October 18, 2025 • 14 mins
Jazzman sits down as the pair talk the future of the PGA post Ryder Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Enjoy this podcast version of The Golf Show from sports
Radio AM seven.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Sixty The Ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now from sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket. This
is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf Show
brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's Golf Academy,
and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on the first
t Andy Everett.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well, good morning. You've got David Munyoktein for Andy Everett.
Andy the longtime voice of UTSA Athletics on the road
up in North Texas. As Runners take on North Texas
today at two thirty pregame at twelve thirty. Catch all
the action right here on sports Radio AM seven sixty
The Ticket. Shane Carter, our producer. Of course, Shane is
part of a show that airs on The Ticket every
Sunday morning. Shane, what is the name of the show,
(00:50):
What time does it start?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
It is The Fanatics every Sunday ten a aternoon here
on tickets, SAMSAC or the free Art radio app. And
this Sunday we were doing heavily, heavily preview an the
San Antonio Spurs, talking a lot of college football and
of course our weekly NFL picks.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Very good.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
This is a golf show, but I do want to
mention that I think that Spurs are going to be
much improved this year. I believe that they're going to
make the playoffs as long as they stay healthy. I
believe they're going to be a very nice, quiet surprise,
kind of flying under the radar, if you will, just
my thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I think so too. I think I'll talk about it
more with my co host Dylan Emery, but we're talking
about potentially this Spurs being a six seed team by
the end.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Of it, especially because they have a very favorable schedule the.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
First three months of the season. Very cool, all right,
It is a golf show. We're going to have a
full show today, four guests, four segments, including this first one.
Well before I get to that. First of all.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
On the PGA Tour, it is a baker and Classic
that was played last week in Japan. Xander Shofley won
the event with the final score of nineteen under par.
On the LPGA Tour, the BMW Ladies Championship being played
in Korea this weekend. Say Young Kim as a ford
shot lead after three rounds. She's in at nineteen under
par and on the Champions Tour. It is a Dominion
Energy Charity Classic being played. After one round, Justin Leonard,
(02:06):
Steve Allen and Ernie Els share the lead at six
under par. Now we turn our attention to our guests.
First of all, the very esteemed gentleman, the fine gentleman
that he is. His name is John Hagen. John, good morning.
How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I am just fine waiting for the sun here so
we can go play some golf, hopefully very good.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Before we get to the point that we are going
to chat about. You know, one of the things that
I see every time that you email me is something
that is a very very positive thing. One of the
things that you learned about me over the years is
that I always say, what, Jimmy Valvano did you know?
You know, Jimmy v don't give up, don't ever give up.
But you have a line that is under your signature
on your email. Tell them listeners what that line is.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Those who say it cannot be done, should not those
of us who are doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
There you go, those let's say it can that be dectionally?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
I said that a little incorrectly. Those who say it
cannot be done, should not interrupt those who are doing it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
We've come across so many people that just have a
negative outlin you know, just in life in general, and
golf of course is one of those things that can
make you feel somewhat negative because there's so many things
that you have to remember about your swing and so forth.
But you know, if you do the things right that
you're taught, you're going to do well. Now, one of
the things that we're going to be chatting about, even
though it was a few weeks ago, it was, you know,
(03:30):
the Ryder Cup, which you know the USA lost. They
made a valiant effort on Sunday to cut back and
the singles. I thought that they might run the table
and overtake Team Europe, but they didn't. But there are
some things that you've sent me that I'd like for
you to go ahead and start out this morning. Regarding
the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Well, I think, first of all, there are some real
problems with the course set up. Bet Page, as we
all know, is when it's set up for US open conditions,
is one of the most difficult horses that displayed on
any tour, and they set it up this time as
a piece of cake. They really wanted everybody to be
(04:08):
bombing their drives and they all do, and they wanted
it to be a wedge and a putt course, and
that's what they got. They forgot that the Europeans, all
things considered, are better with the short clubs, meaning the
wedges and the putter, and that really proved to be
(04:28):
the frosting on the cake afterwards. There were, for instance,
two weeks before that, during Walker Cup, the European team
first two rounds on Cyprus Point, they did not have
their golf bags with them. They took a sack of balls,
(04:50):
a putter in a wedge and that's how they went
around for the first two practice rounds. Plus there were
some of the Ryder Cup people that did the same thing.
They knew they had that edge and if they could
keep it in the fair way they could win it,
which they did.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
John Hagen is our guest.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Now, I believe you also mentioned something about the captain
Luke Donald helping to set up his players on Team
Europe for any kind of sound, because we all know
that the fans in that area of the country, not
all fans, but the fans up in the Northeast are
rather boisterous, rather vociferous, and he was trying to prepare
his team in a certain way that I did not
(05:30):
know until I saw that email from you.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Yeah, he got wind of the fact that the PGA
thought that the crowd was going to be a real
influence like it is in many sporting events for the
home team, and that meant noise. And then when he
found out that the area between seventeen and eighteen, which
(05:54):
was really designed just to hold twenty thousand or so spectators,
was holding forty four thousand, he knew that was going
to be a factor. So he went out went to
Apple and got their headsets, their three D headsets, and
they practiced a lot playing golf with those headsets on,
(06:18):
and the noise and calamity and commercials and yelling and
screaming and everything going on, and it proved to be
a factor.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
John Hagen is our guest chatting about some of the
things that went on at the Ryder Cup a few
weeks back. Now, what about you know, Kegan Bradley, What
do you think about him and how he did in
this year at this at this Ryder Cup.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Well, I think he made some serious errors, particularly in
this in the Sunday pairing, sending out people in the
same pairing that had not done well the day before.
The American team just wasn't prepared as Luke Donald had
his team. Luke has been on the masthead of Ryder
(07:04):
Cup now for almost two years, and the American captain
did have what did he have six months if that
to put the team together and get them to get
out of there. If you will, golfing minds as individuals
and work as a team. It's that's a change. It
needs to be made. And whoever the next captain is,
(07:27):
and I would vote right now today for Jordan Speith
because he's very intellectual, he's a good player, he's got
the confidence of everyone on tour, and I think if
he's or someone like him were given the time, that
we would go back to being invincible. We haven't won
(07:50):
on the road, if you will, in always matches since
nineteen ninety three. It's hard to believe, but there you
have it, twelve years.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
John Hagen is our guest. Johnny, you did mention that
your vote right now is for Jordan's Speed to be
the next Wider Cup captain of the US team. Do
you look at him as being the captain in a
non playing roller, or as being part of the team
as a player as well.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
No, I think the days of the player captain are gone.
You know, there's always the conversation that says Tiger ought
to be a captain. Well, the powers to be know
that Tiger takes up too much air and there's too
many direction distractions from being properly prepared when you've got
(08:38):
Tiger around. So if you get a guy like speak,
it's well known and respected in the clubhouse now, and
then you get the Tigers and other people like him
in lesser roles. They have no vanity at the end
of the day. Really, they just want America to win.
I think that would be a hell combination.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
John Hagen is our guest chatting about the results of
the Ryder Cup and other things that have been going
on in the world of golf. John, you know you
and I have known each other now a long time.
How do you see the state of golf the way
that it is today. Sure, we had Rory not winning
the entire Grand slimuntil this year when he finally won
the Masters. Several years ago, we saw Jordan Spieth in
the lead at the Masters, and then he hit two
balls into Race Creek and from that point on it
(09:24):
was just nothing since then. And you know, my money
is still, of course on Scotti Shuffler. I believe he's
going to be around in very very fine fashion for
quite a while to come. But how do you see
the overall state of golf today, Well, I think.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
It's very healthy. We've had the luxury and it truly
is that of seeing five levels of golf in California
on an international level, and other than looking at a
sixteen year old who's coming out of first tee or
another program and looking at somebody on the tour, their
(10:00):
swings are the same. The only it's not sarcasm, but
the only way you can tell the difference between the
two of them is one is taller than the other.
And that proved to be the case even with a junior.
Ryder Cup, the sixteen year old when three all went oh.
She played in a tournament on Pebble Beach a couple
(10:22):
of months ago. Eighteenth hole, she had driver over the
big tree that all of your audience will know about.
Had two hundred and thirty two yards into the green,
hit a three iron and made eagle and you take
that and you add up some other examples like that.
(10:43):
I think the state of golf is where the state
of tennis was in the seventies, when when the Florida
tennis camps and schools started in putting people together that
became international stars in a hurry. That's happening. Now we've
got two great amateurs, you know, are finishing in the
(11:03):
top five or top ten on the tour. Now one
of them is this guy Clanton and the other one
is Coiven, and they can beat anybody right now.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
John Hagen is our guest.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
John one final comment regarding the Ryder Cup and golf.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I believe it was golf. I just I believe it was.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I read an article that Gary Player says, quote the
Ryder Cup as a shambles unquote.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
I don't understand why Gary made that comment. Actually I
know him quite well and that doesn't sound like him.
But if he was talking about being a shambles, you know,
he's a pure golfer. You go out with him and
he's like Lee Trevino. He's fun in games until those
(11:55):
three seconds when he gets ready to make that swing
and he doesn't like crowds. It never grew up with
those crowds. He didn't grow up with that kind of
attention the game is getting, like the New Yorkers gave
at the other extreme to Ryder Cup.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Now, being being from South Africa, he was not ever
you know, an actual player on the Ryder Cup because
it was Team Europe, so he was he was forced
to watch every two years and so forth and so on.
But you know, the way that the crowd behaved that
that weekend at the Ryder Cup. It was just very bad,
of course, and yes, some of the players were shouting
back at some of the fans, which to me, of
(12:35):
course is very uncalled for as well. But you can
only take debait for so long, and sooner or later
you might fold into that pressure and respond. But you know,
I mean, we're only human. No one is more human
than the other person the way that I see it,
And if you hear enough, you know, any type of
verbal abuse, sooner or later, you might cave. I'm not
saying that everybody would, but you might, and some of
the players did in that particular case. And I think
(12:57):
that's what Gary was alluding to when he said that
it's a shambles.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Well, I think that's probably true. You know, you can
everyone has their opinions these days. Heavens, we know that
from the papers every day. But you can still do
it with respect. You can still have respect for the game.
You might be picking on McElroy for instance, as an individual,
but let's not confuse McEnroe with the quality of the game.
(13:24):
And that's what they were really, that's what really made
me angry about whether they were just they were compromising.
Golf as an entertainment sport is a wonderful family event,
and it's wonderful entertainment to be out there walking for
six seven miles, which most of them don't do anyway,
(13:47):
and seeing the game for what it is and what
it does contribute to the living of life.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
If you will, John Hagen, it's always a pleasure having
you on. Before we do wrap up here in the
final seconds, what's the update on your new book coming.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Out spring next year. So we're pretty happy about that.
And one of parts of it have been optioned by
a motion picture company, so it may even make that
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It and the name of the book.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
And it's been an interesting fall, let's put it that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Way, and the name of the book.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Is Pebble Beach and Other Foibles.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'll make sure to get my copy when it comes out.
John Hagen, it's always a pleasure having your answer.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It is a ticket, Seve at sixty golf show coming up.
Nets will be chatting with a gentleman from Canyon Springs
and chatting about club fittings and so forth, putters and wedges.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
We'll have Mark J. Caldwell on here in just a
couple of minutes
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Enjoy this podcast version of The Golf Show from sports
Radio AM seven.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Sixty The Ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now from sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket. This
is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf Show
brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's Golf Academy,
and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on the first
t Andy Everett.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well, good morning. You've got David Munyoktein for Andy Everett.
Andy the longtime voice of UTSA Athletics on the road
up in North Texas. As Runners take on North Texas
today at two thirty pregame at twelve thirty. Catch all
the action right here on sports Radio AM seven sixty
The Ticket. Shane Carter, our producer. Of course, Shane is
part of a show that airs on The Ticket every
Sunday morning. Shane, what is the name of the show,
(00:50):
What time does it start?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
It is The Fanatics every Sunday ten a aternoon here
on tickets, SAMSAC or the free Art radio app. And
this Sunday we were doing heavily, heavily preview an the
San Antonio Spurs, talking a lot of college football and
of course our weekly NFL picks.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Very good.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
This is a golf show, but I do want to
mention that I think that Spurs are going to be
much improved this year. I believe that they're going to
make the playoffs as long as they stay healthy. I
believe they're going to be a very nice, quiet surprise,
kind of flying under the radar, if you will, just
my thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I think so too. I think I'll talk about it
more with my co host Dylan Emery, but we're talking
about potentially this Spurs being a six seed team by
the end.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Of it, especially because they have a very favorable schedule the.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
First three months of the season. Very cool, all right,
It is a golf show. We're going to have a
full show today, four guests, four segments, including this first one.
Well before I get to that. First of all.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
On the PGA Tour, it is a baker and Classic
that was played last week in Japan. Xander Shofley won
the event with the final score of nineteen under par.
On the LPGA Tour, the BMW Ladies Championship being played
in Korea this weekend. Say Young Kim as a ford
shot lead after three rounds. She's in at nineteen under
par and on the Champions Tour. It is a Dominion
Energy Charity Classic being played. After one round, Justin Leonard,
(02:06):
Steve Allen and Ernie Els share the lead at six
under par. Now we turn our attention to our guests.
First of all, the very esteemed gentleman, the fine gentleman
that he is. His name is John Hagen. John, good morning.
How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I am just fine waiting for the sun here so
we can go play some golf, hopefully very good.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Before we get to the point that we are going
to chat about. You know, one of the things that
I see every time that you email me is something
that is a very very positive thing. One of the
things that you learned about me over the years is
that I always say, what, Jimmy Valvano did you know?
You know, Jimmy v don't give up, don't ever give up.
But you have a line that is under your signature
on your email. Tell them listeners what that line is.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Those who say it cannot be done, should not those
of us who are doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
There you go, those let's say it can that be dectionally?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
I said that a little incorrectly. Those who say it
cannot be done, should not interrupt those who are doing it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
We've come across so many people that just have a
negative outlin you know, just in life in general, and
golf of course is one of those things that can
make you feel somewhat negative because there's so many things
that you have to remember about your swing and so forth.
But you know, if you do the things right that
you're taught, you're going to do well. Now, one of
the things that we're going to be chatting about, even
though it was a few weeks ago, it was, you know,
(03:30):
the Ryder Cup, which you know the USA lost. They
made a valiant effort on Sunday to cut back and
the singles. I thought that they might run the table
and overtake Team Europe, but they didn't. But there are
some things that you've sent me that I'd like for
you to go ahead and start out this morning. Regarding
the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Well, I think, first of all, there are some real
problems with the course set up. Bet Page, as we
all know, is when it's set up for US open conditions,
is one of the most difficult horses that displayed on
any tour, and they set it up this time as
a piece of cake. They really wanted everybody to be
(04:08):
bombing their drives and they all do, and they wanted
it to be a wedge and a putt course, and
that's what they got. They forgot that the Europeans, all
things considered, are better with the short clubs, meaning the
wedges and the putter, and that really proved to be
(04:28):
the frosting on the cake afterwards. There were, for instance,
two weeks before that, during Walker Cup, the European team
first two rounds on Cyprus Point, they did not have
their golf bags with them. They took a sack of balls,
(04:50):
a putter in a wedge and that's how they went
around for the first two practice rounds. Plus there were
some of the Ryder Cup people that did the same thing.
They knew they had that edge and if they could
keep it in the fair way they could win it,
which they did.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
John Hagen is our guest.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Now, I believe you also mentioned something about the captain
Luke Donald helping to set up his players on Team
Europe for any kind of sound, because we all know
that the fans in that area of the country, not
all fans, but the fans up in the Northeast are
rather boisterous, rather vociferous, and he was trying to prepare
his team in a certain way that I did not
(05:30):
know until I saw that email from you.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Yeah, he got wind of the fact that the PGA
thought that the crowd was going to be a real
influence like it is in many sporting events for the
home team, and that meant noise. And then when he
found out that the area between seventeen and eighteen, which
(05:54):
was really designed just to hold twenty thousand or so spectators,
was holding forty four thousand, he knew that was going
to be a factor. So he went out went to
Apple and got their headsets, their three D headsets, and
they practiced a lot playing golf with those headsets on,
(06:18):
and the noise and calamity and commercials and yelling and
screaming and everything going on, and it proved to be
a factor.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
John Hagen is our guest chatting about some of the
things that went on at the Ryder Cup a few
weeks back. Now, what about you know, Kegan Bradley, What
do you think about him and how he did in
this year at this at this Ryder Cup.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Well, I think he made some serious errors, particularly in
this in the Sunday pairing, sending out people in the
same pairing that had not done well the day before.
The American team just wasn't prepared as Luke Donald had
his team. Luke has been on the masthead of Ryder
(07:04):
Cup now for almost two years, and the American captain
did have what did he have six months if that
to put the team together and get them to get
out of there. If you will, golfing minds as individuals
and work as a team. It's that's a change. It
needs to be made. And whoever the next captain is,
(07:27):
and I would vote right now today for Jordan Speith
because he's very intellectual, he's a good player, he's got
the confidence of everyone on tour, and I think if
he's or someone like him were given the time, that
we would go back to being invincible. We haven't won
(07:50):
on the road, if you will, in always matches since
nineteen ninety three. It's hard to believe, but there you
have it, twelve years.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
John Hagen is our guest. Johnny, you did mention that
your vote right now is for Jordan's Speed to be
the next Wider Cup captain of the US team. Do
you look at him as being the captain in a
non playing roller, or as being part of the team
as a player as well.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
No, I think the days of the player captain are gone.
You know, there's always the conversation that says Tiger ought
to be a captain. Well, the powers to be know
that Tiger takes up too much air and there's too
many direction distractions from being properly prepared when you've got
(08:38):
Tiger around. So if you get a guy like speak,
it's well known and respected in the clubhouse now, and
then you get the Tigers and other people like him
in lesser roles. They have no vanity at the end
of the day. Really, they just want America to win.
I think that would be a hell combination.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
John Hagen is our guest chatting about the results of
the Ryder Cup and other things that have been going
on in the world of golf. John, you know you
and I have known each other now a long time.
How do you see the state of golf the way
that it is today. Sure, we had Rory not winning
the entire Grand slimuntil this year when he finally won
the Masters. Several years ago, we saw Jordan Spieth in
the lead at the Masters, and then he hit two
balls into Race Creek and from that point on it
(09:24):
was just nothing since then. And you know, my money
is still, of course on Scotti Shuffler. I believe he's
going to be around in very very fine fashion for
quite a while to come. But how do you see
the overall state of golf today, Well, I think.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
It's very healthy. We've had the luxury and it truly
is that of seeing five levels of golf in California
on an international level, and other than looking at a
sixteen year old who's coming out of first tee or
another program and looking at somebody on the tour, their
(10:00):
swings are the same. The only it's not sarcasm, but
the only way you can tell the difference between the
two of them is one is taller than the other.
And that proved to be the case even with a junior.
Ryder Cup, the sixteen year old when three all went oh.
She played in a tournament on Pebble Beach a couple
(10:22):
of months ago. Eighteenth hole, she had driver over the
big tree that all of your audience will know about.
Had two hundred and thirty two yards into the green,
hit a three iron and made eagle and you take
that and you add up some other examples like that.
(10:43):
I think the state of golf is where the state
of tennis was in the seventies, when when the Florida
tennis camps and schools started in putting people together that
became international stars in a hurry. That's happening. Now we've
got two great amateurs, you know, are finishing in the
(11:03):
top five or top ten on the tour. Now one
of them is this guy Clanton and the other one
is Coiven, and they can beat anybody right now.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
John Hagen is our guest.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
John one final comment regarding the Ryder Cup and golf.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I believe it was golf. I just I believe it was.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I read an article that Gary Player says, quote the
Ryder Cup as a shambles unquote.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
I don't understand why Gary made that comment. Actually I
know him quite well and that doesn't sound like him.
But if he was talking about being a shambles, you know,
he's a pure golfer. You go out with him and
he's like Lee Trevino. He's fun in games until those
(11:55):
three seconds when he gets ready to make that swing
and he doesn't like crowds. It never grew up with
those crowds. He didn't grow up with that kind of
attention the game is getting, like the New Yorkers gave
at the other extreme to Ryder Cup.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Now, being being from South Africa, he was not ever
you know, an actual player on the Ryder Cup because
it was Team Europe, so he was he was forced
to watch every two years and so forth and so on.
But you know, the way that the crowd behaved that
that weekend at the Ryder Cup. It was just very bad,
of course, and yes, some of the players were shouting
back at some of the fans, which to me, of
(12:35):
course is very uncalled for as well. But you can
only take debait for so long, and sooner or later
you might fold into that pressure and respond. But you know,
I mean, we're only human. No one is more human
than the other person the way that I see it,
And if you hear enough, you know, any type of
verbal abuse, sooner or later, you might cave. I'm not
saying that everybody would, but you might, and some of
the players did in that particular case. And I think
(12:57):
that's what Gary was alluding to when he said that
it's a shambles.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Well, I think that's probably true. You know, you can
everyone has their opinions these days. Heavens, we know that
from the papers every day. But you can still do
it with respect. You can still have respect for the game.
You might be picking on McElroy for instance, as an individual,
but let's not confuse McEnroe with the quality of the game.
(13:24):
And that's what they were really, that's what really made
me angry about whether they were just they were compromising.
Golf as an entertainment sport is a wonderful family event,
and it's wonderful entertainment to be out there walking for
six seven miles, which most of them don't do anyway,
(13:47):
and seeing the game for what it is and what
it does contribute to the living of life.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
If you will, John Hagen, it's always a pleasure having
you on. Before we do wrap up here in the
final seconds, what's the update on your new book coming.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Out spring next year. So we're pretty happy about that.
And one of parts of it have been optioned by
a motion picture company, so it may even make that
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It and the name of the book.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
And it's been an interesting fall, let's put it that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Way, and the name of the book.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Is Pebble Beach and Other Foibles.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'll make sure to get my copy when it comes out.
John Hagen, it's always a pleasure having your answer.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It is a ticket, Seve at sixty golf show coming up.
Nets will be chatting with a gentleman from Canyon Springs
and chatting about club fittings and so forth, putters and wedges.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
We'll have Mark J. Caldwell on here in just a
couple of minutes
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