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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about yardening.
It is hot, hot hot. Speaking of hot, hot hot,
let's kick it off with the cup of Joe, mister
Joe Struck, our executive producer. Let's take a look at
what's going on his hot landscape, his backyard, front yards,
hide yards, wherever you wanted to go, Okay, where it's
(00:22):
up to you, of course, our website at Ron Wilson
online dot com Facebook page. In the garden with Ron Wilson.
Good morning, sir. Yes, it is hot, very very yes,
yes it is. It is dang hot. It is dang hot,
and it's July. It is July, so it's supposed to
be hot. So good pool weather, believe it or not. Oh,
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here we go. I have been at the pool twice
this week, our community pool. What yep, twice with missus Wilson. Wow,
walked down to the pool and took a little Okay,
so what kind of suit does Ron Wilson have? Does
he have a speedos all the way speed really tight.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Normal one or one of those old timy ones where
it's like overalls.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, that's that's me, I need the spinners to keep
him from falling off of me.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
What's good? Good?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Glad you got out? Yeah, I got that pool. I
haven't been in the pool in a long time. So
she commenced me to go up and take a dip.
So we did a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Did you cannon ball?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Uh? You know what's funny? As I did, she did.
She got in here a little there wasntybody in a pool,
and then she got in a little raft and she
was floating out there, and I cannonball just all of
a sudden, made a little cannonball and done that a
long time. Nice, that's fine. And it hurt me for
a week. I'm sure it's like, oh, I forgot how
much that hurts. Well, you're not and you're not young anymore.
(01:48):
Can't do that. No, you gotta be careful little bit
more about stuff like but I enjoyed it. I'm a whimp.
I've gotten as worse as time has gone along of
getting in the water was cold.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's cold.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, you know, you get into water, it's a different difference,
and your stomach and all. You're like, oh, you're one
of those deals. You got that minute before you get
and I saw it, like you know, and I've become
really bad about that, Like I just come on, just
just jump in, come on, just do it. I stand
there for ten minutes and then finally take the dive.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Finally, you just do a cannonball.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
If I just do the canniball. That's why I fin
I said, just do the canniball, just get in and go.
So I did do one of them. Did you do
a jack knife too? No, just a cannibal. It's not
deep enough to dive into. So I'm glad it was
that fun I finally yeh. So it's a but you
always funny, is I was? I haven't been. If I
if I fell out of a boat in a lake today,
I would drown. Really yeah, I mean I could, I
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could swim.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Or if you are taking pictures of the new Cleveland
browns helmet, would you drown?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I would drown. I just can't. I don't have the endurance.
I mean, I'm overweight. I just there's no I just
said swimming in that pool. I said, if I fell
out of a boat in the lake, I would not
make it to the shore.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, just just so you feel better.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Sad thing and talking about that too, was the what's
his face? And the Cosby kids. Oh yeah, oh my gosh,
that's horrible. He got caught in an undertoe. I got
Carly and Meghan reminded me. We got caught one time
out of the outer Banks in that and I could
not get them back. We couldn't get back onto the beach,
and it just kept taking us down and taking us down,
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and I really did think we were going to make
it out of there. Finally broke through. It got them
both pushed up where they could get out, got myself out.
So and that was not even close to what he
was dealing with.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm I'm gonna just stick to going swimming in a
pool and just forget about the whole ocean thing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We can enjoy the ocean and just don't go in. Yeah,
I mean he could set out, hey, sorry, stuff touches
me and the ocean, get a beach chair, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And enjoy the wind coming off the ocean.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And I guess that was a dangerous beach that he
was on too. There lots of warnings about that, but
it's not gonna happen to me, unfortunately it did. That's
very sad. So yeah, that that really was said. And
I'm sure you also said with mister Osborne. Oh of course,
I really you know what, mister Hogan, you know what,
both of those guys, I really felt part of my childhood. Yeah,
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I really felt kind of bad about I mean, you know,
celebrities pass, but I really did. I mean, I really
liked Ouzzie. I really liked Black Sabbath when I was
a kid. I mean, think about when I was a teenager,
Black Sabbath as you probably listened to him in your
car now, So that's what I'm saying. And they still
listened to Black Sabbath today. And of course Hulk, I
mean he changed changed the world and wrestling.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's he. It was, it was you
know the reason why it's worldwide now is because of him.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
There's no doubt he made it what it is. Even
the other wrestlers admitted to that. I mean, like, you know,
we wouldn't be where we are if it wasn't for
hul Cogan.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's a fact. That's fact.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So I guess he'd of course, he'd put doing a
lot of stuf aroys and that takes a toll on
you after a while. Oh and you had a lot
of back isshoes. He said he had twenty seven surgeries
in five year period. Yeah, at an interview about six
months ago, and mostly on his back. Yeah, and they
had the few apparently the last one he had, they
fused some vertebrae together and he had complications after that.
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And now he's now he's uh wrestling in the sky
Yeah with Roddy Piper and Andrea the Giant Roddy were
out and Savage and the Junkyard Dog of course Dick
the Bruiser.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah. So yeah, it's it's it's sad, but yeah, I
mean it's very sobering because it's part of your childhood.
It's just like, oh yeah, because usually when I mean
you know when that was little, you know, when celebrities died,
they were like they weren't really my celebrities or my
parents celebrities. Right now they're my celebrities, and like, wait
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a minute, yeah, you guys are supposed to die.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Someone heroes, Yeah, you know what idols. He looked up
to some of them. So yeah, absolutely. But the thing
with Jamal that was that was that's track that was
just awful man. Sad news. Yeah, I hate to see that.
So who had a guess do you have the day
guess today? Yes, it's going to be a very unusual
show today. You want to know why? Why is it
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going to be unusual? I mean saw the breers? Do
you need?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's like twelve of them?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Chaseel beats, What a reminder somebody's hungry.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Goodness.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Think back before we COVID, we used to have people
in the students in studio in studio right what Yeah, well,
guess what on your way out this morning when you're
going down the elevator, I need you to let Ron
rothis in. Okay, remember you used to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, he's coming in.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
He's in the house. But he's also bringing his two kids.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Oh cool.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They wanted to see how a radio show works. Part
of their girl Scout Boy Scout projects. So they're gonna
be there watching get their broadcasting their father do his
thing on the radios.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Cool, very cool.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, so we'll have them coming in next them coming in,
So make sure you don't forget to let it out.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'll leave the door open. Bring him up the other way,
prop it up, prop it upen with a box.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And somebody said, you know, we had all the cicadas
but nothing was mentioned about the mole increase of the populations.
It was a mole increase that goes along with it.
You know, people don't complain about moles like they used to.
But if you noticed, about six weeks ago there were
moles trapping signs everywhere you're or sooner than that, before
the the cicadas came out. But anyway, I said, you're right.
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So guess who I got a hold of the man,
Tom Schmidt, the moll man. He said he is experienced,
he has experienced. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He has
experienced three of those seventeen year cicada outbreaks. Wow, show
you that he's been in the business a long time. Yeah,
my goodness. So he's going to talk with us this
morning about and he did say, yeah, most, definitely the
(08:04):
most go up up and down with the with cicadas.
Gonna have them on and uh yeah, then we've got
Gary Salvan and Buggy Joe is on vacation today. Yeah,
he's allowed to take vacation. There's only allow to take
vacation or in the winter time. He's in that state
up north that he can't even pronounce, Wisconsin. I just said,
I said, you can't say the name when you're on
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the radio, but yeah, you're going there on.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Vacation Wisconsin, Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So it is. It is a nice day. Okay, the
light tous stuff. But anyway, so they stuck with me
and Ron talking about cool. So there you go. Cool.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
The website is Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Hopefully people are enjoying the changes to the.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Pictures like this week's kind of I don't get any well,
you know what, you didn't know I had been to
the pool this week?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You only feedback I've gotten this from you. No one,
no one ever says, hey, Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Anymore of but stuff like that. No, it doesn't seem
like but anyway, you didn't even know I had gone
to the pool. I didn't. That's pretty interesting. Yeah, yeah,
it was just actually have to check that one out.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I just kind of thought, because it was so hot,
you know, may as well have something that's.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Related to or maybe you're going to break the news
that you had a pool in your backyard. No, that's
not happening, Okay, just make it sure. So on the website, Yes,
there's a there's a couple of things from the Extension
I service this week. Glow worms for one, Yes, and
I guess the softly yes, yeah, I think about soft lies. Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
This week's Rita's recipe is definitely down her alley from
her background.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, it pronounced that correctly. I looked at that to
her three times. What the recipe for te toushe? Yeah,
fat toushe, fat toushe.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It is a nice little I guess that's like a salad.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I guess, in the salad with flat crumbles in it,
And that's what the tushe comes from or whatever. So yeah,
By the way, that trading food is really yummy. By
the way, Missus Wilson and I traveled and drove out
to see mister and missus Hikingfeld. Yes, how about that
(10:28):
she put shoes on? Uh, she made me take them off,
so as we got there, we both had to leave
our shoes in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Really.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah yeah. Took her a couple of
butterfly boo pee vines. M that she makes te's and
dies out of it. She grew special for her.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Did you try some cherry bounce?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
We did not. I saw it, but we did not
try it it's too early. But she did mention. She
did mention that she needs to make lemon sellow. It's
still sample. She heard you talking about it's still sample.
And now we didn't. We didn't, So I got to spin
a little time.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Ever didn't make it into the bottle, and a little
access on the side.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
On the side, but we got to spend a little
of the time with her. Took Miley out. Miley got
to see the chickens and stuff like that. So cool. Yeah,
see the garden.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So I finally finally did visit the hiking Fell's house. Invite. Yeah,
planet that I invited myself because I had the plants
for it. So there you go. The the planet of
the week is spider plant. Spider plants. Why wouldn't the
heck would you pick spider plants. One of the oldest
house plants out there. Everybody's had a spider plant because
they're cool. Because of that, everybody there is so easy
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to grow yeap, very colorful. You get the little airplanes,
little spiders that hang off the side. But what a
lot of folks don't realize is that's a great container
plant for your annual planters. During the summer. You can
even use it in the ground as a border if
you're just looking for an annual border plant. In the
smaller spider plants, they make it looks like a riopy.
Uh it's tropical obviously, so it's not can overwinter. But
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they're great in containers, filler plants for containers, they're great
in the ground, great and hanging baskets way in are
used and other things besides a house plant. And it's
also always in the top ten list of best air
purifiers when it comes to house plants indoor plants as well,
So it's been around a long time, but it can
be used in many other cases beside situations besides in
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the house. Very cool there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Awesome, Well, tough for me to head on out and
get my twelve burritos.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
He might get some ash browns too. Somebody's hunger. He
had a diet Coke's something. By the way, I got
a picture from the doctor after they left Mexico. Yeah,
he was at a NASCAR event. What im telling you, man?
What is the deal there?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Doctor? Laura's paying nice if they're hiring I don't know. Goodness.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, there's a picture of him and first turn it
NASCAR last Wow. Cool. Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
He's enjoyed. We're just so jealousy enjoyed. Enjoy it now
because once you get married, all that stuff goes away.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I did not say that you did.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But it's true, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You said it. I did not.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Though I did not, you would admit that it was true.
It's true. You're shaking your head. Yes, I am not
shaking my head. Yes, you're sick in your head. Yes,
as you were saying, no, my head is going like this. No.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
If I had a camera in the studio, it's my
word against yours.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh, I don't forget to let the out the arbor. Doc.
You get a box in front of the front door,
all right, don't scare the kids.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
All right, appreciate it, Joe Shuck, our executive producer. If
you like, we see on our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson, which,
by the way, it means if Ron's here, he's not
going to be on the chat room, did he.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Face won't be unless he's gonna do it on his
fund in between breaks.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Interesting anyway, don't Joe Strucker. Blameer Z, doctor Z, because
it's all his fault.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
He's on Garden eighty three.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
He's at Garden eighty three, Washington, d C. And Turn
three and no he's a Turn one and maybe three too.
I don't know who knows. Uh, righting around his Vespa
Bownser on the back. I don't understand. Sweet Tart goes
on the back bowser in the sidecar. Come on, doctor Z.
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Eight hundred eight two three eight two fivey five. Here
in the garden with Ron Wilson and the Durango Kid.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson again that toll
free number eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five talking about yardig. Don't forget our website at Ron
Wilson online dot com. And uh, the plant of the week.
You know, I was talking to Joe about that with
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the spider plants. I'm telling you that's a plant through
flights under the radar. You can use that thing for
so many different ways, indoors and outdoors. They're tough, they're durable,
full sun shade, and you can propagate your own makes
it really easy. And you got lots of fillers with
the spider plants. But again check it out. Ron Wilson
online dot com. Now, as I promised, and I'm not
(15:08):
going to give him the big introduction like we normally do.
Nor are we going to have the yet.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Maybe we will. The crowd cheering in the background, who knows.
But it's time for weather. It's the weather and in
the trees. And this time it's a little different because
he's in the studio and he's gonna hang around for
a while. Uh you know who I'm talking about. He's
our registered consulting arbist, amateur meteorologist, I say, board certified
master arbist. It goes on and on and on his
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website arbordoctor dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, mister Ron Rothas,
good morning, how are you. I'm good. You missed the
cheers in the background.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I do, Sorry, computer just locked up.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
You would think with this large crowd in the studio,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Oh oh, you meant their comput You meant the computer
for their microphone. Yes, yeah, I got it. Now I understand.
Now I got to fix Yeah, there we go, Ron Rothas,
there it is. Now. You gotta feel better, better late
than ever better late than that weather mic was obsoute,
you know, so now they get to see what you
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actually look like.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I do reboot their microphone, you.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Know, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I have a face for radio.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So you know, I didn't say anything. I said, I
said nothing. So are you staying busy this summer?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's the understatement of the centurion, trying to keep my
head above water with all the just various, all.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
The water, with all the water in some areas, but.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Just we are busy as can be, as busy as
we've ever been this summer.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Why is that not just because it's the arbor doctor,
I mean, honestly, what why is there? Are there more
things going on with trees this summer than in the past.
Are more people involved with taking care of the trees
more than they were in the past? What are you seeing?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I don't know that I can put my finger on it.
I do think that part of it with me is
just that I've been in business for twenty one years
and so you get a lot of referral that way
and things like that, and that's a big part of
it for me. But there are a lot of trees
having problems, I mean, and it's it varies. I mean, like,
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for example, the other day, I looked at three very
old oak trees which the person was concerned about, and
ended up being that they legitimately should have been because
there were some very serious fungal infections in the base
of one of the trees in particular, But all three
of them had a very serious fungal infection at the
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base of the trees, and they were fungi that brought
out the root system in the base of the tree significantly.
And I, you know, my specialty is tree preservation, but
I had to, you know, give them bad news that
those trees probably need to come down. There really wasn't
too much that could be done. The one fungus, brittle
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cinder fungus kind of flies under the radar for a
lot of arborous but it is a fungus that can
decrease the wood strength at the base of the tree
by seventy to ninety percent and cause the tree to
just basically snap off and fall over. So when you
find that one in combination with oak bracket fungus, which
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basically rots the roots out from the bottom up, it's
not good. And this was an eighty foot tall tree
that was already leaning over the street and over the.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Wires, leaning because of the over time, just the roots
over time.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, it wasn't a grouping, so I mean, it wasn't
it wasn't progressively leaning from the standpoint that it was
ready to you know, progressively falling over. But you know,
the weight of the tree was all off set toward
one side, toward the street, and it had fungi at
the base, which we're rotting out the root system and
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rotting out the base of the tree. And you know,
when I say that, I don't want to scare people,
you know, I mean, these were trees that legitimately should
have scared people.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But it is a.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Message I think to people that when you have larger trees,
they can have issues that need that need attention. Occasionally
they need to come down. But you know, what I
find is that fear. A lot of people make decisions
about trees based on fear. Fear of the unknown, And
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if you actually understand what's going on with the tree,
you know, in this case, it was kind of a
worst case scenario for this oak tree, But many other
times things are going on with the tree where yeah,
there's some branches that could fall out of it. They
can be pruned. Yes, the tree has a large canopy
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that maybe is catching enough wind that could cause branch breakage.
But some selective branch reduction can be done to reduce
the amount of windload on a tree. I mean things
could be done to mitigate that risk down to a
lower risk. And so rather than being scared of the
unknown and just cutting a tree down that has incredible
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ecological value and sociological value, you know, having it looked
at by a consulting arborist, by a certified arborist who
knows what they're looking at, who who is experienced in
tree preservation, can really give you a peace of mind,
can make the whole situation safer if it needs to be,
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if that if any type of risk needs to be mitigated,
and can allow that asset to really stay there for
a long period of time, because it could. You cut
a big tree down. I've seen calculations that it can
take two hundred and fifty saplings to equal the environmental benefits.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Of one lost from the one tree, you have.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
More mature tree. And that's if the two hundred and
fifty saplings I'll survive, right, which often they don't. Almost
never happens, right, Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Let me let me ask you this. So you saw
that you were there, you saw that it had that
the problem with the disease, you know, it's the king.
Can you actually look at that and somewhat determine how long?
I mean, is that something that you needed to take
out right away? Was it still strong enough? The tree
still looked healthy enough that it could last for another
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two or three years? I mean, when you look at
something like that, do you try to say, I think
we can pull another two or three four years out
of this before it starts to we need to get
rid of it? Or is that how do you make
that call?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, part of that is knowing what the what the
pathogen is, what the fungal organism is, right, because it's
just like with camps and people some you know, I've
had some skin cancers that are kind of minor, and
the dermatologists that said, yeah, we have to take care
of them, but if you don't, you'll be fine for years,
you know, just slowly get worse. You know, melanoma comes
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along and it's an emergency. You know, it's kind of
same thing with this. So yes, very often we have
fungal pathogens and trees. You almost never have an older
tree that doesn't have some degree of decay in the trunk.
And trees like that can be preserved. I mean, they
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can be worked with, and we try to make determinations
as to how extensive the decay is and things like that.
But knowing what the pathogen is and what the mode
of action is really helps us out. You know, the
brittle cindric fungus. Doctor Christopher Lully, who's a national expert
in wood decay fungi lists that is the number one
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fungal organism that barbors should be familiar with because its
mode of action is really, really bad. So when you
find that in a tree, there's one or two trees
that I'm working with that that have it that, I'm
very cautious with them.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
But we're.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
We're fairly confident that those trees, you know, the infection
hasn't spread very far. But when I find brittle cinder fungus,
it's a major red flag, and more often than not,
i'd say those trees can't be preserved.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And if you find those in oak, and we got
to take a break here, you find those with oak
trees you're talking about, you find the more with the
red or the red oak.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
It's actually the most common in maples and beech trees.
But I don't know that I've found it in a
in a white oak that this was a pinoak that
we found it in the other day.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, because I remember one time you and I both
saw the same I'm pretty sure was a red oak
that had just the high winds and it just snapped
right at the ground and you could see that it
had been decaying. I mean it just separated, it just
fell over. I mean this thing was three feet in diameter.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And that's not Unfortunately, that's not uncommon with some of
the red oaks. But again, so people aren't unnecessarily scared.
A lot of that is a situation that can be
identified and determinations could be made by an expert who
really knows what they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And again that's where we always come back to having
somebody come out and take a look at your trees
on a regular basis, just like you go to the
doctor on a regular basis. That's the arbor doctor to
come out and take a look at them. So you
can watch for things like that and do whatever is
necessary because preservation of the tree. Will take a break,
come back, talk about why that's so important, because you know,
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one of the things you brought up was if we
do have to finally cut that big tree down, it
takes two hundred and fifty other trees to try to
compensate for what we lost. And if we could have
saved that one big tree, how important that is, including
planning the other two hundred and fifty trees that are
out there. Talking with Ron Roethlis he's the arbor doctor.
Before we take a break, let's go to Dayton and
talk to our good buddy Dick from Dayton.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Come Onning, good morning, Good morning to your guest. Great choir, Rondon,
Ron and Denny, Ron and.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Ron and Dan. Yeah, so how you doing?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah? Did you tell him I used to work at Loaves.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
As a matter of fact, he knows. He listens to
our show all the time. And he said, of course
I know who Dick is from Dayton and he's and
we that came up. He used to work at loaves,
used to load a lot of marble chips and top
soil and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Dick is famous. We all know Dick.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
See that there you go.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Yeah, I'll tell you, Ron, it's just funny. My family
was all gardening, my uncle Carlo and my cousin Carla
k and my mom and dad did a lot. But
you know, you're from northern Ohio and she had a
big garden there and she used to bring zecchini. My
uncles did, and my cousin was around here. He came
(26:12):
down to see me and it was real nice. We
went out and saw my friend and everything. We ate
a Bob Evans. But as you know, Ron, I'm a
musician and I get to Cincinnati, Dave takes me down
and it's just it's just nice to know you people there.
And the station, high Heart Radio is beautiful down there. Well,
(26:34):
I love you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Hey Dick, my father was a professional jazz musician. He
played drums, Oh Diddy, Jeddy, Now what kind of band
he liked? Jazz, the big band, jazz, bebop jazz, That's
what he was really into. But he played his entire life.
He passed away a few years ago, but I mean
he played from the time he was in high school.
(26:57):
He played in bands around town. I think he was
playing over at the Beverly Hill Supper Club the week
before it burned down.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, well was it? So did Dixie Land. That's the
kind of music we played in Kettering. Banjo was all
on the Ohio River and it's funny, Ron, Uh, it
was on my little board out here. I was in
that ban joe group for forty one years and everybody
broke up. And now I'm playing just around, you know, retired, and.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
There's nothing wrong with that. Keep keep your neighbors, you know. Uh,
keep your neighbors happy. Play that music for them. Uh,
they're gonna appreciate that. And don't forget. Get with somebody
to find out if you can assist teaching like middle
school yuku Leley lessons, so you can get involved with
that and share your let you know, what you know
with a lot of students out there and encourage more
(27:49):
to play the ukulele. We got to go. Dick, always
a pleasure talking. You have a good day, all right,
you two different Dick from Dayton. There you go, quick break.
We come back talking with Ron Rothis he's the arbor Doc.
His website arbor doctor dot com. Got a tree question,
Ron's here for you. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Welcome back. You're in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
(28:11):
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. We're taking your calls about anything yardening.
But we do happen to have Ron rothis in the
studios with us today in house. First time since COVID
started that we've had an in house guest. Uh. We've
been doing all over the phone or yeah, on a
computer or whatever. So it's good to see his ugly
(28:34):
face in here. And uh. And I can say that
because Ron I've known each other forever, so we share
the kind of jokes with each other. I'm not joking.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I mean I am joking a face for radio. That's
what I always say about myself.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But the I started that whole but they saw me.
They said, man, that guy's got a face for radio.
But anyway, talking about tree. So if you've got a
question about any of your tree, anything that may concern you, Uh,
give us a call and Ron'll be more happy to
help you out. And of course you've got a great
website at arbordoctor dot com. I think the big thing
we're talking about and what's gonna take a break. I
want to come back aback talking about what I've been
(29:08):
seeing lately that you've been pushing big time and we've
been trying to preach and harbor and that's about planning
things too deep. But I want to follow up on
what you were saying earlier about tree preservation. And I
know you really as i've known you through all these
years and what you progress and become more knowledgeable and
all the things that you do. One of the things
that you've really become focused on is tree preservation. It
(29:31):
seems to be anyway that's like a big thing, and
I at first I was kind of like, yeah, okay,
but you know, you start to understand why and how
important it is to preserve these bigger trees. It's too
easy for somebody to move in and have these trees
that may be in a way or drop some leaves
or have a little issue, to just have them cut down,
and they don't think about the long term the effects
(29:53):
that that has by removing that or if it starts
to have a little decline like you said, that could
be treatable, could be curable, could be taken care of,
they just decide to get it taken out and how
important it is to try to preserve these larger, older trees,
to keep them around until these younger trees come up
and start to fill in the air, you know, to
(30:13):
take over for them. And trees don't last forever, obviously,
but whatever we can do to keep them going is
so important. And that's what you seem to be focusing on.
I mean, you do everything, but more and more all
the time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Absolutely, And I mean it's not just that I'm a
tree hugger and I want trees around.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
There is sign I ever camped out in a tree
to keep them. Cut it done in.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The tree now, okay, But there is science, peer reviewed
research that shows that human health, both physical health and
mental health is improved by having trees nature greenery around.
I mean, you know, less and less in a way
(31:01):
of heart attacks and quicker recovery from heart problems, from stroke,
better mental health, just all sorts of benefits. Even in
neighborhoods that have trees and greenery lower crime rates. And
there's some psychological sociological reasons that go with that too,
(31:24):
to the extent that a hospital on the west side
of Cincinnati, Mercy West Hospital, designed their entire hospital, so
that there are views out into nature from every patient
room and they have the second largest green roof in
the state of Ohio at that hospital, so that patients
are exposed to nature because the designers of that hospital
(31:46):
knew that that is beneficial to us, to our health. So,
you know, getting rid of large trees just because we
don't like a few leaves or you know, we're scared
of the tree has a lot of ramifications to our lives,
tangible ramifications. It's not it's not just that you know,
(32:07):
I love trees or I don't love trees. It's that
it really does positively impact your quality of life to
have those trees around, and the quality of life of
your community to have those trees around. So, you know,
just a wide range of of foundational reasons for that.
(32:29):
And you know, we talked before about people being scared
of trees. You know, people have all sorts of reasons
for not liking trees, including you know, leaves, Well just
multi leaves up. You don't have to spend the whole
fall raking leaves.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So I mean, there are easy ways to get rid
of them, and especially if they live next door to you. Yeah,
because you'll come and collect them up. Ron Rothinson's with
us this morning taking your calls about trees. Were also
taking your calls about any kind of yardening. Ron knows
about landscaping that as well as myself, So if you've
got other questions, great, but otherwise take advantage of having
him in the studios here this morning, and we'll talk
(33:03):
more about trees after the break. Don't forget our website,
it's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook page. In the
Garden with Ron Wilson. What's going on? What's going on
with that? Are you not there this morning to do take
care of that? Not no, you're not, but anyway check
it out and again we'll take a break to come
back taking your calls at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five Here in the Garden with Ron
(33:24):
Wilson
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about yardening.
It is hot, hot hot. Speaking of hot, hot hot,
let's kick it off with the cup of Joe, mister
Joe Struck, our executive producer. Let's take a look at
what's going on his hot landscape, his backyard, front yards,
hide yards, wherever you wanted to go, Okay, where it's
(00:22):
up to you, of course, our website at Ron Wilson
online dot com Facebook page. In the garden with Ron Wilson.
Good morning, sir. Yes, it is hot, very very yes,
yes it is. It is dang hot. It is dang hot,
and it's July. It is July, so it's supposed to
be hot. So good pool weather, believe it or not. Oh,
(00:47):
here we go. I have been at the pool twice
this week, our community pool. What yep, twice with missus Wilson. Wow,
walked down to the pool and took a little Okay,
so what kind of suit does Ron Wilson have? Does
he have a speedos all the way speed really tight.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Normal one or one of those old timy ones where
it's like overalls.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, that's that's me, I need the spinners to keep
him from falling off of me.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
What's good? Good?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Glad you got out? Yeah, I got that pool. I
haven't been in the pool in a long time. So
she commenced me to go up and take a dip.
So we did a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Did you cannon ball?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Uh? You know what's funny? As I did, she did.
She got in here a little there wasntybody in a pool,
and then she got in a little raft and she
was floating out there, and I cannonball just all of
a sudden, made a little cannonball and done that a
long time. Nice, that's fine. And it hurt me for
a week. I'm sure it's like, oh, I forgot how
much that hurts. Well, you're not and you're not young anymore.
(01:48):
Can't do that. No, you gotta be careful little bit
more about stuff like but I enjoyed it. I'm a whimp.
I've gotten as worse as time has gone along of
getting in the water was cold.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's cold.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, you know, you get into water, it's a different difference,
and your stomach and all. You're like, oh, you're one
of those deals. You got that minute before you get
and I saw it, like you know, and I've become
really bad about that, Like I just come on, just
just jump in, come on, just do it. I stand
there for ten minutes and then finally take the dive.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Finally, you just do a cannonball.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
If I just do the canniball. That's why I fin
I said, just do the canniball, just get in and go.
So I did do one of them. Did you do
a jack knife too? No, just a cannibal. It's not
deep enough to dive into. So I'm glad it was
that fun I finally yeh. So it's a but you
always funny, is I was? I haven't been. If I
if I fell out of a boat in a lake today,
I would drown. Really yeah, I mean I could, I
(02:47):
could swim.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Or if you are taking pictures of the new Cleveland
browns helmet, would you drown?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I would drown. I just can't. I don't have the endurance.
I mean, I'm overweight. I just there's no I just
said swimming in that pool. I said, if I fell
out of a boat in the lake, I would not
make it to the shore.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, just just so you feel better.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Sad thing and talking about that too, was the what's
his face? And the Cosby kids. Oh yeah, oh my gosh,
that's horrible. He got caught in an undertoe. I got
Carly and Meghan reminded me. We got caught one time
out of the outer Banks in that and I could
not get them back. We couldn't get back onto the beach,
and it just kept taking us down and taking us down,
(03:28):
and I really did think we were going to make
it out of there. Finally broke through. It got them
both pushed up where they could get out, got myself out.
So and that was not even close to what he
was dealing with.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm I'm gonna just stick to going swimming in a
pool and just forget about the whole ocean thing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We can enjoy the ocean and just don't go in. Yeah,
I mean he could set out, hey, sorry, stuff touches
me and the ocean, get a beach chair, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And enjoy the wind coming off the ocean.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And I guess that was a dangerous beach that he
was on too. There lots of warnings about that, but
it's not gonna happen to me, unfortunately it did. That's
very sad. So yeah, that that really was said. And
I'm sure you also said with mister Osborne. Oh of course,
I really you know what, mister Hogan, you know what,
both of those guys, I really felt part of my childhood. Yeah,
(04:18):
I really felt kind of bad about I mean, you know,
celebrities pass, but I really did. I mean, I really
liked Ouzzie. I really liked Black Sabbath when I was
a kid. I mean, think about when I was a teenager,
Black Sabbath as you probably listened to him in your
car now, So that's what I'm saying. And they still
listened to Black Sabbath today. And of course Hulk, I
mean he changed changed the world and wrestling.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's he. It was, it was you
know the reason why it's worldwide now is because of him.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
There's no doubt he made it what it is. Even
the other wrestlers admitted to that. I mean, like, you know,
we wouldn't be where we are if it wasn't for
hul Cogan.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's a fact. That's fact.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So I guess he'd of course, he'd put doing a
lot of stuf aroys and that takes a toll on
you after a while. Oh and you had a lot
of back isshoes. He said he had twenty seven surgeries
in five year period. Yeah, at an interview about six
months ago, and mostly on his back. Yeah, and they
had the few apparently the last one he had, they
fused some vertebrae together and he had complications after that.
(05:21):
And now he's now he's uh wrestling in the sky
Yeah with Roddy Piper and Andrea the Giant Roddy were
out and Savage and the Junkyard Dog of course Dick
the Bruiser.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah. So yeah, it's it's it's sad, but yeah, I
mean it's very sobering because it's part of your childhood.
It's just like, oh yeah, because usually when I mean
you know when that was little, you know, when celebrities died,
they were like they weren't really my celebrities or my
parents celebrities. Right now they're my celebrities, and like, wait
(06:00):
a minute, yeah, you guys are supposed to die.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Someone heroes, Yeah, you know what idols. He looked up
to some of them. So yeah, absolutely. But the thing
with Jamal that was that was that's track that was
just awful man. Sad news. Yeah, I hate to see that.
So who had a guess do you have the day
guess today? Yes, it's going to be a very unusual
show today. You want to know why? Why is it
(06:24):
going to be unusual? I mean saw the breers? Do
you need?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's like twelve of them?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Chaseel beats, What a reminder somebody's hungry.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Goodness.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Think back before we COVID, we used to have people
in the students in studio in studio right what Yeah, well,
guess what on your way out this morning when you're
going down the elevator, I need you to let Ron
rothis in. Okay, remember you used to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, he's coming in.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
He's in the house. But he's also bringing his two kids.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Oh cool.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They wanted to see how a radio show works. Part
of their girl Scout Boy Scout projects. So they're gonna
be there watching get their broadcasting their father do his
thing on the radios.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Cool, very cool.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, so we'll have them coming in next them coming in,
So make sure you don't forget to let it out.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'll leave the door open. Bring him up the other way,
prop it up, prop it upen with a box.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And somebody said, you know, we had all the cicadas
but nothing was mentioned about the mole increase of the populations.
It was a mole increase that goes along with it.
You know, people don't complain about moles like they used to.
But if you noticed, about six weeks ago there were
moles trapping signs everywhere you're or sooner than that, before
the the cicadas came out. But anyway, I said, you're right.
(07:42):
So guess who I got a hold of the man,
Tom Schmidt, the moll man. He said he is experienced,
he has experienced. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He has
experienced three of those seventeen year cicada outbreaks. Wow, show
you that he's been in the business a long time. Yeah,
my goodness. So he's going to talk with us this
morning about and he did say, yeah, most, definitely the
(08:04):
most go up up and down with the with cicadas.
Gonna have them on and uh yeah, then we've got
Gary Salvan and Buggy Joe is on vacation today. Yeah,
he's allowed to take vacation. There's only allow to take
vacation or in the winter time. He's in that state
up north that he can't even pronounce, Wisconsin. I just said,
I said, you can't say the name when you're on
(08:27):
the radio, but yeah, you're going there on.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Vacation Wisconsin, Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So it is. It is a nice day. Okay, the
light tous stuff. But anyway, so they stuck with me
and Ron talking about cool. So there you go. Cool.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
The website is Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page
in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Hopefully people are enjoying the changes to the.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Pictures like this week's kind of I don't get any well,
you know what, you didn't know I had been to
the pool this week?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You only feedback I've gotten this from you. No one,
no one ever says, hey, Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Anymore of but stuff like that. No, it doesn't seem
like but anyway, you didn't even know I had gone
to the pool. I didn't. That's pretty interesting. Yeah, yeah,
it was just actually have to check that one out.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I just kind of thought, because it was so hot,
you know, may as well have something that's.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Related to or maybe you're going to break the news
that you had a pool in your backyard. No, that's
not happening, Okay, just make it sure. So on the website, Yes,
there's a there's a couple of things from the Extension
I service this week. Glow worms for one, Yes, and
I guess the softly yes, yeah, I think about soft lies. Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
This week's Rita's recipe is definitely down her alley from
her background.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, it pronounced that correctly. I looked at that to
her three times. What the recipe for te toushe? Yeah,
fat toushe, fat toushe.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It is a nice little I guess that's like a salad.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I guess, in the salad with flat crumbles in it,
And that's what the tushe comes from or whatever. So yeah,
By the way, that trading food is really yummy. By
the way, Missus Wilson and I traveled and drove out
to see mister and missus Hikingfeld. Yes, how about that
(10:28):
she put shoes on? Uh, she made me take them off,
so as we got there, we both had to leave
our shoes in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Really.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah yeah. Took her a couple of
butterfly boo pee vines. M that she makes te's and
dies out of it. She grew special for her.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Did you try some cherry bounce?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
We did not. I saw it, but we did not
try it it's too early. But she did mention. She
did mention that she needs to make lemon sellow. It's
still sample. She heard you talking about it's still sample.
And now we didn't. We didn't, So I got to spin
a little time.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Ever didn't make it into the bottle, and a little
access on the side.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
On the side, but we got to spend a little
of the time with her. Took Miley out. Miley got
to see the chickens and stuff like that. So cool. Yeah,
see the garden.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So I finally finally did visit the hiking Fell's house. Invite. Yeah,
planet that I invited myself because I had the plants
for it. So there you go. The the planet of
the week is spider plant. Spider plants. Why wouldn't the
heck would you pick spider plants. One of the oldest
house plants out there. Everybody's had a spider plant because
they're cool. Because of that, everybody there is so easy
(11:38):
to grow yeap, very colorful. You get the little airplanes,
little spiders that hang off the side. But what a
lot of folks don't realize is that's a great container
plant for your annual planters. During the summer. You can
even use it in the ground as a border if
you're just looking for an annual border plant. In the
smaller spider plants, they make it looks like a riopy.
Uh it's tropical obviously, so it's not can overwinter. But
(12:01):
they're great in containers, filler plants for containers, they're great
in the ground, great and hanging baskets way in are
used and other things besides a house plant. And it's
also always in the top ten list of best air
purifiers when it comes to house plants indoor plants as well,
So it's been around a long time, but it can
be used in many other cases beside situations besides in
(12:23):
the house. Very cool there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Awesome, Well, tough for me to head on out and
get my twelve burritos.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
He might get some ash browns too. Somebody's hunger. He
had a diet Coke's something. By the way, I got
a picture from the doctor after they left Mexico. Yeah,
he was at a NASCAR event. What im telling you, man?
What is the deal there?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Doctor? Laura's paying nice if they're hiring I don't know. Goodness.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, there's a picture of him and first turn it
NASCAR last Wow. Cool. Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
He's enjoyed. We're just so jealousy enjoyed. Enjoy it now
because once you get married, all that stuff goes away.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I did not say that you did.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But it's true, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You said it. I did not.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Though I did not, you would admit that it was true.
It's true. You're shaking your head. Yes, I am not
shaking my head. Yes, you're sick in your head. Yes,
as you were saying, no, my head is going like this. No.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
If I had a camera in the studio, it's my
word against yours.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh, I don't forget to let the out the arbor. Doc.
You get a box in front of the front door,
all right, don't scare the kids.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
All right, appreciate it, Joe Shuck, our executive producer. If
you like, we see on our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson, which,
by the way, it means if Ron's here, he's not
going to be on the chat room, did he.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Face won't be unless he's gonna do it on his
fund in between breaks.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Interesting anyway, don't Joe Strucker. Blameer Z, doctor Z, because
it's all his fault.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
He's on Garden eighty three.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
He's at Garden eighty three, Washington, d C. And Turn
three and no he's a Turn one and maybe three too.
I don't know who knows. Uh, righting around his Vespa
Bownser on the back. I don't understand. Sweet Tart goes
on the back bowser in the sidecar. Come on, doctor Z.
(14:27):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two fivey five. Here
in the garden with Ron Wilson and the Durango Kid.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson again that toll
free number eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five talking about yardig. Don't forget our website at Ron
Wilson online dot com. And uh, the plant of the week.
You know, I was talking to Joe about that with
(14:47):
the spider plants. I'm telling you that's a plant through
flights under the radar. You can use that thing for
so many different ways, indoors and outdoors. They're tough, they're durable,
full sun shade, and you can propagate your own makes
it really easy. And you got lots of fillers with
the spider plants. But again check it out. Ron Wilson
online dot com. Now, as I promised, and I'm not
(15:08):
going to give him the big introduction like we normally do.
Nor are we going to have the yet.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Maybe we will. The crowd cheering in the background, who knows.
But it's time for weather. It's the weather and in
the trees. And this time it's a little different because
he's in the studio and he's gonna hang around for
a while. Uh you know who I'm talking about. He's
our registered consulting arbist, amateur meteorologist, I say, board certified
master arbist. It goes on and on and on his
(15:33):
website arbordoctor dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, mister Ron Rothas,
good morning, how are you. I'm good. You missed the
cheers in the background.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I do, Sorry, computer just locked up.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
You would think with this large crowd in the studio,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Oh oh, you meant their comput You meant the computer
for their microphone. Yes, yeah, I got it. Now I understand.
Now I got to fix Yeah, there we go, Ron Rothas,
there it is. Now. You gotta feel better, better late
than ever better late than that weather mic was obsoute,
you know, so now they get to see what you
(16:10):
actually look like.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I do reboot their microphone, you.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Know, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I have a face for radio.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So you know, I didn't say anything. I said, I
said nothing. So are you staying busy this summer?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's the understatement of the centurion, trying to keep my
head above water with all the just various, all.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
The water, with all the water in some areas, but.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Just we are busy as can be, as busy as
we've ever been this summer.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Why is that not just because it's the arbor doctor,
I mean, honestly, what why is there? Are there more
things going on with trees this summer than in the past.
Are more people involved with taking care of the trees
more than they were in the past? What are you seeing?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I don't know that I can put my finger on it.
I do think that part of it with me is
just that I've been in business for twenty one years
and so you get a lot of referral that way
and things like that, and that's a big part of
it for me. But there are a lot of trees
having problems, I mean, and it's it varies. I mean, like,
(17:18):
for example, the other day, I looked at three very
old oak trees which the person was concerned about, and
ended up being that they legitimately should have been because
there were some very serious fungal infections in the base
of one of the trees in particular, But all three
of them had a very serious fungal infection at the
(17:39):
base of the trees, and they were fungi that brought
out the root system in the base of the tree significantly.
And I, you know, my specialty is tree preservation, but
I had to, you know, give them bad news that
those trees probably need to come down. There really wasn't
too much that could be done. The one fungus, brittle
(18:04):
cinder fungus kind of flies under the radar for a
lot of arborous but it is a fungus that can
decrease the wood strength at the base of the tree
by seventy to ninety percent and cause the tree to
just basically snap off and fall over. So when you
find that one in combination with oak bracket fungus, which
(18:24):
basically rots the roots out from the bottom up, it's
not good. And this was an eighty foot tall tree
that was already leaning over the street and over the.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Wires, leaning because of the over time, just the roots
over time.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, it wasn't a grouping, so I mean, it wasn't
it wasn't progressively leaning from the standpoint that it was
ready to you know, progressively falling over. But you know,
the weight of the tree was all off set toward
one side, toward the street, and it had fungi at
the base, which we're rotting out the root system and
(19:01):
rotting out the base of the tree. And you know,
when I say that, I don't want to scare people,
you know, I mean, these were trees that legitimately should
have scared people.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But it is a.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Message I think to people that when you have larger trees,
they can have issues that need that need attention. Occasionally
they need to come down. But you know, what I
find is that fear. A lot of people make decisions
about trees based on fear. Fear of the unknown, And
(19:36):
if you actually understand what's going on with the tree,
you know, in this case, it was kind of a
worst case scenario for this oak tree, But many other
times things are going on with the tree where yeah,
there's some branches that could fall out of it. They
can be pruned. Yes, the tree has a large canopy
(19:56):
that maybe is catching enough wind that could cause branch breakage.
But some selective branch reduction can be done to reduce
the amount of windload on a tree. I mean things
could be done to mitigate that risk down to a
lower risk. And so rather than being scared of the
unknown and just cutting a tree down that has incredible
(20:21):
ecological value and sociological value, you know, having it looked
at by a consulting arborist, by a certified arborist who
knows what they're looking at, who who is experienced in
tree preservation, can really give you a peace of mind,
can make the whole situation safer if it needs to be,
(20:44):
if that if any type of risk needs to be mitigated,
and can allow that asset to really stay there for
a long period of time, because it could. You cut
a big tree down. I've seen calculations that it can
take two hundred and fifty saplings to equal the environmental benefits.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Of one lost from the one tree, you have.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
More mature tree. And that's if the two hundred and
fifty saplings I'll survive, right, which often they don't. Almost
never happens, right, Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Let me let me ask you this. So you saw
that you were there, you saw that it had that
the problem with the disease, you know, it's the king.
Can you actually look at that and somewhat determine how long?
I mean, is that something that you needed to take
out right away? Was it still strong enough? The tree
still looked healthy enough that it could last for another
(21:37):
two or three years? I mean, when you look at
something like that, do you try to say, I think
we can pull another two or three four years out
of this before it starts to we need to get
rid of it? Or is that how do you make
that call?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, part of that is knowing what the what the
pathogen is, what the fungal organism is, right, because it's
just like with camps and people some you know, I've
had some skin cancers that are kind of minor, and
the dermatologists that said, yeah, we have to take care
of them, but if you don't, you'll be fine for years,
you know, just slowly get worse. You know, melanoma comes
(22:14):
along and it's an emergency. You know, it's kind of
same thing with this. So yes, very often we have
fungal pathogens and trees. You almost never have an older
tree that doesn't have some degree of decay in the trunk.
And trees like that can be preserved. I mean, they
(22:35):
can be worked with, and we try to make determinations
as to how extensive the decay is and things like that.
But knowing what the pathogen is and what the mode
of action is really helps us out. You know, the
brittle cindric fungus. Doctor Christopher Lully, who's a national expert
in wood decay fungi lists that is the number one
(22:58):
fungal organism that barbors should be familiar with because its
mode of action is really, really bad. So when you
find that in a tree, there's one or two trees
that I'm working with that that have it that, I'm
very cautious with them.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
But we're.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
We're fairly confident that those trees, you know, the infection
hasn't spread very far. But when I find brittle cinder fungus,
it's a major red flag, and more often than not,
i'd say those trees can't be preserved.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And if you find those in oak, and we got
to take a break here, you find those with oak
trees you're talking about, you find the more with the
red or the red oak.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
It's actually the most common in maples and beech trees.
But I don't know that I've found it in a
in a white oak that this was a pinoak that
we found it in the other day.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, because I remember one time you and I both
saw the same I'm pretty sure was a red oak
that had just the high winds and it just snapped
right at the ground and you could see that it
had been decaying. I mean it just separated, it just
fell over. I mean this thing was three feet in diameter.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And that's not Unfortunately, that's not uncommon with some of
the red oaks. But again, so people aren't unnecessarily scared.
A lot of that is a situation that can be
identified and determinations could be made by an expert who
really knows what they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And again that's where we always come back to having
somebody come out and take a look at your trees
on a regular basis, just like you go to the
doctor on a regular basis. That's the arbor doctor to
come out and take a look at them. So you
can watch for things like that and do whatever is
necessary because preservation of the tree. Will take a break,
come back, talk about why that's so important, because you know,
(24:52):
one of the things you brought up was if we
do have to finally cut that big tree down, it
takes two hundred and fifty other trees to try to
compensate for what we lost. And if we could have
saved that one big tree, how important that is, including
planning the other two hundred and fifty trees that are
out there. Talking with Ron Roethlis he's the arbor doctor.
Before we take a break, let's go to Dayton and
talk to our good buddy Dick from Dayton.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Come Onning, good morning, Good morning to your guest. Great choir, Rondon,
Ron and Denny, Ron and.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Ron and Dan. Yeah, so how you doing?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah? Did you tell him I used to work at Loaves.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
As a matter of fact, he knows. He listens to
our show all the time. And he said, of course
I know who Dick is from Dayton and he's and
we that came up. He used to work at loaves,
used to load a lot of marble chips and top
soil and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Dick is famous. We all know Dick.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
See that there you go.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Yeah, I'll tell you, Ron, it's just funny. My family
was all gardening, my uncle Carlo and my cousin Carla
k and my mom and dad did a lot. But
you know, you're from northern Ohio and she had a
big garden there and she used to bring zecchini. My
uncles did, and my cousin was around here. He came
(26:12):
down to see me and it was real nice. We
went out and saw my friend and everything. We ate
a Bob Evans. But as you know, Ron, I'm a
musician and I get to Cincinnati, Dave takes me down
and it's just it's just nice to know you people there.
And the station, high Heart Radio is beautiful down there. Well,
(26:34):
I love you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Hey Dick, my father was a professional jazz musician. He
played drums, Oh Diddy, Jeddy, Now what kind of band
he liked? Jazz, the big band, jazz, bebop jazz, That's
what he was really into. But he played his entire life.
He passed away a few years ago, but I mean
he played from the time he was in high school.
(26:57):
He played in bands around town. I think he was
playing over at the Beverly Hill Supper Club the week
before it burned down.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, well was it? So did Dixie Land. That's the
kind of music we played in Kettering. Banjo was all
on the Ohio River and it's funny, Ron, Uh, it
was on my little board out here. I was in
that ban joe group for forty one years and everybody
broke up. And now I'm playing just around, you know, retired, and.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
There's nothing wrong with that. Keep keep your neighbors, you know. Uh,
keep your neighbors happy. Play that music for them. Uh,
they're gonna appreciate that. And don't forget. Get with somebody
to find out if you can assist teaching like middle
school yuku Leley lessons, so you can get involved with
that and share your let you know, what you know
with a lot of students out there and encourage more
(27:49):
to play the ukulele. We got to go. Dick, always
a pleasure talking. You have a good day, all right,
you two different Dick from Dayton. There you go, quick break.
We come back talking with Ron Rothis he's the arbor Doc.
His website arbor doctor dot com. Got a tree question,
Ron's here for you. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Welcome back. You're in the Garden with Ron Wilson again
(28:11):
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. We're taking your calls about anything yardening.
But we do happen to have Ron rothis in the
studios with us today in house. First time since COVID
started that we've had an in house guest. Uh. We've
been doing all over the phone or yeah, on a
computer or whatever. So it's good to see his ugly
(28:34):
face in here. And uh. And I can say that
because Ron I've known each other forever, so we share
the kind of jokes with each other. I'm not joking.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I mean I am joking a face for radio. That's
what I always say about myself.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But the I started that whole but they saw me.
They said, man, that guy's got a face for radio.
But anyway, talking about tree. So if you've got a
question about any of your tree, anything that may concern you, Uh,
give us a call and Ron'll be more happy to
help you out. And of course you've got a great
website at arbordoctor dot com. I think the big thing
we're talking about and what's gonna take a break. I
want to come back aback talking about what I've been
(29:08):
seeing lately that you've been pushing big time and we've
been trying to preach and harbor and that's about planning
things too deep. But I want to follow up on
what you were saying earlier about tree preservation. And I
know you really as i've known you through all these
years and what you progress and become more knowledgeable and
all the things that you do. One of the things
that you've really become focused on is tree preservation. It
(29:31):
seems to be anyway that's like a big thing, and
I at first I was kind of like, yeah, okay,
but you know, you start to understand why and how
important it is to preserve these bigger trees. It's too
easy for somebody to move in and have these trees
that may be in a way or drop some leaves
or have a little issue, to just have them cut down,
and they don't think about the long term the effects
(29:53):
that that has by removing that or if it starts
to have a little decline like you said, that could
be treatable, could be curable, could be taken care of,
they just decide to get it taken out and how
important it is to try to preserve these larger, older trees,
to keep them around until these younger trees come up
and start to fill in the air, you know, to
(30:13):
take over for them. And trees don't last forever, obviously,
but whatever we can do to keep them going is
so important. And that's what you seem to be focusing on.
I mean, you do everything, but more and more all
the time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Absolutely, And I mean it's not just that I'm a
tree hugger and I want trees around.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
There is sign I ever camped out in a tree
to keep them. Cut it done in.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The tree now, okay, But there is science, peer reviewed
research that shows that human health, both physical health and
mental health is improved by having trees nature greenery around.
I mean, you know, less and less in a way
(31:01):
of heart attacks and quicker recovery from heart problems, from stroke,
better mental health, just all sorts of benefits. Even in
neighborhoods that have trees and greenery lower crime rates. And
there's some psychological sociological reasons that go with that too,
(31:24):
to the extent that a hospital on the west side
of Cincinnati, Mercy West Hospital, designed their entire hospital, so
that there are views out into nature from every patient
room and they have the second largest green roof in
the state of Ohio at that hospital, so that patients
are exposed to nature because the designers of that hospital
(31:46):
knew that that is beneficial to us, to our health. So,
you know, getting rid of large trees just because we
don't like a few leaves or you know, we're scared
of the tree has a lot of ramifications to our lives,
tangible ramifications. It's not it's not just that you know,
(32:07):
I love trees or I don't love trees. It's that
it really does positively impact your quality of life to
have those trees around, and the quality of life of
your community to have those trees around. So, you know,
just a wide range of of foundational reasons for that.
(32:29):
And you know, we talked before about people being scared
of trees. You know, people have all sorts of reasons
for not liking trees, including you know, leaves, Well just
multi leaves up. You don't have to spend the whole
fall raking leaves.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So I mean, there are easy ways to get rid
of them, and especially if they live next door to you. Yeah,
because you'll come and collect them up. Ron Rothinson's with
us this morning taking your calls about trees. Were also
taking your calls about any kind of yardening. Ron knows
about landscaping that as well as myself, So if you've
got other questions, great, but otherwise take advantage of having
him in the studios here this morning, and we'll talk
(33:03):
more about trees after the break. Don't forget our website,
it's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook page. In the
Garden with Ron Wilson. What's going on? What's going on
with that? Are you not there this morning to do take
care of that? Not no, you're not, but anyway check
it out and again we'll take a break to come
back taking your calls at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five Here in the Garden with Ron
(33:24):
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