The Golf Show 7-26-25 2025 SEG 1: Scottie’s Historic Dominance

What Scottie Scheffler would need to do to ‘catch’ Tiger.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everyone, It's Andy Everett.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Enjoy this podcast version of The Golf Show from sports
Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Now from sports Radio AM seven sixty The Ticket. This
is another edition of The Golf Show. The Golf Show
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t Andy Everett.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Here we go on a Saturday morning time to talk golf.
We are a week removed from the Open Championship and
another Scotty Scheffler performance that was quite impressive. And I've
got some comparisons that i want to share with you
with Scotty Scheffler, and a lot has been talked about
what's been going on with him and his pursuit of

(00:48):
Tiger Woods, and how much of a comparison you can
make to Scotty now and Tiger about twenty five years
ago or so. Speaking of the Open Championship. John Hagen,
who has been a part of our show on many
different occasions, lives in the Pebble Beach area. In fact,
he's probably walking Pebble Beach right now. Tough life, huh,
and has been a part and a partner with the

(01:12):
Saint Andrews Links Trust. Over the years, has been very
close to that organization. His book play Away Please details
him buying a starter shack that used to be at
the old course, and then unfortunately, when it was shipped
to California where he lives, it came in so many
different pieces that it never is able to be reconstructed
back together. But we've had him on many times before

(01:36):
to talk about the play Away Please book. He's got
other books out there and doing quite well out in California,
so I'll get his thoughts on the open and future opens,
because there are a lot of people that want to
go back to some traditional golf courses, and while we
talk about the length of those golf courses being a challenge,
there's also infrastructure in those areas that may make it

(01:59):
to a situation where at some point they have to
go off of the ten course Open Roda. I'll talk
about that as well in some of my thoughts, and
then we'll get John's as well. Ali Jared is the
executive director of the Hall of Fame, the Golf Hall
of Fame in Texas. They are starting a PSA campaign
and telling people about the virtual online Hall of Fame,

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where you can go online and do all the and
participate as if you were going through the museum itself.
Obviously a lot of the artifacts and things are at
the Bergheim Museum down at Brackenridge. So we'll talk about
ALI and the campaign that they're doing to get more
and more people involved with the Hall of Fame and

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the next class that will be inducted here pretty soon
as well. It has been a busy, busy summer for
Brian Gathwright. He is teaching three golfers in San Antonio
that have unbelievable opportunities to play professional golf. Mac Meisner
is a nine under par I think fourteen unders leading

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Minnesota at the three M Championship, and Mac is a
San Antonio golfer and has played good golf all year long.
So he is up in Minnesota working with Mac this
week as he prepares for the weekend. Five under four
under were his two rounds this week, so we'll get
Brian's thoughts on that. Earlier in the week, he was
in Indianapolis at the corn Ferria Tournament where Max's brother

(03:22):
Mitchell and Johnny Keefer, who we've documented throughout the year
has been participating.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Johnny's number one, I still believe.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
On the corn Ferry tour, we'll talk about talk about
those three. It's amazing to have one individual from San
Antonio that's got PGA to our potential, but two brothers
and another golfer in Johnny Keefer. Plus we have a
tip of the week that Brian will share with us
coming up in the final segment of the show. Last week,

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of course, it was Scotty Scheffler. Scotty did it again,
and anytime you see Scotty's name at the top of
the leaderboard, we automatically think that he's gonna win. To
back in the day when Tiger would get to the
top of the leaderboard and everybody.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Would fall apart.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I'm not sure that people have the same intimidation or
Scotty has the same intimidation factor. I just think he's better.
I don't think people fall off the lieberd. You go
back to the two thousand and one Masters or two
thousand and two Masters, when Tiger repeated David Duvaldis saw
saw Tiger got the bleederboard and immediately started making bogies
and doubles. It's not I don't think that Scotty separates

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himself by other people falling off. It's that he just
puts on the gas and moves ahead of people, and
if he does make a mistake, he usually gets back
and makes birdie with it. And I think he has
got thirty six percent and bounced back safe. So bounce
back means if you make a bogey, do you how
often do you return on the next hole and make

(04:49):
a birdie? And Scotty this year is doing that thirty
six percent of the time. That's basically over a third
of the time he makes a bogey, he's coming back
and doing something spectacular to get that shot back. I
want to kind of hesitate to compare Tiger and Scotty,
although they're similar in the way that they're dominating golf
tournaments right now. Let's do keep in mind, and I'm

(05:10):
not making this Tiger bias. If Scotty was doing what
Tiger did, I'd certainly be on Scotty's I always like
to see records broken.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I always like to see the next thing come.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And it's very rare that we get two once in
a lifetime players back to back generationally, which I think
you could say that Tiger and Scotty could be. But
by the time Tiger was twenty nine years old, he'd
won forty two tournaments. Scotty's only one seventeen. Tiger, I
think was at seven or eight or nine majors by now.
Scott he's at four.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
That doesn't mean that Scotty isn't going to have a
better trip through his thirties than Tiger did, especially late
thirties and early forties when Tiger's body started breaking down.
I've always been hyper critical of Tiger in the past
because I think a lot of his demise was self inflicted.
I think the Navy Seals training stuff that he did

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six seven, eight and after that was some of the
most ridiculous stuff. And this guilt trip that he was
on because you know, his dad was a Green Beret
and he was just a golfer. And I listen, if
you're a special ops person, if you're a Navy Seal
or a Seal Team six, I've got all the I've

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got all the respect for you in the world. You're
protecting our freedoms, and I want more and more of
you to do that. And I'm glad that we have
a volunteer army because it gives us, I think, the
best protection. But I don't think a professional golfer needs
to feel guilty about not doing it and going out
there and screwing up his body to where he has
the Achilles and he has all the injuries. And I

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would like to see how Tiger's career would have been
different if he hadn't gone through all that intense heavy lifting.
A soldier needs to be able to carry his comrade
out of harm. A golfer needs to have a more
elastic body, a more flex and Tiger I think lost
a lot of that. So the numbers that Tiger could

(07:04):
have potentially posted if he hadn't self inflicted injury, I
think we could have even seen things that would have
even been more dominant it was. I think most of
us have heard these statistics. Scotty Scheffler has won seventeen tournaments,
Tiger won forty two. But here's the one that I
keep going back. Tiger was number one in the world

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for over six hundred weeks and Scotty has been.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Number one in the world for about one hundred or
so of those weeks.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Statistically speaking, Tiger or Scotty has to stay number one
in the world until sometime in twenty thirty five, and
that's never not being number one between now and twenty
thirty five. My guess is is that the Schefflers will
have more kids, the demand on his time will be
greater because he'll want to see them grow up some.
He made a great comment last week, I thought at

(07:54):
the Open Championship media event when he said.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know, I don't want to travel all over the
world world yet.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Maybe when my kids grow up I will, But right
now I'm not gonna go play a lot of tournaments
in Asia and in Africa and in Australia. I'm gonna
play the PGA Tour. I'm gonna play the majors, which
means I got to come to Scotland, you know, for
the Scottish Open, in the Open Championship every year. But
I'm going to play seventeen tournaments on the PGA Tour,

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And when I'm not playing, I'm going to be doing
stuff with Meredith and Bennett and any other family that
we have in the future. And I think he does
a great job of compartmentalizing things. So I think Scotty's
great and I hope he does have more wins, and
I think it's good for golf when you have a
dominating player. I also have a comparison that I want
people to think. I'm going to talk more about this

(08:42):
on the Monday Show when we're back on Monday afternoon.
I think Scotty Scheffler is the Tim Duncan of golf.
How many people that watch that follow the NBA and
have for the last twenty five plus years, We'll tell you, Yeah,
Tim was great, but he was boring.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Tim was this, but he was that.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Tim Ducan didn't let the minutia of basketball get in
the way of him having a life. Tim Ducan never
wanted to do a whole bunch of endorsements. There were
a few that he did. I can remember the Edge
commercial that he did with David Maybe there were some others.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
But I've said this many times.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Tim duckan left two hundred million dollars on the table
in endorsements and contract if he wanted to be more
highly paid and do more endorsement stuff. He chose to
have a life beyond basketball and to keep it as
private as he possibly could. I think Scotty's the same way.
Scotty goes to the gym, Scotty goes to the driving range,

(09:39):
to the golf course, and then he goes and hangs
out with the wife and the kids. And when he
goes on a trip or on vacation, we don't even
know that he went. And he's probably practicing his golf
at some obscure driving range somewhere, playing nine holes with
somebody that no one's ever known. But he's not going
to seek the limelight. Tiger was always in the limelight.
Tiger Shot thrived in the limelight. So I think there's

(10:02):
a lot of comparison between Scotty and Tim Duncan. Here's
something else I want to think. I want you to
try to think about this time of the year. In
the last three or four weeks, there have been a
ton of shows on Golf Channel that have gone back
and chronicled the other opens in the past seventy five,
with Watson winning at Carnoustie seventy seven, the Duel and

(10:25):
the Sun at Turnberry, Sevy winning in eighty four with
the big puff, fist pump when he hold the putt
on eighteen, and many other tournaments. No one of the
things that I didn't that I look at when I
watch those old tournaments, nobody wore hats.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Golfers did not wear hats.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I wonder if they weren't billboards that they were getting
paid a lot of money for, would they still still
not wear hats. I don't even like to practice without
wearing a hat. It's just something I've always done. I've
never not golfed without a hat, but I do recall,
you know, obviously there was the controversy last the Ryder

(11:04):
Cup when Patrick Cantley refused to wear the hat because
he couldn't put his logos on it, and years ago
Rory McElroy at the at the Ryder Cup did not
wear a hat, which a lot of golfers on the
European team did not, and he said, it's not that
I don't want to wear a hat, it's I would
rather not wear a hat period. I'm required to wear
a hat when I play golf on the tour, and listen,

(11:29):
I'm one hundred percent on board. I understand this as
a legitimate reason. There are certain brands of hats that
look really nice that don't fit my head. And Rory
wears a Nike cap and they fit differently than every
other cap out there. I'm I can attest to that
as well. But Nike's paying him ten million dollars a
year to wear that hat and to have that logo

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as prominent as possible on the hat and the shirt.
So I understand why golfers now do it. But it's
interesting to go back and watch all those old films
when they rarely did right there are ten golf courses
right now in the Open Championship, in the Open Road.
We know about Poor Rush, we know about the five
in Scotland, Old Course, Carnousteam Mirfield, Turnbury in Troon, and

(12:10):
the FOI in England, Saint George, Saint George's Burgdale, Liverpool
and Litham. There is a lot of talk that Lithom
is going to have is next on the rotation. It
has not hosted a tournament since twenty twelve except on
the ladies and Seniors. It's not hosted an Open Championship.
And part of the reason why is that you need
the infrastructure for television, for hospitality and for about three

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hundred thousand people that want to attend the Open and
they don't want to narrow who can go, and Lithom
is going to have to acquire land it looks like,
and I don't even know if the land is attainable
in order for them to be able to host future opens.
And there's been talk that they may get it in
twenty eight, twenty nine or thirty, but then again they
may not, and the RNA's got some situations they've got

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to deal with. We know we're going to Birkdale next
year into the old course in twenty seven, but twenty eight,
twenty nine, thirty and thirty one are not in the cards.
When I was in Scotland this past year, the folks
at CARNOUSTI think they're getting it again in thirty one,
but they may have to make the hotel a little
bit bigger, or tear it down and move it back.
I really don't understand why they need to linthen the

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first and seventeenth holes. The first hole is a great
starting hole because it's probably the easiest hole in the course,
and the seventeenth hole is already one of the most
difficult on the golf course. I'm not sure why we
need to make it even more difficult. It's into the
prevailing wind and it's hard enough as we are. As
we close this segment, I'm going to ask this question,
and it's something I'm going to dive into a little

(13:37):
bit more in a segment on Monday. When this year
is up, are we going to remember that Scotty Scheffler
won two Majors and is now one away from the
Grand Slam if he wins the US Open In the future,
are we going to remember this was the year that
Rory won the Grand Slam And as good of a
year as Scotty has and I believe Scotty may be

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the player of the year, especially if he goes on
to win the FedEx Cup, which he's got a great
chance of doing, I still think this will be the
year that we remember that Rory won the Masters and
the Grand Slam. Let's talk more about this with John Hagen.
He'll be our

Speaker 1 (14:12):
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