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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning everybody, Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson and you
are in the garden here on news radio six '
ten the WTV and talking about yard ning, and of
course we are into uh September. Fall is here, and
of course if you're looking next spring to light up
your yard in the spring season, you plant fall bulbs, right,
you plant them in the fall. And so it's this
time of the year we love to bring on our
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ball expert, a really good friend. Love this lady, Love
talking with her because she knows so much about little
everything when it comes to horticulture, especially with the flowering bulbs.
And you know who I'm talking about from the garden,
the media group, Peggy and Montgomery, Good morning. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm great? Are you out doing your Stintson plotting this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Uh? Not yet, but I will be. I've ordered my.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Balls, so as soon as they're in, you're good. You
know you made the crazy you know all of us.
Now that's all we think about. I see I go
out and I see people when I say, what was
that lady doing with her babs against stints stints and something?
And so you know when you started that everybody want
to know what stitts and plotting is. And I think
a lot more folks have actually kind of done that
on a smaller scale in their yards and gardens, you know,
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And I think it's a good thing I do too.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You know, Ron, it doesn't have to be giant to
be great. You can start small. You know, a lot
of us have to kind of do our garden plans
and phases and stuff because maybe we can't afford it
all at once. And that's okay. You know, I have
a pretty large stint of garden in my front yard.
But in my backyard, I just did a little bit
and highlighted some rock that we have, you know, in
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the in the garden and just kind of planted around
them to give them a little highlight in the spring
with just a few hundred little.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Bulbs, and there you go. That's all you have to do.
And of course, if you do that every fall, if
you hear if you're there next thing, you know, you
really light it up in the springtime.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You really do, because all these small spring bulbs they
all multiplied by themselves and naturalized, and so you just
get more and more and more.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And more, all right, Peggy, and Montgomery. I've got so
many questions. We don't have enough time for all of them.
What I'm going to try to work my way through
as much as i can. First of all, was it
true that as a young age you were told that
you should not pursue horticulture because women don't do that?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, that's right. I was told that it was too
hard for women. The work was too hard, the chemistry
and the studies would be too hard. And I'm awfully
glad I didn't listen. But there weren't very many women
in horticulture back in my days, and I'm very happy
to say that that has changed dramatically.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yes, and I'm with you one hundred percent, and we're
seeing more and more women in this industry today. I
know we had Katie Debao on several months ago talking
about this as well, and such an encouraging thing. I mean,
I remember the old days, you know, it was the
kind of the good old boys back you know, it
was all guys in the horticulture industry. And boy, today
we've got so many great women and doing a great job.
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So I am happy that that is happening. Peggy and
Montgomery with us, we're talking about planting bulbs, spring flowering
bulbs that are planted in the fall. So I guess
the first question I always get is why do we
have to plant these in the fall not in the spring?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I know, isn't that crazy? It's so confusing, I think
for consumers that aren't gardeners that you punt spring flowering
bulbs in the fall. But it comes because they originate
from places, you know, in the far East where they're
maybe at upper elevation, and they're used to having a
cold period. They're used to having a cold winter, and
so they really need to go into the ground this fall.
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They're going to push down some roots and get established.
They're going to go through that cold period that's you know,
natural for them, and then they're going to spring, and
then they're going to flower in the spring. And that's
why most pulps need a cold period.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So you know, on our local garden centers now, the
independent garden centers usually start to get their spring flowering
bulbs usually around Labor Day weekend or a week or
so afterwards. So they're just now starting to arrive in
the garden center. So if I'm out and I buy
my spring flowering bulbs. Now, should I go ahead and
plant those now? I mean, there's always been a little
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bit of controversy. I should go ahead and plant them now?
Is it better to wait till the temperatures cooled down?
How do you look at that?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You know, ron I, you know we've talked about this.
I think that you're right that we should wait a
little bit in your area and let the temperatures get
a little cooler and maybe plant in October. So if
you want to buy now to make sure that you
get the kinds you want, go ahead and get them
and keep them in a cool, dark place until you
get ready to plant them in October.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So hold off until it cools down a bit, and then,
you know, and again in October November. Sometimes you find
some bulbs on sail out there and you can scarf
those up. It's not just October. I mean, realistically, we
could still plant even November and decembery so if we
if we needed.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
To, absolutely, you know, the bulbs don't know the rules,
so we can just you know, it's better to get those,
get them in the ground and see if it works,
you know. I mean, that's what gardening's all about. Pushing
the envelope.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I understand that your husband's very good at doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He is, you know, he is so funny. He just
keeps springing things home and keeps springing thing come and
I think it's way too late, and I swear he's
still planting involves at the beginning of December.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Good for him. Talking to Peggy and Montgomery from the
garden media group. Great website. It's flowerbulbs dot com. That's
flower bulbs dot com. So we've got all our flower
bulbs at hand. It's mid to late October, we're getting
ready to plant. How important is it a couple things here?
How important is it to feed the bulbs when we're planting?
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And of course if we're planning a lot of bulbs,
do you I gotta figure you probably use a garden
og or to plant bulbs, not.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Just a hand trow, right, absolutely. First, I just got
to tell you some good news. We got to grant
from the European Union. As you know, in our website
we don't sell anything, but we got to grant from
the EU to help spread this message. So our web
site now it's flower bulb dot Eu. But I can
still find us at flower bulbs dot com But getting
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back to the fertilizer thing, Ron, I think, you know,
if you're going to take the time and trouble to
plant these bulbs and buy them, well, why not just
go ahead and get a little big of organic fertilizer
and make sure they get off to the best possible start.
I just put like a little teeny handful in each hole,
pop a couple of bulbs in there, and they're good
to go that way that you know, that's available to
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the roots right away. And a lot of people will
also add a little organic fertilizer this time of year,
you know, just to make sure the bulbs are getting
beefed up for the next season. And then after they flower,
because remember after they flower and the leaves with or
that's when all the energy is going back into the bulbs.
So that's another good time to maybe just spread a
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little bit of organic bulb fertilizer over them then, just
to make sure they're super strong.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You know. I've had a lot of you know, back
in the old oh I say, the old days, a
lot of they all our gardeners or mature guarders, I guess,
always using bone meal when it came to planting bulbs.
And you know, is bone meal better than some of
the bulb foods I mean, And again I like the
organic like a Spoema's line for instance. I love the
organic bulb tones. It has bone meal in it, but
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it also has other nutrients in that available. Does it
matter which one we use, you.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Know what I think? Either way, you're going to do
your plant that favor. People have been using bone mill
forever and it works, and something like a Stonema's fault tone,
and honestly that's what I buy. It does have that
in it, and it has you know, it's got a
little more scientific formulation, so it's got a few other
things faults need. So either way, you can't go wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Now we're we're we're right now and a sort of
a drought situation in the state of Ohio, very very
dry out there. As we plant bulbs in the fall,
as we're planting trees and shrubs, it's important that we
keep them watered right into the right as we get
into the holiday season. Does that apply to planting spring
flowering bulbs as well?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
You know, that's a great question, and usually run when
we plant in the fall, we get enough. You know,
once you plant you water them in thoroughly. I will
put the sprinkle our atom and just gently let that
water come in and make sure that the soil is
surrounding the bulb. And usually in the fall we get
enough moisture from rainfall that we don't really need to
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do it again. But if you're in a dry period,
and goodness knows, the weather is odds these days go ahead,
you know, like maybe once a week or every other week,
give them a little nor water. You know, they don't
ever want to be wet. But if you have a
really prolonged dry period, I think it would be a
takee bet to give them a little extra Yeah, so make.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sure we do. We're going to include those in our
fall watering if it continues to stay dry, just as
they're starting to get themselves rooted in as well. Very
very important talk with Peggy and Montgomery again. The website
is flowerbulb dot eu and you can check that out.
It's a great website either that flower bulbs dot com.
Either one. We'll take you there, but great one to see.
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All right, So one last question before we take a
break here. So squirrels love to dig up the bulbs
after we're finished, planting. What's your trick or your secret
that keeping those darn critters away from those spring flowering bulbs.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh, they are the worst, I'll tell you. My squirrels
just will dig up any freshly disturbed soil anywhere in
the garden all the time. So there's a couple of
things you can do. Friends of mine. Actually soaks the bulbs,
you know, just puts the bulbs in some like liquid,
you know, deer and animal repellent, and then plants them.
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You know, it doesn't soak them long, just puts me
in and out and that scent is enough to make
them stop. There's other like granual repellents that are all
natural that not going to hurt your dogs or cats
or kids, that you can shake out over that area. Again,
it's like a castor oil and a bad smell that
will keep them away. If you're planting in an area
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that's not too big. Sometimes what people will do is
help plant him. Just put some chicken wire over the
top and pin it down, put malch on top of that,
or do it right in the grass. It's fine, and
just leave that there for a few weeks until the
squirrels are no longer interested in that disturbed soil and
then you can pull it up.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Great information as always, Peggy and Montgomery from the garden
media group website flowerbulb dot Eu take a quick break.
We come back more with Peggy and about planting up
those fall bulbs to light up your yard in the
springtime here on news radio six to ten WTVN. Planting fallbalbs,
if that makes sense, plant them in the fall, light
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them up in the springtime. And our expert is with
us this morning, Peggy and Montgomery. I'll tell you what.
I'm jealous as heck. How'd you wind up getting the
opportunity to work at Mount Cuba Center and Longwood Gardens
as well?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I don't know we're getting all this intel. Ron I
was very happy to go to Monk Cuba's Center and
studying native plants. Native plants, you know, Ron, are really
important to our environment. So it's a really interesting topic.
And I think native plants and not native plants can
live together peacefully. But if you can sneak a few
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natives in there and keep our insects and pollinators well set,
and actually your spring bulbs are going to provide nectar
and pollend for insects too.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh, no doubt. And by the way, I'd love to
live at Longwood Gardens.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh it's a beautiful, beautiful place. But I think there's
some pretty cool places in Cincinnati too.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Uh yeah, there's a few there in Columbus and all
around the state of Ohio. We got Ohio's got a
lot of great botanical gardens and you know, all kinds
of great places. So you're you're absolutely right. But yeah,
something about Longwood, I'll tell you what. I've always loved it. Anyway,
talk with Peggy and Montgomery. We're talking about planting spring
flowering bulbs. You plant them in the fall, reason being
they need that cold experience to set up those buds
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and of course do well force in the springtime. So
in this bring time after these balls, let's say our daffodils,
which is probably the most popular that's planted out there today,
are dune famous spent flowering. Is it important to dead
heads those because sometimes they'll try to go to seed.
I know it takes a lot of energy out of
the ball. Is it important that we need a dead
head or not? Not? Really?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know what, there's always like buy the book and
then real life when it comes to gardening and buy
the book. Should you remove them? Absolutely, That's kind of
with all plants, you know, especially when we want things
to keep flowering, which really isn't the case with bulbs.
But if you have time and you can get out there,
go ahead and pull them off. If you can't, they're
going to come back just fine. It just does take
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a little bit more energy for the plant to produce
some seed.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So if you got if you can do it. If
you don't, don't, you know, not a big problem, but
try to do it if you can.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I think so. I think that goes with dead
heading and everything else we're doing in the garden, just
to make sure that the plants are going in putting
their energy in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
All right. So you know, when we have folks that
are out shopping, and obviously there are places out there
that sell a less expensive bub You go and you
say they're twelve for five bucks, and then you go
to a garden center and they're twelve for ten dollars.
Size makes the difference here, and if you look closely,
you'll find that there are different sized bulbs being sold
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out there. So when you find something really inexpensive, you
should take a look, because size really does matter here.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That does matter, Ron, And you know the other old
added you get what you pay for. You know, when
you do buy a really you know, inexpensive bulb like that,
they're very much smaller, they probably will not bloom as
well the first year. It could be older. It's always
important to buy quality and to get a little bigger
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size is a very good idea. And actually, you know, Ron,
when you think about the price of bulbs and the
price of the annuals we buy just for one year
in our guard n the difference isn't very much at all.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
No, not at all. And of course these keep coming back.
Is the gift that keeps on giving, right, And that's.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The greatest thing.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
We buy annuals and I do too, and I'm going
to compost them in the fall. But these bulls were
planting are at an investment because they're going to come back.
They're going to naturalize and come back every year.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
What about planting these spring flowering bulbs in containers, larger
containers that we would have our annuals in during the summertime?
What about doing those I mean, how cold of temperatures
can they take over the winter or is that something
that if we do the containers, we need to protect
those over the winter.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Great question. So there's kind of a rule of thumb
that if you're going to leave things out in a
container over the winter outdoors, they should at least be
two zones partier than where you are. So ron, are
you a zone seven six six, So that would mean
in your area you could do that if the bulbs
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you're planting are hardy in zones four.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
SOO, look at the PACKAGEE. If they're hardy to zone four,
should be able to leave them out in the container
without trying having to protect them.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Right, but you know what, you know, I would also
protect them if you can, if you can put them
in an area that's out of cold wind, or if
they're smaller, put them in your window wells or snuggle
them up on your porch if you don't use that
in the wintertime, that'll help. And even sometimes people put
them in the garage. But it's a really fun thing
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to do, and forcing bulbs is a blast because spring
comes early, extra early, and you get these beautiful talks
of flowers for your home and to share with other
people to make them happy.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh, you know, I love taking crocus bulbs. Put them
in a four and a half five inch pot, you know,
four or five of them. They're playing them a little
tight and just over the one of those in the
window well or an unheated garage, unheated shed water them
a little bit as needed. But then when they start
to grow and start the flower, take those out and
give them away the neighbors or friends or family or whatever.
What a great gift.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It is a great gift. Ron And I think you
and I and all gardeners know that flowers make people happy,
but there is tons and tons of signs that proves that.
So you know, if you want to make somebody happy,
give them some flowers like that. It's such a precious
thing in the early spring, and to remind everybody that
spring is coming and the light's coming back. I think
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it's a really special thing to do.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Are you too, Hey, I've got a couple of real
quick question here for you. And I'm just curious why
most of the bulbs that we buy in the fall
are from Holland. Why Holland? Why? Why is Holland Why
are they known for growing their bulbs?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I think that they've always
had a fascination with horticulture. Horticulture is a big part
of their whole national identity, like maybe it is in
Britain and some other places. And you know, in the
sixteen hundreds, when the Dutch plant hunters or going out
and bringing back these faulbs tulips for a while we're
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more valuable than golds. People went crazy. They call it
tulip mania. And I think that they've always been interested
in folbs, and they have the right conditions to grow
them too, because the actually, I guess it's the western
part of Holland is very very sandy soil. You know,
most of the Netherlands is below sea level, and they
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love growing in that kind of a climate. They want
well drained soil. They will rot if they're sitting in water.
So I think it's just an interest. The Dutch have
always been masters at horticulture through the decades, through the centuries,
and they have really good growing conditions for them.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Well, and I've seen, you know what, I've never been
there to experience that. People always say, have you ever
gone over to experience that? I said no, because I'm
in the retail business and in the springtime. I guess
what I'm doing working in the garden centers. But someday,
someday we'll be able to get over there and and
be sure and check that out. I used to have
when we were going to a house state our next
our neighbors were from Holland, uh and their last name
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was Van Gelder and Lisa and Bodwin and super nice people.
She always made a dessert called boolars. Are you familiar
with boolars?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No? Tell me how it's made.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It was like a cinnamon roll, and her mom would
send her some kind of special things from Holland And
and I was expensive, whatever the spices were, whatever that
they used, and it was absolutely outstanding. And I can
never figure out. I've gone on the internet to try
to find out a recipe for it, but I mean
they were just to die for. And about once or
twice a year she would make those and they were
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just absolutely outstanding. But she called them boolars.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I don't know. Well, you should email that to me,
Ron and I'll search for a recipe for you. You know,
some of the Although Holland's a pretty small country, it's
regionally very very diverse. So I used to live up
in Friesland in the north, and so this lady might
have been from another area of the Netherlands. Toy that
was more common. But let me see what I can
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do about finding a recipe for you.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And then if I make them and they turn out okay,
I'll send you some perfect all right again. The website
checking out is flowerbub dot eu, flowerball dot Eu. Peggy
and Montgomery, always a pleasure having you on. We will
talk to you, I guess in the springtime about spring bulbs.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
All right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Ron, all right, take care, no hope.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Everybody know it's he's the kindest man of radio.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
YI. Thank you, Peggy and Montgomery again, Flowerbulbs dot EU.
All right, quick break, we come back. Phone lines are
open for you eight two to one WTVN eight hundred
and sixty ten WTVN. Here on the home of the
best Buckeye coverage news radio six to ten WTVN. As
I said earlier, your plants are thirsty, join them for
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a drink please, And it is very dry out there.
In case you didn't notice, matter of fact, I was,
I tell you, looking at corn crop and you know
so you're supposed to be brown in uh late October
and November, but not this early. It's uh, it's pretty
serious out there. Soybean starting to turn yellow early, and
of course the trees looking pretty funky right now. We
took a lot of stuff out. I said that earlier
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about around our patio just starting to look really rough.
And we've been watering on a regular basis, and sometimes
that heat and and all just wears the annuals out
and just getting them out. And we're gonna get you know,
start replacing here next week with mums and cabbage and
kalo and all the goodies from the pansies from the
fall colors and shift over. But in the meantime, you've
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got to keep watering. And if you know, you're looking
out there right now and boy, now the lawn you
know before you may have had questions, Yeah, I got
some areas I need a receed or overset or whatever.
Looking out there now and all the lawns have really
started to shut down and looking, uh, looking a little thin.
And again, moisture in the ground is the key to
about anything that you're going to do, uh in the lawn.
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Some I a couple people said, you know what if
I've already put some fertilizer down it. What if I've
already seated, what happens nothing, you know, until you get
moisture in the ground, those will just sit there. I mean,
the seed will just sit there until it gets good
moisture and then they'll start to Germany. And once that happens,
of course, you got to stick with it and the fertilizer.
For the most part, top quality fertilizers are coated and
developed so that they break down on an even basis
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and maybe get a little bit of a nitrogen at
the beginning, but then supply nutrients, you know, over a
six week period or so, and that's stimulated by moisture
in the ground, sunlight, things like that. So most of
that well should just sit there and wait. So if
you've already done that and you don't want to do
any water and just wait and see what happens. But
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you know, if you do need to do some lawn repair,
you want to do some seeding, you want to do
some core air rating. Remember we still you know, the
end of September, we've got still what three more weeks
yet easily just take a look at this, So you
got three more weeks, maybe four more weeks, let's write
it out for other ten days and see what Mother
Nature does have in store for us. As far as weather,
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it's hard to see out past that ten day two
week period, but like Ron said, there's something that looks
like it may be brewing in a ten day two
week period, so you can you can still hold off,
have everything ready to go, and hold off till that point.
And in some cases if you you know, if you
have an irrigation system and you're irrigating the lawn, and
you can keep moving right on and doing what you
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would normally do. But you know that's again, moisture in
the ground is the key for core air rating, for
slice seating, for seed germination, for the fertilizer, the whole
nine yards. But we still have time. So if you
want to just sit back and wait, be ready to go.
We'll watch the weather and see what happens. As far
as weed killers, right now, say you what if your
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lawn was looking okay and just had a few weeds
here and there, I wouldn't worry any in and about
those right now. We'll look at those mid to late October,
which is actually the best month to go after most
of the broad leaf weeds that are in your yard,
in your lawn, is that time during the as they
start to shut down, those weed killers are really absorbed
nicely put into the root system gives you a really
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good kill on a lot of those harder to kill
get rid of weeds. So we'll look at that more
mid to late October. But right now we'll just if
you know, I'm suggesting to folks just kind of hold
on unless it's irrigated, and let's write it out for
another week or ten days, two weeks and see where
we stand at that point. We are still in that
planting area for lawn renovation. Before we take a break,
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quick reminder tomorrow it's the Columbus Garden Railway Society's garden Tour.
Their backyard tour is from one Ton till five. There
are twelve homes that are open to the public and
their locations are all around Franklin County. Each one has
their own little layout and special features and landscaping and
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the railroads and all of that. So it's free to
learn more about it and find out where all these
are for thirty five years now go to their website.
It's thg The CGRs Columbus Garden Railway Society, the cg
RS dot org, thecg r S dot org. I'll tell
you all about it. It's tomorrow from one until five
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you can tour these gardens. I've never done it myself,
but I've heard it is a lot of fun. Quick break,
we come back phone on droveing for you at eight
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whole team analyzing before the game. Lots of information about
the Big Ten and other things as well. But always
fun to listen to them as a prelude to the
to the game, and they do a great such a
great job. But that'll start today on six ten here
at three o'clock. By the way, I got some emails
this week, folks, for this was the week for can
you address this on the show this week we'll be
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listening a couple things. First of all, I heard the forecast,
of course, forty three degrees. I had a couple people
yesterday saying, Hey, we're going to get cool this Saturday
Sunday nights. Do I need to bring my foldage plants,
my house plants back inside for that forty three degrees temperatures. No,
I wouldn't if you want to go right ahead. As
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a matter of fact, some folks have already started the
process of acclimating them to go back inside. And remember
when we have house plants outside on the patio and
we decide we want to bring them back inside for
the winner, it's best to try to acclimate them to
get used to the a little bit more used to
the lower temperature, lower lights conditions that you'll have inside.
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So setting them in a more shady condition for a
ten day period or so really helps them to kind
of start to adjust to that. And remember, no matter
what it is, even if it'll tolerate lower light conditions,
a lot of times, once you get them in the house,
they'll start to drop some of the inner leaves. It's
just natural. They just do that. But in that period
of time while we're acclimating them to go back inside
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is a good time to be cleaning them off and
making sure we don't have any hitchhikers that are going
to accompany that plant and we take it back inside
the house. Hitchhikers meaning mostly insect problems. Mites love they explode.
If they explode, scale the populations explode. Once they go
in the house, they get into that warmer temperature, they're
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all over it. So they love that. So trying to
make sure you're kind of insect free before you go inside,
or as best you can, is a good thing to do.
So during that period of time, you could be spraying
in a couple times with insecticidal soap, horticultural oil, maybe
putting a systemic inside the plant to be taken up inside.
Good way to go after them from the inside out.
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But you could be doing that over that next ten
day period or so. Hosing them off with a garden
hose a couple of times knocks a lot of things out.
And then right before you bring them back inside, slide
those houseplants out of the container. The root balls will
stay together. Slide them out gives you a chance to
take a look at the roots, how tight are they
in there? I personally don't do any repotting of those
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foliage plants as we go into the fall season. I
would just soon leave them like that, get them through
the winter, and then in March that's when I go
and start repotting things going into the next size pot.
That's when I look at it. So just to let
you know what's going on there, it's good to take
a look at it. And secondly, when you slide those out,
you can see if there's any other insects maybe in
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the soil. And of course, as I've said over the years,
there are other hitchhikers that love to come in those
container plants like field mice, voles, other critters at the
very bottom of the pot. We've even had a couple
reports occasionally have some small snakes that have crawled in
the holes in the bottom of those containers and just
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kind of wind up at the bottom of it. A
nice place to hang out, right, But you don't want
to bring them in the home. So sliding that out
can also reveal a few hitchhikers in that soil if
by chance you've got Sometimes the folks will say, O,
I got ants that got in there. Whatever what do
I do about those? Don't worry about doing the insecticide
drenches or anything like that. Just take that plant pot
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and all and fill up a wash tub full of
water and just set it down in the water. Let
us sit there for a couple hours. That way, it
drowns everything that's in the in the pot. You bring
it back out and they'll float to the top and
you scoop it all off. Then you can just bring
it out of there. Let it totally drain the container
in the potting so let it totally drain like you
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would anyway when you watered the plant. It'll drain out.
Give it a couple of days and you're ready to
go as far as bringing it back inside the house.
So you want to go through that process. It's usually
better for the plants if you can. And then of
course I keep a little ready to use bottle of
insecticidal soap on hand, just so that once we get
them inside, if by chance some of those populations we
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didn't get everything and they do explode, you got the
insecticidal soap to try to get them under control. I
keep a try to keep a an old shower curtain
on hand that you can put down and then of
course put your plant on top of that and it
makes a nice spread, and then you can just pick
it up and put everything back. So anyway to answer
the question about the cooler temperatures for one night or
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two nights like this, no, I'll tell you what starts
to benefit from the cooler nights. If they're sitting outside
or on a porch or patio, that gets exposed to
these cooler nighttime temperatures, and that would be your Christmas cactus.
So many times, you know that, we get Christmas cactus
that you know they've had for a couple of years
and just doesn't flour. They are a light sensitive plant,
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so in otherwids, as the days gets shorter, helps to
set them up for those buds to set up for
the for the holiday season. But one of the best
ways is exposing that plant to fifty degree temperatures or
so so in the fall if they're sitting outside protected,
not gonna freeze or anything like that, but get those
mid to lower fifties. I had the upper forty temperatures
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for several days or several nights. That helps to set
them up for flowering for those flower buds for the
Christmas cactus, so they will like experiencing that. So you know, again,
don't worry about it again. A couple of nights down
should not be an issue. I'm not gonna do anything
a vegetable gardener cover anything up. I think it's just
going to be a dip down, come back up again,
and we back up into the mid eighties by midweek
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next week. So not an issue as far as I'm concerned. Anyway,
I won't be doing anything or covering anything up vegetables
as well. Also got a great email this week from
some folks I guess was last week say asking to
address this, but showed me a picture of their autumn
joy seedom. Now you know, there's a lot of seedums
out there that really start to put on a show
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as we get into the late summer and fall, and
autumn joy happens to be one of them. I think, oh, neon,
there's a whole bunch of them that they've got on
the market now that gives us their flowers start to
come up flower late summer, good fall color as well.
But the problem is, send me a picture that the
edges of the leaves have been just chewed off. Couldn't
find anything but they've been chewed off. Any ideas that
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has been happened in the last couple of years, what
to do to prevent this, and a couple of things
that will do that, which is kind of interesting. You know,
you get slugs on them occasionally, you get aphans on
them occasionally, that type of thing. But there is an
actual flea beetle that enjoy seedom and both the larvae
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stages and the adult stages will chew on those. Now,
you typically will see those. So when you start to
see the damage, and you'll look, you'll find both the
adults and the and the larvae on their eating and
you hose them off or you know several insecticides that
would take care of them for you. Damages are typically
just more aesthetic than anything else. They still flower for you.
But that's the seedum flea beetle can be an issue.
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But if you don't see anything, and you keep watching,
and you keep watching and nothing, nothing's on there, But yeah,
you go out and there's more damage on the edges
of the leaves. Do remember that birds love to eat
the edges and leaves of seedum plants. I don't know
if they like the flavor, but they certainly enjoy the
moisture that they get out of the seedam leaves. And
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I think that finches and chickadees are two of the
worst for doing that. But they'll fly in, pick on
the edges of the leaves and then fly away, so
you don't see them. So there's a real good chance
that's what it is. It would be the birds. But again,
unless you see something on that plant doing that, as
in the seedam flea beetles don't do any spring, you
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must see before you spray. Otherwise, I would never ever
recommend spraying anything unless you know exactly what you're spraying for. Also,
last week had some folks tot a picture of their
cherry trees that have been planting for a couple years now.
Cherry trees that have started over the last three weeks
or so yellowing on the inside, a few spots here
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and there on the leaves leaves. Said they were told
to use a fungicidal application on them because they've got
some kind of leaf disease. Said they sprayed them two
or three times with some kind of a fungeicide, have
been watering trice a week at centa Etcter. My response was, stop,
if you look out there, there's a lot of plants
that are losing leaves right now on the inside because
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of the heat because of the drought. Cherry trees are
one of the first ones to respond to that, and
typically leaf diseases this time of the year. We don't
treat four anyway, it's too late. So again, you know,
make sure I don't know who told them that, but
make sure you get a positive ID before you start
spraying funge of sides or insecticides. I told them to
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stop the spraying. They had to increase their watering to
two or three times a week. I went back and said,
you know, do it with good soaking once a week
should take care of those. Stop the spraying unless you
know you've got an actual disease. And that's why I
go back to again, making sure you get a positive
ID whether you need a spray. Again, fun of diseases
on leaves for the most part this time of the year,
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we're getting so late in the season. Maybe a few
exceptions to the rule, but I can't see doing too
much springs at this point. I got off a ton
of emails last week with pa andies covered with powdery
mildew right now, and boy, it kind of went crazy
with the way the weather's been, very common, very typical
again too late in the season to be spraying, so
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you don't get the funge of size out. Just let
them ride. You can cut that foliage off anytime mid
September and on pitch it get rid of it. But
otherwise don't worry about spraying again. Most funge of sizes
this time of the year not necessary. And of course,
again like I said, make sure you get a positive
id for it. But again the pe andies very very
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common thing. And one last point here also got a picture.
Folks wanted some suggestions for an area. I'm not a designer,
but they wanted a couple plans to put in this
particular place. And they had put down torn on all
their lands scape, and they put down a landscape fabric.
I said, you know what, if I gave you a
good suggestion at all, is to take up the landscape
fabric and plant it and use mulch and forget the
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it in the landscape, only using it under gravel or
pathways or things like that, or in the vegetable garden
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Good morning everybody, Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson and you
are in the garden here on news radio six '
ten the WTV and talking about yard ning, and of
course we are into uh September. Fall is here, and
of course if you're looking next spring to light up
your yard in the spring season, you plant fall bulbs, right,
you plant them in the fall. And so it's this
time of the year we love to bring on our
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ball expert, a really good friend. Love this lady, Love
talking with her because she knows so much about little
everything when it comes to horticulture, especially with the flowering bulbs.
And you know who I'm talking about from the garden,
the media group, Peggy and Montgomery, Good morning. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm great? Are you out doing your Stintson plotting this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Uh? Not yet, but I will be. I've ordered my.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Balls, so as soon as they're in, you're good. You
know you made the crazy you know all of us.
Now that's all we think about. I see I go
out and I see people when I say, what was
that lady doing with her babs against stints stints and something?
And so you know when you started that everybody want
to know what stitts and plotting is. And I think
a lot more folks have actually kind of done that
on a smaller scale in their yards and gardens, you know,
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And I think it's a good thing I do too.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You know, Ron, it doesn't have to be giant to
be great. You can start small. You know, a lot
of us have to kind of do our garden plans
and phases and stuff because maybe we can't afford it
all at once. And that's okay. You know, I have
a pretty large stint of garden in my front yard.
But in my backyard, I just did a little bit
and highlighted some rock that we have, you know, in
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the in the garden and just kind of planted around
them to give them a little highlight in the spring
with just a few hundred little.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Bulbs, and there you go. That's all you have to do.
And of course, if you do that every fall, if
you hear if you're there next thing, you know, you
really light it up in the springtime.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You really do, because all these small spring bulbs they
all multiplied by themselves and naturalized, and so you just
get more and more and more.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And more, all right, Peggy, and Montgomery. I've got so
many questions. We don't have enough time for all of them.
What I'm going to try to work my way through
as much as i can. First of all, was it
true that as a young age you were told that
you should not pursue horticulture because women don't do that?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, that's right. I was told that it was too
hard for women. The work was too hard, the chemistry
and the studies would be too hard. And I'm awfully
glad I didn't listen. But there weren't very many women
in horticulture back in my days, and I'm very happy
to say that that has changed dramatically.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yes, and I'm with you one hundred percent, and we're
seeing more and more women in this industry today. I
know we had Katie Debao on several months ago talking
about this as well, and such an encouraging thing. I mean,
I remember the old days, you know, it was the
kind of the good old boys back you know, it
was all guys in the horticulture industry. And boy, today
we've got so many great women and doing a great job.
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So I am happy that that is happening. Peggy and
Montgomery with us, we're talking about planting bulbs, spring flowering
bulbs that are planted in the fall. So I guess
the first question I always get is why do we
have to plant these in the fall not in the spring?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I know, isn't that crazy? It's so confusing, I think
for consumers that aren't gardeners that you punt spring flowering
bulbs in the fall. But it comes because they originate
from places, you know, in the far East where they're
maybe at upper elevation, and they're used to having a
cold period. They're used to having a cold winter, and
so they really need to go into the ground this fall.
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They're going to push down some roots and get established.
They're going to go through that cold period that's you know,
natural for them, and then they're going to spring, and
then they're going to flower in the spring. And that's
why most pulps need a cold period.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So you know, on our local garden centers now, the
independent garden centers usually start to get their spring flowering
bulbs usually around Labor Day weekend or a week or
so afterwards. So they're just now starting to arrive in
the garden center. So if I'm out and I buy
my spring flowering bulbs. Now, should I go ahead and
plant those now? I mean, there's always been a little
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bit of controversy. I should go ahead and plant them now?
Is it better to wait till the temperatures cooled down?
How do you look at that?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You know, ron I, you know we've talked about this.
I think that you're right that we should wait a
little bit in your area and let the temperatures get
a little cooler and maybe plant in October. So if
you want to buy now to make sure that you
get the kinds you want, go ahead and get them
and keep them in a cool, dark place until you
get ready to plant them in October.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So hold off until it cools down a bit, and then,
you know, and again in October November. Sometimes you find
some bulbs on sail out there and you can scarf
those up. It's not just October. I mean, realistically, we
could still plant even November and decembery so if we
if we needed.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
To, absolutely, you know, the bulbs don't know the rules,
so we can just you know, it's better to get those,
get them in the ground and see if it works,
you know. I mean, that's what gardening's all about. Pushing
the envelope.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I understand that your husband's very good at doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He is, you know, he is so funny. He just
keeps springing things home and keeps springing thing come and
I think it's way too late, and I swear he's
still planting involves at the beginning of December.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Good for him. Talking to Peggy and Montgomery from the
garden media group. Great website. It's flowerbulbs dot com. That's
flower bulbs dot com. So we've got all our flower
bulbs at hand. It's mid to late October, we're getting
ready to plant. How important is it a couple things here?
How important is it to feed the bulbs when we're planting?
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And of course if we're planning a lot of bulbs,
do you I gotta figure you probably use a garden
og or to plant bulbs, not.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Just a hand trow, right, absolutely. First, I just got
to tell you some good news. We got to grant
from the European Union. As you know, in our website
we don't sell anything, but we got to grant from
the EU to help spread this message. So our web
site now it's flower bulb dot Eu. But I can
still find us at flower bulbs dot com But getting
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back to the fertilizer thing, Ron, I think, you know,
if you're going to take the time and trouble to
plant these bulbs and buy them, well, why not just
go ahead and get a little big of organic fertilizer
and make sure they get off to the best possible start.
I just put like a little teeny handful in each hole,
pop a couple of bulbs in there, and they're good
to go that way that you know, that's available to
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the roots right away. And a lot of people will
also add a little organic fertilizer this time of year,
you know, just to make sure the bulbs are getting
beefed up for the next season. And then after they flower,
because remember after they flower and the leaves with or
that's when all the energy is going back into the bulbs.
So that's another good time to maybe just spread a
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little bit of organic bulb fertilizer over them then, just
to make sure they're super strong.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You know. I've had a lot of you know, back
in the old oh I say, the old days, a
lot of they all our gardeners or mature guarders, I guess,
always using bone meal when it came to planting bulbs.
And you know, is bone meal better than some of
the bulb foods I mean, And again I like the
organic like a Spoema's line for instance. I love the
organic bulb tones. It has bone meal in it, but
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it also has other nutrients in that available. Does it
matter which one we use, you.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Know what I think? Either way, you're going to do
your plant that favor. People have been using bone mill
forever and it works, and something like a Stonema's fault tone,
and honestly that's what I buy. It does have that
in it, and it has you know, it's got a
little more scientific formulation, so it's got a few other
things faults need. So either way, you can't go wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Now we're we're we're right now and a sort of
a drought situation in the state of Ohio, very very
dry out there. As we plant bulbs in the fall,
as we're planting trees and shrubs, it's important that we
keep them watered right into the right as we get
into the holiday season. Does that apply to planting spring
flowering bulbs as well?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
You know, that's a great question, and usually run when
we plant in the fall, we get enough. You know,
once you plant you water them in thoroughly. I will
put the sprinkle our atom and just gently let that
water come in and make sure that the soil is
surrounding the bulb. And usually in the fall we get
enough moisture from rainfall that we don't really need to
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do it again. But if you're in a dry period,
and goodness knows, the weather is odds these days go ahead,
you know, like maybe once a week or every other week,
give them a little nor water. You know, they don't
ever want to be wet. But if you have a
really prolonged dry period, I think it would be a
takee bet to give them a little extra Yeah, so make.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sure we do. We're going to include those in our
fall watering if it continues to stay dry, just as
they're starting to get themselves rooted in as well. Very
very important talk with Peggy and Montgomery again. The website
is flowerbulb dot eu and you can check that out.
It's a great website either that flower bulbs dot com.
Either one. We'll take you there, but great one to see.
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All right, So one last question before we take a
break here. So squirrels love to dig up the bulbs
after we're finished, planting. What's your trick or your secret
that keeping those darn critters away from those spring flowering bulbs.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh, they are the worst, I'll tell you. My squirrels
just will dig up any freshly disturbed soil anywhere in
the garden all the time. So there's a couple of
things you can do. Friends of mine. Actually soaks the bulbs,
you know, just puts the bulbs in some like liquid,
you know, deer and animal repellent, and then plants them.
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You know, it doesn't soak them long, just puts me
in and out and that scent is enough to make
them stop. There's other like granual repellents that are all
natural that not going to hurt your dogs or cats
or kids, that you can shake out over that area. Again,
it's like a castor oil and a bad smell that
will keep them away. If you're planting in an area
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that's not too big. Sometimes what people will do is
help plant him. Just put some chicken wire over the
top and pin it down, put malch on top of that,
or do it right in the grass. It's fine, and
just leave that there for a few weeks until the
squirrels are no longer interested in that disturbed soil and
then you can pull it up.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Great information as always, Peggy and Montgomery from the garden
media group website flowerbulb dot Eu take a quick break.
We come back more with Peggy and about planting up
those fall bulbs to light up your yard in the
springtime here on news radio six to ten WTVN. Planting fallbalbs,
if that makes sense, plant them in the fall, light
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them up in the springtime. And our expert is with
us this morning, Peggy and Montgomery. I'll tell you what.
I'm jealous as heck. How'd you wind up getting the
opportunity to work at Mount Cuba Center and Longwood Gardens
as well?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I don't know we're getting all this intel. Ron I
was very happy to go to Monk Cuba's Center and
studying native plants. Native plants, you know, Ron, are really
important to our environment. So it's a really interesting topic.
And I think native plants and not native plants can
live together peacefully. But if you can sneak a few
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natives in there and keep our insects and pollinators well set,
and actually your spring bulbs are going to provide nectar
and pollend for insects too.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh, no doubt. And by the way, I'd love to
live at Longwood Gardens.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh it's a beautiful, beautiful place. But I think there's
some pretty cool places in Cincinnati too.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Uh yeah, there's a few there in Columbus and all
around the state of Ohio. We got Ohio's got a
lot of great botanical gardens and you know, all kinds
of great places. So you're you're absolutely right. But yeah,
something about Longwood, I'll tell you what. I've always loved it. Anyway,
talk with Peggy and Montgomery. We're talking about planting spring
flowering bulbs. You plant them in the fall, reason being
they need that cold experience to set up those buds
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and of course do well force in the springtime. So
in this bring time after these balls, let's say our daffodils,
which is probably the most popular that's planted out there today,
are dune famous spent flowering. Is it important to dead
heads those because sometimes they'll try to go to seed.
I know it takes a lot of energy out of
the ball. Is it important that we need a dead
head or not? Not? Really?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know what, there's always like buy the book and
then real life when it comes to gardening and buy
the book. Should you remove them? Absolutely, That's kind of
with all plants, you know, especially when we want things
to keep flowering, which really isn't the case with bulbs.
But if you have time and you can get out there,
go ahead and pull them off. If you can't, they're
going to come back just fine. It just does take
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a little bit more energy for the plant to produce
some seed.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So if you got if you can do it. If
you don't, don't, you know, not a big problem, but
try to do it if you can.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I think so. I think that goes with dead
heading and everything else we're doing in the garden, just
to make sure that the plants are going in putting
their energy in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
All right. So you know, when we have folks that
are out shopping, and obviously there are places out there
that sell a less expensive bub You go and you
say they're twelve for five bucks, and then you go
to a garden center and they're twelve for ten dollars.
Size makes the difference here, and if you look closely,
you'll find that there are different sized bulbs being sold
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out there. So when you find something really inexpensive, you
should take a look, because size really does matter here.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That does matter, Ron, And you know the other old
added you get what you pay for. You know, when
you do buy a really you know, inexpensive bulb like that,
they're very much smaller, they probably will not bloom as
well the first year. It could be older. It's always
important to buy quality and to get a little bigger
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size is a very good idea. And actually, you know, Ron,
when you think about the price of bulbs and the
price of the annuals we buy just for one year
in our guard n the difference isn't very much at all.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
No, not at all. And of course these keep coming back.
Is the gift that keeps on giving, right, And that's.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The greatest thing.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
We buy annuals and I do too, and I'm going
to compost them in the fall. But these bulls were
planting are at an investment because they're going to come back.
They're going to naturalize and come back every year.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
What about planting these spring flowering bulbs in containers, larger
containers that we would have our annuals in during the summertime?
What about doing those I mean, how cold of temperatures
can they take over the winter or is that something
that if we do the containers, we need to protect
those over the winter.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Great question. So there's kind of a rule of thumb
that if you're going to leave things out in a
container over the winter outdoors, they should at least be
two zones partier than where you are. So ron, are
you a zone seven six six, So that would mean
in your area you could do that if the bulbs
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you're planting are hardy in zones four.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
SOO, look at the PACKAGEE. If they're hardy to zone four,
should be able to leave them out in the container
without trying having to protect them.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Right, but you know what, you know, I would also
protect them if you can, if you can put them
in an area that's out of cold wind, or if
they're smaller, put them in your window wells or snuggle
them up on your porch if you don't use that
in the wintertime, that'll help. And even sometimes people put
them in the garage. But it's a really fun thing
(15:29):
to do, and forcing bulbs is a blast because spring
comes early, extra early, and you get these beautiful talks
of flowers for your home and to share with other
people to make them happy.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh, you know, I love taking crocus bulbs. Put them
in a four and a half five inch pot, you know,
four or five of them. They're playing them a little
tight and just over the one of those in the
window well or an unheated garage, unheated shed water them
a little bit as needed. But then when they start
to grow and start the flower, take those out and
give them away the neighbors or friends or family or whatever.
What a great gift.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It is a great gift. Ron And I think you
and I and all gardeners know that flowers make people happy,
but there is tons and tons of signs that proves that.
So you know, if you want to make somebody happy,
give them some flowers like that. It's such a precious
thing in the early spring, and to remind everybody that
spring is coming and the light's coming back. I think
(16:25):
it's a really special thing to do.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Are you too, Hey, I've got a couple of real
quick question here for you. And I'm just curious why
most of the bulbs that we buy in the fall
are from Holland. Why Holland? Why? Why is Holland Why
are they known for growing their bulbs?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I think that they've always
had a fascination with horticulture. Horticulture is a big part
of their whole national identity, like maybe it is in
Britain and some other places. And you know, in the
sixteen hundreds, when the Dutch plant hunters or going out
and bringing back these faulbs tulips for a while we're
(17:04):
more valuable than golds. People went crazy. They call it
tulip mania. And I think that they've always been interested
in folbs, and they have the right conditions to grow
them too, because the actually, I guess it's the western
part of Holland is very very sandy soil. You know,
most of the Netherlands is below sea level, and they
(17:26):
love growing in that kind of a climate. They want
well drained soil. They will rot if they're sitting in water.
So I think it's just an interest. The Dutch have
always been masters at horticulture through the decades, through the centuries,
and they have really good growing conditions for them.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Well, and I've seen, you know what, I've never been
there to experience that. People always say, have you ever
gone over to experience that? I said no, because I'm
in the retail business and in the springtime. I guess
what I'm doing working in the garden centers. But someday,
someday we'll be able to get over there and and
be sure and check that out. I used to have
when we were going to a house state our next
our neighbors were from Holland, uh and their last name
(18:08):
was Van Gelder and Lisa and Bodwin and super nice people.
She always made a dessert called boolars. Are you familiar
with boolars?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No? Tell me how it's made.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It was like a cinnamon roll, and her mom would
send her some kind of special things from Holland And
and I was expensive, whatever the spices were, whatever that
they used, and it was absolutely outstanding. And I can
never figure out. I've gone on the internet to try
to find out a recipe for it, but I mean
they were just to die for. And about once or
twice a year she would make those and they were
(18:41):
just absolutely outstanding. But she called them boolars.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I don't know. Well, you should email that to me,
Ron and I'll search for a recipe for you. You know,
some of the Although Holland's a pretty small country, it's
regionally very very diverse. So I used to live up
in Friesland in the north, and so this lady might
have been from another area of the Netherlands. Toy that
was more common. But let me see what I can
(19:06):
do about finding a recipe for you.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And then if I make them and they turn out okay,
I'll send you some perfect all right again. The website
checking out is flowerbub dot eu, flowerball dot Eu. Peggy
and Montgomery, always a pleasure having you on. We will
talk to you, I guess in the springtime about spring bulbs.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
All right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Ron, all right, take care, no hope.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Everybody know it's he's the kindest man of radio.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
YI. Thank you, Peggy and Montgomery again, Flowerbulbs dot EU.
All right, quick break, we come back. Phone lines are
open for you eight two to one WTVN eight hundred
and sixty ten WTVN. Here on the home of the
best Buckeye coverage news radio six to ten WTVN. As
I said earlier, your plants are thirsty, join them for
(19:52):
a drink please, And it is very dry out there.
In case you didn't notice, matter of fact, I was,
I tell you, looking at corn crop and you know
so you're supposed to be brown in uh late October
and November, but not this early. It's uh, it's pretty
serious out there. Soybean starting to turn yellow early, and
of course the trees looking pretty funky right now. We
took a lot of stuff out. I said that earlier
(20:14):
about around our patio just starting to look really rough.
And we've been watering on a regular basis, and sometimes
that heat and and all just wears the annuals out
and just getting them out. And we're gonna get you know,
start replacing here next week with mums and cabbage and
kalo and all the goodies from the pansies from the
fall colors and shift over. But in the meantime, you've
(20:35):
got to keep watering. And if you know, you're looking
out there right now and boy, now the lawn you
know before you may have had questions, Yeah, I got
some areas I need a receed or overset or whatever.
Looking out there now and all the lawns have really
started to shut down and looking, uh, looking a little thin.
And again, moisture in the ground is the key to
about anything that you're going to do, uh in the lawn.
(20:58):
Some I a couple people said, you know what if
I've already put some fertilizer down it. What if I've
already seated, what happens nothing, you know, until you get
moisture in the ground, those will just sit there. I mean,
the seed will just sit there until it gets good
moisture and then they'll start to Germany. And once that happens,
of course, you got to stick with it and the fertilizer.
For the most part, top quality fertilizers are coated and
developed so that they break down on an even basis
(21:21):
and maybe get a little bit of a nitrogen at
the beginning, but then supply nutrients, you know, over a
six week period or so, and that's stimulated by moisture
in the ground, sunlight, things like that. So most of
that well should just sit there and wait. So if
you've already done that and you don't want to do
any water and just wait and see what happens. But
(21:41):
you know, if you do need to do some lawn repair,
you want to do some seeding, you want to do
some core air rating. Remember we still you know, the
end of September, we've got still what three more weeks
yet easily just take a look at this, So you
got three more weeks, maybe four more weeks, let's write
it out for other ten days and see what Mother
Nature does have in store for us. As far as weather,
(22:04):
it's hard to see out past that ten day two
week period, but like Ron said, there's something that looks
like it may be brewing in a ten day two
week period, so you can you can still hold off,
have everything ready to go, and hold off till that point.
And in some cases if you you know, if you
have an irrigation system and you're irrigating the lawn, and
you can keep moving right on and doing what you
(22:25):
would normally do. But you know that's again, moisture in
the ground is the key for core air rating, for
slice seating, for seed germination, for the fertilizer, the whole
nine yards. But we still have time. So if you
want to just sit back and wait, be ready to go.
We'll watch the weather and see what happens. As far
as weed killers, right now, say you what if your
(22:47):
lawn was looking okay and just had a few weeds
here and there, I wouldn't worry any in and about
those right now. We'll look at those mid to late October,
which is actually the best month to go after most
of the broad leaf weeds that are in your yard,
in your lawn, is that time during the as they
start to shut down, those weed killers are really absorbed
nicely put into the root system gives you a really
(23:09):
good kill on a lot of those harder to kill
get rid of weeds. So we'll look at that more
mid to late October. But right now we'll just if
you know, I'm suggesting to folks just kind of hold
on unless it's irrigated, and let's write it out for
another week or ten days, two weeks and see where
we stand at that point. We are still in that
planting area for lawn renovation. Before we take a break,
(23:33):
quick reminder tomorrow it's the Columbus Garden Railway Society's garden Tour.
Their backyard tour is from one Ton till five. There
are twelve homes that are open to the public and
their locations are all around Franklin County. Each one has
their own little layout and special features and landscaping and
(23:54):
the railroads and all of that. So it's free to
learn more about it and find out where all these
are for thirty five years now go to their website.
It's thg The CGRs Columbus Garden Railway Society, the cg
RS dot org, thecg r S dot org. I'll tell
you all about it. It's tomorrow from one until five
(24:16):
you can tour these gardens. I've never done it myself,
but I've heard it is a lot of fun. Quick break,
we come back phone on droveing for you at eight
two to one WTVN, Talking Yardening here on news Radio
six ten WTVN. We are talking new ardening here on
news radio six ten to wtv in the home of
the best Buckeye coverage. Coming up to day at three o'clock,
we'll give Matt McCoy does such a great job his
(24:39):
whole team analyzing before the game. Lots of information about
the Big Ten and other things as well. But always
fun to listen to them as a prelude to the
to the game, and they do a great such a
great job. But that'll start today on six ten here
at three o'clock. By the way, I got some emails
this week, folks, for this was the week for can
you address this on the show this week we'll be
(25:00):
listening a couple things. First of all, I heard the forecast,
of course, forty three degrees. I had a couple people
yesterday saying, Hey, we're going to get cool this Saturday
Sunday nights. Do I need to bring my foldage plants,
my house plants back inside for that forty three degrees temperatures. No,
I wouldn't if you want to go right ahead. As
(25:21):
a matter of fact, some folks have already started the
process of acclimating them to go back inside. And remember
when we have house plants outside on the patio and
we decide we want to bring them back inside for
the winner, it's best to try to acclimate them to
get used to the a little bit more used to
the lower temperature, lower lights conditions that you'll have inside.
(25:42):
So setting them in a more shady condition for a
ten day period or so really helps them to kind
of start to adjust to that. And remember, no matter
what it is, even if it'll tolerate lower light conditions,
a lot of times, once you get them in the house,
they'll start to drop some of the inner leaves. It's
just natural. They just do that. But in that period
of time while we're acclimating them to go back inside
(26:04):
is a good time to be cleaning them off and
making sure we don't have any hitchhikers that are going
to accompany that plant and we take it back inside
the house. Hitchhikers meaning mostly insect problems. Mites love they explode.
If they explode, scale the populations explode. Once they go
in the house, they get into that warmer temperature, they're
(26:25):
all over it. So they love that. So trying to
make sure you're kind of insect free before you go inside,
or as best you can, is a good thing to do.
So during that period of time, you could be spraying
in a couple times with insecticidal soap, horticultural oil, maybe
putting a systemic inside the plant to be taken up inside.
Good way to go after them from the inside out.
(26:47):
But you could be doing that over that next ten
day period or so. Hosing them off with a garden
hose a couple of times knocks a lot of things out.
And then right before you bring them back inside, slide
those houseplants out of the container. The root balls will
stay together. Slide them out gives you a chance to
take a look at the roots, how tight are they
in there? I personally don't do any repotting of those
(27:08):
foliage plants as we go into the fall season. I
would just soon leave them like that, get them through
the winter, and then in March that's when I go
and start repotting things going into the next size pot.
That's when I look at it. So just to let
you know what's going on there, it's good to take
a look at it. And secondly, when you slide those out,
you can see if there's any other insects maybe in
(27:30):
the soil. And of course, as I've said over the years,
there are other hitchhikers that love to come in those
container plants like field mice, voles, other critters at the
very bottom of the pot. We've even had a couple
reports occasionally have some small snakes that have crawled in
the holes in the bottom of those containers and just
(27:51):
kind of wind up at the bottom of it. A
nice place to hang out, right, But you don't want
to bring them in the home. So sliding that out
can also reveal a few hitchhikers in that soil if
by chance you've got Sometimes the folks will say, O,
I got ants that got in there. Whatever what do
I do about those? Don't worry about doing the insecticide
drenches or anything like that. Just take that plant pot
(28:12):
and all and fill up a wash tub full of
water and just set it down in the water. Let
us sit there for a couple hours. That way, it
drowns everything that's in the in the pot. You bring
it back out and they'll float to the top and
you scoop it all off. Then you can just bring
it out of there. Let it totally drain the container
in the potting so let it totally drain like you
(28:33):
would anyway when you watered the plant. It'll drain out.
Give it a couple of days and you're ready to
go as far as bringing it back inside the house.
So you want to go through that process. It's usually
better for the plants if you can. And then of
course I keep a little ready to use bottle of
insecticidal soap on hand, just so that once we get
them inside, if by chance some of those populations we
(28:55):
didn't get everything and they do explode, you got the
insecticidal soap to try to get them under control. I
keep a try to keep a an old shower curtain
on hand that you can put down and then of
course put your plant on top of that and it
makes a nice spread, and then you can just pick
it up and put everything back. So anyway to answer
the question about the cooler temperatures for one night or
(29:17):
two nights like this, no, I'll tell you what starts
to benefit from the cooler nights. If they're sitting outside
or on a porch or patio, that gets exposed to
these cooler nighttime temperatures, and that would be your Christmas cactus.
So many times, you know that, we get Christmas cactus
that you know they've had for a couple of years
and just doesn't flour. They are a light sensitive plant,
(29:38):
so in otherwids, as the days gets shorter, helps to
set them up for those buds to set up for
the for the holiday season. But one of the best
ways is exposing that plant to fifty degree temperatures or
so so in the fall if they're sitting outside protected,
not gonna freeze or anything like that, but get those
mid to lower fifties. I had the upper forty temperatures
(30:02):
for several days or several nights. That helps to set
them up for flowering for those flower buds for the
Christmas cactus, so they will like experiencing that. So you know, again,
don't worry about it again. A couple of nights down
should not be an issue. I'm not gonna do anything
a vegetable gardener cover anything up. I think it's just
going to be a dip down, come back up again,
and we back up into the mid eighties by midweek
(30:24):
next week. So not an issue as far as I'm concerned. Anyway,
I won't be doing anything or covering anything up vegetables
as well. Also got a great email this week from
some folks I guess was last week say asking to
address this, but showed me a picture of their autumn
joy seedom. Now you know, there's a lot of seedums
out there that really start to put on a show
(30:46):
as we get into the late summer and fall, and
autumn joy happens to be one of them. I think, oh, neon,
there's a whole bunch of them that they've got on
the market now that gives us their flowers start to
come up flower late summer, good fall color as well.
But the problem is, send me a picture that the
edges of the leaves have been just chewed off. Couldn't
find anything but they've been chewed off. Any ideas that
(31:09):
has been happened in the last couple of years, what
to do to prevent this, and a couple of things
that will do that, which is kind of interesting. You know,
you get slugs on them occasionally, you get aphans on
them occasionally, that type of thing. But there is an
actual flea beetle that enjoy seedom and both the larvae
(31:29):
stages and the adult stages will chew on those. Now,
you typically will see those. So when you start to
see the damage, and you'll look, you'll find both the
adults and the and the larvae on their eating and
you hose them off or you know several insecticides that
would take care of them for you. Damages are typically
just more aesthetic than anything else. They still flower for you.
But that's the seedum flea beetle can be an issue.
(31:53):
But if you don't see anything, and you keep watching,
and you keep watching and nothing, nothing's on there, But yeah,
you go out and there's more damage on the edges
of the leaves. Do remember that birds love to eat
the edges and leaves of seedum plants. I don't know
if they like the flavor, but they certainly enjoy the
moisture that they get out of the seedam leaves. And
(32:14):
I think that finches and chickadees are two of the
worst for doing that. But they'll fly in, pick on
the edges of the leaves and then fly away, so
you don't see them. So there's a real good chance
that's what it is. It would be the birds. But again,
unless you see something on that plant doing that, as
in the seedam flea beetles don't do any spring, you
(32:37):
must see before you spray. Otherwise, I would never ever
recommend spraying anything unless you know exactly what you're spraying for. Also,
last week had some folks tot a picture of their
cherry trees that have been planting for a couple years now.
Cherry trees that have started over the last three weeks
or so yellowing on the inside, a few spots here
(32:59):
and there on the leaves leaves. Said they were told
to use a fungicidal application on them because they've got
some kind of leaf disease. Said they sprayed them two
or three times with some kind of a fungeicide, have
been watering trice a week at centa Etcter. My response was, stop,
if you look out there, there's a lot of plants
that are losing leaves right now on the inside because
(33:20):
of the heat because of the drought. Cherry trees are
one of the first ones to respond to that, and
typically leaf diseases this time of the year. We don't
treat four anyway, it's too late. So again, you know,
make sure I don't know who told them that, but
make sure you get a positive ID before you start
spraying funge of sides or insecticides. I told them to
(33:42):
stop the spraying. They had to increase their watering to
two or three times a week. I went back and said,
you know, do it with good soaking once a week
should take care of those. Stop the spraying unless you
know you've got an actual disease. And that's why I
go back to again, making sure you get a positive
ID whether you need a spray. Again, fun of diseases
on leaves for the most part this time of the year,
(34:04):
we're getting so late in the season. Maybe a few
exceptions to the rule, but I can't see doing too
much springs at this point. I got off a ton
of emails last week with pa andies covered with powdery
mildew right now, and boy, it kind of went crazy
with the way the weather's been, very common, very typical
again too late in the season to be spraying, so
(34:27):
you don't get the funge of size out. Just let
them ride. You can cut that foliage off anytime mid
September and on pitch it get rid of it. But
otherwise don't worry about spraying again. Most funge of sizes
this time of the year not necessary. And of course,
again like I said, make sure you get a positive
id for it. But again the pe andies very very
(34:48):
common thing. And one last point here also got a picture.
Folks wanted some suggestions for an area. I'm not a designer,
but they wanted a couple plans to put in this
particular place. And they had put down torn on all
their lands scape, and they put down a landscape fabric.
I said, you know what, if I gave you a
good suggestion at all, is to take up the landscape
fabric and plant it and use mulch and forget the
(35:10):
landscape fabric. I'm still not a big fan of using
it in the landscape, only using it under gravel or
pathways or things like that, or in the vegetable garden
as well. And I'll share the reasons why for you
next week. Because we're running out of time, thanks to
our callers, sayings, our sponsors. Thanks to our producer, Ella,
because without Ala, none of the stuff would happen. Now,
So Ella, thank you always so much for all of
you do. Now do yourself a favor. Figure out where
(35:31):
you're going to plant a tree or two or three.
Keep planning those data plants, Be pollinator friendly, pamper your worms,
get the kids of all with gardening. Go out making
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