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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett. Enjoy this podcast version of
The Golf Show from sports Radio AM seven sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The Ticket.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Now from sports Radio AM seven to sixty to the ticket.
This is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf
Show brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's
Golf Academy, and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on
the first t Andy.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Everett, Good Saturday morning to all of you. Is time
to talk golf for the next hour. Lots of things
going on on all the tours around the world, including
the PGA Tour in Phoenix. We'll get onto all of that.
We've got some tips to get to today. There are
some potential ideas to speed up play in golf, some
equipment out there, and the Valero Texas Open got a
nice round of commitments with its first release earlier in
(00:51):
the week.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Joe Caruso from.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The Joe Caruso Golf Academy joining us to this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Good morning morning.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We were talking before the show began, and I was
asking you about young players in San Antonio during the
COVID era nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two, we had
a renaissance of young people playing golf, especially girls on
the middle school teams, and just kind of wondering what
the state of youth golf is in San Antonio. I
(01:19):
know that they're very handicapped with the school systems getting out.
Other than Alamal Heights that gets out at one forty
five two o'clock every day, most of the high school
students don't get out of school till three thirty three
forty five, So if it's going to be dark at
five point thirty, there's a limited amount of time that
they get to play. But overall, how would you assess
the state of high school golf right now? Especially Alama
(01:41):
Heights they're they're a really good team and they've been
to State a couple of times one and a couple
of times.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, I think that the state, I think there's a
lot of kids playing golf. It's a it's a great
thing to see. I think I've never seen such a
I mean, I have kids showing up and I go, yeah,
I have to qualify for my middle school team.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So it's they're shooting in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, well there's one or two maybe, but it's just
the fact that they want to play the game, and
I think one of the big things too, and he
is you're finding a lot of.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
High school kids, especially boys all.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Right, that are are playing the game, want to play
the game, but don't want to be on the team.
They just enjoy playing with their friends. And you're starting
to see it leak into college. Like I have one
of my young men show up from UT the other day.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That is, that's Rev.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Mccomb's business school, and he just absolutely loves the game.
He and his fraternity brothers play every Saturday, you know.
So it's the games. And I think is in great
shape when it comes to that. Yes, Alma Heights. I
think Alma Heights if not, you know, even though they're
(02:54):
classified in five A, I think they're the best team
in the state right now.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
They they won every single trant.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, they've won every single tournament they've played in. They've
beat all the six A teams, Reagan, Johnson, West Lake, Travis, Vandergriff,
all the Dallas teams. Especially this last week, they really
put the hammer down. So they're really good and they're
(03:24):
in the big reasons.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Why they're good they get out, they get to play more.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
How many parents do you see or kids do you
see that are super athletic and they could play football
if they wanted. They could play basketball if they wanted,
and they're choosing golf because of the violence of football.
If you run a lot in basketball, you're gonna you
can get any injuries and chin splints and things like that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But they're really athletic.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
They work out to get better at golf, and they're
choosing golf as their sport. Whether they make it professionally
or not, this is what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yes, that you're starting to see a lot of that now. Uh,
the crossover athlete that's coming over to golf at the
UH they got tired of the Maybe the basketball for
girls is you know, when you get a basketball player
from the girls side, it's tremendous.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
They got such good footwork and fundamentals and a lot
of coordination. Yeah, coordination. And I know that I've noticed
this at UTSA over the years. The way that athletes
train during the season is far differ than they used to.
There's not a lot of cardio stuff done day to
day to day in practice. It's done in the in
their weight room, it's done on separate sessions, it's done
(04:38):
in the treadmills that have the gravity, the zero gravity
to take pressure off your legs while still strengthening your
your cardio situation. It's not go run three suicides after
every time you miss a layup, because that just wears
you out and kills your legs. And so they're they're
training people differently, and they're also teaching and trying to
(04:58):
educate young kids on how to eat properly. And I
think if you've got a person that could be an
all state football player that's six three two twenty and
they choose golf and they hit it three p fifty,
then all of a sudden, you have the next phenomenal golfer.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Perhaps that's definitely true. When you crossover athlete a basketball
I'm going to use the basketball player and the girls side.
You get these these boys when they come from tennis.
I do have this young man that came from tennis
and it took him maybe a year to break eighty
(05:34):
and so that crossover athletes very I think parents that
are out there that are listening, let your kid keep
playing all the way through junior high all right, the
sport like basketball or tennis or baseball, whatever it may be,
including golf at the same time, and then you're going
to get that special player.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And you're going to get somebody that's not burned out
and whose muscles haven't been super set on just one
particular sport.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Totally agree with that.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It's going to be They're going to show up to
the game totally different, especially coordinated. I mean, the hands
have to be coordinated to play this game. Tour players
aren't in my opinion, are not the best athletes in
the world, but their hands are super coordinated they hit
a golf ball.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But you take a guy like Gary Woodland that he
was an all state basketball player in Kansas and thought
he was going to go to KU and then kay,
you never recruited him. So he goes to a junior
college in Kansas and he played high school golf and
was decent at it. And they have a exhibition game
against Kansas to start the season and they get run
(06:40):
out of the gym by fifty and he doesn't score.
It's like, I guess I'm not a basketball player. I
guess I'll go back to golf. But you have a
guy that was really really talented at the high school
level but has the coordination and the skill set to
develop that into golf and then carried into a professional
career like he has.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I definitely agree.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
And if you know the young players that are out there,
you know, they have this these two young kids that
are homeschooled all.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right, and the only thing they do is they play golf.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
But we found a trainer that trains them as a
cross athlete, you know, I mean crossing over right.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
They do all kinds.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
They look like they're doing a football workout, you know,
all those agility drills, sure, basketball workout, or they're running
around the gym and cones and stuff and you know,
so and they they're starting to really hit the ball.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, And he make the fitness aspect with it, and
they get stronger and all of a sudden they can
rotate better and they're flexible.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'll tell you one thing, Andy that's really exploded in
our game is the trainers. They those guys have, guys
and women have totally changed the game.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well, I think it's It's made a big impact for
me too. I've been going to Craig Brown for fourteen
years now. The first seven were kind of a waste
of time because I wouldn't do what he told me
to do as far as diet. But once I got
the diet under control, it's I can't shoot this right
now on most golf courses because I haven't been playing
much lately, but my handicap's never been lower. I'm under
(08:14):
three on the handicap, and I don't know that I
can shoot it right now, but by the summer I can,
and it's on certain especially on the Alamo City golf
trail courses where I mostly play. But I was never
below six or seven before I started getting in the
right shape to play the game. And if you're a
young player and you're struggling with club control at the
top of your swing, if you don't have a lot
(08:35):
of strength there, you're going to lose the club. But
sometimes at the top and if you have the right strength,
you can make that proper golf swing.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I totally agree that that's the biggest probably the biggest
part of the game now has been the workouts. And
it don't I don't care who where you go, all right.
So it's like you see all these different things that
are out there now, the CPI, Joey d Everybody's coming
up with something to make that athlete stronger, faster, more coordinated.
(09:08):
I'm going to keep seeing that same word coordinated. I
cannot explain to you how hard this game is if
you don't have eye hand coordination.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right when I first started playing golf in probably six
or seventh grade, was kind of the twelve thirteen damn,
a little bit younger that ten eleven twelve than that range.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I was not coordinated.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I was I could hit the ball further than a
lot of people that were older than me. I had
a really long swing, lenky swing, but it was very
loose and when I connected, it would go. Now sometimes
it'd be three fair ways to the left or right.
But I could hit it far. But what I couldn't
do is control it. And you have to be able
to control that speed. And I wish they would have
(09:49):
had the agility drills and the strength conditioning the drills.
I mean, I've graduated from high school at the same
height I am now and forty five pounds lighter, so
I can maybe fifty pounds later. So, but I didn't
have muscle. I just had, you know, skin and bones basically.
And so if you can find somebody that can help
train you to get into a good spot, that's that's
(10:11):
going to be very helpful in the development of young athletes.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's it's the only way. Now.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
If you're not doing it, you're going, but you're you're
gonna get absolutely passed up.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right, let's talk about a little bit before we
get to the next segment about what's going on at
the w and Phoenix Open. Lots of guys at the
top of the leaderboard. Scottie Shuffler made a run yesterday
with a sixty six. He had an interesting take on
this golf tournament and he said, you never know whether
you can trust the fans or not, whether they're legit
or they're just drunk and they're messing with you a
little bit. And he said they got a gun like
(10:43):
the seventh hole and he was playing with Max Holma
and Max had about a twenty foot put up the
hill and he's reading it and somebody goes, hey, Max,
it's dead straight, and Max just kind of blows them
off and he keeps reading the green and goes, come on, Max,
hit the pot. I've been watching this all day. It's
dead straight, it doesn't move and he I got all
if he made it or not, Scott he didn't finish
(11:04):
the story, but you don't see that at any other
golf tournament or anything like you see at the w
M Phoenix Open.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know what, it reminds me of a lift tournament,
it does. That's what it a tournament. Yes, it would.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It might be beyond a lift tournament because they're more
out of control, if you can even think that way.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
All right, So I'm not there's only one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, it just it's I.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Don't know that it's supposed to be a little bit
more under control this year. They're they're starting to take
their beer cups away and all that kind of stuff,
but the.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's kind of crazy. Have you ever been to that tournament?
I have not. I have it, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It's it's just that sixteenth hole is I've said this
forever and I've never played TPC Scottsdale, but everybody that
tells me about it says it's a fun golf course.
It's a relatively benign golf course, but it's nothing like
what you see on TV because the grand stands aren't up.
(12:12):
And I think what would be a great selling point
for that golf course is to leave the grand stands
up on sixteen and to pumpy in crowd noise on
the loudspeakers, so that when the recreational golfer shows up there,
they get the ambience of what it's like to play
that hole.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
My wife was there a week before the tournament or
ten days before the tournament, and she says she went
and sat in a stand and walked down onto the
tea box.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
She goes, it's like a big stadium. Big stadium.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, yeah, if you've ever gone to a football stadium,
especially like I remember when I was in college. No,
I don't think we were supposed to do this, but
on Sunday mornings, we played played flag football in the stadium.
The gateslower left open in Wilson, we're in. We went
in and played flag football at Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, and
(12:57):
nobody ever kicked us out. Nobody ever told us we
couldn't be there. But you just stand on the fifty
yard line and you can just kind of feel the
aura of the stadium on top of you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So it's pretty interesting, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Jay Monahan and Adam Scott met with Trump this week.
Brights into Shambeau. Some thoughts on that. We got some
tips to get to and maybe a rule change, idea.
We'll talk about all that coming up. It's the golf
show on the ticket
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett. Enjoy this podcast version of
The Golf Show from sports Radio AM seven sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The Ticket.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Now from sports Radio AM seven to sixty to the ticket.
This is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf
Show brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's
Golf Academy, and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on
the first t Andy.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Everett, Good Saturday morning to all of you. Is time
to talk golf for the next hour. Lots of things
going on on all the tours around the world, including
the PGA Tour in Phoenix. We'll get onto all of that.
We've got some tips to get to today. There are
some potential ideas to speed up play in golf, some
equipment out there, and the Valero Texas Open got a
nice round of commitments with its first release earlier in
(00:51):
the week.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Joe Caruso from.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The Joe Caruso Golf Academy joining us to this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Good morning morning.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We were talking before the show began, and I was
asking you about young players in San Antonio during the
COVID era nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two, we had
a renaissance of young people playing golf, especially girls on
the middle school teams, and just kind of wondering what
the state of youth golf is in San Antonio. I
(01:19):
know that they're very handicapped with the school systems getting out.
Other than Alamal Heights that gets out at one forty
five two o'clock every day, most of the high school
students don't get out of school till three thirty three
forty five, So if it's going to be dark at
five point thirty, there's a limited amount of time that
they get to play. But overall, how would you assess
the state of high school golf right now? Especially Alama
(01:41):
Heights they're they're a really good team and they've been
to State a couple of times one and a couple
of times.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, I think that the state, I think there's a
lot of kids playing golf. It's a it's a great
thing to see. I think I've never seen such a
I mean, I have kids showing up and I go, yeah,
I have to qualify for my middle school team.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So it's they're shooting in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, well there's one or two maybe, but it's just
the fact that they want to play the game, and
I think one of the big things too, and he
is you're finding a lot of.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
High school kids, especially boys all.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Right, that are are playing the game, want to play
the game, but don't want to be on the team.
They just enjoy playing with their friends. And you're starting
to see it leak into college. Like I have one
of my young men show up from UT the other day.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That is, that's Rev.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Mccomb's business school, and he just absolutely loves the game.
He and his fraternity brothers play every Saturday, you know.
So it's the games. And I think is in great
shape when it comes to that. Yes, Alma Heights. I
think Alma Heights if not, you know, even though they're
(02:54):
classified in five A, I think they're the best team
in the state right now.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
They they won every single trant.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, they've won every single tournament they've played in. They've
beat all the six A teams, Reagan, Johnson, West Lake, Travis, Vandergriff,
all the Dallas teams. Especially this last week, they really
put the hammer down. So they're really good and they're
(03:24):
in the big reasons.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Why they're good they get out, they get to play more.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
How many parents do you see or kids do you
see that are super athletic and they could play football
if they wanted. They could play basketball if they wanted,
and they're choosing golf because of the violence of football.
If you run a lot in basketball, you're gonna you
can get any injuries and chin splints and things like that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But they're really athletic.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
They work out to get better at golf, and they're
choosing golf as their sport. Whether they make it professionally
or not, this is what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yes, that you're starting to see a lot of that now. Uh,
the crossover athlete that's coming over to golf at the
UH they got tired of the Maybe the basketball for
girls is you know, when you get a basketball player
from the girls side, it's tremendous.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
They got such good footwork and fundamentals and a lot
of coordination. Yeah, coordination. And I know that I've noticed
this at UTSA over the years. The way that athletes
train during the season is far differ than they used to.
There's not a lot of cardio stuff done day to
day to day in practice. It's done in the in
their weight room, it's done on separate sessions, it's done
(04:38):
in the treadmills that have the gravity, the zero gravity
to take pressure off your legs while still strengthening your
your cardio situation. It's not go run three suicides after
every time you miss a layup, because that just wears
you out and kills your legs. And so they're they're
training people differently, and they're also teaching and trying to
(04:58):
educate young kids on how to eat properly. And I
think if you've got a person that could be an
all state football player that's six three two twenty and
they choose golf and they hit it three p fifty,
then all of a sudden, you have the next phenomenal golfer.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Perhaps that's definitely true. When you crossover athlete a basketball
I'm going to use the basketball player and the girls side.
You get these these boys when they come from tennis.
I do have this young man that came from tennis
and it took him maybe a year to break eighty
(05:34):
and so that crossover athletes very I think parents that
are out there that are listening, let your kid keep
playing all the way through junior high all right, the
sport like basketball or tennis or baseball, whatever it may be,
including golf at the same time, and then you're going
to get that special player.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And you're going to get somebody that's not burned out
and whose muscles haven't been super set on just one
particular sport.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Totally agree with that.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It's going to be They're going to show up to
the game totally different, especially coordinated. I mean, the hands
have to be coordinated to play this game. Tour players
aren't in my opinion, are not the best athletes in
the world, but their hands are super coordinated they hit
a golf ball.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But you take a guy like Gary Woodland that he
was an all state basketball player in Kansas and thought
he was going to go to KU and then kay,
you never recruited him. So he goes to a junior
college in Kansas and he played high school golf and
was decent at it. And they have a exhibition game
against Kansas to start the season and they get run
(06:40):
out of the gym by fifty and he doesn't score.
It's like, I guess I'm not a basketball player. I
guess I'll go back to golf. But you have a
guy that was really really talented at the high school
level but has the coordination and the skill set to
develop that into golf and then carried into a professional
career like he has.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I definitely agree.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
And if you know the young players that are out there,
you know, they have this these two young kids that
are homeschooled all.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right, and the only thing they do is they play golf.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
But we found a trainer that trains them as a
cross athlete, you know, I mean crossing over right.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
They do all kinds.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
They look like they're doing a football workout, you know,
all those agility drills, sure, basketball workout, or they're running
around the gym and cones and stuff and you know,
so and they they're starting to really hit the ball.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, And he make the fitness aspect with it, and
they get stronger and all of a sudden they can
rotate better and they're flexible.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'll tell you one thing, Andy that's really exploded in
our game is the trainers. They those guys have, guys
and women have totally changed the game.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well, I think it's It's made a big impact for
me too. I've been going to Craig Brown for fourteen
years now. The first seven were kind of a waste
of time because I wouldn't do what he told me
to do as far as diet. But once I got
the diet under control, it's I can't shoot this right
now on most golf courses because I haven't been playing
much lately, but my handicap's never been lower. I'm under
(08:14):
three on the handicap, and I don't know that I
can shoot it right now, but by the summer I can,
and it's on certain especially on the Alamo City golf
trail courses where I mostly play. But I was never
below six or seven before I started getting in the
right shape to play the game. And if you're a
young player and you're struggling with club control at the
top of your swing, if you don't have a lot
(08:35):
of strength there, you're going to lose the club. But
sometimes at the top and if you have the right strength,
you can make that proper golf swing.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I totally agree that that's the biggest probably the biggest
part of the game now has been the workouts. And
it don't I don't care who where you go, all right.
So it's like you see all these different things that
are out there now, the CPI, Joey d Everybody's coming
up with something to make that athlete stronger, faster, more coordinated.
(09:08):
I'm going to keep seeing that same word coordinated. I
cannot explain to you how hard this game is if
you don't have eye hand coordination.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Right when I first started playing golf in probably six
or seventh grade, was kind of the twelve thirteen damn,
a little bit younger that ten eleven twelve than that range.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I was not coordinated.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I was I could hit the ball further than a
lot of people that were older than me. I had
a really long swing, lenky swing, but it was very
loose and when I connected, it would go. Now sometimes
it'd be three fair ways to the left or right.
But I could hit it far. But what I couldn't
do is control it. And you have to be able
to control that speed. And I wish they would have
(09:49):
had the agility drills and the strength conditioning the drills.
I mean, I've graduated from high school at the same
height I am now and forty five pounds lighter, so
I can maybe fifty pounds later. So, but I didn't
have muscle. I just had, you know, skin and bones basically.
And so if you can find somebody that can help
train you to get into a good spot, that's that's
(10:11):
going to be very helpful in the development of young athletes.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's it's the only way. Now.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
If you're not doing it, you're going, but you're you're
gonna get absolutely passed up.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right, let's talk about a little bit before we
get to the next segment about what's going on at
the w and Phoenix Open. Lots of guys at the
top of the leaderboard. Scottie Shuffler made a run yesterday
with a sixty six. He had an interesting take on
this golf tournament and he said, you never know whether
you can trust the fans or not, whether they're legit
or they're just drunk and they're messing with you a
little bit. And he said they got a gun like
(10:43):
the seventh hole and he was playing with Max Holma
and Max had about a twenty foot put up the
hill and he's reading it and somebody goes, hey, Max,
it's dead straight, and Max just kind of blows them
off and he keeps reading the green and goes, come on, Max,
hit the pot. I've been watching this all day. It's
dead straight, it doesn't move and he I got all
if he made it or not, Scott he didn't finish
(11:04):
the story, but you don't see that at any other
golf tournament or anything like you see at the w
M Phoenix Open.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know what, it reminds me of a lift tournament,
it does. That's what it a tournament. Yes, it would.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It might be beyond a lift tournament because they're more
out of control, if you can even think that way.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
All right, So I'm not there's only one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, it just it's I.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Don't know that it's supposed to be a little bit
more under control this year. They're they're starting to take
their beer cups away and all that kind of stuff,
but the.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's kind of crazy. Have you ever been to that tournament?
I have not. I have it, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It's it's just that sixteenth hole is I've said this
forever and I've never played TPC Scottsdale, but everybody that
tells me about it says it's a fun golf course.
It's a relatively benign golf course, but it's nothing like
what you see on TV because the grand stands aren't up.
(12:12):
And I think what would be a great selling point
for that golf course is to leave the grand stands
up on sixteen and to pumpy in crowd noise on
the loudspeakers, so that when the recreational golfer shows up there,
they get the ambience of what it's like to play
that hole.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
My wife was there a week before the tournament or
ten days before the tournament, and she says she went
and sat in a stand and walked down onto the
tea box.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
She goes, it's like a big stadium. Big stadium.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, yeah, if you've ever gone to a football stadium,
especially like I remember when I was in college. No,
I don't think we were supposed to do this, but
on Sunday mornings, we played played flag football in the stadium.
The gateslower left open in Wilson, we're in. We went
in and played flag football at Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, and
(12:57):
nobody ever kicked us out. Nobody ever told us we
couldn't be there. But you just stand on the fifty
yard line and you can just kind of feel the
aura of the stadium on top of you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So it's pretty interesting, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Jay Monahan and Adam Scott met with Trump this week.
Brights into Shambeau. Some thoughts on that. We got some
tips to get to and maybe a rule change, idea.
We'll talk about all that coming up. It's the golf
show on the ticket
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