.
Great knives. So I'm very disappointed the Japanese family that
I bought my Japanese knife from their website will not work.
So I went to Amazon and oh no, I didn't
put the link on there. I'll find it. Sure, Japanese
knives are next level. They are incredible. I don't know

(16:37):
what it is. You know why because they used to
make swords and that's how all their knives are based.
I will fix that link. Then cutting board, what none
of the links came through?

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Oh no, what here we go. Oh Amanda, you're so stupid.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
If you ever wanted to know how stupid your host
can be, let me just oh you, how stupid your
host can be. Anthony, all of the actual gifts, that's
the hyperlink to buy them.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
I forgot I did that.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Anyway, great knives, you can click on the link. I
found some Japanese knives on Amazon outstanding. I don't know
what it is. They're just incredible. And then I know
this sounds kind of cheesy, but if you have a
cook in your life, cutting boards get to a point
in their lifespan where they need to be replaced.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, microplastics in our foods.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
I'm actually replacing all of my microplastic cutting boards because.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
They do they're not good for you.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
And they actually have some really beautiful cutting boards that
you can leave on your counter and a little holder
that are gorgeous. I link to those a craft brewing kit.
Now you might think to yourself, I'm not a big
beer drinker, but if you have kids, this is a
great chemistry experiment in.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
A cocktail making kit. There you go. Have you seen?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
And I think it's not fair game? But they have
the new device where it's basically the size of a
oh my gosh, where you put cups on a table, uh,
a little old.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Well like an end table.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
No, the little thing you put to not leave to
not leave stains on a table with the drink coaster
a coaster, Yeah, is the shape of a coaster. It's
a little thing that will tell you when to stop
putting certain amount of ingredients to make a perfect drink.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
So you put a cup on it. That's cool. Can
you start to pour? You tell it what drink to do.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
You start to pour, and it'll like light up green
when when you stop.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
So it's like a measuring device. Rand new kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Also kind of not fair because it kind of eliminates
the art of box ending.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
I just want to know.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I had no idea how polarizing battery organizers were but
a war has erupted on the text line you either
love it or do you hate it. I'll continue with
the list and tell you some of these very funny
text about battery organizers when we get back. During the break,
I was listening to Victor Marx's interview with Ryan Schuling
this morning. We're gonna talk to Ryan about it at one.

(19:00):
But that was the first time I got to listen
to the extended version. I'd heard a little snippet earlier,
but oh, we'll get back to that later. I got
to finish my list of gift giving ideas, and I
think I've done a bang up job, you guys. I
had no idea how polarizing battery organizers are. My mom
got my husband a battery organizer like two years ago,

(19:22):
and I swear to you, he loves that thing so much.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
We use it all the time.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
And yet some of you don't see the way, Mandy
the battery thing is dumb lame.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Then there's this Mandy battery daddy.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Hell's yeah, Mandy, I'm sixty three years old and the
battery organizer does nothing for me. This texter says, why
have a battery case when you can spend ten minutes
rummaging through a junk drawer. Mandy, Wait a minute, Mandy,

(20:00):
does the battery thing come with batteries included?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Some do, but they're not good batteries, does it. Yeah,
it doesn't even come with any batteries. Right, No, it
doesn't look at it. You don't want to is I'm
now looking at it?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Remember how I yet how dumb this was? Yeah, yeah,
it's more dumb than I thought because.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
You have to physically put each individual battery into the storage.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
But when you go to Costco, when you go to
Costco and buy the batteries in bulk, as we do, yeah,
then it's very convenient.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's not because on Amazon, where I get my batteries,
they literally come like in a storage.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Box kind of. They're cabery Costco, but.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
They come in a storage box kind of. And this
is dumb this way all batteries. I guarantee everyone who
thinks it's dumb hasn't looked at it. Well, think it's
more dumb. And those that like the idea, we'll look
at it and go never mind.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, then there's these people.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Mandy, A solid yes to the battery organizer my wife
bought me, Mandy, love the battery call truck right now,
Call him right now.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Get him on the phone. I don't need him to
side get him on the phone. I'm not doing I love.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
My battery daddy. No more searching for batteries and bags
and drawers, Mandy. I have the battery organizer and I
love it. Got it from Costco. This I mean, I
guess the list need something bad. Yep, No, it's awesome. Anyway,
moving on battery storage case awesome. And then of course
there is the Bow Massage gift certificate, which is really

(21:22):
the best. Exactly did you, guys ever use the couple's
massage that he gave you as a wedding gift? Okay, fantastic,
Okay good. I didn't put the story on the blog today,
but there are two spas in Colorado that were they
were chosen to be among the best spaws in the country.
So I went to their websites and looked at their pricing.

(21:44):
If you want to pay twice, why you pay at boussage.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
You can do that. It's fine.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I also have concrete garage floor coating. If you have
a guy who has everything, that's a good gift. Now,
here's one for the truck drivers, not big semi trucks,
people who have flatbed trucks, a stretch stretchy cargo net.
That way, you don't have to have fourteen thousand ratchet straps.
But then if you don't have the ratchet straps, you
don't get to snap the ratchets strap and go. That's

(22:09):
not going anywhere, which we all know has to happen.
And then, thanks to a listener who emailed me about
it this morning, the Adam Popper popcorn maker is always
the perfect gift, always, Mandy, what kind of simpleton is
excited about a battery organizer? The man who has everything

(22:29):
except a battery organizer?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Thanks, I just checked it and got them, thanks to
go Way.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I I don't know about that. Uh yes, ma'am. I
wait what I believe? Oh I Mandy, battery daddy sounds
like we're talking about sex robots again.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
It kind of does, Mandy. We have a battery organizer now,
I'm obsessed with it.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
I'm constantly buying new batteries to make sure it's full
and organized all the time.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
I probably need a new hobby.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Let me be clear, I am very much in my
phase of life with something like this would excite me.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
This one is just dumb. No, you're not old enough,
I think.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yah, I promise you those kinds of things I have
now acknowledged and accepted.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Wow, that is awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
But this having to put the individual batteries and each
individual slot is the dumbest part about this.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I I will say this that once you have kids
and you have five thousand toys that all need batteries,
and not just double a's. You've got to have double a's,
you gotta have nine volt, you gotta have c you
gotta have all of them. You gotta have them all
at your disposal. Then you start to want a battery organize.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
The concept I hear you is great, but you keep.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Having to restock this thing every time you buy more batteries. Yeah,
so this thing defeats any purpose of usefulness because you
have to keep restocking it each individual battery.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
People.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
For those that are saying you like it, go look
at the pictures of it on Amazon. You have to
individually restock one battery at a time.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
You have to do it first time, and then you
only do it when you get down to eight. Like
when you get down to eight batteries. Then you're you
have to go like, there's a better way. I am
all for the ideas a way a battery storage. I'm
just saying this, ain't it?

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (24:12):
The text client disagrees with you. But by the way,
you guys, these are all just suggestions. They're just suggestions.
Are the other ways you're lame and you can't think
of anything for your sweetie? Uh And you do not
have to buy any of them from Amazon. I simply
did that for simplicity's sake. And again I'm not an affiliate.
I have zero financial stake in whether or not any

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of these items get purchased.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I am going to add on to this with a
concept my mom has adopted this year.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
What's the first ever time, because I'm looking at it
right now.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
We are doing a needs list, not a Christmas list
for gifting this year, sure, which means you put your
everyday things, things that you just always need something of,
maybe not a want. You put those on the list. Sure,
So like I'm putting sugar free red bull I'm always drinking.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
It's on the list. But I also wrote.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
On there we kind of have our needs covered, mother,
so we kind of like the wants still but on
bear list. My parents' list, uh coke zero, some chips,
dark chocolate, Italian dressing like like needs versus a wants list,
because they say they.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Have to go to the chocolate therapists and buy that
dark chocolate and take care of it right. Mandy can't
imagine how much money ay Rod wasted on batteries because
his batteries are so disorganized.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
They're not they are exactly I know exactly where they are,
I know exactly what they're in. They are already perfectly
stored in the boxes they can in.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Okay, this person said, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
The battery thing could be useful, but something you just
buy for yourself and not really a fun gift. Okay,
let me explain to you, guys gift giving in my household.
One Valentine's Day, my husband says to me as he
hands me the box, this is either the best Valentine's
gift or the worst Valentine's gift in history.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
I open it up. It's a crossbow ding ding.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Ding Chicken Winter Winter Winter Chicken Ditter. Best Valentine's nothing
says you should be able to protect yourself in the
apocalypse more than a crossbow and that is love, my friends,
that is long term love thinking. And then there was
a Christmas gift where I gave my husband is Christmas
gift and I said to him, this is either the
best Christmas gift or the worst Christmas gift you're ever

(26:17):
going to get. And I gave him a Navage nasal
ren system. And you know what best Christmas gift ever
until my mom gave him the battery organizer. My husband
and I are living in that part of our lives
when we are very blessed in that if we see.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Something we want, we buy it, we buy it.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
So it's like me trying to tell the kids what
to buy for their dad, like give them ideas for
what It's all utilitarian. Every bit of it is utilitarian
because we don't need the crazy stuff. Like if you
want to buy us a trip to Portugal, that would
be amazing, But if your budget isn't quite that big,
here's something very useful that I just haven't purchased for myself.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
That's where we're at with giving my parents' gifts. Yep.
And I still don't listen to my mom every year.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I still find a way to get them something that
is special that isn't utilitarian too much.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
I'll still get those things because it's on their list
and they want them.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
But Mommy, for listening, you're gonna get something that's not
on the list that you're still gonna love, and you're
gonna take it.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Mandy, there are those that embrace organization and those that
thrive in chaos.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
The battery organizer is the bass.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I am an organizational crazy person.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
This just is a miss Nope, I'm telling you it's fantastic. Mandy.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Tell the sixty three year old curmudgeon that didn't like
the battery daddy that there's a spot for hearing aid batteries.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Now, that's not nice. We're gonna take a quick time out.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
You can find all of these suggestions, by the way,
on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Check them out when we get back.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Australia reacts to the Hankkah massacre and they're banning the
wrong thing. The battery storage system still on fire. On
the text line, I'm just saying why Yogi has four
battery daddies.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Four of them. It takes four seconds. Come on, come on,
each individual battery one at a time.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Moving on, we've got to talk about Australia's response to
the Bondi Beach massacre. First of all, I have to
give Australia a credit that came out pretty immediately and
said that the inspiration for this attack was ISIS, a
terrorist attack inspired by the Islamic State. Apparently they found

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an ISIS flag in the guy's car. One of course,
one of the perpetrators was killed the day of his son,
who I hope suffers long and completely remains in the hospital.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Australia immediately moves.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
To make gun restrictions, which are already some of the
tightest in the western world. New laws are going to
tighten access to firearms in the nation in a way
not seen since the nineteen ninety six Tasmania shooting which
left thirty five people dead. So there are going to
be new firearm restrictions governing how many guns an owner

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can obtain, as well as reviewing existing license holders regularly.
And they said the government is prepared to take whatever
action is necessary included and that is the need for
tougher gun laws. People's circumstances can change, people can be
radicalized over a period of time. Licenses should not be

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in perpetuity, so they're going after the weapon. But is
there any doubt that if guns were not available in
Australia that this father and son duo would have used
a vehicle, because.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
This is what they're planning in Europe.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
By the way, they just foiled another plot I mentioned yesterday,
they foiled a plot.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
I won't bore you with the details.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Of the perpetrators because you already know where they came.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
From and what their ideology was.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
They were planning on using trucks to drive into Christmas
markets to just mow down as many people celebrating Christmas
as they could. Now, if you guys have never been
to a European Christmas market, they're very tight quarters. There's
probably like in the middle of the Christmas market if okay,
I'm five to ten, so I would say there's probably

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ten feet between the front of one booth and the
other booth, and there's rows of those booths that are.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
You know, one after the other.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
So if you got a truck and you just gunned
it and you just started going down one of those rows,
you could kill a lot of people very quickly, well
over one hundred, very very quickly. Because they're trapped. They're
just trapped. They're sitting ducks. So there's no doubt in
my mind that the ideology that inspired these attacks would

(30:58):
would have absolutely led them to a different conclusion, which is,
get in a car and just mow people down as
fast as you can. And this is not a crazy
thing to assume. It's been done multiple times over and over.
What we in the Western world, the people that believe
in free speech and the freedom of religion and all

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of those things that underpin our entire society, we have
to recognize those things are now being used against us.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
When you say you should not be.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Able to say something like globalize the Intravada, which I
said yesterday, and I stand by this, those words are
an incitement to violence.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Whether you want them to be or not, whether.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
You believe that someone will actually listen, they are an
incitement of violence because they have incited violence. It's not
something we can speculate about now we know. But here,
in a free society where free speech reigns supreme, should
protesters prohibited from saying globalize the intevada? How do we
wrestle with these These are really big issues, but they're

(31:59):
also issues of sort of existential survival. I mean, you know,
we we have to figure this out or are tolerance
will lead us to a place of such intolerance for
the things that we hold dear and we won't. It
will be too late at that point. We have to

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figure it out. I don't have an answer. I really
don't yesterday. It's been a lot of time looking at
you know, people that are far smarter than I am,
who have been working on these Nobody seems to have
a good answer. But we better figure it out or
we are going to be in big, fat, hairy trouble.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Australia clearly hasn't figured it out.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
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Speaker 2 (32:44):
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
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Speaker 4 (33:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connell, joined by Anthony Rodriguez you
can call him a rod.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Together.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
We'll take you right up until three p m. When
KOA Sports will take over from there. Joining me now
is a guy who, I mean some of you cyclists
in our listening audience may remember. He was an incredibly
successful sixteen year old cyclist in New Mexico. I believe
cyclist of the Year even when he suffered a devastating accident.

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But Nathan Marcosi was not one to keep that let
that keep him down, and his story of recovery is
simply astounding.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
So welcome to the show, Nathan.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
You know what, We've had a few weeks of rough news, right,
so I'm ready.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
I'm ready for good stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
I'm ready to hear about how you suffered a tremendous
accident but still managed to turn it into something good.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
First of all, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
And Mandy, thank you so much for having me. It's
an honor to be with you right now. And yeah,
I would love to bring a little bit of light
to the world. Right There's there's always you know, you
hear you hear all of the negatives all the time.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
That's how our world keeps revolving.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
But it's really fun to be able to bring some
light to the world and give people some positivity and
some courage and some joy. And so I'm excited to
dive into this with you, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
So let's talk about you were a highly competitive athlete.
Were you always wired that way did you fall in
love with cycling?

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Tell me a little bit about that story. Yeah, great question.

Speaker 7 (34:36):
So I've been an athlete since day one of my life. Right,
I was always very very active. And it's funny. I
have two boys, and they're both very active as young
little kids. And my mom told me, Nathan, I've only
seen kids this active when you were a child, right,
And so it is, it's really fun I've been incredibly active.

(35:01):
I've always loved to be outdoors doing any sport that
I could growing up, right, And I did them all.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
You know.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
I did basketball, I did I did tennis, which wasn't
my favorite. I did swimming, I did cross country, I
did triathlons, baseball, and and my mom was a pet
and so she never let me do football, but of
course I was. I was doing all of the long
distance sports in particular, and she was she was a

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big motivation behind that.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
You know.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
She was always run in the mornings with her best
friends and she was training for a marathon.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
And that that inspired me.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
You know, to have my mom getting up early every
morning to run with her friends when it was still dark. Right,
that's an inspiration to a young child, right, that has
a very ambitious athletic desire, right, And so since the beginning, yes,
I've been very athletic and wanting to pursue a life,
a life with athletics, a life that is outdoors and

(36:01):
always active, right, And that's where we began my career
as a cyclist.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
So I'm sure we can dive into that.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
It sounds like your mom was trying to wear you
out right in every sport it was possible, But what
was it about cycling? Were you just naturally gifted in
that sport or did you develop a passion for it?

Speaker 7 (36:21):
Well, this is a combos and now we're bringing in
my dad. So my dad was he was a big
mountain biker, right. He loved to ride on mountain biking
trails and he had quite a few mountain bikes sitting
on our garage.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
And so he taught me how to ride my bike.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
And I was born and raised riding a bike, but
never truly pursuing competition, right, just riding for fun. And
then while I was in middle school, I went to
a charter school down in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And at
that charter school, there weren't at the time that I
was there, there weren't any established sports that were you know,

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team sports, right, so it was traditional basketball, football, whatever
the case may be. So what I did, what I
did pursue was the triathlon team. So I really pursued running.
And I loved the cross country team. I loved getting
up early every morning and running on the boski and
seeing the beautiful skies of New Mexico each morning. And

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I loved the cross country team, and I loved my
cross country coach. He of course was also the coach
of the triathlon team as a whole. So one day
I was running at cross country practice and he asked me, Nathan,
do you want to try doing competitive cycling?

Speaker 5 (37:36):
You want to give it a swing?

Speaker 7 (37:37):
And so I thought me and maybe we should, right,
maybe I should try it out.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
So this was big because.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
I also was playing baseball when I was a kid,
and I played a lot of baseball, and so this
was around seventh grade and I had to decide between
baseball and cycling, and that was a big decision for me.
But I decided to pursue cycling, and and it was
a good thing that I did because my first race

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ever was the New Mexico State time Trial, right, So
not even a race that you you can leverage your teammates.
It is just you against the clock and the fastest
legs win. Right, And I won state champion for my
age group on my first race.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
So I thought, you know what, I might stick with this. Right,
this might be for me.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
I might have found my niche here that that's so
obviously you it suited you.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
Yeah, absolutely, and I fell in love with it very quickly.
The freedom on a bike, as I'm sure a large
majority of your audience can attest to, right, the freedom
that you feel on a bike. You just you can
ride forever, and you're out in the open, right, You're
out in the free air, and it is a beauty
being on the bike, riding in that saddle is just

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a beauty that you can't compare.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Well, I want to jump ahead because not only did
you win your first race, you won many races. You
became you were the cyclist of the year. You're sixteen
years old. You're out on a road, you know, road
ride one day. Tell me about the accident that changed
your life.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Yeah, well, this is it is really I mean, it's
a devastating story, but it also has so much life.
You know, towards what now that we are in today, right,
And so it did all begin that way, right.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I was.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
I was the state champion in New Mexico. I was
the road race leader for my category in New Mexico.
I still hold the title to be the youngest to
ever win the Tour of the Hila, which is based
out of Silver City, New Mexico, for the category I
was racing in as a sixteen year old, I got
some soft commitments from UHC development team, and I was

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setting my eyes on the Olympics, on the Tour de France,
going to race for Canondale, being sponsored by Canondale, and
going to race internationally. That's where my that's where my
vision was set. And then in January of twenty sixteen,
I was training with my coach and my teammate and
we were training for this next year's Tour of the Hila,

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and I had upgraded a category, so I was racing
now against semi professionals a higher category.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Right. And while we were training.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
While we were on this ride, we were riding from
Albuquerque down to.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
The lin I believe, and it was it was.

Speaker 7 (40:24):
On this long stretch of road where cyclists were permitted
to ride. There was a cycling lane right, and there
was a distracted driver who was driving at sixty miles
an hour who for some reason miscalculated where we were
on the road and he hit me. Hit sixty miles
an hour, flying one hundred feet and sprawled out on

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the ground. So my body hit the windshield of the car,
and there's pictures of that. You can see where my
shoulder hit and my really my hip hit and you
can see the print of my body on the windshield
that shot me forward, like I said, about one hundred feet. Immediately,
I was in a coma. So I don't remember this whatsoever.
This is me just conveying to you what I've been told.

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My coach, you know, scrambled to my side and I
was unresponsive. So he started tapping me, you know, trying
to shake me a little bit.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Nathan. Nathan.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
No response, and so the officer who came to the
side of the scene reported it as a fatality.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
So I did.

Speaker 7 (41:31):
I died on the scene, and they put me in
an ambulance and they rushed me to the ICU in
U and M hospital and I mean, God, bless my parents. Right,
I say this time and time again they got the
call that I was on the way to the hospital dead,
and it was actually my coach who called my mom.

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And if my mom always says, if she would get
a call from my coach, she knew that something is,
something bad happened, right, you shouldn't be getting a call
from a coach staring a long ride. So they rushed
to the hospital and I was in a coma for
two weeks, and by God's grace, of course, I opened
my eyes after two weeks, paralyzed on my left side,

(42:16):
so I was in the ICU for a month, and
then they put me on a medical flight up to
Craig Hospital, And yeah, we can dive into my recovery.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
I'm sure as well.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Well, I want to talk for just a moment and
on your website, and I have all of Nathan's information.
He's got a new book coming out. We're going to
talk about it in a few minutes. But you and
your story, you say you have the accident in your timeline,
a catastrophic car crash that claimed my life on the
side of a desolate road. In that moment, everything I
knew sees to exist, followed by eternal peace, light and

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joy and experience of the joy and piece that awaits
us all a radiant light, a homecoming. I am fascinated
by near death experiences. My audience knows this. I think
they give us a window into what we can cannot
understand on this earth.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Tell me about that. Yeah, this is this is fascinating, Mandy.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
And why I'm excited you asked me about this question
is because you have an experience with new death or
near death experience stories.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
Right, You've heard several yourself.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I told him that, I talked to Vinnie Toldman and
how much I love any interviews that I've done, But go.

Speaker 7 (43:21):
Ahead, yeah, yeah, And this is so interesting because so
many people, unfortunately, right around the world have experienced near
death experiences.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Right.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
There's there's an abundance, unfortunately, of stories with people who
have experienced this, this same near death experience. And what
is miraculous to me, Mandy, is that all of the
stories mirror each other, right, they all they all mimic

(43:56):
each other in regard to that light, right, in regard
to that piece, that perfect piece, and my personal near
death experience. It's it's really hard to put this into words, right.
It's something that people have always asked me about. And
it's hard to articulate because words are you know, words

(44:20):
don't cover the the incredible.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Experience that we don't have the vocabulary.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
We don't have the vocabulary that is big enough to
That's what I've been told multiple times, like we are
vocabulary doesn't get close enough to what the actual existence is.

Speaker 7 (44:38):
Absolutely and this is that is exactly true, right. And
I think if I were to articulate it and put
words to the experience, the way I would describe it
would be it was this large field, right, glass grass field.

(44:59):
And and it was very yeah, I mean obviously very
very bright, and joyful and peaceful, eternally peaceful. It's just
the most piece you could ever imagine. You can't imagine
that type of peace on this earth. Right, And it
was perfect. And while I was there, there were there

(45:20):
were seven I call them angels, right, So seven holy
presences with me that I had a fear of, you know,
conversing with because I didn't want them to take me.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Quote unquote right. But I knew that this was the
place where I was meant to be.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
Right.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
It was it was perfect, it was peaceful, it was
eternal perfection, right, And so while I was there.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
It was.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
An experience that I actually told my grandmother about when
I was back home recovering. I told her Man, I
would never want to do anything wrong ever again in
my life because I know I know the perfection that
awaits us, all right. And so when you experience that
type of perfection that you know, that private revelation, right,

(46:12):
then you realize what we all are promised and what
we all have in store. And so I think that's
something that I would love for this audience to hear.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
And every audience to hear, right, is that.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
It's easy to get lost in the trials of each day, right.
And this is what you were talking about when we
first started this episode, right, Mandy, that there's a lot
of bad news all the time, and that's always pushed
in our face, that's always shoved down our throats, quote unquote.
But really the key to life is realizing that every

(46:52):
time we open our eyes right, tomorrow is never promised.
So each day that you open your eyes, it is
a blessing, right, And it's all about how we utilize
this time, which is so precious to us.

Speaker 8 (47:04):
Right.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Our time is so precious to us.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
Utilize your time to create the life that you dream of, right,
and to create the life that you long for. Maybe
it's maybe it's riding your bike all day long, like
I was right. Maybe it's building a business, Maybe it's
starting a family. Maybe it's it's going into a place
on your own to read a book and be at peace.
Maybe it is it is finding your own piece.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Right.

Speaker 7 (47:28):
There's there's so many different opportunities for so many people.
But the only difference between holding yourself back and letting
yourself move forward freely is just really taking gratitude for
every second that we live, because each day is a
miracle for us all.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Did this experience help you get through the significant challenges
that you faced when you woke up because you went
to you you.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Were riding your bike. You got hit by a car.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
You want to you got hit by a car is
a healthy athlete sixteen years old? You woke up devastated physically.
Do you think having that experience helped you get through
the hard parts that you had to face?

Speaker 7 (48:12):
Well, this is an interesting question, Mandy, because I do
believe that it did help me, But it is It's
something that I've spoken with with several of my mentors,
my business mentors and my partners just about my mentality, right,
It's kind of a David Goggin's mentality, if you want

(48:32):
to call it that, right. It's obviously when I was
an athlete, as a cyclist, my eyes were set on
the Olympics and the Tour de France, like I said,
and I was sixteen years old, and I would do
anything it took to get me there, and I was
achieving each goal that I set myself to in order
to get there. And that is a mentality that has

(48:54):
a lot of fortitude and grit and perseverance. And so
I know that that same mentality is what brought me
through the recovery. It is it is very difficult to
lay in bed, right when you're laying in a bed
and I have to attempt to lean over and press

(49:14):
a button to have a nurse come roll me out
just to wake up in the morning and put me
in a wheelchair to be in that bed. While I
also knew that I was a nationally ranked cyclist. Is
is that's that's a struggle, right, That is pain and
difficulty to the to the greatest extent that I could
imagine for myself. And so that was a really difficult.

(49:41):
I guess, I guess sense of self worth that I encountered, right,
But that sort of mentality is what kept me pushing forward,
and I was always motivated to get back to my
fullest capacity. What and that that can be mirrored in

(50:01):
my life story here in my life story with businesses
in my life story many times over, right, as it
can be mirrored in many other people's lives.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
I want to get to your business stuff because I
think it's super interesting that you have had in and
obviously physically, how are you doing because we're almost out
of time, and I want to make sure to talk
about this transition because I think your approach to what
you do in business is very interesting, right, It's very interesting.
So how are you physically now these how many years later?

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (50:29):
Absolutely, well, these how many years later is a great,
great question. So physically I am very blessed. I ran
a marathon about two years ago.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
God Nathan be making its all look bad. Come on, man,
least for the rest of us. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 7 (50:46):
And I wake up every morning at four fifty two
to work out outdoors every morning with the F three
group here in Colorado Springs. We work out starting at
five point thirty in the morning until six fifteen, and
it's always outdoors. So physically, I am very blessed. I'm
doing well in regard to the time frame of recovery.

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This year, this January twenty third, marks the ten year anniversary,
if you want to.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Call it that, of the day that I was hit
by the car.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
And this year, on January twenty third, I am publishing
my book Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth, which was
co authored by Sharon Lecter, who's the one who wrote
Rich Dad, Poor Dat And what we're doing is is
this book is really redefining wealth for a new generation.
And I'm sure we can dive into this more, but
it's an incredible full circle. Ten years since I was hit,

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I'm able to begin my next phase of development.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Right, Nathan, I love I love this and I'd love
to have you back on in January just to talk
about the book and just to talk about why a
guy who has in your death experience decides to go
into the financial area, because a lot of people would
say cynically, well, of course, now he's going to use
that for sympathy. But after just reading on your website,

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your philosophy to your point, I think is going to resonate,
especially with a lot of younger listeners, Like my kids
are millennials, and though they have done an amazing job
financially for themselves, they're Dave Ramsey acolytes. They have no debt,
They've really done amazing things. The reason they want to
build wealth is to use it for something else, you

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know what I mean. Their goal is not to have
a giant mansion or a Ferrari.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
Their goals are.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Much much different, and it seems like that is what
this new book is about.

Speaker 7 (52:36):
Yeah, absolutely, so true. Wealth right isn't just what you
earn or what you own. It's who you become, right,
the freedom you have with your time, and the impact
that your life creates.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Right.

Speaker 7 (52:47):
And it's the perfect alignment I think. You know, most
people don't fail financially. They fail because becoming they fail,
be becoming someone that they didn't recognize in the process.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Right.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
So it's so true that we need to be able
to keep ourselves grounded and keep our purpose right. Money's important,
of course, which is why I think it's funny you
mentioned financial But it's a terrible master and it's a
powerful servant, right, So if your success costs you your health, family,
your peace, it's too expensive.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
So Nathan work, we're out of time to wealth. Yeah,
we're out of time. But I did put a link
to Nathan's website if you want to know more about him,
If you want to go ahead and free order the book.
But Nathan, we're going to have you on in January
before the book comes out, maybe a couple days, give
you that last little boost to get you over the edge.
What a fascinating story and what a fascinating way that

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you approach life because of all of these different pravails
that you've gone through. I can't wait to read the book.
And I appreciate you making time for us today.

Speaker 7 (53:51):
Yeah, Mandy, thank you. It is such an honor to
be speaking with you and to be collaborating with you
to be able to bring more positivity to the world.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Right.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Absolutely, Nathan Barcosi, thank you for making time for us today.
Five top candidates for governor on the GOP ticket to
have committed, one has not, and you had that one
on your program this morning, and that's what.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
We're here to talk about, yes, presenting that platform.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Victor Marx was on Rhine Show and as a matter
of fact, a rod, let's reach out to the Victor
Marks campaign again and see if we can get them
on the show. And I've listened to about three quarters
of it, and right I'm trying to figure out why
many of our mutual friends that we love in respect
have just thrown all in with Victor Mark. Tell me

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what's your takeaways from the interview our today? And by
the way, I linked to the interview today on my
blog thank you, and I would love it if everyone
go listen to it.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
I invite people to listen to it as well.

Speaker 9 (54:44):
We will have an encore presentation of it as I'm
pulling double duty over on the six thirty day out
air waves duty well at six to ten am, as
we're all be stationed starting on Monday, January five until
then in that time slot this week, but again I
repurposed two to four and at the two o'clock hours,
so top of the ar nothing you should tune away
from Mandy Connell, but it will reair there and you

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can find it. As Mandy mentioned on the podcast with
a link one, I'm glad he came in. Yep, we
had the conversation. I respect him for doing it. It
was a little hot out of the box there between
he and.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
He tried to turn the tables and make it about you, right,
And though I understand what he was doing, I don't
think he has the street credit yet to pull that off.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Well.

Speaker 9 (55:29):
I think it was more like a getting to know
you session two of I am not an operative at all.
I mean I always make the Groucho Marx joke. I
think you do the same largely, Mandy, when it comes
to like Republican Party politics. I would never belong to
a club that would have me as a member. That's
the Groucho Marx joke. And I don't like getting too
far into the weeds, you know. I see these chat

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rooms and conversations about the party and the leadership and
the dissonance within it, Like I don't want to be
a part of that. So what I viewed my job
to be, and similar with you, is we're going to
be co moderating this debate. I just want to get
to the facts of the matter and who are these people?
And I didn't know who Victor Marx was. Quite frankly.
I knew Barb Kirkmeyer fairly well. I know Greg Lopez

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fairly well. I know Scott Bottom's fairly well, and he'll
be on with me at eight oh five am tomorrow
because he wishes to refute claim that Victor made during
my conversation with him that Scott Botdams had asked Victor
one not to run at all for governor and then
part two, would you be my lieutenant governor? Bottoms asking
that of Mark. Scott says that never happened.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
Right, Let's see.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Let me give you the quote that I got from Scott,
who will be on my show tomorrow at one pm.
He said, I I'd like to say, he is not
being honest. Quote, he is not being honest when he
says that that happened.

Speaker 9 (56:46):
And to me, again, I think Victor had me all wrong.
I don't make any presuppositions you talk about there's a
lot of people maybe in our circles that jumped right
on the Victor Marx bandwagon. And that's true, including two
people that I know that I like that I respect
in Heidi Ganaal and Lauren Bobert, who come on my
show all the time, and I'm like, well, where did
this come from? Who is this guy? Why are they
so excited? Enthusiastic about him. He's got ties apparently to

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Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Charlie Kirk wrote a forward for one of his books.

Speaker 9 (57:14):
Sure, so you know, I'm factoring all of this in,
but like you, I'm not going to just jump in
for or against a candidate. I want to get to
what is the root of the matter. Who is this guy?
Why is he running for governor? Plus, he has had
such a prevalent online presence with some wild posts of videos,
and I pulled sound from that and basically what I

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did over the course of this conversation was play that
back for him and have him react and respond to it,
and try to explain some things where areas where I
had some points of confusion that I felt the listeners
deserved answers to.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
And that's where, you know, you talk about how the
interview began.

Speaker 9 (57:53):
He kind of trying to turn around on me, and
I'm like, it's not about me, the listeners that you're
talking to right now. And one of the biggest things
I came back around to, and there's a Mandy Connell
Tye in here, was he skipped out on this debate
that we're talking about, that he was invited to Yep,
there was a month's notice Sheriff Steve Reames, Steve Wells
putting this together on behalf of the Republican Party in

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World County. All five other candidates almost immediately responded. And
the only reason Scott Botamston is he lost his father, Yeah,
within days of this invitation. So there's a chat thread,
and we go over that in the interview too. But
when I pressed him on the details, like you said,
you have an out of state event, Well, where is this?

Speaker 5 (58:30):
What is it? It's a fundraising event in Florida.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
But here's my question, Ryan, He says, before I even announced,
we had four fundraisers in Florida.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
What I need? Why are you fundraising outside of the state.
I don't.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
That was a terrible answer, Absolutely terrible answer.

Speaker 9 (58:50):
I think the initial calculation might have been it was
for his All Things Possible ministry.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
That's what I.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Got, But that's not how I came across in the interview.
I need some clear already on what those events are.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Well my point, and I think a lot of listeners
would share this.

Speaker 9 (59:04):
Who are Colorado residents, Colorado voters, maybe your resident Weld County.
I had people reach out to me, Bryan, I really
want tickets to this debate that you and Mandy are moderating.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
I want to get to know these candidates.

Speaker 9 (59:14):
It was an opportunity, yep, for Victor Marx to show
up and to share that stage with his competitors and
status policy positions and call out his opponents all of that.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
In Weld County.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
I don't think you could win the Republican nomination without
winning Weld County.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
It's got to be really, really hard.

Speaker 9 (59:31):
My basic question for him, and this drew some consternation,
was how is it that a fundraiser a four of
them or however many of them that you have in
Florida is more important than attending and participating in a
big debate in Welld County in front of potential constituents
of yours.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
That was a legitimate question.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
There was a lot of obfuscation on his part. There
was a lot of changing the question that was answered
to be something that he was more he felt more suitable.
And I'm going to tell you one of the things
that I find very, very very off putting is his well.
I invited him to come down to our leadership conference
and I'll buy the first cup of coffee. Dude, why

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should people You're not the Wizard.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Why should they have Why should they have to make
the pilgrimage.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
To come see you? How are you going to serve
the rest of the state. Oh, if you want to
see the Wizard, you better.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Come to Oz. What is that?

Speaker 9 (01:00:23):
Another question I had from along those lines was, you know,
why is your time more important and valuable than those
of the other candidates. And we've got two state senators
in the race, you got a sheriff in the race,
You've got a former Congressman Greg Lopez in the race.
Like they have plans, activities, events scheduled as well, and
they dropped whatever they had planned for Saturday, January tenth

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at a moment's notice to participate in this debate. And
further to that point on the text thread, you and
I were a part of both Barb Kirkmeyer and Greg
Lopez said, Okay, you can't do.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
Saturday the tent What about the next weekend? What about
any other weekend. We will recalibrate the schedule.

Speaker 9 (01:01:00):
To accommodate you so that you can have a place
on that stage. And I just think that right now
he's waiting, for whatever reason, to raise money.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
First, I don't know. Well, and Ryan, you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Tried to press him like how much notice do you
need right to appear at Oh, I don't know. It
just depends on my schedule. So essentially, whatever you try
to plan, you have to call Victor Marks first.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
You have to find out what his schedule allows.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Now granted he's been very there's no answer of what's
on his schedule of the following weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:01:29):
He just said, no, that's what I got. And again
I came back to the quest why is your time,
Victor Marx, your time more valuable or important than that
of Barb Kirkmeyer, Brant Lopez, Scott Bottom's, Mark Baisley, And
he said, well, no, no, no, no, it's that's not what
I mean, and that's not what I'm talking but it's
kind of what is being communicated there, like said, if.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
You want to talk to them, they can come to you.
That's I don't love it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
In this next segment, and Ryan, thank you, I put
a link to the entire interview. Not only do I
want people to listen to it in your Facebook groups,
share it with people that they find it interesting, let
them tell you or explain because I'm asking my audience
in the next segment, those of you who are Victor
Marx supporters make me see what I am missing, right, Okay,

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because I've watched the social media videos, I've watched the
slick rollout, I've heard the incredibly compelling backstory I've and
I'm still not sold.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
I need to know what I'm missing. Ryan. I appreciate you, Man,
appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
You can hear Ryan starting on January fifth, permanently doing
the morning show on six point thirty k hol and
I hope you would check a show out because Ryan's
one of my favorite people.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Thank you, man, I'm saying same.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
And I'll see you January tenth, and Greeley, you got
you know we will see Victor Marx anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
As I've told you, as I've told every audience for
the last twenty years that I've been doing this. If
you have a chance to see someone running for office
in person, always do it because you see things, you
learn things, You get a vibe from someone that you
cannot get from a social met video or a slit
campaign ad, and certainly not a mailer. Right. So I'm

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looking for opportunities to help you make that happen. I asked,
very honestly, Victor Mark supporters in my audience, please tell
me why you are supporting him, why you feel passionately
about him, because I am missing it. I'm just missing it, Mandy.
He seems like he's part of the religious right too.
Are one or two issue only and if you don't

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agree with that, they don't want to have anything to
do with you. They would rather die on a hill
over one or two things and not consider anything else.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
And if the party loses the election, they say, see,
if you'd agreed with us.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
We would have won. The county he's from is full
of those voters. They won't compromise on anything. I agree
wholeheartedly with this Texter's message. I mean exactly right. There
is a bubble around El Paso County Republicans that is
darn near impenetrable, and they truly believe that everyone in

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the state, if given the opportunity to vote for someone
more conservative, would do it, when there's no polling data.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
To suggest that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
And if you look at the way elections are going,
they're going in the opposite direction.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
The rest of the country went.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
More red in twenty twenty Colorado, excuse me. Twenty twenty four,
Colorado went more blue. It's delusional, Mandy. Isn't there anyone
who will run on the independent platform so we at
least have a small chance of getting a few Conservatives
in an office in Colorado? So many lefties associate Republicans

(01:04:34):
with Trump. You are also exactly right, Mandy. I just
ordered a battery organizer for everyone on my Christmas list,
including one for my barber.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Thanks, Mandy, you rock.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
If you missed our conversation earlier about Christmas gift suggestions,
A Rod said my battery organizer was a lousy idea,
even though my husband loves his.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Just saying, Mandy, I'm guessing Marks will wait.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
I'm guessing Marx will shove the convention aside and petition
to get on the primary ballot.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
I think he thinks he can get out out of
the He may be able to get out of the Assembly,
because we all know the Assembly manages to pick the
most unelectable Republican pretty much every single time, Mandy. A
few weeks ago, Representative Bottoms on Joe Oltman's podcast stated,
in no uncertain terms he would not ask Victor Marx
to be lieutenant governor or any role in his cabinet.

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Expressed concerns he's learned Mandy Victor Marx is a nutjob.
These are not supports I need supporting. I need people
who are supporting. Mandy's principled and he will act on
his principles. It will be a refreshing change. But how
And that's where I get stuck. You know, I love

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people who are principled, people of high moral character.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
I truly do.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
But the reality on the ground in Colorado is how
do you take those principles turn them into policy that
you can actually get an act in Colorado. If you
don't have any sort of plan for that, then you're
just making promises you know you can't keep. But I
appreciate that texture I do. Five sixty six nine, Oh
is the text line I'd like to hear from supporters
of Victor Marks what it is about him and his

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candidacy that you want to support? Five sixty six nine Oh.
I'm gonna let you guys text Over the break. We
will be back with more show. And I have so
much stuff on the blog today. I feel like this
show's gone really really fast, really fast, and We've got
to talk about Denver City Council virtue signaling harder than
any other city council.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Again.

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Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
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Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
You can call him, you can call him a rod any.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Anyway, I asked you, guys, supporters of Victor Marx, to
send me emails about what it is you really like
about him.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Why you're supporting the man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Text them to the Common Spirit Health text line at
five six six. N I know, first text message of
any substance, says Mandy. Seems kind of obvious that you
have already decided against Victor Marx. I don't believe you've
had one single conversation with him, so I'm not sure
where that's coming from.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
I believe there's no.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Candidate that has set out his policies and plans to
fight against the Democrats. What Victor plans to do is
work with Democrats to use his skills as a negotiator,
as one who can bring people together for the common good.
That's how he's going to do it. He's going to
not be a politician. Longtime listener, Mandy, but just a
little disappointed in your viewpoint on this one. And I

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would say, you know what, that's a fair criticism, right,
But let me give you my background on why I
feel the way I do. I have seen and interviewed
and been in the same room with I don't even know,
at least hundreds of candidates for office from like your
basic you know, school board candidates, whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Straight up.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
I've interviewed presidential candidates for the United States of America.

Speaker 9 (01:08:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
I have supportive candidates that I thought were really great
because I just did a surface dive, and later on
when I helped him get elected, they turned into a nightmare.
So I have a bit of history bringing this to
the to the game, right, And here's what I will
tell you about candidates that I've supported that I regret

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supporting later they run as outsiders and not politicians. They obfus,
skate or dodge hard questions. They don't put themselves in
positions well they have to answer difficult things, or if
they do, they give pat answers to every single question.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
They say.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
They're not politicians, but generally speaking from a media perspective,
they are far slicker than most amateur people who are
running for office for the first time. They are carefully packaged,
They are carefully presented.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
As you know, this is the person, this is the
end all.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
And I got to tell you, when you get burned
as many times as I've gotten burned, it makes you
reluctant when someone sort of fits into all of those categories,
and yet we're told, look at this political newcomer, just
came out of nowhere. I feel the same way about
the former military officer who's running against Lauren Bobert because

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her campaig is so perfectly packaged. There are a lot
of political consultants behind that campaign. I don't trust it.
I'm inherently distrustful. If you've been chosen as the chosen
candidate by either party, I'm inherently distrustful. So if it's
coming across with Victor May's you are accurate, I can't

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help it. I'm trying to be honest. We reached out
to his campaign once, never heard anything. A Rod's going
to reach out again. I'm going to work like the
devil to get him on the show and hopefully we'll
have a conversation. But yeah, I think that I am
I am. I am a little skeptical of the claims

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that I've heard from from some folks, so that is
a fair criticism of me. Colorado's GOP has been lost
since the Dan Mays fiasco. Before you got here, says
this Texter stalwart Republicans were behind Dan Mays come hell
or high water. Tom Twan Credo ran on the American
Constitution Party and came in second. The Colorado GOP came
in at about eleven percent. Tan Credo would have nearly

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beaten Hickenlooper in the first term and possibly beat him
with a few dynamic changes. Dan cratered and got about
thirty seven percent of the vote. Ever since that election,
the Colorado GOP has been a total fiasco and joke.
They should have gone behind Tan Credo and they would
have had a damn sight better chance of having a
legacy of keeping Colorado purple.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
A red.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
The current Colorado is feckless and incompetent. So there you go, Mandy,
I'm still deciding who to support. What Marks is not
is his most appealing trait. Obviously, he's not the cliche
establishment are attempting to fit in harder, but a candidate,
a candidly flawed candidate. Colorado is an unrecognizable mess, and

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it's time the stone that was rejected becomes the cornerstone.
But see, here's the problem that goes exactly back to
what I'm remember herschel Walker and Georgia. He's not a politician, he's.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Also a disaster.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Are z to shake things up to do something different.
First of all, one candidate is not going to change
Colorado unless they are strong enough to bring everybody down
ballot up with them. Mandy, you conflated Dan May's and
Victor Mark. So that was a text message. Sorry, that
was a text message, and they said it was reminiscent

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of Dan Mays two point zero, So that was me
me reading a text message. Sorry about that, Mandy. I
don't know much about the guy, but sadly, if the
pope was running in Colorado, he wouldn't win governor. If
he's also a Republican. Yeah, yeah, kind of, No, Mandy,
I've seen these Victor Marx's videos. This guy has an

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ego the size of Texas and the fact that he's
flip flopped on Tina Peters. This guy's not genuine. At
least that's a suggest I get from watching him, seeing
his videos, you know, hearing him speak objectively. It's all
about his ego nothing more. He just wants to be
governor so he can put it in front of his name.
I will not vote for the guy, even if he
is the candidate. Now here you go, guys. If he's

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a Republican candidate, I'm all vote for him. I'm on record,
I'm voting for the Republican candidate unless they turn out
to be an axe murder after the premier, I am
voting for the Republican candidate. Just you know, I want
the Republican candidates to be electable. And I'm just afraid
that there are so many questions in Victor Marx's past

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about his story that the Democrats will be able to
exploit that and present him as some kind of con man.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
Even if he isn't. Because if Republicans.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Are looking at him in that light, you can only
imagine what the Democrats and yes, the Democrat media will
do in addition, so hopefully we'll get him on the show.
I appreciate the way you guys texted in. I find
it interesting that literally three people were in favor. But

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I promise when he comes on the show, I will
give him a fear. I just want to find out
more about the guy and why he seems to believe
that the campaign is like he is the sun in
the campaign and all of the other candidates are are
circling around him. I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
I do not get it, Mandy, Lol.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
The pope is a leftist. I know they were just
making a point. Guys, I gotta tell this story because
in case you were wondering, in case you have forgotten,
that the Denver City Council is the most moral, upstanding,
and righteous city council in.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
The whole world.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
They've reaffirmed it yesterday by virtue signaling on a conversation
about leasing twelve hundred square feet of space at the
Denver International Airport.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
What am I talking about. There's a company called key
Lime Air.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
They are well established at the Denver International Airport and
part of what key Lime air does is they charter
planes right like big planes, and lately they've been chartering
planes to ice. ICE is then use some of those
planes to deport detainees out of the country according to

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Human Rights First?

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
Whatever? What even is human Rights First? What even is that?

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
Who is we are the people behind Human Rights First?
Nine News not even a link to their website.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
The airline operated eleven percent of its charter planes for
deportation or detention transfers in the month of November. This organization,
which we don't know anything about because nine news just
glosses over that because well they agree with it. The
organization has been tracking ice flights with key limes since
they started operating these types of flights in September. So

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here's a question that comes before the Denver City Council.
They want to lease twelve hundred Think about that yelt
That is a ten by twelve square right, I mean,
isn't that twelve hundred wait? Twelve yeah, twelve by hunt
it's not very big, twelve by one hundred, I guess
twelve hundred square feet. They would have gotten paid for it.

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It's rent. They already have space and Elise at the
Denver International Airport. But never let a great chance to
virtue signal go to waste. That is the motto of
the Denver City Council. Council member Serena Gonzales. Gutierrez said,
we have to make those changes, and this is one
of those steps, but it doesn't negate the fact that

(01:16:25):
these flights will probably still continue. As she voted against
leasing more space to key Lime Air, She's absolutely right.
There's literally nothing that happened yesterday that is going to
prevent key Lime Air from continuing to lease a whopping
eleven percent of its aircraft. Two Ice Council member Kevin Flynn,
who honestly one of the two voices of sanity on

(01:16:48):
the entire council, noted that rejecting the lease just means
that the airline will use common use areas at the
airport for free. So that just means we'll still have
the space, but there's no revenue for Denver. Amanda Sandoval
piped in, I am not going to fund the Deportation

(01:17:09):
Industrial Complex.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
Anymore with our city dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
So to Amanda Sandoval, having someone sign a lease to
pay money to the City of Denver in order to
have more storage space at the airport. Is somehow the
city dollars funding the deportation industrial complex?

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Like, how is that?

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
How do you even get how do you how do
you make that leap? You know, sometimes logic is not
a straight line, but it's it's a line, it's not
a circle, you know, and and that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
But she continues, I will not have.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
My name as Amanda Sandoval on a key Lime thing
that says we are deporting people and we support that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
Oh god.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Gilmour went on to say she's been tracking key Lime activities.
She questioned whether DIA leadership adequately considered the implications before
bringing the contract forward.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
Gilmore said, when we know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
That people's constitutional rights are being violated by a greedy
air carrier, that they are trying to fill a gap
and they are deporting people, it's an easy no for me.
Sarah Parody had to pipe in as well, so everyone
knew she too, was morally superior. This is where the
rubber starts to hit the road when we talk about

(01:18:35):
what are we gonna do in Denver about what's happening
at the federal level. So their answer to that big question,
what are we gonna do to show the Feds.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
We're not gonna take money.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
To lease space and instead let the company we disagree
with just use the common areas instead for no money.
I don't think I even have to say anything to
point out. I mean, I think this audience is smart.
You know what you just heard me say. You know
what just happened anyway, Mandy, going back to our further conversation,

(01:19:12):
as a moderate dem I would love for a reasonable
moderate who isn't a Trump loved toady, who will negotiate
from a moderate position to healthy parties is always better
for everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
Thanks. Yes it is, Yes it is, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
I don't know who said it, but roughly it was said,
political consultants have a black dating book, an inch thick
and no girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Yep, there you go. We'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Okay, guys, I'm gonna play something for you, and I
have to jump in because with Instagram, I can't stop it.
And I should have recorded, and I didn't. I'm just
like a slacking off. But I talked about this briefly yesterday.
But I gotta tell you, sometimes I see something online
and I see it at exactly the right moment and
it just hits different.

Speaker 5 (01:19:59):
And this video is one of them. Arod, can you
give him my audio? Please?

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
This guy and I have to kind of jump it
in the middle to just work with me. This guy
is asking chat GPT and he talks really fast chat
GPT hypothetical questions. Okay, and we're gonna jump in as
he's describing the question that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
He asks chat hang on side.

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
Why I can't even Hey, I can't make the audio work.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Dang it. I'll see if I can get it to work.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Here.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
It should just start a second, just leave it up,
just leave it up. Oh, there we go.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Here we go at Chadgypt and see what it says.

Speaker 6 (01:20:37):
So for this one, I said, Jadgib, please try and
be as unbiased as possible to answer this one.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
Everything's on the table.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
Religion, atheism, psychology, physics, philosophy, NDEs, data, whatever you want.
I just kid, you tell me what you think, and
you aren't just reinforcing what I think a grief you want.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
But I'm looking for an honest sounding board.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
So that's the pre prompt.

Speaker 6 (01:20:56):
And then I asked it if I could only ask
one question after I died, what should it be? I'm
assuming most people would ask where am I going what's
next something like that? Is that a good question? And
I said no, because they don't matter? And I said
why don't they matter? And it said, if there's a
heaven or hell or some next phase, you're likely already

(01:21:17):
heading there. Asking won't change your destination. It's a wasted question.
I said, a good point. What about did I do enough?
And it said you also shouldn't ask did I do enough?
Because once this life ends, regardless of beliefs, there's no
more doing, no more trying. You were left with the
truth you already lived. And I said, okay, So what

(01:21:41):
do you think is the best question to ask? If
you only had to ask one or you only could
ask one? And it said you should ask did I
see it? And I said, why is that the question?

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
This is good?

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
It said, did I see the sunrise I rushed past?
Did I feel the love standing right in front of me?
Did I notice the beauty in the days I labeled boring?
Did I see any of it? And I said, why
does seeing my life matter more than anything else?

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
I could have asked? This is? This is great?

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
I mean, this new update is kind of wild. It said,
once you die, the only thing left is awareness? Not fixing,
not changing, just knowing. And the truth you'd want most
is whether you were ever awake for the life you
spent so much time surviving.

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
I'm gonna tell you, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Have you heard Nathan Barcosi on the show earlier he
had a near death experience. But I saw that this
weekend and it's hot when I was sitting on my
chair kind of not doom scrolling, but just like wasting time, right,
And I watched this video and I thought, whoa uh.
And now I'm driving home yesterday and it was a

(01:22:56):
it was, you know, a lovely afternoon. I'm driving home
and I I found myself taking note of everything around me,
things I've driven by a million times. I mean, you
know how it is. You get a little highway hypnosis
while you're driving home, you leave work, and all of
a sudden, you're home and you don't remember anything that
happened in the interim. Obviously you were driving, but you've
just seen all of it before. And I thought to myself,

(01:23:18):
this is one of those videos that if you really
just think about it for a moment and you evaluate
the way that you're living your life and the way
that you move through your day.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
It all goes to the same thing that seems to
be the underlying.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
Just the crux of so many of the conversations that
we have today about loneliness and purpose in life and
things of that nature. And I was just having this
conversation with Chuck, my husband, not too many days ago,
and I said, look, if you live in the future,
you will always be anxious, right if you're always looking
ahead to what could come, thinking about everything negative that

(01:23:55):
could happen, So you can come up with a plan
to fix it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
And you do that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
With the with the intention of mitigating everything that could
go wrong. But what you do is you create a
permanent state of anxiety for yourself. When you're only thinking
about the bad things that could be coming, it's very
hard to focus on the good things that you have
in front of you. And if you're always living in
the past, you will most assuredly remain depressed.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
I said it before.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
I I after I divorced my first husband, I saw
a therapist and she was wonderful, she was so fantastic.
And I would be talking about something I should have
done differently, or I should have I should have I
should have, and she she would just look at me
and tap my knee and say, well, then go back
in your time machine and change it, sugar. And when
I started thinking about that and putting it into practice.

(01:24:44):
And by the way, this is not to say I
never think about things in the past and think about
what I could have done differently, but I look at
it in the past with the knowledge that I am
doing that to better prepare me for a similar challenge
in the future. If that makes sense, right, learn from it,
don't get bob down in it. But then I have

(01:25:06):
this fantastic story on the blog today about how to
make your relationship with your loved one stronger, and it's
just about mindfulness. And I know we've all heard the
concept you just need to be more mindful, but honestly,
what does that even mean? What does mindfulness even mean?
It's one of those buzzwords that people say, and half
the time when they're saying it, I don't even think

(01:25:27):
they know what it means. So I'm gonna lay it
out for you. Mindfulness is making sure that you see it.
Mindfulness is living in the present, in the moment that
you're in right now.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
And it sounds like it should be the easiest thing
in the world. But that's not how our lizard brain
is wired.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
You know, we have our conscious brain, which is where
we have all of our smarts and all of our
experiences and all of those conscious decisions you make on
every day to be a good person, to put your
cart back at the grocery store, you know, things like that.
But then we have that lizard brain in our brain,
and the lizard brain is just there to protect you.

(01:26:08):
The lizard brain makes you think, oh no, what's coming
that I should be aware of, right, that's your lizard brain.
I love that we're all kind of talking about the
power of the mind right now. I do believe in
all of these things. I know they sound really woo
woo into that blue collar guy who's listening right now.
I'm sorry this might be a chick segment in your mind.
But mindfulness is for everybody living in the moment, is

(01:26:29):
where everybody making sure you see it. Can you imagine
if that's the question when you get to the great beyond,
if you're a believer, whatever that looks like for you,
If that's the question, if Saint Peter, if that's your
belief system looks at you when you arrive at the
pearly gates and he says.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
Did you see it though?

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
And you have to answer no because you were busy
trying to figure out what to do next. It's a
fascinating video, and it's on the blog. It is an
Instagram video, so it's a little bit it doesn't embed
well on our website, and it's right below another Instagram video.
You Oreo cookie fans, you should be over the moon.
Hey Rudder, you an Oreo cookie guy?

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Sure are you? I am not a huge or I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
A huge cookie person. We've already established. But my husband
and step sons they are cookie maniacs. They love Oreo cookies.
Did you see the new Oreo flavors? Some that are
coming back and then some that are being added. We've
got Oreo cake stirs, which I've never had. They kind
of seem like fancy little Debbie cakes.

Speaker 5 (01:27:31):
Is that right? They ever had them? The little soft cakes?

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Yes, Well, they've got a confetti cake option coming for you.

Speaker 5 (01:27:38):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
I'm not an Oreo person, but when I saw Oreo
Thins Chocolate Ganache, I was like, I'm intrigued. I might
swipe right on Oreo Thins Chocolate Ganache. They look amazing
Oreo Mini's peanut butter flavor Oreo muffins, which honestly sound
kind of gross Golden Oreo Mini's. I actually like the

(01:28:01):
golden ones better regular oreomen and zero sugar Oreos. I
can't even imagine what kind of chemical poop storm that
is cookie dough flavored oreos reces peanut butter flavored oreos.
You Oreo people, you have much to rejoice about, much
to rejoice about. You know who doesn't have as much

(01:28:22):
to rejoice about. I got two groups of people that
don't have as much to rejoice about as you might think.
The first is the Cuban people. Now they have not
had a lot to uh celebrate for a very long time.
But you may remember Michael Moore did a movie called
Sico that Yeah, Sico, where he went on to talk

(01:28:45):
about how broken our healthcare system was, and then he
went to Cuba to show you how glorious the socialized
medicine and Cuba really was. And now the Cuban health
system is completely collapsing. Why because the island is being
hit with a convergence of multiple respiratory illnesses that are

(01:29:08):
hitting people at the same time. Not only killing people,
very very quickly, especially the elderly or little children. They're
leaving people permanently disabled because of the severity of the illness.
They have no medicine, they have no space, and the
Cuban officials have absolutely no idea what to do with

(01:29:30):
all this. Now, this isn't some new strain of virus.
This is a situation where people are getting multiple viruses
at the same time. Several mosquito born viruses create a
combined Herba virus that includes dengey a rapuci and chicken chick,

(01:29:50):
chicken wait chick, and gun oh chick and gunya chicken
chicken gunya c h i k u n g u
n y a. Put that in the internet and find
out how to say that a rod chicken gun yat
c h i k u n g u.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
N y a.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
And now that's mixed in with other respiratory viruses such
as H one N influenza and COVID nineteen, and the
Cuban health.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
System is absolute collapsing. Okay, So.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
Chicken gunya, Okay, that was a shot in the dark,
an absolute shot in the dark. The Cuban government has
finally recognized the National epidem epid Why are there so
many hard words in this story. There's an epidemic going

(01:30:46):
on in Cuba. The outlook is so critical that some
of appealed to the international community not to let their
so called diseased ship sync with its millions.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
Of people on board.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
But the absolute collapse of the Cuban healthcare system has
been devastating.

Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
There is no medicine.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
There is a seventy percent deficit of medication supplies, so
doctors are boiling oregano leaves, a clove of garlic and
forecloves to fight these illnesses. So it is an absolute disaster.
It's not Rece's you, hay seed. It is where I'm from.
Oreo dark chocolate are fantastic. I don't need to know that.

(01:31:28):
Long story short, but I was forced to eat Oreos
for three days straight and they're the most disgusting food
on the planet. I feel like I kind of want
to know what became before that, Like where you snowed in.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
In a cabin with only.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
A package of Oreo cookies to keep you sustained.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
What was the rest of that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Mandy I read once We walk around half asleep, yawning
our way through the cosmic glory. That surrounds us amen
to that, Mandy, Come on, Donald Trump, Hey wait, how.

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
Do you say that?

Speaker 7 (01:32:02):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
They're disappointed that you didn't hit you with a drop
a rod. They're mad, and I you know, yeah, no, no,
because I best I have had to say that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:17):
No, no, no doubt, no, Okay, are super judgy about this?

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
I mean he's thinking, he's just super judgy. Great cat
Joe coming up in four minutes. If I like it,
He's like, no, I'm not going to give it to you.
It's just mean.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Mandy, take three oreos, mash them up and put them
in a mason jar, poor enough whole milk to cover.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
Put it in the microwave.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
For two minutes and thirty seconds. That's a lot. My
microwave would incinerate that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
My brother goes to Cuba with a group of doctors
without borders. Each year, the common income there twenty five
dollars a month.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
Even if tourists visit and give them.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
Cash, they still can't spend over their monthly allowance at
the grocery store. Of course they can't, because socialism and
meanisms were awesome. Last thing I've got for you today,
And this is not good for people who use marijuana for.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
Anything.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
A team of psychiatrists performed a detailed analysis on fifteen
years of cannabis research and found not only that medical
marijuana doesn't seem to help people with acute pain or insomnia,
which proponents often tout, but that almost a third of
medical weed users are abusing the drug. The findings were
published in the Journey, a Journal of American Medicine. They

(01:33:35):
will likely further fuel the ongoing debate whether states went
too far with legalization and it comes at a wild moment,
just as President Donald Trump signaled this week he'll loosen
federal restrictions on weed. Mandy, my wife isn't listening, But
do you have any ideas for a weekend getaway after Christmas? Okay,

(01:33:56):
if a weekend getaway after Christmas, You've got tons of options.
I would recommend a weekend at Mount Princeton Hot Springs,
one of my favorites. That way, you don't have to
go down I seventy. That's critical during ski season. I
want to stay away from I seventy. You can go
down to Manitou Springs and stay at the Cliffhouse, which
is lovely love Manitoo Springs They've got a little hot

(01:34:17):
springs business there where you can go and do a soak.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Love that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
See, I'm hot spring centric in the winter. You know,
it really depends on what your wife likes. Are you
talking about like a flyaway?

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
I need more information. Email me Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia
dot com. I'll give you the answers.

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
Search X for Oreo blowtorch. You will see they have
so many chemicals.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
They don't burn gross.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
They are a chemical poof storm, unlike the delicious and
original Hydrux cookies that were put out of business by
Big Cookie years ago. Yes, Big Cookie is a thing, Mandy.
What a great idea for Halloween costume next year? A
package of chemical poopstorm Oreos?

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
There you go to this texture? Still super sure?

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
We hate it too, friends, we hate it too.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
You guys think we don't, Mandy, chicken gun ya sounds
like a Southern dish, it kind of does?

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:35:20):
It really does? Did the US figure out that they
have oil in Cuba or something?

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
I know?

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
Oh, Mandy, I'm a Hyghdrox fan forever because they're delicious
epidemiological Thank you Texter.

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
Thank you. I appreciate you, Mandy from our town.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
Does anyone ever realize that while they live it every
every minute, Saints and Poets may be some backstory of
the guy who ate oreos for three days. We're going
to get into this because I need to know backstory.
I used to deliver to the Oreo factory in Denver.
I always ask for samples. One day they gave me
a cat of oreos. After leaving, I drove to Seattle

(01:36:03):
outside Boising.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
My truck broke down.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
I sat on the side of US thirty for seven
hours waiting for a record. I snacked on oreos while waiting.
When I got to the repair shop, my company bought
me a hotel, but forgot to advance me two hundred
and nine dollars for meals. All I had to eat
was oreos. And you know what that Ryan Edwards likes
oreos because they're they're vegan.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
Are vegan? I do know that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
Yeah, every vegan I know knows that oreos are vegan.
I'm like, ooh, vegan food and they're like, oreos are vegan. Yeah,
chemical poop storm.

Speaker 8 (01:36:34):
It's one of our our rare and I'm not vegan.
Any you I'm vegetarian, but but it's one of the
rare brags. But as again an acknowledgement, like not all
vegan or vegetarian food is health food.

Speaker 5 (01:36:45):
It's it's like some people get that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
The the what's the donut place, Voodoo Donuts, they're vegan.

Speaker 8 (01:36:51):
Yeah, not health food, No, not at all, amazing, Yeah,
not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:36:56):
And I know you've talked about beyond meat and as
well as impossible beat.

Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
We know, we all know, not health food, no, not
at all.

Speaker 8 (01:37:04):
So but for the people that can't have red meat, ye,
it's it's it's a passable thing.

Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
Yeah, it is. And that's that's really what it's kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
You know, sometimes a passable thing is the best you
can do. So, what's coming up on KA Sports today?

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Ryan?

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
Oh, we have so much fun gearbls right off the.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
Top, of course, because these interviews. I cannot wait to
hear from him.

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
He's he's gonna be between bon Nicks or maybe the
overdogs underdogs the underdogs. I don't think so, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
I wouldn't tell Garrett Bolls he was an underdog against
the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
He's going to be on fire. I can't wait. They
should be Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:37:37):
And then we got Shelby, Who's always fun, and then
Rod Smith's studio.

Speaker 5 (01:37:41):
Oh my god, some of my favorites on the show today.
And now it's time.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
For the most exciting segment on the radio of it's.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Kind in the world of the day. All right, what
is our dad joke of the day?

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
This got passed on to me. This, I guess came
from Silver Creek High schooler Christian Nice. Why was E
the only letter in the alphabet to get Christmas presents?

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
I don't know, because the rest of the letters are not. Eh,
that's pretty dang good. I like that. I'm gonna tell that.
What is the saltiest Oh? Sorry, go ahead, word of
the first time?

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Here?

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Ryan adjective conversant. Oh you you're you're able to talk? Well, yeah,
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
I'm not really describe someone who has knowledge or knowledge
of or experience with something.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
Okay, Now, what is the saltiest ocean on Earth? Ocean?
Key here? Atlantic?

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
You are correct in the dark. Several factors affect ocean salinity.
Ocean regions with more of rainfall have lower salinity because.

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
Of the fresh lane. Blah blah blah, it's the Atlantic
go ahead. What is our jeopardy category. We're gonna have
some fun with us.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
We're gonna change it up. It's a spell. Oh gosh,
is the twist for today? Fix it up a little.
There are no negative points. You can say your name
and then you have to say the word. If you
don't spell it right, the other person gets a chance
to steal.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
Okay, it seems fair.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
So it's a two for here. So you got to
get the word and then spell it. If you don't
spell it right, the other person gets a chance. Adjective
for lines that are the same distance apart at every
point along their whole length.

Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
Manny, what is parallel E A R A L L
E N. That is correct?

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
You get one of these as a record for paying
a bill. Don't forget the silent letter?

Speaker 5 (01:39:35):
What is receipt R E C I E. Ryan, They're wrong,
you know it's receipt?

Speaker 8 (01:39:43):
Spell it R E C I E P T.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
Also the same ways. She just did it wrong. Also
E I PC those words I spell it? No negative
is still one? Nothing matter?

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Right, Let's go a chest of drawers or a government agency. Ryan,
no word first. I was gonna say dresser, but I'm
wrong correct, Manny. What is a bureau you r E
A U That is direct? Yeah, it's the CEA that
surrounds Jamaica and Cuba.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
Manny, what is the Caribbean C C A R R
I B and oh day?

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Hey you know it's Caribbean, right, C A R I
B B E A N correct?

Speaker 5 (01:40:25):
Hey two?

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
One?

Speaker 5 (01:40:26):
Okay, here we go. You knew this was coming.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Tagalog is a principal language of this country, made up
of more than seven thousand islands.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
What are the Philippines p H I L I P
P I N E S.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
That is correct? One.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
That was a fun category Like that means my brain
hurt a little bit. I'm not gonna lie like the
double dose?

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Was that?

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
Wait? That's great.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
I am excited for the show. I can't wait to
get my car in here. Garrett Bowles, that's all coming
up next. We'll be back tomorrow. We got weather Wednesday,
the last one of the year with our man Day
free plus, We're going to have Representative Scott Bottoms on
to talk about a claim that Victor Marks made during
his interview with Ryan Today, which you should listen to.
It is linked on the Blog Today from Ryan Schulings show,

(01:41:12):
check it out.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
We'll be back tomorrow. Keep it on, KOA