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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson, and you
are in the garden here on news radio six' TEN
wtv in talking about yardening and of course always talking
about the bees and the wild bees and the honey,
bees and the pollinators and. All of, course this week
happens to Be Pollinator, week trying to bring awareness of
course to pollinators and all the things that we can

(00:22):
do in our yards and gardeners to turn them into
bed and breakfast for those pollinators and the containers and
all of a Sudch, ANYWAY i got, excited And i'm
very excited right now because one of our past guests
is back with us this. Morning if you've probably gotten this.
Book if you, haven't you. Should It's The bees In Your.

(00:43):
Backyard she co wrote this With Joe, wilson and it's,
PROBABLY i think one of the best books for reference
to find out what those wild bees are in your.
Backyard as a matter of, Fact Joe boggs AND i
talking earlier in the, Show joe said his is all,
eared you, know dog eared and things where he uses
it for referencing as well when he's taking pictures of

(01:05):
all the insects out there and in honor of being
A Pollinator Awareness. Week guess what she is touring through
the state Of ohio to tell us all about these wild.
Bees and who is she you, Ask she is Doctor
Olivia carrill and she is with us this. Morning good,
Morning good, Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Ron nice to talk to.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
You, hey good to have you on the show and
have you back on with. Us words. Out you're in
the state Of. Ohio where AM i right?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Now i'm In. Cleveland i'm going to see the whole
state over the course of.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
The next, Week so you're going to come right on
through from the top to the. Bottom AND i think
it's'd be pretty. Cool and of course you are kind
of helping With Pollinator week as. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
YEAH i Love Pollinator. WEEK i love and just to
be fair, there of course there are many pollinators beyond the,
bees but one of the work courses in the pollinator,
world and SO i love taking the opportunity to come
out here To ohio where there's so much enthusiasm for
our pollinators and talk them up and share WHAT i
know about them for a little.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Bit, Well i'll tell you. WHAT i have recommended your
book to so many, people and it was Funny Joe
Box Moshue extension are. Entomologist he, laughed and he, said
you know, What he's seen you several times as some
of your, classes and he, said my book of hers
is all, eared dog eared and all torn up FROM
i use it so, often and it's. True it's such
a great. Book and, YOU i think what's interesting, is

(02:24):
as we talked when we first had you on the,
show this is just a slight representation of the thousands
of these wild bees that are out there in The
United states And. Canada.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, man there's like four thousand species and. Counting we're
still finding new ones all the time Across North. America
ohio has what five hundred and fifty something like that
different species just in this one state. Alone it's kind of.
Incredible and they come in all different colors and shapes and,
sizes and you, know they all have different stories and

(02:54):
different natural, histories and it's just really fun to get
to know them and watch them in your yard and
see what do for our gardens and our. Flowers so
what what?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
What what is your? GOAL i, mean as you're going
through life here and being THE bx wild B, EXPERT i,
mean are you you're out there trying to find new
species that may not have been recognized.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Before that's a great.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Question what is my? Goal that's so philosophical, NOW i
think when it comes to, these my main the main
works That i'm doing right, now beyond sort of educating
and sharing WHAT i know with, everybody is so even
though we know there's four thousand, species it's really not
clear who lives where and what plans they need because

(03:37):
not many people have gone out into the you, know
the Wild west or, wherever tops of mountains and into
really dry deserts to figure out what's. There and so
teaching people and going out myself to these areas to
try and figure out what bees are in different, places
so that we can really get a handle on diversity
and distribution for different places and know where to put

(03:59):
our F it's when we're trying to help bees that
might be.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Declining so as you're out there and you're looking around
and you're you, know every bee that you can find out,
there obviously you're going to try to catch or whatever and.
Identify have you found wild bees out there that have
not been identified and it's the first time that you've seen,
them and they don't match up with anything that's on.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Records, yeah, sure we find we find new. Bees it's
not that uncommon to find new. Species that sounds strange to,
say but it's kind of the. Facts when you find
a bee and it doesn't match up with anything you've seen,
before of course you have to take it to different
collections and compare it to museum records just to make
sure it's not something obscure that's kind of, rare maybe

(04:42):
new in your. State but after you've gone to that,
work then, yeah it's it's it's a new. Species it
needs to be named and added to our catalog of
all of the.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Bees, Wow i'll tell you. What the name of the
book again Is The bees In Your Backyard, olivia Doctor
Olivia carrill and of Course Joseph wilson co authored this.
Book it's absolutely. OUTSTANDING i understand you're working on some
new books as.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, yeah we just published Are we now actually have
two new ones. Now we have one that the common
bees of The Eastern United states and common bees of The,
west and so it's kind of a deeper dive into
how to identify mostly the really common are really exceptional
to see bees that you might, find you, Know ohio

(05:27):
all the way down To florida and up Into maine
for the EASTERN, us and sort of what characteristics you
might look at on that bee to figure out what it.
Is so the features and arrows pointing to things and
stuff like, that and.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
So these have been released and these are now.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Available they are now.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Available, yeah, true crazy but, True Doctor Olivia. Carrill she's
going to be Touring ohio giving presentations throughout the. Weekend
of course you're going to be here In columbus as.
Well we'll talk about, that and of course the one
and down in the h what is It? BAINBRIDGE i
KEEP i was drawn a blank there for a Second

(06:04):
bainbridge as, well which is the whole. Weekend but we'll
talk more about that after the. Break but before we
go into, That joe AND i were talking earlier this
morning and he was we wanted to ask. You he
was talking about every now and then he'll be taking
pictures of flowers or, insects and you'll see where a
bee choose through the side of a flower to get

(06:25):
into the, pollen then the nectar that's inside there would
they speak considered a just a robber or would they
be considered a.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Pollinator we can we, well generally, SPEAKING i think we
consider those nextar. Robbers, yeah a lot of times a
bee is too fluffy or too fat to get inside
a skinny, corolla the, skinny skinny neck of a, flower
and so they'll go to the backside and kind of
nip a little hole and stick their long tongue in
there and. Suck their tongue is kind of like a,

(06:53):
straw and they'll suck all of the nectar out of that,
flower which of course makes that flower unattractive to other
keys that could wiggle in the normal way and passed
by the pollen and everything to get in. There but,
yeah they rob the nectar from those flowers and leave
with the reward without having contributed anything to get.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
It so they messed everything. Up so are they in
my cuckoo?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Group, no they're not in your cool. Group they're actually
typically like you, know bumble bees and carpenter bees and
just the big fat ones that can't go oh really. Flowers, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
So they're just too, Big SO i just chewing them
from the.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Side they're just going in from the. Side you. Know
it's funny because we think about bees and flowers as
this really beautiful mutualistic relationship where they're helping each, other
and they do help each, other but it's kind of
secondary to this other relationship where they they it's kind
of a love. Hate they need each, other but they
don't necessarily always care for each other the way you might.

(07:47):
Think so me stealing a little nectar from the back
is totally within reason.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
FOR i love. It the neighbor of the current book
because you've got some new ones coming out, there they're now.
Now but The bees in Your, Backyard DOCTOR A, carell
she is with us this. Morning we're gonna take a.
Break we're gonna be cause you come. Back we're gonna
find out where you can find her through the state
Of ohio through Next. Sunday here on News radio six
to TEN Wtvn special guests this, morning Doctor Olivia carill

(08:15):
and of course one of my favorite, Books bees In Your.
BACKYARD i love. It i've recommended it to A brazilian.
People it's a great. Book great for the kids, too
to get out there and see these bees and the
wild bees and then try to identify. Them and of
course If Buggy joe uses, it you, know it's got
to be good if he uses it for reference as.
Well talking with the Doctor. Olivia and so you are

(08:37):
in town or in the state for this week helping
to obviously a pollinator awareness. Week you're In cleveland For
you've got two SESSIONS i, believe If i'm not, mistaken
tomorrow and then On, monday and you're at The Mount
Union Universities you're at The Houston Brumbaugh Nature, center, right that's.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Right, Yeah So sunday will be an all. Workshop i'll
be at The Houston brombaugh and Then monday night we're
going to do sort of an abbreviated one for folks
who can't spend the whole day On, sunday just a
little evening lecture and a. Campfire it should be really,
fun really nice.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Evening, well it's got to be fun if you're going
to be leading the whole, THING.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I, mean AND i have the best audiences In, ohio
so it's gonna be fun just Because i'll be with
people who share my passion and it's just such a
great time always and you.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Can learn more about. It Mount union dot E edu
and then the Four Slash Nature. Center then she's going
to spend the Day tuesday driving to Central. Ohio so
you's going to be here In columbus On, Wednesday june
to twenty. Fifth you're going to give a little meat
your backyard pollinators from one until three at The Franklin
Park conservatory and The Botanical. Gardens and again you can

(09:51):
go to their WEBSITE Fp conservatory dot org learn more
about that and get your. Tickets that's an indoor outdoor, session, Right,
yeah we're.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Gonna spend a little time inside kind of learning a
little bit about the natural history and to learn what
to look for on the bees and then go out
to those beautiful gardens and see if we can't find
some on the.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Plants they have been doing a great job, THERE i
tell you, What, eric you, know they just keep improving
and improving all the, time so should find a lot.
There and then you're going to travel down To, Bainbridge,
ohio where you're going to be at The Highland Nature.
Sanctuary and of course this is all through The arc Of,
appalachia and of course you Can. Appalachia you can go
to their website and it's an arc Off appalachia dot

(10:31):
org and a register for this as. Well but you're
going to be there for three.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
DAYS i am.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah we're going to do A friday evening program with
a dinner and, everything and Then, saturday a whole day
workshop will head out and see some of the beautiful
sites that they maintain there and talk about natural history
and watch the bees on the, flowers and Then sunday
we'll kind of wrap up and do a little more
hands on SEE i see if we can help people
sort of remember those bees so when they go home

(10:57):
they know what they're looking. At, yeah someone can be
there for that whole. Weekend of, course we'll do a
shortened program On saturday night just for folks that want
to come for just that cool and.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Again you can go to their websites Arkov appalachia dot
org and then forward slash Bees lecture and learn more
about a resture for it and you will have a great.
Time and of course small. Town BUT i did actually
get a print out of their restaurants that are, available
and that's pretty. Cool and they've got a dairy, queen
so everything's.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Covered that's about.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
RIGHT i just say to run a bits.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Helpful we put it on The bees in Your backyard
on social. Media if anyone has trouble remembering all those,
details you can find the links there as.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Well, yeah so to go to her, website of course
you find it, there and if you, don't email. ME
i got. IT i got a copy of it, here
SO i can send it to you as. Well you,
know Doctor, olivia when you're out there doing this and
you're doing all your, research you, know when you're comparing
numbers and populations of, honeybees that's one, thing because they're
actually what raised LIKE i guess you can say a

(11:58):
crop or, Whatever but how do you, Know how do
you know if the populations are up and down on
all these these wild? Bees how do you how do
you get a feel for?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That, man you ask the best. Questions this is WHAT
i spend my time doing is trying to figure that
out because without any baseline sort of, record it's really
hard to get a sense for whether a population is.
Changing and you, know sometimes the things that we do
on a landscape can help it bee and so we
should see populations go up and in other places maybe

(12:26):
you know something's happening on the land that makes it
harder for bees to persist. There and so my job
is really to get in all of that beastline, data
so that you, know the next group of scientists that
come after, me the kids that are ten years old
right now looking in there but own, backyards can come
out and repeat the work and we can establish those
changes over long periods of. Time because the truth is right,

(12:48):
now it's really hard to quantify how bees are changing
in these really big landscapes when they're so very. Tiny we,
know we, know of, course certain things can help or
not help, bees you, know pesticide and land use change
and all of. That begetting at the specifics of who
is most harmed or who benefits from different things is

(13:10):
the trickier.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Part, well, yeah And i'm assuming as you look back
in the, past has anybody taken this to the level
that you're taking it right?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Now there are more and more people that are interested
in this. Now, yeah over the course of my, Career
i've definitely seen a big surge towards. This SO i
think the future looks right for understanding what's happening with
all of these four thousand different. Bees but, yeah it's
an up and coming field for.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Sure so if you find, well you're out there and
all of a sudden you find this bee and you
know darn well that you know you don't recognize that
you do? All is that like a big rush for, you,
like oh my, GOD i can't BELIEVE i found.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
This it's so interesting you say, that because so often
in the field you can't tell that it's a new.
Species it's just some of the differences between species are still,
minute and you need to be looking under the microscope
and sometimes you have to give it off to another
expert and be, like, HEY i DON'T i don't know
what this. Is can you help me out? Here and
so that rush usually comes later. ON i GUESS i

(14:13):
get a bigger rush from sort of rarer bees THAT
i can, recognize and WHEN i find them in the
field and immediately can can tell, like oh, MAN i
didn't know this one was, here and HERE i have
on my. Net and that's that's always really. Exciting so if.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
You do find one it hasn't been officially, named do
you get to do?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
That oh, goodness, No oh that's so there's there's there's
so many different ways to be a bee. Biologist but
the field of, taxonomy which is where you sit with
a bee and a microscope and you compare it to
all of the other. Ones that, is that is an
elite to field of folks that that maybe don't spend
quite as much time in the field because they're they're

(14:54):
in front of the microscope a, lot but so valuable
and so important and we couldn't do this without folks
that can do. That but they get the honor and
privilege of naming those bees for all of.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Them that's not. Fair you should be able to be
involved with that.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Too oh, WELL i don't.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Mind i'm happy to be outside looking at the, bees
looking at the. FLOWERS i get to hike and be
outside all the. Time i'm perfectly happy with.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
THAT i totally get a, Doctor. Olivia one last question for,
you AND i know that you, know we talk about
the wild bees or the native, bees and they're you,
know they're basically solitary bees or not after. You they
could care less about. You their goal is to basically, reproduce,
RIGHT i, mean that's the bottom, Line and of which
during all of that they become great, pollinators so you

(15:37):
don't really worry about them stinging her. Whatever but if
under pressure or you grab a hold of one or
whatever in, defense they can do. That how often have
you got this stung over all these, years.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You, know not that. Often, honestly WHEN i have a
bee sort of in my, Net i've collected it And
i'm getting ready to take it home with, me they
don't really Know i'm. There they're more worried about the
fabric of the net That i've scooped them up. In
SO i don't usually have to worry AND i get.
STUNG i don't, know maybe once a YEAR i will say.

(16:11):
This last, gosh it was like just a week, AGO
i was at a place in Southern utah and there
were so many. Bees it was an area that had just,
burned and so there were a lot of flowers AND
i scooped up AND i ended up with about thirty
bees in my, net all at, once AND i think
four of them stung. Me, WELL i was trying to
get them all out of. There so it. Happens BUT

(16:33):
i feel, like over the course of it, all it's
not too. Common AND i should add that a wild
bee when it stings, you you, know minus the bumble,
bees they don't really hurt that. Bad it feels like
a strong mosquito, bite so it's not nearly like a honey.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Bee.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Sting those are the bad ones for, sure so you
just smile and, Say, OKAY i earned, IT i deserve.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
IT i deserve, it all, RIGHT i get, it all.
Right so give me the website again if they want
to get your.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Agenda, yeah SO i would go online On instagram Or.
Facebook bees in Your. Backyard we have the post ups
there and the links to all of the different institutions
that are hosting me over the.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Week there you, go Doctor Olivia. Carrill always a. Pleasure
it's always fun having you on THE i look forward
to your other two. Books i'll get those in my
possession and go through those as. Well always fun having
you on the. Show you're doing a great. Job keep
up the great.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
WORK i appreciate. It thank you so.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Much all, right take, care Doctor Olivia. Carrill again in
the book THAT i love is The bees In Your
backyard and two new ones coming. Out they are out,
already So i'll have to check those out as. Well all,
right quick, break we come. Back phone lines are open
for you. Again eight two ONE wtvn eight hundred and
six to TEN wtvn here on news radio six y
TEN wtvn. HERE i am sorry about. That always a

(17:50):
pleasure having Doctor olivia on with, us there's no doubt
About and if you want to learn more about her
text coming up talk coming up On, Wednesday june twenty,
fifth it's to meet your backyard pollinators at The Franklin Park.
Conservatory just go to their WEBSITE Fp conservatory dot org
and learn more about from one to three in the,
Afternoon i'll tell you you can just tell listening to

(18:11):
her talk, there that's gonna be a fun time and
of course if you're really into, It The ark Of Appalachia,
APPALACHIA i don't want to Say, Apologia ark Of appalachia
in that's gonna Be, Friday saturday And sunday In. Bainbridge
really super talk there as, well so check it out
and check out her book as. Well it Is National
Pollinator Week awareness, week so you, know again look out

(18:35):
there around your landscape and you're, containers hanging, baskets, Whatever
what have you done to help increase the environment for the.
Pollinators you, know it can be done as simply as in,
containers in window, boxes hanging. Baskets you, know you get
a larger hanging, basket like a fourteen inch diameter. Basket
it's amazing what you can plan in that hanging basket

(18:56):
that's great for pollinators including the, hummingbirds an assortment of
plants that'll go. In they're hang it up in the
air and they absolutely love you for, it and it's
very attractive as. Well last week we were planning our
area around our patio and all on our, planters AND
i wound up taking two ten gallon nursery black nursery.

(19:16):
Pots the plastic one is very, inexpensive potting, soil fertilizer
ins in the, soil and planting two pollinator containers with
an assortment of a vermilion, PLANT i love, that the cigar,
plant two or three types of, milkweed some, terenia some.
LANTANA i can't think of all the, things BUT i

(19:37):
put a nice assortment of pollinator, plants both for the
hummingbirds and for the, pollinators and a ten gallon. Bucket
within that week, period they've already started to fill, in
looking really, nice very, colorful and again very attractive to the.
Pollinators and it's, just you, know it's just you can
do something as simple as. That one of them on
your patio, Works multiple of them on your patio is even.

(20:01):
Better so, again think about ways that you can help
be a part, of you, know doing make it turning
your area whatever you own outdoors into a bed and
breakfast for all those, pollinators very very very important to
the gardening. Phone, ees we shall, Go, Christopher good, Morning good, Morning, yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
HEY i wonder if you could fact check SOMETHING i
read on the. INTERNETS i have some used cooking, oil vegetable,
oil AND i was looking up how to dispose of it.
Properly one of the recommendations was that it could be
used as a soil. Amendment that sounded strange to.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Me a soil you ever heard? Such never heard of?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
That, Okay, well the theory was that the bacteria break
it down into things that are useful for. Plants but
what kind of movement heard of? It i'm not going
to try.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
It, no what kind of oil did it? MATTER i
mean vegetable oil.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Or, WELL i have canola, oil but it is said
vegetable oil in. General and you, know even the animal
fats from cooking that might be in it could be
broken down by the.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Bacteria soil. Amendment let me, Know i've never heard of that,
one AND i Know i'm always anti home remedy. Things
there's a few things THAT i do agree, with the
coffee grounds and the baking soda for a moss and
things like. That but, nope that's a new one for.
Me BUT i will certainly do some research on it
next week and report back Next. Saturday i'll be.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Listening thank you all, Right, chris.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Good talking with. You, kathy good, morning.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Well and thank you for taking my, call my.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
PLEASURE i have a quick.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
QUESTION i have a burning bush that is about maybe
two years. OLD i planted three of, them and they're doing,
fine except for one of. THEM i looked at it
one day.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
And it was.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Fine and the next MORNING i got, UP i was
out looking at my landscape and half of the bush
the leafs dropped off of, it not the top, half
but like left, side right, side, gone just absolutely. Gone
they were on the. Ground and the other half of

(22:16):
the bush is still. Alive But i'm just curious what
would have caused that to. Happen, now WHEN i looked
at the, BUSH i clipped down a little bit and
it was still green on the. STEMS i don't know
if it still. IS i DIDN'T i haven't checked it
in the last week or. So but half of it is,

(22:38):
alive that the leaves are, green but the other half
doesn't have any new foliage coming out on. It it's
just the streatiest. THING i, mean within twenty four hours
it dropped half of its leaves on the right, side
right down the middle of that burning.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Bush green did they drop green? Leaves? Were?

Speaker 4 (22:58):
They they were?

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Green and by the TIME i looked at, it they
were kind of greenish brown because they were drawing, up
so they were not yellow with. Leaves they were green.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Leaves and so two THINGS i think of right, away
especially if it's isolated like. That you, know burning bush
are very successful to a warm season mit that actually gets.
In they get on the bottom of the. Leaves they
usually cause them to start to just color, first and
then all of a sudden they, drop and they can
do it like on the third of the, plant the whole.

(23:28):
Plant it doesn't kill, them but it causes early leaf,
drop and you finally get tired of it and you
can try to control. It it's really hard to. Do
sprain them out with water is usually one of the
best ways to keep the populations, low but you finally
get so tired of it that you just wind up
pulling them. Out but it can affect just part of the,
plant all of the. Plant you don't see. Them it's

(23:49):
a warm season might that they get on the under
warm season might there's cool season mites and there are
warm season, mites and it's this warm season that as
we get into early, summer all of a, sudden you
see burning bush and they've been doing it for a
couple of, weeks start to lose their, leaves and that's
what that's. From. Now you would typically if you turn
one of those leaves, over you can look on the

(24:10):
underside of the leaf that, dropped and it's it looks.
Different there's a there's like a could see dark, specks
a little bit lighter, color et, cetera et. Cetera but
if that's what it, is that's could be the other.
Things the other THINGS i look for is look on the.
Stems now they've got that exfoliating bark or that quirky.
Bark so it's hard to, tell but they can get,

(24:32):
scale and scale would be a whitter gray color on
the stem. Itself if if you get high populations of,
scale it's a sucking. Insect they can cause individual branches to,
drop so check. That and one last thing to look
for as you're doing your detective work here is look
toward the base of the plant and look for any

(24:55):
places that may have been the bark has been taken.
OFF i have seen vole v o l e s
vowles actually choose chew the bark off the bottom of burning.
Bush they'll hang out where the mulch goes up against the,
plant chew the bark off on one side of the,
plant and all of a sudden they just lose all
their leaves Or i've seen the whole plant die because
they choose the chew the bark. Off so look down

(25:17):
where it goes into the. Ground check that. Out check
out the stems for. Scale check out the leaves that have,
dropped and even maybe even some that are still on
the plant for mites and would be on the underside
of the leaf there that you would probably notice That
the most uh and the only other THING i could
think of is obviously watering. Issues if stays two wet

(25:37):
on one, side that could cause a. Problem we do
see occasional winter die back on. Those every now and
then you'll see a couple branches here and there just
die back out out for no reason. Whatsoever, uh just
an environmental, thing so that can happen as. Well But
i'm gonna guess it's one of the three things we
mentioned at the at The at FIRST.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
I think IT'S i think it's probably the voles Because
i've had them. Before but it's just it's it's the
pattern of it that was very confusing to. Me it's like,
you it's just like straight right down the middle and,
well seeing.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
If they chewed on one if they chewed on one
side of that shrub and took the bark off just one,
side that would affect just one side of the.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Shrub, well but the bark is. OKAY i can see
the bark so. Quick there's nothing wrong with the. BARK
i think it must be coming from. Underground but it's
just the strangest thing because maybe they got their belly
fall and said ok and they moved on because there's
two other burning bush.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
There that's.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Great knock on.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Wood they're doing, fine and the other half of this
one is doing fine.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Too so.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Well two, things do that do your, homework do that detective.
Work pull the multch, back take a look down. Below
look for WHAT i told you to look for before
if the if the stems are still, green don't give
up on. It i've seen the. Relief, yeah within the same.
Year feel free to take a picture of it the
overall plant and up close on the. Stems email them to.

(27:08):
Me MAYBE i can pick something up looking at that
as well and try to help you out that. Way.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Okay one other quick QUESTION i just thought. OF i
just bought the most beautiful hydrangia white hydranga at a
nursery up In, delaware and it's, white just. Beautiful, well
it turned pink AND i don't want. PINK i want.
White is it because of the variety THAT i? Bought,

(27:33):
yes and it's. Not how DO i make a pink one?
WHITE i know you can make a pink one, Blue
but do you know?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
What do you remember what the variety? Is?

Speaker 4 (27:42):
NO i.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
DON'T i still have to tag at.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Home tell me what the variety. Is is it a
cone shaped? Flower?

Speaker 5 (27:48):
No it is.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Not that's, right, okay because a lot of times what
these will. Do the macrophileo types that are pink or
blue are typically either pink or. Blue they're usually not. White,
Okay but the white variet these typically are. White they'll
be kind of a green and they open up. White
and many of the newer selections are being bred to
actually fade into a pink or red for extended, colors

(28:12):
so that that particular selection could be one of those
where as they, fade they fade into a. Pink find
out what it. Is read the tag and then again
when you email, me tell me which one it, is
And i'll bet that's what it, is And i'll help
explain that to.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
You, Well i'm man just to see it. Bloom the
new blooms come out and see what color they. Are they're,
wider they're.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Pink, yeah and let me know. Again but tell me
what the, variety what the selection, is AND i can
tell you how they're supposed to.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Flower i'll send it your. White thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Much sounds good you. Too all, right just take a last,
break we come. Back phone lines are over for you
at a two to one WTV in here on news
radio six to ten WTV. In you, Know i've always
said this time of the year can be a really
tough time of the year for plants and for us
trying to figure out what's going on with, plants because

(29:02):
especially this spring had such a great spring and the
temperatures have been, cooler and we've had timely rainfalls and
plants have put out a ton of new. Growth you
got a lot of new leaves out. THERE i, mean
it's just really. Lush lawns look absolutely. Wonderful and now
we're going to go from that into a you, know
we transition go into this warmer. Period obviously it happens

(29:22):
every year and usually drier as. Well we'll see what happens.
There but we are going from where we have been.
Cooler now all of a, sudden we've gone to that to. Nineties,
tomorrow ninety six degrees is going to feel like one
hundred and some to, us not to the, plants but you,
know ninety six degrees AND i think the nineties are
sticking with us through the entire. Week so when plants

(29:44):
start to go through, this sometimes the transition can be
a little, tough and next thing you, know you're getting yellow.
Leaves the inside leaves are, falling a lot of, wilting
a lot of new growth maybe still coming. On these
plants can't be. Supported it's so, hot they can't get
enough moisture to it start to brown a. Bit you,
think you, know you don't and you can't. OVERREACT i

(30:04):
think the thing to remember is, this we are we
are going through this transition period newly planted trees and.
Shrubs you, know you may have to you may have
to increase your watering cycle based on what you were
doing this. Spring because it's now, warmer they are gonna
dry out. Quicker the heat's gonna force more moisture out
of those, leaves so they need more to take. Up

(30:25):
so again you're gonna have to monitor on a regular
basis before you water each, time check the root, ball
make sure it needs to be water and if it,
does give it a really thorough. Soaking don't be a
water tease as we get into there. Anytime but as
we get into the summer, season if you're going to water,
water you're gonna water. Something soak. It you're not drowning.

(30:46):
It soak, it let it dry. Out that's the, key
so it can breathe in between waterings and then soak it.
Again and in some cases for the, lawn you, know
we look at an inch of rainfall every seven to
ten days for optimum growing. Conditions you, know if you
have to, supplement it's nice to do it all at one.
Time you can do it twice if you have to
two different, sprinklings but it's good to do it all

(31:08):
at one. Time you seem to get better results that.
Way but you, KNOW i think we're gonna have to
watch this this. Week watch our, watering especially for newly
planted trees and, shrubs and take care of the established
ones as. Well if mother nature doesn't come through with
a really good half to full day soaking. Rainfall from
this point, on rainfall becomes a. Bonus blow through showers

(31:28):
even if you get two inches of rain is a.
Bonus don't count on it for watering your. Plants, mary
thanks for holding. On you're in the garden With Ron.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Wilson, Hi, ron thank you for taking my. Call oh my.
PLEASURE i just have a. Question when you buy cone
flowers that are the white or the orange and you plant,
them but they come up purple the next, year why
does that?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Happen you know, plants plants typically can change. Colors but
what can happen is that twofold one is you can
get a sport off a woody plant where the one
of the parents' geenans will pop right out of the
side of a. Stem and you get this new. Stem
it's got a different color on. It that can. Happen
but what usually with, perennials they will go to, seed

(32:18):
and sometimes when they go to, seed some of those
seeds that pop up are different than what your mother
or parent plant, was and so all of a sudden
you've got a different. Color so they will fade. In you,
know they'll show that instead of the original. Color sometimes
you lose the old one and the seeds come up
and that's what you. Get sometimes you get a combination

(32:39):
of the. Two so you, KNOW i always look at
whether they seed it or, not and a lot of
times that'll. Happen iris will do. That you have a
bed of, iris it's all white or all the lavenders or,
whatever and all of a, sudden this white one pops.
Up it's one of the parent plants and the plant
had gone to seed drop the. Seed white's very aggressive
and they take over in the iris. Gardens so you

(33:00):
usually when that, happens it's from the seeds that have
blown in or dropped from the other plants not coming
true to, seed and so it comes up another.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Color, okay BECAUSE i have the cone, flowers you, know
they've come out with so many pre. Colors, yes but
they just they just go back to. Purple they don't
get the.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Color.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yep and again you know originally. Bought AND i have
a delphinium that did that, too because my husband's favorite
is the, blue but it's.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Pink, well and think about that, too because what happens
with the delphiniums they receive. Themselves it's the same thing
and so many times that original plant may not come
back up the next, year but the seeds, do and
the seeds happen to be another, color.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Another, color, Yes, Okay, okay just.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Wondering i'm, Gone i'm gonna guess that's what the answer.
Is But i'm pretty sure that's probably what you're.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Seeing, okay all, right appreciate, it all, right good talking with.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
You thanks all of our colors, Today thanks to our.
Sponsors thanks of course to l our, producer because Without,
ella none of this stuff would. Happens To, ella thank
you so much for all that you do to make
this show. Work now do yourself a. Favor it's gonna
be hot and a really crazy week coming up, here
so make sure you take care of your newly planted
trees and shrubs and existing ones as. Well make sure
they're getting watered on a regular basis as. Needed check them,

(34:28):
first all. Right make make sure you check them. First
keep planning those pollinator, plants all. Right get the kids
and dogs of all with gardening by all. Means make
it the best weekend of your. Life stay, Cool see
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