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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden here on news radio six ten WTVN
eight two to one wtv in eight hundred and six
ten WTVN talking about yard ding and yep, the Buckeyes
play this afternoon, and yep, pregame coverage right here on
six ' ten WTVN. The best the Buckeye coverage right
here on six to ten WTVN. But you got plenty
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of time to get out work in the yard and garden,
get things taken care of early, get yourself in lunch, shower,
and then get bray to relax and watch a little
football come three thirty, and I can't wait to see
that forty eight and a half point favorite. Wow, that's something.
And I'll tell you who is really really excited. And
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I'll tell you who's going to be in front of
his TV probably no later than two fifty nine. That
would be mister Buggy Joe Buggs. Buggy Joe Bugs. This
is a professor Ohio State University Extension, Hamilton County associated
fact with you owsh you Department Entomology. Their website is
bygl dot. Good morning, sir, and go Bucks.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good morning and go Bocks. And I'm really glad you
introduced us as being, you know, the pre game you know,
the pregame warm up.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, we are the pregame warm up.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We are the prere we are.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, we're the pre game warm up for the pregame coverage.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, yes, it just starts now.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's just starting right now. We're going to talk about
you're going to carry it right into the game, starting
right now.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So I'll tell you, I'm going to talk about a
very interesting, very interesting fly.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Everything you talk about is interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That behaves like an Ohio State linebacker. How do you
like that?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh that's pretty good? Yeah, or anybody on the defense.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Or anybody, Oh my goodness, that's right. He could be. Yeah.
But you know, you have to think about the positions
where somebody gets a really good, you know, a really
good running start right before because while we're talking about
are robber flies. And the title of the posting that is,
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let's see where's that post that you got two choices?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You got two choices. You can go to byg L
dot O SU dot eedu, or you can go to
Ron Wilson online.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Dot com, Ron Wilson online dot com one of your
favorite insects, and I had to get this posted. Oh,
we're getting pictures. So what we're talking about are robber flies.
And the name just says it all. You know, this
is a group of flies that well, they they kind
of look like flies. Their bodies are elongated. But what
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they have that really stands out is they have these
very long legs. But then they have a thorax and
that's the part of the insects just behind the head.
And in case a robber flies, it looks like it
looks like a ball, it looks like it's a hump back,
it looks like it has it looks like it's playing
in football pads. How do you like that? Just keep
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bringing up and that four ax is designed as a
battering ram. That's exactly how it works for most species.
And I have to be kind of careful about paint
with too broad a brush. But in the case of
the lead fly, the maroon leged lion fly, which is
really which pretty good size, what they do, that's, like
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I said, like one of the defensive positions where you
get a running start at the ball carrier. They fly
at their prey. And I've seen and heard and heard
is very important. I've heard this twice. They fly at
the prey and they hit the prey in mid air.
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You stop and think about that. And if the prey
is something like what I saw twice, bald faced tornets,
I mean, you know that's not generally an insect that
other insects mess around with, right, So they fly at
at full speed, they hit it, it stuns their prey
in this case, as I said, bald faced hornets. And
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you can actually hear it sounds like a snapping sound.
You can. Well, let's back up. The robber flies themselves
when they fly, they make a very distinct buzzing sound.
You you can hear the bigger ones coming from a distance.
But when they hit that prey, it makes a snapping
sound and it stuns the prey. So you imagine, you know,
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it's it's been hit by something. It's kind of falling
through the air. But then the robber fly grabs it. Yeah,
that's that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Actually, when they're flying, they're not buzzers. Got to hit something,
got to hit something, got to hit something.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I'm gonna get it. And so if you look
at the images I posted on Ron Wilson a line
dot com or b y g L buckeyeyard and garden line.
I was able to capture well, what are properly called
tarsel claws at the ends of their their legs, but
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they're they're like grappling hooks. They're big hooks, and when
the praise tumbling through the air, the fly grabs it
with these grappling hooks and then they use their piercing
sucking mouth parts to inject two things.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
One that's when they say, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That's exactly right. They just this is all happening very fast.
They inject a neurotoxin that of course paralyzes the prey.
But then the real the real work is done by
by enzymes we call protolytic enzymes. That basically are they do.
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That's why, Yeah, I mean I wrote that and I
just made that part up. But they're like they're like
digestive enzymes. Of course, those enzymes are held inside the
exoskeleton of something, like I said, a bald faced hornet,
and it just dissolves, you know, the insides of their
prey and then they land or depending on you know,
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some of them hang. Like there's one that I call
the hanging thief robber fly. They land and stick their
mouth parts back into the their prey and have an insects.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Slurpy, little slurpy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
A little slurpy. So they're they're really well, Okay, bald
taste hornets are beneficial insects. We talked a bit about
them last week and we'll probably talk about them more.
But robber flies are predators, and the larvae are predators,
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so the immature of the maggots feeding in the soil
also are predators, so their beneficial insects. The main point though,
for both of us, is that we want to make
sure that people people do understand that these aren't going
to come after you. I mean we've had we've had people,
you've had, you know, send a picture. This will be
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there out on their deck and this giant fly lands
there and this, oh my goodness. You know. Now, lets
you now that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Now they hit you outside the head well.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Or if you jump up in the air and start
trying to fly off, all bets are off right. Yeah really,
But just like our linebacking corps, I mean, I keep
going to the linebackers because they you know, that's a
big position, right, So that's how the robert flies make
a living. And you can see them, and we're getting
pictures of them, and people are wondering, what does this
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big buzzing fly. They won't come after you, though, No.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And and that almost looks like a helmet on their back.
I mean there they look like they have no neck.
Two big guys, a big helmet on their back. So
they just ram the heck out of whatever they're going
to ram and say, you ain't seen nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yet, and then they and yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And of course you have some these grip pictures are
great on this posting of different types. And you had
the one of it eat the one them meeting yellow jacket.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh yeah, the hanging thief is eating a yellow jacket.
I also have. Now there's a group of robber flies
where you know, as I say, it kind of pushes
into the beneficial status to the limit, because these are
sometimes called bee killer robber flies, and they do. They
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do focus a bit on honey bees. Now they'll feel
in other hymenoptraa and and other flies, but they really mimic.
In fact, the picture that I show at first I thought.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You thought I thought those were bees at first.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, they're mating. It's a male and female, and of
course you know that doesn't work, you know, with the
way bees do things most of the time. So it
was just a very odd thing when I saw it.
But as I said, they're you know, they're not so
many of them that they actually represent a threat with
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honey bees or other other pollinators. But they are out
there and and they do they do mimic bees, by
the way. You will find those though, sometimes on flowers
because they'll sip neckar in between their their meat meals.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh you got to have a little sweet afterwards.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know, you want to chocolate or something after you
your meat meal.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's right, meat and potatoes meal.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know. They they actually they actually all the the
whole group of robber flies. They all have the same
saying that they use. And it's a what Hayes quote
by the way, that they all use. Uh, you know,
pass it from generation to generation.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm waiting.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell
kicked out of you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh god, yeah, And that's a.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Quote from what he Hayes And they use that all
the time. When they ran into the side of the
and then they say, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
One of my favorites, one of my favorite bugs anyway,
Robert fly So if you want to see it, go
to Ron Wilson online dot com or b Y G
L the Beagle and they've got all these posted for
you as well. Quick break, we come back more with
Buggy Joe Boggs Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson
on News Radio six to ten WTVN. You ain't seen
nothing yet, now tell me, Joe Boggs, when you hear
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this song, do you think of Papa Joe's I do.
It's like that was like a theme song up there
there you go. That's what the Robert Flyes say when
they bang into some other bug. You ain't seen nothing yet,
and and.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
The other bug goes just happened.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, they don't. They can't even speak in the
memory of what he hayes. Here we go boom.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know, I don't have a we don't have a
theme song for this segment?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
What for which one?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, I mean, I just I think we just heard it. Yeah,
I think when when you when you go out there
and walk around and you think you've seen something really interesting,
ain't seen nothing? Yet it's true every you know, I
just we just finished up. The last three days are
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just wonderful. We had a you know, we had this
this group of people with extension called the Oh Issue
Buckeye Environmental Horticulture Team, and uh we we came together
over thirty years ago as the Extension Nursery, Landscape and
Turf Team. So that really that really says, you know,
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what we focus on. We primarily focus on the horticultural
aspects of things. So we did change our name because
we started becoming a little more broad than just a nursery,
landscape and turf, right, so environmental horticulture teams. For the
last three days, we had what we called the Queen
City Tour, so different team members were down here and
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we were at the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and Zoom, and
then then we visited Spring Grove Arboretum and Cemetery. And
then yesterday we visited the site that you know is
almost is really worth driving down to. It's called boy
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Or Farm and it's not too far off of inter
State seventy five. It's it's I guess what kind of
close to Mason, pretty close to.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Mason seventy one?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Did I say, yeah, seventy. Actually it's pretty close to both.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You know, oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, you can get that. But you're right, seventy one
from Columbus. That would be every year they have the
biggest plant sale. Everyone's invited. The prices are really good,
and what they focus very heavily on our native plants
and something that was that was brought up yesterday. The
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manager there is Brian George and he's been at that
for a long time. Two things happen at Boyer Farm.
Number one, it's where they produce most of the annuals
and perennials now that they eventually use. When I say
produce propagate, sometimes they'll buy in and you know, finishing containers.
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But it's what you're going to see if you go
to the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and zoo. So that's that's
a big thing that they do. But the other thing
is really interesting Ron and I and we spent some
time yesterday discussing it is they'll do evaluations. So for example,
golden rod. I did not realize we had so many
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species of golden rod, and of course we know it's
such an important place late season flowering plant, so very
important for pollinators when there's not much else around. But
even though golden rod is natives, some of it can
get a little bit out of hand, can't it.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I mean a little bit, a little bit every now
and then you get somebody else say they actually sell
golden rod in the garden centers.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, yeah, I say, yes, there.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Are some great selections of golden rod that you want
to try, absolutely a lot of which was developed from
through them.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Through them, Yes, I didn't you know. I didn't know that.
I mean it was I mean, of course, I've been
living under a horticultural rock, as you know for years
and come out and just peer at insects, But I
did not know that they had that kind of work
was going on. But it is going on, and what
they like to focus on is looking at native plants,
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doing selections, like with golden rod, which ones behave better,
and then you know, working with propagators and producers to
get it on the market, which I think is a
pretty remarkable last step, because you know how many times
have you and I visited places where they do a
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lot of work with Nadia plants, But then you can't
buy them anywhere. You can't find them anyplace, and in
this case, that's a big goal, is to try to
help people to then just have a much greater diversification
of their garden, you know, by being able to plant
things that are are going to behave well, but also
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then provide a kind of services that we hope to
see with these firing plants. So it was just it
was a wonderful three days. We saw a lot of things.
But you know, as the upcoming week will reveal. But baby,
you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Away you have another posting this week that I thought
was great, and I know we don't have enough time
to go over all of these, but it's the wheelbug.
And you talk about something that you ain't seen nothing yet.
You know when you see when you see wheelbugs out
there in the garden, you know, you you back off
because you're not sure what that thing is. It looks
like something prehistoric. And and your point right now is
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the fact that of course these are predators. They are
on the hunt. As you say, look but don't touch,
and uh, they can put a pretty good snap, pretty
good bite into you if they get a hold of you.
And I think what you said and there was similar
to a to a hornet sting. But yeah, they're pretty
nasty cool look at insect, but can do a number
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on you.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well they can. They're very beneficial. But I actually described
this has happened more than once where the adult I'll
be trying to take a picture and that you know,
like of course I need to have it on something
like a stick or something, and more than once that
thing is turned around start you know, marching towards my
fingers and I don't know what it's going to do,
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but you know, more than once it's ended up experiencing
the pull of gravity. Uh as I as I'm making
kind of a kind of an undignified sound because they
are Again I don't know if it's being aggressive because
you know, it thinks that that I'm another predator, because
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they will do that. I mean, that's not uncommon for predators,
or if it's my fingers, it thinks my fingers are
giant caterpillars. But yeah, you do. You don't want to
handle these. Also, it's it's important for listeners to go
online and look at this because we do have a
native kissing bug and this comes up every year. Uh
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it's it has a horrible sounding name. You and I've
talked about this before. It's a blood sucking cone nose.
It's awful sounding name. The the uh the wheelbugs are
commonly mistaken for the kissing bugs, and occasionally well not
so much vice versa. But the reason people become concerned
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and they think they're seeing a kissing bug is that
in other parts of the world, and I really want
to be very deliberate about that, kissing bugs can carry
protozoan parasites called trapanasamacuzi, and it is the pathogen behind
Segi's disease. So that is a concern, but not in Ohio.
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And we do have a native kissing bug, but it
has not shown well. First, we don't have shagis as
developing in Ohio from kissing bug bites. It really is
not a kind of kissing bug that typically marches specifically
after people. It feeds mostly well, it feeds on small animals.
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It is a bloodsucker, as a name implies. But it's
important I think maybe if there's particularly if you have
a home in the woods, they can these kissing bugs
can occasionally come into your home. And we just want
to make sure people understand that now they're they're they're
not like what you read online in terms of you know,
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being a serious threat.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know what I'm thinking this whole time. I still
remember the story about your son Nicholas when the principal
called principal call and they had to go in because
he had called somebody a name and what was about
the fifth grade and he said, somebody tripped him in
the hallway and he said, what did you call him?
He said, he called him a blood sucking cone. No,
so you know you knew it was your son, you know,
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sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's uh, yes, don't teach your children this uh by
I mean, and the big one is, do not teach
them what frash? Yeah yeah, yeah, well well we'll just
leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I've told you the story Mike with my oldest Megan
was when we're in the pool one time and somebody said,
anybody you know loved you like the Beatles. Everybody remember
the Beatles' names, and she was like June Japanese. Uh,
just like that's your daughter, Ron. Yeah. Oh, can I.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Say, that's good? You never told me that story.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And that that was that's for real.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So there you go, and that's Megan and that's Megan, right.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh, yeah, and that's necklace by the way too. So
yeah about us judging the Science Fair and taking him
with us. So we had somebody that really knew what
we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That's right, that's right, Nicholas.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And he was like the fifth or sixth grade. So
there you go, smart like it's smart like his mother, Joe.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
You said that right, exactly right.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Always a pleasure, great information. Again, what the us say something?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'm just gonna say, go box, there you go. I
mean that is how we're going to have to end this.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
B y g L dot sho dot e edu go bucks.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Go box Ron, take care and have a great All right, we'll.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Take a quick break. We come back. Phone lines are
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It is we're pre coverage. You know, the best buck
eye coverage is coming up after lunch right uh here
on six to ten WTVN. Then we're the pre best
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buck eye coverage. Uh, leaning up to that. So good
good to have you with us listening this morning. And
I am excited to get the bucks going let's get
this football season going. I can't wait to see what
happens here and get to find out see who's who's
on the team, who's doing well? All these kids in
and I don't know port, I don't know. I can't
keep up with the names anymore. But obviously looking forward
to seeing what's going to happen here and getting the
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season under underway. By the way, speaking of which, I uh,
you know, this is the way that and I said
this at the beginning, I think if I didn't, I
meant to. But looking out, you know, we've had the heat,
we have had the sun, we have had lack of rain.
And it depends on where you are. As far as
the lack of rain. South I think it's southeastern Ohio
is pretty dry. Southwestern I was showing pretty dry as well,
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you know, in south of Columbus, more dry than north
of Columbus. But you know, so it depends on where
you are. But the thing of it is, you know,
I look at right now in my landscape, especially in
the beds around the patio and some of the containers,
and we've been trying to keep up with the with
you know, watering and dead heading and dead foliage, and
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it's just taken a toll on a lot of those
annuals and plantings in the containers and in the beds,
and I think that probably for the first time in
a long time, I was sitting there looking at it
last night saying, you know, I got to I don't
like the looks a lot of this stuff. I'm going
to be tearing stuff out next week. I'm guessing and
preppingose to do a little bit of fall replanting. And
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that's normal, you know, to take out annuals that don't
look good come back with your fall mums and panges
and cabbage and kale and all that kind of stuff.
So yeah, I just think it looks probably one of
the worst I think ours anyway right now. And they're
going to be doing a lot of that. But I
want to remind you that, you know, as we look
to do this, if you're getting ready to do that
as well, start to make the switch over to the
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fall colors. If you have some extra containers that you're
not going to use, that you know, twelve fourteen, eighteen
twenty inches in diameter, that you're not going to use
and replant, think about turning those into a quick salad
garden that will will supply you with greens in mid
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to late September, October and even into early November, depending
on the weather. And you can take over those containers.
And I love doing this, take those over, and like
I said tournament, basically, you're looking at solid greens and
things you you'd be using at slid so that will
tolerate or enjoy the cooler temperatures. So you get out
to your local garden center. You know, some lot of
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this can be so from seed, and if it's from seed,
you want to get on it right away, all right,
So you want to get these up and growing. I mean,
you can direct seed right into the containers, but you
can be looking at herbs. There's gonna be a lot
of herbs available for you in containers that you can
just put right in there. And again they're gonna love
September October, and if it's like last year at all,
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we didn't really see any good frosts until you know,
we got into November. It's easy to cover those over
or pull them up by the patio and then put
them back out in the front, so it's easy to
move them around. But herbs of all kinds can be
grown in the fall, and of course perennial herbs are
tough and they'll take they'll take all of that. But
a fresh crop of herbs can be done. A rougel love,
very popular in solads right now, can be easily done
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from seed. There are some beans that will produce in
less than sixty days. You might want to take a
look at that. Beats and turnips mostly growing for looking
to grow it for the foliage to use in there,
but if you last long enough, you could wind up
getting some beats and turnips in the bottom of pock joy.
How about poc joy? Do you like pockjoy? I? Do
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you need a fresh or cooked especially if you do
a lot of Asian foods that is so easy to
grow it's crazy And you can put those again right
in your container and go from that. Spinach obviously easy,
easy peasy let us easy peasy carrots. Get the shorter ones,
get the ones that don't get very long, Get the
shorter ones. Great foliage on the top, little carrots inside.
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Green onions. If you can find some onion sets, you're
still some sitting around. Those are great for right now.
Kale let us. Of course we talked about that ratish
is unbelievable. If you can find French breakfast ratish seeds
right now, you can plant those and have those coming
up for you in October ready for you to harvest
just the best to pull out of there about little
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finger size and eat those unbelievable Swiss charred I love.
It's either you'll find it labeled either giant red or
big red. Mustard greens talk about dinner in a show.
You can grow these some seed and sometimes you'll find
them sold as an ornamental fall plant new gardens because
they turn red as the temperatures get colder. But it's
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a mustard green good, the mustard flavor. Mustard greens flavor
with a horse radish kick, and it is outstanding to
cut those up and eat, to cook with them, and
you're in your green beans or whatever your greens, or
just cut them up in small pieces and put them
in a salad. Unbelievable. And last but not lease, I
think I mentioned the Swiss chard. But the last but
not least will take a break here, and I got
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a couple questions of folks have called in, and we'll
answer it right after the break. Cilantro if you had
a hard time growing cilantro because of the heat, because
it hates the heat. It'll flour bowl for you right away,
and you get that's obviously is a coriander, so keep
the seeds for that. But cilantro is well easy to grow,
loves the cooler temperatures through September, October and November. So
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if you've had a hard time growing cilantro, you can
grow fresh cilantro and those containers as well. So again,
look at those empty pots as you're cleaning things out,
Hey turn them into fall salad bowls. All the greens
and a few root crops you could use in your
salads in late September, October and into November as well. Quick, Breick,
if we come back, I'll answer the questions that we
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Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden here on news radio six ten WTVN
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ten WTVN talking about yard ding and yep, the Buckeyes
play this afternoon, and yep, pregame coverage right here on
six ' ten WTVN. The best the Buckeye coverage right
here on six to ten WTVN. But you got plenty
(00:22):
of time to get out work in the yard and garden,
get things taken care of early, get yourself in lunch, shower,
and then get bray to relax and watch a little
football come three thirty, and I can't wait to see
that forty eight and a half point favorite. Wow, that's something.
And I'll tell you who is really really excited. And
(00:43):
I'll tell you who's going to be in front of
his TV probably no later than two fifty nine. That
would be mister Buggy Joe Buggs. Buggy Joe Bugs. This
is a professor Ohio State University Extension, Hamilton County associated
fact with you owsh you Department Entomology. Their website is
bygl dot. Good morning, sir, and go Bucks.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good morning and go Bocks. And I'm really glad you
introduced us as being, you know, the pre game you know,
the pregame warm up.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, we are the pregame warm up.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We are the prere we are.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, we're the pre game warm up for the pregame coverage.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, yes, it just starts now.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's just starting right now. We're going to talk about
you're going to carry it right into the game, starting
right now.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So I'll tell you, I'm going to talk about a
very interesting, very interesting fly.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Everything you talk about is interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That behaves like an Ohio State linebacker. How do you
like that?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh that's pretty good? Yeah, or anybody on the defense.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Or anybody, Oh my goodness, that's right. He could be. Yeah.
But you know, you have to think about the positions
where somebody gets a really good, you know, a really
good running start right before because while we're talking about
are robber flies. And the title of the posting that is,
(02:11):
let's see where's that post that you got two choices?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You got two choices. You can go to byg L
dot O SU dot eedu, or you can go to
Ron Wilson online.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Dot com, Ron Wilson online dot com one of your
favorite insects, and I had to get this posted. Oh,
we're getting pictures. So what we're talking about are robber flies.
And the name just says it all. You know, this
is a group of flies that well, they they kind
of look like flies. Their bodies are elongated. But what
(02:44):
they have that really stands out is they have these
very long legs. But then they have a thorax and
that's the part of the insects just behind the head.
And in case a robber flies, it looks like it
looks like a ball, it looks like it's a hump back,
it looks like it has it looks like it's playing
in football pads. How do you like that? Just keep
(03:05):
bringing up and that four ax is designed as a
battering ram. That's exactly how it works for most species.
And I have to be kind of careful about paint
with too broad a brush. But in the case of
the lead fly, the maroon leged lion fly, which is
really which pretty good size, what they do, that's, like
(03:29):
I said, like one of the defensive positions where you
get a running start at the ball carrier. They fly
at their prey. And I've seen and heard and heard
is very important. I've heard this twice. They fly at
the prey and they hit the prey in mid air.
(03:52):
You stop and think about that. And if the prey
is something like what I saw twice, bald faced tornets,
I mean, you know that's not generally an insect that
other insects mess around with, right, So they fly at
at full speed, they hit it, it stuns their prey
in this case, as I said, bald faced hornets. And
(04:16):
you can actually hear it sounds like a snapping sound.
You can. Well, let's back up. The robber flies themselves
when they fly, they make a very distinct buzzing sound.
You you can hear the bigger ones coming from a distance.
But when they hit that prey, it makes a snapping
sound and it stuns the prey. So you imagine, you know,
(04:37):
it's it's been hit by something. It's kind of falling
through the air. But then the robber fly grabs it. Yeah,
that's that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Actually, when they're flying, they're not buzzers. Got to hit something,
got to hit something, got to hit something.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I'm gonna get it. And so if you look
at the images I posted on Ron Wilson a line
dot com or b y g L buckeyeyard and garden line.
I was able to capture well, what are properly called
tarsel claws at the ends of their their legs, but
(05:14):
they're they're like grappling hooks. They're big hooks, and when
the praise tumbling through the air, the fly grabs it
with these grappling hooks and then they use their piercing
sucking mouth parts to inject two things.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
One that's when they say, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That's exactly right. They just this is all happening very fast.
They inject a neurotoxin that of course paralyzes the prey.
But then the real the real work is done by
by enzymes we call protolytic enzymes. That basically are they do.
(05:54):
That's why, Yeah, I mean I wrote that and I
just made that part up. But they're like they're like
digestive enzymes. Of course, those enzymes are held inside the
exoskeleton of something, like I said, a bald faced hornet,
and it just dissolves, you know, the insides of their
prey and then they land or depending on you know,
(06:16):
some of them hang. Like there's one that I call
the hanging thief robber fly. They land and stick their
mouth parts back into the their prey and have an insects.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Slurpy, little slurpy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
A little slurpy. So they're they're really well, Okay, bald
taste hornets are beneficial insects. We talked a bit about
them last week and we'll probably talk about them more.
But robber flies are predators, and the larvae are predators,
(06:49):
so the immature of the maggots feeding in the soil
also are predators, so their beneficial insects. The main point though,
for both of us, is that we want to make
sure that people people do understand that these aren't going
to come after you. I mean we've had we've had people,
you've had, you know, send a picture. This will be
(07:10):
there out on their deck and this giant fly lands
there and this, oh my goodness. You know. Now, lets
you now that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Now they hit you outside the head well.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Or if you jump up in the air and start
trying to fly off, all bets are off right. Yeah really,
But just like our linebacking corps, I mean, I keep
going to the linebackers because they you know, that's a
big position, right, So that's how the robert flies make
a living. And you can see them, and we're getting
pictures of them, and people are wondering, what does this
(07:40):
big buzzing fly. They won't come after you, though, No.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And and that almost looks like a helmet on their back.
I mean there they look like they have no neck.
Two big guys, a big helmet on their back. So
they just ram the heck out of whatever they're going
to ram and say, you ain't seen nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yet, and then they and yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And of course you have some these grip pictures are
great on this posting of different types. And you had
the one of it eat the one them meeting yellow jacket.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh yeah, the hanging thief is eating a yellow jacket.
I also have. Now there's a group of robber flies
where you know, as I say, it kind of pushes
into the beneficial status to the limit, because these are
sometimes called bee killer robber flies, and they do. They
(08:30):
do focus a bit on honey bees. Now they'll feel
in other hymenoptraa and and other flies, but they really mimic.
In fact, the picture that I show at first I thought.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You thought I thought those were bees at first.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, they're mating. It's a male and female, and of
course you know that doesn't work, you know, with the
way bees do things most of the time. So it
was just a very odd thing when I saw it.
But as I said, they're you know, they're not so
many of them that they actually represent a threat with
(09:07):
honey bees or other other pollinators. But they are out
there and and they do they do mimic bees, by
the way. You will find those though, sometimes on flowers
because they'll sip neckar in between their their meat meals.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh you got to have a little sweet afterwards.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know, you want to chocolate or something after you
your meat meal.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's right, meat and potatoes meal.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know. They they actually they actually all the the
whole group of robber flies. They all have the same
saying that they use. And it's a what Hayes quote
by the way, that they all use. Uh, you know,
pass it from generation to generation.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm waiting.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell
kicked out of you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh god, yeah, And that's a.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Quote from what he Hayes And they use that all
the time. When they ran into the side of the
and then they say, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
One of my favorites, one of my favorite bugs anyway,
Robert fly So if you want to see it, go
to Ron Wilson online dot com or b Y G
L the Beagle and they've got all these posted for
you as well. Quick break, we come back more with
Buggy Joe Boggs Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson
on News Radio six to ten WTVN. You ain't seen
nothing yet, now tell me, Joe Boggs, when you hear
(10:30):
this song, do you think of Papa Joe's I do.
It's like that was like a theme song up there
there you go. That's what the Robert Flyes say when
they bang into some other bug. You ain't seen nothing yet,
and and.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
The other bug goes just happened.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, they don't. They can't even speak in the
memory of what he hayes. Here we go boom.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know, I don't have a we don't have a
theme song for this segment?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
What for which one?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, I mean, I just I think we just heard it. Yeah,
I think when when you when you go out there
and walk around and you think you've seen something really interesting,
ain't seen nothing? Yet it's true every you know, I
just we just finished up. The last three days are
(11:29):
just wonderful. We had a you know, we had this
this group of people with extension called the Oh Issue
Buckeye Environmental Horticulture Team, and uh we we came together
over thirty years ago as the Extension Nursery, Landscape and
Turf Team. So that really that really says, you know,
(11:50):
what we focus on. We primarily focus on the horticultural
aspects of things. So we did change our name because
we started becoming a little more broad than just a nursery,
landscape and turf, right, so environmental horticulture teams. For the
last three days, we had what we called the Queen
City Tour, so different team members were down here and
(12:12):
we were at the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and Zoom, and
then then we visited Spring Grove Arboretum and Cemetery. And
then yesterday we visited the site that you know is
almost is really worth driving down to. It's called boy
(12:35):
Or Farm and it's not too far off of inter
State seventy five. It's it's I guess what kind of
close to Mason, pretty close to.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Mason seventy one?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Did I say, yeah, seventy. Actually it's pretty close to both.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You know, oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, you can get that. But you're right, seventy one
from Columbus. That would be every year they have the
biggest plant sale. Everyone's invited. The prices are really good,
and what they focus very heavily on our native plants
and something that was that was brought up yesterday. The
(13:14):
manager there is Brian George and he's been at that
for a long time. Two things happen at Boyer Farm.
Number one, it's where they produce most of the annuals
and perennials now that they eventually use. When I say
produce propagate, sometimes they'll buy in and you know, finishing containers.
(13:36):
But it's what you're going to see if you go
to the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and zoo. So that's that's
a big thing that they do. But the other thing
is really interesting Ron and I and we spent some
time yesterday discussing it is they'll do evaluations. So for example,
golden rod. I did not realize we had so many
(13:56):
species of golden rod, and of course we know it's
such an important place late season flowering plant, so very
important for pollinators when there's not much else around. But
even though golden rod is natives, some of it can
get a little bit out of hand, can't it.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I mean a little bit, a little bit every now
and then you get somebody else say they actually sell
golden rod in the garden centers.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, yeah, I say, yes, there.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Are some great selections of golden rod that you want
to try, absolutely a lot of which was developed from
through them.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Through them, Yes, I didn't you know. I didn't know that.
I mean it was I mean, of course, I've been
living under a horticultural rock, as you know for years
and come out and just peer at insects, But I
did not know that they had that kind of work
was going on. But it is going on, and what
they like to focus on is looking at native plants,
(14:55):
doing selections, like with golden rod, which ones behave better,
and then you know, working with propagators and producers to
get it on the market, which I think is a
pretty remarkable last step, because you know how many times
have you and I visited places where they do a
(15:16):
lot of work with Nadia plants, But then you can't
buy them anywhere. You can't find them anyplace, and in
this case, that's a big goal, is to try to
help people to then just have a much greater diversification
of their garden, you know, by being able to plant
things that are are going to behave well, but also
(15:37):
then provide a kind of services that we hope to
see with these firing plants. So it was just it
was a wonderful three days. We saw a lot of things.
But you know, as the upcoming week will reveal. But baby,
you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Away you have another posting this week that I thought
was great, and I know we don't have enough time
to go over all of these, but it's the wheelbug.
And you talk about something that you ain't seen nothing yet.
You know when you see when you see wheelbugs out
there in the garden, you know, you you back off
because you're not sure what that thing is. It looks
like something prehistoric. And and your point right now is
(16:20):
the fact that of course these are predators. They are
on the hunt. As you say, look but don't touch,
and uh, they can put a pretty good snap, pretty
good bite into you if they get a hold of you.
And I think what you said and there was similar
to a to a hornet sting. But yeah, they're pretty
nasty cool look at insect, but can do a number
(16:42):
on you.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well they can. They're very beneficial. But I actually described
this has happened more than once where the adult I'll
be trying to take a picture and that you know,
like of course I need to have it on something
like a stick or something, and more than once that
thing is turned around start you know, marching towards my
fingers and I don't know what it's going to do,
(17:05):
but you know, more than once it's ended up experiencing
the pull of gravity. Uh as I as I'm making
kind of a kind of an undignified sound because they
are Again I don't know if it's being aggressive because
you know, it thinks that that I'm another predator, because
(17:28):
they will do that. I mean, that's not uncommon for predators,
or if it's my fingers, it thinks my fingers are
giant caterpillars. But yeah, you do. You don't want to
handle these. Also, it's it's important for listeners to go
online and look at this because we do have a
native kissing bug and this comes up every year. Uh
(17:48):
it's it has a horrible sounding name. You and I've
talked about this before. It's a blood sucking cone nose.
It's awful sounding name. The the uh the wheelbugs are
commonly mistaken for the kissing bugs, and occasionally well not
so much vice versa. But the reason people become concerned
(18:11):
and they think they're seeing a kissing bug is that
in other parts of the world, and I really want
to be very deliberate about that, kissing bugs can carry
protozoan parasites called trapanasamacuzi, and it is the pathogen behind
Segi's disease. So that is a concern, but not in Ohio.
(18:32):
And we do have a native kissing bug, but it
has not shown well. First, we don't have shagis as
developing in Ohio from kissing bug bites. It really is
not a kind of kissing bug that typically marches specifically
after people. It feeds mostly well, it feeds on small animals.
(18:54):
It is a bloodsucker, as a name implies. But it's
important I think maybe if there's particularly if you have
a home in the woods, they can these kissing bugs
can occasionally come into your home. And we just want
to make sure people understand that now they're they're they're
not like what you read online in terms of you know,
(19:15):
being a serious threat.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know what I'm thinking this whole time. I still
remember the story about your son Nicholas when the principal
called principal call and they had to go in because
he had called somebody a name and what was about
the fifth grade and he said, somebody tripped him in
the hallway and he said, what did you call him?
He said, he called him a blood sucking cone. No,
so you know you knew it was your son, you know,
(19:41):
sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's uh, yes, don't teach your children this uh by
I mean, and the big one is, do not teach
them what frash? Yeah yeah, yeah, well well we'll just
leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I've told you the story Mike with my oldest Megan
was when we're in the pool one time and somebody said,
anybody you know loved you like the Beatles. Everybody remember
the Beatles' names, and she was like June Japanese. Uh,
just like that's your daughter, Ron. Yeah. Oh, can I.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Say, that's good? You never told me that story.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And that that was that's for real.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So there you go, and that's Megan and that's Megan, right.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh, yeah, and that's necklace by the way too. So
yeah about us judging the Science Fair and taking him
with us. So we had somebody that really knew what
we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That's right, that's right, Nicholas.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And he was like the fifth or sixth grade. So
there you go, smart like it's smart like his mother, Joe.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
You said that right, exactly right.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Always a pleasure, great information. Again, what the us say something?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'm just gonna say, go box, there you go. I
mean that is how we're going to have to end this.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
B y g L dot sho dot e edu go bucks.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Go box Ron, take care and have a great All right, we'll.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Take a quick break. We come back. Phone lines are
open for you with eight two to one WTVN here
on news radio six ten WTVN. Oh, we are talking
you areding here on news radio six ' ten WTVN.
It is we're pre coverage. You know, the best buck
eye coverage is coming up after lunch right uh here
on six to ten WTVN. Then we're the pre best
(21:21):
buck eye coverage. Uh, leaning up to that. So good
good to have you with us listening this morning. And
I am excited to get the bucks going let's get
this football season going. I can't wait to see what
happens here and get to find out see who's who's
on the team, who's doing well? All these kids in
and I don't know port, I don't know. I can't
keep up with the names anymore. But obviously looking forward
to seeing what's going to happen here and getting the
(21:42):
season under underway. By the way, speaking of which, I uh,
you know, this is the way that and I said
this at the beginning, I think if I didn't, I
meant to. But looking out, you know, we've had the heat,
we have had the sun, we have had lack of rain.
And it depends on where you are. As far as
the lack of rain. South I think it's southeastern Ohio
is pretty dry. Southwestern I was showing pretty dry as well,
(22:06):
you know, in south of Columbus, more dry than north
of Columbus. But you know, so it depends on where
you are. But the thing of it is, you know,
I look at right now in my landscape, especially in
the beds around the patio and some of the containers,
and we've been trying to keep up with the with
you know, watering and dead heading and dead foliage, and
(22:27):
it's just taken a toll on a lot of those
annuals and plantings in the containers and in the beds,
and I think that probably for the first time in
a long time, I was sitting there looking at it
last night saying, you know, I got to I don't
like the looks a lot of this stuff. I'm going
to be tearing stuff out next week. I'm guessing and
preppingose to do a little bit of fall replanting. And
(22:49):
that's normal, you know, to take out annuals that don't
look good come back with your fall mums and panges
and cabbage and kale and all that kind of stuff.
So yeah, I just think it looks probably one of
the worst I think ours anyway right now. And they're
going to be doing a lot of that. But I
want to remind you that, you know, as we look
to do this, if you're getting ready to do that
as well, start to make the switch over to the
(23:11):
fall colors. If you have some extra containers that you're
not going to use, that you know, twelve fourteen, eighteen
twenty inches in diameter, that you're not going to use
and replant, think about turning those into a quick salad
garden that will will supply you with greens in mid
(23:32):
to late September, October and even into early November, depending
on the weather. And you can take over those containers.
And I love doing this, take those over, and like
I said tournament, basically, you're looking at solid greens and
things you you'd be using at slid so that will
tolerate or enjoy the cooler temperatures. So you get out
to your local garden center. You know, some lot of
(23:54):
this can be so from seed, and if it's from seed,
you want to get on it right away, all right,
So you want to get these up and growing. I mean,
you can direct seed right into the containers, but you
can be looking at herbs. There's gonna be a lot
of herbs available for you in containers that you can
just put right in there. And again they're gonna love
September October, and if it's like last year at all,
(24:14):
we didn't really see any good frosts until you know,
we got into November. It's easy to cover those over
or pull them up by the patio and then put
them back out in the front, so it's easy to
move them around. But herbs of all kinds can be
grown in the fall, and of course perennial herbs are
tough and they'll take they'll take all of that. But
a fresh crop of herbs can be done. A rougel love,
very popular in solads right now, can be easily done
(24:38):
from seed. There are some beans that will produce in
less than sixty days. You might want to take a
look at that. Beats and turnips mostly growing for looking
to grow it for the foliage to use in there,
but if you last long enough, you could wind up
getting some beats and turnips in the bottom of pock joy.
How about poc joy? Do you like pockjoy? I? Do
(24:58):
you need a fresh or cooked especially if you do
a lot of Asian foods that is so easy to
grow it's crazy And you can put those again right
in your container and go from that. Spinach obviously easy,
easy peasy let us easy peasy carrots. Get the shorter ones,
get the ones that don't get very long, Get the
shorter ones. Great foliage on the top, little carrots inside.
(25:22):
Green onions. If you can find some onion sets, you're
still some sitting around. Those are great for right now.
Kale let us. Of course we talked about that ratish
is unbelievable. If you can find French breakfast ratish seeds
right now, you can plant those and have those coming
up for you in October ready for you to harvest
just the best to pull out of there about little
(25:43):
finger size and eat those unbelievable Swiss charred I love.
It's either you'll find it labeled either giant red or
big red. Mustard greens talk about dinner in a show.
You can grow these some seed and sometimes you'll find
them sold as an ornamental fall plant new gardens because
they turn red as the temperatures get colder. But it's
(26:03):
a mustard green good, the mustard flavor. Mustard greens flavor
with a horse radish kick, and it is outstanding to
cut those up and eat, to cook with them, and
you're in your green beans or whatever your greens, or
just cut them up in small pieces and put them
in a salad. Unbelievable. And last but not lease, I
think I mentioned the Swiss chard. But the last but
not least will take a break here, and I got
(26:23):
a couple questions of folks have called in, and we'll
answer it right after the break. Cilantro if you had
a hard time growing cilantro because of the heat, because
it hates the heat. It'll flour bowl for you right away,
and you get that's obviously is a coriander, so keep
the seeds for that. But cilantro is well easy to grow,
loves the cooler temperatures through September, October and November. So
(26:47):
if you've had a hard time growing cilantro, you can
grow fresh cilantro and those containers as well. So again,
look at those empty pots as you're cleaning things out,
Hey turn them into fall salad bowls. All the greens
and a few root crops you could use in your
salads in late September, October and into November as well. Quick, Breick,
if we come back, I'll answer the questions that we
(27:07):
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