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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the Golf show on the ticket. They're playing the
Scottis chopin this week and they've got It's kind of
interesting because it stays light over there now till about
ten thirty. The last group's going to tee off today
at three forty five Scotland time, which is eight for
ninety five here. And that's why you're not watching any
golf right now. Golf Channel is going to take over
(00:23):
with its coverage at nine and I think Serious is
the same and TV. The CBS stuff you see today
will likely be tape delayed, which I don't like. I
wish CBS would just say, okay, the British Open next
week is going to be on live. We're going to
make this one on live. But you're going to see
a lot of tape delayed stuff today and tomorrow. We'll
already know what happens by the time CBS replace some
(00:43):
of its stuff. But here's the quick This golf tournament
is held in the area of North Berwick, which is
where Meerfield is and Mierfield is the most famous of
the golf courses in that area in Scotland because of
its past Open championship opportunities. Right down there's fifty golf courses. Well,
(01:03):
you could go drive ten miles and come up with
fifty golf courses all around that area. And North Barrick
is a famous golf club but doesn't have the infrastructure
to ever host a big tournament like that, and several
others up and down the coastline in Inland as well.
It's kind of interesting to me. The Renaissance was built
by Tom Doak and he finished the project in two
(01:25):
thousand and seven and it's a very exclusive private golf
club that you can play once if you want to.
It's I'm not sure what the green fees are now,
but if you want to play it a second time
you have to join, and it's quite expensive to join.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
But it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Interesting to me that a lot of people go over
there and play and they list among their favorites the
newer Scotland golf courses like King's Barnes and Trump Aberdeen
and now dun Barney's a new golf course, and the
renaissances been around Castle Stuart's up in the north and
I wish people would understand, yeah, those are beautiful golf courses,
(01:59):
most built by American designers. That have understood how to
use that soil to create the conditions that you can.
But I still think that the best golf over there
are the golf courses that are hundreds of years old.
When you can walk up and down a fairway that
somebody actually played golf there in fifteen hundred. To me's
(02:19):
that's the nostalgia that makes that special. And it leaks
golf isn't for everyone. You got to learn to play
the ball on the ground, you got to learn to
deal with wind, and you're going to have to walk.
And most of us don't walk any anymore. We're riding
carts or buggies as they call them. But this is
not a terrible golf course. But I'm watching on TV
and I'm like, this doesn't It doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's it looks more American style.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, it looks like whistling straits are abandon dunes.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Right. I watched it on Thursday morning, in a little
bit on Friday yesterday early I turned it on and
it was on early, so it's like it didn't look
like a Scottish, you know, open type golf course. It's
it's you still hit and you saw dirt fly in
(03:07):
the air and stuff instead of like, you know, nice
pretty divot flight through here. But it's not it's not
it doesn't look if the ball's not down you don't
hit it down there, and they can hit the air
in the air it carries. Yeah, there's there's a lot
of more American style type golf. Yeah, I'm sure for
(03:27):
Scottish Open that was different.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The one souvenir that I usually get is like the
little ballmarks that have the smaller insert ballmarks. They're about
the size of a silver dollar or whatever. And and
to be able to look at one and say Mirfield
seventeen forty four and four rows fifteen ninety one or
whatever the city or this or the golf course is,
and and that to me is you know, you're walking
(03:50):
in the footsteps of history. When when you when you
do that, uh and again you have to walk. You're
going to have some difficult weather from time to time.
But it's a special place and they will not have
the rene they have. The Renaissance will host this tournament
one more year next year and then they have to
decide whether they want to go back or not or
(04:11):
move it around.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And so that's up for debate.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Moving it around is something that a lot of people
would like so that they can go back to Mierfield.
They don't want to play back to back weeks in
that city. It's basically I would say North Berwick and Gullen,
which back up to one another, is about the size
of Bandera, maybe Fredericksburg if even that big, and so
to have that many people in that much of an
area for that length of time taking up all their
(04:34):
golf courses, they want to matter there. They got golf
to play. They have a limited window, all right. Bubba
Watson was on the Pat mcavee show the other day
and Pat was asking about the official World Golf Ranking points,
and again Lives has applied for that, which I doubt
they're going to get because it's the RNA, USGA and
PGA tour that determine who's who's eligible and what tournaments
(04:57):
are eligible for World Ranking points.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Whether they get him or not, I really don't care.
To me.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There's seven golfers on live that matter and the rest don't.
But he brought up the aspect of team golf, and
apparently Bryson talks about this, Phil talks about this. I
don't get the idea of team golf in professional golf.
And if I'm in the clubhouse with the lead and
(05:24):
you're my teammate and you birdy the last hole in,
you and I have to go play a playoff for
the individual, but by you making a putt, we win
the team competition, but I lose the individual competition. I'm like,
I hope you miss And I know that may not
be sportsman like, but I can guarantee you. If Bubba's
(05:45):
in the clubhouse and his teammate's got a five foot
and to for, it's a playoff which helps the team
but hurts him, he's hoping.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He misses too. I don't know the team thing. I
think it was just for I'm not sure. I'm not
sure whether it's for what we live is doing with
that aspect of it. Golf's not a team sport. You
can't call time out and go Andy tired of the
two doubles in a row, Joe get in for Paul.
(06:13):
He's gonna sit for a minute and think about.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
What's going on. All right, You don't there's no team.
Ye three times you're out.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
There's no team in golf. It's never been the high school,
the college all that kind of stuff. It's not It's
nice you have a group of guys or girls together
and they go out and you take four to the
top five scores, but you know that's not a team sport.
A team sport to me is like, you know, you're
you're backing up the next guy or next woman. You
(06:41):
know it's other. Hey, you're struggling, and I'm going to
take you out, all right, you can't do this and
you struggle, you keep up, keep moving.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
The pitcher throws two home run balls, We're going to
the bullpen, quarterback throw three interceptions. We're going to take
you out for the game or for a play.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And he understands it because the team sport, right, But
I don't. I don't. I don't know. I mean it
was just for them to make more money. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, And well it's it's also to have the gear
with all the team uniforms and everybody wears the same thing,
which you do when you're playing high school or college golf.
And I get that aspect because you do take four
of the top five, but all those guys in college
golf are using it, I think to some degree as
a stepping Stone to get to the pros. And now
they're getting PGA Tour university to where if you finish
(07:29):
in the top whatever it is, you get exemptions into
tournaments next year.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, so PGAU is like that was the way to
keep these guys in school longer. But now I think
that's going to change because of Nil. So that the
you're number one. If you're number one, you go straight
to the tour and then from there one through I
believe ten go have full exemption in the corn Fairy
(07:53):
and so on. But the I don't think that college kid, now, boy,
he's there to get to the tour right out there
and go I'm gonna believe my Texas Tech flag. You
know theyrom Oklahoma flag. Yeah, you know Nil's killer is
knocking down in golf too. I mean there's transfer portholes,
(08:17):
like you believe. Yeah, you know UT is over here
paying a ton of money for you to come over
here and play for me at UT.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, in the mid majors, the mid major schools are
recruiting in Europe because you can't pay European players in
I own money, because they're here on student visas and
they can't get in I own money. Or revenue share money.
So uh UTSA A uh, And I don't know what
if they're actually if UTSA is actually doing this, but
I know a lot of mid major schools in that
(08:46):
American Conference Conference USA. They're going to go recruit in
Germany and in England and say, hey, want to come
to the United States and get a degree. Oh, by
the way, we want you to play golf, and we
can't pay you yea.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'm pretty sure they don't care about the degree over there.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But but it's an opportunity for them to play American
golf if they ever desired to play American Tours play here.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's changing as we see as we speak, a lot
of the Euros don't want to come over here because
it's so expensive. I have to go through the corn ferry.
I make three hundred thousand for first place. I'm spending
an unload amount of money, if you like. As a
kid that from South Africa, where's all of our South
(09:27):
African kids? When I was talking to a past player
from Australia who's now over back over there teaching golf,
he goes, Australians aren't coming back over here. It's too
expensive on them to go from corn Ferry to the tour.
It used to be you know, it goes to the
PGA Tour qualifying schooling. Hey, I had the top fifty
(09:50):
get their card. Now you have to go through the
grind of the corn Ferry Tour and there's a good
chance to go bro.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And you're not saying in a luxurious hotel and you're
not eating the free food every time you turn around
like you get on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
The perks are not the same.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And now you have the Australian Tour and the Asian
Tour and it's closer to home.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And the Asian Tours nine hundred and fifty thousand for first.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, where you going and it's.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
In Australia to South Africa or Australia someplace in the
southern Hemisphere.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Doesn't take long to go there.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah our flight Yeah not fourteen or nineteen or whatever
it is to go back and go career. Yeah, so yeah,
it's it's a it's an opportunity and if you're good enough,
you'll eventually get to the PGA Tour if that's where
you want to be. And a lot you know, a
lot of people don't understand this too. There's a lot
of players that just love playing in Europe. That's their
home and they're just gonna they can make a decent
(10:45):
living there, and will you watch them on Sunday, Saturday
and Sunday morning on Golf Channel. You never heard of them,
but they're really good players.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
They're very good players. There's a lot of great players
across the world that we don't see and might not
ever see because they enjoy stick over there, don't want
to travel that heavy.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
When I played at Royal Aberdeen and the last seven
holes at Royal Aberdeen were dead into a twenty mile
an hour wind, and that's the hardest stretch of golf
I've ever played. Those seven holes have overcome Carnoustie for
me as far as hardest golf I've ever played, because
there was four hundred yard par fours. Because of the
temperature and the wind that I couldn't get two and two.
(11:23):
If it was downwind, I could almost drive the green.
If it was into the wind, it was driver in
four hybrid or three hot three wood and trying to
bun it through the wind. And the caddy I had
was a young lady that went to the school at
Royal Aberdeen at Aberdeen University and she was a part
of I think they call it club golf over there.
They're not sanctioned to the schools, but they have a
team and they play competitions against others around the country.
(11:47):
And she asked me what my handicap was, and I said, well,
according to Jen, it's like three point five. But that's
playing municipal golf courses in San Antonio, not Aberdeen. I
wouldn't be hard pressed to have a ten on that
golf course. And I asked her what hers was and
she said it was a two. And I'm like, you
shoot a two here, you can play pretty much anywhere
(12:08):
in the world.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, you see. That just tells you there's a lot
of great players everywhere nowadays.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
All right, We've got some tips to get to and
a few other things coming up.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's the Golf Show on the ticket
It's the Golf show on the ticket. They're playing the
Scottis chopin this week and they've got It's kind of
interesting because it stays light over there now till about
ten thirty. The last group's going to tee off today
at three forty five Scotland time, which is eight for
ninety five here. And that's why you're not watching any
golf right now. Golf Channel is going to take over
(00:23):
with its coverage at nine and I think Serious is
the same and TV. The CBS stuff you see today
will likely be tape delayed, which I don't like. I
wish CBS would just say, okay, the British Open next
week is going to be on live. We're going to
make this one on live. But you're going to see
a lot of tape delayed stuff today and tomorrow. We'll
already know what happens by the time CBS replace some
(00:43):
of its stuff. But here's the quick This golf tournament
is held in the area of North Berwick, which is
where Meerfield is and Mierfield is the most famous of
the golf courses in that area in Scotland because of
its past Open championship opportunities. Right down there's fifty golf courses. Well,
(01:03):
you could go drive ten miles and come up with
fifty golf courses all around that area. And North Barrick
is a famous golf club but doesn't have the infrastructure
to ever host a big tournament like that, and several
others up and down the coastline in Inland as well.
It's kind of interesting to me. The Renaissance was built
by Tom Doak and he finished the project in two
(01:25):
thousand and seven and it's a very exclusive private golf
club that you can play once if you want to.
It's I'm not sure what the green fees are now,
but if you want to play it a second time
you have to join, and it's quite expensive to join.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
But it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Interesting to me that a lot of people go over
there and play and they list among their favorites the
newer Scotland golf courses like King's Barnes and Trump Aberdeen
and now dun Barney's a new golf course, and the
renaissances been around Castle Stuart's up in the north and
I wish people would understand, yeah, those are beautiful golf courses,
(01:59):
most built by American designers. That have understood how to
use that soil to create the conditions that you can.
But I still think that the best golf over there
are the golf courses that are hundreds of years old.
When you can walk up and down a fairway that
somebody actually played golf there in fifteen hundred. To me's
(02:19):
that's the nostalgia that makes that special. And it leaks
golf isn't for everyone. You got to learn to play
the ball on the ground, you got to learn to
deal with wind, and you're going to have to walk.
And most of us don't walk any anymore. We're riding
carts or buggies as they call them. But this is
not a terrible golf course. But I'm watching on TV
and I'm like, this doesn't It doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's it looks more American style.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, it looks like whistling straits are abandon dunes.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Right. I watched it on Thursday morning, in a little
bit on Friday yesterday early I turned it on and
it was on early, so it's like it didn't look
like a Scottish, you know, open type golf course. It's
it's you still hit and you saw dirt fly in
(03:07):
the air and stuff instead of like, you know, nice
pretty divot flight through here. But it's not it's not
it doesn't look if the ball's not down you don't
hit it down there, and they can hit the air
in the air it carries. Yeah, there's there's a lot
of more American style type golf. Yeah, I'm sure for
(03:27):
Scottish Open that was different.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The one souvenir that I usually get is like the
little ballmarks that have the smaller insert ballmarks. They're about
the size of a silver dollar or whatever. And and
to be able to look at one and say Mirfield
seventeen forty four and four rows fifteen ninety one or
whatever the city or this or the golf course is,
and and that to me is you know, you're walking
(03:50):
in the footsteps of history. When when you when you
do that, uh and again you have to walk. You're
going to have some difficult weather from time to time.
But it's a special place and they will not have
the rene they have. The Renaissance will host this tournament
one more year next year and then they have to
decide whether they want to go back or not or
(04:11):
move it around.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And so that's up for debate.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Moving it around is something that a lot of people
would like so that they can go back to Mierfield.
They don't want to play back to back weeks in
that city. It's basically I would say North Berwick and Gullen,
which back up to one another, is about the size
of Bandera, maybe Fredericksburg if even that big, and so
to have that many people in that much of an
area for that length of time taking up all their
(04:34):
golf courses, they want to matter there. They got golf
to play. They have a limited window, all right. Bubba
Watson was on the Pat mcavee show the other day
and Pat was asking about the official World Golf Ranking points,
and again Lives has applied for that, which I doubt
they're going to get because it's the RNA, USGA and
PGA tour that determine who's who's eligible and what tournaments
(04:57):
are eligible for World Ranking points.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Whether they get him or not, I really don't care.
To me.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There's seven golfers on live that matter and the rest don't.
But he brought up the aspect of team golf, and
apparently Bryson talks about this, Phil talks about this. I
don't get the idea of team golf in professional golf.
And if I'm in the clubhouse with the lead and
(05:24):
you're my teammate and you birdy the last hole in,
you and I have to go play a playoff for
the individual, but by you making a putt, we win
the team competition, but I lose the individual competition. I'm like,
I hope you miss And I know that may not
be sportsman like, but I can guarantee you. If Bubba's
(05:45):
in the clubhouse and his teammate's got a five foot
and to for, it's a playoff which helps the team
but hurts him, he's hoping.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He misses too. I don't know the team thing. I
think it was just for I'm not sure. I'm not
sure whether it's for what we live is doing with
that aspect of it. Golf's not a team sport. You
can't call time out and go Andy tired of the
two doubles in a row, Joe get in for Paul.
(06:13):
He's gonna sit for a minute and think about.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
What's going on. All right, You don't there's no team.
Ye three times you're out.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
There's no team in golf. It's never been the high school,
the college all that kind of stuff. It's not It's
nice you have a group of guys or girls together
and they go out and you take four to the
top five scores, but you know that's not a team sport.
A team sport to me is like, you know, you're
you're backing up the next guy or next woman. You
(06:41):
know it's other. Hey, you're struggling, and I'm going to
take you out, all right, you can't do this and
you struggle, you keep up, keep moving.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
The pitcher throws two home run balls, We're going to
the bullpen, quarterback throw three interceptions. We're going to take
you out for the game or for a play.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And he understands it because the team sport, right, But
I don't. I don't. I don't know. I mean it
was just for them to make more money. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, And well it's it's also to have the gear
with all the team uniforms and everybody wears the same thing,
which you do when you're playing high school or college golf.
And I get that aspect because you do take four
of the top five, but all those guys in college
golf are using it, I think to some degree as
a stepping Stone to get to the pros. And now
they're getting PGA Tour university to where if you finish
(07:29):
in the top whatever it is, you get exemptions into
tournaments next year.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, so PGAU is like that was the way to
keep these guys in school longer. But now I think
that's going to change because of Nil. So that the
you're number one. If you're number one, you go straight
to the tour and then from there one through I
believe ten go have full exemption in the corn Fairy
(07:53):
and so on. But the I don't think that college kid, now, boy,
he's there to get to the tour right out there
and go I'm gonna believe my Texas Tech flag. You
know theyrom Oklahoma flag. Yeah, you know Nil's killer is
knocking down in golf too. I mean there's transfer portholes,
(08:17):
like you believe. Yeah, you know UT is over here
paying a ton of money for you to come over
here and play for me at UT.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, in the mid majors, the mid major schools are
recruiting in Europe because you can't pay European players in
I own money, because they're here on student visas and
they can't get in I own money. Or revenue share money.
So uh UTSA A uh, And I don't know what
if they're actually if UTSA is actually doing this, but
I know a lot of mid major schools in that
(08:46):
American Conference Conference USA. They're going to go recruit in
Germany and in England and say, hey, want to come
to the United States and get a degree. Oh, by
the way, we want you to play golf, and we
can't pay you yea.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'm pretty sure they don't care about the degree over there.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But but it's an opportunity for them to play American
golf if they ever desired to play American Tours play here.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's changing as we see as we speak, a lot
of the Euros don't want to come over here because
it's so expensive. I have to go through the corn ferry.
I make three hundred thousand for first place. I'm spending
an unload amount of money, if you like. As a
kid that from South Africa, where's all of our South
(09:27):
African kids? When I was talking to a past player
from Australia who's now over back over there teaching golf,
he goes, Australians aren't coming back over here. It's too
expensive on them to go from corn Ferry to the tour.
It used to be you know, it goes to the
PGA Tour qualifying schooling. Hey, I had the top fifty
(09:50):
get their card. Now you have to go through the
grind of the corn Ferry Tour and there's a good
chance to go bro.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And you're not saying in a luxurious hotel and you're
not eating the free food every time you turn around
like you get on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
The perks are not the same.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And now you have the Australian Tour and the Asian
Tour and it's closer to home.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And the Asian Tours nine hundred and fifty thousand for first.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, where you going and it's.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
In Australia to South Africa or Australia someplace in the
southern Hemisphere.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Doesn't take long to go there.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah our flight Yeah not fourteen or nineteen or whatever
it is to go back and go career. Yeah, so yeah,
it's it's a it's an opportunity and if you're good enough,
you'll eventually get to the PGA Tour if that's where
you want to be. And a lot you know, a
lot of people don't understand this too. There's a lot
of players that just love playing in Europe. That's their
home and they're just gonna they can make a decent
(10:45):
living there, and will you watch them on Sunday, Saturday
and Sunday morning on Golf Channel. You never heard of them,
but they're really good players.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
They're very good players. There's a lot of great players
across the world that we don't see and might not
ever see because they enjoy stick over there, don't want
to travel that heavy.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
When I played at Royal Aberdeen and the last seven
holes at Royal Aberdeen were dead into a twenty mile
an hour wind, and that's the hardest stretch of golf
I've ever played. Those seven holes have overcome Carnoustie for
me as far as hardest golf I've ever played, because
there was four hundred yard par fours. Because of the
temperature and the wind that I couldn't get two and two.
(11:23):
If it was downwind, I could almost drive the green.
If it was into the wind, it was driver in
four hybrid or three hot three wood and trying to
bun it through the wind. And the caddy I had
was a young lady that went to the school at
Royal Aberdeen at Aberdeen University and she was a part
of I think they call it club golf over there.
They're not sanctioned to the schools, but they have a
team and they play competitions against others around the country.
(11:47):
And she asked me what my handicap was, and I said, well,
according to Jen, it's like three point five. But that's
playing municipal golf courses in San Antonio, not Aberdeen. I
wouldn't be hard pressed to have a ten on that
golf course. And I asked her what hers was and
she said it was a two. And I'm like, you
shoot a two here, you can play pretty much anywhere
(12:08):
in the world.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, you see. That just tells you there's a lot
of great players everywhere nowadays.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
All right, We've got some tips to get to and
a few other things coming up.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's the Golf Show on the ticket
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