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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning everybody. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Ron Wilson and you are in the garden here
on news radio six ' ten WTVN eight two to
one w tv in eight hundred and six ten WTVN.
Jump on board talking about yarding and let's just kick
it right off as we always do with the Buggy
Joe Boggs report. That would be Joe Boggs assist a
professor commercial to goods chere Yeah, yes what author coffee
(00:26):
and for hum A website is b Y G L
dot O s U dot E Edu Ladies and gentlemen.
Mister commonsensical himself now after the last couple of sessions
with him called the spider Man Buggy Joe Boggs, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Sir, Right, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, my spider, my spider
sinces are tingling.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well you I tell you what, after the last two weeks,
you and I talking about spiders. That's all I've gotten, Ema,
I got spiders. I have this spider, I have that spider.
So you created an interest.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And yesterday I was given a talk up in the
Springfield area and there were some beautiful junipers and taxes
and you know where I'm heading with this and after
you and I, well, after you and I talking about well,
you know what's happening with the funnel web and sheet
web spiders, you know, the ones that cast their webbing,
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you know, over shrubs, to the point where sometimes you know,
the surface of the shrub looks more like webs than shrubs.
Yesterday that they were all over the place. It's just
like they had little signs to say, well, you and
Ron didn't look at us.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That's the way it always is, isn't it. When you
declare something, well, something comes along to change it changes
all that.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But it is interesting because it did spur, which I
think all your segments do talking about insects and disease
and things. But it did spur a lot of interest
because there is and spiders, because you know, there's a misconception.
It's just like snakes, you know. And we joked, I
don't like spiders. I don't like snakes, but I deal
with them because I know what good they are. But
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there's that misconception out there, and kids grow up right
off the bat learning about snakes are scared to death
of them. Spiders are scared to death of them. And really,
if you just understood them, you wouldn't be scared to
death of them.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, and they are. I mean when you get down
to the micro level, I mean, you know, you're really
looking at what small things do and how they make
a living. You know. I also posted an alert, you know,
describing how spiders eat, you know, how you know how
they function, and it is a bit creepy. I mean,
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well it is, but you know it's intriguing nature. It's nature.
What I get a kick out of is, you know
all the different movies over the years where where spiders
have been you know, been the focal point, including Spider Man,
by the way, but you know these other movies were
you know, there's more of a horrific bent to the movie.
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And there's one thing that I it didn't occur to
me to I was writing the alerts that you know,
I actually I have seen this behavior with giant spiders
in the movies, and that is that now, all spiders
don't function the same way, but they all have fangs
that we call chillissery. That's the pleural chilicra singular. So
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they have chillissery, two of these things, and they use
them to primarily right off the bat to inject neurotoxins
that paralyze the prey, which is a good thing regardless
of what kind of spider it is. If it's an
orb weaver that makes the giant you know they're very long,
well not always large, but makes the round webs, or
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if they're hunting spiders like our little jumping spiders, it's
a pretty good idea to keep your prey from struggling
too long, because you know the spider could get hurt.
You know, you got a grasshopper kicking around and you
know the spurs and the grasshopper could do damage to
the spider. So it's a good idea to dispatch them quickly.
And that's where the neurotoxins come in. Now, some spiders,
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when they inject the neurotoxin, they'll also sort of inject
and I say it that way because it doesn't come
right out at chillissery, a sort of inject what we
call necrotoxins. Now, necro means dead. So these are enzymes
that start breaking down the internal organs of the prey,
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which is almost exclusively in ohio insects or other arthropods. Yeah,
there are a few spiders like the fishing spiders. Their
name gives it away. That may go after small fish,
but by and large, most spiders go after insects. So
that's one way that they eat. You know. They they
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inject the neurotoxin. Then they inject this these enzymes, digestive
enzymes that start breaking down the prey other spiders. Well.
Also instead of just injecting into the exo skeleton, they
will start regurgitating the digestive enzymes out of their mouths,
which is kind of instructor.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And they coat, they coat, you know, let's say it's
a grasshopper. They coat the grasshopper and they use the
chillisrie to break up the exo skeleton. And and like
I said, I can't think of the movie, but there
was a movie not too long ago, giant spiders, I mean,
you know, big things. They had human beings in their
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web and and that's what they were doing. They were
spewing this, you know, this material all over the there.
You know the I'm sorry for laughing, it's horrible, but
you know, the the riders got.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Everybody and everybody wants that movie scared to death. And
you're laughing going.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Around, I know, I know it. Say oh, yeah, stood
up and said, hey, that's true. Actually boy, you know anyway,
so so that's you know, that does make spiders you know,
a bit scary in terms of of what they do.
But they eat a lot of plant pests, I mean
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in our you know, in our forests, in our landscapes.
You're exactly right. They contribute to keeping pests in check.
And of course that's the same thing as we just
mentioned about. You mentioned about snakes. You know, they're going
after buying large rodents, you know, rats and things that
we would just assume not having our homes and sou
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So they do, they do good. But the other misconception
is the whole thing about spider bites. Right, you know,
people think that that you know, they have this area
on their skin, and it's very often, you know, their hands,
because you know, that's where you might think of being
bitten by spiders. But also what happens with our hands.
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We're digging into soil and we get some bacteria in
a little cut that we didn't even see and that
area becomes slightly infected. Well, it's amazing. And Ron, like
I said, there was a gentleman out in California and
we've talked about it before, and I've been meaning to
look up his name, and I keep forgetting to. But
if you go online, for example, you'll come across his
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research in relation to recluse spiders. I believe his name
is Vetters, but I could have that wrong. But nonetheless,
he worked with the medical community across the United States
actually did a fantastic job to show that these areas
that got blamed for years as being spider bites were
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in fact bacterial infections, and they do apparently kind of
present similarly. But at the end of the day, you know,
spiders are being blamed for something that they weren't doing.
And when you think about it, you know it makes
it far more likely if you're digging in the soil
to have gotten a soul born bacterium and you're cut,
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then it would be a spider jumped in on your
hand and bit it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I can just see I can just see the far
I'm just thinking right now, the far side cartoon with
the spiders protesting like a striking of banners. Don't blame us,
don't blame right.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, they have these little fly helicopters, you know, with
a banner behind them. Wait a second, I know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But you're today we will produce that cartoon.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Will you have a whole list of cartoons? Oh my gosh,
they're working on.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Gary Larson the sketches out for us, which.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Which we can contemplate during I believe the upcoming break
is that.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Thank you so much, Joe for that introduction. Going into
a break. Let's take what break? What do you say?
And we'll come back and talk more with Buggy Joe
Boggs here on news radio six to ten w TV
in time for part two with the Buggy Joe Box
Report here on news radio six to ten WTV in
don't forget. Their website is byg L dot OSU dot
e edu. Some great postings this week I want you
(09:18):
to go check out. First of all, we're talking about spiders.
Joe put together a great posting. This is really great information.
It's called Spider Senses Are Tingling, and you learn about
pretty much all the spiders that you're going to see
out there in your own backyard. Lots of great pictures
of which Joe, I was not familiar with. The trash
line spider and I have seen I have seen that
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stuff hanging like.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That it is and I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That was a spider, you know, yeah, with the spider
kind of it looks like it looks like, you know,
what's in their web? Yeah, yeah, what's interesting about these?
So so just for listeners, again, you can read all
about this if you just Google, if you just do
a search with b y g L, the bucka yard
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and garden line will come up, and you can see
these postings. And you know, once you get onto these
different things, the trash line spider, for example, is very
very common. I've concluded it's probably one of our more
common orb weavers. They make a very distinct round web.
That's why they're called orb weavers. But what they do is,
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once they finished with a victim, you know, as we
described earlier how they how spiders feed, they will wrap that,
you know, wrap the leftovers in silk web, silk webbing,
and then they attached the detritis and that's what we
call that of course, in a string in the web.
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So you'll see the web and then you'll see the
you know, this like a line of very dense webbing.
If you look closely, you'll see that it's just broken
up part of insects and things like that, and and
then the spider hangs in the center of the web,
at the base of this or in the center depending
on the you know, where this structure exists, and the
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spiders are perfectly camouflage to blend in with what we
call a detritus stabilimentum.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That up.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I didn't make it up. It's it's actually in the
alert so you can see.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I saw it, but you made it up. That's
you're alert.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So these big garden spiders, for example, and we got
some pictures after we declared we weren't seeing them, which
I love that, you know. It's it's fantastic that we
declare something and all of a sudden, you know, listeners
start sitting in and say, wait a second, you're just
not getting outside, you know. So so we got we
got a beautiful picture of a big garden spider, yellow
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garden spider. These or these big spiders that again make
a big round, orb shaped web, and they do the
same thing. They make a zigzag pattern in their stabelomentum.
That's what is called what that structure is called very
dense webbing, and it leads to another common name that
(12:15):
I grew up with. We call them zigzag spiders because
it looked like a zig zag pattern. But now what's
really interesting with that spider or those spiders we have
two different species, is that if you used and I
mentioned this last week, if you use if you took
a picture using a camera or film way back, when
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it's sensitive to ultraviolet light, the spider disappears, the web disappears,
and the stabellamentum looks like a giant neon eat here
sign and that attracts insects. The insects believe they're coming
to a flower, and of course then they're coming to
their doom as we know. So the developmentum on the
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garden spiders serves a little different function on the well. Actually,
now let me go back and say, I don't think
that the trash line spiders have never come across research
where they use UV light to you know, to highlight
this developmentum. But definitely, if the spider has that in
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the web, research has shown they catch a lot more,
primarily things like little tiny flies like fruit flies for example.
That's one of their favorite meals because they're very small spiders.
So if they have this development then they capture a
lot more than if they don't have it. So it
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most likely, you know, serves the same function. It attracts
insects into the web, which you know. I got to say,
when you read about these things, you learn about them,
and then you get outside and look closely, it really
does kind of give you a whole different sense of
what's going on in nature, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It does, I mean it really does. That's why I
say you need to read these and learn more about it.
And when you go out there there, you're going to say, hey,
I just read about I like that trash line spider.
I've seen that a bazillion times. I never realized that's
what that was until I saw that. So and again
you folks can go check it out. As a matter of fact,
you also posted this week the Home Invaders, which I'm
(14:20):
sure I still talk about yet this month, and the
other one I liked one which is great was the
Myths and Facts of the Africanized Honeybee.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh that was a.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Great.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah. Serrenga Masaline and the Master Gala boy I really
missed his name up. He can call me something different
when he sees me again. Anyway. He is our entomologist
for our OSU Plant Past Diagnostic Clinic and Seringa does
a fantastic job. He's very dedicated, really good with sorting
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out some of the these things, and that came from
some pictures that were well, some were sent to me
and others, and we kind of mentioned this a little
bit last week that showed European honeybees that looked a
bit different. And that's something that we all need to
be aware of. I mean, even though they're all the
same species, there are different there are different varieties, there
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are different types, and so they can look a little different. Well,
these kind of looked different enough till one of the
people who observed them thought that maybe you know, it's
it's not quite what we're used to and they were told, well,
those are Africanized bees, which of course is not true.
We don't have those in Ohio. But he did a
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wonderful job, along with Reed Johnson and CAYLEB. Perry, two
other fantastic entomologists. I'm being a little biased because they're
with Ohio State University Entomology, right, So they did a
really nice job of detailing you know, what going on,
and of course that is you know, that's to me
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the importance of why we post these legal alerts. We
try to do them, you know, in a timely way.
So what's happening is happening right now. Like the box
sellar bugs are gathering on the sides of trees. They
do this during cold temperatures and then when it warms up,
which is going to happen this weekend, and that in
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this coming week, they then start going to places where
they want to spend the winter. So I wanted to
get that alert posted because no doubt, you know, we'll
start seeing a lot more. We're already seeing some. I mean,
we're getting reports, but I mean the real I said that,
you know, we were getting a trickle. It could become
(16:47):
a flood when temperatures warm up. And of course it's
not just box sellar bugs, you know, things like brown
marmorading stink bugs and others.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And you'll find all that in that and I'm sure
we'll talk about it in the future because we have
to go. Time for another break. Buggy Joe Buggs always
a pleasure. And by the way, Ella, our producer, wants
to she wants to host your segment on the next show.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Is that all right?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Oh, that'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
She just wants me to be quiet and sit back,
and she said, see how a pro really handles an
interview with Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Now, wait a second, a pro and that's implying that
I'm a pro. Wait a minute. This has gone a
very strange direction here.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So we'll we'll Gorinna let Ella handle the Buggy Joe
Boggs report the next time around.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I'll be quiet too. No, wait, is that how that works?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
No, that's not the way it works. Hey, no Bucks
game today, So I know you're going to relax and
work in the yard and garden and they just take
it easy. So have a great, great weekend.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, but we still need to say go bugs right,
I mean the whole season. That's right. You takes care on.
Have a great week all.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right, Buggy Joe Boggs. OSU extension again byg L dot
OSU dot e d U quick break We come back.
Phone lines are open for you at eight two to
one WTVN. Coming at the top of the hour. We're
gonna talk with the arbor doc Ron Roethlis. You know,
we had all the rain that came through thanks to Helena.
Different parts of the state get different amounts. Obviously, we
were all in a pretty serious drought at that time.
(18:16):
Where are we now? Are you curious? Are we out
of it? There's a drop being broken and we're good
to go. We're gonna find out at the top of
the hour. But in between, it's you and me talking
yarding here on news radio six to ten WTVN. There
we are, Yes, we're back here on news radio six
y ten WTVN. Let's go right to the gardening phone lines.
Not even hesitate, Bob, good morning, Hey Ron.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Missed you last week. So I was wondering another long question.
We have that big rain a couple of weeks ago. Really,
first things up, although I have so many dry spots,
you know, just straw will come back. I'm hoping to
air rates coming weak. I'm going to have somebody do
it as well as over seed. And was wondering any
(19:06):
advice lunch currently sesque and rye perennials. I think all
the bluegrass died off, so I was thinking of maybe
just going with all tall sesque and then the second part, uh,
you know what type of seed. But second part, uh,
there's so many spots. I'm not quite sure I'm going
to be able to do any sort of watering. You know,
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it's almost kind of like, uh, you know, early winter,
you know, just hoping, you know, it lies dormant and
then the uh, the snow comes in.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Water.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Is there so any advice on just doing you know,
the aerration overseeding and or should I just wait?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, you know, I think that the obviously moisture is
going to be the key, and they're not going to
be able to core aer rate effectively if you don't
have moisture in the soil. So they may have you
try to sit if we don't get any showers, and
we're going to have our meteorologist on at the top
of the hour find out what's coming up in the future.
But if you don't have any moisture in the ground,
they're not going to be able to do the core
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aerating very well because they've got to go down and
pull those those plugs out, and you've got to have
good moisture in the ground. So that may be determined,
you know, the lack of moisture may determine whether or
not they're going to do that as far as the
seeding goes. We're on that cusp right now, you know,
and you're really rolling the dice at this stage because
we're past the prime time obviously we're looking ahead. We
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still have some pretty warm temperatures over the next seven
to ten days. You know, you put seed down right now,
put the moisture to it. The way the temperatures are looking,
there's a real good chance you could get perennial rise
and tough scues to germinate and start to grow within
the next ten days of two weeks the way I'm
looking at it right now, provided they have good moisture.
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The problem you get into is if that's great, then
it comes up. But then what happens at four weeks
from now everything turns into a freeze, you know, the
whole nine yards. Then you kind of lose all of that. So,
you know, or you could anyway, so hopefully I think
at this stage in the game, you hope that it
doesn't come up, you know, because like I said, you
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are rolling the dice, so I look at it now
at this stage that you know, clean it up, getting
the debris out of there if you can cor raate,
would be great. And in the seating wise, just to
be sure, if you don't want to take a chance,
you'll wait until a little bit later on before you
put that seed down so that it truly becomes dormant seating.
And then as far as the seed that I would use,
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you know you're going to continue to see this with
the bluegrass, I would eventually try to work in the
turf type tall fescues. I'm still a firm believer in those.
Even some of those shut down obviously when you get
into a serious draft, but it's still one of the
toughest easiest ones to take care of, a lot more
lower maintenance than bluegrass would be. I like the turf,
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and I would if you're going to do it, make
sure you seed it into the entire lawn, not just
in those bear spots. But I still like the turf
type tall fescue, and I like a blend of three
or four or five of those when you go to
put those down.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Okay, sounds great, Thank you?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
All right, all right, Bob, good luck with everything. Another break.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We come back, will continue right on here in the
garden with Ron Wilson on news radio six to ten
WTVN talking to you, yaradning here on news radio six
ten and w tv And you know the kicker with
this grass eating thing right now is it's always we're
on that cusp and think about this. You know, we're
less than two weeks away from the first of November,
and who knows what November is gonna bring. I mean,
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that's why I say, you know, you roll the dice
at this stage. It just depends on what Mother Nature
throws at us at that point. In construction jobs, whether
they're finishing up new homes or swales or ditches or whatever,
they're gonna that's part of the deal. They're going to
have to put seed down. They're gonna straw it, which
I hate to use straw, but they're gonna straw it
or hydro seed it, something like that. But it's part
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of the deal. You got to do it. Can't just
leave that soil exposed going into the fall winter season.
And you know, you just take your chances and keep
your fingers crossing hole it works out. But if you
can hold off, you might be better off not taking
the chance and get everything prepped, core air rate, feed
the lawn that's there, get all the debris out of
the way, and then do more of a dormant seating
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more toward Thanksgiving December, or do like I do and
do it mid February or so and then be ready
for it to come up in the springtime versus right now.
That is an option for you. Jeff, got about a
minute and a half to go.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah, I planted drats about eight days ago and.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It hasn't sprouded up yet.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
And should I just hope for dormant seating or should
I try to keep it wet? I know the weather's
supposed to be a little bit nicer for about the
next ten days.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I'd say, you know, I'd say at this stage it
takes about you know, for what kind of grass was
it with fescue rise?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
I don't know hat cycle bought it.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
The fescusing rise will come up usually within ten days
or so, two weeks, and we've got the temperatures to
do that, so you know, it won't take very long.
You'll see them start to pop up. You've had the
moisture there, you know, at this stage and the game.
I did some seeding last week. I had some bare areas.
We threw some seed down. I'm gonna stick with it,
try to get it up and get it going. I'm
gonna roll the dice, so I'm gonna stick with it,
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So I probably would stick with it. Go from there,
and you know, if if by chance we get a freeze,
frost isn't gonna hurt it. I mean, you can always
hose it off a little bit. If you water, that
helps to protect it a little bit. You know, even
if you if the seed hasn't started to come up yet.
These sites I was talking about with construction, when they
put that straw or hydro seed or use that type
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of insulation over the top that does hold heat into
the around the seed, and sometimes you can get it
to germinate even quicker because they've got the heat around that.
So you know, you look at that too.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, this is a new construction and we are it's
a pretty big yard. So we did it in sections,
and this is our third section. The other up came
up pretty quick, but we didn't have a frost during
that time.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So yeah, and again it's just the cooler temperatures days
are getting shorter. It's gonna take you a little bit
longer for it to come up. But I'd stick with it.
I'd stick with it and see what we can. I'd
roll the dice. I'd stay with it.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Yeah, And one little quick quick question the other our
second plant, we plant, our part we plant.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It has been up for quite a bit. Now, did
I mow that before winter?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
If you get to the point, absolutely, that helps to
harden it off. So as soon as you get to
that point where you're gonna, you know, you can get
out there and mow it at that three to three
and a half inch height. Absolutely, if you get a
couple of moings would be absolutely perfect. Appreciate the call.
And that's a great, great question as well, yet, because
that does help to harden that thing off. All Right,
we're gonna we're gonna take a break and we come back.
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I've got Ron Rothi's gonna join us, our hobby meteorologists.
We're gonna talk about you know, we had the drought,
then we had the rain. Now where are we at
this stage and what do we see to the future,
because we don't want to dry fall with our plants,
and if we need water, well, and let us know
it's all happening here on news radio six ' ten
WTVN
Good morning everybody. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Ron Wilson and you are in the garden here
on news radio six ' ten WTVN eight two to
one w tv in eight hundred and six ten WTVN.
Jump on board talking about yarding and let's just kick
it right off as we always do with the Buggy
Joe Boggs report. That would be Joe Boggs assist a
professor commercial to goods chere Yeah, yes what author coffee
(00:26):
and for hum A website is b Y G L
dot O s U dot E Edu Ladies and gentlemen.
Mister commonsensical himself now after the last couple of sessions
with him called the spider Man Buggy Joe Boggs, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Sir, Right, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, my spider, my spider
sinces are tingling.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well you I tell you what, after the last two weeks,
you and I talking about spiders. That's all I've gotten, Ema,
I got spiders. I have this spider, I have that spider.
So you created an interest.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And yesterday I was given a talk up in the
Springfield area and there were some beautiful junipers and taxes
and you know where I'm heading with this and after
you and I, well, after you and I talking about well,
you know what's happening with the funnel web and sheet
web spiders, you know, the ones that cast their webbing,
(01:19):
you know, over shrubs, to the point where sometimes you know,
the surface of the shrub looks more like webs than shrubs.
Yesterday that they were all over the place. It's just
like they had little signs to say, well, you and
Ron didn't look at us.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That's the way it always is, isn't it. When you
declare something, well, something comes along to change it changes
all that.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But it is interesting because it did spur, which I
think all your segments do talking about insects and disease
and things. But it did spur a lot of interest
because there is and spiders, because you know, there's a misconception.
It's just like snakes, you know. And we joked, I
don't like spiders. I don't like snakes, but I deal
with them because I know what good they are. But
(02:10):
there's that misconception out there, and kids grow up right
off the bat learning about snakes are scared to death
of them. Spiders are scared to death of them. And really,
if you just understood them, you wouldn't be scared to
death of them.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, and they are. I mean when you get down
to the micro level, I mean, you know, you're really
looking at what small things do and how they make
a living. You know. I also posted an alert, you know,
describing how spiders eat, you know, how you know how
they function, and it is a bit creepy. I mean,
(02:47):
well it is, but you know it's intriguing nature. It's nature.
What I get a kick out of is, you know
all the different movies over the years where where spiders
have been you know, been the focal point, including Spider Man,
by the way, but you know these other movies were
you know, there's more of a horrific bent to the movie.
(03:09):
And there's one thing that I it didn't occur to
me to I was writing the alerts that you know,
I actually I have seen this behavior with giant spiders
in the movies, and that is that now, all spiders
don't function the same way, but they all have fangs
that we call chillissery. That's the pleural chilicra singular. So
(03:32):
they have chillissery, two of these things, and they use
them to primarily right off the bat to inject neurotoxins
that paralyze the prey, which is a good thing regardless
of what kind of spider it is. If it's an
orb weaver that makes the giant you know they're very long,
well not always large, but makes the round webs, or
(03:55):
if they're hunting spiders like our little jumping spiders, it's
a pretty good idea to keep your prey from struggling
too long, because you know the spider could get hurt.
You know, you got a grasshopper kicking around and you
know the spurs and the grasshopper could do damage to
the spider. So it's a good idea to dispatch them quickly.
And that's where the neurotoxins come in. Now, some spiders,
(04:19):
when they inject the neurotoxin, they'll also sort of inject
and I say it that way because it doesn't come
right out at chillissery, a sort of inject what we
call necrotoxins. Now, necro means dead. So these are enzymes
that start breaking down the internal organs of the prey,
(04:40):
which is almost exclusively in ohio insects or other arthropods. Yeah,
there are a few spiders like the fishing spiders. Their
name gives it away. That may go after small fish,
but by and large, most spiders go after insects. So
that's one way that they eat. You know. They they
(05:00):
inject the neurotoxin. Then they inject this these enzymes, digestive
enzymes that start breaking down the prey other spiders. Well.
Also instead of just injecting into the exo skeleton, they
will start regurgitating the digestive enzymes out of their mouths,
which is kind of instructor.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And they coat, they coat, you know, let's say it's
a grasshopper. They coat the grasshopper and they use the
chillisrie to break up the exo skeleton. And and like
I said, I can't think of the movie, but there
was a movie not too long ago, giant spiders, I mean,
you know, big things. They had human beings in their
(05:44):
web and and that's what they were doing. They were
spewing this, you know, this material all over the there.
You know the I'm sorry for laughing, it's horrible, but
you know, the the riders got.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Everybody and everybody wants that movie scared to death. And
you're laughing going.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Around, I know, I know it. Say oh, yeah, stood
up and said, hey, that's true. Actually boy, you know anyway,
so so that's you know, that does make spiders you know,
a bit scary in terms of of what they do.
But they eat a lot of plant pests, I mean
(06:25):
in our you know, in our forests, in our landscapes.
You're exactly right. They contribute to keeping pests in check.
And of course that's the same thing as we just
mentioned about. You mentioned about snakes. You know, they're going
after buying large rodents, you know, rats and things that
we would just assume not having our homes and sou
(06:48):
So they do, they do good. But the other misconception
is the whole thing about spider bites. Right, you know,
people think that that you know, they have this area
on their skin, and it's very often, you know, their hands,
because you know, that's where you might think of being
bitten by spiders. But also what happens with our hands.
(07:10):
We're digging into soil and we get some bacteria in
a little cut that we didn't even see and that
area becomes slightly infected. Well, it's amazing. And Ron, like
I said, there was a gentleman out in California and
we've talked about it before, and I've been meaning to
look up his name, and I keep forgetting to. But
if you go online, for example, you'll come across his
(07:32):
research in relation to recluse spiders. I believe his name
is Vetters, but I could have that wrong. But nonetheless,
he worked with the medical community across the United States
actually did a fantastic job to show that these areas
that got blamed for years as being spider bites were
(07:54):
in fact bacterial infections, and they do apparently kind of
present similarly. But at the end of the day, you know,
spiders are being blamed for something that they weren't doing.
And when you think about it, you know it makes
it far more likely if you're digging in the soil
to have gotten a soul born bacterium and you're cut,
(08:15):
then it would be a spider jumped in on your
hand and bit it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I can just see I can just see the far
I'm just thinking right now, the far side cartoon with
the spiders protesting like a striking of banners. Don't blame us,
don't blame right.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, they have these little fly helicopters, you know, with
a banner behind them. Wait a second, I know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But you're today we will produce that cartoon.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Will you have a whole list of cartoons? Oh my gosh,
they're working on.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Gary Larson the sketches out for us, which.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Which we can contemplate during I believe the upcoming break
is that.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Thank you so much, Joe for that introduction. Going into
a break. Let's take what break? What do you say?
And we'll come back and talk more with Buggy Joe
Boggs here on news radio six to ten w TV
in time for part two with the Buggy Joe Box
Report here on news radio six to ten WTV in
don't forget. Their website is byg L dot OSU dot
e edu. Some great postings this week I want you
(09:18):
to go check out. First of all, we're talking about spiders.
Joe put together a great posting. This is really great information.
It's called Spider Senses Are Tingling, and you learn about
pretty much all the spiders that you're going to see
out there in your own backyard. Lots of great pictures
of which Joe, I was not familiar with. The trash
line spider and I have seen I have seen that
(09:40):
stuff hanging like.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That it is and I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That was a spider, you know, yeah, with the spider
kind of it looks like it looks like, you know,
what's in their web? Yeah, yeah, what's interesting about these?
So so just for listeners, again, you can read all
about this if you just Google, if you just do
a search with b y g L, the bucka yard
(10:06):
and garden line will come up, and you can see
these postings. And you know, once you get onto these
different things, the trash line spider, for example, is very
very common. I've concluded it's probably one of our more
common orb weavers. They make a very distinct round web.
That's why they're called orb weavers. But what they do is,
(10:29):
once they finished with a victim, you know, as we
described earlier how they how spiders feed, they will wrap that,
you know, wrap the leftovers in silk web, silk webbing,
and then they attached the detritis and that's what we
call that of course, in a string in the web.
(10:50):
So you'll see the web and then you'll see the
you know, this like a line of very dense webbing.
If you look closely, you'll see that it's just broken
up part of insects and things like that, and and
then the spider hangs in the center of the web,
at the base of this or in the center depending
on the you know, where this structure exists, and the
(11:13):
spiders are perfectly camouflage to blend in with what we
call a detritus stabilimentum.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That up.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I didn't make it up. It's it's actually in the
alert so you can see.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I saw it, but you made it up. That's
you're alert.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So these big garden spiders, for example, and we got
some pictures after we declared we weren't seeing them, which
I love that, you know. It's it's fantastic that we
declare something and all of a sudden, you know, listeners
start sitting in and say, wait a second, you're just
not getting outside, you know. So so we got we
got a beautiful picture of a big garden spider, yellow
(11:54):
garden spider. These or these big spiders that again make
a big round, orb shaped web, and they do the
same thing. They make a zigzag pattern in their stabelomentum.
That's what is called what that structure is called very
dense webbing, and it leads to another common name that
(12:15):
I grew up with. We call them zigzag spiders because
it looked like a zig zag pattern. But now what's
really interesting with that spider or those spiders we have
two different species, is that if you used and I
mentioned this last week, if you use if you took
a picture using a camera or film way back, when
(12:35):
it's sensitive to ultraviolet light, the spider disappears, the web disappears,
and the stabellamentum looks like a giant neon eat here
sign and that attracts insects. The insects believe they're coming
to a flower, and of course then they're coming to
their doom as we know. So the developmentum on the
(12:58):
garden spiders serves a little different function on the well. Actually,
now let me go back and say, I don't think
that the trash line spiders have never come across research
where they use UV light to you know, to highlight
this developmentum. But definitely, if the spider has that in
(13:20):
the web, research has shown they catch a lot more,
primarily things like little tiny flies like fruit flies for example.
That's one of their favorite meals because they're very small spiders.
So if they have this development then they capture a
lot more than if they don't have it. So it
(13:41):
most likely, you know, serves the same function. It attracts
insects into the web, which you know. I got to say,
when you read about these things, you learn about them,
and then you get outside and look closely, it really
does kind of give you a whole different sense of
what's going on in nature, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It does, I mean it really does. That's why I
say you need to read these and learn more about it.
And when you go out there there, you're going to say, hey,
I just read about I like that trash line spider.
I've seen that a bazillion times. I never realized that's
what that was until I saw that. So and again
you folks can go check it out. As a matter of fact,
you also posted this week the Home Invaders, which I'm
(14:20):
sure I still talk about yet this month, and the
other one I liked one which is great was the
Myths and Facts of the Africanized Honeybee.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh that was a.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Great.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah. Serrenga Masaline and the Master Gala boy I really
missed his name up. He can call me something different
when he sees me again. Anyway. He is our entomologist
for our OSU Plant Past Diagnostic Clinic and Seringa does
a fantastic job. He's very dedicated, really good with sorting
(14:59):
out some of the these things, and that came from
some pictures that were well, some were sent to me
and others, and we kind of mentioned this a little
bit last week that showed European honeybees that looked a
bit different. And that's something that we all need to
be aware of. I mean, even though they're all the
same species, there are different there are different varieties, there
(15:22):
are different types, and so they can look a little different. Well,
these kind of looked different enough till one of the
people who observed them thought that maybe you know, it's
it's not quite what we're used to and they were told, well,
those are Africanized bees, which of course is not true.
We don't have those in Ohio. But he did a
(15:44):
wonderful job, along with Reed Johnson and CAYLEB. Perry, two
other fantastic entomologists. I'm being a little biased because they're
with Ohio State University Entomology, right, So they did a
really nice job of detailing you know, what going on,
and of course that is you know, that's to me
(16:05):
the importance of why we post these legal alerts. We
try to do them, you know, in a timely way.
So what's happening is happening right now. Like the box
sellar bugs are gathering on the sides of trees. They
do this during cold temperatures and then when it warms up,
which is going to happen this weekend, and that in
(16:26):
this coming week, they then start going to places where
they want to spend the winter. So I wanted to
get that alert posted because no doubt, you know, we'll
start seeing a lot more. We're already seeing some. I mean,
we're getting reports, but I mean the real I said that,
you know, we were getting a trickle. It could become
(16:47):
a flood when temperatures warm up. And of course it's
not just box sellar bugs, you know, things like brown
marmorading stink bugs and others.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And you'll find all that in that and I'm sure
we'll talk about it in the future because we have
to go. Time for another break. Buggy Joe Buggs always
a pleasure. And by the way, Ella, our producer, wants
to she wants to host your segment on the next show.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Is that all right?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Oh, that'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
She just wants me to be quiet and sit back,
and she said, see how a pro really handles an
interview with Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Now, wait a second, a pro and that's implying that
I'm a pro. Wait a minute. This has gone a
very strange direction here.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So we'll we'll Gorinna let Ella handle the Buggy Joe
Boggs report the next time around.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I'll be quiet too. No, wait, is that how that works?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
No, that's not the way it works. Hey, no Bucks
game today, So I know you're going to relax and
work in the yard and garden and they just take
it easy. So have a great, great weekend.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, but we still need to say go bugs right,
I mean the whole season. That's right. You takes care on.
Have a great week all.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right, Buggy Joe Boggs. OSU extension again byg L dot
OSU dot e d U quick break We come back.
Phone lines are open for you at eight two to
one WTVN. Coming at the top of the hour. We're
gonna talk with the arbor doc Ron Roethlis. You know,
we had all the rain that came through thanks to Helena.
Different parts of the state get different amounts. Obviously, we
were all in a pretty serious drought at that time.
(18:16):
Where are we now? Are you curious? Are we out
of it? There's a drop being broken and we're good
to go. We're gonna find out at the top of
the hour. But in between, it's you and me talking
yarding here on news radio six to ten WTVN. There
we are, Yes, we're back here on news radio six
y ten WTVN. Let's go right to the gardening phone lines.
Not even hesitate, Bob, good morning, Hey Ron.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Missed you last week. So I was wondering another long question.
We have that big rain a couple of weeks ago. Really,
first things up, although I have so many dry spots,
you know, just straw will come back. I'm hoping to
air rates coming weak. I'm going to have somebody do
it as well as over seed. And was wondering any
(19:06):
advice lunch currently sesque and rye perennials. I think all
the bluegrass died off, so I was thinking of maybe
just going with all tall sesque and then the second part, uh,
you know what type of seed. But second part, uh,
there's so many spots. I'm not quite sure I'm going
to be able to do any sort of watering. You know,
(19:26):
it's almost kind of like, uh, you know, early winter,
you know, just hoping, you know, it lies dormant and
then the uh, the snow comes in.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Water.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Is there so any advice on just doing you know,
the aerration overseeding and or should I just wait?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, you know, I think that the obviously moisture is
going to be the key, and they're not going to
be able to core aer rate effectively if you don't
have moisture in the soil. So they may have you
try to sit if we don't get any showers, and
we're going to have our meteorologist on at the top
of the hour find out what's coming up in the future.
But if you don't have any moisture in the ground,
they're not going to be able to do the core
(20:03):
aerating very well because they've got to go down and
pull those those plugs out, and you've got to have
good moisture in the ground. So that may be determined,
you know, the lack of moisture may determine whether or
not they're going to do that as far as the
seeding goes. We're on that cusp right now, you know,
and you're really rolling the dice at this stage because
we're past the prime time obviously we're looking ahead. We
(20:25):
still have some pretty warm temperatures over the next seven
to ten days. You know, you put seed down right now,
put the moisture to it. The way the temperatures are looking,
there's a real good chance you could get perennial rise
and tough scues to germinate and start to grow within
the next ten days of two weeks the way I'm
looking at it right now, provided they have good moisture.
(20:46):
The problem you get into is if that's great, then
it comes up. But then what happens at four weeks
from now everything turns into a freeze, you know, the
whole nine yards. Then you kind of lose all of that. So,
you know, or you could anyway, so hopefully I think
at this stage in the game, you hope that it
doesn't come up, you know, because like I said, you
(21:07):
are rolling the dice, so I look at it now
at this stage that you know, clean it up, getting
the debris out of there if you can cor raate,
would be great. And in the seating wise, just to
be sure, if you don't want to take a chance,
you'll wait until a little bit later on before you
put that seed down so that it truly becomes dormant seating.
And then as far as the seed that I would use,
(21:29):
you know you're going to continue to see this with
the bluegrass, I would eventually try to work in the
turf type tall fescues. I'm still a firm believer in those.
Even some of those shut down obviously when you get
into a serious draft, but it's still one of the
toughest easiest ones to take care of, a lot more
lower maintenance than bluegrass would be. I like the turf,
(21:50):
and I would if you're going to do it, make
sure you seed it into the entire lawn, not just
in those bear spots. But I still like the turf
type tall fescue, and I like a blend of three
or four or five of those when you go to
put those down.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Okay, sounds great, Thank you?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
All right, all right, Bob, good luck with everything. Another break.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We come back, will continue right on here in the
garden with Ron Wilson on news radio six to ten
WTVN talking to you, yaradning here on news radio six
ten and w tv And you know the kicker with
this grass eating thing right now is it's always we're
on that cusp and think about this. You know, we're
less than two weeks away from the first of November,
and who knows what November is gonna bring. I mean,
(22:30):
that's why I say, you know, you roll the dice
at this stage. It just depends on what Mother Nature
throws at us at that point. In construction jobs, whether
they're finishing up new homes or swales or ditches or whatever,
they're gonna that's part of the deal. They're going to
have to put seed down. They're gonna straw it, which
I hate to use straw, but they're gonna straw it
or hydro seed it, something like that. But it's part
(22:51):
of the deal. You got to do it. Can't just
leave that soil exposed going into the fall winter season.
And you know, you just take your chances and keep
your fingers crossing hole it works out. But if you
can hold off, you might be better off not taking
the chance and get everything prepped, core air rate, feed
the lawn that's there, get all the debris out of
the way, and then do more of a dormant seating
(23:13):
more toward Thanksgiving December, or do like I do and
do it mid February or so and then be ready
for it to come up in the springtime versus right now.
That is an option for you. Jeff, got about a
minute and a half to go.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah, I planted drats about eight days ago and.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It hasn't sprouded up yet.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
And should I just hope for dormant seating or should
I try to keep it wet? I know the weather's
supposed to be a little bit nicer for about the
next ten days.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I'd say, you know, I'd say at this stage it
takes about you know, for what kind of grass was
it with fescue rise?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
I don't know hat cycle bought it.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
The fescusing rise will come up usually within ten days
or so, two weeks, and we've got the temperatures to
do that, so you know, it won't take very long.
You'll see them start to pop up. You've had the
moisture there, you know, at this stage and the game.
I did some seeding last week. I had some bare areas.
We threw some seed down. I'm gonna stick with it,
try to get it up and get it going. I'm
gonna roll the dice, so I'm gonna stick with it,
(24:18):
So I probably would stick with it. Go from there,
and you know, if if by chance we get a freeze,
frost isn't gonna hurt it. I mean, you can always
hose it off a little bit. If you water, that
helps to protect it a little bit. You know, even
if you if the seed hasn't started to come up yet.
These sites I was talking about with construction, when they
put that straw or hydro seed or use that type
(24:39):
of insulation over the top that does hold heat into
the around the seed, and sometimes you can get it
to germinate even quicker because they've got the heat around that.
So you know, you look at that too.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, this is a new construction and we are it's
a pretty big yard. So we did it in sections,
and this is our third section. The other up came
up pretty quick, but we didn't have a frost during
that time.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So yeah, and again it's just the cooler temperatures days
are getting shorter. It's gonna take you a little bit
longer for it to come up. But I'd stick with it.
I'd stick with it and see what we can. I'd
roll the dice. I'd stay with it.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Yeah, And one little quick quick question the other our
second plant, we plant, our part we plant.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It has been up for quite a bit. Now, did
I mow that before winter?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
If you get to the point, absolutely, that helps to
harden it off. So as soon as you get to
that point where you're gonna, you know, you can get
out there and mow it at that three to three
and a half inch height. Absolutely, if you get a
couple of moings would be absolutely perfect. Appreciate the call.
And that's a great, great question as well, yet, because
that does help to harden that thing off. All Right,
we're gonna we're gonna take a break and we come back.
(25:46):
I've got Ron Rothi's gonna join us, our hobby meteorologists.
We're gonna talk about you know, we had the drought,
then we had the rain. Now where are we at
this stage and what do we see to the future,
because we don't want to dry fall with our plants,
and if we need water, well, and let us know
it's all happening here on news radio six ' ten
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