November 16, 2021 • 34 mins
A racially charged complaint rocks the Ahmaud Arbery murder trial, Ronny Chieng debates passersby about Thanksgiving, and Ai Weiwei discusses "1000 Years of Joys and Sorrows."
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Comedy Central. So today a third of
the Internet was down for about an hour. Spotify, Discord, Snapchat,
et see, all sort of sites were down. And then
they said it was because like the Google Cloud thing
was just like not working. And I didn't even want
to get into the details because I don't know about
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you guys, but I used to think that the Internet
was very impressive, because I used to think that the
Internet was like a magical thing, like everyone just be like,
we're on the Internet, the Internet. What is the Internet?
It's just the Internet is happening. But like more and
more we're realizing the Internet is just like just like
a really big desktop at Jeff bezos house essentially, and
then if he trips on a chord, we can't check
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our emails. That's what the Internet is. We think it's cool,
but it's like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, and then like that's
basically it. That's that's the Internet. It's in somebody's basement.
The turn off the basement. Your life has gone. Huh No, Spotify,
now you're out there. No music people were out there
today just just humming to themselves. Doo doo, Yeah, where's
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your play this now? Bitch, because the cloud it's not
the Also, the cloud, the cloud doesn't make it sound safe.
Right when they go like it's in the cloud, It's like,
what is a cloud? It's this thing that's in the
sky that like just sometimes evaporates and disappears. Sometimes it's
they're sometimes it's not there. That's where my information is.
I remember when that ship first came out there, like
everything of yours is in the cloud. Then I was like,
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even my pigs. And then on like cloudy days, I
look up and I'll be like, all right, I'm confident,
and then the clouds will start parting and I'll be like,
all right, maybe it's in the other cloud. Thank God, Oh,
thank you Jesus. That was close. Coming to you from
the herd of Times in New York City, the only
city in America. It's The Daily Tonight, Russia de plays
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war on space, Thanksgiving is wrong? High Wait wait, it's
the Daily Show with Forever. Hey, what's going on? Everybody?
Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noa and joining
me for today's headlines is my good friend. Don't say, Sloan,
what's going on? They'll say, Hey, man, I've delivered the ground. Baby,
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I like that. That's like, you know, before we used
to say that just as a saying, but now it's
like a real thing. You're really above the ground, truly,
Like I don't know how high we are, but we're
not supposed to be up here. We shouldn't like clients. Well,
I mean, what good to have you? Thank you. All right,
let's jump straight into today's headlines. Let's kick things off
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with a surprising new side effect of COVID nineteen. And
this isn't a physical side effect like shortness of breath
or loss of smell or masque is where the elastic
loops make me look like Obama's secret son. No, this
is a side effect of how COVID has become a
political football are as Americans call it a political soccer.
But yeah. Basically, it turns out that once conservatives got
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angry about having to protect the selves from one disease,
they decided to do it with other diseases as a
matter of general principle. New polls out suggest Republicans are
much less likely to get a flu shot now than
they were before the COVID pandemic. Several national polls say
there was not much difference between the number of Republicans
and Democrats are getting a flu shot in the years
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before the coronavirus pandemic. However, Business Insider is reporting there's
now a gap between the members of the two political parties.
About two thirds of Democrats say they have or planned
to get a flu vaccination, while for Republicans that number
is less than fifty Researchers say that indicates the political
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battle over the covid vaccine is now affecting flu shots
as well. Yeah, that's right. Many Republicans have turned against
the covid vaccine so hard, then now they're turning against
the flu shots. And look what the covid vaccine. I
get it, I get it. It was new. People didn't
trust the technology. But guys, the flu shot has been
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around since forever. You can't decide now to hate It
would be like if everyone suddenly decided to hate Betty White.
I mean, we're all cool with her for a hundred
and forty years. What changed? And if you ask me,
this is a selfish decision. Because people who don't get
the flu shot spread the infection to everyone. They sneeze
into the air that we breathe. They grabbed the door
knobs that we grabbed, they touched the subway polls that
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the rest of us lick. It's disgusting. That's why I'm
getting my flu shot for sure. I'm gonna space it
out from my COVID shot. You know, I don't have
two shots close to each other, Otherwise they're both going
to be there in my body at the same time.
They might start a turf war. She starts popping off
in my pancreas. Now it's the cross fire. I don't
want that ship, you know, trying to keep it safe
in my body, which already feels like we're moving to
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a place where all of science is going to become partisant.
That's what it feels like like in a few years,
you're gonna hear news reports like Democrats are sticking by gravity,
but many Republicans say they're not interested anymore. Poles show
that up to forty Republicans are now float and off
into space. And now do say over to you in
the weather, it's not as warm as this ship, because
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I got to wear a coat and put my toes away,
and I don't appreciate it. Just this covid flu thing
is wild, really good. Thing about this, because now if
we don't want them to do things, we could just
threaten to vaccinate them. What do you mean, like if
they try to storm the Capitol again, just be a
bunch of cops to be like, sorry, if you come
across that line, we will vaccinate you. Don't make us
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make this flu shi it air, Sir, sir, hauld them down.
Hit him in the net. Like now you just got
cops running around with needles. Just a bunch of rogue
nurses out here trying to help the like, just trying
to help the government. I think you've just stumbled upon
the next wave of American lawin force. This is actually
pretty good. All right, Let's move on. Let's move on
from the war in science to the war and out
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of space, because yesterday Russia woke up and decided to
make things much more dangerous up there than it needs
to be. Now to a conflict in space. The US
is slamming Russia for carrying out a missile test that
created a serious amount of dangerous space debris which could
remain in orbit for decades, threatening space travel. Leaven This morning,
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outrage from US officials after Russia carried out a missile
test early Monday, firing an anti satellite missile into space,
obliterating one of its own satellites and creating a vast
debris field that's now orbiting Earth, some of that debris
coming dangerously close to the International Space Station, which is
currently carrying for US astronauts. The crew sheltering for more
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than two hours until they were finally given the green light.
Secretary of State Anthony Blinken slamming the Russian missile test,
calling it dangerous and irresponsible, and adding that the debris
will remain a threat for decades. Russia blew up a
satellite with a rockets and guys, I keep saying this,
but these gender reveals are getting out of hand. But
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for real, though, I don't know the time why Russia
blew up their own satellites. I mean, maybe it was
announcing that it was running against Putin, who knows. But
but there's gotta be a better way to do this.
I mean, if you want to get rid of something,
you just do what New Yorkers do. Drag it to
the sidewalk and leave a big free sign on it,
you know, but people blowing it up so it sends
lethal debris shooting around in orbit. That's unacceptable, guys. And
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if you ask me, someone needs to stand up to Russia,
like maybe America should start some sort of force to
like defend space. You know what's that? Oh? It did?
H And I called it the most pointless thing since
Trump created Don JR. Nah, that doesn't sound like me.
All right, thank you, thank you. Well, look, man, this
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is one thing I love about America. America would never
launch a missile at a satellite. I mean, they tried,
but it accidentally hit a wedding in Syria. But the
point is they didn't hit the satellite. All right, let's
move on to a threat that is closer to earth
vigilante white dudes. Yesterday, the arguments at the Kyle Rittenhouse
trial wrapped up, and now the jury has to decide
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whether he'll go to prison or become Trump's running mates. Meanwhile,
down in Georgia, they've begun the murder trial for the
three men charged with chasing down and killing Ahmad Aubrey
last year. Now, for obvious reasons, this trial is getting
a lot of national attention. But the lawyer for one
of the defendants, well, he seems to have a big
problem with who is paying attention an explosive morning in
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the trial of the three men accused of murdering him
on Arebury, with a still smoldering racially charged debate spurred
on by defense attorneys over black pastors in the courtroom.
Defense attorney Kevin gov objecting to Reverend Jesse Jackson's presence
in the gallery, how many pastors does our very family have? Um,
we had the Reverend how Sharp been here earlier last week?
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Which pastors next? Is Raphael Warnock gonna make it be
the next person appearing this afternoon? We don't know. With
all due respect your arm the seats in the public
gallery report room are not like courtside seats in the
Lakers game, all right. First of all, of course, this
trial is not like a Lakers game. Right. The jury
has eleven white people and only one black guy. That's
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basically the opposite of any basketball team. And secondly, I'm
not saying that this guy is racist, but when you're
representing a guy who killed a black man just for
jogging in the wrong neighborhood, it's not a great look
to be pointing into the gallery and going, Hey, this
black guy doesn't belong here. We should do something about that.
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Come on, Jasper, you want to do it again. And Thirdly,
black pastas have been supporting families in need from the
beginning of time. Why are you shocked by this? They
show up everything. Whether it's kids killed in gang violence,
whether it's a civil rights issue, it doesn't matter what
it is. They'll show up. Hell, if you need them,
they'll even show up for emotional support at your kids
spelling be Lord Jesus, please show this dumb little kid
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how to spell platypus. His family has been through enough.
Amen and Amen, what I'm confused about? Listen, I grew
up in Georgia. Everybody is a pastor. Uh, everybody's What
are you talking about that? You don't want pastors here?
Everybody George is a pastor. Also, how am I supposed
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to trust a Southern white man that don't want the
Lord in the room. You don't want one of God's servants. Yeah,
you're right. I don't get it. It'd be different if
like Jesse Jackson's in there taking up a collection for
a building fund. So they're not taking up a collection.
It's not like they're in there preaching. It could have
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been way worse. They could have brought a whole choiir
in there with them, because if I'm a black pastor
coming to that trial, I'm bringing a whole black I
bring in a whole choir and tambouris. They're gonna that
gil chet, that gil check. That's what I'm doing. If
I'm a black pastor down there, I'm bringing a choir
in and being like George, tell y'all, neighbor, and say, neighbor,
this man is guilty. Oh yeah, I would start assertment
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every time I walked into place. They're just sitting there
being quiet. It's a he said. It's a public gallery. Yes,
they are the public. Anybody can show up, you could
go all right. And finally, yesterday President Biden held a
ceremony on the White House lawn along with Democrats and
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Republicans from Congress, and they were doing this to finally
sign his big infrastructure bill. And guys, I really am
confused about why they have to sign the bill in public.
I mean, I know it's important legislation, but as a
spectator sport, it's pretty boring, you know, like, where's the drama?
You know, maybe the pen will run out of ink here. Man. Also,
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why are they even having a bill, signing, celebration, passing
laws is their job. Nobody else gets to do that
at their job. Like after you make photo copies for
your boss at the office, you don't get to post
for pictures while shaking hands. I didn't think you could
get a double sided well done, Billy, well done. But look,
I get why lawmakers are excited about. This is the
biggest investment America has made in itself in decades. And
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there's also some smaller things in this bill that might
do a lot of good. How to stop drunk drivers
before they even put the car into gear. It has
been talked about for decades, but now, thanks to the
Infrastructure Bill passed by Congress last week, it could finally happen.
It includes a mandate for automakers that all new cars
must use technology that prevents drunken people from driving. It
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will be as standard as airbags. The US Transportation Department
will decide the type of technology that will be required.
It's estimated hundred lines will be saved every year. The
drunk or otherwise and pair driver will get in their
car and it either won't start, won't move, or pull
itself over, depending on what technology is selected. The sober
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driver will get in their car and never even know
it's there. All right, I think we can all agree
this is an amazing law, first of all because it
will hopefully save lives. A secondly, because some people will
be so drunk they won't even know that the car
hasn't started. You realize that, right, it's gonna get in
and get out of the way, Get out of all right,
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I'm home Now, why my homeworks? That's like the bar alright, guys,
a type of around two. And I know some people
are asking, how will they develop technology to determine if
someone is drunk? What does that mean? Guys? We already
have that technology. It's called the karaoke machine number for real.
No one is show what technology they'll actually use to
detect if you're drunk driving, right. It could be something
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that tracks if your eyes stay open, or if you're
swerving out of your lane, or if you're just trying
to get to a taco bell. I just hope it's
not a breathalyzer. That's the one thing I hope. I
don't want to breathalyze a hope to the dashboard because
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to give my car every
time I want to go somewhere. I want to save
that for special occasions, you know, like our anniversary or
a Toyota. Thought. There is one huge loophole in this law, though,
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and that is it only needs to be available in
new cars. Yeah, I mean that's still good, but it
means if someone really likes drunk driving, all they're gonna
do is drive an old car. In fact, at some
point we're probably gonna be able to tell who's committed
to drunk driving because it's gonna be like twenty six
and they'll still be driving a Kia sorrental from two
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thousand and five. Yeah, you just can't give this baby up. Man,
you know me, I love vintage cars here, just a
better friends like having something like you've never had to
take your keys like your friend's kids before. I mean,
I know you have very classy, very you know, sophisticated,
you know. And that's that's an interesting point. So you're
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saying the best technology is friends, Yes, like the number
of times I've stop somebody from driving home. Also, we
have Uber, we have left we have Tesla's like you
can just says somebody of Tesla put an address you
didn't get to the the drive the car, like get every
bar a tesla you can put in the address and
then just then they drunk. Asshole. Also people are just assholes,
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like don't even think they just want to have a
good time friend, because like this is when we need
these care ands to activate. You out here calling the
cops on somebody in a damn Victoria's secret. No, bitch,
you need to be out here at this Buffalo wild Wings,
getting your uncle and your daddy. That's what you need
to be knowing that's a new technology. Activate these cares
like they out here. We just need to release them,
like just you know, frumpy doves and like religious help people.
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We just aim Karen's in the right direction. Yes, Like
y'all stay wanting to call the cops on somebody, So
instead of calling the cops and getting black people murdered,
maybe you'll have to call the cops and stop these
drunk dudes from killing people. We just put Karen's in
the parking lot. Yeah, but still this this is a
big victory. It's a big victory for safe driving and
for organizations like Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Unfortunately, though, it
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has generated some criticism from the opposing side in response
to recent legislation, drunks are drunk driving as they shoot
the following statement, Oh man, we'll need our cars telling
us when we allowed to drive. You're called bitch, hushed, asshole.
This is some nanny staplesh it, Okay, don't tread on me.
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Just just you can't handle your drink. M We just
gotta be cool about this. Baby. Talos is all over
the place like me. You know, the baby after a
couple of drinks. I'll find the bad drive this law man. Hey,
do you see that video of that dog, you know,
the one he's got glasses on. It's it's so funny.
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He's like furry and brown. Hang on, let me let me.
I'll show you. I'll show you. My Curt tells me
I can't drive. I'm gonna fit up. Yeah, I'll fight
a car because this is America. If you know you're drunk,
you drive better. But I'm not. How's a car going
to know if I'm drunk? Huh? It's some kind of
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night rider car, some kind of David Hassa off. Huh.
Oh god, I miss that show and it's Jeremy let's
go and but James, what no no, I can't drive.
I'm good. I'm gonna I'm good. I just had a
power nap. Did I get here? I am responsible, Jeremy,
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this has been a message from DFD D. Take us back, Jeremy.
All right, when we come back, Ronnie Chang fights with
you about Thanksgiving. You don't want to miss it. Welcome
back to the Daily Show. There is so much arguing
in America today, but we hear the Daily Show. Well,
we think that they could be even more so to
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do our parts. Here's Ronnie Chang with another installment of
proves Me Wrong. Thanksgiving is coming and everyone's arguing about
CDC guidelines for pilgrims being problematic. But what about the
non political Thanksgiving issues for those I'm here to argue
with random strangers on the street, Improve me wrong? Thanksgiving? Addition, Thanksgiving,
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it's the worst holiday. I said it. I said it.
Why why family gets together? It's a grateful already sounds terrible,
but it's fun peeling vegetables with family, family peeling vegetables.
That's your big argument. It's not the worst holiday because
Columbus Day is a holiday, so there are works. Wait,
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so you actually genuinely have a good time and Thanksgiving.
I do have a great time. Just how much we
do guys small during Thanksgiving to get through It depends
how much extended family is there. So what is the
worst holiday? I have to say? And God forgive me,
I'm irish, but St. Patrick's Day can be really brutal
in the city. In fact, is amazing because on Thanksgiving
people get mad. If you get black out, drop you
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gotta travel, which is terrible and thanks terrible. Okay, haven't
you heard of zoom? Okay o man? After two years
of zooming on stop, I would love to zoom on
my day off with my family. That sounds amazing. It
supposed to be one peaceful day about being thankful. You
know I've been thankful for like your family. Did you
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not receive love as a child. That's another thing to
bring up. We have a family during the holidays, but
they were receiving off love as a child. Did you know?
This is trying to feel a little bit like Federope. Okay,
so just so you know, I'm not paying you for this.
All shoes should have buckles. Prove me wrong. I think
shoes should just you know, not have buckles or laces
or well let's look at what the you're wearing. Wait
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are you wearing dressed crocs? The Pilgrims all ot stuff wrong? Genocide,
not great turkey, you could have picked up at an
animal to eat. But buckles, dude, they nailed it first time.
Boom Okay, buckles aren't appropriate for every occasion, Like, what
if you're going to hit the beach, you gotta pop
on some flip flop Pilgrims landed on the beach with buckles.
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But don't you want your feet to breathe? Be Oh,
I don't need people's feet to breathe. I'm not Quentin Tarantino.
They'll make shoes more expensive, sure, but is don't pop
The appeal of footwear that they're expensive is that's Nike
built a goddamn empire of that. But speaking of Nike,
a lot of shoes they sell come with vel grow shafts,
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not buckles. Yeah, I feel like that's more convenient. If
you're a goddamn child, then yeah, get some get some
vell grow. But if you're an adult, put on a
buckle like an adult. Pumpkin pies you replace apple pies
or year round pie. Prove be wrong. Pumpkin pie has
no taste. No taste, Dude, it's a squash. If you
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think it taste better, then wouldn't that make it more
special to only eat it once a year? This is America.
When you like something, you do it every day until
you get sick of it and you do it some
more technically with hedonic adaptation. If you do it less often,
then like you get to experience the full pleasure of it.
And I feel like I just say something turkey, Okay,
Mr Pilkin. First of all, when you go to mom's house,
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you don't sit down and she give you a pumpkin pie,
so you're just slice of apple pie. You tell me
why you would mess with America and you would mess
with mom. Hey, you talk about moms. I'm trying to
help moms here. It's way easy. Pumpkin pie and apple pie.
Just open a can and done the ship. That's what
you do. Look at that, you just just creating a
mother again opening cans. Those are the second rate mother. Wow,
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now you're hating moms. No, I'm not only a dad.
Would would recommend that you must be a dad? Hey,
that's never been proven in court. Apple has more variety,
Like you didn't play around with it. You know, pumpkins
just aren't as varied, so you did sick of it sooner.
That's also argument and favor. How complicated apple pies are.
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You have to like pick an apple? It's like fifty
different the pumpkin too. There's only one pumpkin. There's no
red delicious pumpkin. What Japanese skin? No, that's a squash,
so do I'm trying to take away my pumpkin pie.
I don't squash pie pumpkin pie. Yeah, he's still getting
the crowd now, people getting mad at you because you're wrong.
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Psychology all night. We're gonna start a fighting unions. Where
about it? Right up? I'm good. I'm good. When the
kid comes home for school or whatever. Then you say, oh,
a pumpkin a day keeps the doctor await. No, that's stupid.
That's just stupid. You can't do that. You give him
an apple. Yeah, but I don't give my kid apple
pie to make him live longer. Nobody likes pumpkin pie.
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It doesn't make you feel good. It doesn't make you
feel homie. It just doesn't. It doesn't do anything for you.
It's just a piece of crap. Well, that's why it
can only have it once a year. Well, I guess
you win, and so you know what that means. I
get the hat too. Yeah, be careful what you wish for.
Lots of dump people come here and arguing, thank you
(22:53):
so much for that running all right. When we come back,
one of the world's most important living artists will discuss
his new memoir about creating art when it is not safe.
So don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
My guest tonight is Eye Way Way, an activist and
one of the world's most important living artists. He's here
to talk about his new memoir, One Thousand Years of
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Joys and Sorrows By Wait, wait, Welcome to the Daily Show. Hi. Um,
I'm not exaggerating when I say you might be one
of the coolest human beings I've ever spoken to, who
has also lived one of the hardest lives I I've
ever come across. Because you know, when I started reading
this book, I thought it would just be a memoir
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of your life. Then I realized there was a memoir
really of your father's life. It was his biography, and
then it was also a story of China and the
last one years so maybe you can help me understand
that why. Well, often being asked why you become you?
So when I was seeing detention in two thousand eleven,
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I asked the same question, why I become an enemy
of a state? So then the the direct response of
the memories, my father was arrested eighty years ago, been
putting jail for six years. So they are they have
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been crime accused as the same crime but in very
different political government. So I think wesout understanding my father's
time under his struggle, and which is about China, about
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the political, situational culture background of China. I never really
can clearly indicate what I have been through. It really
is a powerful account of what you've been through, and
you know in your story read what I found fascinating
is it appears to me that you have a love
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for China that is always in your heart, but you
do not have that same love for the political system
in China or for you know, how the government treats people.
Is that correct? In my assumption of how I read
the book, I think you made a clear, I think
a clear response on what has been I have been doing. Yes,
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I'm Chinese, Uh, you know China is as um it
matters today. You know, it's one point for a billion
people at the same time. Where under a system which
really struggle in every sense politically and humorize freedom of speech,
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almost every um topic, it really struggles. So how should
I put myself right, my personal life into this large contacts.
It's uh, that's why I have to write this book
to figure it out. Were you never afraid though, as
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as somebody who has been detained by the Chinese government,
I mean on multiple occasions it appeared that your life
would be in danger. You were told so many times
not to go up against the government, and yet repeatedly
you did. Is there no fear in you? Is that
what it is? Or how do you how do you
keep on pressing? I do have a fear, but the
affair would have come from if I don't speak out. Simply,
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there's no person whose name is highway Way, and you
know I will be silent as anybody else. So that
is not responsible to life. For yourself, we always want
to speak out our mind. One of your biggest fans,
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from what I from what I read in the book,
is your son. You know, he sounds amazing. One of
the passages in the book that's really gripping is where
you were detained for the eighty one days you were
taken away and you asked him. You say to him,
how does it feel knowing how did he feel knowing
that you've been taken away? And he said, it's not
a big deal. All the government did was advertised for you,
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and they've made you even cooler. What do you think
it is about your son and how he processes what's
happening in the world. I try not to touch him
that much, you know. I don't want to teach him.
I don't want to give my lesson to him. I
think it's not necessary for him to learn what happens
to me. But he has this perspective. He's had a way,
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A way I figured out the one I've been cheating
will make him kind of effort as someone cheasing him
because you both are running. So I think there's a
beauty in there he would always think about on both sides.
You know, to a hy u, power of power has
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to see the the people are the mass the way
of why they're hable to treat them that way because
they are they're afraid, afraid of this kind of majority
and that he always have this kind of intelligence, so
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I think somehow he just got it. It feels like
your art has has a has a feeling of resistance
to it. You know, when you're shattering a job, when
you're breaking something, it feels like is it a rage
that that you're trying to put through? Is it a defiance? What? What? What?
What is it that's coming across that? Maybe it's different
to what you meet when you meet the man. Uh
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And well it's when I talk about my fight or
my struggle or even my artworks, it's not really about me,
but rather about the value I defend. I think that
value are shared by everybody, mostly for the people who
have no chance to speak out, and they would live
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their life in dark for generations. You know, they have
no way to to see the justice ever being presented.
So that always get me angry. And but I still
I know, you know, that's just some kind of emotion.
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I have to control it because as individual, that is
uh that much you can do. But as artists you
can find a language or vocabulary which can reach out.
Sometimes it's successful. Recently, the Holocaust Museum declared the treatments
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of weakers in China as genocide. Many world nations are
afraid to say or try and keep their distance on
labeling anything that's happening. But I guess my question has
two parts to at one, do you agree with what
is happening to the weak at being referred to as genocide?
And too, do you think that helps or hinders the
conversation in trying to get these people liberated and to
(30:13):
get them treated equally. I think first genocide is is
the term Chinese are not very familiar us. They're not
only doing two weak words. There have been doing that
to Tibetans, to in the Mongolia people. Basically the Communist
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society has been doing this kind of real education and
the broom wash to anybody, to my father whom you
know I grew up. It is my father in the
same location as we were people today, and they clearly
tell us that it's a real education. So not only
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being brought to the world view in recent years, but
that that's why they don't understand why now being really
burned up the issue interested the Communist always doing that
and to their own people to you know a so
call the Han people under to other minorities, a thousand
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years of joys and sorrows. What are some of the
joys and maybe tied to that, what are some of
your hopes for China going forward? The joys will be
I will always think when there's the obstacles, there will
be some kind of humor and the joy And then
they always ower me this difficult moment, So I have
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to reasink about my language, my strategy how to deal
with it. That is in most cases is quite humors
and joyful until they put you in absolute a severe
conditions like kidnapping or right or under some kind of
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brutal situation. And for China, I think they're they're developing
very fast. Not nobody can even or in China, but
at the same times they're in certain areas they are
quite blind. First they still cannot solve the the legitimacy
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of the power. They never let their people, which is
one point for billion people to say what a voting
ticket is like, so that means too sins why they
don't trust those people. And the second they don't have
a self confidence to to to be in power as
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a legitimate government. So once that is not solved, they
will be constantly struggle to clean out any opositions, and
I don't simply solve that. And as your son says,
the person who's chasing is running just as fast as
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the person they're chasing. The game, Yeah, that is the game.
Thank you so much for joining on the show. It's
an absolute pleasure meeting you and having you here. Very
pleasant to meet you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Don't forget people. Way Ways memoir one thousand Years of
Joys and Sorrows is available right now. We're gonna take
a quick break, but we'll be right back after this.
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This has been a Comedy Central podcast.
You're listening to Comedy Central. So today a third of
the Internet was down for about an hour. Spotify, Discord, Snapchat,
et see, all sort of sites were down. And then
they said it was because like the Google Cloud thing
was just like not working. And I didn't even want
to get into the details because I don't know about
(00:22):
you guys, but I used to think that the Internet
was very impressive, because I used to think that the
Internet was like a magical thing, like everyone just be like,
we're on the Internet, the Internet. What is the Internet?
It's just the Internet is happening. But like more and
more we're realizing the Internet is just like just like
a really big desktop at Jeff bezos house essentially, and
then if he trips on a chord, we can't check
(00:42):
our emails. That's what the Internet is. We think it's cool,
but it's like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, and then like that's
basically it. That's that's the Internet. It's in somebody's basement.
The turn off the basement. Your life has gone. Huh No, Spotify,
now you're out there. No music people were out there
today just just humming to themselves. Doo doo, Yeah, where's
(01:07):
your play this now? Bitch, because the cloud it's not
the Also, the cloud, the cloud doesn't make it sound safe.
Right when they go like it's in the cloud, It's like,
what is a cloud? It's this thing that's in the
sky that like just sometimes evaporates and disappears. Sometimes it's
they're sometimes it's not there. That's where my information is.
I remember when that ship first came out there, like
everything of yours is in the cloud. Then I was like,
(01:28):
even my pigs. And then on like cloudy days, I
look up and I'll be like, all right, I'm confident,
and then the clouds will start parting and I'll be like,
all right, maybe it's in the other cloud. Thank God, Oh,
thank you Jesus. That was close. Coming to you from
the herd of Times in New York City, the only
city in America. It's The Daily Tonight, Russia de plays
(01:50):
war on space, Thanksgiving is wrong? High Wait wait, it's
the Daily Show with Forever. Hey, what's going on? Everybody?
Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noa and joining
me for today's headlines is my good friend. Don't say, Sloan,
what's going on? They'll say, Hey, man, I've delivered the ground. Baby,
(02:12):
I like that. That's like, you know, before we used
to say that just as a saying, but now it's
like a real thing. You're really above the ground, truly,
Like I don't know how high we are, but we're
not supposed to be up here. We shouldn't like clients. Well,
I mean, what good to have you? Thank you. All right,
let's jump straight into today's headlines. Let's kick things off
(02:36):
with a surprising new side effect of COVID nineteen. And
this isn't a physical side effect like shortness of breath
or loss of smell or masque is where the elastic
loops make me look like Obama's secret son. No, this
is a side effect of how COVID has become a
political football are as Americans call it a political soccer.
But yeah. Basically, it turns out that once conservatives got
(02:58):
angry about having to protect the selves from one disease,
they decided to do it with other diseases as a
matter of general principle. New polls out suggest Republicans are
much less likely to get a flu shot now than
they were before the COVID pandemic. Several national polls say
there was not much difference between the number of Republicans
and Democrats are getting a flu shot in the years
(03:20):
before the coronavirus pandemic. However, Business Insider is reporting there's
now a gap between the members of the two political parties.
About two thirds of Democrats say they have or planned
to get a flu vaccination, while for Republicans that number
is less than fifty Researchers say that indicates the political
(03:42):
battle over the covid vaccine is now affecting flu shots
as well. Yeah, that's right. Many Republicans have turned against
the covid vaccine so hard, then now they're turning against
the flu shots. And look what the covid vaccine. I
get it, I get it. It was new. People didn't
trust the technology. But guys, the flu shot has been
(04:03):
around since forever. You can't decide now to hate It
would be like if everyone suddenly decided to hate Betty White.
I mean, we're all cool with her for a hundred
and forty years. What changed? And if you ask me,
this is a selfish decision. Because people who don't get
the flu shot spread the infection to everyone. They sneeze
into the air that we breathe. They grabbed the door
knobs that we grabbed, they touched the subway polls that
(04:24):
the rest of us lick. It's disgusting. That's why I'm
getting my flu shot for sure. I'm gonna space it
out from my COVID shot. You know, I don't have
two shots close to each other, Otherwise they're both going
to be there in my body at the same time.
They might start a turf war. She starts popping off
in my pancreas. Now it's the cross fire. I don't
want that ship, you know, trying to keep it safe
in my body, which already feels like we're moving to
(04:45):
a place where all of science is going to become partisant.
That's what it feels like like in a few years,
you're gonna hear news reports like Democrats are sticking by gravity,
but many Republicans say they're not interested anymore. Poles show
that up to forty Republicans are now float and off
into space. And now do say over to you in
the weather, it's not as warm as this ship, because
(05:08):
I got to wear a coat and put my toes away,
and I don't appreciate it. Just this covid flu thing
is wild, really good. Thing about this, because now if
we don't want them to do things, we could just
threaten to vaccinate them. What do you mean, like if
they try to storm the Capitol again, just be a
bunch of cops to be like, sorry, if you come
across that line, we will vaccinate you. Don't make us
(05:29):
make this flu shi it air, Sir, sir, hauld them down.
Hit him in the net. Like now you just got
cops running around with needles. Just a bunch of rogue
nurses out here trying to help the like, just trying
to help the government. I think you've just stumbled upon
the next wave of American lawin force. This is actually
pretty good. All right, Let's move on. Let's move on
from the war in science to the war and out
(05:50):
of space, because yesterday Russia woke up and decided to
make things much more dangerous up there than it needs
to be. Now to a conflict in space. The US
is slamming Russia for carrying out a missile test that
created a serious amount of dangerous space debris which could
remain in orbit for decades, threatening space travel. Leaven This morning,
(06:13):
outrage from US officials after Russia carried out a missile
test early Monday, firing an anti satellite missile into space,
obliterating one of its own satellites and creating a vast
debris field that's now orbiting Earth, some of that debris
coming dangerously close to the International Space Station, which is
currently carrying for US astronauts. The crew sheltering for more
(06:36):
than two hours until they were finally given the green light.
Secretary of State Anthony Blinken slamming the Russian missile test,
calling it dangerous and irresponsible, and adding that the debris
will remain a threat for decades. Russia blew up a
satellite with a rockets and guys, I keep saying this,
but these gender reveals are getting out of hand. But
(06:59):
for real, though, I don't know the time why Russia
blew up their own satellites. I mean, maybe it was
announcing that it was running against Putin, who knows. But
but there's gotta be a better way to do this.
I mean, if you want to get rid of something,
you just do what New Yorkers do. Drag it to
the sidewalk and leave a big free sign on it,
you know, but people blowing it up so it sends
lethal debris shooting around in orbit. That's unacceptable, guys. And
(07:21):
if you ask me, someone needs to stand up to Russia,
like maybe America should start some sort of force to
like defend space. You know what's that? Oh? It did?
H And I called it the most pointless thing since
Trump created Don JR. Nah, that doesn't sound like me.
All right, thank you, thank you. Well, look, man, this
(07:45):
is one thing I love about America. America would never
launch a missile at a satellite. I mean, they tried,
but it accidentally hit a wedding in Syria. But the
point is they didn't hit the satellite. All right, let's
move on to a threat that is closer to earth
vigilante white dudes. Yesterday, the arguments at the Kyle Rittenhouse
trial wrapped up, and now the jury has to decide
(08:05):
whether he'll go to prison or become Trump's running mates. Meanwhile,
down in Georgia, they've begun the murder trial for the
three men charged with chasing down and killing Ahmad Aubrey
last year. Now, for obvious reasons, this trial is getting
a lot of national attention. But the lawyer for one
of the defendants, well, he seems to have a big
problem with who is paying attention an explosive morning in
(08:29):
the trial of the three men accused of murdering him
on Arebury, with a still smoldering racially charged debate spurred
on by defense attorneys over black pastors in the courtroom.
Defense attorney Kevin gov objecting to Reverend Jesse Jackson's presence
in the gallery, how many pastors does our very family have? Um,
we had the Reverend how Sharp been here earlier last week?
(08:51):
Which pastors next? Is Raphael Warnock gonna make it be
the next person appearing this afternoon? We don't know. With
all due respect your arm the seats in the public
gallery report room are not like courtside seats in the
Lakers game, all right. First of all, of course, this
trial is not like a Lakers game. Right. The jury
has eleven white people and only one black guy. That's
(09:12):
basically the opposite of any basketball team. And secondly, I'm
not saying that this guy is racist, but when you're
representing a guy who killed a black man just for
jogging in the wrong neighborhood, it's not a great look
to be pointing into the gallery and going, Hey, this
black guy doesn't belong here. We should do something about that.
(09:33):
Come on, Jasper, you want to do it again. And Thirdly,
black pastas have been supporting families in need from the
beginning of time. Why are you shocked by this? They
show up everything. Whether it's kids killed in gang violence,
whether it's a civil rights issue, it doesn't matter what
it is. They'll show up. Hell, if you need them,
they'll even show up for emotional support at your kids
spelling be Lord Jesus, please show this dumb little kid
(09:56):
how to spell platypus. His family has been through enough.
Amen and Amen, what I'm confused about? Listen, I grew
up in Georgia. Everybody is a pastor. Uh, everybody's What
are you talking about that? You don't want pastors here?
Everybody George is a pastor. Also, how am I supposed
(10:17):
to trust a Southern white man that don't want the
Lord in the room. You don't want one of God's servants. Yeah,
you're right. I don't get it. It'd be different if
like Jesse Jackson's in there taking up a collection for
a building fund. So they're not taking up a collection.
It's not like they're in there preaching. It could have
(10:38):
been way worse. They could have brought a whole choiir
in there with them, because if I'm a black pastor
coming to that trial, I'm bringing a whole black I
bring in a whole choir and tambouris. They're gonna that
gil chet, that gil check. That's what I'm doing. If
I'm a black pastor down there, I'm bringing a choir
in and being like George, tell y'all, neighbor, and say, neighbor,
this man is guilty. Oh yeah, I would start assertment
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every time I walked into place. They're just sitting there
being quiet. It's a he said. It's a public gallery. Yes,
they are the public. Anybody can show up, you could
go all right. And finally, yesterday President Biden held a
ceremony on the White House lawn along with Democrats and
(11:23):
Republicans from Congress, and they were doing this to finally
sign his big infrastructure bill. And guys, I really am
confused about why they have to sign the bill in public.
I mean, I know it's important legislation, but as a
spectator sport, it's pretty boring, you know, like, where's the drama?
You know, maybe the pen will run out of ink here. Man. Also,
(11:44):
why are they even having a bill, signing, celebration, passing
laws is their job. Nobody else gets to do that
at their job. Like after you make photo copies for
your boss at the office, you don't get to post
for pictures while shaking hands. I didn't think you could
get a double sided well done, Billy, well done. But look,
I get why lawmakers are excited about. This is the
biggest investment America has made in itself in decades. And
(12:05):
there's also some smaller things in this bill that might
do a lot of good. How to stop drunk drivers
before they even put the car into gear. It has
been talked about for decades, but now, thanks to the
Infrastructure Bill passed by Congress last week, it could finally happen.
It includes a mandate for automakers that all new cars
must use technology that prevents drunken people from driving. It
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will be as standard as airbags. The US Transportation Department
will decide the type of technology that will be required.
It's estimated hundred lines will be saved every year. The
drunk or otherwise and pair driver will get in their
car and it either won't start, won't move, or pull
itself over, depending on what technology is selected. The sober
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driver will get in their car and never even know
it's there. All right, I think we can all agree
this is an amazing law, first of all because it
will hopefully save lives. A secondly, because some people will
be so drunk they won't even know that the car
hasn't started. You realize that, right, it's gonna get in
and get out of the way, Get out of all right,
(13:08):
I'm home Now, why my homeworks? That's like the bar alright, guys,
a type of around two. And I know some people
are asking, how will they develop technology to determine if
someone is drunk? What does that mean? Guys? We already
have that technology. It's called the karaoke machine number for real.
No one is show what technology they'll actually use to
detect if you're drunk driving, right. It could be something
(13:30):
that tracks if your eyes stay open, or if you're
swerving out of your lane, or if you're just trying
to get to a taco bell. I just hope it's
not a breathalyzer. That's the one thing I hope. I
don't want to breathalyze a hope to the dashboard because
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to give my car every
time I want to go somewhere. I want to save
that for special occasions, you know, like our anniversary or
a Toyota. Thought. There is one huge loophole in this law, though,
(13:53):
and that is it only needs to be available in
new cars. Yeah, I mean that's still good, but it
means if someone really likes drunk driving, all they're gonna
do is drive an old car. In fact, at some
point we're probably gonna be able to tell who's committed
to drunk driving because it's gonna be like twenty six
and they'll still be driving a Kia sorrental from two
(14:15):
thousand and five. Yeah, you just can't give this baby up. Man,
you know me, I love vintage cars here, just a
better friends like having something like you've never had to
take your keys like your friend's kids before. I mean,
I know you have very classy, very you know, sophisticated,
you know. And that's that's an interesting point. So you're
(14:36):
saying the best technology is friends, Yes, like the number
of times I've stop somebody from driving home. Also, we
have Uber, we have left we have Tesla's like you
can just says somebody of Tesla put an address you
didn't get to the the drive the car, like get every
bar a tesla you can put in the address and
then just then they drunk. Asshole. Also people are just assholes,
(14:59):
like don't even think they just want to have a
good time friend, because like this is when we need
these care ands to activate. You out here calling the
cops on somebody in a damn Victoria's secret. No, bitch,
you need to be out here at this Buffalo wild Wings,
getting your uncle and your daddy. That's what you need
to be knowing that's a new technology. Activate these cares
like they out here. We just need to release them,
like just you know, frumpy doves and like religious help people.
(15:21):
We just aim Karen's in the right direction. Yes, Like
y'all stay wanting to call the cops on somebody, So
instead of calling the cops and getting black people murdered,
maybe you'll have to call the cops and stop these
drunk dudes from killing people. We just put Karen's in
the parking lot. Yeah, but still this this is a
big victory. It's a big victory for safe driving and
for organizations like Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Unfortunately, though, it
(15:44):
has generated some criticism from the opposing side in response
to recent legislation, drunks are drunk driving as they shoot
the following statement, Oh man, we'll need our cars telling
us when we allowed to drive. You're called bitch, hushed, asshole.
This is some nanny staplesh it, Okay, don't tread on me.
(16:06):
Just just you can't handle your drink. M We just
gotta be cool about this. Baby. Talos is all over
the place like me. You know, the baby after a
couple of drinks. I'll find the bad drive this law man. Hey,
do you see that video of that dog, you know,
the one he's got glasses on. It's it's so funny.
(16:27):
He's like furry and brown. Hang on, let me let me.
I'll show you. I'll show you. My Curt tells me
I can't drive. I'm gonna fit up. Yeah, I'll fight
a car because this is America. If you know you're drunk,
you drive better. But I'm not. How's a car going
to know if I'm drunk? Huh? It's some kind of
(16:49):
night rider car, some kind of David Hassa off. Huh.
Oh god, I miss that show and it's Jeremy let's
go and but James, what no no, I can't drive.
I'm good. I'm gonna I'm good. I just had a
power nap. Did I get here? I am responsible, Jeremy,
(17:20):
this has been a message from DFD D. Take us back, Jeremy.
All right, when we come back, Ronnie Chang fights with
you about Thanksgiving. You don't want to miss it. Welcome
back to the Daily Show. There is so much arguing
in America today, but we hear the Daily Show. Well,
we think that they could be even more so to
(17:44):
do our parts. Here's Ronnie Chang with another installment of
proves Me Wrong. Thanksgiving is coming and everyone's arguing about
CDC guidelines for pilgrims being problematic. But what about the
non political Thanksgiving issues for those I'm here to argue
with random strangers on the street, Improve me wrong? Thanksgiving? Addition, Thanksgiving,
(18:09):
it's the worst holiday. I said it. I said it.
Why why family gets together? It's a grateful already sounds terrible,
but it's fun peeling vegetables with family, family peeling vegetables.
That's your big argument. It's not the worst holiday because
Columbus Day is a holiday, so there are works. Wait,
(18:31):
so you actually genuinely have a good time and Thanksgiving.
I do have a great time. Just how much we
do guys small during Thanksgiving to get through It depends
how much extended family is there. So what is the
worst holiday? I have to say? And God forgive me,
I'm irish, but St. Patrick's Day can be really brutal
in the city. In fact, is amazing because on Thanksgiving
people get mad. If you get black out, drop you
(18:53):
gotta travel, which is terrible and thanks terrible. Okay, haven't
you heard of zoom? Okay o man? After two years
of zooming on stop, I would love to zoom on
my day off with my family. That sounds amazing. It
supposed to be one peaceful day about being thankful. You
know I've been thankful for like your family. Did you
(19:14):
not receive love as a child. That's another thing to
bring up. We have a family during the holidays, but
they were receiving off love as a child. Did you know?
This is trying to feel a little bit like Federope. Okay,
so just so you know, I'm not paying you for this.
All shoes should have buckles. Prove me wrong. I think
shoes should just you know, not have buckles or laces
or well let's look at what the you're wearing. Wait
(19:35):
are you wearing dressed crocs? The Pilgrims all ot stuff wrong? Genocide,
not great turkey, you could have picked up at an
animal to eat. But buckles, dude, they nailed it first time.
Boom Okay, buckles aren't appropriate for every occasion, Like, what
if you're going to hit the beach, you gotta pop
on some flip flop Pilgrims landed on the beach with buckles.
(19:59):
But don't you want your feet to breathe? Be Oh,
I don't need people's feet to breathe. I'm not Quentin Tarantino.
They'll make shoes more expensive, sure, but is don't pop
The appeal of footwear that they're expensive is that's Nike
built a goddamn empire of that. But speaking of Nike,
a lot of shoes they sell come with vel grow shafts,
(20:19):
not buckles. Yeah, I feel like that's more convenient. If
you're a goddamn child, then yeah, get some get some
vell grow. But if you're an adult, put on a
buckle like an adult. Pumpkin pies you replace apple pies
or year round pie. Prove be wrong. Pumpkin pie has
no taste. No taste, Dude, it's a squash. If you
(20:43):
think it taste better, then wouldn't that make it more
special to only eat it once a year? This is America.
When you like something, you do it every day until
you get sick of it and you do it some
more technically with hedonic adaptation. If you do it less often,
then like you get to experience the full pleasure of it.
And I feel like I just say something turkey, Okay,
Mr Pilkin. First of all, when you go to mom's house,
(21:04):
you don't sit down and she give you a pumpkin pie,
so you're just slice of apple pie. You tell me
why you would mess with America and you would mess
with mom. Hey, you talk about moms. I'm trying to
help moms here. It's way easy. Pumpkin pie and apple pie.
Just open a can and done the ship. That's what
you do. Look at that, you just just creating a
mother again opening cans. Those are the second rate mother. Wow,
(21:27):
now you're hating moms. No, I'm not only a dad.
Would would recommend that you must be a dad? Hey,
that's never been proven in court. Apple has more variety,
Like you didn't play around with it. You know, pumpkins
just aren't as varied, so you did sick of it sooner.
That's also argument and favor. How complicated apple pies are.
(21:49):
You have to like pick an apple? It's like fifty
different the pumpkin too. There's only one pumpkin. There's no
red delicious pumpkin. What Japanese skin? No, that's a squash,
so do I'm trying to take away my pumpkin pie.
I don't squash pie pumpkin pie. Yeah, he's still getting
the crowd now, people getting mad at you because you're wrong.
(22:11):
Psychology all night. We're gonna start a fighting unions. Where
about it? Right up? I'm good. I'm good. When the
kid comes home for school or whatever. Then you say, oh,
a pumpkin a day keeps the doctor await. No, that's stupid.
That's just stupid. You can't do that. You give him
an apple. Yeah, but I don't give my kid apple
pie to make him live longer. Nobody likes pumpkin pie.
(22:32):
It doesn't make you feel good. It doesn't make you
feel homie. It just doesn't. It doesn't do anything for you.
It's just a piece of crap. Well, that's why it
can only have it once a year. Well, I guess
you win, and so you know what that means. I
get the hat too. Yeah, be careful what you wish for.
Lots of dump people come here and arguing, thank you
(22:53):
so much for that running all right. When we come back,
one of the world's most important living artists will discuss
his new memoir about creating art when it is not safe.
So don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
My guest tonight is Eye Way Way, an activist and
one of the world's most important living artists. He's here
to talk about his new memoir, One Thousand Years of
(23:16):
Joys and Sorrows By Wait, wait, Welcome to the Daily Show. Hi. Um,
I'm not exaggerating when I say you might be one
of the coolest human beings I've ever spoken to, who
has also lived one of the hardest lives I I've
ever come across. Because you know, when I started reading
this book, I thought it would just be a memoir
(23:36):
of your life. Then I realized there was a memoir
really of your father's life. It was his biography, and
then it was also a story of China and the
last one years so maybe you can help me understand
that why. Well, often being asked why you become you?
So when I was seeing detention in two thousand eleven,
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I asked the same question, why I become an enemy
of a state? So then the the direct response of
the memories, my father was arrested eighty years ago, been
putting jail for six years. So they are they have
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been crime accused as the same crime but in very
different political government. So I think wesout understanding my father's
time under his struggle, and which is about China, about
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the political, situational culture background of China. I never really
can clearly indicate what I have been through. It really
is a powerful account of what you've been through, and
you know in your story read what I found fascinating
is it appears to me that you have a love
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for China that is always in your heart, but you
do not have that same love for the political system
in China or for you know, how the government treats people.
Is that correct? In my assumption of how I read
the book, I think you made a clear, I think
a clear response on what has been I have been doing. Yes,
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I'm Chinese, Uh, you know China is as um it
matters today. You know, it's one point for a billion
people at the same time. Where under a system which
really struggle in every sense politically and humorize freedom of speech,
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almost every um topic, it really struggles. So how should
I put myself right, my personal life into this large contacts.
It's uh, that's why I have to write this book
to figure it out. Were you never afraid though, as
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as somebody who has been detained by the Chinese government,
I mean on multiple occasions it appeared that your life
would be in danger. You were told so many times
not to go up against the government, and yet repeatedly
you did. Is there no fear in you? Is that
what it is? Or how do you how do you
keep on pressing? I do have a fear, but the
affair would have come from if I don't speak out. Simply,
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there's no person whose name is highway Way, and you
know I will be silent as anybody else. So that
is not responsible to life. For yourself, we always want
to speak out our mind. One of your biggest fans,
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from what I from what I read in the book,
is your son. You know, he sounds amazing. One of
the passages in the book that's really gripping is where
you were detained for the eighty one days you were
taken away and you asked him. You say to him,
how does it feel knowing how did he feel knowing
that you've been taken away? And he said, it's not
a big deal. All the government did was advertised for you,
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and they've made you even cooler. What do you think
it is about your son and how he processes what's
happening in the world. I try not to touch him
that much, you know. I don't want to teach him.
I don't want to give my lesson to him. I
think it's not necessary for him to learn what happens
to me. But he has this perspective. He's had a way,
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A way I figured out the one I've been cheating
will make him kind of effort as someone cheasing him
because you both are running. So I think there's a
beauty in there he would always think about on both sides.
You know, to a hy u, power of power has
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to see the the people are the mass the way
of why they're hable to treat them that way because
they are they're afraid, afraid of this kind of majority
and that he always have this kind of intelligence, so
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I think somehow he just got it. It feels like
your art has has a has a feeling of resistance
to it. You know, when you're shattering a job, when
you're breaking something, it feels like is it a rage
that that you're trying to put through? Is it a defiance? What? What? What?
What is it that's coming across that? Maybe it's different
to what you meet when you meet the man. Uh
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And well it's when I talk about my fight or
my struggle or even my artworks, it's not really about me,
but rather about the value I defend. I think that
value are shared by everybody, mostly for the people who
have no chance to speak out, and they would live
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their life in dark for generations. You know, they have
no way to to see the justice ever being presented.
So that always get me angry. And but I still
I know, you know, that's just some kind of emotion.
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I have to control it because as individual, that is
uh that much you can do. But as artists you
can find a language or vocabulary which can reach out.
Sometimes it's successful. Recently, the Holocaust Museum declared the treatments
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of weakers in China as genocide. Many world nations are
afraid to say or try and keep their distance on
labeling anything that's happening. But I guess my question has
two parts to at one, do you agree with what
is happening to the weak at being referred to as genocide?
And too, do you think that helps or hinders the
conversation in trying to get these people liberated and to
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get them treated equally. I think first genocide is is
the term Chinese are not very familiar us. They're not
only doing two weak words. There have been doing that
to Tibetans, to in the Mongolia people. Basically the Communist
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society has been doing this kind of real education and
the broom wash to anybody, to my father whom you
know I grew up. It is my father in the
same location as we were people today, and they clearly
tell us that it's a real education. So not only
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being brought to the world view in recent years, but
that that's why they don't understand why now being really
burned up the issue interested the Communist always doing that
and to their own people to you know a so
call the Han people under to other minorities, a thousand
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years of joys and sorrows. What are some of the
joys and maybe tied to that, what are some of
your hopes for China going forward? The joys will be
I will always think when there's the obstacles, there will
be some kind of humor and the joy And then
they always ower me this difficult moment, So I have
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to reasink about my language, my strategy how to deal
with it. That is in most cases is quite humors
and joyful until they put you in absolute a severe
conditions like kidnapping or right or under some kind of
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brutal situation. And for China, I think they're they're developing
very fast. Not nobody can even or in China, but
at the same times they're in certain areas they are
quite blind. First they still cannot solve the the legitimacy
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of the power. They never let their people, which is
one point for billion people to say what a voting
ticket is like, so that means too sins why they
don't trust those people. And the second they don't have
a self confidence to to to be in power as
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a legitimate government. So once that is not solved, they
will be constantly struggle to clean out any opositions, and
I don't simply solve that. And as your son says,
the person who's chasing is running just as fast as
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the person they're chasing. The game, Yeah, that is the game.
Thank you so much for joining on the show. It's
an absolute pleasure meeting you and having you here. Very
pleasant to meet you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Don't forget people. Way Ways memoir one thousand Years of
Joys and Sorrows is available right now. We're gonna take
a quick break, but we'll be right back after this.
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