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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everyone, It's Andy Everett. Enjoy this podcast version of
The Golf Show from sports Radio AM seven sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The Ticket.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Now from sports Radio AM seven sixty to the Ticket.
This is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf
Show brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's
Golf Academy, and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on
the first t Andy Everett.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, here we go on a Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's time to Todd Golf as the PGA Championship is
getting ready for its third round. They should have already
been underway, but we'll tell you why they're not here
in just a second.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm Andy Everett.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Our producer of the program today is Tay Suchik. Ty
is a really good player and good athlete as well.
We're going to talk to him at the end of
the show because this year, about a year or so ago,
he got fit for the first time and got some
new golf clubs. We're going to talk to you about
club fitting in a while.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's important. In the eight.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thirty segment today, Tim from Golf Week will join us
as we talked PGA and Roy struggling at the after
the Master's Hangover and a few other things there, and
in about fifteen minutes or so, Brian Gathwright will join us.
One of the top teachers in the country according to
Golf Digest, and one of the best in San Antonio.
Was a founder with me on this golf show some
(01:19):
almost twenty nine years ago when we started out at
Lock and Terra the Resa.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
We're going to have Brian on.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
He teaches a lot of young players in San Antonio,
Mack Meiser and Mitchell Meser. I believe he teaches both
of them. He also is the swing coach for Johnny Kiefer,
who won a corn Ferry Tour event not too long
ago and vaulted up from two hundred and thirteen in
the world to ninety three, and that's what got him
in the PGA Championship this year. And Johnny did not
(01:47):
make the cut, shot seven over for two rounds. But
we're going to talk to him about Johnny's future, which
seems to be bright.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
The PGA Championship was supposed to get underway this morning
about an hour ago, but it's lightning and raining and
in the Charlotte area the storms are supposed to be
out of the way by about ten o'clock Eastern time,
so we're about an hour away from the storms being gone.
That will allow the players to get back to the
driving range and rewarm up. And if you've got a
(02:15):
pairing sheet from what you saw last night that was published,
well you can throw that away. Instead of going everybody
going off the first tee, they're going to go off
both one in ten in groups of three, and they
are putting the pairings together as we speak, and maybe
before the show is over with, we'll have some of
the marquee players, so they have to kind of work
(02:36):
on the fly and get everybody in the last tea
time today will be around one o'clock San Antonio time,
and they'll finish a little laughter five point thirty this evening.
Jonathan Vegas is the leader, and Johnny has had some
good success on the PGA Tour over the years, but
he's never won a major. He is originally from Venezuela
that played his college golf at Texas and we'll see
(02:58):
if he can hold on. Got a couple of shots
lead in this event going forward, and Jonathan's hit the
ball in play a lot. He's gotten some breaks when
he's in it offline. He got a ricochet off of
a rake yesterday to go keep from going in the
bunker into a good spot on the green. So we'll
see if Jonathan Vegas can do that as well. See
(03:18):
who Kim is right behind him. They'll be in that
final grouping today. As soon as they get all the
pairings out, we'll share those with you. Scotty Scheffler was
able to win last week, shooting thirty one under par
at the Truest Championship. That was somewhat ridiculous. But Scotty
is in contention again, a few shots off the lead
and just continues to play good, solid golf, and I
(03:41):
would not be surprised if he's in that final group
come tomorrow. I would expect another sub seventy round from
him coming up today. Now we're gonna talk a little
bit about Roy McElroy here. There's a number of things
going on with Rory number one. He was struggling this week.
I think a lot of this still has to do
with the hangover from the Masters. He finally got that
(04:01):
mucky off his his back. He finally was able to decompress,
and he didn't play great, but he played okay. With
Shane Lowry at the event the Zurich in New Orleans,
the team event, but he is not hit the ball
where he's aiming this week, and one of the reasons
why is apparently Rory has had to switch drivers after
(04:22):
Tuesday on the driving range, and from time to time
players either ask or the competition committee asks if they
can or demands basically to test the player's drivers to
see if it is conforming. Now, let's explain what this
conforming thing means. Several years ago, the golf clubs were
(04:44):
deemed to in some cases be quote unquote too hot.
So when you see a slow motion video of the
ball hitting the club face and you probably have seen
this before on TV, there is a little bit of
flex in the face of that driver where it comes in,
it kind of bows in a little bit, and then
(05:04):
as the club is rebounding, it springs forward to propel
the ball to where its target is. And several years
ago the usgn RNA came up with a number, and
this is a scientific number, and I'm not really sure
how they came up with this, but basically, if it
springs at zero point eighty six or more, it is
(05:25):
not it's too hot. It's what they call the trampoline
effect or a spring like effect. So think of a
rubber band. You're holding it on your left hand, you're
stretching out with your right and you let it go.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It go a certain distance, but if that rubber band is.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Only pulled back an inch or two instead of five
or six, is not going to go as far. So
it's a spring like effect that is going to propel
that golf ball. And every manufacturer on the planet goes
to the nth degree that they possibly can to still
be conforming. Now, when the manufacturers bill drivers, even though
the all come from the same mold and mike, you
(06:01):
would have to have a microscope to tell the difference.
It's kind of like DNA. Every driver head is slightly different,
maybe by millisec millimeters and half half a millimeters and
all that depending on where the mass is in the club.
So they'll give Rory or any other player that's their
representative several heads and several shafts for him to go
(06:22):
try out, and he picks one that he likes the best. Well,
when they do this testing, they do it on what
they call the iron Byron machine, which they set it
one hundred and five miles an hour, and they say, Okay,
it doesn't spring anymore than whatever it's supposed to spring
at one hundred and five miles an hour, so it's conforming.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Go play with it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well, when you're a professional golfer like Roy McElroy, this
happened is Andrew Shoffley a few years ago, you're going
to probably hit that driver six hundred times during the week.
You're definitely going to hit it probably twelve to fifteen
to twelve to fourteen times on a regular golf course
in around, but you're also going to probably hit one
hundred golf balls a day with it in.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Your practice sessions.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And like anything that is made of metal or pretty
much any other material, as that golf club gets hit
so many times, it's going to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Get thinner and thinner and thinner.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And some players like Bryce and the Shambeau and really
big hitters have been known to cave in clubs to
where they're broken. Basically, well, that's going to make that
golf club a little bit thinner, and then when you
go and test it, it's going to be outside those
numbers that it was a few weeks ago. Now there's
a lot of people that are wondering, did Rory play
with this club at the Masters? My guess is he
(07:36):
probably did. He wasn't talking after his first two rounds
at the PGA in the media sessions. I don't know
if he just thought he did want to, or wasn't
requested or whatever. I'm sure that question will come up
at some point when he does his next interview.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And a lot of people are like, oh.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Is the Master's tainted because he used a driver that
may have been non conforming. No, it's not, because it
probably he was conforming at some point and it became
non conforming on Tuesday when they tested it this week.
When a golfer like Roy swings one hundred and twenty
one hundred and twenty five miles an hour, it really
doesn't matter how and you do that five hundred times
(08:14):
with one club, at some point that golf club is
going to go out of whack, and it's going to
happen to every player on the PGA Tour, unless it's
somebody that constantly is changing drivers. So Rory had to
play with the backup this week instead of the gamer,
and you could tell it was just off a little
bit as the ball was going left a lot, he
still has a chance. He's going to probably have to
(08:35):
shoot somewhere around sixty five sixty four today to put
himself back into contention. So remember that it's not going
to matter to you and I, because unless you are
a really skilled golfer, the chances of you hitting the
ball above one hundred and five miles an hour aren't
very good. I think the last time I was tested,
I was between ninety nine and one oh one. And
(08:57):
most people are probably play recreational or either there or
below that. And there's certainly some players that play recreational
that are big and strong and can generate a lot
of clubhead speed, and everybody's a little bit different. But
understand that while they were discussing this last night. Players
never have any intent to have a club that's not conforming,
(09:17):
but you hit it often enough and it may at
some point become just that. So we'll see what happens
today with Rory and see if he can rebound. I'm
guessing that the one golf tournament he wants more than
any other is to wait on his home country at
royal Port Rush later in the year in July, when
the Open Championship goes there all right. Hedeki Matziyama's major
(09:38):
cut streak was snapped. He's been struggling a little bit
since the beginning of the year, so he won't be
around for the weekend. He had made nineteen straight cuts
in the majors. Xander Shoffley extends his current overall cut streak,
which I think now is at sixty and that is
the longest street currently on the PGA Tour. And we
saw a siding from Max Homa this week. Max has
made a couple of swing changes. He's got a new caddy,
(10:00):
a new swing coach, and some of the things they've
been working on that has made him miss a lot
of cuts over the last year. Maybe starting to come
into play a little bit better as Max is in
contention at five under par and he has a chance
the eagle to par four yesterday, one of the driverable
par fours at Quail Hollow, and that put the ball
right out there about a foot from the hole and
(10:20):
he's able to make eagle. When we visit with Tim
Schmid here in a little bit, we're going to talk
about this. I think Quayle Hollow would be a fun
members golf course now understand they're playing it at seventy
four hundred yards with deep rough and really fast greens.
So if you knock those greens with slow them down
to maybe an inch or inch and a half and
instead of them being fourteen to fifteen, get them down
(10:40):
to eleven twelve, play from a reasonable distance around sixty
five hundred yards and get cut the rough the way
that golf course lays out. I think it would be
a lot of fun to play. I'm not sure what
the guest restrictions are, but I would certainly like to
play that golf course sometime.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I watch it every year when.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
The Wells Fargo Now Rush Championship is there, and it
looks like a great golf course. The last three holes
really really difficult, and you know they're going to have
that pin on Sunday on seventeen tucked way over the
left to dare people that try to go for that green.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All right, let's talk with.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Brian gathright and get his thoughts on his work with
Johnny Keefer. Although he didn't make the cut, he's playing
good golf and we'll see how he can perform later
in the year and what his plans may be that
conversation with Brian's coming up next, It's the Golf Show
on the ticket
Hi, everyone, It's Andy Everett. Enjoy this podcast version of
The Golf Show from sports Radio AM seven sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The Ticket.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Now from sports Radio AM seven sixty to the Ticket.
This is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf
Show brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's
Golf Academy, and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on
the first t Andy Everett.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, here we go on a Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's time to Todd Golf as the PGA Championship is
getting ready for its third round. They should have already
been underway, but we'll tell you why they're not here
in just a second.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm Andy Everett.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Our producer of the program today is Tay Suchik. Ty
is a really good player and good athlete as well.
We're going to talk to him at the end of
the show because this year, about a year or so ago,
he got fit for the first time and got some
new golf clubs. We're going to talk to you about
club fitting in a while.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's important. In the eight.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thirty segment today, Tim from Golf Week will join us
as we talked PGA and Roy struggling at the after
the Master's Hangover and a few other things there, and
in about fifteen minutes or so, Brian Gathwright will join us.
One of the top teachers in the country according to
Golf Digest, and one of the best in San Antonio.
Was a founder with me on this golf show some
(01:19):
almost twenty nine years ago when we started out at
Lock and Terra the Resa.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
We're going to have Brian on.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
He teaches a lot of young players in San Antonio,
Mack Meiser and Mitchell Meser. I believe he teaches both
of them. He also is the swing coach for Johnny Kiefer,
who won a corn Ferry Tour event not too long
ago and vaulted up from two hundred and thirteen in
the world to ninety three, and that's what got him
in the PGA Championship this year. And Johnny did not
(01:47):
make the cut, shot seven over for two rounds. But
we're going to talk to him about Johnny's future, which
seems to be bright.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
The PGA Championship was supposed to get underway this morning
about an hour ago, but it's lightning and raining and
in the Charlotte area the storms are supposed to be
out of the way by about ten o'clock Eastern time,
so we're about an hour away from the storms being gone.
That will allow the players to get back to the
driving range and rewarm up. And if you've got a
(02:15):
pairing sheet from what you saw last night that was published,
well you can throw that away. Instead of going everybody
going off the first tee, they're going to go off
both one in ten in groups of three, and they
are putting the pairings together as we speak, and maybe
before the show is over with, we'll have some of
the marquee players, so they have to kind of work
(02:36):
on the fly and get everybody in the last tea
time today will be around one o'clock San Antonio time,
and they'll finish a little laughter five point thirty this evening.
Jonathan Vegas is the leader, and Johnny has had some
good success on the PGA Tour over the years, but
he's never won a major. He is originally from Venezuela
that played his college golf at Texas and we'll see
(02:58):
if he can hold on. Got a couple of shots
lead in this event going forward, and Jonathan's hit the
ball in play a lot. He's gotten some breaks when
he's in it offline. He got a ricochet off of
a rake yesterday to go keep from going in the
bunker into a good spot on the green. So we'll
see if Jonathan Vegas can do that as well. See
(03:18):
who Kim is right behind him. They'll be in that
final grouping today. As soon as they get all the
pairings out, we'll share those with you. Scotty Scheffler was
able to win last week, shooting thirty one under par
at the Truest Championship. That was somewhat ridiculous. But Scotty
is in contention again, a few shots off the lead
and just continues to play good, solid golf, and I
(03:41):
would not be surprised if he's in that final group
come tomorrow. I would expect another sub seventy round from
him coming up today. Now we're gonna talk a little
bit about Roy McElroy here. There's a number of things
going on with Rory number one. He was struggling this week.
I think a lot of this still has to do
with the hangover from the Masters. He finally got that
(04:01):
mucky off his his back. He finally was able to decompress,
and he didn't play great, but he played okay. With
Shane Lowry at the event the Zurich in New Orleans,
the team event, but he is not hit the ball
where he's aiming this week, and one of the reasons
why is apparently Rory has had to switch drivers after
(04:22):
Tuesday on the driving range, and from time to time
players either ask or the competition committee asks if they
can or demands basically to test the player's drivers to
see if it is conforming. Now, let's explain what this
conforming thing means. Several years ago, the golf clubs were
(04:44):
deemed to in some cases be quote unquote too hot.
So when you see a slow motion video of the
ball hitting the club face and you probably have seen
this before on TV, there is a little bit of
flex in the face of that driver where it comes in,
it kind of bows in a little bit, and then
(05:04):
as the club is rebounding, it springs forward to propel
the ball to where its target is. And several years
ago the usgn RNA came up with a number, and
this is a scientific number, and I'm not really sure
how they came up with this, but basically, if it
springs at zero point eighty six or more, it is
(05:25):
not it's too hot. It's what they call the trampoline
effect or a spring like effect. So think of a
rubber band. You're holding it on your left hand, you're
stretching out with your right and you let it go.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It go a certain distance, but if that rubber band is.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Only pulled back an inch or two instead of five
or six, is not going to go as far. So
it's a spring like effect that is going to propel
that golf ball. And every manufacturer on the planet goes
to the nth degree that they possibly can to still
be conforming. Now, when the manufacturers bill drivers, even though
the all come from the same mold and mike, you
(06:01):
would have to have a microscope to tell the difference.
It's kind of like DNA. Every driver head is slightly different,
maybe by millisec millimeters and half half a millimeters and
all that depending on where the mass is in the club.
So they'll give Rory or any other player that's their
representative several heads and several shafts for him to go
(06:22):
try out, and he picks one that he likes the best. Well,
when they do this testing, they do it on what
they call the iron Byron machine, which they set it
one hundred and five miles an hour, and they say, Okay,
it doesn't spring anymore than whatever it's supposed to spring
at one hundred and five miles an hour, so it's conforming.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Go play with it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well, when you're a professional golfer like Roy McElroy, this
happened is Andrew Shoffley a few years ago, you're going
to probably hit that driver six hundred times during the week.
You're definitely going to hit it probably twelve to fifteen
to twelve to fourteen times on a regular golf course
in around, but you're also going to probably hit one
hundred golf balls a day with it in.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Your practice sessions.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And like anything that is made of metal or pretty
much any other material, as that golf club gets hit
so many times, it's going to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Get thinner and thinner and thinner.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And some players like Bryce and the Shambeau and really
big hitters have been known to cave in clubs to
where they're broken. Basically, well, that's going to make that
golf club a little bit thinner, and then when you
go and test it, it's going to be outside those
numbers that it was a few weeks ago. Now there's
a lot of people that are wondering, did Rory play
with this club at the Masters? My guess is he
(07:36):
probably did. He wasn't talking after his first two rounds
at the PGA in the media sessions. I don't know
if he just thought he did want to, or wasn't
requested or whatever. I'm sure that question will come up
at some point when he does his next interview.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And a lot of people are like, oh.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Is the Master's tainted because he used a driver that
may have been non conforming. No, it's not, because it
probably he was conforming at some point and it became
non conforming on Tuesday when they tested it this week.
When a golfer like Roy swings one hundred and twenty
one hundred and twenty five miles an hour, it really
doesn't matter how and you do that five hundred times
(08:14):
with one club, at some point that golf club is
going to go out of whack, and it's going to
happen to every player on the PGA Tour, unless it's
somebody that constantly is changing drivers. So Rory had to
play with the backup this week instead of the gamer,
and you could tell it was just off a little
bit as the ball was going left a lot, he
still has a chance. He's going to probably have to
(08:35):
shoot somewhere around sixty five sixty four today to put
himself back into contention. So remember that it's not going
to matter to you and I, because unless you are
a really skilled golfer, the chances of you hitting the
ball above one hundred and five miles an hour aren't
very good. I think the last time I was tested,
I was between ninety nine and one oh one. And
(08:57):
most people are probably play recreational or either there or
below that. And there's certainly some players that play recreational
that are big and strong and can generate a lot
of clubhead speed, and everybody's a little bit different. But
understand that while they were discussing this last night. Players
never have any intent to have a club that's not conforming,
(09:17):
but you hit it often enough and it may at
some point become just that. So we'll see what happens
today with Rory and see if he can rebound. I'm
guessing that the one golf tournament he wants more than
any other is to wait on his home country at
royal Port Rush later in the year in July, when
the Open Championship goes there all right. Hedeki Matziyama's major
(09:38):
cut streak was snapped. He's been struggling a little bit
since the beginning of the year, so he won't be
around for the weekend. He had made nineteen straight cuts
in the majors. Xander Shoffley extends his current overall cut streak,
which I think now is at sixty and that is
the longest street currently on the PGA Tour. And we
saw a siding from Max Homa this week. Max has
made a couple of swing changes. He's got a new caddy,
(10:00):
a new swing coach, and some of the things they've
been working on that has made him miss a lot
of cuts over the last year. Maybe starting to come
into play a little bit better as Max is in
contention at five under par and he has a chance
the eagle to par four yesterday, one of the driverable
par fours at Quail Hollow, and that put the ball
right out there about a foot from the hole and
(10:20):
he's able to make eagle. When we visit with Tim
Schmid here in a little bit, we're going to talk
about this. I think Quayle Hollow would be a fun
members golf course now understand they're playing it at seventy
four hundred yards with deep rough and really fast greens.
So if you knock those greens with slow them down
to maybe an inch or inch and a half and
instead of them being fourteen to fifteen, get them down
(10:40):
to eleven twelve, play from a reasonable distance around sixty
five hundred yards and get cut the rough the way
that golf course lays out. I think it would be
a lot of fun to play. I'm not sure what
the guest restrictions are, but I would certainly like to
play that golf course sometime.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I watch it every year when.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
The Wells Fargo Now Rush Championship is there, and it
looks like a great golf course. The last three holes
really really difficult, and you know they're going to have
that pin on Sunday on seventeen tucked way over the
left to dare people that try to go for that green.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All right, let's talk with.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Brian gathright and get his thoughts on his work with
Johnny Keefer. Although he didn't make the cut, he's playing
good golf and we'll see how he can perform later
in the year and what his plans may be that
conversation with Brian's coming up next, It's the Golf Show
on the ticket
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