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July 19, 2025 16 mins
See what’s new on The Trail & we’re three rounds into the Open Championship.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, It's Andy Everett. Enjoy this podcast version of
The Golf Show from sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Now from sports Radio AM seven to sixty The Ticket.
This is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf
Show brought to you by MK Golf Tech, Joe Caruso's
Golf Academy, and by Alamo City Golf Trail. Now on
the first t Andy Everett.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Here we go on a Saturday morning.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's Open Championship Round three in the works, and as
you might expect, Scotti Scheffler has the lead. We'll be
discussing all of that coming up, some great Open stories
to share with you, potential future sites of the Open Championship,
Ryder Cup news, and a whole lot more as we
get things started on the show this morning, Andrew Peterson

(00:54):
from the Almosty Golf Trail he is with us this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Good morning, Andy, Hi, how are you? Thanks for having me?
Very well. Let's talk about the trail.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
The conditions the last few weeks that I played have
been good and we're into summer growing season. Obviously, I've
had some rain a lot, but seems like the greens
have been able to hold up and lots of good
golf going on on the trail.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
I know you're busy. Yeah, we're real busy. Conditions across
the trail are very favorable. In fact, I would say
kind of from a course to course, they're probably as
good as they have been in quite some time, if
maybe ever, very very satisfied with it, and we're getting
a lot of positive feedback. Cedar Creek is exceptional. We're
going to host the City Men's Amateur there next weekend,

(01:40):
so we're priming up for that. Bract's good, Riverside has
really bounced back, and Riverside is in fantastic shape. Almost
basins in great, great shape. They're all really really good.
I'm very very happy.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
What's the status of the regressing project at Willows Springs.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Do we have a opening date for that yet?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah? I don't know if I want to formally announce that,
just in case some disaster strikes, but we're gearing towards Friday,
August eighth.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Which is three weeks from yesterday.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
We could play on the greens right now, just kind
of needing a little help and getting a few of
the fairways to fill in. But I think people are
going to be really excited about it. We've removed all
the bunkers and that platinum past pallum that we used
on fairways approaches, tea boxes and greens and sensational surface.
So talk about the bunkering. What did you specifically do there? Well,

(02:28):
I think if you remember right, Andy, you've played there
a long time obviously, and there was kind of a
front right bunker and a front left bunker on every
single hole, and they had just become a volcanoes as
as the years of progressed and sand's been splashed out
of them. They've just been built up all the way
around and they looked and played awful. So we actually

(02:50):
scraped them all down. Some we've turned into grass hollows
and swales and others just have kind of a turtleback
mounting around them. So really kind of a un cool feature.
It's gonna make the greens seem like they're really really big.
It's gonna make the golf course fun for every ability level.
Don't don't get me wrong. If you miss on the
short side or on the low side of some of those,

(03:12):
it's gonna roll off and you're gonna have some tricky
little pitches into short shots. But it's it's gonna be
a really unique feature and it's gonna be really a
fun for everyone.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
And you know, and the grass on the fairways is
going to be the same as the grass on the greens.
It'll just be a little bit of different mowing height.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Correct. Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
And I've kind of joked that it's impossible for our
greens to shrink because if they do happen to shrink
and you miss your mowing lines by you know, fraction
of an inch over time, you just push them back
out right because it's the same grass, which means that
we can do a lot of unique features with them,
I would think also, And it obviously depends on the
season and drop conditions or wet conditions. But like, uh,

(03:52):
we're watching the Open Championship at Royalport Rush, which we'll
get to in a bit, and I just got back
from Scotland about or so ago.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
You can putt from the fair way on some.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Of the golf courses over there from fifty sixty yards
out if you want to. Now I'm not suggesting that
we do that here, but you can have some more
options around greens with how you get to the ball
when you miss greens.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah. Andy, we've talked about this, certainly when it's wintertime
and Andy darmit in Texas at the wedge of the bag,
that low lofted column has become a more prevalent option.
And you're exactly right, and I think you're going to
have that.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Feature around Willow Springs.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
If you want to throw it up in the air,
if you want to bump it with a hybrid, or
if you want to put it, all those options are
in play.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Let's talk about the City Championship next week. I know
you're excited about taking that particular tournament over and moving
it to one of the premier golf courses in the
city at Cedar Creek.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah. For sure.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
This is our first time ever hosting the City Amateur.
Kudos to the Golf San Antonio, Carrie Kimberl and her
group and certainly Marry a character before that. They did
an awesome job and the legacy of that tournament has
really been something that people have enjoyed. Our goal is
to raise the bar of that long term. What I

(05:03):
would like to do, Andy, is have it to where
it's a a flighted event. So obviously you're going to
have the championship the group and the best of the best,
and they're gonna be dueling that out, and those guys
will be named the City Amateur, but also have a
flighted event so players of every ability level can play.
And ideally I see that to where the championship flight
would play at Cedar Creek, and then you have a

(05:25):
first and second flight that plays at let's just call
it Willow Springs, and then a third and fourth flight
that would play at almost Base in the fourth fifth
flight to play at Riverside, and so on down the
way where we use the entire trail system for the
golf tournament. I think this year we're going to land
somewhere in the neighborhood of fifty ish players, which is
a good place for us to start. A lot of

(05:45):
college kids playing. I think we're going to see some
real studs playing and good scores. Cedar Creek is continuing
to mature and get better. Turf conditions out there are fantastic,
and I think we're going to set the golf course
up to where we don't come lately.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Destroy everyone's ego, but we make sure that we keep
it in check.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Look at I look at everything has to be progressive.
If you're not moving forward, you're standing still. I've been
in jobs for over forty years of my life, and
every month, every week, every year, things change, and usually
everybody is trying to strive to make them as good
as they can be and to better them. And I
think a lot of people resist change, and as we

(06:26):
get older, we mean, I'm not a big fan of
self checkout, but it's here to stay and it's not
going anywhere, so deal with it unless you just want
to wait in line. If you've got a couple of items,
you better self check out. Are you going to be
there for a while. But it's I think what you're
doing with the City Championship is making it the premiere
amateur event in San Antonio, or at least the long

(06:47):
term goal, and sometimes that does take a little bit
of change to be able to.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Put on a first class event. Yeah, well, thanks Andy.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
My philosophy's akin to yours, is you know, I'm always
trying to push our team to where we continue to elevate,
and I'm blessed to work with some awesome people that
that have that mission in that mindset too. But in
regard to that City Championship, it's a little bit more
expensive than maybe what people.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Have paid in the past.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
But in the past it's been kind of all the carts,
you pay for your cart fees, and you pay for
your range balls and and all that stuff on top
of what the entry fee is. We've rolled it all
into one and I think that we'll learn a lot
from this, and and I'll certainly ask a lot of
the participants and their feedback as we grow it. But
there's lots of good players at the clubs, there's lots

(07:33):
of good players at municipal level, there's lots of good
players just.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Outside the city.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
And I want people to put the City Amateur on
their calendar at the start of every year and say
this is one of the marque events that I want
to play in, and really work on that participation level.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
And your team is worked diligently to make sure that
it doesn't conflict with a state Amateur or a lot
of the other major amateur championships around the city and state.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yeah, probably possible to you know, not miss on on
a couple here and there. I know that there's a
state four ball that's maybe up in the North Texas area.
I think that might take a couple of players from
who would normally play. But I also hope that we're
going to establish the third week of July is the
City Championship date.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Moving forward, it'll always.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Be at Cedar Creek, and I think we set that
on the calendar and then you know, ask the the
other clubs around town. Hey, make sure you're your club
championship and your member Gaston and your other events are
outside of that.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
A week or two before.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
All right, the Open Championship is going on, and I
look forward to this tournament as much as any other tournament.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
You're in, you're out.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
The Masters obviously kind of kicks off the spring and
it's such an exclusive place to be and many so
few people have ever been able to go, and fewer
people than that have ever been able to play it.
But the one thing that I always look about with
the Open Championship is every one of their venues is
accessible to the public if you don't mind paying the
green fee.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
It is a short to go over there.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're gonna have to deal with weather, and it's international
travel and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
But I really enjoy.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Watching this event because it is so different than what
we do here.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
And if you ever get a chance to.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Go over there and play, whether it's Ireland or England
or Scotland or Wales, you're gonna play a little differently
with the ball not necessarily in the air as much
and trying to access flags on the ground.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I couldn't I couldn't agree more with you, Andy.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
It's always Masters first for me, but the Open Championship
is a close second. It's normally when I can shake
a breakfast out of my wife.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
To watch the tournament on the weekend mornings. I love
the style of golf.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I love hitting bump shots and watching the players play
around the fescue and the high grass and the different
nuances of that golf and just watching it here in.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Your in your studio. It's just it's just so exciting.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And it's kind of fun too, because caddies normally can
figure out exactly what you're doing, and they they pretty
much have your swing down by about the second or
third hold that what your capabilities are. They're really keen
on figuring that out, and they can tell. They ask
you your handicap and I always say, yeah, my handicaps
are three or four or five, whatever it is. But

(10:14):
I typically play on easier golf courses than this, and
so I'm gonna I'm gonna struggle with fighting fairways probably,
but I can hit pretty much whatever shot you think
I need to hit. And then sometimes he'll challenge you
and go, do you think you can hit this screen?
Or do you want to play safe? And so I
really enjoy that part of it as well. It's unique

(10:35):
to have caddies, and caddies are a big deal over there.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I've only had one trip to Scotland. You've had many,
so you've experienced a lot more than I have. But
it's interesting when the caddies can can recognize what you're
capable of and on a two hundred yard shot, they're
gonna say hit it one hundred and fifty. Yeah, and
then it'll bounce and trundle up the rest of the
way and you're thinking, and you know, most of the
time in America you're flying it onto the surface andefully

(11:00):
getting it to grab and hitting that type of shot,
where the expectations of how you play that game there
are just different.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
The ground is your friend over there, all right.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
There was controversy yesterday at the Open Championship, and I
know I'm going to upset some of our rules officials
friends that listen from time to time, and I apologize
ahead of time. But there was a ruling for Shane
Lowry yesterday where his ball moved when he was taking
a practice swing and he did not see the ball move,
and he swears that he never saw the ball basically

(11:30):
oscillated about a half a turn, and video saw that
happened and they reviewed it. He was notified on the
fifteenth holl that we were going to have to look
at some video when you get in and the penolice's
going to be two shots, one because the ball moved
and two because you didn't move it back, which I
think it would have been impossible to recreate the lie
with as much as much ankle high fescue grass as

(11:51):
there was in that particular situation. And so after it
was on they thought about it for about fifteen minutes
and said, yeah, it's two stroke penalty.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'm going to talk about the rule in a second.
But Shane Lowry was on TV every shot yesterday because
he's one of the marquee players in this event, the
defending champion from when it was there in twenty nineteen.
And one of Ireland's you know, favorite suns. So he's
on TV a lot, and he was in contention for
a while and his shots are being shown. If there's

(12:23):
somebody ten groups back who's not on TV and the
exact same thing happens, nobody knows. And since he did
not physically see it move, I don't think he should
have been penalized because I know you're trying to protect
the field, but there's one hundred and fifty five others
that may or may not have been on TV at
that time to get that one little close up shot

(12:46):
that one cameraman decided to show you what the lie
look like. You know, there's fifty other guys that are
shooting seven over that weren't in that position.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I respectfully disagree. I'd not hundred percent of speed on
what happened. I had the TV on in my office,
but the volume was off and I saw the replay
of it and the.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Ball clearly moved it.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
So if that's if that's what they're gauging the penalty on.
Hard to dispute that. It is unfortunate, though, that the
camera was on him, because he is, you know, Ireland's
second favorite son behind Rory that that transpired. But hey,
a rules a rule, and I think Lowry's a class act.

(13:30):
He's one of my favorite guys out there. And I
think once he saw it, he probably said, yep, I
didn't I didn't see it because.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
My head wasn't looking at at the ball that place.
And I get that standpoint. That's what he did. And
you know, it's just unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Let me ask you this because back in twenty sixteen
at the Open Championship, there was a situation with Dustin
Johnson on the putting green where his ball moved, and
the next year the RNA and the USGA changed the
rule to where if you inadvertently moved the ball when
it's on the putting surf, there's no penalty, just put
it back. Why don't we have that rule from Teita Green?

(14:05):
Because I know it's annoying for me. I get on
a hard pain lie or there's pine straw and I've
just happened to brush my club afoot from the ball
and all of a sudden I see it move. Okay,
now I got to move it back and it's a
stroke if it's inadvertent, Why are we making that a penalty?
And I know that that's one of the rules, and

(14:26):
as long as the rules are there, we got to
abide by the rules. But we've changed a million rules
in the last twenty years. Why can't we change that one.
Well hard to argue that. I certainly believe that. I
guess my position would be until they change. It is
the rule.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
And if you're potentially gonna move the ball or alter
the position of the ball by a practice swing, move
further away in that practice swing.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
So that's not the case.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, that happened to VJ. Singh once at the PG
at the at Sawgrass. He was literally fifteen feet away
from where his ball all was taking practice wings. And
Gary Kocher somebody said, with as much pine straw that's
around his ball, he better be that far away because
he can still make the ball move, eve if he
was a foot or two away. So VJ was a
long way away from it. Making sure that if that

(15:15):
ball moves, it's not because of me. I'm a mile
away from it, right. But I do think that we
changed the rule with Dustin Johnson on the green. I'm
just curious as to why the rule wasn't changed from
because like there's a video of Zach Johnson, and the
ball is teed up on the tee, but the ball's
not in play yet until you actually make a swing.
So he's taken a couple of practice wings and he

(15:36):
got too close to the ball and it fell off
the tee, but he kind of hit it, and so
that's not it. That's not a penalty because the ball's
not in play. Once the ball leaves the tea box,
the ball is in play, and if you touch it
or move it, or it oscillates by your hand, then
it's considered that you moved it and the penalty occurs.
But I know from personal experience in the fifty years

(15:56):
I play golf, there's been a lot of times where
I didn't mean to move the ball, but it moved.
And if you're playing it up and you're rolling the
ball anyway, who cares. But if you're playing it down,
which I usually do, it's it's kind of a it's
kind of the pressing that, Okay, I got a chance
to make a birdie on this whole, Now I got

(16:17):
to struggle to make a par and and I just
think that if you're not meaning to move the ball,
then that's something that they should look into they're doing
it now in the greens. Why can't we do it
when it's in play?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well, sometimes situations like this cause rules change, yes, So
you know, let's just be tracking this and see what
happens in the future.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
All right, Let's talk about the Open Championship a little
bit more and the robot that is Scottie Scheffler. It
doesn't seem to matter where he is, he keeps hitting it. Well,
it's a golf show on the ticket.
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