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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden here on news radio six ' ten
WTVN eight two to one WTVN eight hundred and six
ten WTVN. Those are our numbers. Jump on board talking
about yardening. Uh yeah, we're can you believe this? In
the October big time? And guess what, I hope we
get some showers because it's getting dry out there. Can
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you believe that? Yeah? Well, can I say? And I
don't see a whole lot of rain in the forecast,
but nevertheless, hopefully a little bit of showers. We don't
want them tomorrow afternoon from about one o'clock until well
noon until about five o'clock because it's the big giant
Pumpkin National Way Off at the Oakland Nursery in Dublin.
We're gonna be MCing that tomorrow, so stop out and
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say hello. And again it usually kicks off about one thirty,
so you know, hopefully you at that time the sun
will shine, we'll get through the Pumpkin Way Off, and
then some showers can move back in. I would go
for that, but that's at the Oakland Nursery in Dublin.
One sixty one there and then, like I said, it
kicks off usually the way off stars about one thirty
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or so. So stop out and say hello, let's kick
off our show as we always do with the Buggy
Joe Boggs report. That would be Joe Boggs. He's an
assistant professor commercials y Yeah, University tention. I went to
your department entromology. What website?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I love the introduction.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Website b y g L dot os U dot E
d U, Ladies and gentlemen. Mister common sense, he called
himself Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Good morning, sir, Good morning. Now I need to ask this.
Do you ever do do you ever show up with
your name tag, you know, being Linus van Pelt and
uh and you're there to experience the great Pumpkin? Is that?
Do you ever think about doing that? I have not,
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but it's not a bad idea, is it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I have to think about now I will have to
think about that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
One, you know that was that was always I have
to say, to some degree, that was always kind of
like the saddest, the saddest Charles Schultz, you know a
series of cartoons you know later of course, you know
turned into into television shows. You know, it's the Great Pumpkin,
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Charlie Brown, right Carlinus, you know, just waiting, and it
was such a different take on on our different holidays.
I always thought, you know, and it's of course been
with us forever. This this reference is probably not demographically oriented,
unlike most of those that you and I are starting
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to use these days.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right, Yeah, I think most people know who Charlie Brown is.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Charlie Brown and the Great Pumpkin. Yes, they play it
every year, so that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah. I always have a good time. It's it is fun.
Last year, boy, there was a couple the I forget
what the top one was like twenty three twenty four
hundred pounds, so they looked like they have like many
you know, little volkswagens sitting on top of palettes.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well you said, I remember talking about that last year.
I'm just constantly amazed. And across the country, you know,
there are just different you know, giant pumpkin wayoffs you
know that occur in different areas.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Hamilton's numbers, Hamilton's I think they've really gotten big two there.
Theirs was either last night or today this all weekend,
but they had one going on too, and yeah, it's amazing.
As a matter of fact, just so you know, Joe,
I want to give you updated The world record to
date is twenty two seven and forty nine pounds, all right,
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and that was broken last year from the Gentleman out
of Minnesota. So far as of yesterday, now I didn't
check if Hamilton's had any way off shut or not,
is twenty six forty one so about one hundred pounds short.
So pretty close there. But one of the guys that's
going to be at the way off tomorrow at Oakland
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Dave and his wife. I think it's Carol Steltz. And
actually Carol's one who grows the pumpkins. They have one
already at almost twenty five hundred pounds and this one
was supposed to going to be bigger. So we'll see
what they bring to the table tomorrow. So it should
be pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Wow, that's that's going to be a subject of great
discussion next week. I'm just it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Will be you know, you know the other one they
always give me because you're your tomato grower and you
love tomatoes. The world record tomatoes eleven point six five pounds.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I mean, can you. I mean we're now talking
the size of.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's just difficult to carve though. For some reason, they
just kind of mush out right.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now when you slice, not when you slice it across
the entire width of the tomato.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You imagine the size of amberger.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That would have to be a pretty good yeah, pretty
good sized burger.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I'm kind of thinking, yeah, I'm sort of connecting the
dots here, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, the biggest, the biggest so far this year is
ten point two pounds.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And Jerry Rose, who's on our show on a regular basis,
he'll have his big pumpkins tomorrow at at Oakland as well.
He is, Uh, he's in the top fifty I think
at six point seven pounder.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That's incredible. That is really remarkable.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's always fun to see what these folks do and
then you know they're they're competitive, but on the same token,
they enjoy talking about what they do and how they
get there. So it's always fun because they'll share all
any and all information with you, uh, you know, as
far as how to do these and how to grow them,
and it's it's a lot of fun. You should come
up and check it out.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I would love to. You know, that's a and you're right,
gardeners are They're a special breed, aren't they. And when
and when you consider you know that, I think the
view is one person's six is everyone's success, because next
year you can try it out. I mean, you know
you have a tip on gardening, Well, next year you
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might say, well, I'm gonna a good example of that.
And and now this kind of goes to a story
about your dad. Now, I grew up that we did
use straw sometimes in our gardens. But when I got here,
when I came over here and we had an area
for a larger garden, you know, you had said to me,
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I mean early on, because we've known each other for
quite a while now, you'd said that your dad would
would consistently put down straw in the vegetable garden.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Right right to put it to bed for the summer.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, And I started doing the same thing. So that's
you know, that's how this works. It's and of course
you know where we live now, I don't have a
spot for as large a garden, but that that just
changed everything because you could walk around the garden, you know,
even when it was wet, you know, because that straw
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helped this tribute your weight, you didn't compact the soil
quite as bad. And of course in the fall, you
know you could depend on if you wrote a tilt
or whatever you wanted to do, you could just turn
it into the soil and just leave it lay there
and do it in the spring. And you know, by
that time the straw had decayed to where you're adding
a lot of nice organic matter back into the soil.
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So so there you have it, I mean, the complete
circle with your dad and gardening and learning that you know,
something new that really did pay off. So that's a
that's a very nice thing about the the pumpkin ears.
I just made that up rights. You might need to
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use that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I'm writing it down for tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Sharing information for.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
By the way, your buggies Jo Bog called you all
pump pumpkin ears.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Pumpkin ears. Yeah, uh, that doesn't sound quite as good
when we repeated a few times.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Does it tell me? By the way, my celebrity friend
Rob Rider said to tell you hello, he loves listen
to your segment.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh well, same here. And I do have to say
one last thing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
About you, Rob Rider.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I do I.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
See my celebrity friend. He start in Shawshank redemption. Oh,
there you go, there you go, and he listens to you.
He loves your segment. So there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, now I'm all nervous, and that's why I told you.
I know, I know, I'm I mean, I you see
what's happening. I can't think now, he stumbling around trying
to happen on the pumpkin pie, my favorite pie. Just
a little side note there is that your favorite? It
really is? I have to say I've gone you know, Actually,
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who am I trying to kid? Every pie is my favorite?
I really don't have it. I don't know that I've
ever had a pie I didn't like. Maybe maybe peanut butter.
I have to admit, you know, sweet peanut butter is
not in.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
A butter pie.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I know, I know. I think it's either it's.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
The mince meat mince meat pie.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well I do, yeah that is yeah, yeah, it's just
you put it in the crust and I'll eat it. Well,
to some degree, I just realized what I said. Unless
it's a buggy pie, yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Spiders and bugs like that, you will go.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I won't go that far.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Or moths in your coffee.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
No, no, that's oh my goodness. I was hungry. And
now you've done something. It's changed a whole dynamic.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You'll have to go to McDonald's day and get that big,
big chicken mac or whatever they call it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I heard something about that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I have to check it out.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Were we going to talk about any insects or anything
or just not really just a.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, I think after you know how you like this.
I'm looking at my watch. I realize that you're probably
being tapped about. Hey, yeah, yes, we'll talk about some spiders.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Okay, that's great because I don't I don't like right,
it's very creepy and bug and snail. Yes, spiders and snakes.
Maybe we'll play that for the bumper music we come
back like talking with Buggy. Joe Boggs here on news
Radio six ' ten w tv N absolutely love this song.
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I had to keep it going after that commercial.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Got it in my head.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Ride is a little higher. Tell me Joe Boggs that
you didn't cruise down the street on your John Deere
tractor singing this.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, I did the roller windows there?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Or was it an Alice Chalmers?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, maybe it was a massy Ferguson. Was it a
massy It was a massy Ferguson. Okay, we thought we
were We thought we were really in high cotton. And
then we got that tractor for the farm.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Singing lou ride.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah that's right. Tried to slam it to the ground,
but it never worked. Okay, So that's so that's that's
the reference. A few people will get less they they're
less a car person, right yep. So well, I had
an encounter. Really, I mean, you know, you talk about
being a little frightened of spiders and snakes. I thought
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you were going to play that one. That's that's we
gotta we gotta find that one for the future. But
I had an encounter this past week and at one
of our local parks. Not a big park, and but
it has very nice, flat, wide trails that that you know,
pretty much free of stones and roots and things that
can trip you up, so you can kind of for me,
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for example, I can sort of cruise along and look
for things to take pictures right without having to look
down and make sure I don't twist an anchor ankle.
The downside of that is there's a little tiny spider
probably not much larger in diameter than a dime. That
has a most descriptive name. It's called an arrowhead spider. Now,
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anyone that hikes in Ohio woods, you've come across these
spiders because for some reason, they love to put their
webs across trails. I don't know why. You can get
off the trail and go out in the woods and
you just don't see as many.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's not as much fun, I think.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So I think I think they all. You know, there's
probably one spider across the trail and about twenty off
of the side, just saying, wait for it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh yeah, wait for it. Here he comes, wait for it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
There you go. So they're a type of orb weaver,
and I just very quickly. Orb weavers are spiders that
they create a circular web, and these really do create
they can for their size, it's amazing how large of
a web they can produce. But they love to hang out,
you know, right in the middle of a trail. So
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I was looking off to one side, not handle a
lot of attention to the what was in front of me,
because I really didn't have to, you know, kind of
looking over here and looking over there, and and I
did just happen to look back when this spider was
probably about one inch from my eyeball, Thank goodness, I
wear glasses now. It went from dime size, it's about
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the size of a I just about the size of
a grizzly bear. I mean that thing was huge. And
of course, as you know, you you've freely admitted you
know a little bit of a rach andophobia. Well, I
will tell you the spider, not me, you know, not
anything else. The spider made kind of a high pitched
noise when that happened, because because I couldn't stop, you know,
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like that it is it is not you, Yeah, not
me exactly. That's my story. I'm sticking to it. So yeah,
I just because I was in full stride and I
saw this and couldn't stop and went right into it.
And like I said, I don't really know what happened
to the spider. I did the spider dance though. That's
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just a you know, that's just an honor of this.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh sure, right, right, you have to do that? Is
that is that arrow thing? Is it's white?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It has are it?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Does?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's you know, that's a very good description. I'm going
to probably post the biggle about about spiders because many
of the over six hundred and twenty species of spiders
that we have in Ohio, many of them over winter
as eggs. So it means that they they come to
maturity and mate in the late summer to early fall.
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And that's what's happening right now. That's why we see
so many of these spiders right now. So, yeah, this
is one that's so common and I've never I've never
described that white marking. The arrow comes from the abdomen
looks like it just looks it's exactly Yeah, it looks
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like it's ahead cookie's.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Frosted on top. His eyes are kind of small for
the size of the spider, but well that's.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Because they don't need to see much from people walk
into their web, let me tell you. Yeah, So that's
what's happening, is that we're starting to, you know, pick
up on some of the spiders that seemed to be absent.
I mean, I would have to admit this season, I
was a bit surprised. The sheet weaver, or some people
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call him sheet web spiders. It looks like that somebody
just put a sheet or a little parachute of silk
over a taxis for example, or funnel web spiders look
very similar, but there's going to be a funnel that
the spider stays in. I know that's one of your
favorite spiders, right, Yeah, you have a bit of a
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fear of spiders, this one that that you will pops out.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, then I hear him stream again.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I've heard you described using a pencil to.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Kind of Yeah, you put the pencil in there and
kind of just tease them a little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Now I gotta ask, do you use just a standard
number two pencil or is it like a three foot.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Long it's one of those three you get like at
the fair and stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, that's right at the pumpkin way off. So we've
gone full circle. But it's it's important though, And I always,
you know I talked about spiders always emphasize this, you
know it they eat insects. I mean in Ohio that's
actually basically almost all that they eat. Yeah, we have
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one fishing or a couple of fishing spiders that may
take small fish, but by and large, spiders in Ohio
eat insects and they're very important as biocontrol agents and
and not just in in forest like where this arrowhead spider.
But they're also extremely important in agricultural crops, and a
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lot of people don't realize that they can seriously reduce.
They can't if you have an outbreak of something. They're
not capable of completely wiping out a major past. However,
just kind of flying beneath the radar, spiders helped to
suppress pasts that are important to us, including mosquitos. So
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it's important not to kill them. That's all start there
and a misconception, and we hear this all the time.
I was bitten by spider. You know a lot of
times people believe in the night they were bitten by
spiders and so on. Well, research conducted over the last
twenty to thirty years. In fact, a researcher out in
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California who did a lot of work looking into some
of one of the more serious spiders, the funnel, I
mean not the funnel, the recluse spiders. I've found that,
as a matter of fact, it's extremely rare for spiders
to bite people, and what we think are spider bites
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are in fact most often bacterial infections, and that includes
the so called recluse bites. Now I know that there
will be some out there, and I'm not trying to
you know, I'm not trying to question you know, aunt Agatha,
you know who claimed that she got bitten by a recluse.
So I'm not trying to do that. I'm just pointing
out though, we do have to leave open other possibilities.
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And in this case, as I said, if you just
do some online looking on recluse bites, you'll run across
this fellow's research. And like I said, the vast majority,
even in areas not including Ohio, where recluse spiders can
be found outdoors, even in those areas, the bites are
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almost almost zero, I mean, just extremely rare. But all
these large wounds that people think are spider bites are
predominantly bacterial infection. So it's just important to just leave
them alone, let them do what they do for us.
And then of course next year, you know, they come
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back and do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And you said spiders overwinter in the eggs, right in
the egg form, do they do they have to be protected?
I mean, is that to have to stay warm or
are they able to?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, that's an excellent question. And again, out of those
six hundred and twenty species, some of them overwinters as
as adults, some as spiderlings. But but I don't know
the percentage. I'd say maybe the vast majority, but can't
say for certain that they overwinter as eggs. And yeah,
they usually put them in some of a somewhat of
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a protected area so they're not being blasted by by
winter winds. However, we have to keep in mind that's
milk is a nice insulator. I mean, you know, silk
clothing that we use is not exactly the same structure obviously,
but the point being is that that, yeah, the females
will tuck them in different locations, you know, very often underbark,
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sometimes in you know, in leaf debris, so they do
hide them or I should say, put them in protective spots.
And then in the springing course, we had this spider hatch,
spiderling hatch, and they produce a little little, you know,
a little bit of silk that the spiderling remains attached to,
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and the wind then picks up the silk and the
spider ling and blows them about. So that's why spiders
seem to just all of a sudden appear, because those
spider lings are very very tiny. But then we'll see
silk often, you know, just kind of hanging out on
shrubs and you think where did that come from? But
then you know later in the season as a spider
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in size, and then we start seeing them because and
that's what's happening right now, we're seeing the mature spiders.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Interesting, great information, Buggy, Joe Boggs. We got to go
always a pleasure again the website b y G L
dot os U dot E du have a fantastic weekend
and go Bucks.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Go Bucks. Can't wait till this evening.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Right Bucks versus the Ducks.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh yeah, that's gonna be a We'll have to talk
about it next week, you know when O issues number one.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Take care, Joe, ah, you take care of a great week.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Bye bye, all right, bye bye, Buggy Joe Boggs. I
wish you extension quick break we come back. Phone lines
are open for you at eight two to one w
TV and coming up at the top of the hour.
We've had this lady on our show before. As a
matter of fact, the first time we had her on
our show, I met her at the Columbus Home and
Garden Show. She had a booth there and she was
just getting started in she she works with getting more
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folks involved with learning about native bees, not the European
honey bee, but the native bees, mostly the orchard or
mason bees and the leafcutter bees because they're such great pollinators.
They're in our backyards. And her work was to develop
the better bee houses, distribute those, get the information out
there to help increase these populations in your in my backyard,
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which we are all trying to do. And since then
she has taken that to all new levels, including they
went through some research over the last I think three
years to come up with a blend of seeds of
wildflowers that are the top of the list for native
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bees and of course the Olli bees will enjoy them
their favorite flowers. And she'll tell you more how they
came up with this very interesting story and how you
can get it and plant it and create these gardens
with this botanical bee blend in your backyard. It's Justina
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dot com. We come back, we'll have the funnel onders
open for you here in the garden with Ron Wilson
on his radio six to ten WTVN eight two to
one w TV and is our number. Don't forget our
special website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com. Our plant
pick of the week this week is something you're gonna
start to see showed up more and more as the
leaves start to drop off of our plants. It's a
way underused landscape shrub. I'm telling you. It can be
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used in the borders, screen planting, things like that. But
it's the deciduous hollies. Ilex verticiladas are usually the ones
that you'll see sold mostly in your local garden centers
and nurseries, but common name winterberry, and you know again
during the season, they're just kind of normal looking large shrubs.
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There are some smaller dwarf varieties as well, but most
of them can get six eight ten feet high and wide.
There are male and female. The female gets the berry
just like your broadleafevergreen hollies. Female gets to berry, So
you need every six or seven females. You need a
male for the pollination, and then the rest is up
to the bees, obviously. But I like this plant because
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it's just it's tough, it's durable. I think they're hardy
to like. Zone three they'll take moist soils, sun depart shade,
pretty much, take about any spots you put them in
as far as growing. But when those leaves turn yellow
in the fall, and they're doing it right now and
they fall off, you get these really bright red orange
red and there is one that's a yellow gold berry
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that's just absolutely spectacular. I mean, they really load up
with the berries and they stay on there for quite
some time until the birds eventually start to eat them off,
but they usually wait till more into the winter before
they feed on those. So it's a really cool plant, tough, durable,
not something you have to do a lot of maintenance
with way under use. I think in the landscape. There's
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a bunch of varieties available for you winter red, afterglow,
red sprite, shortcake berry, heavy winter gold for that yellow berry.
And then of course there are males available for you too.
They'll sell them Apollo, Jim Danny, Southern Gentleman, all of
those that you have to plant to get the berries.
But again keep that one in mind. It's a deciduous holly.
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Most of the ones again called commonly known as winter
berry hollis boy. They put on a terrific show starting
here just shortly as the leaves all fall, and it
carries right into the winter season. Check it out at
your local independent, the nursery and garden center, to the
gardening phone lines. We shall go. Doug, good morning, Good morning, Ron.
(25:35):
Thanks you call my pleasure.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Thanks for all the information you give us every Saturday.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Sure appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I know I'll push it in the window a little
bit putting grass seed down. But I've got this slope
about six sixty square feet where we had put the
yard in before. Got a lot of rain when we
did that, so it's furrowed pretty hard, so just rough
as a cop. When you mow, you're peeking to death
on the mower. So got a load of top soil
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dropped off and back dragging it with the tractor bucket.
Then I pulled a drag behind it. It's finn seated
here this morning. Would your roll it is my question
for you?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
No, you know if no, I don't like I mean,
if it's a really light roller, you can do that.
And actually you can do that, have to put seed
down if you wanted to, but I don't, you know,
the soils are already compact enough and I think, you know, again,
if it's a light roller and you're trying to just
kind of push it down a bit, that's okay. But
I'm not a big roller fan. Uh But you know again,
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light roller on a hillside like that, and I understand
where you're coming from getting it to get down in
those cracks and crevices and all that you worked there,
that's fine. I think the important thing, I don't know
what you're going to do after you put the seed
in the fertilizer down. Are you going to put a
rojon netting over the top of that?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I thought about it if if I was hoping to
avoid that the slope, you know, it's significant, it's not
real deep. But I was hoping that there's enough turf
there already that I'm the erosion I did with the
original Bear dirt.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Got it so there are there's already some turf there.
If that's the case, I I wouldn't roll it. I'd
get to get the soil out, get it graded in,
and you know, then I take it from there that
I'd seed, you know, the fertilizer, and you know, if
you can get away without putting seed or straw down
or the erosion netting is great. Uh, And you know
the thing of it is with the timing. I'm gonna
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do some this weekend. I've got some bare spots. I'm
gonna have to go ahead and fill back in. I'm
gonna rake and go and put some seed down, turf
type tall fescues and the perennial rise. You know, looking
at the long range forecast, I think we still have
time to get those up Bluegrass. I wouldn't mess with
it this stage. So we are on the cusp, there's
no doubt about it. But I'm gonna give it a
shot myself. So hopefully it'll work out for you.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Well, it makes me feel a whole lot better that
you're doing the same.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I'm doing the same. Have a great day, all right, Doug,
You too appreciate it. And and again we are there,
the windows starting to close. You know, we had to
hold off because of the drought and hot and dry.
I'd understand that. And I'm gonna take a chance myself,
and I'm not on a slope. That's the only thing
that kind of concerns me. And if it doesn't come up,
you know, that could all wash out autum over the wintertime,
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and that may be a decision you could still make
later on. You just see, we're gett late in the season,
you're not seeing anything come up. You know that you
come and put the erosion netting down to try to
hold that into place, to keep that from washing out again. Now,
the other issue is this if you put it down.
There is a pro to that because if you put
it down a little bit, you know, like now, that
helps to hold the heat into the soil. Sometimes you
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grass seed will germanyate a little bit faster coming up
through that. That may that maybe one time where there
is the pro to that, because I've seen some areas
that they see it here recently that they put straw
on in the little netting and it's already starting to
come up through it. So that would be the plus
of doing that, just to get that to come up
a little bit faster. Then you might want to think
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about that as well. But if it doesn't come up
and we get it in the end of October first November,
you probably want to think about doing it anyway to
protect yourself from further erosion. Right quick quick break, we
come back. Mark you're coming up next. Phone lines wrote
for you at eight two to one WTVN. Here on
news radio six to ten WTVN, Welcome back, You're in
the garden with Ron Wilson here on news radio six
(29:21):
' ten WTVN, talking about yardening. As we are moving
our way through the fall season. Don't forget fall is
a great time for planting and you still have lots
of time to get out and plant trees and shrubs
and evergreens and roses and ornamental grasses. You know, obviously,
the sooner you get them in, the more time they're
going to have with these warmer soils to start to
root in before we get into the winter season. But
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you know, the thing good is think about it. September, October, November,
and even into December. You almost have four months of
gardening time to get out and get this taken care of.
So you know, you're right in the middle of it.
So you know, if you put it off because of
the heat and the drought, I get that totally. But
you know, we still have time, and you know, you
get out to your local independent garden centers, you'll find
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great selections of trees and shrubs and that out there.
Let's get or done. Let's get them planted and get
them settled in, and then next spring you can sit
back and watch them take off and grow because you
planted them in the fall. Hey Mark, good.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Morning, Good morning Ron.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
How are you today?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Good in yourself?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Hey? I apologize. First off, I never got back with
you on my email about what to do when we
went away on vacation with some freshly planeted stuff. Luckily
we got that two plus inches of rain a couple
of days while we were gone, so everything worked.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Out good, good for you.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
So I'm calling.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
What I did was I put a small green house
up last year, and I called you and asked you
about how I overwintered my peppers and so forth like that.
Planning on carrying those peppers back in because they're still
producing it or still in the ponds. My question is
what do I do, like with cannas or anything like that.
Can I put those in there and try to win
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them over? Now I have a small heater, I keep
it like forty five degrees. I didn't know what all
I could do because I did winter over Gerbert daisies
last year. Actually I left them in the big pot
through a frost blanket over them and just kind of
watered them every now and then.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
That works, I think with the cannas, and if you
do like Dallas and summer balls things like that, they
actually want to be They want to go dormant, and
they want to set at about forty five, not forty five,
but the upper forties, fifty to fifty five degrees somewhere
in that range. And unfortunately that greenhouse it may I
don't know, you have to tell me, it may get
too cold in there. You don't want them to freeze,
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that would be the big thing. And you don't want
it to be too warm, because we really don't want
them to start growing again until we get into March
or so, which then your greenhouse could come in handy
because then you could repot those early, get them started early,
so when you go to put them outside, once the
weather breaks, you're ready to go. But otherwise they want
that dormant period. So wherever you wind up putting them away,
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you know it's got to stay somewhere that upper forties
fifty to fifty five degrees, but no warmer or they'll
start to regrow again.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So kind of cut the tops off and just kind
of put them in there. I mean everything about gardening,
you know it. It was an experiment.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh yeah, yeah. The thing of it is you want
to get rid of the foliage. So the best thing
to do is leave them sit out there as long
as you can. Let Mother nature frost them and freeze
them a few times to kill the tops off. The
ground's not going to freeze. It's going to take a
long time before you get into the freezing grounds, so
let her take care of with the frost, kill the
tops off. Once the tops are pretty much brown, you
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can cut those off. If they're in containers, you can
just move right inside. If not, you dig them up,
kind of clean them off a little bit and put
them in a container or a box and then set
them inside there. And again, just watch your temperatures because
once it starts to get above fifty five degrees consists,
those things are going to start to regrow, which is
okay because then that you get a jump start on
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it next spring and have some nice ice plants by
the time, you know, the middle of May rolls around.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I was kind of planning on maybe just once you,
like you said, once they die, cut them out, cut them,
leave them in the pot, put them on the ground.
In the greenhouse because that's on a on some stone.
I figured that'd be the coolest place. Yeah, and uh,
like I said, I'm out nothing. If they die now,
they die. If they come back next year, hey, I'm
one step closer.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, they'll they'll come back, I get. My only concern
is if it stays warm in here, that they'll start
to regrow too early. Then you've got to make sure,
you know, you keep the temperatures warm. That would be
my my big concern is just staying too warm over
the winter time.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Okay, well we'll try it. Like I said, well I
got nothing to lose.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
All right, Mark, and let me know. Well, thanks Ron,
all right, good talking with you. And that's that's the
thing about those and I and one of my notes
here today is the frost versus freezes. You know, we've
got frost coming up. Jerry rose up and uh a Huntsburg,
Northeastern Ohio sent me a picture of his thermometer this
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week and it was twenty nine where they're low. But
you know, we went to twenty nine, came right back
up again. But his point was season about over, and yeah,
that'll put it into it. But frosts and freezes are
two different things. And so when you have cannas and
dahlias and things like that in the ground that you
don't want to freeze, I get that. But you know again,
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the frost all those are that's not freezing the ground.
All the frosts are doing is knocking the topsaw for
you there to get rid of all of the cannon
foliage and the dalia foliage and kalladiums and all of that.
Let mother nature do that for you. And then eventually
you're going to get in there and once the temperature
is really cool down and you'll cut those tops off,
You'll get them out of the ground, you'll clean them up,
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you store them away in a cooler area fifty degrees
or so, bring them back out next spring and start
it all over again. So you got plenty of time.
Don't worry about freezing of the soil for those plants,
and let mother nature fraud out the tops for you.
And anytime right now, anything in my yard and garden
I'm not covering over at this stage in the game,
because it's time for most of that to get frosted out. Anyway,
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we come back from the break, we've got just Tina
block with US coming up here on news radio six,
n WTVN
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden here on news radio six ' ten
WTVN eight two to one WTVN eight hundred and six
ten WTVN. Those are our numbers. Jump on board talking
about yardening. Uh yeah, we're can you believe this? In
the October big time? And guess what, I hope we
get some showers because it's getting dry out there. Can
(00:22):
you believe that? Yeah? Well, can I say? And I
don't see a whole lot of rain in the forecast,
but nevertheless, hopefully a little bit of showers. We don't
want them tomorrow afternoon from about one o'clock until well
noon until about five o'clock because it's the big giant
Pumpkin National Way Off at the Oakland Nursery in Dublin.
We're gonna be MCing that tomorrow, so stop out and
(00:44):
say hello. And again it usually kicks off about one thirty,
so you know, hopefully you at that time the sun
will shine, we'll get through the Pumpkin Way Off, and
then some showers can move back in. I would go
for that, but that's at the Oakland Nursery in Dublin.
One sixty one there and then, like I said, it
kicks off usually the way off stars about one thirty
(01:05):
or so. So stop out and say hello, let's kick
off our show as we always do with the Buggy
Joe Boggs report. That would be Joe Boggs. He's an
assistant professor commercials y Yeah, University tention. I went to
your department entromology. What website?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I love the introduction.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Website b y g L dot os U dot E
d U, Ladies and gentlemen. Mister common sense, he called
himself Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Good morning, sir, Good morning. Now I need to ask this.
Do you ever do do you ever show up with
your name tag, you know, being Linus van Pelt and
uh and you're there to experience the great Pumpkin? Is that?
Do you ever think about doing that? I have not,
(01:54):
but it's not a bad idea, is it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I have to think about now I will have to
think about that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
One, you know that was that was always I have
to say, to some degree, that was always kind of
like the saddest, the saddest Charles Schultz, you know a
series of cartoons you know later of course, you know
turned into into television shows. You know, it's the Great Pumpkin,
(02:21):
Charlie Brown, right Carlinus, you know, just waiting, and it
was such a different take on on our different holidays.
I always thought, you know, and it's of course been
with us forever. This this reference is probably not demographically oriented,
unlike most of those that you and I are starting
(02:42):
to use these days.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right, Yeah, I think most people know who Charlie Brown is.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Charlie Brown and the Great Pumpkin. Yes, they play it
every year, so that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah. I always have a good time. It's it is fun.
Last year, boy, there was a couple the I forget
what the top one was like twenty three twenty four
hundred pounds, so they looked like they have like many
you know, little volkswagens sitting on top of palettes.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well you said, I remember talking about that last year.
I'm just constantly amazed. And across the country, you know,
there are just different you know, giant pumpkin wayoffs you
know that occur in different areas.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Hamilton's numbers, Hamilton's I think they've really gotten big two there.
Theirs was either last night or today this all weekend,
but they had one going on too, and yeah, it's amazing.
As a matter of fact, just so you know, Joe,
I want to give you updated The world record to
date is twenty two seven and forty nine pounds, all right,
(03:46):
and that was broken last year from the Gentleman out
of Minnesota. So far as of yesterday, now I didn't
check if Hamilton's had any way off shut or not,
is twenty six forty one so about one hundred pounds short.
So pretty close there. But one of the guys that's
going to be at the way off tomorrow at Oakland
(04:07):
Dave and his wife. I think it's Carol Steltz. And
actually Carol's one who grows the pumpkins. They have one
already at almost twenty five hundred pounds and this one
was supposed to going to be bigger. So we'll see
what they bring to the table tomorrow. So it should
be pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Wow, that's that's going to be a subject of great
discussion next week. I'm just it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Will be you know, you know the other one they
always give me because you're your tomato grower and you
love tomatoes. The world record tomatoes eleven point six five pounds.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I mean, can you. I mean we're now talking
the size of.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's just difficult to carve though. For some reason, they
just kind of mush out right.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now when you slice, not when you slice it across
the entire width of the tomato.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You imagine the size of amberger.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That would have to be a pretty good yeah, pretty
good sized burger.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I'm kind of thinking, yeah, I'm sort of connecting the
dots here, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, the biggest, the biggest so far this year is
ten point two pounds.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And Jerry Rose, who's on our show on a regular basis,
he'll have his big pumpkins tomorrow at at Oakland as well.
He is, Uh, he's in the top fifty I think
at six point seven pounder.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That's incredible. That is really remarkable.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's always fun to see what these folks do and
then you know they're they're competitive, but on the same token,
they enjoy talking about what they do and how they
get there. So it's always fun because they'll share all
any and all information with you, uh, you know, as
far as how to do these and how to grow them,
and it's it's a lot of fun. You should come
up and check it out.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I would love to. You know, that's a and you're right,
gardeners are They're a special breed, aren't they. And when
and when you consider you know that, I think the
view is one person's six is everyone's success, because next
year you can try it out. I mean, you know
you have a tip on gardening, Well, next year you
(06:09):
might say, well, I'm gonna a good example of that.
And and now this kind of goes to a story
about your dad. Now, I grew up that we did
use straw sometimes in our gardens. But when I got here,
when I came over here and we had an area
for a larger garden, you know, you had said to me,
(06:32):
I mean early on, because we've known each other for
quite a while now, you'd said that your dad would
would consistently put down straw in the vegetable garden.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Right right to put it to bed for the summer.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, And I started doing the same thing. So that's
you know, that's how this works. It's and of course
you know where we live now, I don't have a
spot for as large a garden, but that that just
changed everything because you could walk around the garden, you know,
even when it was wet, you know, because that straw
(07:05):
helped this tribute your weight, you didn't compact the soil
quite as bad. And of course in the fall, you
know you could depend on if you wrote a tilt
or whatever you wanted to do, you could just turn
it into the soil and just leave it lay there
and do it in the spring. And you know, by
that time the straw had decayed to where you're adding
a lot of nice organic matter back into the soil.
(07:26):
So so there you have it, I mean, the complete
circle with your dad and gardening and learning that you know,
something new that really did pay off. So that's a
that's a very nice thing about the the pumpkin ears.
I just made that up rights. You might need to
(07:46):
use that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I'm writing it down for tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Sharing information for.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
By the way, your buggies Jo Bog called you all
pump pumpkin ears.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Pumpkin ears. Yeah, uh, that doesn't sound quite as good
when we repeated a few times.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Does it tell me? By the way, my celebrity friend
Rob Rider said to tell you hello, he loves listen
to your segment.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh well, same here. And I do have to say
one last thing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
About you, Rob Rider.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I do I.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
See my celebrity friend. He start in Shawshank redemption. Oh,
there you go, there you go, and he listens to you.
He loves your segment. So there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, now I'm all nervous, and that's why I told you.
I know, I know, I'm I mean, I you see
what's happening. I can't think now, he stumbling around trying
to happen on the pumpkin pie, my favorite pie. Just
a little side note there is that your favorite? It
really is? I have to say I've gone you know, Actually,
(08:48):
who am I trying to kid? Every pie is my favorite?
I really don't have it. I don't know that I've
ever had a pie I didn't like. Maybe maybe peanut butter.
I have to admit, you know, sweet peanut butter is
not in.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
A butter pie.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I know, I know. I think it's either it's.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
The mince meat mince meat pie.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well I do, yeah that is yeah, yeah, it's just
you put it in the crust and I'll eat it. Well,
to some degree, I just realized what I said. Unless
it's a buggy pie, yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Spiders and bugs like that, you will go.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I won't go that far.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Or moths in your coffee.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
No, no, that's oh my goodness. I was hungry. And
now you've done something. It's changed a whole dynamic.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You'll have to go to McDonald's day and get that big,
big chicken mac or whatever they call it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I heard something about that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I have to check it out.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Were we going to talk about any insects or anything
or just not really just a.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, I think after you know how you like this.
I'm looking at my watch. I realize that you're probably
being tapped about. Hey, yeah, yes, we'll talk about some spiders.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Okay, that's great because I don't I don't like right,
it's very creepy and bug and snail. Yes, spiders and snakes.
Maybe we'll play that for the bumper music we come
back like talking with Buggy. Joe Boggs here on news
Radio six ' ten w tv N absolutely love this song.
(10:18):
I had to keep it going after that commercial.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Got it in my head.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Ride is a little higher. Tell me Joe Boggs that
you didn't cruise down the street on your John Deere
tractor singing this.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, I did the roller windows there?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Or was it an Alice Chalmers?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, maybe it was a massy Ferguson. Was it a
massy It was a massy Ferguson. Okay, we thought we
were We thought we were really in high cotton. And
then we got that tractor for the farm.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Singing lou ride.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah that's right. Tried to slam it to the ground,
but it never worked. Okay, So that's so that's that's
the reference. A few people will get less they they're
less a car person, right yep. So well, I had
an encounter. Really, I mean, you know, you talk about
being a little frightened of spiders and snakes. I thought
(11:23):
you were going to play that one. That's that's we
gotta we gotta find that one for the future. But
I had an encounter this past week and at one
of our local parks. Not a big park, and but
it has very nice, flat, wide trails that that you know,
pretty much free of stones and roots and things that
can trip you up, so you can kind of for me,
(11:44):
for example, I can sort of cruise along and look
for things to take pictures right without having to look
down and make sure I don't twist an anchor ankle.
The downside of that is there's a little tiny spider
probably not much larger in diameter than a dime. That
has a most descriptive name. It's called an arrowhead spider. Now,
(12:06):
anyone that hikes in Ohio woods, you've come across these
spiders because for some reason, they love to put their
webs across trails. I don't know why. You can get
off the trail and go out in the woods and
you just don't see as many.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's not as much fun, I think.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So I think I think they all. You know, there's
probably one spider across the trail and about twenty off
of the side, just saying, wait for it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh yeah, wait for it. Here he comes, wait for it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
There you go. So they're a type of orb weaver,
and I just very quickly. Orb weavers are spiders that
they create a circular web, and these really do create
they can for their size, it's amazing how large of
a web they can produce. But they love to hang out,
you know, right in the middle of a trail. So
(12:57):
I was looking off to one side, not handle a
lot of attention to the what was in front of me,
because I really didn't have to, you know, kind of
looking over here and looking over there, and and I
did just happen to look back when this spider was
probably about one inch from my eyeball, Thank goodness, I
wear glasses now. It went from dime size, it's about
(13:20):
the size of a I just about the size of
a grizzly bear. I mean that thing was huge. And
of course, as you know, you you've freely admitted you
know a little bit of a rach andophobia. Well, I
will tell you the spider, not me, you know, not
anything else. The spider made kind of a high pitched
noise when that happened, because because I couldn't stop, you know,
(13:44):
like that it is it is not you, Yeah, not
me exactly. That's my story. I'm sticking to it. So yeah,
I just because I was in full stride and I
saw this and couldn't stop and went right into it.
And like I said, I don't really know what happened
to the spider. I did the spider dance though. That's
(14:06):
just a you know, that's just an honor of this.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh sure, right, right, you have to do that? Is
that is that arrow thing? Is it's white?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It has are it?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Does?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's you know, that's a very good description. I'm going
to probably post the biggle about about spiders because many
of the over six hundred and twenty species of spiders
that we have in Ohio, many of them over winter
as eggs. So it means that they they come to
maturity and mate in the late summer to early fall.
(14:44):
And that's what's happening right now. That's why we see
so many of these spiders right now. So, yeah, this
is one that's so common and I've never I've never
described that white marking. The arrow comes from the abdomen
looks like it just looks it's exactly Yeah, it looks
(15:06):
like it's ahead cookie's.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Frosted on top. His eyes are kind of small for
the size of the spider, but well that's.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Because they don't need to see much from people walk
into their web, let me tell you. Yeah, So that's
what's happening, is that we're starting to, you know, pick
up on some of the spiders that seemed to be absent.
I mean, I would have to admit this season, I
was a bit surprised. The sheet weaver, or some people
(15:37):
call him sheet web spiders. It looks like that somebody
just put a sheet or a little parachute of silk
over a taxis for example, or funnel web spiders look
very similar, but there's going to be a funnel that
the spider stays in. I know that's one of your
favorite spiders, right, Yeah, you have a bit of a
(15:59):
fear of spiders, this one that that you will pops out.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, then I hear him stream again.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I've heard you described using a pencil to.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Kind of Yeah, you put the pencil in there and
kind of just tease them a little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Now I gotta ask, do you use just a standard
number two pencil or is it like a three foot.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Long it's one of those three you get like at
the fair and stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, that's right at the pumpkin way off. So we've
gone full circle. But it's it's important though, And I always,
you know I talked about spiders always emphasize this, you
know it they eat insects. I mean in Ohio that's
actually basically almost all that they eat. Yeah, we have
(16:43):
one fishing or a couple of fishing spiders that may
take small fish, but by and large, spiders in Ohio
eat insects and they're very important as biocontrol agents and
and not just in in forest like where this arrowhead spider.
But they're also extremely important in agricultural crops, and a
(17:04):
lot of people don't realize that they can seriously reduce.
They can't if you have an outbreak of something. They're
not capable of completely wiping out a major past. However,
just kind of flying beneath the radar, spiders helped to
suppress pasts that are important to us, including mosquitos. So
(17:25):
it's important not to kill them. That's all start there
and a misconception, and we hear this all the time.
I was bitten by spider. You know a lot of
times people believe in the night they were bitten by
spiders and so on. Well, research conducted over the last
twenty to thirty years. In fact, a researcher out in
(17:47):
California who did a lot of work looking into some
of one of the more serious spiders, the funnel, I
mean not the funnel, the recluse spiders. I've found that,
as a matter of fact, it's extremely rare for spiders
to bite people, and what we think are spider bites
(18:11):
are in fact most often bacterial infections, and that includes
the so called recluse bites. Now I know that there
will be some out there, and I'm not trying to
you know, I'm not trying to question you know, aunt Agatha,
you know who claimed that she got bitten by a recluse.
So I'm not trying to do that. I'm just pointing
out though, we do have to leave open other possibilities.
(18:35):
And in this case, as I said, if you just
do some online looking on recluse bites, you'll run across
this fellow's research. And like I said, the vast majority,
even in areas not including Ohio, where recluse spiders can
be found outdoors, even in those areas, the bites are
(18:57):
almost almost zero, I mean, just extremely rare. But all
these large wounds that people think are spider bites are
predominantly bacterial infection. So it's just important to just leave
them alone, let them do what they do for us.
And then of course next year, you know, they come
(19:18):
back and do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And you said spiders overwinter in the eggs, right in
the egg form, do they do they have to be protected?
I mean, is that to have to stay warm or
are they able to?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, that's an excellent question. And again, out of those
six hundred and twenty species, some of them overwinters as
as adults, some as spiderlings. But but I don't know
the percentage. I'd say maybe the vast majority, but can't
say for certain that they overwinter as eggs. And yeah,
they usually put them in some of a somewhat of
(19:52):
a protected area so they're not being blasted by by
winter winds. However, we have to keep in mind that's
milk is a nice insulator. I mean, you know, silk
clothing that we use is not exactly the same structure obviously,
but the point being is that that, yeah, the females
will tuck them in different locations, you know, very often underbark,
(20:15):
sometimes in you know, in leaf debris, so they do
hide them or I should say, put them in protective spots.
And then in the springing course, we had this spider hatch,
spiderling hatch, and they produce a little little, you know,
a little bit of silk that the spiderling remains attached to,
(20:37):
and the wind then picks up the silk and the
spider ling and blows them about. So that's why spiders
seem to just all of a sudden appear, because those
spider lings are very very tiny. But then we'll see
silk often, you know, just kind of hanging out on
shrubs and you think where did that come from? But
then you know later in the season as a spider
(21:00):
in size, and then we start seeing them because and
that's what's happening right now, we're seeing the mature spiders.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Interesting, great information, Buggy, Joe Boggs. We got to go
always a pleasure again the website b y G L
dot os U dot E du have a fantastic weekend
and go Bucks.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Go Bucks. Can't wait till this evening.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Right Bucks versus the Ducks.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh yeah, that's gonna be a We'll have to talk
about it next week, you know when O issues number one.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Take care, Joe, ah, you take care of a great week.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Bye bye, all right, bye bye, Buggy Joe Boggs. I
wish you extension quick break we come back. Phone lines
are open for you at eight two to one w
TV and coming up at the top of the hour.
We've had this lady on our show before. As a
matter of fact, the first time we had her on
our show, I met her at the Columbus Home and
Garden Show. She had a booth there and she was
just getting started in she she works with getting more
(21:57):
folks involved with learning about native bees, not the European
honey bee, but the native bees, mostly the orchard or
mason bees and the leafcutter bees because they're such great pollinators.
They're in our backyards. And her work was to develop
the better bee houses, distribute those, get the information out
there to help increase these populations in your in my backyard,
(22:21):
which we are all trying to do. And since then
she has taken that to all new levels, including they
went through some research over the last I think three
years to come up with a blend of seeds of
wildflowers that are the top of the list for native
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dot com. We come back, we'll have the funnel onders
open for you here in the garden with Ron Wilson
on his radio six to ten WTVN eight two to
one w TV and is our number. Don't forget our
special website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com. Our plant
pick of the week this week is something you're gonna
start to see showed up more and more as the
leaves start to drop off of our plants. It's a
way underused landscape shrub. I'm telling you. It can be
(23:26):
used in the borders, screen planting, things like that. But
it's the deciduous hollies. Ilex verticiladas are usually the ones
that you'll see sold mostly in your local garden centers
and nurseries, but common name winterberry, and you know again
during the season, they're just kind of normal looking large shrubs.
(23:47):
There are some smaller dwarf varieties as well, but most
of them can get six eight ten feet high and wide.
There are male and female. The female gets the berry
just like your broadleafevergreen hollies. Female gets to berry, So
you need every six or seven females. You need a
male for the pollination, and then the rest is up
to the bees, obviously. But I like this plant because
(24:09):
it's just it's tough, it's durable. I think they're hardy
to like. Zone three they'll take moist soils, sun depart shade,
pretty much, take about any spots you put them in
as far as growing. But when those leaves turn yellow
in the fall, and they're doing it right now and
they fall off, you get these really bright red orange
red and there is one that's a yellow gold berry
(24:32):
that's just absolutely spectacular. I mean, they really load up
with the berries and they stay on there for quite
some time until the birds eventually start to eat them off,
but they usually wait till more into the winter before
they feed on those. So it's a really cool plant, tough, durable,
not something you have to do a lot of maintenance
with way under use. I think in the landscape. There's
(24:53):
a bunch of varieties available for you winter red, afterglow,
red sprite, shortcake berry, heavy winter gold for that yellow berry.
And then of course there are males available for you too.
They'll sell them Apollo, Jim Danny, Southern Gentleman, all of
those that you have to plant to get the berries.
But again keep that one in mind. It's a deciduous holly.
(25:14):
Most of the ones again called commonly known as winter
berry hollis boy. They put on a terrific show starting
here just shortly as the leaves all fall, and it
carries right into the winter season. Check it out at
your local independent, the nursery and garden center, to the
gardening phone lines. We shall go. Doug, good morning, Good morning, Ron.
(25:35):
Thanks you call my pleasure.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Thanks for all the information you give us every Saturday.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Sure appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I know I'll push it in the window a little
bit putting grass seed down. But I've got this slope
about six sixty square feet where we had put the
yard in before. Got a lot of rain when we
did that, so it's furrowed pretty hard, so just rough
as a cop. When you mow, you're peeking to death
on the mower. So got a load of top soil
(26:02):
dropped off and back dragging it with the tractor bucket.
Then I pulled a drag behind it. It's finn seated
here this morning. Would your roll it is my question
for you?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
No, you know if no, I don't like I mean,
if it's a really light roller, you can do that.
And actually you can do that, have to put seed
down if you wanted to, but I don't, you know,
the soils are already compact enough and I think, you know, again,
if it's a light roller and you're trying to just
kind of push it down a bit, that's okay. But
I'm not a big roller fan. Uh But you know again,
(26:36):
light roller on a hillside like that, and I understand
where you're coming from getting it to get down in
those cracks and crevices and all that you worked there,
that's fine. I think the important thing, I don't know
what you're going to do after you put the seed
in the fertilizer down. Are you going to put a
rojon netting over the top of that?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I thought about it if if I was hoping to
avoid that the slope, you know, it's significant, it's not
real deep. But I was hoping that there's enough turf
there already that I'm the erosion I did with the
original Bear dirt.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Got it so there are there's already some turf there.
If that's the case, I I wouldn't roll it. I'd
get to get the soil out, get it graded in,
and you know, then I take it from there that
I'd seed, you know, the fertilizer, and you know, if
you can get away without putting seed or straw down
or the erosion netting is great. Uh, And you know
the thing of it is with the timing. I'm gonna
(27:29):
do some this weekend. I've got some bare spots. I'm
gonna have to go ahead and fill back in. I'm
gonna rake and go and put some seed down, turf
type tall fescues and the perennial rise. You know, looking
at the long range forecast, I think we still have
time to get those up Bluegrass. I wouldn't mess with
it this stage. So we are on the cusp, there's
no doubt about it. But I'm gonna give it a
shot myself. So hopefully it'll work out for you.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Well, it makes me feel a whole lot better that
you're doing the same.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I'm doing the same. Have a great day, all right, Doug,
You too appreciate it. And and again we are there,
the windows starting to close. You know, we had to
hold off because of the drought and hot and dry.
I'd understand that. And I'm gonna take a chance myself,
and I'm not on a slope. That's the only thing
that kind of concerns me. And if it doesn't come up,
you know, that could all wash out autum over the wintertime,
(28:15):
and that may be a decision you could still make
later on. You just see, we're gett late in the season,
you're not seeing anything come up. You know that you
come and put the erosion netting down to try to
hold that into place, to keep that from washing out again. Now,
the other issue is this if you put it down.
There is a pro to that because if you put
it down a little bit, you know, like now, that
helps to hold the heat into the soil. Sometimes you
(28:37):
grass seed will germanyate a little bit faster coming up
through that. That may that maybe one time where there
is the pro to that, because I've seen some areas
that they see it here recently that they put straw
on in the little netting and it's already starting to
come up through it. So that would be the plus
of doing that, just to get that to come up
a little bit faster. Then you might want to think
(29:00):
about that as well. But if it doesn't come up
and we get it in the end of October first November,
you probably want to think about doing it anyway to
protect yourself from further erosion. Right quick quick break, we
come back. Mark you're coming up next. Phone lines wrote
for you at eight two to one WTVN. Here on
news radio six to ten WTVN, Welcome back, You're in
the garden with Ron Wilson here on news radio six
(29:21):
' ten WTVN, talking about yardening. As we are moving
our way through the fall season. Don't forget fall is
a great time for planting and you still have lots
of time to get out and plant trees and shrubs
and evergreens and roses and ornamental grasses. You know, obviously,
the sooner you get them in, the more time they're
going to have with these warmer soils to start to
root in before we get into the winter season. But
(29:43):
you know, the thing good is think about it. September, October, November,
and even into December. You almost have four months of
gardening time to get out and get this taken care of.
So you know, you're right in the middle of it.
So you know, if you put it off because of
the heat and the drought, I get that totally. But
you know, we still have time, and you know, you
get out to your local independent garden centers, you'll find
(30:04):
great selections of trees and shrubs and that out there.
Let's get or done. Let's get them planted and get
them settled in, and then next spring you can sit
back and watch them take off and grow because you
planted them in the fall. Hey Mark, good.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Morning, Good morning Ron.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
How are you today?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Good in yourself?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Hey? I apologize. First off, I never got back with
you on my email about what to do when we
went away on vacation with some freshly planeted stuff. Luckily
we got that two plus inches of rain a couple
of days while we were gone, so everything worked.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Out good, good for you.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
So I'm calling.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
What I did was I put a small green house
up last year, and I called you and asked you
about how I overwintered my peppers and so forth like that.
Planning on carrying those peppers back in because they're still
producing it or still in the ponds. My question is
what do I do, like with cannas or anything like that.
Can I put those in there and try to win
(31:03):
them over? Now I have a small heater, I keep
it like forty five degrees. I didn't know what all
I could do because I did winter over Gerbert daisies
last year. Actually I left them in the big pot
through a frost blanket over them and just kind of
watered them every now and then.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
That works, I think with the cannas, and if you
do like Dallas and summer balls things like that, they
actually want to be They want to go dormant, and
they want to set at about forty five, not forty five,
but the upper forties, fifty to fifty five degrees somewhere
in that range. And unfortunately that greenhouse it may I
don't know, you have to tell me, it may get
too cold in there. You don't want them to freeze,
(31:42):
that would be the big thing. And you don't want
it to be too warm, because we really don't want
them to start growing again until we get into March
or so, which then your greenhouse could come in handy
because then you could repot those early, get them started early,
so when you go to put them outside, once the
weather breaks, you're ready to go. But otherwise they want
that dormant period. So wherever you wind up putting them away,
(32:07):
you know it's got to stay somewhere that upper forties
fifty to fifty five degrees, but no warmer or they'll
start to regrow again.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So kind of cut the tops off and just kind
of put them in there. I mean everything about gardening,
you know it. It was an experiment.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh yeah, yeah. The thing of it is you want
to get rid of the foliage. So the best thing
to do is leave them sit out there as long
as you can. Let Mother nature frost them and freeze
them a few times to kill the tops off. The
ground's not going to freeze. It's going to take a
long time before you get into the freezing grounds, so
let her take care of with the frost, kill the
tops off. Once the tops are pretty much brown, you
(32:43):
can cut those off. If they're in containers, you can
just move right inside. If not, you dig them up,
kind of clean them off a little bit and put
them in a container or a box and then set
them inside there. And again, just watch your temperatures because
once it starts to get above fifty five degrees consists,
those things are going to start to regrow, which is
okay because then that you get a jump start on
(33:05):
it next spring and have some nice ice plants by
the time, you know, the middle of May rolls around.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I was kind of planning on maybe just once you,
like you said, once they die, cut them out, cut them,
leave them in the pot, put them on the ground.
In the greenhouse because that's on a on some stone.
I figured that'd be the coolest place. Yeah, and uh,
like I said, I'm out nothing. If they die now,
they die. If they come back next year, hey, I'm
one step closer.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, they'll they'll come back, I get. My only concern
is if it stays warm in here, that they'll start
to regrow too early. Then you've got to make sure,
you know, you keep the temperatures warm. That would be
my my big concern is just staying too warm over
the winter time.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Okay, well we'll try it. Like I said, well I
got nothing to lose.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
All right, Mark, and let me know. Well, thanks Ron,
all right, good talking with you. And that's that's the
thing about those and I and one of my notes
here today is the frost versus freezes. You know, we've
got frost coming up. Jerry rose up and uh a Huntsburg,
Northeastern Ohio sent me a picture of his thermometer this
(34:05):
week and it was twenty nine where they're low. But
you know, we went to twenty nine, came right back
up again. But his point was season about over, and yeah,
that'll put it into it. But frosts and freezes are
two different things. And so when you have cannas and
dahlias and things like that in the ground that you
don't want to freeze, I get that. But you know again,
(34:27):
the frost all those are that's not freezing the ground.
All the frosts are doing is knocking the topsaw for
you there to get rid of all of the cannon
foliage and the dalia foliage and kalladiums and all of that.
Let mother nature do that for you. And then eventually
you're going to get in there and once the temperature
is really cool down and you'll cut those tops off,
You'll get them out of the ground, you'll clean them up,
(34:48):
you store them away in a cooler area fifty degrees
or so, bring them back out next spring and start
it all over again. So you got plenty of time.
Don't worry about freezing of the soil for those plants,
and let mother nature fraud out the tops for you.
And anytime right now, anything in my yard and garden
I'm not covering over at this stage in the game,
because it's time for most of that to get frosted out. Anyway,
(35:10):
we come back from the break, we've got just Tina
block with US coming up here on news radio six,
n WTVN
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