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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to the Ticket seven sixty Golf Show. This
is Dakean Munjotzin for Andy Everett. Andy, we'll be back
next Saturday morning to chat with you about golf and
our number two ten seven three six nine seven sixty.
We're very happy to welcome back this fine gentleman who's
been a friend of the show for many years, one
of the top instructors in all of America. It's Brian Gathright. Brian,
good morning, welcome back. How are you sir?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm doing great, David, thanks for having me on. How
are you today?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm doing great. Thank you. Before we talk with Johnny
Key for what we talked about him, Uh, well, we
had him on a few minutes ago. What tip do
you have for us this week?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, the one thing I'm gonna pull a tip from
what one of the things that Johnny does better in
how to practice. If you watch most most of our
golfers this time of year, they go to the range
and they warm up and they're just you know, hitting
repetitive shot after shot and they just kind of drag
another ball over and hit another one. And the one
thing that Johnny's done so well and all to our
(01:00):
players Mac and Mitchell Eisner to work with and many
others that they all practice by picking targets, by going
fully through their preshot routine, by determining how far they're
going to hit the golf ball. One of the things
that you know, those guys have the luxury of having
a GC quad and they're able to get an exact
(01:23):
cary distance on every shot. But in the old days,
when like with Jimmy Walker, NOA. B. Gay, those guys, well,
we you know, we'd shot targets with a laser. We
got towels or pool noodles or headcovers or something out
there that you could get specific numbers on, and then
you hit those shots with the purpose. And I think
(01:44):
that's so important. And I stand here at River Crossing
this morning looking down the range, and you know, you
watch people over and over just hitting balls for exercise
versus really spending time, taking their time to hit it
and go through their process, go through their routine and
pick targets. Make sure that you're actually giving yourself the
(02:05):
best opportunity to play golf as opposed to just getting exercise.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Now you mentioned River Crossing, I take it that course
is in great shape. With all the rains we've had
recently as.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, we've been very fortunate that we're glad to have
it and certainly never turn it down this time of year.
And I'm not gonna say it because I know, but
the temperature has been good to us as well, and
hopefully hopefully we'll get by an another couple of weeks
without it getting horribly hot yet. But it's been great
and of course in good shape. And our superintendent Paul
(02:36):
Lane does a great job.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Brian Gath writers our guests, one of the top instructors
in all the US. Brian, I have to bring it
up during the conversation we had here with Johnny Key
for about a half hour ago. He paid you, I believe,
one of the highest compliments you could ever get, and
that was the fact that he went to see you first.
Then he kind of walked away a little bit, he
wasn't getting any better, and then he says, you know what,
maybe it's better that I go back to Brian, I
(02:58):
thought that was such a very very nice compliment.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, we've often laughed about it. He was a little
reluctant to I'm kind of what I am. I'm an
acquired taste, I think, David, I, you know, as a coach,
you kind of just lay it out there. And Johnny
was playing really good golf, but I saw some things
that I thought, you know, long term wise, would make
him an elite player. And I don't know that at
(03:23):
his young age, I might have jumped the gun a
little bit and done that. But then when he did
circle back a couple of years later, he's just spectacular.
And I know, you having talked to him, you know
what an incredible young man he is. He's smart, he's dedicated,
(03:44):
he works harder than anybody you can imagine, and on
top of that, by the way, he's really talented. So
it's a great combination. We have a lot of fun
working and he works hard and keeps me young, and
I'm excited to see how he progresses. And you know,
next year is going to be on the PGA Tour.
And to have this, you know, second major in less
(04:05):
than you know, less than twelve months as a golf professional,
unders belt and already have made a cut in his
first US Open at quite possibly the most difficult venue
ever for US Open at Oakmont. I couldn't be more
proud of him. Then, I'm just so blessed to have
the opportunity to work with his immense talent and really
(04:26):
happy that, you know, he's given me that opportunity, and
we're looking forward to the future, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Brian Gathwaite is our guest. Brian, through all the years
that you've been basically teaching golf, have you ever had
an instance where you saw somebody that you were trying
to teach the better things about golf, the finder things
about golf, and you thought, maybe this person doesn't have
what it takes, and maybe that person ended up walking
away or you know. Again, the thing that I've always
said is don't give up, don't ever give up. But
(04:52):
you can only teach so many things to so many people.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, the hardest part I would say is I don't
really I don't ever get up on anyone. The hardest
thing to understand is, and I'm you know, for years,
to become, you know, a full exempt member of the
PGA Tour, you had to be one of the best
one hundred and twenty five players in the world. Well,
(05:15):
the tours change that next year and you've got to
be one of the best hundred players in the world.
And the realism of this is there's so many young, younger,
high school, college age players that aspire to be, you know,
a PGA Tour member, but you have to also understand
it's not for everybody. I'm I'm incredibly happy and proud
(05:35):
to say that Johnny Keeper is going to be my
seventh player that I've worked with through the years to
gain their PGA Tour card, And for that, I'm extremely
humbled and proud of, you know, proud of those guys,
know the work they put in it. But it's a
process and I've been so blessed. I think back to
my time with Harvey Phoenick, and Harvey said he felt like,
you know, kind of because of the prior players he's taught,
(05:58):
he got to see a whole lot more good players
that have the opportunity. And I think that's been a
great thing with me. I know that, you know, Johnny
came back to me most likely because he saw the
success that some other players were having and that kind
of leads it to there. And now I've got a
whole bunch of really good young players that you know,
(06:18):
they're following Johnny, following mac Fall and Mitchell and seeing
those guys and you just kind of build that where
I maybe get the opportunity to see a few more
but of those really gifted players. But the one thing
I'll tell you that they all have in common, they
all they all work so much harder than everybody else too.
So it takes a great talent, but it also takes
(06:39):
a passion and a willingness to go above and beyond
anything that anyone can imagine to be as a lead,
as a top you know, PGA Tour player.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Brian Gatthrother is our guest. Brian, we got a couple
of minutes left. I mentioned some of the top names
on the PGH or some of the active players that
have not won a major, and they include Victor Hovland,
Patrick Cantley of course, Tommy Fleetwood, Matt Coocher, just to
name a few. And last week I was watching Tommy
Fleetwood in the final round and he took the lead
going into the final round. It was this one hundred
(07:10):
and fifty ninth PGA to or event and he still
has not won. When you see something like that would
go through your.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Head, well, you have a deep sense of sorrow for him. Honestly,
it's gut wrenching to watch him bogey from where he
was on the eighteenth hold, not only to you know,
to not win, but to lose. And it's one of
those situations where when that occurs, you just don't want
to be in. You know, you don't want a player
(07:38):
as good as Tommy because the one thing that I
do know about him, he's one of the nicest, most
well liked guys out there. Guys root for him because
he's such a genuinely good person, and you just it's
gut wrenching. You know, we've had players lose. I mean,
Johnny got beaten a playoff for a second win not
too long ago. He'd made one on the corn Frey Tour.
(08:01):
He made one from off the green to get into
the playoff, and then the person that he tied to
get into the playoff made it from the exact same
spot in the playoff against him, and you know, it
just happens. Golf's very brutal. You win a minimal amount
of times in your career, and you have to be resilient.
You have to know that in Tommy Fleetwood's too good
(08:23):
a player that win's gonna come. It's just it's not
an f it's win, but but you do know that
they're fighting it and struggling, and you have a lot
of empathy for him in that regard.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Brian, thank you so much for taking time when hopefully
we'll see you sometime this year.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, I look forward to it. David, thanks for having
Johnny on this morning, and I certainly always appreciate the
opportunity to be on with you. Having a great week.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Thank you, sir, you're too. Coming up next Saturday will
be Andy Everett returning here to the Tickets seven sixty
Golf Show. I'm David Mounios. Thank you so much. Having
a happy Fourth of July week. Ticket Sports time eight
fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You've been listening to the Golf Show on Sports Radio
AM seven sixty. The Ticket brought to you by MK
Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's Golf Academy, and by Alamo City
Golf Trail. We'll tee it up again next Saturday morning
at eight with another edition of the Golf Show exclusively
on Sports Radio AM seven sixty. The Ticket.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You've been listening to the podcast version of the Golf
Show on Sports Radio AM seven sixty.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
The Tickets join us again next time for another edition
of the Golf Show,
Welcome back to the Ticket seven sixty Golf Show. This
is Dakean Munjotzin for Andy Everett. Andy, we'll be back
next Saturday morning to chat with you about golf and
our number two ten seven three six nine seven sixty.
We're very happy to welcome back this fine gentleman who's
been a friend of the show for many years, one
of the top instructors in all of America. It's Brian Gathright. Brian,
good morning, welcome back. How are you sir?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm doing great, David, thanks for having me on. How
are you today?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm doing great. Thank you. Before we talk with Johnny
Key for what we talked about him, Uh, well, we
had him on a few minutes ago. What tip do
you have for us this week?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, the one thing I'm gonna pull a tip from
what one of the things that Johnny does better in
how to practice. If you watch most most of our
golfers this time of year, they go to the range
and they warm up and they're just you know, hitting
repetitive shot after shot and they just kind of drag
another ball over and hit another one. And the one
thing that Johnny's done so well and all to our
(01:00):
players Mac and Mitchell Eisner to work with and many
others that they all practice by picking targets, by going
fully through their preshot routine, by determining how far they're
going to hit the golf ball. One of the things
that you know, those guys have the luxury of having
a GC quad and they're able to get an exact
(01:23):
cary distance on every shot. But in the old days,
when like with Jimmy Walker, NOA. B. Gay, those guys, well,
we you know, we'd shot targets with a laser. We
got towels or pool noodles or headcovers or something out
there that you could get specific numbers on, and then
you hit those shots with the purpose. And I think
(01:44):
that's so important. And I stand here at River Crossing
this morning looking down the range, and you know, you
watch people over and over just hitting balls for exercise
versus really spending time, taking their time to hit it
and go through their process, go through their routine and
pick targets. Make sure that you're actually giving yourself the
(02:05):
best opportunity to play golf as opposed to just getting exercise.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Now you mentioned River Crossing, I take it that course
is in great shape. With all the rains we've had
recently as.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, we've been very fortunate that we're glad to have
it and certainly never turn it down this time of year.
And I'm not gonna say it because I know, but
the temperature has been good to us as well, and
hopefully hopefully we'll get by an another couple of weeks
without it getting horribly hot yet. But it's been great
and of course in good shape. And our superintendent Paul
(02:36):
Lane does a great job.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Brian Gath writers our guests, one of the top instructors
in all the US. Brian, I have to bring it
up during the conversation we had here with Johnny Key
for about a half hour ago. He paid you, I believe,
one of the highest compliments you could ever get, and
that was the fact that he went to see you first.
Then he kind of walked away a little bit, he
wasn't getting any better, and then he says, you know what,
maybe it's better that I go back to Brian, I
(02:58):
thought that was such a very very nice compliment.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, we've often laughed about it. He was a little
reluctant to I'm kind of what I am. I'm an
acquired taste, I think, David, I, you know, as a coach,
you kind of just lay it out there. And Johnny
was playing really good golf, but I saw some things
that I thought, you know, long term wise, would make
him an elite player. And I don't know that at
(03:23):
his young age, I might have jumped the gun a
little bit and done that. But then when he did
circle back a couple of years later, he's just spectacular.
And I know, you having talked to him, you know
what an incredible young man he is. He's smart, he's dedicated,
(03:44):
he works harder than anybody you can imagine, and on
top of that, by the way, he's really talented. So
it's a great combination. We have a lot of fun
working and he works hard and keeps me young, and
I'm excited to see how he progresses. And you know,
next year is going to be on the PGA Tour.
And to have this, you know, second major in less
(04:05):
than you know, less than twelve months as a golf professional,
unders belt and already have made a cut in his
first US Open at quite possibly the most difficult venue
ever for US Open at Oakmont. I couldn't be more
proud of him. Then, I'm just so blessed to have
the opportunity to work with his immense talent and really
(04:26):
happy that, you know, he's given me that opportunity, and
we're looking forward to the future, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Brian Gathwaite is our guest. Brian, through all the years
that you've been basically teaching golf, have you ever had
an instance where you saw somebody that you were trying
to teach the better things about golf, the finder things
about golf, and you thought, maybe this person doesn't have
what it takes, and maybe that person ended up walking
away or you know. Again, the thing that I've always
said is don't give up, don't ever give up. But
(04:52):
you can only teach so many things to so many people.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, the hardest part I would say is I don't
really I don't ever get up on anyone. The hardest
thing to understand is, and I'm you know, for years,
to become, you know, a full exempt member of the
PGA Tour, you had to be one of the best
one hundred and twenty five players in the world. Well,
(05:15):
the tours change that next year and you've got to
be one of the best hundred players in the world.
And the realism of this is there's so many young, younger,
high school, college age players that aspire to be, you know,
a PGA Tour member, but you have to also understand
it's not for everybody. I'm I'm incredibly happy and proud
(05:35):
to say that Johnny Keeper is going to be my
seventh player that I've worked with through the years to
gain their PGA Tour card, And for that, I'm extremely
humbled and proud of, you know, proud of those guys,
know the work they put in it. But it's a
process and I've been so blessed. I think back to
my time with Harvey Phoenick, and Harvey said he felt like,
you know, kind of because of the prior players he's taught,
(05:58):
he got to see a whole lot more good players
that have the opportunity. And I think that's been a
great thing with me. I know that, you know, Johnny
came back to me most likely because he saw the
success that some other players were having and that kind
of leads it to there. And now I've got a
whole bunch of really good young players that you know,
(06:18):
they're following Johnny, following mac Fall and Mitchell and seeing
those guys and you just kind of build that where
I maybe get the opportunity to see a few more
but of those really gifted players. But the one thing
I'll tell you that they all have in common, they
all they all work so much harder than everybody else too.
So it takes a great talent, but it also takes
(06:39):
a passion and a willingness to go above and beyond
anything that anyone can imagine to be as a lead,
as a top you know, PGA Tour player.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Brian Gatthrother is our guest. Brian, we got a couple
of minutes left. I mentioned some of the top names
on the PGH or some of the active players that
have not won a major, and they include Victor Hovland,
Patrick Cantley of course, Tommy Fleetwood, Matt Coocher, just to
name a few. And last week I was watching Tommy
Fleetwood in the final round and he took the lead
going into the final round. It was this one hundred
(07:10):
and fifty ninth PGA to or event and he still
has not won. When you see something like that would
go through your.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Head, well, you have a deep sense of sorrow for him. Honestly,
it's gut wrenching to watch him bogey from where he
was on the eighteenth hold, not only to you know,
to not win, but to lose. And it's one of
those situations where when that occurs, you just don't want
to be in. You know, you don't want a player
(07:38):
as good as Tommy because the one thing that I
do know about him, he's one of the nicest, most
well liked guys out there. Guys root for him because
he's such a genuinely good person, and you just it's
gut wrenching. You know, we've had players lose. I mean,
Johnny got beaten a playoff for a second win not
too long ago. He'd made one on the corn Frey Tour.
(08:01):
He made one from off the green to get into
the playoff, and then the person that he tied to
get into the playoff made it from the exact same
spot in the playoff against him, and you know, it
just happens. Golf's very brutal. You win a minimal amount
of times in your career, and you have to be resilient.
You have to know that in Tommy Fleetwood's too good
(08:23):
a player that win's gonna come. It's just it's not
an f it's win, but but you do know that
they're fighting it and struggling, and you have a lot
of empathy for him in that regard.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Brian, thank you so much for taking time when hopefully
we'll see you sometime this year.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, I look forward to it. David, thanks for having
Johnny on this morning, and I certainly always appreciate the
opportunity to be on with you. Having a great week.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Thank you, sir, you're too. Coming up next Saturday will
be Andy Everett returning here to the Tickets seven sixty
Golf Show. I'm David Mounios. Thank you so much. Having
a happy Fourth of July week. Ticket Sports time eight
fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You've been listening to the Golf Show on Sports Radio
AM seven sixty. The Ticket brought to you by MK
Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's Golf Academy, and by Alamo City
Golf Trail. We'll tee it up again next Saturday morning
at eight with another edition of the Golf Show exclusively
on Sports Radio AM seven sixty. The Ticket.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You've been listening to the podcast version of the Golf
Show on Sports Radio AM seven sixty.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
The Tickets join us again next time for another edition
of the Golf Show,
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