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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Enjoy this podcast version of The Golf Show from sports
Radio AM seven.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Sixty The Ticket.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Now from sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket. This
is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf Show
brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's Golf Academy,
and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on the first
t Andy Everett, all right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Time to talk golf on this Saturday. I missed last
week because we were in Charlotte, but back this week
and I think I'm here for a while until we
start traveling again for basketball mid December and then into January.
So thank you for being with us. Mark Valier and
Kirk James are here from MK Golf. Keith Becker is
doing something I have no desire to do today, and
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that is run a marathon or practice for a marathon.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yeah, he's doing a test. He's doing a long rack
with trying to run runners. I think, okay, yeah, you
used to run a lot, right, many many miles. In fact,
I ran h I just got back from Harbor Town,
uh Silton ed and I ran for the first time
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in fifteen years. Ten years on the beach. That's hard
running on a beach.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
No, it was.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It was fun.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I actually ran three times trying to try to work
on my back and I ran. Uh No, but I
ran anyway, I've actually I'm doing it for my calves,
trying to build my calves up.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I've got some that's done the story. But I ran.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Uh first day I ran a mile, and then I
ran a mile and a half, and then since I've
been home, I ran two times.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And uh so I'm trying to do So.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You think your back injuries are because of the previous running.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Does the running and back injries go to in common
or something?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It has been an it's contributed to it. But since
I'm fused, that can't hurt it, right, all right? So
but anyway, I'm trying. He's not here today, Yeah, he's running.
Mark and Kirker here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
We got lots of golf to get to and of
course we are officially into the holiday season.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Just turn over to our.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Sister station, KQXT if you don't believe it's because we've
been playing Christmas music for three weeks. But if if
you are in the inclined to get somebody something for Christmas.
My recommendation is a gift card because everybody needs to
get fit. And I'm sure that you're booking a lot
of people right before Christmas, So golf clubs are under
the tree.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Well, I was at a shop yesterday and it was
a swinging door, you know it was. It was busy,
so and of course, you know, Kirk and out did.
We don't do much besides talking answer questions. You know,
you're kind of a swinging door too.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's what happens when you are semi retired, right right,
all right, I've got a great fitting story to tell,
and I think it's one that everybody that plays golf
should understand a little bit. I play in a group
that we play the almost of the golf trail a lot,
as you know, and different golf course usually every week.
They play a lot more than I do because they're
all retired and don't have jobs anymore. And I have
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things called games, especially in September through March. But there's
one guy I play somewhat regularly with, and about three
or four weeks ago, six weeks ago whenever it was,
he said, Andy, I think I need to get new
golf clubs. And I looked at his golf clubs and
I said, yeah, you're playing with clubs that are about
twenty years old. And he said, yep, but they work,
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and I said, yeah, they do. And then this person's
probably in his late seventies and shoots somewhere between seventy
three and eighty depending on the day. I seen him
shoot close to par before and seeing him have some
not so good days, hits the ball not far but
down the middle. And when I get to seventy eight
or eighty or I don't even know how he is,
but it's in that range. I hope I can play
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that well and still have fun playing golf and occasionally
get close to par plays from the white teams like
I do, so I hit it further than he does.
He may finds a way to hit hybrids and long
irons into greens. And when he puts well like I do,
we both play well. And he said, you know, don't
you think I need a senior shaft And I said, no,
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I don't have any idea.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You need to go get fit.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And I gave him I think your mark's number or
the shop's number or something, said you need to go
see these guys. You need to spend thirty forty five
minutes hitting driver, hitting irons, hitting whatever you want to hit.
Spend the money to get fit and then buy the
golf clubs that they recommend. And they may be heavier
than what you got, they may be lighter than what
you got, they may be the same brand that you've got,
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but they've got everything, and you don't necessarily need something
just because we're going to pitchonhole you into. That's your
age and your swing speed, so that's exactly what you need.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Correct, correct, correct, And yeah, what you find now with
guys like I know a bunch of guys like that too,
And it's the technology and the heads more than anything,
especially the irons. You will pick up distance if you
are playing with ten or fifteen year old irons just
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because of the faces that they have in these newer
irons that give you higher ball speed. They'll launch higher
and they'll go farther. And these guys don't believe it
until they get in the shop and hit them, and
they are shocked at how much further the ball will go.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Especially with iron.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And if you hit a seven iron, I would say
one forty five for him, he may hit it one
fifty three or one fifty five good, you'd never know.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, if you're hitting one forty five with a twenty
year old seven iron, you might get to on sixty sixty.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, I think the I think the misnomer in all
this in the club fitting world is that I am
a lady, so I need a lady shift. I am
seventy years old, so I need a senior shift. I
only swing one hundred miles an hour, so I need
this club or that club, And everybody's is different. And
as you go through the fitting process, the robot, the computer, AI,
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whatever you want to call it, quad GC, squad that
it's not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's gonna give you the correct numbers.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, age is no determining factor or what shaft you
should be playing. I play with guys. There's a couple
of guys out there who plays in my group. Sometimes
they're over sixty and they're hitting it with a driver.
They're putting it out there almost three hundred yards. I mean,
it's it's insane how far some of these guys can
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hit the ball even when they're over sixty.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
This information that's online about shaft flex and wait, you
know and age and so forth.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's such a.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
It's such bad information for the person reading it because
it has no it's it's not it doesn't work with
the individual that's coming.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It just doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
You have to come in and see what works for
you as an individual.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's a good benchmark to read and look at, but
it doesn't work, you know, for everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well, I think also when you watch somebody come in,
you can tell a lot of times what they're doing
wrong with their golf swing. And I can watch somebody
swing a golf club and your grip's bad, or your
posture is bad, or your stance is bad. But I'm
not a teacher. I can't teach you how to get better.
I can I can get you to get the ball
in the air because I can change your grip, and
I can change your stance, and I can change your
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swing path and say do this. And I've done that
with people that are on the range that are friends
or friends of my daughters or.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Whatever, and they can't hit it.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I go put your hand here, line up here, aim there,
swing this way, and all of a sudden the ball
goes in the air. But I'm nowhere near a golf
pro that's going to be able to take you from
ninety to eighty, eighty to seventy and certainly seventy to better.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And I think you guys understand.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
The golf swing and all that kind of stuff, but
I think golf teachers also understand that there's a limit
to what they can do in fitting. And while they
understand the basics of it, uh, your your your instructor
at your local pro, your your your local pg A pro.
If they don't have a background in fitting, they only
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know the basics. The fine intricacies of it are going
to come from a fitter. And we were talking before
the show. If you google glove fitting in San Antonio, MK,
golf tech.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Is the is the first thing that pops up right.
You know, you go to your old school PJ pros. Uh,
they you know, they know.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Both aspects of the game, you know, equipment and and swing.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But if you're.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
If you're an instructor, you know you're working with somebody
you don't have your hands on. And you used to
be fit carts out there, Well that's that's going that's
all gone away. So now it's delineated. It's here's your
fitter and here's your pro, you know, and you got
to work together, you know, And that's that's really the what.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Do you have to do today?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And I think the club pro can tell you may
have the wrong shaft or the wrong head, or the
wrong club for your particular body, tile, body style, weight swing,
all that kind of stuff. Let's go get to the
talk to the fitter and let's make sure you have
the right club so I can teach you. And what
I'm teaching you will be better if you have the
right clubs.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, correct, And just back to that, I mean, you
don't have to be a PG pro to know the
golf swing, sure, but.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You know it.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It is a I'm talking about the old school PJ
pro that has been around for twenty thirty years. You
know that that has been through the gauntlet, and they
understand all the old equipment versus all the new stuff
and so forth.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So I think most instructors understand what the new equipment does.
And I go back to the example we talked when
you were here last time, when you guys worked together
with Joe back over on Blaco years ago, and there
was a young lady that snap hooked everything and it's
as you put her in a regular men's club that
she could swing, She all of a sudden hit the
ball straight and he could teach her better. And he
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recognized that she had the wrong club, and you guys
figured out which one was the right club. So I think,
and I think you guys can recognize swing flaws, but
you can get them in the right club and then
send the instructor to work out those flaws.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And it's a back and forth, for sure, is a process.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So is there a club out there right now that's
the most popular? And I think popularity comes down to
what you like best. I've seen people that have come
to you and recently bought Mazzuno, recently bought stricks On.
I'm still a peen guy and have been for a
long time, and that tends to be the club I
play the best with. I think there's a lot of
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a discussion about the new titleist driver, about how hot
it has become and the fact that it's got great
ball speed. So is it something for Is there something
out there that more people are gravitating to?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Are you selling pretty much everything?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I'd say it's pretty much across the board. I mean,
we have ones that we sell a lot of which
are typically the Mizzouno JPX line, either the Hot Metal
or the Hot Metal Pro. And they now have a
hot Metal High Launch, which is really a great club.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
For people that have issues getting the ball up in
the air.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yes, because they have weaker lofts that helps get the
ball in the air. It's really interesting. That's a new
wrinkle in the club manufacturing world is they've decided that
they have gone too strong and now they are backing
off some of their clubs to help people launch the
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ball higher.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, it really works.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
In the fifty years I played golf, we've gone from
the standard pitching wedge being fifty to fifty one degrees
to it being forty forty one degrees. Eleven degrees is
what two and a half three clubs difference.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, so we've seen a big change.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And so yeah, forty one degree wedge or a forty
five degree wedge? Which one you gonna get in the
year easier? Right, the forty five you're going to be
able to get the get the.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Lot of Yeah, we sell, but we you know, as
far as irons go, it's kind of all from there.
It's kind of a I would say, we're selling a
lot of titleist irons. Their lineup of irons right now
is about as good as they've ever had. And then
the other one that we I mean, we sell a
lot of Tailor Bade the P seven ninety especially, that's
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a great club for a kind of average golfers.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And it's also right it's a speed range thing too.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
You know, if if you're kind of below eighty and
above eighty, but an eighty range, I say eighty to
eighty six.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know, certain clubs work really well lead with a
seven iron.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, and then uh like, if you're seventy five to
seventy six, this club works a little bit better. As
a As a fitter, I always kind of work toward
that one fifty one sixty ball distance wise, and if
I can get you that carry distance up between one
fifty and one sixty's That's what I'm focusing on, right
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all right.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Harris English has some news that he has shared with people,
but he won't tell us what the news is, but
he is speculating that we're going to see some massive
changes to the schedule on the PGA Tour starting in
twenty twenty seven, which could lead to fewer golf tournaments.
Not necessarily a fan of that, and a great story
from Seawu Kim and Sung JM. We'll tell you about
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that coming up as well. It's the Golf Show on
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