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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's the golf show on the tickets.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Got some tips for you when you're watching golf in
the next two weeks, you're going to likely see some
rather difficult places to play from. You probably saw it
a little bit at the US Open at Oakmont when
the when you can barely see the top of the
golf ball, and even if you can see the golf
ball a little bit, you have if you're not used
to playing a golf course that has actual rough or
(00:30):
the uh and the wispy fescue grass that's prominent in
Scotland and Ireland, it's really hard to get your ball
back into play and you're probably just trying to get
it someplace safe. A lot of times the pros even
bite off more than they can actually chew. Any tips
for extricating yourself from the long rough when you know,
(00:51):
no matter how hard you hang onto that golf club,
the ball is probably going to come out left.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
People are not going to take out a wedge and
pitch it out, and a lot of people anymore. That said,
the reason is like I'm here, I paid my money,
I'm going to take a whack and see what happens, all.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Right, it's crooked numbers coming. Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
If you have a nine wood, if you have an
eleven wood, if you carry like a five or six
hybrid right and if you want to take a smack
out of that stuff, that that might give you a
shot like a nine wood. It definitely could. When we
were in South Africa, the rough was so brutal. No
(01:42):
matter what we did, the ball went straight left and
we got those We got these things. I forgot what
it was called, just across my mind, but it was
like it was like a seven iron, but it was
a wood and that was the only thing that we
could get out with.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think one of the things is good to see
because when I was at both Carnoustie and at Mirfield,
and I played Carnoostie in twenty three and twenty five
and Mirfield in sixteen and twenty five. When I played
Mirfield in twenty sixteen, the rough was high the heather
and there were several holes where it was waist high.
(02:23):
And it wasn't that way they mowed all that stuff down.
It was you could find your golf ball and it
would still be a tough lie, but you can get
a wedge on it. And get it back into play.
If he hit it over there, you could even get
like a seven wood on it or a hybrid on
it if you did make sure you hit ball first.
And I was asking the caddy. I said, this golf
by both golf courses. I was, this is not as
(02:45):
difficult as it used to be. And he said the
members just got sick and tired of losing golf balls.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, I mean, the.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Every golf club in the world is going to age
at some point. And they got me, if you hit
it over there, you're probably not going to find it
and it's going to take another thirty minutes to play
the hole. And it said this, if we get the Open,
we'll grow the rough backup. If we don't, we'll just
keep it this way.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Golf balls are expensive, right, And the second of all
too is injury. All right, Yes, it would. You have
to have to be able to get out of the rough.
Your hands have to be super strong, your wrists or
have to be thick to be able to handle the
shot that's coming into that shaft, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I imagine if the US Open conditions were every week
on the tour, half the team players wouldn't play and I.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Highly recommend women not hitting out of it. Pick it up,
throw it out right into the fairway, because it's the
that's a good way of getting hurt.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think one of the most difficult shots. I am
a pretty good chipper of the golf ball around the greens,
pitcher chipper of the golf ball, and if I'm more
than two or three feet off the green, I'm probably
going to try to chip it. But the one thing
the shot that I find difficult, and you see this
a lot wherever you're playing, is when you have a
chip that's into the grain. Because when you're taking your
(04:08):
practice wings, you can tell if it's into the grain
or not because the club's going to stick.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It's in as the ball as soon as you hit
the turf.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And to me, that's a hard shot to hit and
probably better off hutting it more often than not. If not,
I get do you recommend the fair way woter hybrid pitch.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But you know, the hybrid pitch is really good. I
have an eleven year old girl that's really good. She's
and now doesn't shoot over thirty eight and nine holes,
and she that's she couldn't chip the golf ball really well.
So I gave her her hybrid and she learned how
to chip with her hybrid. For almost six months, that's
(04:49):
all she used and she still uses it today, not
as much as she used to. But the hybrid chip chip,
especially into the grain, is great.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Because it's a putter. It's basically a putter with extra loft.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, it's great. It's just going to skim across the grass.
The ball will be popped in the air, slight and
gets the ball rolling. It's a great idea. It's the
easiest idea to get the ball up on the green
and when you're dead into the green.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What is the most common mistake that amateur golfers make
when they find a fairway bunker.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's just like that's the amateur is in a fairway bunker.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
One.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
They don't get enough cut, enough loft to get it
over the front lip. I don't think we realize how
low it comes out. It really comes out low, and
so mainly because if you do hit it correctly, you're
hitting it a little bit on the thinner side, so
the ball is going to come out lower. So when
you look at it and go okay, I'm one hundred
(05:53):
and fifty yards that's usually my eight iron. You know,
I'm thinking, you know, and that lip is pretty high,
and you you got to look at it and go, well,
my eight iron, I think I can get it over there.
If you think, you grab the nine iron all right,
So you don't want to hit that lip and bounce
back in back towards you. So it's usually not playing
(06:14):
enough loft to get out.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What's the tip to not hit the sand first, because
you want to make sure you hit the ball first,
and if you want to if you take a divot
out of the sand, it's got to be like you
do in the fairway after contact.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
One of the best tips I've ever gotten and got
it from Leechrino and improve my fairway bunker play immensely
is that when.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You're standing over the golf ball, the you you.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
When you stand there, you want to lift your chest
up away from the sand. If you if you set
up normal, pull your chest away from the sand and
hover the club on top of the ball. Hover the
club on top of the ball, pull your chest up,
hover the club above the golf ball. Now, the key
(06:57):
here is once you've done that, you stay there. You
stay in that same inclination. So like, if I pull
up and I go, now I'm four feet away from
the ball, Stay four feet away from the ball, your
arms will extend and you'll you'll hit it thin out
of the bunker. The ball come right out without hitting
a big divot. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
For somebody that never had a golf lesson and Lee
Trevino was pretty much self taught. That guy's got a
lot of great tips. Boy, yeah, he is amazing at
some of the things I watch on his on his videos.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
The short game that he showed me, like, I'll never forget.
When we first went to Royal Oaks was with Stan
augilt stand in him.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
We're great friends.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Stan was my guy that I have a lot of
my information from and he I'm over there chipping and pitching.
While they're over there talking and hitting balls. He turned around.
He goes, son, you got no chance, and I'm like,
like looking at me, and I'm like, no chance. He
goes that pitching technique, you got no chance to make
(08:00):
it on tour.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm like, well, tell me what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
He didn't tell me anything until like the third time
we went back over there and he went through the
whole his thoughts on how to chip the ball around
the green, how to pitch bunker play? Andy, there's a
way to actually bury bunker shots. He goes, I'll make
this ball stop and he showed it to me, and
(08:25):
Stan showed it to me, and it was like it
was crazy, the stuff he can do.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Van Hogan and Tiger Woods used to use the word
you got to figure it out in the dirt and
save Ballisteros was great at this because you know, all
he had was time and a three iron and a
beach and he just went out and figured out how
to do stuff. And then as he got more, you know,
more money so he could buy a full set of
golf clubs. He knew the technique to do it with
(08:50):
the three iron, so it's a lot easier to do
it with the wadge. And the imagination that those guys
like Lee and Savvy and Gary Player who really didn't
have an opportunity to have formal lessons, and formal lessons
weren't as good as they are now. They just went
out and figured out things and then okay, that works,
so let's implement that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
So your best players of golf right are not the
best golf swings. They have the best imagination and feel.
It's not even it's not even close. You have to build.
Trevino said, every chip that you have is a new painting.
You got to draw a new paint, a new Picasso.
(09:32):
All right, he goes, it's not he goes. Every everything
you see will be different. You'll never see the same
shot twice.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Harvey Pennock used to tell Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw,
I don't want to see you dump fifteen balls in
one spot and hit the same shot over and over.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Pick up.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And I saw Rory do this at a tournament. He
had like six balls in his hand and he just
randomly threw him in different spots and what the same
club went over and figured out how to pitt Wi
was warming up because if you're yeah, you may want
to prefer at one particular shot, but moving around, even
if it's six inches or a foot, moving around, because
you're never going to have the same shot.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I think the what we do, what I like
to do is we'll go to the same flag I
lay down. I'll lay down ten golf balls, two for
every club, and I don't care where the flag is
on the green. We start with they're fifty eight or
sixty their sand wes fifty four fifty six, two balls
(10:30):
each gap, wedge pitching wedge, nine iron, eight iron, seven
irons at fourteen fourteen balls, seven iron. I go, what's
it take for you to get it close to the
hole with this club?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And you'd be surprised they have no clue. Once you
start moving around those things. You have to know what
your clubs do for you.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, you got to know the physics of the golf club.
And I got a thought on that I'll share with
you in a second. We'll get to a couple other
ten bits out of the way. Next the golf show
on the ticket
It's the golf show on the tickets.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Got some tips for you when you're watching golf in
the next two weeks, you're going to likely see some
rather difficult places to play from. You probably saw it
a little bit at the US Open at Oakmont when
the when you can barely see the top of the
golf ball, and even if you can see the golf
ball a little bit, you have if you're not used
to playing a golf course that has actual rough or
(00:30):
the uh and the wispy fescue grass that's prominent in
Scotland and Ireland, it's really hard to get your ball
back into play and you're probably just trying to get
it someplace safe. A lot of times the pros even
bite off more than they can actually chew. Any tips
for extricating yourself from the long rough when you know,
(00:51):
no matter how hard you hang onto that golf club,
the ball is probably going to come out left.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
People are not going to take out a wedge and
pitch it out, and a lot of people anymore. That said,
the reason is like I'm here, I paid my money,
I'm going to take a whack and see what happens, all.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Right, it's crooked numbers coming. Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
If you have a nine wood, if you have an
eleven wood, if you carry like a five or six
hybrid right and if you want to take a smack
out of that stuff, that that might give you a
shot like a nine wood. It definitely could. When we
were in South Africa, the rough was so brutal. No
(01:42):
matter what we did, the ball went straight left and
we got those We got these things. I forgot what
it was called, just across my mind, but it was
like it was like a seven iron, but it was
a wood and that was the only thing that we
could get out with.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think one of the things is good to see
because when I was at both Carnoustie and at Mirfield,
and I played Carnoostie in twenty three and twenty five
and Mirfield in sixteen and twenty five. When I played
Mirfield in twenty sixteen, the rough was high the heather
and there were several holes where it was waist high.
(02:23):
And it wasn't that way they mowed all that stuff down.
It was you could find your golf ball and it
would still be a tough lie, but you can get
a wedge on it. And get it back into play.
If he hit it over there, you could even get
like a seven wood on it or a hybrid on
it if you did make sure you hit ball first.
And I was asking the caddy. I said, this golf
by both golf courses. I was, this is not as
(02:45):
difficult as it used to be. And he said the
members just got sick and tired of losing golf balls.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, I mean, the.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Every golf club in the world is going to age
at some point. And they got me, if you hit
it over there, you're probably not going to find it
and it's going to take another thirty minutes to play
the hole. And it said this, if we get the Open,
we'll grow the rough backup. If we don't, we'll just
keep it this way.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Golf balls are expensive, right, And the second of all
too is injury. All right, Yes, it would. You have
to have to be able to get out of the rough.
Your hands have to be super strong, your wrists or
have to be thick to be able to handle the
shot that's coming into that shaft, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I imagine if the US Open conditions were every week
on the tour, half the team players wouldn't play and I.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Highly recommend women not hitting out of it. Pick it up,
throw it out right into the fairway, because it's the
that's a good way of getting hurt.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think one of the most difficult shots. I am
a pretty good chipper of the golf ball around the greens,
pitcher chipper of the golf ball, and if I'm more
than two or three feet off the green, I'm probably
going to try to chip it. But the one thing
the shot that I find difficult, and you see this
a lot wherever you're playing, is when you have a
chip that's into the grain. Because when you're taking your
(04:08):
practice wings, you can tell if it's into the grain
or not because the club's going to stick.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It's in as the ball as soon as you hit
the turf.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And to me, that's a hard shot to hit and
probably better off hutting it more often than not. If not,
I get do you recommend the fair way woter hybrid pitch.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But you know, the hybrid pitch is really good. I
have an eleven year old girl that's really good. She's
and now doesn't shoot over thirty eight and nine holes,
and she that's she couldn't chip the golf ball really well.
So I gave her her hybrid and she learned how
to chip with her hybrid. For almost six months, that's
(04:49):
all she used and she still uses it today, not
as much as she used to. But the hybrid chip chip,
especially into the grain, is great.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Because it's a putter. It's basically a putter with extra loft.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, it's great. It's just going to skim across the grass.
The ball will be popped in the air, slight and
gets the ball rolling. It's a great idea. It's the
easiest idea to get the ball up on the green
and when you're dead into the green.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What is the most common mistake that amateur golfers make
when they find a fairway bunker.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's just like that's the amateur is in a fairway bunker.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
One.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
They don't get enough cut, enough loft to get it
over the front lip. I don't think we realize how
low it comes out. It really comes out low, and
so mainly because if you do hit it correctly, you're
hitting it a little bit on the thinner side, so
the ball is going to come out lower. So when
you look at it and go okay, I'm one hundred
(05:53):
and fifty yards that's usually my eight iron. You know,
I'm thinking, you know, and that lip is pretty high,
and you you got to look at it and go, well,
my eight iron, I think I can get it over there.
If you think, you grab the nine iron all right,
So you don't want to hit that lip and bounce
back in back towards you. So it's usually not playing
(06:14):
enough loft to get out.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What's the tip to not hit the sand first, because
you want to make sure you hit the ball first,
and if you want to if you take a divot
out of the sand, it's got to be like you
do in the fairway after contact.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
One of the best tips I've ever gotten and got
it from Leechrino and improve my fairway bunker play immensely
is that when.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You're standing over the golf ball, the you you.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
When you stand there, you want to lift your chest
up away from the sand. If you if you set
up normal, pull your chest away from the sand and
hover the club on top of the ball. Hover the
club on top of the ball, pull your chest up,
hover the club above the golf ball. Now, the key
(06:57):
here is once you've done that, you stay there. You
stay in that same inclination. So like, if I pull
up and I go, now I'm four feet away from
the ball, Stay four feet away from the ball, your
arms will extend and you'll you'll hit it thin out
of the bunker. The ball come right out without hitting
a big divot. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
For somebody that never had a golf lesson and Lee
Trevino was pretty much self taught. That guy's got a
lot of great tips. Boy, yeah, he is amazing at
some of the things I watch on his on his videos.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
The short game that he showed me, like, I'll never forget.
When we first went to Royal Oaks was with Stan
augilt stand in him.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
We're great friends.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Stan was my guy that I have a lot of
my information from and he I'm over there chipping and pitching.
While they're over there talking and hitting balls. He turned around.
He goes, son, you got no chance, and I'm like,
like looking at me, and I'm like, no chance. He
goes that pitching technique, you got no chance to make
(08:00):
it on tour.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm like, well, tell me what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
He didn't tell me anything until like the third time
we went back over there and he went through the
whole his thoughts on how to chip the ball around
the green, how to pitch bunker play? Andy, there's a
way to actually bury bunker shots. He goes, I'll make
this ball stop and he showed it to me, and
(08:25):
Stan showed it to me, and it was like it
was crazy, the stuff he can do.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Van Hogan and Tiger Woods used to use the word
you got to figure it out in the dirt and
save Ballisteros was great at this because you know, all
he had was time and a three iron and a
beach and he just went out and figured out how
to do stuff. And then as he got more, you know,
more money so he could buy a full set of
golf clubs. He knew the technique to do it with
(08:50):
the three iron, so it's a lot easier to do
it with the wadge. And the imagination that those guys
like Lee and Savvy and Gary Player who really didn't
have an opportunity to have formal lessons, and formal lessons
weren't as good as they are now. They just went
out and figured out things and then okay, that works,
so let's implement that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
So your best players of golf right are not the
best golf swings. They have the best imagination and feel.
It's not even it's not even close. You have to build.
Trevino said, every chip that you have is a new painting.
You got to draw a new paint, a new Picasso.
(09:32):
All right, he goes, it's not he goes. Every everything
you see will be different. You'll never see the same
shot twice.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Harvey Pennock used to tell Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw,
I don't want to see you dump fifteen balls in
one spot and hit the same shot over and over.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Pick up.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And I saw Rory do this at a tournament. He
had like six balls in his hand and he just
randomly threw him in different spots and what the same
club went over and figured out how to pitt Wi
was warming up because if you're yeah, you may want
to prefer at one particular shot, but moving around, even
if it's six inches or a foot, moving around, because
you're never going to have the same shot.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I think the what we do, what I like
to do is we'll go to the same flag I
lay down. I'll lay down ten golf balls, two for
every club, and I don't care where the flag is
on the green. We start with they're fifty eight or
sixty their sand wes fifty four fifty six, two balls
(10:30):
each gap, wedge pitching wedge, nine iron, eight iron, seven
irons at fourteen fourteen balls, seven iron. I go, what's
it take for you to get it close to the
hole with this club?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And you'd be surprised they have no clue. Once you
start moving around those things. You have to know what
your clubs do for you.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, you got to know the physics of the golf club.
And I got a thought on that I'll share with
you in a second. We'll get to a couple other
ten bits out of the way. Next the golf show
on the ticket
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