April 12, 2025 • 13 mins
Once one of the faces of golf, has become a villain of the sport.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Masters Saturday, looking forward to the rounds three and four.
Let's see if who wins it this week. We'll talk
more about that coming up here in a bit. I
brought this up yesterday on the Afternoon Show, and I
was watching Phil Micholson play his way out of the tournament.
He was under the cut line and then hit it
in the water on fifteen and then hit a terrible
shot on sixteen in the water.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He imploded. Yeah, and so his his week is over.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I look at the Phil Micholson situation as I'll use
the word tragedy, and it's like I use like Greek tragedy,
a play that just ends in tragic fashion. And it
wasn't too long ago that he won a PGA championship
at Kiawa to standing ovation and terrors and the big
(00:48):
Phil Micholson smile and everybody in the world liked him.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And if you fast forward.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
To now, I don't think I saw Phil smile one week.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
One minute that he was on TV.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
He may given a kid a thumbs up and tossed
him a golf ball or something like that, but there
was never any emotion. There was never any animation. He
just stoically played the round of golf. He looked like
he didn't want to be there. He looked like everybody
in it looked like he felt like everybody in the
crowd was against him. And here's the guy that three
(01:20):
years ago, had he not said the things he said
about the PGA Tour and the vorociousness at how he
did it and then go to live and then continue
to bad mouth the PGA Tour and Shaye Monahan and
it's the way that it rules with an iron fist
and all this. I think Philip should be the Ryder
(01:42):
Cup captain this year. That was out the window when
he did all this. This was his We were talking
six years ago when they said Ryder Cup twenty twenty
five at Bethpage. That's Phil's Ryder Cup. That's New York.
The fans love him. This will be the US team
will dominate, The fans will be behind Phil.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's out the window.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
He did a segment with CBS TV a few years
ago where he did color in the booth and he
was amazing at it. And he would have been amazing
at it if he'd wanted to start that anytime soon.
And I don't know if Phil's life has all been
the best ever, or if there's a lot of fakeness
to it, there's there's a lot. I've talked to a
lot of caddies that caddy at these resorts that I
(02:21):
play at, but also caddy on the PGA Tour. And
if you ever want to know a story about a
PGA Tour a player, just go ask a caddy. They'll
tell you the whole story because they know it all.
And that caddy circle is is full of great stories.
But that you know, some will tell Phil he's the
nicest person that's ever been around. Others will say he's fake.
(02:42):
It's interesting that you that Jim McKay never really wants
to bring up his name. They brought up his name
on on a on the on the Tampa Tournament a
couple of weeks ago, and he just said yes and
just agreed with whatever the other people said. He didn't
want to talk about him. And here's the guy that
had the world three years ago, and it just seems
(03:02):
like he didn't have anybody left, got amy, He's got
his kids and that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Does he even do interviews, I've not seen one. I mean,
so he obviously has got demons somewhere in his in
his persona. I mean, because you know, he didn't want
to answer tough questions or whatever the reason, but he
didn't do interviews.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So when he's on the PGA Tour event where they're
majors or whatever, so.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
You know he's he's almost like a tragic accident.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You know that he's still walking.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But I mean, I'm not familiar with Shakespearean plays to
be able to make an analogy to that. I think
I read Romeo and Juliet when I was in eighth grade,
but that's about the last time I do that. But
you hear the word Greek tragedy in your English classes
and stuff like that. I mean, I think fills an
English tragedy and it's a shame it didn't have to
(03:56):
be this way. If he could have had some closed
door meetings with Jay Monahan, this live mass likely wouldn't
have happened. And I think they gotta work some things out.
But Phil took the low road and he's.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Paying for it. Yeah, but ITW's fault, is it Phils? Exactly? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Admittedly I didn't see every shot of the round yesterday,
but I found it odd. It's kind of a two
way street, right so I'm watching the broadcast and all
of a sudden, he pops up on I think he
was on like twelve or thirteen, and he's won over.
This is, you know, Friday one over inside the cut line.
I can't think of any golf tournament ever. I mean,
there's just certain guys like they show every shot of
(04:30):
Tiger's round, regardless of how he's playing. Every single shot
will be aired and broadcast. Phil's kind of in that category.
Two if he's inside the cut line. They used to
show every shot he hit. And I just found it
odd that you know he's he's in the cut line.
He's gonna be around for the weekend. Obviously he imploded.
He hit it in the water a couple of times
and that didn't happen. But I found it odd that,
(04:52):
you know, I'm sitting there watching it on. Oh wow,
Phil's playing pretty good. I haven't seen any.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I thought he's gonna get the cut. Yeah he was.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I mean, if he doesn't dump a the water on fifteen,
because it was a pretty easy pitch shot, he makes
birdie there, he's even then he hits I don't know
what he hit into sixteen, but he didn't even get
close to the green. It was a snaphook into the
water or a or push lights for him, but it
was it looked like it was a mishit. But I
never see the smile. I never see. You don't hear
(05:20):
the Phil roar when Phil makes a putt. There's no
there's no yelling. The fans are more subdued. It's just
not the same fill. And it's happened in two and
a half three years, And I think that's try. Whether
he's fake or not, whether you like him or not,
he was important to the PGA Tour for a long time.
I don't think he did a two zero Wednesday press
conference in Augusta this year. He always did that. He's
(05:42):
a three time champion of the event.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And that's kind of what I'm saying. I wonder if
it's a two way street in terms of, yeah, he's
he's bitter, but is the PGA Tour bitter as well?
I think everyone is, and God, we talk about this
all the time. But I just wish they would figure
it out and figure out this little reunification because I
do think that that would solve a lot of this
and we'd get some of those smiles.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
He could be winning five or six Champions Tour events
a year. He could be on CBS, he could be
the Ryder Cup captain. There's so much he could more
he could have done. And listen, I know he has
a gambling addiction and it turned out to be a
gambling No, absolutely not. But he took the live money
because he had to get it. And most everybody will
tell you he was so in debt to gamblers that
(06:24):
he needed three hundred million dollars to get flush.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You go back in time, though, if he hadn't had
a gamble, debt doesn't live ever happen.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
They needed somebody like Phil do mega happen. They needed Phil.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean, Sergio can whine a little bit at times,
but he's not Phil. Phil was was the anti hero
to Tiger, and it was and Phil and Tiger had
this rightley. They hardly ever played together. They hardly ever
had down the stretch matches together. There was one time
I remember at Durrell where Tiger beat him, but there
was always that uh, and you always thought that there
(06:57):
would be this. Like Jack and Arnie were not friends
in the sixties. They became friends in the eighties and
nineties and on and you thought this reunification could take
place there, But I just find it. I watched Phil
and there's not a He doesn't crack a smile. He
looks like, yeah, I want to come back here because
I love this place, but nobody loves me anymore. Well
(07:17):
that's his fault. Just on a little side note of this.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But you know, we don't see the human side of
these people very often, but yesterday there was a big
delay on thirteen I think, and I think it was JT.
There's a camera in the wall somewhere and he's bending
down with his face in the camera making kind of
like having fun.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They're waiting for their hitter shots. But they showed more
of a human side of these people. They need to
do more that, I think. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm surprised he didn't get fined or.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Something by pasta. They probably missed that one. Well, he
wasn't even when he did that. Somebody else did it
later a camera who was all right?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Gary Player was in the media center on Wednesday after
the part three contest. Gary Player is about to turn
ninety and he shot one under one holes on the
par three. He will tell you that he's broken. He
shot his age or better the last three thousand times
he's played golf, because he's played golf pretty much every day,
probably plays three hundred and twenty rounds a year, and
(08:12):
he's done so for the last ten or fifteen years.
And he was asking the media room, he said, when
the person asking the question said, when Tiger was here
in nineteen ninety seven, he had this superstition that he
had to go to Arby's every night for a snack
or for dinner or for food. I'm wondering, when was
(08:32):
the last time you ate fast food? And he's like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Never.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He said, you don't get to be nighty by putting
crap in your body, and he basically gave a three
minute lecture on this is how you got to live.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And he has I look this up.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
There's ten things he does every day, and it's red,
it's meditate, it's prey. It's he only eats two meals
a day, a late breakfast and a late lunch. He
doesn't eat, you know, past six o'clock at night. He
doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke and never really has, and
he occasionally indulges in a dessert, but it's once a
month at most and he works out every day and
(09:12):
he can still run six miles an hour on the
treadmill at ninety years old. I want to be him,
except I don't know that I could do to have
the discipline that he has, well.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Not not having the education and in that background, as
far as being a doctor or physician and understanding the body.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I know my body, and I know what I need
to do.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But I wonder if Nicholas had done the same thing,
would he looked just like that today? Because each body
is different, you know, and it was. Would Nicholas's genetics
have allowed him to be just like Gary today if
they don't exactly the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
My my answer is probably no. Well, Gary Player's answer
would be yes. And Gary Player says if Jack Nicholas
would have taken care of himself between sixty five and
seventy five, he'd won thirty majors and he would have
been runner up fifty more times because he said there
was no competition for him there. The difference now is
Tiger finally had competition. Tiger didn't have a lot of
(10:11):
competition ninety seven to about four, but by then they
started catching up to him competition wise, Tiger just outworked everybody.
But Gary Player's opinion is Jack Nicholas ate and smoked
him his ten years off his life when he was
in his twenties and thirties.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But Tiger lost multiple majors because he didn't carry his
life correctly.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And he didn't and he did and he over worked out.
He went for strength and stead of flexibility.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
When Elon hit him with a golf club through his Cadillac,
that probably took a few majors away.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, that may do it.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The other player, and we talked about this yesterday on
the show and we were talking about it during the break.
It's kind of a shame that both Fred Couples and
Bernhard Longer didn't make the cut. This was Bernhard Longer's
final trip around Augusta. He is not going to play
the Masters anymore. But he's another guy. And when he
won the Champions Tour event here about ten years ago
at a TPC, he talked about, I just have this
(11:06):
discipline of bad food. I don't eat bad stuff and
I don't care how expensive it is. That's something that
I put a priority on. And I'm not eating junk
and I'm working out every day. And this is the result,
and if you can have that discipline to do that,
you can be him too.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah, I think there's a there's a healthy balance too.
You've got no doubt. If you want to be fit,
if you want to be if you want to look
like those guys at sixty five seventy eighty, you have
to have a routine, you have to be disciplined. But
I think there's a balance too. I mean, how many
people want to every single day over and over and
(11:42):
never have dessert, never have a drink, never have you know.
I think there's something to life as well as just
striking that balance a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I worked.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You know, my background outside of golf is in healthcare
and a big portion of that in the geriatric population.
And so one of the things that always kind of
puzzled me was that, over and over again when you
see these you know, one hundred and six year olds,
and you ask them, you know, what's what's the key,
what's what's the secret thing? And over and over and
(12:15):
over again, one drink a day. They all say it alcohol.
I don't not not to not to excess, but one
drink a day at most. Uh And and there is
something I think to not that I'm advocating for drinking obviously,
but there is something too striking that balance of eating healthy. Uh, exercising,
(12:38):
No doubt, exercising plays a huge role. Genetics is a
big factor as well. But but I think there's something
to be said for just just your overall happiness every
single day, being happy. Stress I think is the silent killer.
So eliminating stress I think is a big part of
it too. And just being happy, I think I think
that's a big part of it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And and Gary and and Bernhardt are examples of that.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Sure they did the right thing for themselves, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
All Right, we got to cut one more segment to go,
and we'll do that next.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's the Golf Show on the tickets.
Masters Saturday, looking forward to the rounds three and four.
Let's see if who wins it this week. We'll talk
more about that coming up here in a bit. I
brought this up yesterday on the Afternoon Show, and I
was watching Phil Micholson play his way out of the tournament.
He was under the cut line and then hit it
in the water on fifteen and then hit a terrible
shot on sixteen in the water.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He imploded. Yeah, and so his his week is over.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I look at the Phil Micholson situation as I'll use
the word tragedy, and it's like I use like Greek tragedy,
a play that just ends in tragic fashion. And it
wasn't too long ago that he won a PGA championship
at Kiawa to standing ovation and terrors and the big
(00:48):
Phil Micholson smile and everybody in the world liked him.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And if you fast forward.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
To now, I don't think I saw Phil smile one week.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
One minute that he was on TV.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
He may given a kid a thumbs up and tossed
him a golf ball or something like that, but there
was never any emotion. There was never any animation. He
just stoically played the round of golf. He looked like
he didn't want to be there. He looked like everybody
in it looked like he felt like everybody in the
crowd was against him. And here's the guy that three
(01:20):
years ago, had he not said the things he said
about the PGA Tour and the vorociousness at how he
did it and then go to live and then continue
to bad mouth the PGA Tour and Shaye Monahan and
it's the way that it rules with an iron fist
and all this. I think Philip should be the Ryder
(01:42):
Cup captain this year. That was out the window when
he did all this. This was his We were talking
six years ago when they said Ryder Cup twenty twenty
five at Bethpage. That's Phil's Ryder Cup. That's New York.
The fans love him. This will be the US team
will dominate, The fans will be behind Phil.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's out the window.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
He did a segment with CBS TV a few years
ago where he did color in the booth and he
was amazing at it. And he would have been amazing
at it if he'd wanted to start that anytime soon.
And I don't know if Phil's life has all been
the best ever, or if there's a lot of fakeness
to it, there's there's a lot. I've talked to a
lot of caddies that caddy at these resorts that I
(02:21):
play at, but also caddy on the PGA Tour. And
if you ever want to know a story about a
PGA Tour a player, just go ask a caddy. They'll
tell you the whole story because they know it all.
And that caddy circle is is full of great stories.
But that you know, some will tell Phil he's the
nicest person that's ever been around. Others will say he's fake.
(02:42):
It's interesting that you that Jim McKay never really wants
to bring up his name. They brought up his name
on on a on the on the Tampa Tournament a
couple of weeks ago, and he just said yes and
just agreed with whatever the other people said. He didn't
want to talk about him. And here's the guy that
had the world three years ago, and it just seems
(03:02):
like he didn't have anybody left, got amy, He's got
his kids and that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Does he even do interviews, I've not seen one. I mean,
so he obviously has got demons somewhere in his in
his persona. I mean, because you know, he didn't want
to answer tough questions or whatever the reason, but he
didn't do interviews.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So when he's on the PGA Tour event where they're
majors or whatever, so.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
You know he's he's almost like a tragic accident.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You know that he's still walking.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But I mean, I'm not familiar with Shakespearean plays to
be able to make an analogy to that. I think
I read Romeo and Juliet when I was in eighth grade,
but that's about the last time I do that. But
you hear the word Greek tragedy in your English classes
and stuff like that. I mean, I think fills an
English tragedy and it's a shame it didn't have to
(03:56):
be this way. If he could have had some closed
door meetings with Jay Monahan, this live mass likely wouldn't
have happened. And I think they gotta work some things out.
But Phil took the low road and he's.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Paying for it. Yeah, but ITW's fault, is it Phils? Exactly? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Admittedly I didn't see every shot of the round yesterday,
but I found it odd. It's kind of a two
way street, right so I'm watching the broadcast and all
of a sudden, he pops up on I think he
was on like twelve or thirteen, and he's won over.
This is, you know, Friday one over inside the cut line.
I can't think of any golf tournament ever. I mean,
there's just certain guys like they show every shot of
(04:30):
Tiger's round, regardless of how he's playing. Every single shot
will be aired and broadcast. Phil's kind of in that category.
Two if he's inside the cut line. They used to
show every shot he hit. And I just found it
odd that you know he's he's in the cut line.
He's gonna be around for the weekend. Obviously he imploded.
He hit it in the water a couple of times
and that didn't happen. But I found it odd that,
(04:52):
you know, I'm sitting there watching it on. Oh wow,
Phil's playing pretty good. I haven't seen any.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I thought he's gonna get the cut. Yeah he was.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I mean, if he doesn't dump a the water on fifteen,
because it was a pretty easy pitch shot, he makes
birdie there, he's even then he hits I don't know
what he hit into sixteen, but he didn't even get
close to the green. It was a snaphook into the
water or a or push lights for him, but it
was it looked like it was a mishit. But I
never see the smile. I never see. You don't hear
(05:20):
the Phil roar when Phil makes a putt. There's no
there's no yelling. The fans are more subdued. It's just
not the same fill. And it's happened in two and
a half three years, And I think that's try. Whether
he's fake or not, whether you like him or not,
he was important to the PGA Tour for a long time.
I don't think he did a two zero Wednesday press
conference in Augusta this year. He always did that. He's
(05:42):
a three time champion of the event.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And that's kind of what I'm saying. I wonder if
it's a two way street in terms of, yeah, he's
he's bitter, but is the PGA Tour bitter as well?
I think everyone is, and God, we talk about this
all the time. But I just wish they would figure
it out and figure out this little reunification because I
do think that that would solve a lot of this
and we'd get some of those smiles.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
He could be winning five or six Champions Tour events
a year. He could be on CBS, he could be
the Ryder Cup captain. There's so much he could more
he could have done. And listen, I know he has
a gambling addiction and it turned out to be a
gambling No, absolutely not. But he took the live money
because he had to get it. And most everybody will
tell you he was so in debt to gamblers that
(06:24):
he needed three hundred million dollars to get flush.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You go back in time, though, if he hadn't had
a gamble, debt doesn't live ever happen.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
They needed somebody like Phil do mega happen. They needed Phil.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean, Sergio can whine a little bit at times,
but he's not Phil. Phil was was the anti hero
to Tiger, and it was and Phil and Tiger had
this rightley. They hardly ever played together. They hardly ever
had down the stretch matches together. There was one time
I remember at Durrell where Tiger beat him, but there
was always that uh, and you always thought that there
(06:57):
would be this. Like Jack and Arnie were not friends
in the sixties. They became friends in the eighties and
nineties and on and you thought this reunification could take
place there, But I just find it. I watched Phil
and there's not a He doesn't crack a smile. He
looks like, yeah, I want to come back here because
I love this place, but nobody loves me anymore. Well
(07:17):
that's his fault. Just on a little side note of this.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But you know, we don't see the human side of
these people very often, but yesterday there was a big
delay on thirteen I think, and I think it was JT.
There's a camera in the wall somewhere and he's bending
down with his face in the camera making kind of
like having fun.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They're waiting for their hitter shots. But they showed more
of a human side of these people. They need to
do more that, I think. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm surprised he didn't get fined or.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Something by pasta. They probably missed that one. Well, he
wasn't even when he did that. Somebody else did it
later a camera who was all right?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Gary Player was in the media center on Wednesday after
the part three contest. Gary Player is about to turn
ninety and he shot one under one holes on the
par three. He will tell you that he's broken. He
shot his age or better the last three thousand times
he's played golf, because he's played golf pretty much every day,
probably plays three hundred and twenty rounds a year, and
(08:12):
he's done so for the last ten or fifteen years.
And he was asking the media room, he said, when
the person asking the question said, when Tiger was here
in nineteen ninety seven, he had this superstition that he
had to go to Arby's every night for a snack
or for dinner or for food. I'm wondering, when was
(08:32):
the last time you ate fast food? And he's like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Never.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He said, you don't get to be nighty by putting
crap in your body, and he basically gave a three
minute lecture on this is how you got to live.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And he has I look this up.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
There's ten things he does every day, and it's red,
it's meditate, it's prey. It's he only eats two meals
a day, a late breakfast and a late lunch. He
doesn't eat, you know, past six o'clock at night. He
doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke and never really has, and
he occasionally indulges in a dessert, but it's once a
month at most and he works out every day and
(09:12):
he can still run six miles an hour on the
treadmill at ninety years old. I want to be him,
except I don't know that I could do to have
the discipline that he has, well.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Not not having the education and in that background, as
far as being a doctor or physician and understanding the body.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I know my body, and I know what I need
to do.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But I wonder if Nicholas had done the same thing,
would he looked just like that today? Because each body
is different, you know, and it was. Would Nicholas's genetics
have allowed him to be just like Gary today if
they don't exactly the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
My my answer is probably no. Well, Gary Player's answer
would be yes. And Gary Player says if Jack Nicholas
would have taken care of himself between sixty five and
seventy five, he'd won thirty majors and he would have
been runner up fifty more times because he said there
was no competition for him there. The difference now is
Tiger finally had competition. Tiger didn't have a lot of
(10:11):
competition ninety seven to about four, but by then they
started catching up to him competition wise, Tiger just outworked everybody.
But Gary Player's opinion is Jack Nicholas ate and smoked
him his ten years off his life when he was
in his twenties and thirties.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But Tiger lost multiple majors because he didn't carry his
life correctly.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And he didn't and he did and he over worked out.
He went for strength and stead of flexibility.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
When Elon hit him with a golf club through his Cadillac,
that probably took a few majors away.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, that may do it.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The other player, and we talked about this yesterday on
the show and we were talking about it during the break.
It's kind of a shame that both Fred Couples and
Bernhard Longer didn't make the cut. This was Bernhard Longer's
final trip around Augusta. He is not going to play
the Masters anymore. But he's another guy. And when he
won the Champions Tour event here about ten years ago
at a TPC, he talked about, I just have this
(11:06):
discipline of bad food. I don't eat bad stuff and
I don't care how expensive it is. That's something that
I put a priority on. And I'm not eating junk
and I'm working out every day. And this is the result,
and if you can have that discipline to do that,
you can be him too.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah, I think there's a there's a healthy balance too.
You've got no doubt. If you want to be fit,
if you want to be if you want to look
like those guys at sixty five seventy eighty, you have
to have a routine, you have to be disciplined. But
I think there's a balance too. I mean, how many
people want to every single day over and over and
(11:42):
never have dessert, never have a drink, never have you know.
I think there's something to life as well as just
striking that balance a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I worked.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You know, my background outside of golf is in healthcare
and a big portion of that in the geriatric population.
And so one of the things that always kind of
puzzled me was that, over and over again when you
see these you know, one hundred and six year olds,
and you ask them, you know, what's what's the key,
what's what's the secret thing? And over and over and
(12:15):
over again, one drink a day. They all say it alcohol.
I don't not not to not to excess, but one
drink a day at most. Uh And and there is
something I think to not that I'm advocating for drinking obviously,
but there is something too striking that balance of eating healthy. Uh, exercising,
(12:38):
No doubt, exercising plays a huge role. Genetics is a
big factor as well. But but I think there's something
to be said for just just your overall happiness every
single day, being happy. Stress I think is the silent killer.
So eliminating stress I think is a big part of
it too. And just being happy, I think I think
that's a big part of it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And and Gary and and Bernhardt are examples of that.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Sure they did the right thing for themselves, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
All Right, we got to cut one more segment to go,
and we'll do that next.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's the Golf Show on the tickets.
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