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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the first t Andy Everett, all right, it's Saturday morning
at eight o'clock. That means we talk golf for an
hour on the Ticket seven to sixty Golf Show, and
lots to get to that's happening in the last week
or so, plus what's going on right now at both
the Greensboro event, the last stop on the PGA Tour,
and the AIG Women's Open in Wales. So we'll get
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to all of those things as well. We introduce Joe
Caruso back with us again this morning. I know this
is another busy time of the year for you. Lots
of people wanting golf lessons, and that's good for you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's been a great summer with great summer with the
summer camps. We've got one more next week and we've
had one hundred and I believe one hundred and thirty
seven kids come through so far, so it's a great
summer so far.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Are you seeing more and more really talented athletes play golf,
and especially on the boy's side, choosing golf over the
contact sports.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I not. I think the contact sports a little bit,
but I think what you're seeing in the boys is
that there's a lot of boys wanting to play golf.
They might not necessarily want to play on the golf
team at school, but there's a lot of boys out
of sem Pedro and then they hit balls all over
the place on the range, and then they run and
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play the part three, so it's really good. I think
what you're seeing is a lot of the athletes coming
right now. In the girls division, it's getting Sanntonio in it.
There's this eight to thirteen year old division strong. There's
at least eight and they're all breaking eighty and some
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are breaking par already.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
You know, it used to be I would say, maybe
as early as five or six years ago, if you
had a daughter that like golf and she could break
eighty five, there was a scholarship for somewhere. Maybe that
score is getting a little bit lower now. Because of
the more and more players that are wanting to play.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, like the Division three will take you know, somebody
who shoots like seventy eight seventy seven, But Division two,
like Saint Mary's University here, and they got a really
good coach over there. They're they're getting you know, national championships,
you said, and you have to shoot seventy two or better.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, So we talk about this before a little bit,
but I think it bears bringing back up. I know
when I first started playing years ago, and we didn't
have near the technology that we have now, but it
took me about two years to break a hundred and
so I started when I was about ten, and probably
when I was twelve thirteen, i broke a hundred, and
I was probably pretty quickly after that I broke ninety.
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And then it took me till I was a freshman
in high school to break eighty for the first time,
or maybe even a sophomore in high school. But then
I would kind of hover around seventy eight to eighty
four for most for a long time. And then I
got to where I could normally shoot in the seventies.
And I think every time you stare step down ten shots,
it becomes more and more difficult. How does how do
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you teach or how do you encourage players to get
comfortable shooting a score that's really not comfortable for them.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's a really good question. I think it comes down
to the we spent a We're going to give you
an example. We have a eleven year old girl that
was at forty. You know, us kids shooting forty forty one,
forty two, forty can't break that. Berrier might shoot thirty
nine every once in a while. So we decided to
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go out onto the part three and we played from
thirty five yards and end, and we'd hit three shots
from thirty in, three shots from twenty and three shots
from ten until she felt very comfortable, one hitting the green,
two hitting shots that were truly good shots, and gave
her a shout self a chance. Well, now she's thirty seven,
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thirty six, and I believe that's what took her to
the next level. And we've been doing that now for
the last six months. With all the younger ones that
are hovering like you're talking about. There's another one named Kelsey.
She's already five to four, she's ten. She just drills
the driver and it's like, how are we going to
break that forty barrier onto the golf course? Start hitting chips, pitches,
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mainly pitches Andy, Yeah, I think you know, from twenty
thirty yards in the air, all right, landing on a green,
what does it do? You know?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And that also creates you know, the best golfer in
the world is going to hit thirteen greens on the average,
the on the on any tour. So that means at
least five times around you're not hitting a green so
that you have a chance for a birdie or two
by par you better have figure out a way to
get those that in the hole more often.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I think it's the Also the parents get a little
upset because first thing I tell them, I go, we
need to play more of a premium ball, something that spins,
you know, so that they can see what the ball
truly does when it hits the green. But it's like,
if you can't at that level at shooting forty, if
you can't get the ball onto the green, that's the start,
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because you don't want to mishit it and then hit
it again. That's double bogie. So that's what we've been doing.
It's been very successful. So far.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, And I think the premium ball is a big
thing too. And I always tell people find one that
you like and one that you can afford, and keep
playing with it because and I play with people all
the time that they're playing with a callaway on the
first hole and a tit list on the second hole
and a tailor made on the third hole. And you're
not going to get consistency when you're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
That, No, And you know that. You know when we
were playing then, I couldn't afford the titles ball.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So it was like because they were and I'd tear
them up after the first ball, all right, so go
to a dozen round.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Top flight into the wind, titles down, win back then.
But the I think that again that I'm going to
use David Ogan for an example. He was very adamant
about the uh that we needed to start teaching from
green back, and I, you know, now, I firmly believe
that's if you're a beginner, you have a junior player
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that really wants to start, that's where you should start.
And you should come out to Sam Petro or another
part three and start from about you know, twenty yards
and have him chip it onto the green and two
putt and do it for nine holes until they can shoot,
you know, the eighteen or give him a goal, and
then back up to twenty five yards and then back
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up and then back up. You'd be surprised how fast
once they start swinging the club, how fast that score
goes down.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, I think that's that's that's pretty interesting. We always
talk about the short game being where you're gonna save
your shots. We play a bombing gouge style of golf
for the most part in the United States, and as
people the tour and age, they're gonna hit the ball
whatever distance they can. I got a swing, thought it.
We'll get to here in a little bit, but we're
gonna switch gears here for just a second and talk
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about some of San Antonio's finants playing on all of
the tours. Right now. Mac Meisner is in contention a
couple of shots off the lead at Greensboro. Mitchell is
doing his under par at the corn Ferry event in Utah.
Johnny Keefer's won twice on that tour this year and
is destined for the PGA Tour going next year by
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the fact that he's the number one guy on the
corn Ferry Tour.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, I think he's already there. You know, Hismber his
world ranking, I think I know it was seventieth. I
think it's happened on the tour. He's ranked seventy. If
that's how good he's been playing on the Latin American,
Canadian and then now on the corn Ferry. He just okay,
So he played good in college. It's almost great, I
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mean pretty close to great. He hops right out of
college and this just went okay, I need to make
some money. And then he just went crazy and he's
like and he hasn't stopped, and uh, you know, people
have to understand that he is the ultimate competitor when
you watch this young man play. So we're going to
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have three guys from San Antonio on the PGA Tour
next year that are all under the age of at
least five. Yeah, you know, so you know, and Mitch
is going to be the oldest, all right, And then
you have Mac. Mac has to play well to get
his card back. I believe this is important day, the
important tournament for him. But the Mitch's going to get
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his card. He's in the top ten on the money list,
I believe in the points. And then Keefer's already got
his card. Tiger.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Tiger talked about when he was in Stanford and he
was he had obviously a good career at Stanford, but
he said, once I turned pro, where I could dedicate
my whole day to practice and training and that kind
of stuff, that's when I went from really good to
really even better. And he said, it's one thing when
you know a pros routine, it's like us going to work.
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Whatever your job is, you get up a certain time
and you go do it. And their job is to
go train and work out and hit balls and play
nine holes and play more and go on, keep that
routine going. When he was at Stanford, he said, I
would get up at seven thirty and I had to
go to class, and then I had to go to something.
You know, I was a part of a sorority or
a fraternity or whatever, and you have to go do
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something with them, and your day is fractured and you
can't practice and work as much as you want to
because of all the things that are required as being
a student, plus you want to be a student and
live the college's life a little bit. But once he
made the decision to turn pro, it was like I
get up at six o'clock, I go run two miles,
I go to the driving range, I go eat, I
do all these things and it's a routine every day.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, and a shout out to Brian gout right, all
three of them, are you got the right students? You know,
he's done incredible job of keeping them emotional right. You know,
I've always thought that Brian was a great uh with
psychological part of the game also, So all three of them,
we're going to have three Santonio boys out there.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
When you look at players that and I'm sure you've
taught people that are scratch golfers and then they wins
any championships and they think, you know, at an age, okay,
I want to see what I can do to go pro.
I was talking to Brian about this a few weeks
ago when he was telling us about the three we
just talked about. But what in your mind makes somebody
a PGA Tour player or that can play the game professionally,
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even if it's the Corn Ferry Tour, Because I think
there's a big separation between the scratch golfer or the
club champion that's twenty two years old and the guy
that can play golf and make money at it.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
They That's a great question, and I don't think anybody
knows that answer other than the fact that we've had
a lot of college all Americans that turn pro and
don't do anything. And I think a lot of that
has to do with once there's a dollar bill in
front of you or I go back, if you're sponsored
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by an individuals or individual Let's say this individual gives
you whatever the sponsorship may be, and let's give it
a number one hundred grand a year for you to
travel and do all those kind of things. And you
have three years, so he's given you three hundred thousand.
You kind of sit there and go, Wow, this is
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really nice of this person. I need to instead of
I want to. I need to show this person I
can get this money back to them.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And you're relaxed to a little bit because you know
you don't have to worry about paying the hotel bill
with your credit card.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You're right, So I think that helps it out a lot.
But at the same time, players are unless they come
from family money, the players know that they have to
make that money back for that sponsor. Or. They're going
to lose that sponsor a year from now, two years
from now. So it's like puts an added pressure, all right,
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and there's not a whole lot of people can play.
I done that answer is great, camera back and we
would sit there and go, eh, no problem, and he
could go through tour school like it was nothing. Right,
it was zero. I go, how'd you do it? He goes, what,
It's not that big of a deal. And I'm like,
oh my goodness, I wish I had that mind.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Years and years ago, when I was a member at
fair Oaks, we welcomed a new guy to our group
that when he was only there for a year. He
worked for a company. He was on a one year
contract and he was going to he was being promoted
to another city. And the first time I played with him,
he probably shot seventy five, seventy six something like that.
And we went invite him into our group and we
had a relatively tame money game. I mean, we're playing
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for dollars, not one hundreds of dollars, and it didn't
matter whether the bet was twenty five cents or twenty
five dollars or anywhere in between. Once there was money
on the line, he couldn't break ninety. Yeah, and it was,
and it did.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Matt.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
We could be playing for you know, who's going to
buy the beer at the end of the round, and
he would just go in the tank. He could not
he could not get his mindset wrapped around it. And
then there's other players that are just the opposite. If
they're just going out there having a good time, they'll shoot.
They don't even care what the score is now. But
if you put beers or dollars or cokes or Hamburgers
on the line, they're going to shoot a career score
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every time.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Exactly what my cousin. We would go play for one
hundred and fifty dollars one down automatics, it could be
eight thousand dollars on the last hole and he hits
it to a foot right, and then we go and
I'm over there hitting the ball all over the planet.
And then we go play at the Texas State Open.
He qualifies, I qualify. I finished fifth, and he finishes
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missed the cut eighty eighty, you know. And so when
there's a lot of money on the line, I don't
have that answer. So yes, in somebody's gene to pull
the trigger and doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, Lee Travina always talked about the biggest pressure in
the world is can you beat the guy that you
got a hundred bucks on the line, you've got two
bucks in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
That's tough.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Better win, all right? Coming up, we got some tips
to get to. I just thought of another one that
we'll throw out there as well, and we've got more
straight ahead. It's the Golf Show on the Tick.