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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning everybody. Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson, dropping my pen.
There you're in the garden with here on news radio
six to ten WTVN A two to one w TVN
is our number. Jump on board talking about yarding Bob
as I promised right back to the guardening phone lines.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hey Ron, quick question. My neighbor had a tree with
black knot. I'm not sure of the variety, but it's
been dead couple of years. So I went over and
cut it down and I'm trying to figure out. It
has multiple trunks that about four to eight inches coming
out of the base, and I threw away the entire
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or disposed of the entire canopy. I was wondering if
I can burn the trunk that's left in my fire pit,
or if that's hazardous.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
No, that's no.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
As a matter of fact, Blanning burning the black knot,
I don't think would be hazardous either. I mean, that
shouldn't be a that shouldn't be a problem. Those gulls
that were on the stems were gnarled up that that
I wouldn't hesitate to throw down in the UH. As
a matter of fact, I'd be curious to see if
it makes different colors or whatever when you burn it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But I wouldn't have hesitated to burn that either.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That probably uh for a tree that black knot is
usually in the pruneu's family, So like did it have
red leaves purplely or yeah, Canada red cherry. I almost
guarantee you that's what it was, and so yeah, as
cherry would. And that is just a fungus that's growing
on there. So to burn that to get for getting
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in the smoker or in the air whatever not and not,
that wouldn't be an issue at all. So yes, absolutely
use it in the fire pit.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Would you roast a marshmallow over it?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I would roast a marshmallow over top of black knot smoke, Yes,
I would.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
All right, well, I appreciate you both.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Than what time are we supposed to be there?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's looking like we're gonna have some good evenings, so
whenever you want to come over?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Sounds good? Yeah, No, I in all serious of snow,
I wouldn't hesitate at.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
All to do that.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Awesome, Thank you, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Bob, Sorry to make you hold on for so long there.
What he's talking about is a disease that we have
seen on Canada red cherries. And if you've lifted our
show over all the years, ten years ago, Canada red
cherry was one of my most favorite trees of all trees.
And it's a really cool cherry tree. Really doesn't produce
much and fruit. If it did, the birds eat it
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off right away. But what was neat about this tree
is it was a fairly moderately fast growing tree, usually
sold either multi stemmed or single trunk. But the leaves
come out in the springtime green and then they turned
the maroon color, and I mean it was a good
purple plum maroon color and lasted all summer long, and
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the white flowers in the springtime were very fragrant and
they've hung down like clusters of grapes. And then of
course the cherries came on very quickly. Birds ate goaune
done deal. Wasn't a messy tree or anything like that,
absolutely gorgeous and it gave you something in a reasonable
amount of time. Well then all of a sudden, about uh, yeah,
it's been about fifteen years or so ago we started
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seeing this black nut which has been around. Purple plum's
gotten in the past not very often show up on
the on some of the branches. And then the next
thing we know, further south, it's worse. If you go
down to southern Ohio and to Kentucky and it's it's
it's you don't see hardly any Canada red cherries at
all anymore down there, pretty much gone. The further north
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you got to get the combus and the more up
toward Cleveland not as bad.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
They deal with it a little bit in that state
up north in some of their cherry trees as well,
But any any tree in the Pruness family can be
subject to blacknot and on the on the branch, it's
just all of a sudden, it just kind of swells
up with these black, gnarly looking the branches turns black
and gnarly, and again it's that's the disease inside the branch.
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It chokes off the branch, the rest of it dies,
and it's a done deal. And then those spores come
out and spread and then it's done. It's finished. And
that's why I was concerned about burning it into fire pit.
But I can't see any reason that's not a disease
or a fungus that bothers us and that's why I
say I would have no problem roasted marshmall over top
of using those stems. But that's what it is. And
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so now you don't see Canada Red Harry's. They're still
out there and a lot of nurses in southern Ohio
Kentucky have pretty much stopped growing them, but.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
They're still available.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And like I say, we don't see it as much
here and further north, but it's out there and there's
not a whole lot you can. You can prone it out,
try spray and your plans to protect them in the springtime.
But once it gets it, you know, once you start
noticing a bunch of it in the tree, it's just
a matter of time before it eventually takes it out.
But that's what we're talking about. Blacknot all right, Shane,
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Good morning, Good.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Morning, Ron well the program.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I'm Ashley. I heard earlier explaining about starting a new yard.
So a lot of questions I had or answered it.
I've actually got about a little over a five thousand
square foot section of my property that I had started
a new yard years ago. But in the intranet it's
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come it's been overrun with weeds and everything, and I've
decided just to start over again. So the first time,
I just took up my right hand miller with a
kind of a plow type it had times mental times,
and I just ripped the top section of the grass
and all the stuff that was with it. But this
time that was obviously a lot of a lot of work.
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So this time I've decided just to kill it and
then just scalp it and then so I don't have
so much. But I was curious. I had heard some
people actually will not just score the top of the
surface of the soil, but maybe like dig down about
four or five inches or something like that and just
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turn the soil top soil over and then just rake
it out. But I had heard that sometimes there's a
lot of dormant weeds and things like that that you
could actually, you know, turn over, and that could be
a problem. So I don't know if there's any truth
of that or not, but that's what I was thinking
about doing. I don't know that I'd be able to
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bring in top soil or top dressing from where this
property is, but that was one concern, whether or not
just to turn the soil over and Also, I've heard
about tenacity about using that as a pre emergent prior deceiting,
and also about peat moss. I had seen some pros
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and cons of using it, and the section I'm working,
I don't really don't have an irrigation system, so I
would thought it might be beneficial to use a peat moss
just because I wouldn't have to water, you know, so much.
So those are some of the questions that I had,
and I can just go ahead and hang up, and
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then if you would address those that does that make
sense to you about what?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I'm absolutely absolutely, Shane, I appreciate it, and I know
you're gonna hang up, so we'll we'll try to. I
hope I cover everything, remember everything you had in there?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Great?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Thank you? All right, if I don't, you can email
me back and I'll try to cover that. First of all,
is it true about turning the soil over?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You go in and until an area like that, or
turn it over where you're scratching the top three or
four or five inches, many cases, you will turn up
new weed seeds that have been laying there dormant for
years and just needed that little sunlight or whatever it
may be to start to germinate. So yes, that can happen.
As a matter of fact, it's one of one of
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the many reasons why you're getting into more no till gardening,
obviously to not disturb the earthworms and tilling it up
and erosion control and turning up we eat seeds as well,
and just dealing with what's on top of the soil surface.
So yes, that can happen. But in some cases where
it's a really nasty soil, you got to go in
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there and you ask them a compost or whatever to it,
and you do till it or plow it and start.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All over again.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But yes, you could be subject to turning up more
weed seeds not seeing your lawn. I can't say at
one percent, but my feeling is this, if you're going
to kill everything out the tenacity doesn't take out grass,
that can work as a bit of a premerger for
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you also. But I would look at the thing about
doing this in the falls, the fact that weed seeds
don't come up as much in the fall as they
would if we were doing this in the springtime. So
if I looked at your lawn and I said, okay,
I'm want to kill everything out. So what I'd let
it grow, make sure it's growing, actively growing, and spray
the entire thing with a non selective vegetation killer. All right,
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that kills everything that's there, and that's a hard thing
to do sometimes, But kill everything that's there with a
non selective And that was one of the things I
was going to talk about today, or the different options
you have for non selective herbicides. And after I'm after
we take the break here, I'll come back and I'll
talk more about that. But but killing it all out
with a non selective herbicide, and it has to be
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actively growing for that to be effective. And once that
and then you spray ten days two weeks later, it
should start to really losing color, turning brown whatever. At
that point, then you can take your mower and then
scalp it, take it right down as low as you can.
All right, then, and this is what I would do.
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Then I would come back with a core air raider
and I would core air rate that five thousand square
foot area and pull those plugs out and open that up. Right,
You'd be amazed if you just did that and nothing
else and then came back and seated the difference that'll
make to that soil, but core errate it. Then I
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would come back with a compost, a really fine compost,
and I would top dress that whole area and I
would rake it in nice.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And then you're were only talking a quarter of an
inch or so.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Okay of this of this compost on top, some of
that will go down in those cores. And that's good.
That's what you would. Now we're getting organic matter down
into the soil. Then you come back, and that's a
that's an extra step that is well worth it. Now
you come back and you rent yourself a slice seedar
or slit seedar they're called sometimes, And what that does
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is cuts a groove into your existing soil and through
the existing dead material and the compost that's down there.
It'll cut a groove and drop the grass seed which
is in a hopper just above it, in those grooves.
So it gives you good seed soil contact. And then
you can come right back. And you can you could
have either put the starter fertilizer down and then seed
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or seed come right back with us the starter fertilizer.
Put that down and you are ready to go. Now
it's all moisture dependent. So now you've either got to
set up the sprinklers or at least watered in or
let mother nature do her thing. I would not do
the peat moss. I think it's too expensive. I would
do the compost. That'll help you out a bunch, and
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then you go from there. But you've broken that soil
with a slice seed or it's amazing what that'll do
for you. You core aerrated it, you open it up,
you added composts back, you've done your seating, you've done
your starter fertilizer. Now you're in the hands of mother nature,
and then you go from there. But I would stay
away from the peat moss. Used to do that thirty
years ago. Don't do that so much today. The compost,
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the really fine composts, sometimes the comtail that can be
used for you as well. Watch the phs on that.
But that can be used in a situation like that.
But that's the direction I would go if I was
revamping that five thousand square foot area.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Quick break, we come back. Mary and Tad.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
You're coming up next, and I'll talk about these non
selective herbicides that are available for yet there, which ones
you're gonna use?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You got lots of choices.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Talking about it here on news radio six ten WTVN,
talking to Yarding here on news radio six to ten WTVN,
A two to one WTVN lawn renovation. You know it's
this is a time between now and the end of September.
This is when you want to get her done, no
matter what it is, seating, overseating, new seating, killing it out,
starting all over the starter fertilizer. The first feeding of
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your lawn is in September. Regular feeding. If you don't
do anything to the lawn, it's in September as well.
So we got a lot of things going on over
the next six weeks to try to keep that lawn
looking good. And trust me, if you're looking at your
lawn right now, and I don't know too many out
there that look really good. I mean there are some
that's been well irrigated and maintained. But you know, if
it's looking a little rough right now, things you need
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to do to it, perk it back up. But if
it's looking really good, you say, I don't think I'm
gonna do anything to it. I think we're in good shape.
Don't do that. Continue to feed the two times in
the far like, we recommend to keep it as healthy
as possible. Now we were talking about killing everything out right,
and there's a lot of situations where you want to
get rid of everything and start all over again.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So what do I use?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, a lot of folks have of course been turned
off by the glyphosate that's in Roundup. Well, round Up,
as I explained earlier this year, changed the formula on
their Roundup Weed and grass killer for the homeowner version.
Now this is the homeowner version with their new exclusive formula,
and it says that on the front, the exclusive formula.
So when you buy, if you're going with the Roundup,
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make sure you look and see which one you have
because some of the old bottles are still on the shelf.
But it has three different herbicides in it, and it's
the label and restrictions are different than the original round
Up with the glyphosate. And if you're putting it down,
if you're going to do the seven days I think before,
you can recede grass when using this one, but you
you've got longer periods of waiting for planting shrubs afterwards
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and that type of thing. It's a different setup. It's
three different nerb sides in there. You want to read
the label for the new roundup if you're like me
and you still want to use glyphosate because it does
such a great job kills all by fertilome is glyphosate
always has been, and as a matter of fact, the
percentages are higher in fertiloan products and do I've always
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thought it a better job. But fertilome kills all has
the glyphosate. So if you want to stick with that,
that's what you want to look for, and you'll find
fertilan products that you're locally owned independent garden centers. You
won't find it in box stores. It's fertilome. And then
if you say, well, I don't want that, but I
don't want the three chemicals that are in the new roundup,
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Gluposcinate is the next one that they're pulling the glyphosphate
out of and putting that one as a substitute, because
it's also a systemic, pretty safe to use. Fert lomes
is called decimate. Tell them, I'm telling you it doesn't
do the job that round up that glycasse does that
kills all, But it's there for you if that's what
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you want.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
To use.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And then if you want to go all natural, Fertilome
and other companies as well have they're all natural, non
selective vegetation killers. Fertile homes happens to be grass and
weed killers, what it's called organic grass and weed killer
made out of fatty acids of soap. Now, these products
only burn the tops of the foliage. They really don't
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do much as far as the root system, but they'll
burn the tops off for you. So for annuals not bad.
For perennials, not so good because the perennial roots are
still there. Now they'll say they go down and kill,
you know, and they'll do a few of the roots,
there's no doubt, but not rarely. If it's a tough,
durable perennial weed you're trying to get through with having
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it there. These organic ones are a little bit they're
just not that effective. Top burn the tops, but not
necessarily bottom. So there are alternatives for you. And if
you want to stick with the glife estate like Roundup
used to be, you got kills all by Furtilom and
that's out at your local independent garden center, So keep
that one in mind if that's what you're looking for
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all Right, Mary, good morning.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
I have a slope that I need to receed, Yes,
but I need crown vetch. Where can I find crown
vetch seed?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I would check with a feed store, a farm store,
you know, a place like that. And most garden centers anymore,
rarely does anybody ask for vetch, crown vetch and so,
and they'll use it for a cover crop sometimes in
a vegetable garden. And so the demand isn't there for
the garden centers to have it. I mean, you can
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call around and look, but I don't I rarely ever
see in the garden center. So you're gonna wind up
going online to get that unfortunately, you know, and I
don't have a source for you to go to that.
I know that's reputable, but uh to me, and that
they will probably try to sell you, and you should
get it an inoculate to go with it to make
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sure that that germinates nicely. I would have you seen
successful plantings of the crown vetch in other areas, Mary.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Usually on the roadside on a slope, okay, right, uh huh.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And I just you can and you do whatever you
want to do. But I look at crown vets sometimes,
and I'm not trying to talk you out of it.
I just want you to make it. Make sure you're sure,
because I've probably seen more not very good plantings of
crown vetchs, and I have good plantings of crown vetch.
It can be a little tough sometimes to get established,
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and sometimes it'll start to kind of poop out a
little bit on you. You've got to stick with it
and sometimes do some receding. But I it's out there
and they still use it on some pretty serious slopes.
I probably haven't recommended crown vets besides as a like
I said, a green crop or a you know, a
vegetable cover crop on a slope for quite some time,
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just just because I don't see that many really good
plantings of it. But there are some out there. That's
why I was making sure that you've seen it maybe
in your area, that it's done fairly well. And if
that's the case, I would say go for it. But
you're gonna have to go online, I would imagine, unless
you check with a couple of local farm stores to
find out ground best seed.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah, we had it on the slope, but it got
cut several times. It was out of our controller. Oh yeah,
but this it did well when it was there.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Oh good, but the great but.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
The slope got cut and it got scraped, so it
took took it out right, yeap.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And then so that's why I'm saying, if you've seen
it and you know it's done well in your area,
then you go for it. And I think it's a
beautiful you know, in an area where you just let
it grow and do its thing. It's absolutely beautiful groundcover,
especially when it's in flower.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Right.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
And the one we had was like a fern leaf.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I think there's two kinds of crowns etch and we
had the one that looked.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Like a fern. Oh cool, without the flower.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
So okay.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
A farm store, yeah yeah, farm supply, tractor supply, Real King,
they may have it, but otherwise you're gonna have to
go online.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Yeah. We were trying to do it local, you know,
within you know. Oh absolutely, okay, okay, great, thank you
very much.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
All right, good talking with a quick break, We come back.
Mary number two, you're coming up next. Paul, you're on
hold as well. Uh, taking your calls at eight two
to one WTV in here on News Radio six y
ten WTV in before we go back to the gardening
phone lines, a couple mentions here for you want to
remind everybody that if you're looking for something to do
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next Saturday, besides the Buckeye game, which is in the evening,
this is during the day, don't forget the fifty eighth
Annual Dahlias Show is coming up next Saturday and Sunday.
On Saturday, it's from one to five. On Sunday, it's
one to four. It's at the Union County YMCA and Marysville.
It's a really cool show. Of course, you get to
meet Jeff and Linda Lane and all their friends in
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the Dahlia Society there. But again go to their website
Columbus Dalias dot com. That's Columbus Dalias dot com to
learn more about that and to learn more about dahlias
as well. That could be a lot of fun next
weekend if you look for something to do. And then
coming up on September the eighth, that's on a Sunday
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from one un till five. It's the Columbus Garden Railway
Society's Garden Railway Garden Tour and they have twelve homes.
I think this year in various locations around Franklin County
and they're all different small scale train sets and all
of that plus the themes and the landscaping and the
old nine Yards a lot of fun to learn more
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about that tour. And this is I think there maybe
the thirty fifth, thirty six years something like that. So
go to their website. It's the cg RS dot org,
the cg RS dot org and learn more and it's
a free event. So again that's the Coumbus Garden Railway
Society's Garden Tour that will be coming up on September
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the fifth. So you got a couple of things there
to do a couple weekends in a row. If you're
looking for something a little bit extra and kind of unique,
to visit some of those gardens and learn how to
grow Dally is back to the gardening phone lines.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
We shall go.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Mary, good morning, Yes, thanks for taking my call, and
thank you also for all these wonderful announcements, because it's
great to know what's going on around town. Good thank you,
you're welcome.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
I was I've heard your feature the poison ivy treatment
and I can't remember the name of it, and I
had to have somebody cut down a lot of poison
ivy around my ear and I was wanting to share
that in form.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Me with this person.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Zanfell z A N F E. L And And their
website is Zanfel dot com. Okay, and uh, it's it's
great stuff. I'll tell you it does work. There's no doubt.
It's been talking about that for a long time. But
as yeah, uh, and usually this time of the year
when folks are getting back out starting to clean things
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out and clean out the fence rows, and all of
a sudden there's that poison ivy you didn't recognize. And
that's when Zanfell comes to the rescue.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
No, they ran into poison oak also that cover that
also all.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right, interesting story here, Mary, there there is no poison
oak in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Wow, he found a bunch of it on this tree
that was growing on my neighbor's yard.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
If you go to Zanfell's website, that Zanfel dot com,
what you'll find is that poison ivy actually has many
different looks when it comes to the leaf shape, and
they can actually somewhat mimic what do you think poison
oak would look like, but there's technically there is actually
no poison oak in the state of Ohios. It's misdiagnosed
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all the time, but there isn't any here strictly poison
ivy and poison sumac. And the thing about sumac is
that you'd have to be standing in a bog I mean,
it literally grows in boggy wet areas, So there's a
real you know, most people would never get the poison sumac.
But poison ivy has many different looks sometimes that's why
it's mistaken as a poison oak, but none in the
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state of Ohio. But again, Zanfel, if it had been
poison oak, Zanfel would help to take care.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Of that rash as well.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
All right, appreciate the call. Appreciate you listening to our show. Paul,
good morning.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Yes, sir, Hey, I've got a twenty year old Japanese
maple and the leaves are starting to look like they're burning,
and I don't know, the tree don't look very good.
But I had it another tree that kind of shaded
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it and I had to cut it down. But any
did that happen this year? Yes, yes, it has here's.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
The deal with Japanese maples, especially when they're younger, but
even when they're older. If you get into a really hot,
dry summer, and of course we've had timely rainfalls in
some areas and not so timely in others, and it
gets dry and it's hot, especially the hot and in
a situation where it was used to some shading as
an understory tree, and now all of a sudden it's
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exposed to full sun, Japanese maples will scorch naturally, that's
just and a lot of times, you know, the edges
of the leaves start to turn crispy and brown, they'll
lose a little bit of color. They don't they aren't
that vibrant red that they were earlier in the season.
And that happens strictly from the exposure to the sun
the heat. And you add on top of that a
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little bit of dryness down below, and they scorch really easily. Now,
it's the thing of it is, at this stage in
the game, what I'd be doing is I'd be looking
at that maple pol and I'd be saying, okay, looking
closely and looking at the buds and looking at the stems.
Are they still green and viable. Are the buds for
next year? Because they're all set and they're there, Are
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they green and viable?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Is there any die back in there? And if there's not,
you're probably in really good shape. You're going to get
rid of these leaves. Eventually, these scorch leaves will fall
off of there and the tree could be really good
to go for next year. I think the thing I
would I would make sure is that if we go
through dry periods right now, I'd be sure that I'm
giving it a good soaking, let it dry out, give
it a good soaking, just to make sure it's got
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good moisture. But I think a combination of the heat
and then not seeing it the heat and the dryness
that we've had, and of course losing that little bit
of shade, filtered shade. We'll do a number on Japanese maples.
They'll scorch very quickly.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Okay, ron, I appreciate that. One more thing. On one
of the main branches, I noticed all some like something
has got into the branch and some of the bark
is coming off on this tree. Anything I can put
on there to stop.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
A well, no, what I would be doing is looking
at is that branch? Is that branch still have leaves
on it?
Speaker 10 (26:29):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Yeah, it's one of the main branches.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, because sometimes when they go under stress from all
the things we were just talking about, sometimes that'll cause
the branches or the trunk to crack and you'll see
the bark actually start to crack just because of the
stress that the tree is under. So what you want
to do is watch that to make sure. Sometimes you
get a few rolli polleis in that that'll get back
in there and just make things worse. So, no, you
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don't want to put anything on that. Let it seal
itself back over. If there's loose bark on there, you
can take like a pen knife only cutting as deep
as that bark and get rid of that. But otherwise,
let that thing seal itself over. And if you're not
really sure what to do, Paul, if you take a
picture of that that's cracking and the overall tree and
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a couple of the leaves, email them to me. I'll
take a quick look at it and give you my
diagnosis and looking at that. But otherwise with the crack,
unless there's a hole or something in there, just leave it.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Alone. Let us seal itself back over.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Okay, Ron, great, Hey, I have a good weekend. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Hey, you too good talking to you.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And you know that's pretty much true with we talk
about anything where you proved a plant, cut the branch off,
whatever it may be. Something hit it, the deer rubs it,
whatever may be. We don't put tree paint on those anymore.
We don't put tree wound dressing on those anymore. We
clear off the bark that's just hanging there. So you've
got the bark by the scar or the wounded area
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is attached, firmly attached to the plant.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And you let it go.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And then the exposure of that layer underneath the bark
to sun and to win, and then the environment starts
to cause it to callous back over. And if you
look real close where that's the crack is on the outside,
where the bark's still attached, you'll start to see a
little callous start to grow there. And eventually that callous
comes together and seals that back over. It never heals over,
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but it seals back over and will eventually seal that
back up. So we leave it alone and let it
do its own thing. Quick break, we come back, Kevin,
You're coming up next. Couple more tips to share with
you here at the news radio six to ten WTVN. Now,
that would be great music to be working out in
the garden with right now. Right, oh yeah, bouncing around
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pulling those weeds, picking a few tomatoes. I think it
would work. Back to the gardening phone lines, we shall go, Kevin,
good morning, Hello Ron, this.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
Long time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Welcome.
Speaker 10 (28:53):
I'm wondering what you think generally about an all clover
lawn and do you have any tips for how to.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
At all clover lawn.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I don't think I would want a micro clover lawn.
I think I would want As a matter of fact,
you're seeing I use use more and more.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
That's what I meant to ask about micro clover lawn.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I like it as a matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
As a matter of fact, I found a company that's
UH that put together special packages that you're now finding
in a lot of the garden centers. Are all called
Flawn F L A W N. And I believe they
were out of Minnesota if I'm not mistaken. But that's
that's what they're doing, is they're putting together these packages
of the micro clovers and some of the other clovers
that you can sew in with your existing lawn and
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have both. Because some some stay very the micro clovers
stay very low, you really don't see them as much.
Then you get into the white clovers, which you do see,
and of course they flower, and there's other clovers you
can use in there as well. So you know, I
like that, and I think the concept behind it and
all that, it's it's really nothing new. They used to
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do that forty fifty years ago. When you put down
grass seed, you always put the clover with it to
help get the grass he started, and then the grass.
The whole theory was the grass would eventually choke out
the clover or you'd get rid of the clover at
at some point. So it's something that it has been
around for forever. But now with these micro clovers, you know,
they're just they have nestled right in there. Teresa Parker,
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who was one of our listeners, they did. She did that,
and she said she kind of laughed because she said,
I put this in our lawn. My husband didn't even
notice it because that micro clover stays down nice and low,
really doesn't flower a whole lot, and he didn't realize
I had done that. They have bees and you know,
really into the pollinators and all, and it's worked great
and they absolutely love it. So timing wise, you can
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do it spring or fall. So you're there again as
far as putting this down, And if you go to
the website and I think it's just flawn flawn dot com,
or if I'm not mistaken, or just google flawn, it'll
it'll they will. They walk you through the whole thing.
It's a pretty good website for information, So I like it.
An answer to your question.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
All right, well, how do you control weeds because your
typical lawn weed killer like round us kill the clover.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, well yeah, any most all of the broad leaf
weed killers that you would use that would not kill
the grass will affect clover. That's one of the issues
that you get into is that then we control you.
You hope that what you're trying to do is keep
the lawn as thick as possible because the thicker the lawn,
the fewer insects and disease and weeds.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
That we have.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And typically the weeds pop up where the lawn thins out,
so if that micro clover can help keep that lawn
as thick as possible. Along with the micro clover, hopefully
you don't see as many weeds, and you know if
you do, you've got to go through with like the
crab that the crab grass fork here with a little
work and just try to pop out as many as
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you can. But that is one issue to having clover
mixed in with your lawn is the fact that you
know you're not gonna be able to use a broad
leaf wee killer to go after any of the weeds
that are in. There would be more of a hand
pulling and again doing everything you can like you would
in your normal lawn anyway, to keep it as thick
as possible. All right, good talking with you. We've only
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got about well, let's go ahead, Ron, Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I have over an acre with I've got areas that
have that creeping Charlie ivy at it. Yes, and I've
used my mower with the lowest setting and kind of
scalped off different areas, but it's just widespread. It's over
an acre that I have. Is there something I can
spray on that?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
One of the best times to go after Creeping Charlie
is in October, and that's true for most all of
the broad leaf weeds out there.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
There are some of the better weed killers on the
market today does a pretty good good job with Charlie.
Fertil Ome's Weed free Zone and Bonney's Weed Beater Ultra,
I think, do a pretty decent job with Charlie. But
what I might be thinking, a suggesting you do, is
instead of going after Charlie right now, is to think
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about in those areas where Charlie's growing. In those spots,
the lawn is probably thinned out, it's not as thick,
and Charlie only moves in where the lawn is thinned out.
So why don't we look at right now thickening up
those areas through fertilization, through slice seeding, right through creeping
Charlie right into those bear areas. Get some new seed
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in there, some fertilizer in there. Let's get new grass
coming up in there. And if you do that now
beginning of September, by the time we get to the
end of October, which is still a good time to
spray whatever's Creeping Charlie's still left, we could come in
and actually spot treat those areas. That's the best time
to do it in anyway. And now you've got new
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grass coming up, we go after Charlie next spring. If
you see any coming up, you go google little spot
treating and then you're good to go.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And we got to go.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Ron.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
If I didn't answer everything for you, email me and
I'll get back to you as quickly as I can.
But in many cases like that, where you get Charlie
or something it's really hard to get rid of. I'm
getting going down low right now, seed right through it,
get that new grass growing, and then come back after
it later can be a very good option for you.
Thanks all of our colors, Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of
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Speaker 2 (34:55):
See you
Good morning everybody. Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson, dropping my pen.
There you're in the garden with here on news radio
six to ten WTVN A two to one w TVN
is our number. Jump on board talking about yarding Bob
as I promised right back to the guardening phone lines.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hey Ron, quick question. My neighbor had a tree with
black knot. I'm not sure of the variety, but it's
been dead couple of years. So I went over and
cut it down and I'm trying to figure out. It
has multiple trunks that about four to eight inches coming
out of the base, and I threw away the entire
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or disposed of the entire canopy. I was wondering if
I can burn the trunk that's left in my fire pit,
or if that's hazardous.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
No, that's no.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
As a matter of fact, Blanning burning the black knot,
I don't think would be hazardous either. I mean, that
shouldn't be a that shouldn't be a problem. Those gulls
that were on the stems were gnarled up that that
I wouldn't hesitate to throw down in the UH. As
a matter of fact, I'd be curious to see if
it makes different colors or whatever when you burn it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But I wouldn't have hesitated to burn that either.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That probably uh for a tree that black knot is
usually in the pruneu's family, So like did it have
red leaves purplely or yeah, Canada red cherry. I almost
guarantee you that's what it was, and so yeah, as
cherry would. And that is just a fungus that's growing
on there. So to burn that to get for getting
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in the smoker or in the air whatever not and not,
that wouldn't be an issue at all. So yes, absolutely
use it in the fire pit.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Would you roast a marshmallow over it?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I would roast a marshmallow over top of black knot smoke, Yes,
I would.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
All right, well, I appreciate you both.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Than what time are we supposed to be there?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's looking like we're gonna have some good evenings, so
whenever you want to come over?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Sounds good? Yeah, No, I in all serious of snow,
I wouldn't hesitate at.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
All to do that.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Awesome, Thank you, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Bob, Sorry to make you hold on for so long there.
What he's talking about is a disease that we have
seen on Canada red cherries. And if you've lifted our
show over all the years, ten years ago, Canada red
cherry was one of my most favorite trees of all trees.
And it's a really cool cherry tree. Really doesn't produce
much and fruit. If it did, the birds eat it
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off right away. But what was neat about this tree
is it was a fairly moderately fast growing tree, usually
sold either multi stemmed or single trunk. But the leaves
come out in the springtime green and then they turned
the maroon color, and I mean it was a good
purple plum maroon color and lasted all summer long, and
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the white flowers in the springtime were very fragrant and
they've hung down like clusters of grapes. And then of
course the cherries came on very quickly. Birds ate goaune
done deal. Wasn't a messy tree or anything like that,
absolutely gorgeous and it gave you something in a reasonable
amount of time. Well then all of a sudden, about uh, yeah,
it's been about fifteen years or so ago we started
(03:11):
seeing this black nut which has been around. Purple plum's
gotten in the past not very often show up on
the on some of the branches. And then the next
thing we know, further south, it's worse. If you go
down to southern Ohio and to Kentucky and it's it's
it's you don't see hardly any Canada red cherries at
all anymore down there, pretty much gone. The further north
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you got to get the combus and the more up
toward Cleveland not as bad.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
They deal with it a little bit in that state
up north in some of their cherry trees as well,
But any any tree in the Pruness family can be
subject to blacknot and on the on the branch, it's
just all of a sudden, it just kind of swells
up with these black, gnarly looking the branches turns black
and gnarly, and again it's that's the disease inside the branch.
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It chokes off the branch, the rest of it dies,
and it's a done deal. And then those spores come
out and spread and then it's done. It's finished. And
that's why I was concerned about burning it into fire pit.
But I can't see any reason that's not a disease
or a fungus that bothers us and that's why I
say I would have no problem roasted marshmall over top
of using those stems. But that's what it is. And
(04:20):
so now you don't see Canada Red Harry's. They're still
out there and a lot of nurses in southern Ohio
Kentucky have pretty much stopped growing them, but.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
They're still available.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And like I say, we don't see it as much
here and further north, but it's out there and there's
not a whole lot you can. You can prone it out,
try spray and your plans to protect them in the springtime.
But once it gets it, you know, once you start
noticing a bunch of it in the tree, it's just
a matter of time before it eventually takes it out.
But that's what we're talking about. Blacknot all right, Shane,
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Good morning, Good.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Morning, Ron well the program.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I'm Ashley. I heard earlier explaining about starting a new yard.
So a lot of questions I had or answered it.
I've actually got about a little over a five thousand
square foot section of my property that I had started
a new yard years ago. But in the intranet it's
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come it's been overrun with weeds and everything, and I've
decided just to start over again. So the first time,
I just took up my right hand miller with a
kind of a plow type it had times mental times,
and I just ripped the top section of the grass
and all the stuff that was with it. But this
time that was obviously a lot of a lot of work.
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So this time I've decided just to kill it and
then just scalp it and then so I don't have
so much. But I was curious. I had heard some
people actually will not just score the top of the
surface of the soil, but maybe like dig down about
four or five inches or something like that and just
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turn the soil top soil over and then just rake
it out. But I had heard that sometimes there's a
lot of dormant weeds and things like that that you
could actually, you know, turn over, and that could be
a problem. So I don't know if there's any truth
of that or not, but that's what I was thinking
about doing. I don't know that I'd be able to
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bring in top soil or top dressing from where this
property is, but that was one concern, whether or not
just to turn the soil over and Also, I've heard
about tenacity about using that as a pre emergent prior deceiting,
and also about peat moss. I had seen some pros
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and cons of using it, and the section I'm working,
I don't really don't have an irrigation system, so I
would thought it might be beneficial to use a peat moss
just because I wouldn't have to water, you know, so much.
So those are some of the questions that I had,
and I can just go ahead and hang up, and
(07:06):
then if you would address those that does that make
sense to you about what?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I'm absolutely absolutely, Shane, I appreciate it, and I know
you're gonna hang up, so we'll we'll try to. I
hope I cover everything, remember everything you had in there?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Great?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Thank you? All right, if I don't, you can email
me back and I'll try to cover that. First of all,
is it true about turning the soil over?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You go in and until an area like that, or
turn it over where you're scratching the top three or
four or five inches, many cases, you will turn up
new weed seeds that have been laying there dormant for
years and just needed that little sunlight or whatever it
may be to start to germinate. So yes, that can happen.
As a matter of fact, it's one of one of
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the many reasons why you're getting into more no till gardening,
obviously to not disturb the earthworms and tilling it up
and erosion control and turning up we eat seeds as well,
and just dealing with what's on top of the soil surface.
So yes, that can happen. But in some cases where
it's a really nasty soil, you got to go in
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there and you ask them a compost or whatever to it,
and you do till it or plow it and start.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All over again.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But yes, you could be subject to turning up more
weed seeds not seeing your lawn. I can't say at
one percent, but my feeling is this, if you're going
to kill everything out the tenacity doesn't take out grass,
that can work as a bit of a premerger for
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you also. But I would look at the thing about
doing this in the falls, the fact that weed seeds
don't come up as much in the fall as they
would if we were doing this in the springtime. So
if I looked at your lawn and I said, okay,
I'm want to kill everything out. So what I'd let
it grow, make sure it's growing, actively growing, and spray
the entire thing with a non selective vegetation killer. All right,
(09:00):
that kills everything that's there, and that's a hard thing
to do sometimes, But kill everything that's there with a
non selective And that was one of the things I
was going to talk about today, or the different options
you have for non selective herbicides. And after I'm after
we take the break here, I'll come back and I'll
talk more about that. But but killing it all out
with a non selective herbicide, and it has to be
(09:20):
actively growing for that to be effective. And once that
and then you spray ten days two weeks later, it
should start to really losing color, turning brown whatever. At
that point, then you can take your mower and then
scalp it, take it right down as low as you can.
All right, then, and this is what I would do.
(09:41):
Then I would come back with a core air raider
and I would core air rate that five thousand square
foot area and pull those plugs out and open that up. Right,
You'd be amazed if you just did that and nothing
else and then came back and seated the difference that'll
make to that soil, but core errate it. Then I
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would come back with a compost, a really fine compost,
and I would top dress that whole area and I
would rake it in nice.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And then you're were only talking a quarter of an
inch or so.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Okay of this of this compost on top, some of
that will go down in those cores. And that's good.
That's what you would. Now we're getting organic matter down
into the soil. Then you come back, and that's a
that's an extra step that is well worth it. Now
you come back and you rent yourself a slice seedar
or slit seedar they're called sometimes, And what that does
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is cuts a groove into your existing soil and through
the existing dead material and the compost that's down there.
It'll cut a groove and drop the grass seed which
is in a hopper just above it, in those grooves.
So it gives you good seed soil contact. And then
you can come right back. And you can you could
have either put the starter fertilizer down and then seed
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or seed come right back with us the starter fertilizer.
Put that down and you are ready to go. Now
it's all moisture dependent. So now you've either got to
set up the sprinklers or at least watered in or
let mother nature do her thing. I would not do
the peat moss. I think it's too expensive. I would
do the compost. That'll help you out a bunch, and
(11:18):
then you go from there. But you've broken that soil
with a slice seed or it's amazing what that'll do
for you. You core aerrated it, you open it up,
you added composts back, you've done your seating, you've done
your starter fertilizer. Now you're in the hands of mother nature,
and then you go from there. But I would stay
away from the peat moss. Used to do that thirty
years ago. Don't do that so much today. The compost,
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the really fine composts, sometimes the comtail that can be
used for you as well. Watch the phs on that.
But that can be used in a situation like that.
But that's the direction I would go if I was
revamping that five thousand square foot area.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Quick break, we come back. Mary and Tad.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
You're coming up next, and I'll talk about these non
selective herbicides that are available for yet there, which ones
you're gonna use?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You got lots of choices.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Talking about it here on news radio six ten WTVN,
talking to Yarding here on news radio six to ten WTVN,
A two to one WTVN lawn renovation. You know it's
this is a time between now and the end of September.
This is when you want to get her done, no
matter what it is, seating, overseating, new seating, killing it out,
starting all over the starter fertilizer. The first feeding of
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your lawn is in September. Regular feeding. If you don't
do anything to the lawn, it's in September as well.
So we got a lot of things going on over
the next six weeks to try to keep that lawn
looking good. And trust me, if you're looking at your
lawn right now, and I don't know too many out
there that look really good. I mean there are some
that's been well irrigated and maintained. But you know, if
it's looking a little rough right now, things you need
(12:50):
to do to it, perk it back up. But if
it's looking really good, you say, I don't think I'm
gonna do anything to it. I think we're in good shape.
Don't do that. Continue to feed the two times in
the far like, we recommend to keep it as healthy
as possible. Now we were talking about killing everything out right,
and there's a lot of situations where you want to
get rid of everything and start all over again.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So what do I use?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, a lot of folks have of course been turned
off by the glyphosate that's in Roundup. Well, round Up,
as I explained earlier this year, changed the formula on
their Roundup Weed and grass killer for the homeowner version.
Now this is the homeowner version with their new exclusive formula,
and it says that on the front, the exclusive formula.
So when you buy, if you're going with the Roundup,
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make sure you look and see which one you have
because some of the old bottles are still on the shelf.
But it has three different herbicides in it, and it's
the label and restrictions are different than the original round
Up with the glyphosate. And if you're putting it down,
if you're going to do the seven days I think before,
you can recede grass when using this one, but you
you've got longer periods of waiting for planting shrubs afterwards
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and that type of thing. It's a different setup. It's
three different nerb sides in there. You want to read
the label for the new roundup if you're like me
and you still want to use glyphosate because it does
such a great job kills all by fertilome is glyphosate
always has been, and as a matter of fact, the
percentages are higher in fertiloan products and do I've always
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thought it a better job. But fertilome kills all has
the glyphosate. So if you want to stick with that,
that's what you want to look for, and you'll find
fertilan products that you're locally owned independent garden centers. You
won't find it in box stores. It's fertilome. And then
if you say, well, I don't want that, but I
don't want the three chemicals that are in the new roundup,
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Gluposcinate is the next one that they're pulling the glyphosphate
out of and putting that one as a substitute, because
it's also a systemic, pretty safe to use. Fert lomes
is called decimate. Tell them, I'm telling you it doesn't
do the job that round up that glycasse does that
kills all, But it's there for you if that's what
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you want.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
To use.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And then if you want to go all natural, Fertilome
and other companies as well have they're all natural, non
selective vegetation killers. Fertile homes happens to be grass and
weed killers, what it's called organic grass and weed killer
made out of fatty acids of soap. Now, these products
only burn the tops of the foliage. They really don't
(15:27):
do much as far as the root system, but they'll
burn the tops off for you. So for annuals not bad.
For perennials, not so good because the perennial roots are
still there. Now they'll say they go down and kill,
you know, and they'll do a few of the roots,
there's no doubt, but not rarely. If it's a tough,
durable perennial weed you're trying to get through with having
(15:49):
it there. These organic ones are a little bit they're
just not that effective. Top burn the tops, but not
necessarily bottom. So there are alternatives for you. And if
you want to stick with the glife estate like Roundup
used to be, you got kills all by Furtilom and
that's out at your local independent garden center, So keep
that one in mind if that's what you're looking for
(16:11):
all Right, Mary, good morning.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
I have a slope that I need to receed, Yes,
but I need crown vetch. Where can I find crown
vetch seed?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I would check with a feed store, a farm store,
you know, a place like that. And most garden centers anymore,
rarely does anybody ask for vetch, crown vetch and so,
and they'll use it for a cover crop sometimes in
a vegetable garden. And so the demand isn't there for
the garden centers to have it. I mean, you can
(16:46):
call around and look, but I don't I rarely ever
see in the garden center. So you're gonna wind up
going online to get that unfortunately, you know, and I
don't have a source for you to go to that.
I know that's reputable, but uh to me, and that
they will probably try to sell you, and you should
get it an inoculate to go with it to make
(17:06):
sure that that germinates nicely. I would have you seen
successful plantings of the crown vetch in other areas, Mary.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Usually on the roadside on a slope, okay, right, uh huh.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And I just you can and you do whatever you
want to do. But I look at crown vets sometimes,
and I'm not trying to talk you out of it.
I just want you to make it. Make sure you're sure,
because I've probably seen more not very good plantings of
crown vetchs, and I have good plantings of crown vetch.
It can be a little tough sometimes to get established,
(17:45):
and sometimes it'll start to kind of poop out a
little bit on you. You've got to stick with it
and sometimes do some receding. But I it's out there
and they still use it on some pretty serious slopes.
I probably haven't recommended crown vets besides as a like
I said, a green crop or a you know, a
vegetable cover crop on a slope for quite some time,
(18:05):
just just because I don't see that many really good
plantings of it. But there are some out there. That's
why I was making sure that you've seen it maybe
in your area, that it's done fairly well. And if
that's the case, I would say go for it. But
you're gonna have to go online, I would imagine, unless
you check with a couple of local farm stores to
find out ground best seed.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah, we had it on the slope, but it got
cut several times. It was out of our controller. Oh yeah,
but this it did well when it was there.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Oh good, but the great but.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
The slope got cut and it got scraped, so it
took took it out right, yeap.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And then so that's why I'm saying, if you've seen
it and you know it's done well in your area,
then you go for it. And I think it's a
beautiful you know, in an area where you just let
it grow and do its thing. It's absolutely beautiful groundcover,
especially when it's in flower.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Right.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
And the one we had was like a fern leaf.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I think there's two kinds of crowns etch and we
had the one that looked.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Like a fern. Oh cool, without the flower.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
So okay.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
A farm store, yeah yeah, farm supply, tractor supply, Real King,
they may have it, but otherwise you're gonna have to
go online.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Yeah. We were trying to do it local, you know,
within you know. Oh absolutely, okay, okay, great, thank you
very much.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
All right, good talking with a quick break, We come back.
Mary number two, you're coming up next. Paul, you're on
hold as well. Uh, taking your calls at eight two
to one WTV in here on News Radio six y
ten WTV in before we go back to the gardening
phone lines, a couple mentions here for you want to
remind everybody that if you're looking for something to do
(19:52):
next Saturday, besides the Buckeye game, which is in the evening,
this is during the day, don't forget the fifty eighth
Annual Dahlias Show is coming up next Saturday and Sunday.
On Saturday, it's from one to five. On Sunday, it's
one to four. It's at the Union County YMCA and Marysville.
It's a really cool show. Of course, you get to
meet Jeff and Linda Lane and all their friends in
(20:13):
the Dahlia Society there. But again go to their website
Columbus Dalias dot com. That's Columbus Dalias dot com to
learn more about that and to learn more about dahlias
as well. That could be a lot of fun next
weekend if you look for something to do. And then
coming up on September the eighth, that's on a Sunday
(20:33):
from one un till five. It's the Columbus Garden Railway
Society's Garden Railway Garden Tour and they have twelve homes.
I think this year in various locations around Franklin County
and they're all different small scale train sets and all
of that plus the themes and the landscaping and the
old nine Yards a lot of fun to learn more
(20:54):
about that tour. And this is I think there maybe
the thirty fifth, thirty six years something like that. So
go to their website. It's the cg RS dot org,
the cg RS dot org and learn more and it's
a free event. So again that's the Coumbus Garden Railway
Society's Garden Tour that will be coming up on September
(21:17):
the fifth. So you got a couple of things there
to do a couple weekends in a row. If you're
looking for something a little bit extra and kind of unique,
to visit some of those gardens and learn how to
grow Dally is back to the gardening phone lines.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
We shall go.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Mary, good morning, Yes, thanks for taking my call, and
thank you also for all these wonderful announcements, because it's
great to know what's going on around town. Good thank you,
you're welcome.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
I was I've heard your feature the poison ivy treatment
and I can't remember the name of it, and I
had to have somebody cut down a lot of poison
ivy around my ear and I was wanting to share
that in form.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Me with this person.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Zanfell z A N F E. L And And their
website is Zanfel dot com. Okay, and uh, it's it's
great stuff. I'll tell you it does work. There's no doubt.
It's been talking about that for a long time. But
as yeah, uh, and usually this time of the year
when folks are getting back out starting to clean things
(22:24):
out and clean out the fence rows, and all of
a sudden there's that poison ivy you didn't recognize. And
that's when Zanfell comes to the rescue.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
No, they ran into poison oak also that cover that
also all.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right, interesting story here, Mary, there there is no poison
oak in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Wow, he found a bunch of it on this tree
that was growing on my neighbor's yard.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
If you go to Zanfell's website, that Zanfel dot com,
what you'll find is that poison ivy actually has many
different looks when it comes to the leaf shape, and
they can actually somewhat mimic what do you think poison
oak would look like, but there's technically there is actually
no poison oak in the state of Ohios. It's misdiagnosed
(23:11):
all the time, but there isn't any here strictly poison
ivy and poison sumac. And the thing about sumac is
that you'd have to be standing in a bog I mean,
it literally grows in boggy wet areas, So there's a
real you know, most people would never get the poison sumac.
But poison ivy has many different looks sometimes that's why
it's mistaken as a poison oak, but none in the
(23:32):
state of Ohio. But again, Zanfel, if it had been
poison oak, Zanfel would help to take care.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Of that rash as well.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
All right, appreciate the call. Appreciate you listening to our show. Paul,
good morning.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Yes, sir, Hey, I've got a twenty year old Japanese
maple and the leaves are starting to look like they're burning,
and I don't know, the tree don't look very good.
But I had it another tree that kind of shaded
(24:11):
it and I had to cut it down. But any
did that happen this year? Yes, yes, it has here's.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
The deal with Japanese maples, especially when they're younger, but
even when they're older. If you get into a really hot,
dry summer, and of course we've had timely rainfalls in
some areas and not so timely in others, and it
gets dry and it's hot, especially the hot and in
a situation where it was used to some shading as
an understory tree, and now all of a sudden it's
(24:42):
exposed to full sun, Japanese maples will scorch naturally, that's
just and a lot of times, you know, the edges
of the leaves start to turn crispy and brown, they'll
lose a little bit of color. They don't they aren't
that vibrant red that they were earlier in the season.
And that happens strictly from the exposure to the sun
the heat. And you add on top of that a
(25:04):
little bit of dryness down below, and they scorch really easily. Now,
it's the thing of it is, at this stage in
the game, what I'd be doing is I'd be looking
at that maple pol and I'd be saying, okay, looking
closely and looking at the buds and looking at the stems.
Are they still green and viable. Are the buds for
next year? Because they're all set and they're there, Are
(25:25):
they green and viable?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Is there any die back in there? And if there's not,
you're probably in really good shape. You're going to get
rid of these leaves. Eventually, these scorch leaves will fall
off of there and the tree could be really good
to go for next year. I think the thing I
would I would make sure is that if we go
through dry periods right now, I'd be sure that I'm
giving it a good soaking, let it dry out, give
it a good soaking, just to make sure it's got
(25:49):
good moisture. But I think a combination of the heat
and then not seeing it the heat and the dryness
that we've had, and of course losing that little bit
of shade, filtered shade. We'll do a number on Japanese maples.
They'll scorch very quickly.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Okay, ron, I appreciate that. One more thing. On one
of the main branches, I noticed all some like something
has got into the branch and some of the bark
is coming off on this tree. Anything I can put
on there to stop.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
A well, no, what I would be doing is looking
at is that branch? Is that branch still have leaves
on it?
Speaker 10 (26:29):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Yeah, it's one of the main branches.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, because sometimes when they go under stress from all
the things we were just talking about, sometimes that'll cause
the branches or the trunk to crack and you'll see
the bark actually start to crack just because of the
stress that the tree is under. So what you want
to do is watch that to make sure. Sometimes you
get a few rolli polleis in that that'll get back
in there and just make things worse. So, no, you
(26:55):
don't want to put anything on that. Let it seal
itself back over. If there's loose bark on there, you
can take like a pen knife only cutting as deep
as that bark and get rid of that. But otherwise,
let that thing seal itself over. And if you're not
really sure what to do, Paul, if you take a
picture of that that's cracking and the overall tree and
(27:15):
a couple of the leaves, email them to me. I'll
take a quick look at it and give you my
diagnosis and looking at that. But otherwise with the crack,
unless there's a hole or something in there, just leave it.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Alone. Let us seal itself back over.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Okay, Ron, great, Hey, I have a good weekend. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Hey, you too good talking to you.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And you know that's pretty much true with we talk
about anything where you proved a plant, cut the branch off,
whatever it may be. Something hit it, the deer rubs it,
whatever may be. We don't put tree paint on those anymore.
We don't put tree wound dressing on those anymore. We
clear off the bark that's just hanging there. So you've
got the bark by the scar or the wounded area
(27:54):
is attached, firmly attached to the plant.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And you let it go.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And then the exposure of that layer underneath the bark
to sun and to win, and then the environment starts
to cause it to callous back over. And if you
look real close where that's the crack is on the outside,
where the bark's still attached, you'll start to see a
little callous start to grow there. And eventually that callous
comes together and seals that back over. It never heals over,
(28:19):
but it seals back over and will eventually seal that
back up. So we leave it alone and let it
do its own thing. Quick break, we come back, Kevin,
You're coming up next. Couple more tips to share with
you here at the news radio six to ten WTVN. Now,
that would be great music to be working out in
the garden with right now. Right, oh yeah, bouncing around
(28:40):
pulling those weeds, picking a few tomatoes. I think it
would work. Back to the gardening phone lines, we shall go, Kevin,
good morning, Hello Ron, this.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
Long time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Welcome.
Speaker 10 (28:53):
I'm wondering what you think generally about an all clover
lawn and do you have any tips for how to.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
At all clover lawn.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I don't think I would want a micro clover lawn.
I think I would want As a matter of fact,
you're seeing I use use more and more.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
That's what I meant to ask about micro clover lawn.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I like it as a matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
As a matter of fact, I found a company that's
UH that put together special packages that you're now finding
in a lot of the garden centers. Are all called
Flawn F L A W N. And I believe they
were out of Minnesota if I'm not mistaken. But that's
that's what they're doing, is they're putting together these packages
of the micro clovers and some of the other clovers
that you can sew in with your existing lawn and
(29:44):
have both. Because some some stay very the micro clovers
stay very low, you really don't see them as much.
Then you get into the white clovers, which you do see,
and of course they flower, and there's other clovers you
can use in there as well. So you know, I
like that, and I think the concept behind it and
all that, it's it's really nothing new. They used to
(30:04):
do that forty fifty years ago. When you put down
grass seed, you always put the clover with it to
help get the grass he started, and then the grass.
The whole theory was the grass would eventually choke out
the clover or you'd get rid of the clover at
at some point. So it's something that it has been
around for forever. But now with these micro clovers, you know,
they're just they have nestled right in there. Teresa Parker,
(30:27):
who was one of our listeners, they did. She did that,
and she said she kind of laughed because she said,
I put this in our lawn. My husband didn't even
notice it because that micro clover stays down nice and low,
really doesn't flower a whole lot, and he didn't realize
I had done that. They have bees and you know,
really into the pollinators and all, and it's worked great
and they absolutely love it. So timing wise, you can
(30:49):
do it spring or fall. So you're there again as
far as putting this down, And if you go to
the website and I think it's just flawn flawn dot com,
or if I'm not mistaken, or just google flawn, it'll
it'll they will. They walk you through the whole thing.
It's a pretty good website for information, So I like it.
An answer to your question.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
All right, well, how do you control weeds because your
typical lawn weed killer like round us kill the clover.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, well yeah, any most all of the broad leaf
weed killers that you would use that would not kill
the grass will affect clover. That's one of the issues
that you get into is that then we control you.
You hope that what you're trying to do is keep
the lawn as thick as possible because the thicker the lawn,
the fewer insects and disease and weeds.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
That we have.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And typically the weeds pop up where the lawn thins out,
so if that micro clover can help keep that lawn
as thick as possible. Along with the micro clover, hopefully
you don't see as many weeds, and you know if
you do, you've got to go through with like the
crab that the crab grass fork here with a little
work and just try to pop out as many as
(32:02):
you can. But that is one issue to having clover
mixed in with your lawn is the fact that you
know you're not gonna be able to use a broad
leaf wee killer to go after any of the weeds
that are in. There would be more of a hand
pulling and again doing everything you can like you would
in your normal lawn anyway, to keep it as thick
as possible. All right, good talking with you. We've only
(32:23):
got about well, let's go ahead, Ron, Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I have over an acre with I've got areas that
have that creeping Charlie ivy at it. Yes, and I've
used my mower with the lowest setting and kind of
scalped off different areas, but it's just widespread. It's over
an acre that I have. Is there something I can
spray on that?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
One of the best times to go after Creeping Charlie
is in October, and that's true for most all of
the broad leaf weeds out there.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
There are some of the better weed killers on the
market today does a pretty good good job with Charlie.
Fertil Ome's Weed free Zone and Bonney's Weed Beater Ultra,
I think, do a pretty decent job with Charlie. But
what I might be thinking, a suggesting you do, is
instead of going after Charlie right now, is to think
(33:18):
about in those areas where Charlie's growing. In those spots,
the lawn is probably thinned out, it's not as thick,
and Charlie only moves in where the lawn is thinned out.
So why don't we look at right now thickening up
those areas through fertilization, through slice seeding, right through creeping
Charlie right into those bear areas. Get some new seed
(33:40):
in there, some fertilizer in there. Let's get new grass
coming up in there. And if you do that now
beginning of September, by the time we get to the
end of October, which is still a good time to
spray whatever's Creeping Charlie's still left, we could come in
and actually spot treat those areas. That's the best time
to do it in anyway. And now you've got new
(34:02):
grass coming up, we go after Charlie next spring. If
you see any coming up, you go google little spot
treating and then you're good to go.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And we got to go.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Ron.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
If I didn't answer everything for you, email me and
I'll get back to you as quickly as I can.
But in many cases like that, where you get Charlie
or something it's really hard to get rid of. I'm
getting going down low right now, seed right through it,
get that new grass growing, and then come back after
it later can be a very good option for you.
Thanks all of our colors, Thanks our sponsors, Thanks of
course to l our producer, because without La, none of
(34:34):
this stuff would happen. Thanks for the great bumper music
as well. Always appreciate it, and thank you for all
that you do to make our show go. Now do
yourself a favor. Falls right around the corner. Starts next
weekend where you're gonna plan a tree or two or three.
Key planning those data plants. Be paulinator fairly, take care
of those bees, pamper your worms, get the kids and
dogs involved with guarding, and by the all means make
it the best weekend of your life.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
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