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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now on the first t Andy Everett, Good morning everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Time to talk golf for an hour and in the
midst of December, as we inch closer to Christmas and
then into the new year, there is plenty of golf
stuff to talk about. Enjoining me today from MK Golf
is Mark Valier and Keith Becker.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I guess Kirk decided to take the day off.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Huh you told me?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh, you know, I think I'm going to see I
can handle it, so anyway, So great to see you
about both of you here. I know you guys are
busy getting people fitted for clubs, and I'm sure there's
some people out there that need to get fitted for
Christmas gifts too in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, it's that time of year, so if you need
a gift certificate, we're here for you.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, we probably have a lot of sales going on too.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, the I've tried to explain to so many people
that they need to get fit and even whether you're
forty or eighty. And I play with golfers a lot
that are in between those ages, and some of you
still have golf clubs from pre twenty ten or pre
two thousand, and you could make this game a little
bit easier if you would upgrade a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
It does make the game easier. We're working a lot
with some folks up in Horseshoe Bay in our second store,
and it's amazing how many of those and the age
bracket up there is elevated.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Probably a little different demographic, but now you get a
little of everything, but a little different demographic of.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
The lot of the A lot of the ladies have
really older clubs, more it probably than the man.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
What I see the most is is a lot of
hand me down my husband's clubs from twenty years ago
that are too heavy and not the right length and
that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So they see wait heavy.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The one thing I get, and we've touched on this before,
is well, I'm a senior now I need to please
playing senior shafts, or I am a lady, I need
to be playing lady shafts. And that may be the case,
but it's not necessarily the case. And to kind of
pigeonhole people into a certain category just because of your
age or your gender, it doesn't necessarily mean that you
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can't play with a better a different club better.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, I totally agree. I hate that the naming conventions.
It really is just a flex profile. You swing a
certain speed, you have a certain type of swing, you
should fit into this flex profile.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Whether it's ladies, senior men's, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I know, over the last eight or ten years or so,
maybe longer than that, Fred Couples has played with like
the fiber Chefts, fiber fiber check, but prior to that,
when he played with steel, he always played with regular shafts.
And I remember the explanation, and this is twenty five
years ago. Was Yes, Fred swings one hundred and twenty
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miles now with the driver and seven iron in close
to one hundred. But it's tempo and if he if
you swing, he swings with slower tempo, so he can
get away with a regular shaft, whereas golfers who have
a faster tempo are going to lose it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Left a lot if they have a shaft that's kind
of too whippy.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Definitely, tempo is the key really for your You're more
it's more of a flex profile, you know, and then
where you release the club. Yeah, it's just the flex
profile is more of a tempo issue. So that's where
we look at.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I think the easiest way to think about it is
where do you generate speed? Do you generate a lot
of speed immediately as you transition into your downswing or
is it a grad jewel acceleration all the way to
the golf ball. A lot of people are quick from
the top and they accelerate a lot, and then some
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others are a little bit smoother and they generate speed
throughout the Downsmare.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I have a lot of lag, or at least I've
been told I have a lot of lag. I remember
Michael Alamanna was watching me play years ago at Luck
and Terra and he goes, I've never seen anybody with
that much lag except Sergio and so I haven't filmed
myself lately, but I don't cast the club. I can
take it all the way down and snap it at
the last second.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, well, La, I think it's kind of like a
part of your swing DNA that you get early on,
and if you don't get it early on, you don't
get it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I think, I mean, I think that was the
case with me. I can't find the pictures. They're in
a box somewhere, and I don't even know where the
box is. Maybe it's been thrown away. But when I
was in high school, we had a guy that was
into photography and he got one of those cameras that
you could have like multi frames all at once where
the golf the All World magazine used to have, you know,
from beginning to end, it'd be like thirty frames. And
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so I have these pictures and I'm like, man, I
wish I could get my hands that high.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Can't get them that high anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Speaking of Michael Mona, he's recovering from a torn hamstring.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So he's he's he's kind of through it. He's back
in Scottsdale now, you know, he teaches them in Chicago
in the summertime, and he's back in Scottsdale teaching I
think twice a week, and he says, recovering mostly with vodka.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So well, that medicial purpose is only right with a
spice of grapefruit.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Tear a hamstring playing golf, No, he.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Might have tripped somewhere, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, all right, So anyway, let's get to one of
the big news stories of the week. And because they're
playing the hero World Challenge, which supports Tiger's charities, and
he hosts in the Bahamas, not playing after the surgery
six seven weeks ago, he held a press conference this
week where he tongue in cheek, said I'm gonna play
twenty five times next year on both tours. Yeah, we
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all wish, uh, And then he said, no, I have
no idea what I'm going to play. I have to
rehab first. I've been through this before. I know this
is going to take some time. Once I figure like
I can I can play, then we'll figure out a schedule.
But I'm still weeks away from that. I've got a
date circle. I've got a date circle where I think
Tiger's going to play. And it's not the Masters, No, anyway,
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I think he's going to play the Masters.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
He'll be at the dinner.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I think he's going to play the Masters if he can.
But March sixth through the eighth, the UH Jim Hardy
James Hardy Senior Tour event is in Boca Ratone, and
that's about an hour drive from his house in Jupiter,
so he doesn't even have to get a hotel. He
can helicopter back and forth to the games or boat.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So when was his disc replaced?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
September, the last Friday in September, game of every March.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's six months. No, he's not playing. Then he gets
a cart No not playing, then he won't play. He
won't play until maybe September or August of six Yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Tell me about this surgery because you're well aware of
this is in the lumbar section, the disreplacement, and I'm
talking about disc replacement surgery, not not lamonectomies or fusion
disreplacement surgery is available today.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So he had disreplacement surgery. So they take the disc
out and put some other another disc in, so that
takes time to set and now he has total mobility.
Now I don't know if they replace one disc or
multiple discs one, so you know, you know, you don't
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know from him really what they do. But I'm gonna
say it's going to be almost a year, you know,
eight months before he can start movement again.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So he's going to start chipping and putting.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
He can do that now, Yeah, he could do that now,
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But you know he's gonna want to hit a driver soon.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well yeah, i'd say I'd say i'd say eight months
before he can really start to go on one, eight
to ten months, all right, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I'm gonna I'm gonna circle March sixth through the eighth,
and we'll see March off.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
We should make a wager we can do that Bill
Miller's bacon an egg. There you go on sweet tea.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Awesome. Uh so yeah, March sixth to the eighth.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
See, I don't think he should play any of the
majors until he's had some warm up in compet.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He could go to the Open Championship, yeah, you know
in July. Yeah, and there's a couple of Senior Tour
events before there. But I just saw both.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I looked at the champions Tour schedule and I kind
of went down the list a little bit and I
was like, well, there's a tournament in his backyard that
he would just be able to helicopter back and forth
to every morning and and go play and the champions Tour,
go to maybe go out and see what he can
do on the Championship. I think he needs some time
in the competition, that's.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Not no doubt. Well, I mean, I know too many
of these athletes I work with that have been injured,
and one in particular, and it's sometimes a twelve month
to eighteen months process when you've been out for a while.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, Justin Thomas has had some kind of back surgery.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
He had this ectomy, leminectomy, and he didn't he never
discussed injections, but I can promise you if he had,
you just don't go from playing golf to laminactomy. So
he probably had injections along the way. I'm just probably
guessing here, you know. So what is he back? March April?
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When did he have it? About a month ago? I
would say three months? Okay, so you can start we're
working out I see it to Masters, I'd say maybe
the Masters, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Tiger was also asked about have you thought about being
the Writer Cup captain in Ireland in twenty twenty seven,
and he said, no one's called me yet.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I find that hard to believe. I do too.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah somebody now, somebody from the PGA of America or
from the Writerer Cup committee may not have called him,
but I'm guaranteeing there's players that have said, when are
you going to captain this team?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
We need Tiger Mojo, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Possible diability, deniability, plausible deniability.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah what see, I I think I don't. Tiger was
never great at a as a Ryder Cup player, especially
early in his career. He got better as he went on,
but I just wonder what kind of a captain he
would be and how see I thought, I thought the
only mistake that Keegan Bradley made, well, he made too.
He put Uh Morikawa in uh who are in? Here's English?
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Together in alternate shot two days in a row, which
analytically speaking, was the worst pairing you could get. And
the other thing was not playing himself. I thought he
should have played and take out somebody at the back end.
I don't care who. But other than that, I thought
Keig and Bradley did okay. It's just that Europe played
a little bit better. I'm just wondering what what Tiger
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would have done with that same group and how.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
He would have paired people. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
It's hard to say, but my gut is he doesn't
want to accept a captaincy until in his mind he
knows he's done. Because I think in his mind, even
though most of the world is probably doubting him, he
thinks he can still get back.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I totally agree with that. I think that's one hundred
percent accurate. He doesn't want to put himself in a category,
an additional category, until the golf category is gone, so
that's another category.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I see a world where Tiger could actually win a
Champions Tour event, whether it's twenty six or twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I think the golf courses are set up easy. He'll
hit it further than anybody out there on the tour.
He'll have wedges into a lot of greens, you don't
have nearly the difficult pins. And I think he and
it's three days, and I think he can gohea and
shoot eighteen hundred for three days and win. I see
a scenario where if he was playing the right golf course, Bayhill, Sawgrass,
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Tory Pine, someplace he's familiar with, even the Augusta, he
could be in competition, I see no way he could
play enough golf to be a Ryder Cup player ever.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Again, no, no, if.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He thinks he's going to ever make a Ryder Cup man, now,
somebody might select him as a captain's pick, which would
be disastrous for the team because you would set him
at least two of the four rounds.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
He could never play thirty six holes.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So but if he thinks he's ever going to make
the Ryder Cup team, he's very delusional. Well, and that's
coming from a Tiger apologist.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, I mean, I even if you look at these
fall events where these young players are playing trying to
get into the top one hundred, you know, they're shooting
phenomenal numbers in the high twenties, you know, and under par,
and I just I don't see Tiger competing with those players.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, I don't think Tiger's ever going to hit the
ball far enough to compete with the guys that hit
it as long as he does. Plus you have to
play seventy two holes, plus you have to walk, Plus
you have to play him on an early round one
day in a late round the next day. And if
you get the late early time, he's going to get
an hour sleep at most before he has to start
recovering again and go through all the treatment. I think
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PGA Tour situations are going to be hard. I think
because he knows Augusta and can manipulate the ball, he
could compete there. I don't know the wins or not,
and he maybe he could win. I think he win
Champions Tour events. I think plural on that. I just
don't see him being I don't see him playing enough
for any Ryder Cup captain to pick him or for
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him to get enough points to be able to make
the two money's own.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do
it's his his overall schedule. You know, what he's doing
in his life watching Charlie play, or his investments and
interest in what he's doing in his life, and he's
had enough time to practice. That's that's a big deal.
I mean, you know, he's a billionaire and he's got
a lot of fingers out in different life and stuff.
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So I think that is now what is what's like
when he was playing full time?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, one of the things he's doing is working with
the PGA Tour and coming up with a different schedule
in twenty twenty seven, and we'll tell you what the
rumors are about that coming up.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
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