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August 23, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two flat five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy talking about
yard ding. What do you say we kick off our
show with a cup of Joe Mister Joe Strekker, our
executive producer. He's in charge of our website at Ron
Wilson online dot com and Facebook page. In the garden
with Ron Wilson. Good morning, sir. Not not in the
captain's chair this morning. Nope, Daniel is back from his

(00:21):
time off. So it was a special appearance only, special
appearance only. So now Dan's in the captain's chair's back,
got his captain's hat on. He's the captain durango kid
captain thing. Yeah, I wonder where he got that. What's that?
That captain's hat looks kind of atm Maybe was he boating?
Maybe Doctor Z left that here. You know he always

(00:42):
has some goofy hats. I don't think doctor Z had
a hat like this. This is like a captain stubing
like it's a nice one thing. Yeah. Yeah, remember he
had to eat or drink more egg nog or something
that wore that all the time. Something like, Yeah, he
was kind of crazy when it comes the hat kind
of crazy doctors. He was kind of crazy. It comes

(01:03):
to hats anyway, he's listening. Oh, sure, I'm glad he is.
We got one. Well, sweetheart might be awake. I don't
think so. So it was a great week, great week
for you. You had off, you had a couple of days off,
and it wasn't too crazy with the weather. I mean

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they were predicting like one hundred and five ten heat
in nexes. I don't I don't think it hit that high.
I don't know. I wasn't here, Okay, I was out
of town. I was up in Port Clinton, put in
Bay ooh go fishing. No, it was overcast every day

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and in the seventies, low eighties, nice sprinkled every now
and then, but no big deal. Yeah. So yeah, we
did the islands up there, which I've never been up
there before. Fine, And of course kids are back in school,
so it wasn't that busy. Yeah, most of I was
forty five and up, not out of screaming, you know,
twenty five thirty year olds like it. Put in Bay
It's supposed to be pretty wild and crazy, but it

(02:09):
was fun. We had a good time. I've never been
up there before. If you've never done it before, you
gotta do it good. Two or three day fun. Speaking
of that, because I'm a member of the y. Yeah,
all this summer it was just like you were battling
the kids, you know, in the pool or in the
weight room or whatever. Monday, on my day off, I

(02:30):
went in there for half an hour. No kids, nobody
back to school. That's old people, you know what That
commercial speed was the most wonderful time of the year
that they were shopping for the kids, getting them back
to school, singing that song. I enjoy I missed our
kids when we went back to school. I don't know
about you. With Gracie and I always took I always

(02:54):
took their first day of school off so I can
get them on the bus. Yeah, I mean I enjoyed that.
But then a second I was back to here. Well yeah,
but I kind of missed the mind. We always had
fun in the summertime. So but anyway, it was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
It was hot, but it wasn't one five, one ten

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like they were predicting, And I think it was Wednesday.
It was either Tuesday or Wednesday. There was a nice
storm that came through at least by in my area.
And I mean it was like lightning thunder. I mean
it was just like it was right on top of me,
and uh, it was great. Well, it was. It was

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in the middle of the afternoon. It was like like
six seven o'clock in the afternoon. I wasn't sleeping, but
I was just like, oh, this is great, this is
so great. And then the dogs freaked out because they
deep like the thunder. But yeah, I might have been Wednesday.
I don't remember all the days kind of running together.

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It's no amazing how that happens. Yep. So that's what
I'm That's pretty much what's going on this week. Cool.
But we appreciate you filling in for Danny last weekend.
I'm sure. I'm sure Danny was appreciates it too. So
he's back and he's perky and he's ready to go.
I'm glad you guys are taking vacation time. I mean
I was always bad about that. I rarely ever used
up all my vacation well every year, so you make

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sure you do that. Well. When I was married, I
didn't listen to a lot of vacation. I usually just
took it around the holidays. Maybe like one day here
and there. And I keep on telling myself every year,
take a couple of days each month. Take a couple
of days each month. I mean I get, I mean
the heck, I get twenty four days wow vacation. So

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why not just take you know, a day here, you
know your day here and day here. And I keep
on for then next. But then October hits. I go,
oh gosh, I have two and a half weeks of
vacation still take and I have to pound it all
into the holidays. So right, yeah, two or three days
time and with a Sunday, Yeah, I usually if I

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do it, I usually do a Friday Monday. So I
get a four day by four day week, and it
gives you plenty of time. Go out and work in
the yard, take care of the grass, get all those
weeds pulled about that, but get things planted, get the
rocks put in your little area there. That's gonna that's
definitely gonna happen. Trim to slap the hogs, beat the chickens.
But but over the last couple of years, I've actually

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taken full weeks of vacation in the middle of the year.
I'm doing it again in September, so good, going back
down to Florida. Good, and I am fine in Florida. Good,
go to Gatorland and that week and that week, don't
text me, don't call me, don't do anything. I'm gonna
be busy. Oh I will. I'm sure you will, but
I'm talking about I'm not gonna answer. I always like

(05:44):
to bug you when you do that. I'm not gonna answer,
though you have before. Yeah, and then you yell at
me for well, you said you weren't gonna I do
it just to see if you're gonna answer merely. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
the website. Oh but before we do that, yes, yesterday,
I guess, I guess. I guess. You know what's coming
up in October? Halloween, late September and October. Yep, that's one.

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But it's the Giant Pumpkin Way off season. So this
is the month when it's the make or break of
the Giant Pumpkins. I don't never judge. I'm just the MC.
I don't know yet. Yeah, we scheduled to do well,
you've retired from a whole bunch of other things. I
know I'm scheduled to do that anyway, So this is

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the month that really can make or break them as
far as they're getting like forty five fifty pounds a day.
So we're going to talk to our giant pumpkin grower
a day. It's like me. It's like me when I
was on that Port Clinton this past week. But we're
gonna see where he is right now. He always gives
us an update right now before we get into that
final part of the season, and then he'll get back

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with us mid September and kind of give us say
final this is where we are, and he looks at
the general overall picture too. But Jerry Rose will be
with us this morning. We'll talk with you of course,
Gary Salvon and Buggy Joe Boggs and Danny and me
in between cool and the website is Ron Wilson Online
dot com Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson,

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and the chat room is rocket Enrolling as usual and
Buggy Joe has a couple of posts this week if
we want to check it out. Asian Longhorn Beetle Galls.
He likes calls for some reason. He's a golf like
obsessive calls and scale Magnolia scale Yep, big tent just

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now people are finally starting to see it starting to
crank up, and now's the time to get ready to
jump on it to get it under control. Check out
those posts on the on the website, the Rito's recipe
of the week. What are you going to do with
all those tomatoes? I mean, it is tomato season. I'm
sure a lot of people are picking on now they're
finally starting to cut out time. Well, she's got a
recipe for what to do with some of those tomatoes.

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It looked too Zarella gallet gallet. I don't know how
to pronounce it. All I know is I've got a
lot of tomatoes on it. It looks pretty good, looks
pretty good. I probably would eat that kind of sloppy
that's with tomato and stuff on there. But yeah, it
looks good. It looks really I made some basil on
there and everything. Yes, sure, does you know talking about food?

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You and I were commenting about frishes several months ago,
and what's happening to frishes? And you just see it
disappear on the shore of Lake Erie and Port Clinton,
Ohio is a freshest big boy nice it's the freshest
big boy first one No, it's just it is a
Frish's big boy. It's not a you know with the

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freshes tartar sauce in the whole nine yards cool. I
actually had to pull in and go, is this for real?
And here's the big boy right on the lake erie. Nice. Wow,
I gotta all the way to Port Clinton have a
big boy and a buddy boy and on that nice.
So yeah, that's kind of interesting. Huh, pretty cool, Pretty cool? Huh.
The plan of the week. Yes, the sweet autumn clematis,

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or clematis, as a old gardener used to say, mm hm,
are you the old gardener? I'm not the old gardener.
You know what I'm talking about. We just won't we
won't mention his name, but climatis es autumn clematis. Yes,
what's going on with that? Well, that's one of my favorites.
And they're just getting ready to start to show those
white flowers. Very aggressive vine. And I mentioned that probably

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five times in that whole description. But when they start
the flower for the two or three week period and
it's of Vanellas scent, it's absolutely wonderful. If you put
that on a pergola or over your garden swing over
an archway something like that. It's just a good, hearty
green vine during the season. But when it comes into

(09:51):
flower for these two weeks or so, the pollinators love it,
The bees love it. You'll love it because of the
color and the smell, and then those all I'll turn
into a seaedhead that look like spiders, silver spiders all over.
So it's a really cool vine. But again, it's very aggressive.
So wherever you put it, give it plenty of something
to grow on. A lot of folks just cut that

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thing back almost to the ground every year and let
it regrow all the time. So one of my favorites. Though.
You'll start to see it just starting to flower. Cool, Yeah,
very cool. So is that it? It seems like you're
winding down. Yeah, I am winding down because I got
to get out of here soon because I got a
football game to go to. Oh, we'll get out of
here then, mister football announcer, Well get ready for producer,

(10:32):
executive producer. Yeah, yeah, good for you. High school football
is kicking in and I got high school and then
what what will we be talking about next Saturday? Next Saturday?
High school football in Ohio State? There you go, big
game and my very special Ohio State tribute on the
on the chat on the chat room, on the Facebook pace,

(10:54):
say anything until I can't wait to see it. Yeah,
I can't wait to see it. There you go, We'll
see what happened, see what happens. But I but I'm good.
Like I told you, I think off the year last week,
I'm gonna miss it because I got a I got
a football game to do, same time, same time. Too bad. Yeah,
but I'm sure somebody will keep you updated on I'm
I'm definitely gonna keep my phone right now right there.

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She'd be doing of those numbers like that commercial a
long time. Ye are you looking at your phone? No,
you're looking at your phone. No, I'm not remember that. Yeah,
I thought that was one of the funniest commercials ever. Okay, hey,
all right, Joe Streker, our executive producer, if you like
what we see on our website, Ron Wilson Online dot com,
Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson, Joe Strecker

(11:36):
had everything to do with it. Something on there you
don't like, you don't question, you don't think should be
on there. Let's not blame Joe, blame doctor Z doctor
z Garden eighty three right Washington, d C. With a
Dodge in the National Garden. All those up there right
now or whoever is it on the streets, uh, and
the sidecar who was inside howser moved to the sidecar

(11:58):
for bowsers now in the sidecar finally, and the sweet
tart on the back seat with hugs, with hugs and kills.
There you go, all right, thank you, Joseph eight hundred
a two three eight two five five here in the
garden with Ron Wilson and the Duringo kid. Welcome back

(12:21):
here in the garden with Ron Wilson again. That toll
free number would be eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardening and uh, yes, as
you caught there talking with Joe Strucker. I was off
this week. So if you emailed me this week, I
did not respond to you, not because I don't like you,

(12:42):
not because I'm tired of responding, because I wasn't there
to respond. I did check a few yesterday to see
I mean, I got a ton, so I will work
hard to get caught back up again. Uh. But uh,
you know, if I didn't, if you didn't hear from me,
that's because I was out and we took at a
little old trip and you know, we've been doing this

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my wife. I haven't traveled much over the last several
years because I work a lot, and obviously and I'm
here on Saturdays and all of that, but been doing
some local things, you know, within your own state, and
it's amazing what you find within your own state that
you had no idea. And we last year did the
northeastern part of Ohio along the lake, and then this

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year we did the northwestern part of Ohio, a lake
area along the lake there west of Sandusky area, and
good friend Teresa Parker gave me all kinds of links
and things and places to go and see and so
kind of got it started, and we went up there
and just had a tremendous time. And if you live
in Ohio and you've never done that before, you should

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check it out. If you were in a surrounding state
and you're looking for some place to go and you
liked it and you like the lake, if you like
doing the you know, the lake scene, it's pretty cool.
And the think about that area is that you know,
you were along the lake, of course, along the shoreline,
but then they have the islands out away from the

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shoreline put In Bay. You probably heard of that. The
Bass Islands. I think there's a south north, Middle Bass Island,
Kelly's Island. I mean, there's a bunch of them out there.
You can get right the ferry out to these islands
with your Some of them you can take your car.
Some of them you can't with your car, or you'd
have a jet Express which is one of those huge

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jet boats that seats about you know, one hundred and
fifty people and that skims across. And I'll tell you what,
when you're out in the middle of that lake area,
you know, it's it's it's like you think you're in
the ocean. It's so big. But you know, that white
caps and the whole nine yards. It was just a
fun time. And I always, of course, when I do
something like that, I always look at the plant palette

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that's there, and of course they're a you know, they
have the lakefront effect there, but basically they're still in
the six zone six that you would see, you know,
in our area in southern Ohio, although we were starting
to see a little bit of seven. But with the
lake effect around the Cleveland area, you actually have a
little bit of a couple of pockets as own seven
up there, but basically a six, so as you look

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at the plant palette that's there, basically the same of
what we see in our own landscapes here. But what
I did enjoy while I was up there, that we
don't see as much anymore in our landscapes here Austrian pine,
one of my favorites. I love the look of Austrian pine.
And the problem is in our area, even into central Ohio,

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the stress they get, they just I think they just
come with tip blight and it. You know, the tip's
always browning and dying back, and sometimes they don't die
all the way, but they just look bad all the
time you ares cleaning them out and all. So you
don't see Austrian pine solder planted much in our area
Central Ohio. But you get up to northern Ohio doing
a little bit better, and so I got to see

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some nice sized Austrian pine, which I absolutely love. And
the other one in which I forget that we have
lost so many in our area thanks to the needle
diseases in course brought on by the stress, the drought,
the heat, et cetera, et cetera is Colorado blue spruce.
You know, most of the nurseries in our area now,
southern Ohio and the surrounding areas have stopped growing Colorado

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blue spruce because we were losing so many due to
the needle diseases again, which were set up for the
fact that the way the weather, the stress on the
plant sets it up for more susceptibility to these needle diseases. So, uh,
you know, so we don't see as many anymore. They're
still out there, but not like what I saw up there,
and they looked really, really nice. So it's always fun

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to look at the plant palette, you know, when you
go to other places, especially if they're kind of close
to what you are, and see what's going on there.
We'll talk more about that. Got lots of tips to share.
Taking your calls at eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. It's all happening here in the garden
with Ron Wilson. Welcome back here in the garden with
Ron Wilson again that toll free number eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five. Talking about yarding. As

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we are winding down the summer, getting ready to go
into the fall, months. Fall is the just an outstanding
time for planting, an outstanding time for lawn renovation, cool
season lawns, you know, et cetera, et cetera. And think
about this, you just think about fall planting. Look how
long the planting season can go. That's all weather penning,

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just like gardening is period. But he got September, he
got October, You got November for the most part, and
in some cases even into December and to the end
of December, depending on when Mother Nature decides to bring
some cool weather and cold weather in. So you wind
up with three maybe four months of gardening time during

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the fall season. And it's a great time for planting
because the plants love it. They're shutting down, but they
start developing more roots in the fall than ever. That's
why one of the reasons why it's one of the
most important times for planting or great time for planting,
especially when it comes to trees and shrubs and evergreens
and things like that. So we'll talk more about that
we get into it. But I was talking earlier about
doing a little vacaea up in the northern Ohio and

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the Port Clinton area and enjoying the plant palette and
pretty much the same as what we have here. But
what's interesting there is as we got out driving around
up out into the some of the islands and looking around,
you know, it's humid air because of the lake obviously,
so you've always got a lot of moisture in that

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air with the air blowing and all. And plants look
pretty darn good. So I think they've had decent moisture rainfall.
Plants looked pretty good, lawns look pretty good. But as
you drove around, there was one particular tree, and they
had some huge trees there. One particular tree was brown

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as could be, and they stood out like a sore thumb.
And they're scattered all along the shoreline and up on
the islands. And that's the buckeye, different types of buckeye,
yellow buckeye. A lot of them looked like yellow buckeyes
as big as they were, but just brown as can be.
And it's one of one of Joe Boggs, I think
one of his favorite leaf diseases, although it's on the buckeyes,

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but it's Gignardia leaf blotch and it just turns them
a chocolate brown and they stand out like a sore
thumb right now, and it looks like they're going into
the fall color. And I had mentioned that to my wife.
I said, you notice all these trees here and there
that are all turning brown. She said, I thought it
was like either their natural color or getting ready to

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go in the fall color. And that's what that is.
And so the good thing about that is it doesn't
kill the tree. They go through this every year. They
drop the leaves early. They were dropping right now, so
they'll drop all of those leaves and then they'll kick
out a whole new set next year and have at
it through the entire summer season, and that kicks in
and turns them all brown again, but loaded with buckeyes,

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and they look good. The trees look great. They were big,
and a lot of them, but just cinnamon brown from
the from the leaf blotch, not scorch, but from leaf blotch,
an actual leaf disease. So that was kind of interesting
to see as well. And you know, otherwise, looking around
was pretty neat and I enjoyed it and it was

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a fun time and if you've never done it before,
you need to check it out. And that's all of
the Port Clinton. Port Clinton area. We stayed out on Marblehead,
which is the tip of that peninsula there, which is
really cool. You look across the bay and you see
Cedar Point, which was kind of cool at nighttime when
it was all lit up. It was a lot of fun.
So put that on your bucket list. If you've never

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been there, be sure and check it out. By the way,
while we were there, and when you're around lakes like that, mayflies.
You know, that's a natural thing. You get mayflies, and
you know, there's times that there more than times there's less,
and et cetera. And a couple of times while we
were driving we actually hit a few pockets of mayflies.
And the last morning that we were there, we were

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back into Port Clinton picking something up that we wanted
to get from one of the stores there, and I
was looking at a wall of a building and there
were barn swallows. And you know what I'm talking about
with the barn swallows. There were barn swallows that were
like flying up against the wall with their wings out
flapping and actually resting up against the wall while they

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were flying, and they were kind of moving along the wall.
There was like twenty or thirty of them, and so
I had to get out and find out what the
heck they were doing. Well, there were mayflies all over
this wall where they had the whole batch had come
here and just landed on this wall, and they were
picking them off, just like rows of them, and they
were it was the coolest thing ever. So they just

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flew got up against the wall and just flew sideways,
eating as many mayflies as they could, and they'd fly
around a little bit, come back and do it again.
Kind of interesting. That's the kind of things I do
when I'm taking a little break on vacation. But it
was it was interesting to see that and enjoy it.
But anyway, I had a good time and I enjoy it.
And if you've never done it, put that one on
your bucket list to go up and then check it out.

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And you've always got to lead them to the left
and you got Cleveland to the right and other things
to do in between. So lots of things to do
up there, so and the boat rides and the ferry
rides and all that were a lot of fun. The
islands are great to visit. Get a golf cart and
drive around all day, and it was fun and enjoyed it.
Uh So good deal. All right, before we take Aburak,
what do you say we go to day and talk

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to our good friend Dick. Dick, good morning, Hey, good morning,
bron All that was hey, good to talk to you boy.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
That's uh talking about my you know, my family was
some up in that air northern Ohio.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well guess we're I guess we wound up going Olmsted
Falls over by where your family's from.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, Carla, Carla the garden.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yep, that's right.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, you like that area up there.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, we've got some good friends in Olmsted Falls. That's
a really nice town. I mean really nice area. So so, yeah,
good area. Now were you raised? Were you raised there
up in that area?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, it was.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
It was a little town near Ashland and Oberland, Wellington, Ohio.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, that's near Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
You goes fifty eight toward Madina, right, it's and you go, uh,
if you go straight fifty eight, you have to turn
because they've come Route two and it goes to Lorraine
where I used to see you know, the freighters come
in and they and you're speaking of up in that area.
I have some friends up there down and her crew

(23:30):
always sent me some Eredy County Visitors Bureau about the
Lake Erie Islands. And I used to go with my
aunt and uncle. We used to go up there, you know,
put In Bay. It's beautiful up.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
There, you know it sure is now of course they've
got the golf carts and you drive around and see
all the homes. It's it's a lot of fun. I
really enjoyed it so good time. Yeah, yeah, I got
I got a question for you. You know, you're you're
such a musician and you play the ukulele and the
banjo and whatever you can get your hands on. Have
you ever played and I they's got several names, but

(24:04):
a jaw harp? No, you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, I do, okay, all right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Because I've got one and my grandfather taught me and
I just found it the other day. I put it
away and I just found in my grand well. I
used to play it all the time. My grandfather taught
me how to play when I was a kid, and
he bought that for me and I still have it.
And I you know, if you're not if you don't,
if you aren't careful, you can chip a tooth. Ye.
But yeah, I still still remember how to play it.

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I thought, I wonder if Dick's ever played one of these.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, but it's so good to hear you guys. You know,
I'm keep an act. They playing music down here good
with Heather and uh yeah trade and I played outside
and it just it's just you know, Heather every day.
Come on, Dick, So I've been playing for the people
up here.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Buddy good. Excellent. Well tell her, tell her you want
to set up some container gardens outside and then you
can go play music while everybody's working under container gardens.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, that's what she was talking about. You read her mind.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
There you go. You entertain them while they while they
garden and their containers. Yeah, we have a good week,
all right, Dick, good talking. Will you take care?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
By quick break we come back phone lines threw up
a few by the way. Coming up at the bottom
of our next hour, our giant pumpkin grower Jerry Rose
is going to join us. We're going to find out
where his giant pumpkins are at this stage because the
way offs all start in October, usually late September and
then then into October, so we'll see where he is

(25:37):
right now. But this month and you'll be amazed. Is
like the key month, one of the key months, because
they're expanding so quickly right now, it's crazy. So we'll
find out how well his are expanding and what he's
seeing around the country. As far as giant pumpkins. By
the way, that I think the record that the world
record they're still trying to break is two thousand, seven

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hundred and forty nine pounds a twenty seven hundred pound pumpkin.
That's a lot of pumpkin. Eight hundred eight two three
eight two fivety five. Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (26:28):
Talking. Yardening eight hundred eight two three eight two five.
Five summers starting to wind. Down kids back to, school
college's kids are moving in back to. SCHOOL i mean
the college football starts kicks off next. Week the pros
start here in a few. Weeks fall season is. Here
as a matter of, fact the meteorological fall starts the

(26:48):
first Of September, September, October, november and the meteorological winter
starts the first Of, december so you, know technically we're
about a week away from the start of the fall,
season and of course fall being such an excellent time
to get out and do planting and lawn renovation for
cool season. Lawns AND i bring this up because if,

(27:09):
you by chance are looking at your lawn right now
and you, say you know, what our lawn is fifty percent,
weeds fifty percent grass or more in, weeds it's probably
time to do a total lawn. Renovation and the best
time to do a total lawn renovation is not in
the winter and not in the, spring but in the. Fall.

(27:32):
Now it can be done in the, spring but you
deal with a lot more weeds and other, issues and
timing can be late depending on the, weather et, cetera et.
Cetera and then if you get into a hot summer
and this is a new, lawn it could be a tough.
Situation but cool season grass is in the, fall starting In,
september seating In, september get, up, grow root, in and

(27:55):
you will just be totally amazed what they will look
like by the time you get Into. December so they
continue to grow as long as those seal temperatures are
staying you, know fifty forty up or forties fifty degrees,
plus they continue to root in and continue to. Grow
so by seeding in the actually right now through the

(28:16):
month Of, september maybe Early, october but sooner the better
to get it up and. Growing you, know is it's
the best. Time so you look out there and maybe
maybe you have a lawn that needs total, renovation or
maybe you have a lawn that you know has large
patches of crab grass or other things that have moved
in that you just need to kill out totally and

(28:38):
start all over. Again in many cases that's the best
way to do. It there are some broad leaf weed
killers out there that you can spot treat and come
back to weeks later and put seed. Down Furtilome's high
yield Fur Lome Weed Freeze zone will do. That Bonn
eye's Weed Beater ultra is that. Way you can actually

(29:00):
reced after a couple of weeks with spot. Treating but you,
know if that's the, case what you might want to,
Do if that's just a spot treat here in, there
just wait on, that do your, seating, slice, seating overseating or,
whatever and then spot treat those weeds In. October by
then the new grass seat is up and. Growing you've
probably moted two or three times mid to Late, october

(29:21):
and that's one of the best times for going after
weeds in the lawn with a weed. Killer as a
matter of, fact Creeping charlie tough. One as somebody emailed
me this week and, said, hey you, KNOW i did
what you suggested about Creeping charlie still Got i'm still
dealing with. It and the thing with Creeping charlie sometimes
called ground ivy a lawn, ivy it's a tough. One you,

(29:47):
know he's got. Rhizomes he can come back from, seed
can be very. Aggressive only moves in where the lawn
is thinned or is bear so it only moves in
where the lawns thinned. Out so if you get the
lawn taking back up, Again charlie can't compete with the,
lawn but getting rid of it can be kind of.
Tough the best time to go after Creeping charlie with

(30:08):
just a broad leave we killer is actually a mint
in Late, october and you spray him once or twice
at that time of the, year does a pretty good
knockback and you don't see much Of charlie when we
start getting into the spring season where it starts to
green back up. Again so do keep that in. Mind
but my point being is if you need to kill
out areas full of crabgrass or, whatever you want to

(30:28):
just go in and kill it all, out start all over.
Again now's the time to spray with your non selective
vegetation killers to get that stuff. Dead so you're ready
to go once we get To. September as far as
seating and the products you would use for, that they're obviously,
organic all natural products made out of fatty acids of

(30:49):
soap and some other products as well that will burn.
Vinegars one of them that will burn the foliage, off
usually doesn't do much of a job on the root,
system but we'll burn the tops off for. You you
can come in and do. It and remember crabgrass is an.
Annual once it's, dead it's. Dead what it comes back
from is from seed in the. Springtime so but once

(31:09):
you kill, it it's done all. Right that particular plant is,
dead so you can use, those but it just again
for perennial, weeds it only kills the tops off and not the.
Roots SO i STILL i still use. Glyphosate you, know
it used to be round up or Fertiloms kills. All
Round up has. CHANGED i bring this up for every

(31:31):
show BECAUSE i want to remind everybody that it's a
different formula than what it used to. Be it's now
three different types of vegetation. Killers the limitations on when
you can come back and, reseed, replant et, cetera et
cetera are different than the original round up label with,
glyphosate so make sure you read the labels see what

(31:52):
the limitations. Are it is no longer that one is
no longer recommended to be used around vegetable, gardens which
you could spot treat glyphus in vegetable. Gardens so if
you want to stick with the glyphos, sate you want
to continue to use. That fertile Ome kills all still
has the glyphosate all, Right so you can go go

(32:13):
to your local independent garden center because that's the only
place you'll find fertile own. Products get that and, then
of course you know it takes a while to kill everything,
out so you want to get it on as soon as.
Possible you want to try to give it a week
or so to start to brown things. Out make sure
you've killed it out so that by that time we're
now Into, september perfect time to come. In you can
mow it down, low just leave that stuff there and

(32:35):
slice or slit seed right through. It put your seed
into the soil and you're good thet's start a. Fertilizer
you're good to. Go core air, rating same, way and
you can do that before you do your slice. Seating all,
right core air, Rate maybe rake in a little, compost
fill in those, holes then come back and do your.
Seating start a, fertilizer get the moisture to, it and

(32:55):
you're good to. Go so you, know keep that in
mind because that's coming. Up and if you have to
kill things, out now's the time to jump on. It
speaking of grass seat, Questions dave And, Glendale good, Morning,
hey how you doing? Good sern? Yourself, great good. Topic
good my.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Lawn my lawn is exactly what you're talking, about probably
one hun.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Grass and this has got to be the best year
for CRAGGRASS i Think i've ever.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Seen i'm telling you WHAT i want to do an
experiment this. Year i'm gonna. TRY i want to get
some grass seed AND i want to know AND i
want to put a NICE i want my lawn to look.
Nice so what kind of there's different varieties of, grass seat, right,
right what what would you? Like what would you put?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Up if it were my lawn AND i was going
to start all over, AGAIN i would use the turf
type tall. Fescue i'm going to write this. Down turf
type tall, fescue, Okay and there are. Many you'll find
many blends out there of turf type tall. Fescues you'll

(34:04):
find single like a fine. Lawn you'll find that bite
sold by, itself or you'll find two or three mixed
together in a. Blend AND i like the blends where
they have two or three or. FOUR i used to
be one out there that was had five different ones in.
There BUT i like the blend of turf type tall.
Fascues now occasionally you'll also see they'll throw, in, UH

(34:27):
i don't, know five or ten, percent a little bit
of bluegrass or perennial rides for the printer ride for
a quick, start the bluegrass as a. Rhizomer BUT i
don't look for. THAT i just want the turf type tall.
Fescue and that stuff takes sun or. Shade it's deep,
rooted very drought. Tolerant when that goes, dormant you, know
it's really drought and dry out, there and leaf disease brown,

(34:51):
patch we do see that, occasionally but it doesn't kill it.
Out it comes right back. Again so, overall to, me
the turf type tall fascues would be the best choice
of seed that you can use and get a, blend
not just a single stand a. Board, okay all, right, Okay.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
I'm up against the, BREAK i, think, well.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yep and let me, Know, david how it turns out for.
You all, right all, right good talking with. You how
do you know we were up against the? Break you
must listen to our. Show there you? Go Or dan
gave him a SIGNAL i love it. Anyway he just
knew there are different types of grass seed out, there
there's no doubt about. It and is there one best grass?
Seed not, necessarily you, know it depends on the, environment

(35:34):
what you're trying to, do et, cetera et. Cetera but for,
me in The midwest and even into the to the
south east and some of the southern st there's a
transition period where you finally get into the warm seas
and grasses turf type tall fescues to me is the
icing on the. CAKE i think they do the, best
lower maintenance than the blue, grass the premial rise in.
That so that's the ONE i look. For turf type

(35:55):
tall fescues eight hundred eight two three eight two five
Five here in the garden With Ron will
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