March 1, 2025 • 11 mins
As we get closer to a PGA-LIV merger, what does it look like for golfers reuniting?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, eight forty six, it's the Golf Show on
the ticket and the Everett with the guy who's from
MK Golf Tech, Mark Valier, and Kirk James and the
new owner, Keith Becker.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Glad you're all with us today. All right.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
There are some rumors floating around out there that this
deal with imminently with liv is getting closer to happening,
and apparently, well it did happen. Tiger and Adam, Scott
and Monaghan met with President Trump and usually when they
all want something to get done, they.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Figure out a way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
These days, so the tour, according to Rex Hoger, the
tour does not want to announce anything the next two
weeks because of the significance of Bay Hill and the
Players Championship. They don't want to overshadow that. But we're
going to start seeing some things leak out here pretty soon,
I think, and whatever it takes to get this deal done,
I'm hoping they get it done. But one of the
(00:51):
things that was interesting at the tg ELE event this
past week, brooks Kepka showed up. Tiger wasn't there, but
brooks Kepka showed up. And now the rumors are that
Brooks Kopka wants to play TGL, and he may be
having a little buyer's remorse for his move to Live,
and he may denounce his LIB membership at some point
and try to get reinstated to the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You okay with that?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, I guess I'm okay with that. It's interesting that
he wants to play in the TGL, but that's I
guess it's because it's basically down the street from where
it is and so it's really easy.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But here's the here's a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He's been the one that's been the most disappointed in
what Live hasn't become.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Right, here's here's the sixty four thousand pyramid question right
here to the players that didn't go to Live, get
compensated or not. And there's a camp like Roy says, hey,
we're playing for twenty million and thirty million at the players,
we don't need to be compensated. And there's guys like
JT and Jordan to go, hey, give us something for
we're being loyal to the tour.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I don't see how it happens without compensation for the players.
For our top top twenty players, Top fifteen top twenty.
I think they're going to compensate it any in some way.
I just don't see what happens without compensation personally.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Opinion on that, Keith, Yeah, from my standpoint, I think
if if the guys that stayed with the PGA Tour
are are if they can work it out, I think
everyone in golf, all of the fans, want to see
some sort of a reunification. I think that's why it's happening.
We want to see the best play against the best.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I want to see Brighton and John Ram and those guys.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
So I have no problem with it, But I think
it's the guys that stayed that have to work out.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm sure to say out the longest.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, and I actually I slightly disagree with you from
the standpoint of I don't know what Rory's net worth
is and speace net worth is, it's got to be
pretty high. I'm curious with the guys a little bit
further down the list on the PGA Tour that don't
have that net worth right, that's stuck with it, that
probably could have made the jump and got paid one
hundred million or or something crazy. How do you work
(03:06):
it out?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
With them, right, Yeah, Well, there are so many issues
with that.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
How far down the list do you got exactly?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Because like Billy, who next on the list is going
to be Like, if Billy Horschel doesn't get paid, the
only person that's going to care that you didn't get
paid is Billy Horschell. But if jordan' spe doesn't get
paid or JT doesn't get paid, now everybody's going to
be on their side because they're more of a marquee
marquee star and Billy is a good player, but is
relevance isn't what?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
He's not moving the needle on a on a TV deal? Yeah,
And who's paying them? And where's the money coming from who?
There's so many issues involved in that. You could just
go on and on and on. But I thought they
were I thought that they were talking about giving equity
ownership in the PGA tour to some guy that work
(03:57):
that's your part, because that makes more sense making partners.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, because if you want.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
This to succeed, then that'll be good for you because
it is now a public I mean it's it's they
set up a for profit.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right, the tournaments will be nonprofit, but the tour arm
of it will be will be no longer for a
one C three.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yes, so they could give them interest in that company.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
If there's compensation money, it's gonna probably come from piff
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And they got plenty of it here. And they got
plenty of They have a trillion dollar fund. They can
write a check to anybody for anything. All right, what
was it going to do?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Luke?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Clinton finished high enough this week at Cognizant as an amateur,
he had to make the cut. He has now got
his PGA Tour card. Now, don't feel sorry for him
for not taking price money, because I'm sure Florida State's
compensating him well through NIL. But Keith, you played college
golf and the landscape was vastly different back in the
(04:57):
day than it is now for top notch college golfers.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
It was, yeah, nowadays it's it's completely different. In fact,
we actually have a part timer with us at MK
fantastic guy plays college golf locally and he's got an
n IL deal. And so I was when I was playing.
Unless you were a Ben Hogan Award winner, unless you
were an All American, just just kind of next level.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Those were the guys that.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Were getting all of the new equipment and kind of
getting their hands on things. But nowadays it's just changed
so much, and Nils has completely changed the landscape. So
to your point, Andy, ye, I think Luke's doing just fine.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Straw that broke the camel's back for Tiger to turn
pro was when he went to Pebble Beach and had
dinner with Arnold Palmer, and the NCAA suspended him for
two tournaments because Arnold Palmer paid for the dinner and
they made Tiger give him write him a check, which
Arnold Palmer tore up the check after he gave him
the check because of the forty dollars dinner or fifty
dollar dinner at Pebble Beach. And Tiger said, I'm out
(06:02):
of here. I'm going to win the US Amateur and
I'm turning pro. And now Tiger could think about what
kind of ni all money Tiger could get. Now if
you playing in college at this.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Level, a forty dollars dinner check won't even pay for
a drink there.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Now, Yeah, yeah, it's a little it's a little more expensive.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Well, we were chatting out the break when I was playing.
I don't remember the exact dollar figure. But it was
it was not even a four figure sum. It was
like three hundred or seven fifty or something like that
for the year.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But if you accepted above.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
That amount, I mean you lost your amateur status and
the rules have just completely changed.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, it's all, it's all a different thing right now.
All right, good to announce the the Valero Texas Open.
Dekie Matzi, Yama, Sam Burns, and Ricky Fowler committed this week.
I encourage anybody that wants to see one of the
best ball strikers in the world watch a DECKI play
as as often as you can.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, he's he's pretty incredible ball especially ball striking.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He is.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
He's a machine. He's really be fun to watch. Lud
Ri Kayburg there too, Yeah, from Texas teak. Garrett Martin's
real good friends with him, went to tech with him.
We work with Garrett and Garrett Garrett now are going
to go watch it for sure?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
So we talked about this earlier, but I think watching
let Ludwig play and the pace at which he plays
and doesn't take a bunch of time. I would like
for seeing more amateur golfers learn his routine. You're not
going to hit it three fifty like he does. But
if you can play the routine that he does and
just you know, pick a club, get over the ball,
(07:34):
a little waggle and go and probably within ten or
twelve seconds the balls in the year, that would certainly
increase the pace of play as well.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Right, So if he gets forty second hit a shot,
I wonder if the player of this playing with him,
he gets to add that extra thirty second forty.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, yeah, he might make some money that way, something
along those lines.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, And the Valaro Texas opens just around the corner.
After the next two weeks with Bayhill and the players,
the tour ago to Tampa, Houston, and in San Antonio.
So about five six weeks away from from all of that,
all right. I found this little gadget online and I
bought it. It's in the mail. It's supposed to arrive today.
I don't think it's going to get here in time
for me to practice with it today. But it's something
(08:16):
called why Golf and it's a apple. You can look
at it, look it up if you're wanting, But basically
it's something what Tiger does with the two t's between
his putter to make sure that the ball stays online
in the first you know, foot or two of your putt.
I sent it to you guys, and you said, yeah,
that that looks pretty good. You saw it the PGA show.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Didn't you.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, And that goes back to what Tom Cavino in
minuted a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
This a little ruler called the first foot. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
You know, if you could keep it online for the
first foot, you know, you're likely to keep your line,
you know, and so forth, and any any apparatus like
that that helps you get good alignment and helps your
backstroke and your through stroke be consistent where you're hitting
the ball in the middle of the face. It's crucial for putting.
I mean, getting the ball to start online is critical.
(09:04):
I mean it's that that device you're going to get it.
I think it's got some pegs in it. Yeah, excell
A Wheels.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, is where you can go and you get a
ball goes right through.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Then if you start it at the highest setting, it's
one thirty second of an inch.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Miss So all right, Keith, welcome to the well. You
own the place now, so you are the MK family.
But thanks for being part of the show today and
we'll certainly have you on over the rest of the year.
Good luck with all the things there and keep up
the great work at MK.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Andy, thanks for having me on
this morning. Look forward to being here in the future.
And again I'm greatly appreciative of the opportunity that Mark
and Kirk have given me. So hopefully take that baton,
like I said earlier, and we'll run with it. And
we've got a lot of exciting things here in the future.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
All right, guys, see you next month.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
All right, all right, thanks Andy, Mark Vallier, current, James,
Keith Becker all part of the MK Golf family. There's
others there with Jamie and Jeremy and others to get
your clubs fit, and that's where you need to go.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
They're going to definitely treat you right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
We have utsa women's basketball today at eleven thirty on
ninety three to three the ball. The men play rights
tomorrow afternoon four thirty here on the ticket. Thanks to
Shane Carter for producing the show. We will see again
next week and getting closer to the Blaro Texas Open
as well.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's the Golf Show on the tickets.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
You've been listening to The Golf Show on sports Radio
AM seven sixty The Ticket. Brought to you by MK
Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's Golf Academy, and by Alamo City
Golf Trail. We'll tee it up again next Saturday morning
today with another edition of The Golf Show exclusively on
sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You've been listening to the podcast version of the Golf
Show on sports Radio A seven sixty The Ticket. Join
us again next time for another edition of the Golf
Show
All right, eight forty six, it's the Golf Show on
the ticket and the Everett with the guy who's from
MK Golf Tech, Mark Valier, and Kirk James and the
new owner, Keith Becker.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Glad you're all with us today. All right.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
There are some rumors floating around out there that this
deal with imminently with liv is getting closer to happening,
and apparently, well it did happen. Tiger and Adam, Scott
and Monaghan met with President Trump and usually when they
all want something to get done, they.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Figure out a way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
These days, so the tour, according to Rex Hoger, the
tour does not want to announce anything the next two
weeks because of the significance of Bay Hill and the
Players Championship. They don't want to overshadow that. But we're
going to start seeing some things leak out here pretty soon,
I think, and whatever it takes to get this deal done,
I'm hoping they get it done. But one of the
(00:51):
things that was interesting at the tg ELE event this
past week, brooks Kepka showed up. Tiger wasn't there, but
brooks Kepka showed up. And now the rumors are that
Brooks Kopka wants to play TGL, and he may be
having a little buyer's remorse for his move to Live,
and he may denounce his LIB membership at some point
and try to get reinstated to the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You okay with that?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, I guess I'm okay with that. It's interesting that
he wants to play in the TGL, but that's I
guess it's because it's basically down the street from where
it is and so it's really easy.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But here's the here's a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He's been the one that's been the most disappointed in
what Live hasn't become.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Right, here's here's the sixty four thousand pyramid question right
here to the players that didn't go to Live, get
compensated or not. And there's a camp like Roy says, hey,
we're playing for twenty million and thirty million at the players,
we don't need to be compensated. And there's guys like
JT and Jordan to go, hey, give us something for
we're being loyal to the tour.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I don't see how it happens without compensation for the players.
For our top top twenty players, Top fifteen top twenty.
I think they're going to compensate it any in some way.
I just don't see what happens without compensation personally.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Opinion on that, Keith, Yeah, from my standpoint, I think
if if the guys that stayed with the PGA Tour
are are if they can work it out, I think
everyone in golf, all of the fans, want to see
some sort of a reunification. I think that's why it's happening.
We want to see the best play against the best.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I want to see Brighton and John Ram and those guys.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
So I have no problem with it, But I think
it's the guys that stayed that have to work out.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm sure to say out the longest.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, and I actually I slightly disagree with you from
the standpoint of I don't know what Rory's net worth
is and speace net worth is, it's got to be
pretty high. I'm curious with the guys a little bit
further down the list on the PGA Tour that don't
have that net worth right, that's stuck with it, that
probably could have made the jump and got paid one
hundred million or or something crazy. How do you work
(03:06):
it out?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
With them, right, Yeah, Well, there are so many issues
with that.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
How far down the list do you got exactly?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Because like Billy, who next on the list is going
to be Like, if Billy Horschel doesn't get paid, the
only person that's going to care that you didn't get
paid is Billy Horschell. But if jordan' spe doesn't get
paid or JT doesn't get paid, now everybody's going to
be on their side because they're more of a marquee
marquee star and Billy is a good player, but is
relevance isn't what?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
He's not moving the needle on a on a TV deal? Yeah,
And who's paying them? And where's the money coming from who?
There's so many issues involved in that. You could just
go on and on and on. But I thought they
were I thought that they were talking about giving equity
ownership in the PGA tour to some guy that work
(03:57):
that's your part, because that makes more sense making partners.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, because if you want.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
This to succeed, then that'll be good for you because
it is now a public I mean it's it's they
set up a for profit.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right, the tournaments will be nonprofit, but the tour arm
of it will be will be no longer for a
one C three.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yes, so they could give them interest in that company.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
If there's compensation money, it's gonna probably come from piff
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And they got plenty of it here. And they got
plenty of They have a trillion dollar fund. They can
write a check to anybody for anything. All right, what
was it going to do?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Luke?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Clinton finished high enough this week at Cognizant as an amateur,
he had to make the cut. He has now got
his PGA Tour card. Now, don't feel sorry for him
for not taking price money, because I'm sure Florida State's
compensating him well through NIL. But Keith, you played college
golf and the landscape was vastly different back in the
(04:57):
day than it is now for top notch college golfers.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
It was, yeah, nowadays it's it's completely different. In fact,
we actually have a part timer with us at MK
fantastic guy plays college golf locally and he's got an
n IL deal. And so I was when I was playing.
Unless you were a Ben Hogan Award winner, unless you
were an All American, just just kind of next level.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Those were the guys that.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Were getting all of the new equipment and kind of
getting their hands on things. But nowadays it's just changed
so much, and Nils has completely changed the landscape. So
to your point, Andy, ye, I think Luke's doing just fine.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Straw that broke the camel's back for Tiger to turn
pro was when he went to Pebble Beach and had
dinner with Arnold Palmer, and the NCAA suspended him for
two tournaments because Arnold Palmer paid for the dinner and
they made Tiger give him write him a check, which
Arnold Palmer tore up the check after he gave him
the check because of the forty dollars dinner or fifty
dollar dinner at Pebble Beach. And Tiger said, I'm out
(06:02):
of here. I'm going to win the US Amateur and
I'm turning pro. And now Tiger could think about what
kind of ni all money Tiger could get. Now if
you playing in college at this.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Level, a forty dollars dinner check won't even pay for
a drink there.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Now, Yeah, yeah, it's a little it's a little more expensive.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Well, we were chatting out the break when I was playing.
I don't remember the exact dollar figure. But it was
it was not even a four figure sum. It was
like three hundred or seven fifty or something like that
for the year.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But if you accepted above.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
That amount, I mean you lost your amateur status and
the rules have just completely changed.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, it's all, it's all a different thing right now.
All right, good to announce the the Valero Texas Open.
Dekie Matzi, Yama, Sam Burns, and Ricky Fowler committed this week.
I encourage anybody that wants to see one of the
best ball strikers in the world watch a DECKI play
as as often as you can.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, he's he's pretty incredible ball especially ball striking.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He is.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
He's a machine. He's really be fun to watch. Lud
Ri Kayburg there too, Yeah, from Texas teak. Garrett Martin's
real good friends with him, went to tech with him.
We work with Garrett and Garrett Garrett now are going
to go watch it for sure?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
So we talked about this earlier, but I think watching
let Ludwig play and the pace at which he plays
and doesn't take a bunch of time. I would like
for seeing more amateur golfers learn his routine. You're not
going to hit it three fifty like he does. But
if you can play the routine that he does and
just you know, pick a club, get over the ball,
(07:34):
a little waggle and go and probably within ten or
twelve seconds the balls in the year, that would certainly
increase the pace of play as well.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Right, So if he gets forty second hit a shot,
I wonder if the player of this playing with him,
he gets to add that extra thirty second forty.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, yeah, he might make some money that way, something
along those lines.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, And the Valaro Texas opens just around the corner.
After the next two weeks with Bayhill and the players,
the tour ago to Tampa, Houston, and in San Antonio.
So about five six weeks away from from all of that,
all right. I found this little gadget online and I
bought it. It's in the mail. It's supposed to arrive today.
I don't think it's going to get here in time
for me to practice with it today. But it's something
(08:16):
called why Golf and it's a apple. You can look
at it, look it up if you're wanting, But basically
it's something what Tiger does with the two t's between
his putter to make sure that the ball stays online
in the first you know, foot or two of your putt.
I sent it to you guys, and you said, yeah,
that that looks pretty good. You saw it the PGA show.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Didn't you.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, And that goes back to what Tom Cavino in
minuted a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
This a little ruler called the first foot. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
You know, if you could keep it online for the
first foot, you know, you're likely to keep your line,
you know, and so forth, and any any apparatus like
that that helps you get good alignment and helps your
backstroke and your through stroke be consistent where you're hitting
the ball in the middle of the face. It's crucial for putting.
I mean, getting the ball to start online is critical.
(09:04):
I mean it's that that device you're going to get it.
I think it's got some pegs in it. Yeah, excell
A Wheels.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, is where you can go and you get a
ball goes right through.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Then if you start it at the highest setting, it's
one thirty second of an inch.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Miss So all right, Keith, welcome to the well. You
own the place now, so you are the MK family.
But thanks for being part of the show today and
we'll certainly have you on over the rest of the year.
Good luck with all the things there and keep up
the great work at MK.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Andy, thanks for having me on
this morning. Look forward to being here in the future.
And again I'm greatly appreciative of the opportunity that Mark
and Kirk have given me. So hopefully take that baton,
like I said earlier, and we'll run with it. And
we've got a lot of exciting things here in the future.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
All right, guys, see you next month.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
All right, all right, thanks Andy, Mark Vallier, current, James,
Keith Becker all part of the MK Golf family. There's
others there with Jamie and Jeremy and others to get
your clubs fit, and that's where you need to go.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
They're going to definitely treat you right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
We have utsa women's basketball today at eleven thirty on
ninety three to three the ball. The men play rights
tomorrow afternoon four thirty here on the ticket. Thanks to
Shane Carter for producing the show. We will see again
next week and getting closer to the Blaro Texas Open
as well.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's the Golf Show on the tickets.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
You've been listening to The Golf Show on sports Radio
AM seven sixty The Ticket. Brought to you by MK
Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's Golf Academy, and by Alamo City
Golf Trail. We'll tee it up again next Saturday morning
today with another edition of The Golf Show exclusively on
sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You've been listening to the podcast version of the Golf
Show on sports Radio A seven sixty The Ticket. Join
us again next time for another edition of the Golf
Show
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