Hour 3 - Jon Caldara Host

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five minutes after good afternoon. I'm John Caldera in for
a vacationing Mandy Connell. Give me a call three oh three,
seven to one, three eighty five eighty five. So I've
had this brilliant idea. The NFL is all about equity.
You see them talking about diversity. You see it on
the helmets, you see it on the sidelines. You see
all these little slogans. Well, that's that's wonderful. That's wonderful.

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They have rules such as, if you're going to hire
a new coach, you have to have to interview a
coach of color. That's right, you have to. You have
to look at someone who is a minority to be
your head coach. It's it's the rule. Even if there's

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no one you want to hire of color, it doesn't matter.
So my thought was this, you know what, if the
NFL truly leaves in diversity, then it should have some
sort of racial goals for who's on the field, that

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is their team. Every team should represent the same percentage
as as the American society. You know, maybe in Denver,
since it's for Colorado, we take with Colorado statistics and

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we have to have X number of Caucasian players. The
next would be what like twenty percent Hispanic players and
maybe seven percent black players. That would be the way,

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that would be the way we should we should mandate it.
Hollywood has something called diversity writers. A diversity writer is
a contract writer that says, if you're going to do
this movie, and you want me to start it, you're
going to have to hire so many minorities throughout the

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entire process. Means we need a certain number of minority
makeup artists and stuntmen and line producers and gaffers and
lighting guys and sound guys and prop masters because we
want to we want more equity. Well, since the NFL
seems to be buying into that every place but on

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the field, my simple suggestion is they do it on
the field. There has to be a racial proportion on
the field that matches American society at large. How could
you not support this idea? What are you a bigot

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or something?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Three?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Or three seven to one three five? Let's go to
the phones. Hey, Mike, welcome, you're with John Kelderol Well, Mike, you.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Can hear me, I can hi, So you know, as
the topic of equity comes up, and actually I like
the idea of people reimbursing for they're paid education when
they make a ton of money.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
But today.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Equity is not equity. It's the reinvigoration of segregation. It's
let's be different and be called out separate. And I
think it's the worst movement. It's more divisive now than
it's ever been because it's segregate us and let us
blm all these things. Let's be different and be called
different and be separated. That's what is brewing.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
So I believe identity politics in America is the most
dangerous social movement of our time.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Absolutely, that.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
We have a society that we have built over the
course of two hundred and fifty years where you are
who you make yourself, that you come from, wherever you
come from, and through your talents and yes, a certain
amount of luck, you create your own biography. And you're

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not your skin color, you are not your genitals, You're
not what you think your genitals should be. You are
what you create yourself. And identity politics turns that on
its head and says, no, you are your skin tone,
you are your genitals. You are what you do in bed.
That's who you are, not your accomplishments, not what you create.

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It's this, and furthermore, we will give you extra societal
prestige points depending on how many victim boxes you can choose.
So if you're a woman, you can say, oh, I've
been discriminated as being a woman, but I'm also a
black woman. Oh that's good. Then it's two. Well I'm

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a black woman who's a lesbian, Well that's three. While
I'm a left handed black lesbian. Well that's four. Well
I'm also in a wheelchair. Well that's five. And what
you end up doing is people's status increases by how
much they claim victimhood, rather than your status increasing by

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your accomplishment, by what you've created, exactly. And I just
find that fact that to be so un American and
so dangerous and so cancerous to the human soul.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Amen, we have a society where you can work hard
and do whatever you want and stop using your race
as a crutch. And actually it's only aggravating whites at
this point because of exactly what you're talking about. And
you know what, you have the right to go out
out and work hard and do what you want and

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exactly make your biography about what you do and.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Not your crutch, so right now, mind you, that doesn't
mean we don't work to make sure everyone has a
shot at writing their own biography. It doesn't mean we
stand for anything that puts hurdles up in front of it,
and we've got a history full of hurdles. But to
turn it into say you are, imagine what that does

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to a poor child's mind. You go, you are a
black kid, so you're already born a victim, and it
is so systemic you have no choice but to embrace
your victimhood. What exactly the hell does that do to
a child's soul, to their self esteem, to their sense

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of self, to their ability to self direct a life.
It is sick. It is child abuse.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
And who wants to be granted a job based on
affirmative action. You weren't the best applicants, you weren't the
best resume, but we had to talk to you and
we got to do something now.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
And yeah, it's imagine going, imagine going to your black
doctor and going, hmmm, are you here because you're good?
Or is it here because you're your skin and color?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
And that exactly that.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Only perpetuates racism. All right, thanks for the call. We're
on the same page. I appreciate it. I say we
we demand parody, equitable racial parody on the Denver Broncos team,
and then we'll see how they do tomorrow. I'm John Caldera.
Three oh three, seven to one, three eight five, eight five,
keep it here. You're on KOWA eighteen minutes after good

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even good evening, good afternoon. I'm John Caldera. All right,
I I enjoy I hate to say it, watching Saturday
Night Lives Weekend Update. They're socialist hacks, I get it,
but they're often pretty funny and I enjoy it and
tuned in to watch it. Sad I watch it on YouTube,

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and I watched it and something really struck me. The
host of the fake newscast did one of his fake stories,
and then he went into a joke about the killer
of the United Healthcare CEO. You know this terrible assassination

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that happened in Manhattan just a little while ago. And
what was weird about it was he put up the
picture of the killer and said the guy's name. But
before he could get his joke out, the crowd erupted

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in applause. Let me say this again. The crowd erupted
in applause and excitement in what I took as support
for this murderer. It was really perverse. So let me
see if I can play this this FORO. You listen

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to it as he as he finishes one joke and
then he's gonna go in and go to the next one.
This last joke has Trump and Musk and P Diddy
in it. Let's listen in.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Luigi Mangi, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Definitely woo.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
You're wouing for justice, right, Luigi Mai dropped his extradition
fight and was flown.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
From all right, let me let me just do that
one again because I just found that so bizarre and weird.
You you hear the crowd's reaction as if, you know,
as if some famous star just sat down next to
him and you know, and they were all excited. So

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Scarlett Johansson happens to be the guy's wife sat down
next to him. I'm sure the crowd will go, wow,
look this is someone we love. Yay, And that's exactly
what I heard from from this. Let's skip through that
part here. Oh what did I do? I hit something else? Good? Gosh, good, golly,

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miss Molly. Anyway, that's what I found so very bizarre.
Let's see I can do this again.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Here, Donald Trump get re elected president and Elon Musk
appoint himself co president. I listen to this next year,
next cheer. Here we will see all three of those guys.
Atl's fifth anniversary.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's funny, all right? Here comes the what it got me?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Luigi Mangione?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Drop? What what was that? What was that? People are
screaming in support of a murderer? Does? Does that not

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scare you? Let me add to this. Here's an AP story.
Most Americans blame insurance profits and denials alongside the killer
in the United Healthcare CEO death poll fines. Here's the
story from the AP. Most Americans believe health insurance profits

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and coverage denials share responsibility for killing of United Healthcare
ce although not as much as the person who pulled
the trigger. According to a new poll, What upside down Bizarro?

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Violent world? Are we living in? The health insurance companies
are responsible, but not as much for the killing of
this person whoa But it just gets weirder. In a
survey from narc at the University of Chicago, about eight

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in ten US adults, eighty percent of us said the
person who committed the killing. This guy named Luigi Mangione,
the person who committed the killing, has quote a great
deal or a moderate amount of responsibility for the December

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fourth shooting. Xxcuse me, I've seen the videotape. This one
individual pulls out a handgun, shoots this man several times

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in the back, and he has a moderate amount of
responsibility for the shooting of Brian Thompson. And then they
go on. Despite that. Some have cast Luigi Mangione, the
twenty six year old suspect charged with the murder, as

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a heroic figure in the aftermath of his arrest, which
gave rise to an outpouring of grievances about insurance companies.
Police say the word delay, deny, and depose were scrawled
on the ammunition investigators found at the scene, echoing a
phrase commonly used to describe ensure tactics to avoid paying claims.

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Is this how we deal with things? Now? This is
a outburst, a temper tantrum, going after a single person
for for costs of health care? Might I try something else?

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The cost of healthcare has been piling up ever since Obamacare.
Obamacare causes health insurance companies to be smack dab in
the middle of what they must cover and what they
cannot cover. And if somebody shot Obama in the back

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and the ammunition casings said deny to pose and delay
on it. Do you think that guy would be getting cheers. No,
he'd be condemned the way he should be. This is
truly perverse. Help me understand it. Three oh three seven one,
three eight five eighty five. I'm John Caldera in for Mandy.
Keep it here, you're on cue b bump, bump, bump bump.

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I'm waiting for this to turn into something. Oh, Van Morrison,
there we go. My favorite concert film is The Band's
Last Waltz, and Van Morrison plays on it and he

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seems like a real jerk. Neil Young plays in that
concert as well. I never really liked Neil Young, and
he had something hanging out of his nose for his
entire performance, so I just couldn't watch anything other than that.
But it was the best concert film ever. Oh the Band. Hey,

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I'm John Caldera. Give me a call. Three or three
seven one, three eight five eighty five. I just gave
you the poll numbers that eighty percent of Americans think
that the killer is moderately responsible for the killing. Oh
my god, no wonder we're so messed up when there

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is absolutely no accountability for personal actions and that when
you have a disagreement, you can just go ahead and
shoot somebody in the middle of the street. Remember when
Trump said, Hey, I'm president, I could shoot somebody in
the middle of the street and still have immunity. And

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technically he's right. While he's president, doesn't mean that there
won't be a political fallout and doesn't mean he won't
be arrested afterwards, doesn't mean he won't be impeached and removed.
But here people are happy that this CEO is assassinated.

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I played for you a clip from Saturday Night Live
when the weekend Update guy merely put the picture of
the killer on and said his name, and the crowd
went wild, like like they just saw Eric Clapton walk
on stage. All right, let's go to some phone calls.
Three h three seven to one, three eighty five, eighty five,

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Hey Van, welcome.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Hi John. I agree too that it is absurd that
we think the killer is not responsible. It made me
think of when there's a shooting with the gun gun
control people point to the gun to the gun seller

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into a gun manufacturer as to blame.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, it's the same sort of craziness. Listen to this
from the AP story. About seven in ten adults, seventy
percent of us say that denials for health care coverage
by insurance companies or the profits made by health insurance
companies also bear at least quote a moderate amount of

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responsibility for the man's death. Younger Americans are particularly likely
to see the murder as the result of a confluence
of forces rather than just one person's actions. This is
terrifying to me. This is terrifying that we have raised

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our kids to believe that people aren't solely responsible for
their own actions. But there's some sort of societal justification
if if you don't like the company you're doing business with.
I help me, help me understand this. I mean, this

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is this is when I say terrifying. I'm I'm not
over saying that for for effect. When people think, oh, yeah,
he's you know, he's mostly responsible for that, but the
guy's own company is moderately responsible for his death.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Wow, lack of personal accountability is touching all aspects of
our lives.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
And I hate to say this, but I I know
it to be true in my bones. There are single
payer healthcare advocates, government controlled healthcare advocates who are rubbing
their hands at this murder. They're going here, we go
just as we planned. Because what happens is they create

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these laws that make private businesses look like the bad guys.
So they put in they put in Obamacare takes away
pre existing conditions and using Medicaid money to do this,
forces insurance companies to accept all this stuff, which means

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it's going to cost us a lot of money. And therefore,
who's going to get blamed Not Obama, not Congress, not
the government for creating this system, but the healthcare companies,
which are now basically just utilities run by the government.

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There's no not that big of a difference between United
Healthcare and Excel Energy. They're basically close to monopolies, and
it's created by government policy. Now, if these people who
are pulled we're more economically and politically intuned, maybe they'd
say that, yes, the shooter is mostly responsible, but Obama

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deserves at least a moderate amount of blame for this.
None of them say that it's the company. Let me
give you one more case in point Colorado has something
called a hospital bed tax. We never got to vote
on it, so they call it a fee. By calling
it a fee, Sorry about that van who lost you

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by calling it a fee. People didn't have to vote
on it. So when you go to a hospital, you
are paying an extra tax when you stay over at
a hospital. And this tax, which they like to call
a fee, is used to pay for Medicaid for Obamacare,

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so your cost at the hospital goes up. But by now,
listen carefully, this is right. So you didn't get to
vote on this tax increase. The Colorado legislature passed it.
Governor hicken Luperter signed it into law, knowing full well
it would never pass at the ballot box. And when
you get your hospital bill, by law, they cannot line

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item that tax. So you're looking at your hospital bill
and you go, man, this is expensive and there's nothing
that says yes, this five percent here, that's a government
tax that you didn't get to vote on. No, there's
nothing there on your invoice. By law, hospitals need to

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hide this bed tax in your bill. They cannot line
item it. Instead of mandating that at be there, they
mandate they hide it. So who are you angry at
and you get out of the hospital and the cost
is outrageous. You look at the bill. Who do you
get angry at. You don't get angry at the Colorado

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legislature and the single payer advocates there and the guys
who want government control of healthcare. No, you get angry
at the hospital, but they're not the ones that cause
that increase. So you might go out and assassinate the
head of the hospital instead of assassinating the politician who

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made it happen. And no, make it clear, I'm not
advocating that, but that's how devious, deceptive, duplicitous big government
progressives are. And it's not by accident, it's by plan.

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And that's why I say there are people rubbing their
hands together in excitement about this murder because their plan
is working. People are frustrated with companies that are just
doing what the law requires them to do now instead
of those who passed the outlandish laws. You remember, though,

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don't you, that Obamacare was gonna save you money. You
remember the great promise of if you like your health
care provider, you can keep your healthcare provider. If you
like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. And we
are going to make healthcare what what's the magic word affordable?

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It was called the health Care Affordability Act, the American
health Care Affordability Act. Wow. So not only are people
just delightfully ignorant of why the costs are so high,

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but this has been staged in such a way that
you get angry at the companies, not the bureaucrats, not
the politicians who create the system. And now seven and
ten say that the insurance companies bear at least a

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moderate amount of responsibility for this murder. Younger Americans are
particularly likely to see the murder as a result of
a confluence of forces, rather than just one person's action.
Let me continue from the ap story. Americans under thirty
are especially likely to think a mix of factors is

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to blame for Thompson's death. They say that insurance company
denials and profits are about as as responsible as Thompson's
killer for his death. Remember, these are the people going
to be taking care of you in the home. Americans

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under thirty are likely to say the insurance company is
as responsible as the guy who pulled the trigger. No
wonder they love gun control laws, No wonder they want
government control of everything. From birth until death, because individuals

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are not responsible for their own actions, that the company
this guy worked for was as responsible as the murderer himself.
Now I get it. Every generation thinks the next generation
has messed up values. But these are dangerously messed up values.

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Three h threety seven one three eighty five eighty five
seven to one three eighty five eighty five continue on
young people reading from the ap story. Young people are
also the least likely age group to say a great
deal quote great deal of responsibility falls on the person
who committed the killing. Only four in ten say that.

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Sixty percent of people under thirty don't believe that the
killer has a great deal of responsibility for the murder
he committed. No wonder, no wonder that people in the
studios watching Saturday Night Live's Weekend Update when they saw

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this guy on the screen cheered in crazy excitement. Yeah
did you hear that? How else do you explain that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, definitely wo you're wooing for justice?

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Right?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
All right? You know, I get a late night parody
show is made to have off color jokes. I'm not
I'm not making anything about that. It was the reaction
even before they heard any joke of seeing this guy's
picture and the excitement that they have for him. It's

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bizarre looking at a protester holds up a sign awaiting
the arrival of the killer for his arrangement at a
Manhattan criminal court, and the sign says innocent and proven guilty,
saying that he really didn't do it. Other ones holding

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up signs that say deny, defend, depose. Yeah, just so
you know, your healthcare costs are gonna go skyrocketing now,

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insurance companies, maybe they'll pay out more. What does that
mean that you're gonna get charged more? What I love
about the left, What I truly admire about the left
is how long term oriented they are compared to the right.

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The right sees victories in terms of the next election. Hey,
Trump won We he's gonna solve everything. Oh no, he's not.
Even if Trump was as powerful as a king in
four years, he is not going to reverse the course
of eighty years of a socialistic torrent coming down since FDR.

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You're not going to in four years be able to
undo the societal change and the governmental takeover of nearly
every aspect of our lives in four years. But you know,
people think that, and that's it's a good start. Don't
get me wrong, I'm happy, But the left thinks in
terms of decades Obama passed Obamacare. They're not stupid. They

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knew full well it was only a step towards single payer,
government run healthcare Allah Canada. It just takes time, and
they keep pushing, and they keep pushing, and now the
architects of that plan and looking at this going here
is our useful idiot, as good looking young man who

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kills healthcare executives because they're parts of the evil private
healthcare system. It couldn't be working out better for healthcare
socialists who take the very wonderful long view of societal

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change three or three seven to one, three eight two
five five seven to one three talk and am I
wrong on any of this? Is someone brave enough to
tell me that, you know, really, the healthcare companies do
bear irresponsibility?

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Here?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Can can you make that argument coherently? And if you do,
if you believe that healthcare companies deserve responsibility partial responsibility
for this cold blooded murder shooting someone in the back,

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then will you use the same logic and say that
governmental mandates in insurance cause this murder too, or is
it just one of these things. You see it the
way you see it, and you'll never never change. We

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are on a path to government controlled healthcare. We basically
have government controlled healthcare. It's just that it is contracted
out to a handful of companies. Think about it in Colorado.
Colorado's mandates are so terrible and it is so difficult

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to do business that insurance companies keep packing out and leaving.
They keep going, No, it's not worth the trouble, it's
not worth the mandates, it's not worth the price. We
can't make money here, so we're going to go someplace else,
which means we have fewer companies, less competition, and your

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healthcare costs go up and go up and go up.
Same thing is happening in California. The mandated payouts are
too high. Companies cannot stay afloat, and they find it
cost effective to stop to stop doing business, so they leave,

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which only brings up the cost. Colorado is one of
the most expensive places in the country to leave to live.
Why because government messes with everything. Government has urban growth boundaries.
These urban growth boundaries make it impossible to build new homes.

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House housing is expensive. Food is expensive. Energy now is
going to get really expensive. Let's see if we can
squeeze Dave in before we have to say goodbye.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Dave.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Welcome. You're with John Caldera.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Hey John, real quick, look, because I know it's short
on time. I retired ten years ago got Obamacare for
my wife and myself. We were both healthy at fifty
one and fifty three. Our premium was seven hundred thirty
dollars the first year nine forty, the second fourteen hundred

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to third, and our out of pocket was eighty five
hundred apiece, which means that you have to pay all
that money plus eighty five one hundred dollars to get
Obama Care to pay anything. So I was paying twenty
four grand a year for basically nothing. So I got
out of it and I went to direct pay Concierge.

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Medicine cost myself and for my wife and myself one
hundred and nineteen dollars a month. We get almost complete
care up to the point of needing to go to
the emergency room or hospital for anything from or doctor.
If there's anything extra that needs to be done by him,
he has a printed price sheet. And on top of that,

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we supplemented that with catastrophic meta share, which is one
of the healthcare systems allowed under Obamacare, is written, it
cost US five hundred and sixty two dollars a month.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Okay, so let mee if I got this right, you
started at roughly seven hundred and forty bucks. Within a
couple of years that double to fourteen. And now now
you've you've you've junked at all. You've gone with a
concierge's membership type of doctor. If they need other services,
you pay for that, and you got catastrophic care at

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about five hundred dollars a month. Do you feel pretty
good about it? I think he does feel pretty good
about it. That makes sense. Hey, check out the Independence
Institute go to thinkfreedom dot org. Bandy, thanks for letting
me sit in for you. I'm John Caldera and you
you're on Kowa